Deliberations

Amidst confusion, anger, and mounting tension - the Addams jury reaches a verdict.

Former member of the Moonies cult and author of the memoir "To The Moon and Back," Lisa Kohn speaks with us about being raised inside the abusive organization.

Temple leader Tai Biman takes the stand.

Rachel Bernstein, therapist and creator of the show IndoctriNation, talks to us about cults, manipulators, and narcissists.

Lola is examined by state-appointed psychiatrist Robert Kirk and cult psychiatric expert Stella Laughlin. They offer contrasting opinions of Lola’s psychological state.

Cult Mediation Specialist Patrick Ryan revisits us to discuss interventions and alternative strategies for exiting cults.

Lola recounts the days leading up to - and the eventual commission - of Kyle’s murder.

Patrick Hinds of True Crime Obsessed helps me break down the fascinating saga of Jonestown.

Kyle shares his suspicions of the Temple with his wife and close friend. When they report him, Tai Biman writes to Lola personally with what she claims was a veiled directive to commIt murder.

Keith Raniere is the leader of celebrity sex cult NXIVM. In today's episode we examine his background, lies, and methods of interaction to better understanding the makeup of a cult leader.

Kyle flies to Philly, where his family and a cult mediator surprise him with an intervention and detain him for a 72 hour deprogramming. The State questions which group was actually controlling Kyle’s mind.

Lola’s motive begins to crystallize as we learn about the Temple’s belief in “the Tapestry,” the cohesive unit that would be disrupted by a member leaving.... disruption that could result in worldwide disaster. Questions of group exploitation arise as Lola recounts her connection and marriage to Kyle Addams.

Activist Janette Allen discusses her time in Scientology and her organizations FACT (Families Against Cult Teachings) and EndingAbuse.org.

From the stand, Lola describes life inside TCS. Her interview with police is played for the jury.

Sociology professor, cult author, and former cult member Dr Janja Lalich talks about her personal history in the Democratic Workers' Party, its revolution, and the charisma of cult leaders.

Leon Festinger’s theory of cognitive dissonance is examined as a method of indoctrination. If a person’s behavior, thought, or emotion is controlled... the others will follow, opening the door to mind control. Before leaving her first retreat, Lola Addams officially joins the Temple of Contemplative Science.

Michael Bluejay is an accomplished writer who was raised in a cult called Aesthetic Realism. In today's episode, he talks about recruitment, modern-day cultic environments, South Park, and more.

Lola attends her first group-sponsored event, a meditation retreat in Key Largo which Tai Biman hosts. Stella Laughlin explains Kurt Lewin’s three step change model, in which a person’s authentic identity can be broken down and replaced by a cult identity.

Youtube sensation Telltale Atheist shares his personal history raised as a Jehovah's Witness and breaks down the difference between religions and cults.

Lola traces her cult involvement back to her participation in a local meditation circle. Cult expert Stella Laughlin describes trance and hypnosis techniques used by cults during recruitment. For the first time, Lola learns of Temple leader Tai Biman, enjoying his powerful and seductive approach to meditation.

World renowned cult expert Patrick Ryan discusses cultic relationships and his personal history with Transcendental Meditation.

Season four launches with the murder of deprogrammed alleged cult member Kyle Addams. His wife (and murder defendant) Lola shot him in the back because church doctrine convinced her she was saving lives by preventing him from leaving their group. Now claiming to be deprogrammed in jail, an ambiguous (REAL) Florida Statute opens the door for her to walk due to justifiable homicide.  This episode is brought to you by Care/Of, my new favorite company! For 50% off your first month of personalized mail subscription vitamin packs, go to bit.ly/DeliberationsVitamins and enter code Deliberations50

Getting Off host and Criminal Defense Attorney Jessa Nicholson Goetz shares her reactions to the Stowe trial.

The jury reaches a verdict in the trial of Dr Stowe.

Esteemed psychologist Dr. Art Markman (from 2 Guys On Your Head) examines the ethical violations in Dr. Greenson's psychiatric treatment of Marilyn Monroe.

Dr. Stowe assumes the witness stand to speak in his own defense.

