Podcasts about chicagoland

From building NHL arenas and the National Air & Space Museum to running one of Chicagoland's premier remodeling companies—how does a builder make that transition? This week on the Levelheads Podcast, Chad Mease of Redstart Construction shares the systems, leadership lessons, and hard-earned mistakes that helped him build a business capable of managing 30+ projects at a time. If you're a builder looking to grow, scale, or simply survive this industry, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss. Listen now.

ML Elrick's stil off enjoying the breathtaking views of Lake Como, Italy, and Shawn Windsor out in Chicagoland covering Big Ten Media Days, […]

Hour 2 for 7/28/26 Drew and Brooke pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy (1:00). Then, Chris Vander Woude tells the story of how his father died saving the life of his son (27:06), God's providence (33:17), and opening the cause of his life (35:35). Calls: this is such a beautiful story of fatherhood! (41:41), our youngest of seven has Down syndrome and wasn't supposed to live (43:01). Link: Tom Vander Woude Guild See Chris Speak in Chicagoland

Ever struggled caring for bariatric patients? Join the co-hosts as they share their personal stories and offer practical, dignity-centered perspectives on caring for bariatric patients drawing upon the AMSN Core Curriculum. From navigating respectful care to approaching patient safety challenges, this is one conversation you won't want to miss.    Learn more about the AMSN Core Curriculum at: https://amsn.org/Practice-Resources/Core-Curriculum-for-Medical-Surgical-Nursing 182   MEET OUR CO-HOSTS Kellye' McRae, MSN-Ed, RN is a dedicated Med-Surg Staff Nurse and Unit Based Educator based in South Georgia, with 12 years of invaluable nursing experience. She is passionate about mentoring new nurses, sharing her clinical wisdom to empower the next generation of nurses. Kellye' excels in bedside teaching, blending hands-on training with compassionate patient care to ensure both nurses and patients thrive. Her commitment to education and excellence makes her a cornerstone of her healthcare team.   Marcela Salcedo, RN, BSN is a Floatpool nightshift nurse in the Chicagoland area, specializing in step-down and medical-surgical care. A member of AMSN and the Hektoen Nurses, she combines her passion for nursing with the healing power of the arts and humanities. As a mother of four, Marcela is reigniting her passion for nursing by embracing the chaos of caregiving, fostering personal growth, and building meaningful connections that inspire her work. Hayley Sweetser, MSN, APRN, AGCNS-BC, MEDSURG-BC, CPHQ, WTA-C is a Clinical Nurse Specialist in Newark, Delaware who provides support to patients and caregivers within the Acute Medicine Service Line at ChristianaCare. She is working towards reducing overall patient harm events within the service line through collaboration with bedside nurses, physicians, and other specialties. Hayley has a strong passion for medical-surgical nursing and has spent her whole nursing career in this specialty. She strives to advance medical-surgical nursing practice by encouraging alignment with evidence-based practice.   Eric Torres, ADN, RN, CMSRN is a California native that has always dreamed of seeing the World, and when that didn't work out, he set his sights on nursing.  Eric is beyond excited to be joining the AMSN podcast and having a chance to share his stories and experiences of being a bedside medical-surgical nurse.   Sydney Wall, RN, BSN, CMSRN has been a med surg nurse for 5 years. After graduating from the University of Rhode Island in 2019, Sydney commissioned into the Navy and began her nursing career working on a cardiac/telemetry unit in Bethesda, Maryland.  Currently she is stationed overseas, providing care for service members and their families.  During her free time, she enjoys martial arts and traveling.  Trish West, DNP, MSN, CMSRN, PCCN, CEN, NEA-BC, FAMSN is a passionate nurse leader whose career reflects both expertise and a heartfelt commitment to advancing patient care. Trish's credentials include being a Certified Medical Surgical Registered Nurse, Progressive and Emergency Nursing, Nursing Executive Advanced, and most recently, induction as a Fellow in the Academy of Medical Surgical Nursing. She enjoys spending time with her husband Mark and their five children. Her favorite motto, "Never underestimate the difference you can make," truly captures the spirit with which Trish approaches both professional and personal endeavors.   

One of Chicagoland wrestling's hottest rookies Brian Gorta has quickly made a name for himself on the Midwest independent scene. Windy City Slam Podcast welcomed Gorta to talk about training at the Chicago Wrestling Center under TNA star Mustafa Ali and local stalwarts Koda Hernandez and Alfonso Gonzalez, coming up the ranks with classmates Jonny Black, Kurt Diggity and Pinky Montoya, his debut against Andre Flo, chemistry with Montoya heading into their SSW Entertainment tag match next month, working in places such as Freelance Wrestling, Chicago Style Wrestling, Ego Pro Chicago and Bloodstone Wrestling and not looking too far ahead. Plus, Mike previews WWE SummerSlam and local cards from 2econd Wrestling, POWW Entertainment, DREAMWAVE and Ultimate Combat Gauntlet and recaps highlights from AEW Redemption, Illinois Valley Wrestling Federation, Iron Spirit Pro and Southland Championship Wrestling. Mike Pankow is a 25-year-plus professional journalist and wrestling superfan who covers local Chicagoland wrestling and national promotions like AEW and WWE. If there is something going on in Chicago, Mike knows about it. Enjoy “Wrestling, Chicago-Style” on The Broadcast Basement On-Demand Radio Network! Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com. Get your local wrestling fix every Tuesday everywhere podcasts can be found and always at WindyCitySlam.com!

We look back at USA250 and discuss how we can show up for one another and remain civically engaged in our communities.    Show Notes:  USA 250 page Sifting through Information podcast episode  Combatting the Loneliness Epidemic podcast episode  Your Government page Civic Love event (Monday, September 21)  Civic Love cards (National Public Housing Museum) Making Change in Chicagoland blog post Look Back to the Bicentennial blog post The Record Northshore Evanston RoundTable  The Inheritance by Trisha Sakhlecha The Score by C Thi Nguyen 

AU Sports is Chicagoland's oldest sports memorabilia store. Owner Scott Beatty joins Bob Sirott to take calls from listeners and share feedback on their sports memorabilia. Is it trash or treasure?

DJ Jesse Luscious hypes 2 East Bay Punk bands touring the UK now: Neutrals & ArnoCorps, checks out 2 not-yet-released La Vida Es Un Mus records from Nekra & Rat Cage, serves a double shot of Astoria pop punk The Steinways & The Unlovables, & spins known & unknown Chicagoland classics from Naked Raygun, Ambition Mission, The Effigies, Group Of Individuals, & The Mentally Ill. He plays new tracks from Jah Wobble and Tian Qiyi, Southpaw, Instigators, Mutiny, & Sunswarm as well as classics from The Domestics, Soul Glo, Checkers, Head, Ramones, Slammies, Hellbound Heist, Jello Biafra With The Melvins, Hellbillys, Citizen Fish, The Heads, Stiff Little Fingers, and The Undertones! Neutrals- Personal Computing Arnocorps- Pumping Iron (edit) Domestics- Purchases Mentally Ill- Padded Cell Soul Glo- We Wants Revenge (edit) Checkers- Running With Scissors Head- American Classic Ramones- 53rd And 3rd Steinways- Carrie Goldberg (edit) Unlovables- If You Were Here Ambition Mission- History Defeats Itself Southpaw- Subjects Naked Raygun- Rat Patrol Effigies- Body Bag Group Of Individuals- World Civil War Slammies- Manager Breakdown Slammies- P-U-S Instigators- Full Circle Stiff Little Fingers- Wasted Life (edit) Mutiny- Anthem Citizen Fish- Dividing Lines Jah Wobble And Tian Qiyi- Tomorrow Never Knows Heads- Spliff Riff (Garage Tape) Jello Biafra With The Melvins- Halo Of Flies Undertones- My Perfect Cousin Nekra- All We Get Is Us Rat Cage- Steady On Now Hellbound Heist- Wake The Dead Hellbillys- Blank Generation Sunswarm- Sunswarm

Featured on WGN Radio's Home Sweet Home Chicago on 07/25/26: Center Guard Plumbing's Mike Epping joins the show to talk about how they can help protect your home from the heavy rains plaguing Chicagoland. Go to wgnplumber.com or call 847-406-8883 to learn about what Center Guard can do for you. Use the word “Kevin” or “Cake” for a […]

The Del Mar summer takes center stage with an overview of the meet and specifics on this weekend's Grade 1 Bing Crosby Stakes, all on this week's episode of the Ron Flatter Racing Pod. Del Mar Thoroughbred Club president Josh Rubinstein spends time in an extended conversation talking about the ongoing success of the track against the backdrop of California's struggles to compete without the auxiliary income enjoyed by other racing states. Rubinstein also talks about limits on computer players that Del Mar has added in the past year and the balance of ship-and-win bonuses vs. keeping money at home in California. He also reveals his favorite place at Del Mar other than the track itself. Super Screener creator Mike Shutty handicaps the Bing Crosby, which features trainer Bob Baffert's standout colt Cornucopian. He also offers tips on the Osunitas Stakes turf mile on the Bing Crosby card as well as the Grade 1 Coaching Club American Oaks at Saratoga featuring top-level winners Always a Runner from the Kentucky Oaks and Counting Stars from the Acorn. Co-hosts John Cherwa of the Los Angeles Times and Keith Nelson of Fairmount Park offer their popular host chat including overseas futures odds on the Breeders' Cup Classic. They also the weigh in during listener and reader feedback on last weekend's closing of Hawthorne, the last horse track in Chicagoland. The Ron Flatter Racing Pod via Horse Racing Nation is available via free subscription from Apple, Firefox, iHeart and Spotify as well as HorseRacingNation.com.

WGN-TV weather producer Bill Snyder joins John Landecker to give us an update on the air quality in the Chicagoland area and discuss the cooler temperatures we have seen. Then Bill gives the weekend forecast.

Now that the smoke has largely cleared out, it is the perfect time to get outdoors and into nature. Whether you're planning a quick hike or weekend camping trip, the Illinois Department of Public Health wants you to protect yourself against ticks and mosquitoes. Contributors Al Scorch and PJ Walker help us run through IDPH's guidelines. Plus, we're asking our guests what makes Chicago's live audiences so special, whether amusement and water parks still go-to summer spots, and what reboots would they welcome with open arms? Good News:  The Trashy Summer Market We're doing our annual survey to learn more about our listeners. We'd be grateful if you took the survey at citycast.fm/survey—it's only 7 minutes long. You'll be doing us a big favor. Plus, anyone who takes the survey will be eligible to win a $250 Visa gift card–and City Cast City swag. Want some more City Cast Chicago news? Then make sure to sign up for our daily newsletter.  Follow us @citycastchicago You can also text us or leave a voicemail at: 773 780-0246 Learn more about the sponsors of this July 23 episode: Visit Bloomington Become a member of City Cast Chicago. Interested in advertising with City Cast? Find more info HERE 

Bryan Sebring didn't just grow a business, he rebuilt one from scratch. After running his company in Chicagoland for over two decades, Bryan moved to Franklin, Tennessee and relaunched as a design build only firm serving a completely different market. He shares the controversial 15 day pricing window he uses to qualify leads and close faster, along with a "power of three" approach to budgeting range. Bryan also opens up about the peer group community that changed his business and why he treats every homeowner, even the ones he turns away, as a future advocate. In this episode you will learn: The "dating before marriage" mindset Bryan uses to qualify homeowners before they ever see a price Why he intentionally gets fewer leads now than he did in Illinois, and why that's a good thing The controversial 15 day pricing window some builders call dishonest and Bryan calls incentive How Bryan turns down projects and still creates lifelong advocates out of the homeowners he refers elsewhere The unexpected way switching his accounting system finally made work in progress reporting possible

