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This podcast includes conversational style interviews with musicians who work in the realm of ambient, drone, space and new age music. hosted by Jason M. Miller - ambient musician and radio producer The podcast is produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU

Jason Miller


    • Mar 6, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    Space Capsule - Roy Ayers interview 10-24-14

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2025 27:49


    As a tribute to the late Roy Ayers, this is an interview that me and Matt Myers my co-host on the long running KVLU show Space Capsule conducting back in 2014. RIP Roy AyersHere is a link to the whole show with music included:https://www.mixcloud.com/SpaceCapsule/space-capsule-10-24-14-w-guest-roy-ayers/

    Tones & Drones w/ Michael Manring

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2024 78:58


    My guest on this episode is renowned bassist and composer Michael Manring. For more information about his music visit: https://manthing.com/ Tones & Drones is produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. To stream the station go to kvlu.org

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    Tones & Drones w/ Ambient AF

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 29, 2024 45:36


    On this episode, the duo of Sean Thorton and John Kallen, who go by the name Ambient AF. You can listen to there music here: https://www.youtube.com/@ambientaf Tones & Drones is hosted in produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org

    Tones & Drones w/ Lisa Reagan

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2024 40:48


    My guest on this episode is vocalist Lisa Reagan, we talk about her recent album "What We Need Is Here", which is comprised of classic poems by noted poets that she composed songs to along with producer/orchestrator Jamshied Sharifi, whom she worked with on her previous release "Shunia". You can listen to her talk about that album on a previous episode of Tones & Drones. For more information about Lisa and the album visit: https://lisareagan.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org

    Tones & Drones w/ Ambiente Solstice

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2023 62:44


    My guest on this episode is ambient composer and musician Jj Rey aka Ambiente Solstice. For more about his music visit: https://ambientesol.bandcamp.com/ https://ambientesol.com/ https://www.wayfarerrecords.com/ambiente-solstice.html Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: https://www.lamar.edu/kvlu/index.html

    Tones & Drones w/ John Medeski

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2023 39:26


    This is an interview from the KVLU archives with keyboard player and composer John Medeski. It originally aired on KVLU in 2014. Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: 91.3 FM KVLU

    Tones & Drones w/ Jeff Oster, Howling Loon

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2023 52:48


    Trumpeter Jeff Oster returns to talk about his new Lo-Fi project "Howling Loon". For more information visit: https://howlingloon.com/ https://jeffoster.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of KVLU by Jason M. Miller For more information visit: kvlu.org Music featured in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Joseph Bertolozzi

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2023 69:27


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is composer Joseph Bertolozzi. He has released unique albums in which he plays and samples sounds from the Hudson River Bridge and the Eiffel Tower and uses those samples to contruct musical compostions. For more information about his music visit: https://josephbertolozzi.com/ Tones & Drones is produced and hosted by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Stephen Hill

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2023 36:50


    On this episode of the podcast an archive interview with "Hearts of Space" host and producer Stephen Hill. The interview originally aired on KVLU on November 9th, 2012. excerpts fron the song "Quiet Friend" by Steve Roach from the album: "Hearts of Space Radio Program Series: Starflight 1" were used in this episode for educational purposes only. KVLU has no claim on copyright or publishing rights to the music.

    Tones & Drones w/ AeTopus

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2023 54:34


    My guest on this episode is composer and musician Bryan Hughes aka AeTopus. For more information about his music visit: https://www.aetopus.com/ https://spottedpeccary.com/news/spotted-peccary-welcomes-aetopus-with-multi-album-deal/ AeTopus' album "Cup" is scheduled for release on October 20th, 2023 on the Spotted Peccary label. Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studio of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Carlos Dengler part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2023 73:43


    Composer and musician Carlos Dengler returns to Tones & Drones to talk about his album "Private Earth". For more information visit: https://www.carlosdengler.com/music You can view the video to "Golden Dawn" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrotkcZYK-M Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. You can stream the station at: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Ann Sweeten