Jonathan and I finish discussing Something's Got to Give and the last few weeks of Marilyn's life.

Adelaide celebrates her birthday under sequestration, and the defense lays out its theory. Jurors discuss reasonable doubt.

Bombs Away's Jonathan Young talks to me about Marilyn Monroe's last (unfinished) picture, Something's Got To Give.

The State lays out its theory.

So… today was supposed to be a strict talk with Jessa about psychiatry in the courtroom, but we twisted and turned through odd psychology to family dynamics to awkward attorney moments… … God, I've missed her.

The jury learns about the phenomenon countertransference, wherein a therapist develops feelings for his patient. Were Dr Stowe and Ava Michaels intimate?  *Note. Bill's daughter is also named Chelsea. (No relation!)

President of the ASTC (American Society of Trial Consultants) Patricia Kuehn explains why the consulting industry is imperative in maintaining a fair and just legal system.

Housekeeper, nurse, or spy? The confounding role of Ruth Ivanov unravels.

Today we discuss Dr Ralph Greenson, the inspiration for Dr Stowe, and reasons why I find him suspicious in the death of Marilyn Monroe.  Music: Hard Boiled, Concentration, Spirit of the Girl, Truth In The Stones, Wounded, Cool Vibes, and Comfortable Mystery 2/3/4- Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

The startling therapeutic relationship between Ava and Dr Stowe is revealed, including his intentional role as her “father” and Ava’s introduction into his own family …  *again... based on real events*

Steve Duffy of Trial Behavior Consulting discusses mock juries, shadow juries, and the roles of leaders in jury rooms.

Ava Michaels' three ex husbands testify about her history of suicide attempts.

David Perlut is the Vice President of Vinson & Company, a jury research and trial strategy consulting firm. Today he shares his views on issues within our jury system.

Jurors weigh conflicting medical evidence following the autopsy of Ava Michaels.

Join me in breaking down the theories about Marilyn's death and the way our Jury Break with Luke Yankee impacts them.  Music: Deadly Roulette, Fast Talkin, Dances & Dames - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Jurors explore the critical three hours between discovering Ava’s body and calling authorities.

Luke Yankee, author of Just Outside the Spotlight, shares personal stories from Marilyn Monroe’s life as shared by his mother, Hollywood staple Eileen Heckart. Two points (I never believed before) arose, including one of an event Marilyn scheduled to take place after she died (and allegedly shared by a reliable source) … they've completely shaken my understanding of her death.

Jurors dissect the timeline of Ava's last day alive.  *Note. This timeline aligns exactly with Marilyn Monroe's final day.  Music: Come Play With Me, On The Ground, Crowd Hammer - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Robin of Alltime Conspiracies breaks down the roots of a great conspiracy theory and describes the intriguing circumstances of Marilyn Monroe's death (before explaining some of the theories it's inspired).  Check out Robin's video about MM's death at bit.ly/alltimemarilyn

Hollywood legend Ava Michaels is found naked facedown on her bed, clutching her phone. Pronounced dead of a barbiturate overdose. When her intimately-connected psychiatrist stands trial, a sequestered jury is called upon to determine whether this famously tragic ending was a suicide or murder. (Inspired by true events - the life and confounding death of Marilyn Monroe.)  Music: Lost Time, Dreams Become Real, Lost Frontier, On the Ground - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

In this final installment of Season 2, Jessa and Nick weigh in on plea deals, the role of emotion in deliberations, and unlikable defendants.

Keith Montgomery's fate is decided.  Today's sponsors: Daily Harvest and Simple Contacts.  Go to DAILY dash HARVEST dot com and enter promo code DELIBERATIONS to get three items FREE in your first box! Go to SimpleContacts.com/Deliberations or enter promo code DELIBERATIONS at checkout for $30 off your first order.

Rebecca O'Connor of RAINN (Rape, Abuse, And Incest National Network) speaks about how how to protect yourself and what to know in advance of reporting a crime.

The defense struggles to successfully cross as Riley breaks down. The jury leans toward conviction.

John returns for a frank, contemplative discussion about the sex registry.