How do you grow a home services division from $3 million to $15 million, with a goal of $20M this year? In this episode of Can't Stop the Growth, Chad Peterman sits down with Blake Wiltshire, Director of Residential Services at Althoff Home Services in the Chicagoland area, to break down exactly what changed and what it took. Blake started at Althoff in 2004 sweeping floors and making warehouse deliveries. Today he runs the entire residential division. The growth didn't come from throwing money at ads. It came from the blocking and tackling: rebuilding the call center, retraining technicians, and getting relentless about the basics most contractors skip. Whether you're a $3M shop trying to find the next gear or a $15M operator pushing toward $20M, this conversation is a masterclass in growing through fundamentals instead of ad spend. Subscribe to Can't Stop the Growth for more conversations with the leaders elevating the home service industry. Free Coaching for Home Service Pros: https://cantstopthegrowth.com/ Check out Althoff Home Services: https://callalthoff.com/ Connect with Chad: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-m-peterman/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chadmpeterman Learn more about: Chad Peterman - https://chadmpeterman.com/ Peterman Brothers - https://www.petermancareers.com/ The People Forward Network - https://peopleforwardnetwork.com/

Jim Coyle is back in the host chair Wednesday on Indiana Sports Beat Radio! Dylan Sinn of the Journal Gazette joins us with the latest on Indiana and Purdue athletics. NASCAR driver Chase Briscoe stops by to discuss his recent success—including his win at Chicagoland, Sunday evening's third-place finish in the Window World 450 and the upcoming Brickyard 400. Kyle Neddenriep of IndyStar rounds out the guest lineup with the latest on Indiana high school football. Plus, we'll cover Ryan Clark's departure from ESPN and the biggest sports stories of the day. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

He's a fun-loving dude who brings high energy to every show where he wrestles. Midwest-based Preston Ryker joins Windy City Slam for the first time to discuss being trained by Kongo Kong, how Kong brought him in when he was struggling a bit, being influenced by The Boogeyman, Matt Hardy and Kevin Thorn, his experience at SSW Entertainment at HORSEPOWER IV back in March and his match with tag team partner Rae Larson at SSW's “War By The Shore” next month, being well-rounded, working behind the scenes at bigger promotions, merchandising and more. Plus, Mike recaps results and key happenings from Chicago Style Wrestling, Warrior Wrestling, DREAMWAVE and WWE's Saturday Night's Main Event and previews lineups from POWW Entertainment, Southland Championship Wrestling, Illinois Valley Wrestling, Illiana Pro Wrestling and AEW Redemption. Mike Pankow is a 25-year-plus professional journalist and wrestling superfan who covers local Chicagoland wrestling and national promotions like AEW and WWE. If there is something going on in Chicago, Mike knows about it. Enjoy “Wrestling, Chicago-Style” on The Broadcast Basement On-Demand Radio Network! Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com. Get your local wrestling fix every Tuesday everywhere podcasts can be found and always at WindyCitySlam.com!

Dorin Compressor Software What Can I Use It For & Brett Gets A TOOF Episode 529 Dorin CO₂ App Walkthrough + Heatwave Rack Chaos (Advanced Refrigeration Podcast)Brett Wetzel and Kevin Compass open with jokes about Brett's new tooth causing a lisp before diving into brutal Chicagoland heat (95°F+ for two weeks) and how it's hammering CO₂ racks, especially systems without adiabatics. Kevin describes racks struggling at peak hours, capacity gaps where a second compressor is too large, VFDs stuck at minimum, low suction, rising discharge temps, overload trips, and heavy flash gas with bypass valves 50–60% open, with gas cooler outlet temps around 97–98°F (near ambient). They discuss limited quick fixes, defrost scheduling problems, and controller wiring/programming hurdles. Brett then screen-shares a training-style walkthrough of the Dorin app for sizing and troubleshooting, entering typical inputs to estimate compressor selection, discharge temperature, amperage, and using those values diagnostically to spot issues like valve plate blow-by rather than relying on pump-down tests.

Dorin Compressor Software What Can I Use It For & Brett Gets A TOOF Episode 529 VideoDorin CO₂ App Walkthrough + Heatwave Rack Chaos (Advanced Refrigeration Podcast)Brett Wetzel and Kevin Compass open with jokes about Brett's new tooth causing a lisp before diving into brutal Chicagoland heat (95°F+ for two weeks) and how it's hammering CO₂ racks, especially systems without adiabatics. Kevin describes racks struggling at peak hours, capacity gaps where a second compressor is too large, VFDs stuck at minimum, low suction, rising discharge temps, overload trips, and heavy flash gas with bypass valves 50–60% open, with gas cooler outlet temps around 97–98°F (near ambient). They discuss limited quick fixes, defrost scheduling problems, and controller wiring/programming hurdles. Brett then screen-shares a training-style walkthrough of the Dorin app for sizing and troubleshooting, entering typical inputs to estimate compressor selection, discharge temperature, amperage, and using those values diagnostically to spot issues like valve plate blow-by rather than relying on pump-down tests.

Jen and Sarah review ‘The Bear' season five, episode eight, and discuss what worked and what didn't in this very sentimental finale. They also look at the show as a whole and reflect on the journey the characters have been on for the last five years. Shownotes: Review (~1:24) TV & Us Awards (~35:46) Remember to leave a rating and review of this episode. Connect with TV & Us on Instagram, Threads, and Bluesky @tvanduspod or by email at tvanduspod@gmail.com. Check out andusmedia.co for the latest on TV & Us and Movies & Us. And subscribe to TV & Us on YouTube for full video episodes and more. Join the & Us Living Room for early access to ad-free episodes, exclusive bonus content, and more! TV & Us is part of the Movie Archer Podcast Network. Learn more at moviearcher.com. 

Quinn Myers, reporter for Block Club Chicago, joins Bob Sirott to share the latest Chicago neighborhood stories. Quinn has details on: Chicago Daily News Building Is Now Officially A Landmark: The landmark status will allow the building's owner to apply for city incentives for rehabilitation projects. Bronzeville Residents Want Answers After Nat King Cole Mural Removed: […]

The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg are joined by Nick Aufenkamp (Realtor Gone Rogue), a Vancouver, WA-based broker and Substack writer, for a debate on the Zillow v. MRED lawsuit, private/exclusive listings, and whether the MLS should function as a public utility. Nick attended the preliminary injunction hearing in person and shares firsthand takeaways on Compass, MRED, and Zillow's roles in the case, followed by a wide-ranging debate on data access, buyer vs. public rights, Bright MLS's new listing rules, and NAR's recent guidance on exclusive listings. Key Takeaways Nick introduces himself: a broker of ~5 years in Vancouver, WA, founder of the DIY Home Buyer Academy, and writer of the Realtor Gone Rogue Substack, launched in February 2026. Nick recaps the Zillow v. MRED preliminary injunction hearing, which determines whether MRED must keep Zillow's data feed live for 40,000+ Chicagoland listings. Discussion of whether Compass's move to feed out-of-state listings into MRED forced MRED's hand, and whether MRED "got played" in its partnership with Compass. Debate over whether an MLS has an implicit geographic boundary, and who gets to define "objective criteria" for listing access under the 2008 DOJ/NAR settlement. Analysis of Bright MLS's new rule letting agents skip syndication and price/days-on-market tracking without penalty, and how it could reshape Compass's "3-phase marketing" strategy. Core philosophical debate: does the general public have any rights to MLS data, or only buyers — and does treating the MLS as a "public utility" mean it should be regulated as one? Rob and Greg spar over whether hiding listing data (price, days on market) erodes public trust or simply reflects a legitimate marketing strategy. Discussion of fiduciary duty and lawsuits as a check on bad-actor brokerages, versus more mandatory disclosure rules. Closing debate on whether NAR is still genuinely invested in the MLS, and whether its recent guidance on exclusive listings is too little, too late. Links Realtor Gone Rogue   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website  Greg's Website    Watch us on YouTube   Our Sponsors: Cotality  Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board    Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios  

Chicago Wolves' Courtney Mahoney on Adopt-a-Dog Nights, Community Giving, and Women in Hockey OpsHost Julie Marty Pearson welcomes Courtney Mahoney, Chicago Wolves president of operations, to discuss how she rose from a college intern with no hockey background to overseeing multiple departments by saying yes to new responsibilities across game ops, community work, creative, TV, and merchandise. Courtney shares the Wolves' long-running commitment to Chicagoland giving—especially their monthly Adopt-a-Dog game nights with Border Tails Rescue and Right Way Rescue, where fans can meet dogs in the arena and adopt on the spot, contributing to over 1,900 adoptions and strong retention. She also highlights additional animal-focused efforts like pet health fairs offering free vaccines in underprivileged communities and volunteer shelter support. The conversation also covers Courtney's experience as a woman in hockey operations, the importance of growing women's leadership, and practical ways listeners can support nonprofits with time, talent, or treasure.01:12 Courtney Career Journey02:51 Rising Through Roles04:36 Passion Projects and Real Work06:29 Adopt a Dog Nights09:11 Beyond Adoption Giving Back11:47 Personal Pets and Loss13:34 Women Leading in Hockey17:11 Community First Leadership17:28 Women In Sports Careers19:53 Trust Your Gut20:45 Ditch The Shoulds21:59 Giving Back Through Work25:24 Shelter Reality And Support27:27 Game Day Dog Adoptions Support the showSupport the Podcast by Buying Us a Treat via Buy Me a CoffeeShop our Affiliate Partners:

Looking for proven ways to end bullying in your unit? Join the co-hosts as they welcome expert Renee Thompson for a candid, practice-focused conversation on bullying in the nursing workforce. Renee will also be presenting the keynote presentation at the 2026 AMSN Convention in September.     To learn more about the 2026 AMSN Convention OR to register, visit: https://amsn.org/Events/AMSN-Convention   SPECIAL GUEST   Dr. Renee Thompson, DNP, RN, FAONL, FAAN, CSP is CEO & Founder of the Healthy Workforce Institute®. She is a sought-after speaker, bestselling author, consultant, and leading authority on creating healthy workforces by eliminating bullying and incivility. With over 30 years of experience as a clinical nurse, nurse educator, quality manager, and nurse executive, Dr. Thompson spends the majority of her time working with healthcare leaders who want to cultivate a healthy workforce. Renee is the CEO and Founder of the Healthy Workforce Institute and has been repeatedly published, interviewed, and awarded for her work to eradicate disruptive behaviors in healthcare. In 2020, Renee was invited by the Joint Commission to become a member of their Workplace Violence Technical Advisory Panel, has been published in numerous nursing journals, and is a frequent invited guest on radio, podcasts, webinars, and online social media platforms. In 2016, Renee received the Nursing Excellence award as a nurse entrepreneur, honoring her work to eliminate workplace bullying. She received the first Outstanding Nursing Alumni for Excellence in Leadership Award and Distinguished Alumni recognition from her alma mater, and was a finalist in the Healthcare Heroes Awards as a Healthcare Provider. Her blog has won numerous awards as a Top Nursing Blog "must-read" by the online nursing community, and her anti-bullying videos are viewed by healthcare organizations around the world. Renee is one of only 30 nurses in the world who have achieved the prestigious Certified Speaking Professional designation. In 2018, she was recognized as one of LinkedIn's Top Ten Voices in Healthcare for her contribution to their global online healthcare community and in 2022 was identified as one of the top 5 Nurse Influencers on LinkedIn. Also in 2022, Renee was inducted as a Fellow of the American Academy of Nursing for her work to eradicate disruptive behaviors in healthcare and in 2024 received the Safe Spaces award from the Florida Nurses Association. In March 2026, Renee will be inducted as a Fellow of the American Organization for Nursing Leadership for her sustained contributions to the specialty of nursing leadership, commitment to service and influence in shaping health care by addressing disruptive behaviors. Renee has a Master's degree in Nursing Education and a Doctorate of Nursing Practice from the University of Pittsburgh.   MEET OUR CO-HOSTS Kellye' McRae, MSN-Ed, RN is a dedicated Med-Surg Staff Nurse and Unit Based Educator based in South Georgia, with 12 years of invaluable nursing experience. She is passionate about mentoring new nurses, sharing her clinical wisdom to empower the next generation of nurses. Kellye' excels in bedside teaching, blending hands-on training with compassionate patient care to ensure both nurses and patients thrive. Her commitment to education and excellence makes her a cornerstone of her healthcare team.   Marcela Salcedo, RN, BSN is a Floatpool nightshift nurse in the Chicagoland area, specializing in step-down and medical-surgical care. A member of AMSN and the Hektoen Nurses, she combines her passion for nursing with the healing power of the arts and humanities. As a mother of four, Marcela is reigniting her passion for nursing by embracing the chaos of caregiving, fostering personal growth, and building meaningful connections that inspire her work. Hayley Sweetser, MSN, APRN, AGCNS-BC, MEDSURG-BC, CPHQ, WTA-C is a Clinical Nurse Specialist in Newark, Delaware who provides support to patients and caregivers within the Acute Medicine Service Line at ChristianaCare. She is working towards reducing overall patient harm events within the service line through collaboration with bedside nurses, physicians, and other specialties. Hayley has a strong passion for medical-surgical nursing and has spent her whole nursing career in this specialty. She strives to advance medical-surgical nursing practice by encouraging alignment with evidence-based practice.   Eric Torres, ADN, RN, CMSRN is a California native that has always dreamed of seeing the World, and when that didn't work out, he set his sights on nursing.  Eric is beyond excited to be joining the AMSN podcast and having a chance to share his stories and experiences of being a bedside medical-surgical nurse.   Sydney Wall, RN, BSN, CMSRN has been a med surg nurse for 5 years. After graduating from the University of Rhode Island in 2019, Sydney commissioned into the Navy and began her nursing career working on a cardiac/telemetry unit in Bethesda, Maryland.  Currently she is stationed overseas, providing care for service members and their families.  During her free time, she enjoys martial arts and traveling.  Trish West, DNP, MSN, CMSRN, PCCN, CEN, NEA-BC, FAMSN is a passionate nurse leader whose career reflects both expertise and a heartfelt commitment to advancing patient care. Trish's credentials include being a Certified Medical Surgical Registered Nurse, Progressive and Emergency Nursing, Nursing Executive Advanced, and most recently, induction as a Fellow in the Academy of Medical Surgical Nursing. She enjoys spending time with her husband Mark and their five children. Her favorite motto, "Never underestimate the difference you can make," truly captures the spirit with which Trish approaches both professional and personal endeavors.   