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2023 62:22


    My guest on this episode is pianist and composer Ann Sweeten. For more information about her and her music visit: https://annsweeten.com/ Tones & Drones is produced and hosted in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Kenneth Newby

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2023 63:00


    My guest on this episode is Canadian composer and muscian Kenneth Newby. You can listen to his music here: https://kennethnewby.bandcamp.comhttps://www.facebook.com/kenneth.newby https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp6nCU8vlWvGPJJ21QIRzkQ Tones & Drones is produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. Music featured in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Louise Campbell

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2023 67:13


    My guest on this episode is clarinetist, conductor, improviser and cultural meditator Louise Campbell. For more information about her visit: https://louisecampbell.ca/wp/en/home/ You can find her album "Sources" here: https://redshiftmusicsociety.bandcamp.com/album/sources Tones & Drones is produced at 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Billy Denk

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2023 60:10


    My guest on this episode is Chicagoland guitarist Billy Denk. For more information about his music visit: https://www.billydenk.com/music Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Loren Nerell

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2023 70:07


    My guest on this episode is Loren Nerell, an American composer and performer of ambient music and Balinese gamelan and is known for fusing these two musical styles in a unique and captivating way. You can find his music at https://lorennerell.bandcamp.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced at 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this epiosde was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Craig Padilla / Marvin Allen / Daniel Pipitone

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2023 75:10


    My guests on this episode are Craig Padilla and Marvin Allen to talk about their latest album "Weathering The Storm" for more information on the album visit: https://spottedpeccary.com/shop/weathering-the-storm/ Also, returning to the podcast is graphic artist Daniel Piptone who designed the artwork for "Weathering The Storm" and also designs the artwork for all the releases on the Spotted Peccary Music Label. For more information on his work: https://danielpipitonedesign.com/

    Tones & Drones w/ Christina Tourin

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2023 55:01


    My guest on this episode is internationally renowned harp educator, Christina Tourin. For more information on her music visit: https://www.playharp.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced at 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Ted Yoder

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2023 75:25


    My guest on this episode is hammered dulcimer player and composer Ted Yoder. For more information about his music visit: https://tedyoder.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced at 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

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    Tones & Drones w/ Paul Avgerinos

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2023 88:14


    My guest on this episode is ambient / New Age composer Paul Avgerinos. For more information about his music visit: https://roundskymusic.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller at 91.3 FM KVLU. To stream the station visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode is used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Brin Coleman

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2023 75:00


    My guest on this episode is ambient musician Brin Coleman, known for his work as Bing Satellites, The Lovely Moon and several other musical monikers. For more information about his music visit: https://brincoleman.bandcamp.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Vin Downes

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2023 66:13


    My guest on this episode of the podcast is guitarist/composer/music educator Vin Downes. For more information visit: https://vindownes.com/ https://vindownes.bandcamp.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Jack Hertz

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2023 43:13


    My guest on this episode is electronic musician, composer, programmer and synthesist Jack Hertz. For more information visit: https://jackhertz.com/ https://auralfilms.bandcamp.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this epiode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Desensitized

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2023 72:24


    On this episode of Tones & Drones, my guests are Deborah Martin and Dean De Benedictis from Desensitized, we talk about their second album as Desensitized, titled Chaos In Premonition. For more information visit: https://spottedpeccary.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artists.

    Tones & Drones w/ Andreas Vollenweider

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2023 94:09


    My guest on this episode is renowned musician Andeas Vollenweider. We talk about how he discovered the harp, his life in music and his latest album, "Slow Flow & Dancer". For more information visit: https://www.vollenweider.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information on KVLU visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

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    Tones & Drones w/ David Franklin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2023 66:25


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is composer, pianist and guitarist David Franklin. For more information about his music visit: https://www.davidfranklin.com/ Tones & Drones is produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: kvlu.org The music featured in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Howard Givens & Madhavi Devi

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2023 82:58


    Welcome to the new season of Tones & Drones! My guests on this episode are electronic musicians Howard Givens and Madhavi Devi. For more information about their music visit: https://spottedpeccary.com/artists/howard-givens/ https://spottedpeccary.com/artists/madhavi-devi/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller at 91.3 KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artists.