He's one of the world's most known creators in the genre of wrestling action figure customization. He's a Croatian 3D artist and designer who services customers all over the world. The Great Tom Veg, with a catalog of over 800 custom 3D wrestler heads, joins Windy City Slam Podcast to tell his story. Veg explains how some life events led to his creative calling, who in the customizing community reached out to him to push him toward this vocation, the artistic talents of his wife, Andrea, not watching pro wrestling until he started making the 3D heads, who some of his favorite wrestlers are, and how watching wrestling helped him bond with his children. Plus, Mike recaps results from New Japan's G1 and previews WWE Saturday Night's Main Event and shares news from POWW Entertainment, AAW Pro, ARWPRO, Southland Championship Wrestling and GLCW, and looks ahead at events by Chicago Style Wrestling, DREAMWAVE Wrestling, Warrior Wrestling and Iron Spirit Pro. Mike Pankow is a 25-year-plus professional journalist and wrestling superfan who covers local Chicagoland wrestling and national promotions like AEW and WWE. If there is something going on in Chicago, Mike knows about it. Enjoy “Wrestling, Chicago-Style” on The Broadcast Basement On-Demand Radio Network! Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com. Get your local wrestling fix every Tuesday everywhere podcasts can be found and always at WindyCitySlam.com!

What if you could build a private practice that actually fights burnout instead of causing it? Today's guests are doing just that, and they're serving adults in the process.I'm thrilled to introduce you to Jane Hohman and Josie Friedman, two speech-language pathologists and co-owners of Comprehensive Communication Partners, PLLC, based in the Chicagoland area.Switching from hospital systems to private practice was the key that unlocked not just better care for their patients, but also better lives for themselves. Jane and Josie now see clients in their homes, in a shared clinic space, and via teletherapy — all while staying energized, engaged, and excited about their work.In this episode, Jane and Josie discuss how they transitioned from burnout to balance, built a partnership that actually works, and created an adult-focused practice that serves clients with neurologic conditions long after the hospital would have discharged them.Josie Friedman earned her Bachelor's degree from Indiana University and her Master's degree from Rush University. She has experience across outpatient, inpatient, and day rehabilitation settings, with special clinical interests in swallowing disorders, aphasia, and cognitive-communication impairments. Josie especially enjoys leading group therapy sessions and support groups for individuals with aphasia, cognitive-communication disorders, and social-communication challenges. Outside of work, she loves exploring Chicago's restaurant scene, traveling, and spending time with family and friends.Jane Hohman earned her Bachelor's degree from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and her Master's degree from Northwestern University. Her experience spans skilled nursing, outpatient, inpatient, and day rehabilitation. Jane has a strong clinical interest in evidence-based interventions for aphasia and cognitive-communication disorders, with particular enthusiasm for supporting higher-level executive functioning skills to help clients return to work or school successfully. In her free time, she enjoys experimenting with new recipes and spending time with family and friends.Together, they are passionate about working with the adult neurogenic population and providing functional, personalized therapy that meets clients where they actually live — whether that means working on cognition in someone's kitchen, running a Parkinson's group in their subleased clinic space, or leading an aphasia support group.In Today's Episode, We Discuss:How to know when it's time to leave a “dream job” that's burning you outThe power of a partnership—and how to divide and conquer based on your strengthsWhy saying “yes” to everything in the beginning (networking, patients, opportunities) pays off big laterJane and Josie are truly living proof that private practice doesn't have to mean pediatrics, and it doesn't have to mean going it alone. Their story does not have to be the exception. If two full-time clinicians can start a business over dinner, work nights and weekends while staying employed, and slowly build a practice that gives them freedom and fulfillment, so can you.Want to build a private practice that lets you serve adults on your own terms just like Jane and Josie did? Learn more about our Start Your Private Practice Program. To learn more, please visit www.StartYourPrivatePractice.com.Or, if you already have an existing private practice and you're ready to take it to the next level we'd love to support you inside the Next Level Private Practitioner. You can learn more at www.nextlevelprivatepractitioner.com.Whether you want to start a private practice or grow your existing private practice, I can help you get the freedom, flexibility, fulfillment, and financial abundance that you deserve. Visit my website www.independentclinician.com to learn more.Resources Mentioned:Follow Jane and Josie onInstagram: instagram.com/compcommpartners/Facebook: facebook.com/compcommpartnersLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/comprehensive-communication-partners-pllc/Check out their website: compcommpartners.comWhere We Can Connect:Follow the Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/private-practice-success-stories/id1374716199Follow Me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/independentclinician/Follow Me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jena.castrocasbon/

How did a young partner go from “no plan, no book” to doubling his business year over year—without ever feeling like a salesperson? In this episode, you'll hear how deliberate preparation, mentors, and genuine relationships can transform a legal career into a true rainmaking engine.   In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Alex Karasik discuss: Family values and early influences on career and character The power of preparation and the Muhammad Ali mindset Learning business development from elite mentors Relationship-based rainmaking and “sales-free” selling Starting early: advice for law students and young lawyers on BD   Key Takeaways: Success in law—whether in the courtroom or in business development—is largely determined by the preparation you do when no one is watching. Treating business development as relationship-building and problem-solving, rather than “selling,” removes the anxiety many lawyers feel around sales. A strong network, built on kindness, favors, and “mitzvahs” with no expectation of return, often becomes the foundation of a durable book of business. Carving out protected time for business development—evenings, early mornings, or weekends—is essential if you want to stop “running someone else's race.” The biggest regret for many successful lawyers is not starting earlier: law school and even college are not too soon to begin building a network and presence.   "If you don't make time for business development, it's not going to happen. It's not something that just happens by chance or by luck." —  Alex Karasik   Check out my new show, Be That Lawyer Coaches Corner, and get the strategies I use with my clients to win more business and love your career again.   Join the Be That Lawyer Community and connect with ambitious lawyers who are serious about growing their book of business, strengthening their brand, and becoming confident, consistent rainmakers.   Ready to go from good to GOAT in your legal marketing game? Don't miss PIMCON—where the brightest minds in professional services gather to share what really works. Lock in your spot now: https://www.pimcon.org/   Thank you to our Sponsor! LEX Reception: https://www.lexreception.com/partners/bethatlawyer Rankings.io: https://rankings.io/ Lawyer.com: https://www.lawyer.com/   Ready to grow your law practice without selling or chasing? Book your free 30-minute strategy session now—let's make this your breakout year: https://fretzin.com/   About Alex Karasik: Alex W. Karasik is a core member of Duane Morris' Class Action Defense Team and multiple artificial intelligence committees, specializing in high-stakes employment law and privacy matters. He represents a diverse clientele—ranging from Fortune 500 multinational organizations to local Chicagoland businesses—across major industries including hospitality, technology, healthcare, and manufacturing. Recognized as an industry thought leader, Mr. Karasik's legal analysis has been featured in Forbes and Law360, and he has been honored as a Super Lawyers “Rising Star” (2024–2026) and in Best Lawyers “Ones to Watch.” Prior to his seven years as an associate at an international law firm, he earned his J.D. from Notre Dame, where he served as President of the Sports, Communication & Entertainment Law Forum. He also holds a Master of Communication Management and a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Southern California, where he spent over five years working with the USC Trojans football team under Coach Pete Carroll.   Connect with Alex Karasik:   Website: https://www.duanemorris.com/attorneys/alexkarasik.html   Connect with Steve Fretzin: LinkedIn: Steve Fretzin Twitter: @stevefretzin Instagram: @fretzinsteve Facebook: Fretzin, Inc. Website: Fretzin.com Email: Steve@Fretzin.com Book: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more! YouTube: Steve Fretzin Call Steve directly at 847-602-6911   Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

This week, The Racing Roundtable features The Racing Experts Founder Dominic Aragon (@DominicAragon), ARCA Menards Series Driver Matt Kemp (@KempRacing5), and motorsports journalist Adam Relkin.(0:05-0:50) Should the Chicago metro area have two races? Does NASCAR need more rivalries?(0:50-4:40) Matt Kemp revisits his Chicagoland race, Dominic Aragon announces Hilary Duff fandom, Matt finally meets Tyler!(4:40-49:00) Introducing Adam Relkin, reviewing Chase Briscoe's win, NASCAR rivalries, Chicago market.(49:00-71:00) Lime Rock preview, Atlanta preview, odds, and moreFor more NASCAR coverage, checkout NASCAR Roundtable: https://roundtable.io/sports/nascar and The Racing Experts: https://theracingexperts.com/.

(00:00:00) Welcome to the Draft with Wilson and Scotty Oss (00:00:28) Fireworks and Cat Troubles (00:01:29) NASCAR's Return to Chicagoland Speedway (00:03:00) The Race and Its Strategy (00:05:25) Toyota's Dominance and Track Position (00:06:16) North Wilkesboro Night Race and World Cup Avoidance (00:07:59) Austin Hill and SFG Incident (00:15:30) Carson Hocevar and Driver Aggression (00:19:17) Chicago Land Ratings and NASCAR's Future (00:27:40) NASCAR's Television Ratings and Growth The return of Chicagoland saw multiple leaders - but Toyota still won out in the end. We discuss whether the move back to an intermediate track worked, the kinda-sorta rivalry with SVG and Austin Hill, the latest NASCAR News - and our Picks for Atlanta.The Rundown:- Chicagoland - another Toyota shootout in the end- Did the Chicago oval work? Good crowd...less than good ratings- SVG - Austin Hill - why do the bad drivers keep beefing with the road course experts?- NASCAR Standings - the battle for the final playoff spots remains intense- NASCAR News:- Steve O'Donnell says everyone wants to broadcast more races. If only more people wanted to watch them - The ESPYs are still apparently a thing- NASCAR holding public memorial for Kyle Busch in October with some interesting details. Let's hope they do it right.- Sponsor News- Atlanta! Our Paint Scheme Preview and Picks.Find the latest episodes at InTheDraftShow.com, follow on Bluesky and Instagram @InTheDraftShow – and like the show on Facebook at facebook.com/InTheDraftShowThanks for listening!

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Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. Today we're joined by Dave Ferguson, co-founder of Exponential, co-founder of Community Christian Church, and author of Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact. For decades, Dave has championed one central conviction: the Church will never fulfill its mission through addition alone. In this conversation, he challenges church leaders to rethink success, embrace multiplication, and cultivate the kind of personal health that sustains lasting kingdom impact. Are you building a church that grows, or a movement that multiplies? Wondering how your leadership today shapes generations of ministry tomorrow? Dave offers a compelling vision for creating influence that extends far beyond your own church. Multiplication changes everything. // Dave believes many church leaders are asking the wrong question. Instead of waking up each day asking, “How can I grow my church?” he challenges leaders to ask, “How can we multiply God's Kingdom?” That subtle shift transforms every leadership decision, from staffing and budgeting to leadership development and church planting. Growth focuses on adding people to one church. Multiplication focuses on reproducing disciples, leaders, churches, and networks that reach beyond one church long after the original leader steps away. The Church needs a new scorecard. // Only a small percentage of churches in the United States are actively reproducing new churches. Through Exponential’s “16% Mission,” the goal is to move enough churches toward multiplication that reproducing churches become the cultural norm rather than the exception. Reaching this tipping point would fundamentally reshape how churches think about mission and influence. Culture beats strategy every time. // Multiplication doesn’t begin with a sermon series or a strategic initiative—it begins with culture. Dave encourages leaders to model multiplication long before they publicly announce it. Whether leading a small group, mentoring an apprentice, or developing future leaders, pastors must demonstrate the behaviors they hope to reproduce. People adopt what leaders consistently practice far more readily than what they merely promote. Health fuels multiplication—not hustle. // While multiplication requires intentional effort, Dave warns against building ministry on relentless hustle. Instead, healthy multiplication grows out of healthy leaders. Churches don’t simply reproduce strategies. They reproduce the character, priorities, and habits of their leaders. If leaders neglect their own well-being, they will unintentionally reproduce that same dysfunction throughout the organization. Watch the four gauges. // At the heart of Dave’s new book, Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact, is a simple daily framework for preventing leadership drift. He encourages leaders to evaluate four areas every day: relational health, physical health, mental health, and spiritual health. By honestly assessing these four “gauges,” leaders can recognize unhealthy patterns before they become major failures. Rather than waking up years later wondering how they drifted so far, leaders make small course corrections every day. Even better, Dave encourages processing these areas with trusted community, since accountability helps combat self-deception. Think beyond your lifetime. // Ultimately, Dave invites leaders to adopt a longer horizon for ministry. Buildings, attendance, and personal accomplishments eventually fade, but investing in people creates lasting kingdom influence. When leaders intentionally multiply healthy disciples and healthy leaders, their ministry continues bearing fruit long after they’re gone. That, Dave believes, is the kind of legacy worth pursuing. To learn more about Dave Ferguson, Exponential, and his new book Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact, visit exponential.org/multiplier or daveferguson.org. Email Dave directly to get bulk copies of his book. Thank You for Tuning In! There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I'm grateful for that. If you enjoyed today's show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they're extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally! Episode Transcript Rich Birch — Hey friends, welcome to the unSeminary podcast. So glad that you have decided to tune in. You’re in for a real treat today. Today is a leader, you know, you have those leaders in your life. You’re like, man, I wish everybody could be exposed to this person and would follow along. And you feel like you’re introducing a friend to friends. That’s what today’s conversation is. And I hope at the same time, it’ll challenge you and encourage you as we think about the future. Rich Birch — Excited to have Dave Ferguson back on the podcast from Exponential. It is a growing community of leaders committed to accelerating multiplication of healthy, reproducing faith communities. They equip multipliers through a variety of resources. You might know their big event, Exponential, but that’s not all they do. They do a lot of other stuff as well.Rich Birch — Dave also was the co-founder of Community Christian in Chicagoland and New Thing. We actually had Ted on recently for a follow-up episode, which is fantastic. So these will this will come out at a similar time. Dave also wrote a book recently that I want you to pick up. It’s called Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact. Dave, welcome to the show.Dave Ferguson — Hey, thanks, Rich. Good to be with you. Rich Birch — Yeah, so glad you’re you’re here. Why don’t you fill in the story for folks that don’t know or maybe aren’t following along. Maybe give us fill out the bio a little bit. Tell us a little bit about your background.Dave Ferguson — Long story short yeah, in my early mid-20s I planted a church in Chicago with a whole bunch of friends. God was very very kind to it; it grew had pretty large, and we had locations across the city and the suburbs. Out of that, then we started planting churches. Our first one was in Denver, then Southern California, and then Detroit, then New York, then Boston. And pretty soon we made a shift that we went from not only reproducing new churches, but helping reproduce networks of new churches. And that turned out to be a bigger deal than and we realized.Dave Ferguson — And we got opportunities then to do that in Europe and then in Africa. And next thing you know, fast forward 15, 20 years, and we were in 69 countries. And this will sound better than it is, but we got to help plant over 35,000 churches. Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s incredible. Dave Ferguson — And at the same time, we also started Exponential. And so all three of those things had seemed to have God’s favor on it, grew. And in the last year, I apprenticed a new lead pastor, Ted Coniaris, that you referenced, who is, I guess, recently on the podcast… Rich Birch — Yes, yes. Dave Ferguson — …and who’s doing a great job at Community.Dave Ferguson — And then then on top of that, we moved New Thing underneath Exponential. So Exponential actually acquired New Thing. And for us, that feels really good. It was pretty, pretty easy transition, but feels really good because we have something we call the 16% mission that we’re going after. And it’s starting to feel actually achievable now. Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s so cool. Dave Ferguson — So I think I think that’s all that’s all the things.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s that’s it. Just that’s it. Yeah, that’s amazing. It’s so good. And, you know, there’s a lot I respect about you and your leadership. But one of the core things I love is you’ve really given your life to multiplication. You’re focused on this idea, helping us think about and then really in the best sort of way, poking and prodding and pushing us to come back to this idea. Rich Birch — I think for many of us, the word multiplication is the kind of thing we can hear it so many times. We can kind of tune it out or it like, what does that actually mean? Aren’t we all committed to multiplication? Isn’t it, isn’t that just what it means? So why does it still matter to the church today? Really lay it on thick here. Why is multiplication such a big deal?Dave Ferguson — Yeah. I mean, two things real quick. I mean, one for every one of your listeners, if they’re involved in ministry, I mean, they want, they they’re trading their life and they want to make the greatest impact they can. And I’m telling you, when you don’t invest in multiplication, you’re short selling yourself. You’re not going to, you’re not going to get to make the kind of impact that God intended for you to, or you possibly could.Dave Ferguson — So, I mean, Let me give you a quick example, so it becomes real tangible.Dave Ferguson — So two weeks ago, I was in Long Beach, California, and I ran into Matt Larson. Matt’s a guy who did a leadership residency with us probably, man, it’s been a long time ago now, 15 years ago. So he basically came, spent a year with us at Community, really sharp leader, but he didn’t really understand how to multiply. And we kind of helped him understand how to do that. Dave Ferguson — So he does that, goes back to Ventura, California, plants Anthem Church, and they’ve planted 15 churches. Rich Birch — Wow. Wow. Dave Ferguson — So think about this and this this. And I don’t know how you keep score, but this is how I keep score with my own, how am I making a difference?Rich Birch — Yes.Dave Ferguson — So like even like if I’m taking a day off in Chicago… Rich Birch — Right. Dave Ferguson — …Matt’s still working in Ventura, California, and he’s planting churches. Rich Birch — Right. Amazing.Dave Ferguson — And I, you know, you’ve heard me probably say like my favorite quote from Bob Buford, my fruit grows in other people’s trees.Dave Ferguson — That’s what multiplication does. Rich Birch — So good.Dave Ferguson — Instead of just having one tree, you get a whole orchard. Dave Ferguson — Or Troy McMahon, who’s one of my best friends.Dave Ferguson — My wife’s getting ready to go to Kansas City to see his wife in just a few hours here.Dave Ferguson — And I mean, again, probably 15 years ago, they took 25 people who moved from Chicago to Kansas City. We blessed them and sent them with some money. They’ve gone to multiple locations.Dave Ferguson — They’ve started four networks there in Kansas City and have probably planted somewhere between 60 and 70 churches.Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s amazing.Dave Ferguson — I mean, again, if I can say it this way, like I count that.Rich Birch — Yes, yes.Dave Ferguson — I’m just telling people. So if you just want to kind of focus on just your thing, you will never, ever make the kind of impact you can if you invest in multiplication of multiplying other leaders.Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — And the other thing, so one, it’s in your best interest because you got this game not to make money. None of us are making any money, right?Rich Birch — Right. Sure. Yes, yes.Dave Ferguson — You got this game because you’re like, this is the best way I can make a difference. And if you’re not doing multiplication, you’re short selling yourself.Dave Ferguson — But let me add one more thing.Rich Birch — Yep.Dave Ferguson — It’s also how the mission gets accomplished. I mean, if you went into Acts 1:8, Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, ends of the earth, and Jesus said, okay, here four more guys.Dave Ferguson — Last time, before I leave, i want to shoot here’s here’s the mission, Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, ends of the earth. The only way that that’s going to happen is if there’s a movement, and movement does not happen unless there’s multiplication.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. Yeah, and there’s, ah you know, one of the things I appreciate about kind of the the you and the broader exponential movement, I think you’ve helped really sharpen this conversation, tighten this up and get clarity for us, which I think is is positive.Rich Birch — And, you know, I bump into a lot of churches that are struggling, a lot of teams that are struggling with getting their their staff to be Ephesians 4 type people, people that are equipping others, that are multiplying others, that they, and there’s an interesting connection between these two, right? Somewhere we thought, oh, you could reach a bunch of people, but not actually equip anyone, which is so strange, right? It’s a strange, and actually there’s only a tiny fraction of churches that are actually multiplying today.Rich Birch — Most are only doing addition. I think this this thinking is one of the ways I think you’ve helped us sharpen this up. Why do you think that math is so stuck and kind of unpack that, help us understand, you know, the kind of the problem we’re trying to attack here.Dave Ferguson — Yeah. I think one of the things you’re referencing, so I casually talked about the 16% mission. Let me back up.Dave Ferguson — We want to see 16%, and I know your audience is bigger than the United States, but in the U.S., that’s where our exponential U.S.’s focus is. We want to see 16% of all churches in the U.S. become reproducing or multiplying churches. And that means that they’ve ever planted a church in the last three years.Dave Ferguson — When we first did the homework on this, it’s only about 4%. Now we’ve moved the needle in the last 10 years to 7%. Rich Birch — Amazing.Dave Ferguson — We think in the next five years, we can get to 10%. In the next 10 years, we can get to 16%. And 16% is kind of that tipping point. Where the of that tipping point, you get the right innovators and early adopters. They will convince the whole that this should be normative.Dave Ferguson — And that’s what we’re trying to do. So with that in mind, you’re right. So we’re still only at 7%. And I think the biggest… we’re stuck we’re stuck in an existing paradigm. We’re like fish swimming in water that um we think the best that we can do is grow a church. And I And I think candidly, here’s how I’d frame it up. I think most leaders wake up every morning asking the question, how can can grow my church?Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — How can I grow my church? And that’s a good question, but it’s not a great question. It’s not an Acts 1:8 question.Rich Birch — Right. Right.Dave Ferguson — It’s not the kind of question going allow you to maximize your impact, you know, where you’re sleeping in on a Saturday you’ve got a guy in Kansas City and you’ve got a guy in Southern California who’s planting churches. Okay.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Dave Ferguson — A better question is how do we multiply God’s kingdom? Rich Birch — So good.Dave Ferguson — And if and if we could get if we could get leaders to wake up every morning asking that question. Okay, and again, I and versus we, because it’s going to take us working together, not just grow, like addition, but actually multiply, multiplication, and not just my church, but actually God’s kingdom.Dave Ferguson — I mean, it’s going to make a huge difference in the kingdom. And I think, so when you get stuck in that kind of addition, like how do I grow my church, it impacts decisions you make about money… Rich Birch — Yep. Dave Ferguson — …because you’re going to go, oh, I need to keep that here. So we can you know add another you know and add another wing to our building versus like, oh, guess what? Maybe if I so if i sent that money to you know this church plant, it’s going to result in 70 churches in Kansas City.Dave Ferguson — I mean, it’s highly leveraged like venture spiritual venture capital is what it is. Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — It implements the decisions we make about staff. You know, we want to hold on to our best staff instead of developing them. And then some of them who actually have the capability of starting other churches and even networks, blessing them and sending them out and going like, yeah, I’m a spiritual father and these are my kids. I’m cheering them on. Dave Ferguson — So I think that’s that’s, we’re kind of stuck in this paradigm and it’s not a biblical one, but it is a paradigm that we’re stuck in.Rich Birch — Yeah. I love that. And, you know, I’ve similarly been with a lot of leadership teams where we’re in the kind of growth conversation. And I’ll come at that from ah kind of the almost the opposite end, but you end in the same place, which you end up saying, like, this box is not big enough to contain the number of people that your church is hoping to reach.Rich Birch — Like we can’t build a box big enough to do that.Rich Birch — I don’t care how much money, I don’t care how good you are at fundraising, you can’t do that. So we have to multiply. If you really think that we are trying to reach and make an impact in our community, if there’s so many churches say, we’re for whatever city we’re in, we’re for Chicago, we’re for whatever.Rich Birch — If you’re really for that, then you have to be by definition for multiplication and for other churches and for seeing, you know, this thing multiplying out. We can’t, we can’t get them all to come here. That’s never going to work. That’s just, it doesn’t work at all.Dave Ferguson — And here’s thing you can, though, do. I mean, you’re right. If it’s just about their butts in your seats, whatever. But if it’s about you bringing them and equipping them and then sending them out, oh, that’s highly leveraged. And that could be a really good use of a building or facility.Rich Birch — Right, right. Yeah, absolutely. That’s good. So, so much of this conversation, you know, I want to tap in your expertise. We’ve got a lot of lot of executive pastors listening in. You know, you have been in the one of the multiple seats you’ve sat in has been the kind of lead pastor seat. And let’s talk to some XPs from your perspective as as a you know a lead pastor around this area.Dave Ferguson — Oh, good. Those are the people actually the stuff done. They’re not just the top. These are the executors.Rich Birch — But let’s let’s think that through. So vision isn’t just about getting up on Sunday and preaching about it. You’ve actually led organizations that have done this stuff. And you know you’ve you’ve cast a compelling vision, but then have seen the organizations actually go out and make this stuff happen. So we think about it from our seat as an executive pastor. What is the executive pastor? Where do we actually come into play in this thing? What’s our piece of the puzzle? How can we help kind of move this thing forward at an operational level? You you named a couple of things, money, staffing. Help us think through that.Dave Ferguson — and And the assumption here is, okay, so the lead pastor is pro-multiplication, and now you have to execute the vision.Rich Birch — Yeah.Dave Ferguson — I I think one of the things, grab a hold of how do we create ah a multiplication culture? Because if you can create a multiplication in culture, you will literally become, people in your church will become unconsciously competent.Dave Ferguson — I’m thinking of a real quick story. A friend of mine named Doug. Doug was a guy who was nominally involved at Community. All right. Long story short, only because his wife insisted he joined a small group that Sue and I were leading. Now I didn’t have an apprentice leader in that small group, which is which is not good, okay? That’s how you don’t create a culture.Dave Ferguson — But we went through six weeks and I went up to Doug and I said, I told him, I said, hey… And actually said in front of the whole group because he’s the kind of guy I could do this to. I said, hey, I know this group would like to continue, but we can’t continue unless we have an apprentice leader.Rich Birch — Nice.Dave Ferguson — And I said, Doug, will you be my apprentice leader?Rich Birch — That’s great. Dave Ferguson — He’s kind of like you. Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — Big guy with a bald head. Beads his sweat or popping on top of his head. He says, all right, I’ll do it, I’ll do it, I’ll do it. Rich Birch — Right. Dave Ferguson — So he he agrees to be my apprentice leader. So I start meeting with him because the group was on Wednesdays. I’d meet with him on Tuesdays at Starbucks around 4 o’clock as he’d finish up work. And we’d kind of…And I remember his first question to me was like, hey, so if I’m going to be an apprentice leader, I should read the Bible, I guess, right?Dave Ferguson — I’m like, yeah, you probably should.Rich Birch — Yes, it’s a good starting point.Dave Ferguson — And so I told him how I how I do it. But over the course of the next 14 months or so, um you know, I basically apprenticed him through what we call the the five steps.Dave Ferguson — And here’s here’s the fun part of this story. OK, so Doug didn’t have much of a church background.Dave Ferguson — So he gets to the place where he thinks he’s ready to lead a group. And I think he’s ready, which people ask me a lot. how do you know when a leader is ready? I think it’s really that it’s that simple when they think they’re ready and you think they’re ready, they’re ready. And so I said, okay, why don’t you take over this group? It’ll be easy for me to go start a new group. You take… And he he said, okay. Dave Ferguson — I come back, like two or three weeks later, to Starbucks on Tuesday at 4 o’clock, sitting at the exact same table where we would always sit was Doug and his brand new apprentice, Tim.Rich Birch — Love it.Dave Ferguson — And so Doug was like unconsciously competent. He was like, oh, I thought I thought every church in America did that. I thought that’s how it works. I didn’t know I had a choice.Rich Birch — Yes, yes.Dave Ferguson — And if you create a culture of multiplication, that’s what will happen over and over and over again.Rich Birch — Yeah, I love that. Well, and and yeah, what a vivid picture. And, you know, we’ve got to move our our people and our systems towards, you know, continuing to multiply at every level. When you think about a church that’s stuck and it maybe is is just focusing on addition. They’re really in that, but they they have a desire to want to multiply.Rich Birch — Is your recommendation, or maybe what you’ve seen happen, the churches that have actually made that pivot towards multiplication, is it like a ground up thing? Like we start with, man, we’ve got to get all of our, you know, all of our team leaders get an apprentice, let’s go there. And then we’ll trickle up through the organization, which then leads to the conclusion. Oh, by the way, we’re going to have to, we’re going to multiply because we’ve kind of built this culture.Rich Birch — Or, is it better to go or or maybe there’s advantages to go one way or the other from the kind of the, hey, we’re going to declare this and that’s going to kind of pull us towards multiplication. Do you understand what I’m saying? Ground up or we cast a vision to pull towards it.Dave Ferguson — Yeah. And creating the culture.Rich Birch — Yeah, yeah. In creating the culture, yeah.Dave Ferguson — If you haven’t, if you, if you don’t currently have that kind of culture, here’s what I would encourage leaders to do. I do think it does start at the top with like the lead pastor and the executive pastor.Dave Ferguson — And I encourage leaders at every level. I said, lead at the smallest level of your organization and lead at the largest level and you train and trust everybody in between.Rich Birch — Oh, that’s good. That’s good.Dave Ferguson — You want, and so for, I mean, all, whatever it was, 30 some years at Community, I always led a small group and I tried to always have an apprentice leader. So you need to do that.