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    Tones & Drones w/ Ed Bazel

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2022 59:07


    My guest on this episode is pianist and composer Ed Bazel. For more information about his music visit: https://www.edbazel.com/ https://edbazel.bandcamp.com/album/homecoming Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM by Jason M. Miller For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Bart Hawkins part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2022 42:03


    My returning guest on this episode is composer and modular synthesist Bart Hawkins. For more information on his music visit: https://barthawkins.bandcamp.com/album/dream-porch https://spottedpeccary.com/artists/bart-hawkins/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Jason Blake

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2022 69:45


    My guest on this episode is ambient guitarist Jason Blake. He performs a progressive style of ambient guitar music, utilizing the Chapman Stick and the 12 string Warr Guitar. For more information about this music visit: https://www.jasonblakemusic.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ R. Carlos Nakai

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2022 73:56


    My guest on this episode is the Native American flute master R. Carlos Nakai. For more information about his music visit: https://rcarlosnakai.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Daniel Pipitone

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2022 69:01


    On this episode of Tones & Drones, my guest is visual designer Daniel Pipitone. We talk about his album art, design, and music video work for the Spotted Peccary Record Label and his background as an artist and designer. For more information and to view his work visit: https://danielpipitonedesign.com/ https://spottedpeccary.com/ Tones & Drones is produced and hosted by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org The music in this episode of Tones & Drones was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Jeff Pearce

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2022 56:45


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is guitarist and composer Jeff Pearce. For more information on his music visit: https://jeffpearcemusic.bandcamp.com/ https://jeffpearcemusic.com/ https://infiniteambient.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. The music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

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    Tones & Drones w/ David Newman

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2022 64:00


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is film composer David Newman. For more information about David Newman's music visit: http://www.davidlouisnewman.com/about To view his filmography visit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Newman_(composer)

    Tones & Drones w/ Nicole Anderson

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2022 105:26


    My guest on this episode is harpist Nicole Anderson. For more information about her music visit: https://www.harpandwellness.com/ Also, check out her Youtube channels here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheHikingHarpist https://www.youtube.com/c/HarpWellness Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist. Cover art for the podcast was designed by Bryan S. Welborn. https://welbornworks.com/

    Tones & Drones w/ Sherry Finzer

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2022 54:00


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is flutist Sherry Finzer. For more information on her music: https://www.sherryfinzer.com https://sherryfinzer.bandcamp.com/music Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Zero Ohms

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2022 109:02


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is Richard Roberts aka Zero Ohms Zero Ohms he plays wind-controlled synthesizers & over 50 various flutes, saxes, & other woodwinds from around the planet. For more information about his music visit: https://zeroohms.bandcamp.com/ https://spottedpeccary.com/artists/zero-ohms/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist. Tones & Drones cover art was created by Bryan Welborn. For more information visit: https://welbornworks.com/

    Tones & Drones w/ David Arkenstone

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2022 78:13


    My guest on this episode is composer and multi-instrumentalist David Arkenstone. For more information about his music visit: https://davidarkenstone.com/ https://davidarkenstone.bandcamp.com/ Tones & Drones is produced and hosted in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. www.kvlu.org Music is this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Elizabeth Naccarato

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2022 59:44


    My guest on this episode is pianist and composer Elizabeth Naccarato. For more information about her music visit: https://www.thebcompany.com/elizabeth-naccarato http://elizabethnaccarato.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Hollan Holmes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2022 88:44


    My guest on this episode of the podcast is Texas electronic musician and composer Hollan Holmes. For more information about his music visit: http://www.hollanholmesmusic.com/ https://spottedpeccary.com/artists/hollan-holmes/ Tones & Drones is produced and hosted in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller For more information visit: kvlu.org Music featured in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Carlos Dengler