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — And if you can get, okay. And I think there was a moment where you declare, Hey, this is who we are. And you need to decide if you want to buy in or not. You’re firm, but kind about that. Rich Birch — Yep.Dave Ferguson — And if you can get all of your staff, plus all the people that you consider as leaders and key influencers, which is probably somewhere around 16 to 20% of your total church. You get them bought into it.Dave Ferguson — Once you get them bought into it, and it’ll probably take you a year and they’re actually doing this stuff. Then you preach a sermon on it. Then you start casting vision on it. Then you declare it for the whole, because what will happen is that, again, kind of back to that innovators and early adopters. When they’re in the lobby and somebody comes them and goes like, hey, what do you think about this idea of apprenticeship? And we’re all going to have apprentices or multiply. They’ll already have been done it. They’ll have done it for a year.Dave Ferguson — And they’ll be like, oh, yeah, I think this is awesome. And that’s exactly what you want.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — Does that make sense? Rich Birch — Yeah, it makes total sense. Yeah. And even what you’re doing.Dave Ferguson — I guess I’m questioning if you’re ready to make that shift, I wouldn’t preach a sermon on it first, because what they’re going to do is if you’re preaching a sermon on it and you’re not doing this stuff, what happens is you implicitly and almost accidentally create a culture that says, oh, I don’t actually have to do this stuff because the guy who’s casting the vision only talks about it and doesn’t actually do it. And so you create that culture, which is what we have a lot of.Rich Birch — Yeah, yeah, I for sure I’ve seen a lot of that in, you know, in the churches I’ve been a part of, even with stuff like ah the fact that you, you know, were leading in a group, you know, I’ve I’ve seen a number, not necessarily the lead pastors I’ve worked for, but in churches where there’s like the lead pastor, they like elevate themselves out of that kind of thing. And they’re like Oh, I don’t need to interact with normal people. And, and that comes out, you know, I’ve, cause I’ve said it all the time to lead pastors. I’m like, even simply like, I would way rather you that just leak out of you that you’re, that you’re apprenticing a leader in a small group.Rich Birch — Then, then we have some big thing on why apprenticing is important because people will catch the the small little things, the little breadcrumbs here and there. They’ll catch that at a more powerful level than the big, let’s put a, let’s get a brand name, stick it on a wall, you know, kind of thing. That’s cool. That’s great.Dave Ferguson — It’ll but end up in your sermons, it’ll end sidebars, hallway conversations. Here’s one of my favorite examples. You know, Nicky Gumbel, right?Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.Dave Ferguson — So Nicky’s the guy who previously was the vicar at Holy Trinity Brompton. He was really the guy who kind of really brought out Alpha… Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — …which you might say is, I mean, right there with Billy Graham and the Apostle Paul… Rich Birch — Yeah, Oh, absolutely. 100%. Dave Ferguson — …greatest evangelistic tools that we’ve ever had.Rich Birch — Yes. 100%.Dave Ferguson — One of the things I love about Nicky is I don’t know how exactly how many years, it’s probably been 40 years. Every semester for 40 years, he always leads an Alpha course.Rich Birch — Yes. Yes.Dave Ferguson — There’s a reason they have such a strong culture and so powerful. Rich Birch — Yes.Dave Ferguson — And that’s a big mistake. I mean, I think as, you know, we’ve planted church and starts to grow. And we’re trying to figure out, what can I do and what shouldn’t I do? And one of the first things that goes, oh well, I just won’t lead a small group anymore. I won’t lead a missional community anymore. Whatever is that smallest organizing principle is, you want to hold on to that. Train and trust everybody else to do everything in between. Rich Birch — That’s very good.Dave Ferguson — And as you continue to grow and scale, yeah, influence way out there. But but Ii’ll hold on to this too.Rich Birch — Yeah, continuing to shout out Nikki, I just think the world of Alpha… Dave Ferguson — I do too. Rich Birch — …and it’s been so effective for our our church. And I had an opportunity to interact with him right in the teeth of COVID. I was doing an interview with him. And he, we were talking about some stuff and i it really marked, it was one of those like you lean forward and you’re like, okay, that’s interesting.Rich Birch — He was talking about how he’s like, you know, for years, the meal is a big deal for for Alpha and like, you know, hospitality is a big deal for that. And he said, I was always critical of people that did Alpha online. He’s like, I was always critical of people doing it over Zoom and was like, I would say you can’t do it over Zoom. You can’t do it over Zoom.Rich Birch — And he said, obviously people did it over Zoom and I wasn’t stopping them, but I was, I poo-pooed it. Well, then well then COVID came. And he said exactly what you said. I’m still leading alpha courses and our Apha groups. And so I’m in an Alpha group. And what do you know? This is amazing. God works through this. Rich Birch — And so I was really struck by that, that he as a leader would have the humility to say, hey, I was wrong, but I’m enough in the weeds of this thing to understand, okay, what are the actual implications for our ministry? I think that’s a huge lesson for us to pull away.Dave Ferguson — Well, I mean, two things…Rich Birch — And yeah, I think it’s 35 million people they put through that. Yeah.Dave Ferguson — My thought is two things. One, is I remember that podcast. So thank you very much. I remember going, listening to him. And and and excuse me. And it shaped a lot of the ways I even thought about COVID from hearing from him on that.Dave Ferguson — But I think I think this the second thing is, I think what you were kind of replying to, you have to be in the weeds… Rich Birch — Yes. Dave Ferguson — …in order to know how the next innovation is going to happen. I mean, if if he wasn’t doing that, he would have kept with his assumption, no, it’s not going to work and maybe made a lot of bad choices.Rich Birch — Right, right. And we would end up in ah yeah and a very tough spot today. In a lot of ways, that that ministry continues to accelerate… Dave Ferguson — Oh, yeah. Rich Birch — …or that movement really continues to accelerate ah you know in these years, which is amazing.Rich Birch — So one of the things let’s talk about, so one of the things I’ve heard you say is that you really build the case that multiplication has to be built on health, not on hustle. And you know there was a previous generation that was really valued like we wanted leaders. We didn’t want leaders that were burnt out, but we wanted them one step back from being burnt out. We wanted them like right there, right at the line. But what, you know, but I know that’s not what you’re advocating for. But it but I think sometimes our teams, our people, our cultures can look at this and say, this feels like one more thing to do.Rich Birch — So what why does this distinction of health, not hustle, how does that factor in when we’re thinking about actually trying to become a multiplying organization when we’re, you know, we’ve got lots of other stuff to carry as we’re thinking about it. Help us understand that.Dave Ferguson — My experience, particularly working with church planters and other leaders, is they aren’t afraid to hustle. Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — And in fact, that’s our default position, that I that I will I can maybe outwork the next person. And they’re willing to do it for it for a good cause. But even though we are willing to that, it actually gives us the wrong result. Because if we only hustle more, if only work more, you’re not going to make the impact you could, like I’ve already described, if you’re multiplying more. So I am constantly encouraging leaders, don’t work more, multiply more. Don’t work more, multiply more. And that’s how you make the biggest impact. Dave Ferguson — The other part of that, which is really important, I kind of have a conviction. We knew that we need to try to do the Jesus mission the Jesus way.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Dave Ferguson — We want to do the Jesus mission, the Jesus way. And I think that has to do with, no, I’m going to try to i’m gonna try to be a great dad. I want to try to be a great husband. I want to try to be a good steward of this body that I have. I want to pay attention to what my thought life, I want to pay attention to my anxiety and and and and levels and and am I feeling depressed? I want to make sure I’m okay spiritually.Dave Ferguson — And I think if we’re doing those kinds of things, we’re checking what I call these four gauges, I think will be healthy leaders.Dave Ferguson — And here’s the axiom that I have kind of led by, especially over the last couple decades, is that you will reproduce who you are and what you do.Rich Birch — Yes. Right.Dave Ferguson — So if if if you want to reproduce unhealth, then be unhealthy. But like if you really want, if you want the, if you want the, the guys in your church to be really good dads. You don’t have to be a perfect dad, but just put in the effort and let them know that you’re also putting in the effort.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — If you want to be a you want people to be you know really good spouses, then try to be that yourself. Because you’re going to reproduce who you are and what you do.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. I really appreciate that you’re you know that you’re pressing on these issues. I think this is a a critical thing you know for us, and particularly as we, you know I’m in a phase of my ministry where looking on to like, okay, how am I handing this stuff off?Rich Birch — What am I doing to try to help the next generation? And man, I would love the next generation to, I think one of the things that particularly Gen Z leaders are attuned to is they seem to be naturally attuned to like, we’re not going to like drive over a cliff for this thing. We want to do this in a healthy manner. Rich Birch — And and you’re not obviously, you know, you’re highly productive. You get a lot done and Exponential is a highly productive organization. You do a lot. But we want to do it—I like that—you were saying, you know, the Jesus mission, in the Jesus way. That’s actually at the heart of your most recent book Multiplier. Rich Birch — You talk, you kind of referenced these four gauges. Can you unpack that a little bit more at a high level? Help us understand what are the four gauges? And what were you hoping with this book? Why, why another book? Why is this one? What are you hoping this accomplishes for churches?Dave Ferguson — I think there’s a lot of great content out there about personal health, emotional health, how to have a rule of life, that kind of stuff. And we and we need to avail ourselves to it. I think there’s also a lot of great stuff and some of it that I’ve helped contribute to around how do you multiply? How do you you know develop leaders? How do you hero making? All that kind of stuff.Dave Ferguson — What I tried to do in this book though is show how those are so interconnected. Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. Dave Ferguson — That if you really want to do this for a long time, and that’s how you make the biggest impact, it’s only going to come if you’re a healthy leader, because again, you reproduce who you are.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Dave Ferguson — And so what we do is we kind of, we, we, we talk about the problem and the problem that all of us face, in the first couple of chapters, is what I call drift.Dave Ferguson — And we drift because…maybe frame it this way. I’ve never had a conversation with a young leader who tells me, hey, 15 years from now, here’s my dream: I hope I’m 50 pounds overweight and divorced and compromising my core convictions.Rich Birch — That’s so true.Dave Ferguson — I’ve never had that conversation. Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — But we read about it almost every week. And I sometimes share the story. I mean, I was in a small group with some of the most influential pastors, maybe in the world, but definitely in Chicago for about eight or nine years. If I tried to reassemble that group today, half the seats would be empty.Dave Ferguson — And I don’t think it’s, and I think it’s because they, they drifted and they unintentionally ended up someplace they never intended to be.Rich Birch — Right. Right.Rich Birch — Dave Ferguson — They didn’t intend to end up, you know, in a hotel room with a woman that wasn’t plan A, when they planted a church. Rich Birch — Right. Dave Ferguson — Or to create a toxic culture, which really benefited them more than other people i don’t think that was like the, the goal from the very beginning. Does that make sense? Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely.Dave Ferguson — And I think what happens is we incrementally, we drift a little bit of time until, you know, in a variety of ways, we end up someplace we never intended to be. So one of the things that I do, I’ll I'll just, maybe I’ll show you here too. I know, this is, this is, I’ll just show you. And I don’t, I know we’re not doing anything on video. I don’t think, but this is, this is kind of, this is my journal.Rich Birch — Yeah.Dave Ferguson — Oh, that’s one from like December. Wow. That’s old. There we go. There we go. That’s actually yesterday. And so like, I just write these four letters, RPMS in my journal almost every day.Dave Ferguson — And R stands for relational. How are things with Sue, the kids, my friends?Dave Ferguson — P stands for physical. How am I doing stewarding this body? For me, it’s a trip the fitness center or out running on the prairie path. Dave Ferguson — How am I doing mentally, which has to do with kind of stress or anxiety or thought life?Dave Ferguson — And then how am I doing spiritually? What’s going on between me and God? Dave Ferguson — And then so I just make a little gauge here and I kind of just, where am I? Where am I? And then I actually go ahead and give myself, I like to keep score. If we got executive pastors, they’ll like this. You should keep score.Rich Birch — Yeah, they like numbers. Stuff that ends up on spreadsheets. It’s good.Dave Ferguson — So you can see, like, so I gave myself a score for each of those on a scale of 1 to 10, then a composite, which was 5, which was actually down from 5.25 the day before. And I think that’s because, as you can kind of hear, I got a little bit of a cold, so I’m not feeling well.Dave Ferguson — And, but I, I try to do this every day. And I encourage leaders, those four gauges, relational, physical, mental, spiritual. If you’ll just spend four minutes every day…Rich Birch — That’s so good.Dave Ferguson — …reflecting on those four areas prayerfully, how am I doing relationally? How am I doing physically? How am I doing mentally? How doing spiritually? You’re going to drift. We all drift, but here’s the thing. You’re not going to go a whole month or a whole year or a decade and and suddenly wake up, you know, and someone’s dragging you into court and you’re going like, how in the world did I end up here?Rich Birch — Yeah, I think this is…Dave Ferguson — And so… Rich Birch — Yeah, I would just want to… Dave Ferguson — …it’s hopefully it’s a very, very practical tool for here’s how you can do this every day. And and let me throw this in Rich too, because I want to make sure I hit this. And then if you can do it in community… Rich Birch — Yes. Dave Ferguson — …that’ll way mitigate how much you lie to yourself.Rich Birch — Yes.Dave Ferguson — t’s like if a small group or a missional community every week, just checking in or once a month with another group that you’re you’re working with, I think that if you do that, it’s not foolproof, but it’ll be a big, big, big help.Rich Birch — Yeah. Yeah. The human, uh, human propensity for self-delusion is incredible, right? Like our ability to like become, to lie to ourselves, let alone other people is amazing. You know, I, I want to just honor you for, I think, you know, I, obviously I saw it Exponential this year where you’ve been rolling it out. I’ve, I’ve, I haven’t read the entire book yet, but I’ve read a bunch of it. And I really appreciate that at this phase in your, journey, you’re raising this flag, I think, and connecting it so, you know, integrally to the multiplier, the multiplication mission. I think that is so critically important because we, you know, we’ve seen those leaders who make a series of foolish, unwise decisions that ultimately end up in a tragic spot.Rich Birch — And oftentimes it’s like, I don’t know what to say to people. How do you avoid that? And I like that you have, you’ve put together a framework here to help us think that. Now, as you’ve rolled the book out to folks…Dave Ferguson — How old you how old are you, Rich?Rich Birch — 52.Dave Ferguson — 52. Rich Birch — Yes. Dave Ferguson — Okay. Like, I’m convinced God’s probably got at least another 20 years… Rich Birch — Sure. Dave Ferguson — …you know, and ah and in some ways it’ll probably be your highest impact years.Rich Birch — Yep. Yep.Dave Ferguson — But if one of these gauges goes way south and takes you out, like there’s 20 of the best years of difference-making that we don’t get from Rich Birch. And it’s not just Rich Birch. Every one of the people listening to the podcast. I mean, I think there’s a whole bunch of people that God goes like, no, I got 75 years or 80 years of difference making. And let’s do the whole run.Rich Birch — Yeah. No, I appreciate that. That’s why I think it’s, it’s I'm not doing a good way I’m not doing a good job articulating. I think it’s a gift that you’ve given to the church because you’re helping us actually attack this problem in a really super practical, good way that that I can see it making a huge difference.Rich Birch — And I would agree with you. I think what I realized after being however many decades in ministry, there’s like a real cumulative effect here that it’s like, you know, each decade, I thought things were great in my thirties and then I hit my forties and now I’m in my fifties.Rich Birch — I’m like, oh my goodness, there’s and and sometimes people will say, they’ll they’ll ask you know kind of questions like, you know hey, how do you basically, you know how do you do what you do or whatever? And a part of I’m like, well, you just stay in it. Like you just keep doing it, right? And stay in the game and stay plugged in and yeah.Dave Ferguson — And the and the longer your influence continues to grow, I mean, like, in the kindest, humble way, if Rich Birch emails somebody, you respond. Rich Birch — Right. Yeah, that’s kind.Dave Ferguson — Because I mean, you’ve put in so much time you mean now that you you’re able to get things done that quicker than you couldn’t before because people know who you are, they’re interested in what you’re doing, right?Rich Birch — Yeah. Yeah, it’s true.Dave Ferguson — And I think that’s true with all of us. Our influence will just continue to grow if we stay faithful to this.Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s great. So I want to, I’m going to, we’re going to talk about where you can get the book in a minute, but just before we get there, of the four, this book’s been out now for a while and it’s out in the world. It’s, you know, as an author, I know that’s a very different experience. You go from writing and then it goes out there and then people react to it.Rich Birch — Are there any of those four gauges that you’ve been surprised by the reaction or you’ve noted the reaction? Like, oh, that’s interesting. I’m hearing from people or I’ve seen, you know, maybe it’s a conversation or that sort of thing that any four of those have kind of bubbled up in in discussion.Dave Ferguson — I think the one, I think that’s what surprised me so far in the conversation is how important the physical gauge, how, how underestimated it is and how important it is.Rich Birch — Oh, interesting. Tell me more.Dave Ferguson — I was just, I was just in a conversation this morning with somebody who’s telling me that he’s really been working on these four gauges and for him in the last year’s dropped 40 pounds. And he’s like, it has, it has really shifted my influence, my, my leadership.Dave Ferguson — He said, I just, I feel more confident walking into a room. And I, yeah, I think probably as Christian leaders, we probably downplay that one the most. And I'm I am surprised.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — I’m not saying it’s the most important of the four… Rich Birch — No. Yeah. Dave Ferguson — …but I am surprised how important it is and the feedback I’m getting on it.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. I can see that. I can see that for sure.Dave Ferguson — Yeah, I mean we’re whole people.Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely. And I, you know, the, the days I ride that Peloton in the morning, I’m better at, I’m a better husband those days. I’m a better, you know, it’s, it just works out, which is, yeah, that’s really cool.Rich Birch — All right. So we want to, so when I, as I’ve been going through this, what I’ve been struck by is, man, I think this could be a real gift for our team’s to go through together. i think this could be a great tool for our staff teams. Maybe if I’m an executive pastor, it’s like, Hey, what if we went through this with our senior leaders first? And then maybe we roll it out to our teams or something like that. Where can people pick up copies of this book? Where do we want to send them online to get them? I’m assuming Amazon. Is there anywhere else we want to send them?Dave Ferguson — You know what? Let me give you two things that comes to mind. One is if they’re ready to make a commitment, say, hey, I want to be a multiplier. If you go exponential.org/multiplier, exponential.org/multiplier, there’s a place there where you can say, hey, I want to be a multiplier.Dave Ferguson — We’ll explain how you can be involved in meetups and cohorts and resource. We actually have a multiplier digital check-in. So you can actually do this online every day, that kind of stuff. So that’s one place that would be, I think, really fun.Dave Ferguson — But you’re right, um a lot of people are using it as a book to go over with their with their staff or with their teams or even their networks. And if they’re going to get, I think it’s like six or seven or more, maybe it’s a dozen, somewhere in that neighborhood, you’re going to get more than few, go ahead and email me and I’ll tell you you get a bulk discount. And that’s dave@exponential.orgRich Birch — Great.Dave Ferguson — dave@exponential.org – Say, hey, I’m going to do this with my team. How can I get a bulk discount? And my assistant, Sarah or me, will get back to you and let you know how you can do that.Rich Birch — Yes, that’s fantastic. Friends, I don’t say this with every author that comes on, but I really, I would highly endorse, would recommend that you do that. I think this could be the book you should pick up maybe this summer, read it by yourself, read it with a small group of people. I do think this could be, I think it’s a critical resource. I think it’s, I think this is more than just like, hey, it’s another book. You know, I think there’s a real potential here for this to shift the conversation in a really positive way in the broader church. So I would love more people to pick it up. Well, Dave, this has been incredible. I really appreciate you being here today. Any final words as we kind of land today’s episode?Dave Ferguson — I would probably come back to, if I was going leave people with one thought, is just just remember that you’re going to reproduce who you are and what you do.Rich Birch — So good. Appreciate you, Dave. Thanks so much. We want to send people to exponential.org. Is there anywhere else online we want them to go if they want to track with you or with the movement or anything like that?Dave Ferguson — I mean um I’m on most of the socials, so you can follow me there. DaveFerguson.org, DaveFerguson.org, if, you know, for some reason you want me to speak or do something or find other books that I’ve written.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s great. Thanks for being here today, sir. Appreciate that.Dave Ferguson — Hey, my pleasure.

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As a brewery whose name acknowledges their wandering ways, Saint Errant has finally laid some roots in a familiar spot in Evanston - and we are excited to sit down with our old friends (and co-owners) Brent Banks and Roger Cuzelis to talk about their new taproom and expanded production. We dip a little into some shared nostalgia - and their reintroduction of some Temperance beers into the market - but we're just happy to discuss all the growing pains and early opening successes that should have any Chicagoland beer drinker excited for what's to come. We also talk about pilot batches, niche brewery-world jobs in high demand, English beers, serving methods, meaningful collaborations, new hop products, the label artist/brewer relationship, and of course, barrel-aged beer in boxes.

Van Vlissingen & Co.'s Gordon Lamphere on Chicago's tale-of-two-cities office market, why energy access is the industry's most under-talked-about asset, and what it actually takes to build a podcast and a practice from scratch.  The Crexi Podcast connects commercial real estate (CRE) professionals with industry insights built for smart decision-making. In each episode, we explore the latest trends, innovations and opportunities shaping commercial real estate, because we believe knowledge should move at the speed of ambition and every conversation should empower professionals to act with greater clarity and confidence. Gordon Lamphere is a fourth-generation real estate professional, licensed Illinois and Wisconsin broker, and Vice President at Van Vlissingen & Co., the Midwest's oldest private commercial real estate firm. He advises owners, tenants, and investors across more than 100 transactions a year throughout greater Chicagoland, and hosts the Real Finds podcast, where he interviews developers, corporate occupiers, economists, and policy leaders shaping the built environment.  In this episode, Gordon joins host Shanti Ryle on how AI has changed the speed and sophistication of deal-making, why Chicago's office market is really a tale of two cities, the industrial and multifamily conversions filling the gap, and why access to power — not politics — may be the biggest driver of the next five years in CRE.  00:00 Welcome to The Crexi Podcast  00:18 Introducing Gordon Lamphere of Van Vlissingen & Co.  01:27 Fourth-generation real estate: growing up around the business  03:00 A detour to law school and Tulane's maritime program  06:00 Why brokerage won out over practicing law  07:00 The grind: 70-hour weeks, no money, no clients  10:30 How AI and digitalization sped up transactions  14:00 Higher client expectations: deal analysis, reporting, and AI  16:00 What lawyers still do that AI can't: real deal advice  19:00 AI isn't God: why brokers still have to seek the truth  22:00 Selecting clients: why he turns down more deals than he takes  25:00 Sniffing out tire kickers before wasting time  27:30 Chicago's office market: a tale of two cities  29:00 Why so much Class B/C office is functionally obsolete  30:30 Industrial and multifamily conversions filling the gap  33:00 Municipalities, zoning, and the housing crisis  35:00 Capital markets: why big deals move slower now  38:00 What makes a deal pencil in 2026  39:30 Sun Belt migration vs. the case for Chicagoland  41:30 Inside the Real Finds podcast: who he talks to and why  42:00 Energy as the most under-talked-about asset in CRE  43:00 Nuclear, hydrogen, and the race for grid access  45:30 Translating macro trends without losing the micro nuance  48:00 The double-edged sword of content creation  52:00 Advice for anyone thinking about starting a platform  55:00 Rapid fire: deploying $50M in real estate today  56:30 The worst advice he's ever gotten  58:00 What keeps him optimistic about Chicagoland.   Like this? Hop on over to our blog to check out the latest CRE hot tips and insights: https://bit.ly/3TAD75S  Subscribe and receive the latest in CRE from Crexi: https://www.youtube.com/c/CREXi?sub_c  Follow Crexi:  Website: https://bit.ly/3TAD75S  Instagram: https://bit.ly/3SxVtDk  Facebook: https://bit.ly/3DppaSH  Twitter: https://bit.ly/3D1Qe91  Linkedin: https://bit.ly/3zcDMCh    About Gordon Lamphere:  Gordon Lamphere is a Vice President and licensed broker at Van Vlissingen & Co., the Midwest's oldest private commercial real estate firm, where he advises owners, tenants, and investors on more than 100 transactions annually across office, industrial, and land assets throughout greater Chicagoland. He holds a JD from Tulane University Law School, where he majored in maritime and logistics law, and is an honors graduate of St. Mary's College of Maryland. Beyond his transactional work, Gordon leads Van Vlissingen & Co.'s media and marketing platform and hosts Real Finds, Chicago's leading commercial real estate podcast, where he interviews developers, corporate occupiers, economists, and policy leaders shaping the future of the built environment.  About Crexi: Crexi is reimagining commercial real estate with an AI-powered platform built to deliver smarter, more efficient solutions at every stage of the deal lifecycle. From real-time data and market insights with Crexi Intelligence, to targeted property marketing and seamless deal management through Crexi PRO, and a transparent, time-bound bidding experience with Crexi Auction — Crexi enables users to evaluate opportunities, maximize exposure, and close with speed and confidence. To date, Crexi has facilitated over $1 trillion in transactions, 8.6 billion square feet leased, and supports a growing community of more For show notes, past guests, and more CRE content, please check out Crexi's blog.Looking to stay ahead in commercial real estate? Visit Crexi to explore properties, analyze markets, and connect with opportunities nationwide. Follow Crexi:https://www.crexi.com/​ https://www.crexi.com/instagram​ https://www.crexi.com/facebook​ https://www.crexi.com/twitter​ https://www.crexi.com/linkedin​ https://www.youtube.com/crexi About Crexi:Crexi is reimagining commercial real estate with an AI-powered platform built to deliver smarter, more efficient solutions at every stage of the deal lifecycle. From real-time data and market insights with Crexi Intelligence, to targeted property marketing and seamless deal management through Crexi PRO, and a transparent, time-bound bidding experience with Crexi Auction— Crexi enables users to evaluate opportunities, maximize exposure, and close with speed and confidence. To date, Crexi has subsidized over $2.74 trillion in property value, 26 billion square feet listed, and supports a growing community of more than 23 million yearly users.