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2022 74:54


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is Carlos Dengler. He is multi-instrumentalist and composer and was bassist for the band Interpol until 2010, when he left to pursue other interests, one of those interests was ambient music and the result is the beautiful album called "Aqueduct". For more information about his music visit: https://www.carlosdengler.com/music Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music featured in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ George Winston

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2022 38:12


    On this episode of the podcast, I speak with pianist George Winston about his recently released album "Night". For more information visit: https://georgewinston.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU by Jason M. Miller. For more information: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Tom Eaton

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2022 78:36


    My guest on this episode of the podcast is Tom Eaton. Tom is a recording and mastering engineer a multi-instrumentalist and composer. He has worked on many so great albums and his own music creates transportive soundscapes to spend time in. For more information visit: https://tomeaton1.bandcamp.com/ https://spottedpeccary.com/artists/tom-eaton/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 Fm KVLU by Jason M. Miller kvlu.org Music featured in this episode of the podcast was used with permission from the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Calvin Jones

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2022 96:16


    My guest on this episode is Calvin Jones, he is an American composer and pianist who escaped Ukraine with his wife on the outbreak of war in February of this year. He recently released his arrangement of "Shchedryk (Carol of the Bells)" as a tribute to Ukraine and the relief effort there. We talk about he and his Ukrainian wife Inga's escape from the country and also his background in music and his album of inspiring songs that he plans to tour with in support of Ukraine and also donate the proceeds from the album to Ukrainian refugees and those who stayed behind. For more information visit: https://calvinjones.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information about the station visit: kvlu/org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Will Ackerman

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2022 140:08


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is guitarist, composer, producer and founder of Windham Hill Records, Will Ackerman. Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller at 91.3 FM KVLU. Music featured in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ David Helpling

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2022 69:18


    David Helpling returns to the podcast to talk about his new album, "In". For more information visit: https://ambientelectronic.bandcamp.com/ https://spottedpeccary.com/ Tones & Drones is produced and hosted by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org. Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Michael Stearns

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2022 108:13


    My guest on this episode is Micheal Stearns, he is an ambient music composer and performer, film composer, sound designer and soundtrack producer. For more information visit: http://www.michaelstearns.com/ https://projektrecords.bandcamp.com/album/planetary-unfolding Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Craig Padilla

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2022 90:06


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones is electronic musician and composer Craig Padilla, who is returning to the podcast to talk about his new album "Discovery of Meaning". For more information about the album visit: https://craig-padilla.bandcamp.com/album/discovery-of-meaning Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller at 91.3 FM KVLU. kvlu.org The music featured in this episode of the podcast was used with the permission of the artist.

    Tones & Drones w/ Phillip Wilkerson & Chris Russell

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2022 54:09


    My guest on this episode of Tones & Drones are musicians Phillip Wilkerson & Chris Russell. Our conversation will surround their collaboration album on the Spotted Peccary Label called "Dark Measures", an album they describe as "gray ambient". For more information you can visit: https://wilkerson-russell.bandcamp.com/album/dark-measures https://spottedpeccary.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller in the studios of 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with permission from the artists.

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    Tones & Drones w/ Scott Lawlor & Mike Benoit

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2022 38:09


    For more information about Scott Lawlor's music visit: https://scottlawlor.bandcamp.com/ For more information about Mike Benoit's music visit: https://mikebenoit.bandcamp.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced in the studios of 91.3 KVLU by Jason M. Miller For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode was used with the permission of the artists

    Tones & Drones w/ Donna De Lory

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2022 80:06


    My guest on this episode is singer / songwriter and multi-instrumentalist Donna De Lory. For more information on her music visit: https://www.donnadelory.com/ Tones & Drones is hosted and produced by Jason M. Miller at 91.3 FM KVLU. For more information visit: kvlu.org Music in this episode of the podcast was used with permission from the artist.

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