The hosts debate which of the two tracks should be on the NASCAR Cup Series schedule in 2027 and give reactions to the lack of penalties from NASCAR.

After a triumphant return to Chicagoland Speedway, Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back behind the microphone with a new episode of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to recap the weekend in Chicago and break down the biggest storylines from around the NASCAR garage, including: Dale has gone paperless thanks to Jamie McMurray The rain in Chicago was disruptive Zane Smith has been running too well to seek revenge Shane van Gisbergen gets even with Austin Hill Don't mess with the guys buried in the points Chevrolet and Ford continue to close the gap on Toyota Race winner Chase Briscoe joins the show During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners sent in questions about: TNT's feature on Dale's 2001 Fourth of July win What Dale remembers from that race celebration Dale's post-race hot dog-and-beer experience His preferred hot dog toppings Helmet swaps with other drivers The switch from open-face helmets to full-face helmets Dale's conversation with Chase Elliott after the O'Reilly race Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Joe Castello and the Patreon Crew are still celebrating 4th of July Weekend and getting ready for the huge Team USA FIFA World Cup match. The crew recap Chase Briscoe winning NASCAR at Chicagoland; Ferrari and Charles LeClerc win the F1 British Grand Prix; Pato O'Ward wins IndyCar at Mid-Ohio; Matt's Australia Report, and SportsCollision

Busy weekend of local short track racing. COA 300 at Oxford, NWMT at Seekonk, Thunder Road, Lee, and of course NASCAR at Chicagoland. Bob raced at Riverside. Brad DARF'd and Charlie reshingled his fish tank. All brought to you by the North East Short Track Network! Support the show

We've been waiting to get these guests on for a while, but the wait is finally over! Jeb and Ward Burton join the show to talk all things Chicagoland, the outdoors, and more with Tommy Baldwin on Door Bumper Clear. Eric Brennan returns and leads Jeb into a conversation about how his NOAPS season is going and just how competitive the field really is. Then, after Tommy and Ward share some stories from the good old days, they get knee-deep into the action from Chicagoland's Independence Day race weekend. In Spot On, Spot Off, the topics we cover include: Did SVG get payback on Austin Hill like Richard Childress said he did? Does NASCAR need to step in and slow down Toyota? Brad Keselowski's comments on the lack of collaboration outside Toyota camps The restart Chase Elliott wishes he could have back The fans call in with hot takes and the usual incoherent babble for Reaction Theatre, including one caller who passionately screams about hot dogs (?). For Ask DBC, we ask Ward Burton about the memories he shares with Tommy—the good, the bad, and the unseen—while Jeb talks about growing up around wildlife alongside his dad, who is going python hunting! We wrap up the show with S*** Show Hall of Fame, DBC Picks, Weekend Winners, and a sign-off until next time on DBC. Don't forget to grab our merch at shop.dirtymomedia.com! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On this episode of Actions Detrimental, Denny Hamlin looks back on a weekend that had speed, frustration, and a few moments that slipped away late. He talks through how the race got away in the third stage, what changed on restarts, and how track position and timing ended up shaping the final result more than anything else. Denny breaks down the key battles upfront, how pit cycles played out, and why things flipped once the sun went down. He gets into the late-race push where they were close but not quite close enough, and what ultimately made the difference in a tight NASCAR Cup Series finish. He also reacts to the big talking points from the weekend, including the SVG vs Austin Hill incident and the ongoing debate around intentional wrecks, self-policing, and NASCAR penalties. Plus, thoughts on the Chicago race weekend, Chicagoland vs street course discussion, fan experience, and standout performances across the NASCAR Cup Series and O'Reilly Auto Parts Series. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Rajah Caruth joins Corey and Ryan fresh off Chicagoland to talk about his first full O'Reilly Auto Parts Series season — splitting the year between the JR Motorsports No. 88 and the Jordan Anderson Racing No. 32. He gets honest about the grind of the split schedule after three years in trucks, navigating his run-ins with Jesse Love while training alongside him in the Chevy program, and what it'll take to point his way into the playoffs.Then the guys dive into the Cup side: the SVG drama and the unwritten rules of retaliation, a tightening playoff cut line with two champions on the outside, and the case for moving the 4th of July race back to Daytona. They close it out with fan questions and reactions to some of the internet's finest racing clips.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After a quick check on the Nina Totenberg embargo kerfuffle and one more revelation from Justice Thomas's memoir, we devote the episode to Chatrie v. United States, the Court's first major Fourth Amendment decision in years. We trace how the geofence-warrant ruling builds on — and goes beyond — Katz, United States v. Jones, and Carpenter v. United States, and what's left of the third-party doctrine and the mosaic theory. Will explains the positive law model of the Fourth Amendment; Dan tries to claim Justice Gorsuch's separate opinion for his general-law approach. We close with the dissents, the advisory-opinion objection, and whether the Court should be saying more about the Fourth Amendment or less about everything. Along the way: Venmo heroin deals, smart microwaves, whether Will has genuinely forgotten his passcode, and a field-trip assignment for Chicagoland listeners.Highlights[00:00:21] Cold open: three recording sessions in three days, and the theories swirling around the Nina Totenberg screw-up[00:02:04] Justice Alito's embargo story: the press-room idea he liked until he learned they have to let the journalists out of the room[00:03:04] My Grandfather's Son follow-up: Justice Thomas's over-cautious marijuana confession[00:04:35] Cleanup-order watch: GVRs still owed in light of Slaughter, Landor, and B.P.J.[00:04:57] The main event: Chatrie v. United States, the geofence-warrant case — and why a 5-Justice Fourth Amendment majority is a good get for Justice Kagan[00:06:51] What a geofence actually is (there is no fence) and the three-step Google Location History protocol[00:13:52] General warrants, particularity, the University of Chicago backpacks hypo, and Ybarra v. Illinois — with a field-trip assignment to the Aurora Tap House[00:21:09] Three questions — search, reasonableness, exclusion — and the clever cert grant that fenced out the exclusionary rule[00:25:52] The setup: Jones and the two tracks of Fourth Amendment doctrine, step 0 (the third-party doctrine), then Carpenter[00:33:13] Will's positive law model of the Fourth Amendment, and Justice Gorsuch's Carpenter dissent[00:36:29] Orin Kerr's mosaic theory: "building out the mosaic Byzantine style, it starts to become searchier"[00:39:15] Kagan shuts the mosaic door: where the Fourth Amendment applies, it applies regardless of quantity — a fortiori from Carpenter[00:47:36] What survives of the third-party doctrine: Strava, public Venmo feeds, and the "For heroin" hypo[00:50:53] Why it's a big deal: the anti-mosaic holding, and a majority of Justices revealed as Carpenter people[00:54:48] Tangent: Face ID, the Fifth Amendment, Will's forgotten passcodes, and his enemies[00:56:55] Does the Stored Communications Act make all this academic?[00:58:34] The Jackson concurrence's particularity nudge, en banc remand practice, and Levy & Newman on unwritten circuit rules[01:00:43] The Gorsuch concurrence: papers, effects, property — Will disowns it and gives it to Dan's general-law approach[01:08:36] The Alito dissent: the advisory-opinion objection, footnote 4, the Davis carve-out, and the NRA v. Vullo precedent for a do-over remand[01:18:59] Justice Barrett's à-la-carte joins and her one-paragraph dissent — "we should have more dissents like this"[01:22:31] Two kinds of law professors, "The Supreme Court Flunks Trusts," and whether we're good on law[01:24:15] Sign-off: the rare promise of a schedule — a fourth recording session this weekRelevant linksCasesChatrie v. United States — slip opinionYbarra v. IllinoisUnited States v. JonesKatz v. United StatesSmith v. MarylandCarpenter v. United States — slip opinionFlorida v. JardinesDavis v. United StatesNRA v. VulloCommentary & articlesAmy Howe, "Court rules that law enforcement's use of 'geofence warrant' was a 'search'" (SCOTUSblog)Kate Shaw, Will Baude & Steve Vladeck, end-of-term Supreme Court roundtable (N.Y. Times, July 1, 2026) — the "hosannas" Will mentions on airWilliam Baude & James Y. Stern, "The Positive Law Model of the Fourth Amendment," 129 Harv. L. Rev. 1821 (2016)Danielle D'Onfro & Daniel Epps, "The Fourth Amendment and General Law," 132 Yale L.J. 910 (2023)Orin S. Kerr, "The Mosaic Theory of the Fourth Amendment," 111 Mich. L. Rev. 311 (2012)John H. Langbein, "The Supreme Court Flunks Trusts," 1990 Sup. Ct. Rev. 207OtherClarence Thomas, My Grandfather's Son (2007)Jon O. Newman & Marin K. Levy, Written and Unwritten: The Rules, Internal Procedures, and Customs of the United States Courts of Appeals (Cambridge 2024)

The Burnout - ChicagolandRecapping the amazing Racing from Chicagoland.Feuds in NASCARHocevar vs Zane SmithSVG vs Austin HillWhat's new with Cleetus McFarland?IHRA dramaFollow us on XMatt: https://x.com/MattWeaverRARyan: https://x.com/larkin8

Rowdy Dragon is back with Fantasy NASCAR Picks for Chicagoland Speedway! NASCAR returns to the 1.5-mile oval in Joliet, Illinois, and fantasy players have a lot to figure out before setting their lineups. After sitting quiet for years, what will the Chicagoland track surface be like? Will it still have that worn-out, multi-groove intermediate feel, or will the long layoff create a totally different race than what drivers and fans remember? This week, Rowdy Dragon breaks down the top fantasy NASCAR picks for Chicagoland, including the favorites, value plays, sleepers, fades, and lineup strategy for a track that could reward tire management, long-run speed, and drivers who know how to work the lanes. Plus, we look at the latest NASCAR Cup Series momentum, who is heating up after Sonoma, which drivers could be risky fantasy plays, and how to approach your roster for Chicagoland's return. Whether you play Fantasy NASCAR, DFS NASCAR, DraftKings, Fantrax, NASCAR Fantasy Live, or garage-style fantasy racing, Rowdy Dragon has the insight you need before the green flag. Get ready for the return of Chicagoland Speedway with Rowdy Dragon's Fantasy NASCAR Picks, driver analysis, sleepers, busts, and strategy for this weekend's NASCAR Cup Series race.   NASCAR News Provided By: http://tobychristie.com -Listen on Spotify -Listen on Apple Podcasts -Click To Play Fantasy NASCAR With Us!  -Giving Fun Is Here: Patreon.com/thefinallap Rowdy Dragon, Fantasy NASCAR, NASCAR fantasy picks, Fantasy NASCAR picks, Chicagoland Speedway, Chicagoland NASCAR, NASCAR Chicagoland picks, NASCAR fantasy racing, NASCAR DFS, DraftKings NASCAR, Fantrax NASCAR, NASCAR Fantasy Live, NASCAR Cup Series, NASCAR picks, NASCAR sleepers, NASCAR fades, NASCAR value plays, NASCAR lineup strategy, NASCAR race preview, Joliet Illinois, NASCAR intermediate track, NASCAR 1.5 mile track, NASCAR podcast, NASCAR 2026, Cup Series fantasy picks, fantasy racing   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

After taking a week off to enjoy California during NASCAR's West Coast swing, Dale Earnhardt Jr. returns to the Arby's Studio for a new edition of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to catch up on the last couple of weeks and recap the NASCAR weekend in Sonoma: San Diego Street Course felt like a big success A dive bar inspired Dale to hide miniature Jesuses How will the return to Chicagoland go? Dale's Father's Day trading card haul Taking a look at the NASCAR In-Season Tournament brackets Who can make some moves in the points standings? Sonoma race winner Shane Van Gisbergen joins the show During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners sent in questions regarding: Denny Hamlin's costly spin at Sonoma Meeting Travis Kelce in San Diego Going to the I Bar after the race in San Diego TNT's first broadcast of the year Dale's 2005 Chicagoland victory Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sunday's race didn't end the way Denny Hamlin had wanted, but he still left as the points leader, so things are looking up. Splitter damage ruined Denny's day. Travis believes Jared jinxed him. Before talking in-depth about the crash, Denny discusses the prank they pulled on AP. Carson Hocevar was the car that spun out Denny...but is Hurricane Hocevar actually to blame? What would have happened if Ty Gibbs hadn't stayed out for stage points? Christopher Bell had an amazing performance with a broken wrist. SVG got another win, but is it enough to make The Chase? Who could we see challenge for the last couple spots? The Bracket Challenge moves to the next round, and Denny makes his predictions. NASCAR returns to Chicagoland, and Denny was one of the drivers who participated in the tire test, so he details what to expect. Big shoutout to Viking Motorsports for their performance on Saturday. And, how soon till Dodge returns to Cup? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The story will live on even if the show is over. Jim and A.Ron are hanging up their aprons for the last time. Listen in as they discuss the sweet, the bitter, and everything in between of The Bear. Hey there!  Check out https://support.baldmove.com/ to find out how you can gain access to ALL of our premium content, as well as ad-free versions of the podcasts! Join the Club! Join the discussion:  Email | Discord | Reddit | Forums Follow us: Twitch | YouTube | Twitter  |  Instagram  |  Facebook Leave Us A Review on Apple Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The gang is all back from the West Coast swing, though we are still down Freddie while he rests his vocal cords up — and this week we invited Mr. Smile himself, Chris Rice, CEO of Kaulig Racing, to join us! We start off by getting background on Chris, the time he spent working with Tommy Baldwin, and everything that Kaulig Racing currently has going on. After that, they dish about Sonoma and the races that took place there over the weekend, which was AJ Allmendinger's 500th Career Cup start. But before we got into Spot On, Spot Off, we had to ask him about the elephant in the room — the rumor of Dodge going Cup racing in 2027. The topics the Door Bumper Clear crew debated this week included: Will SVG make the 2026 Chase? More Hocevar drama... Connor Zilisch's move to stay out for Stage 2 in the O'Reilly Race NASCAR's newest change with the foam inserts coming out of the Cup cars' bumpers Should Chicagoland be on the 2027 schedule? To close out the show, we had a fan call in blaming Hocevar for his relationship status, we ask Chris about his passionate personality, and we rattle off the winners from around the racing world. Don't forget to check out Door Bumper Clear's merch at shop.dirtymomedia.com! Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.