The "33": Methamphetamine: A Love Story

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The podcasts explores the dark and hidden lives of "33" men and women who were users, dealers or manufacturers of meth. Host and Professor, Dr. David Nelson, Ed.D. and author of the book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story," Dr. Rashi Shukla, Ph.D., discuss t

David Nelson, Ed.D., and Rashi Shukla, Ph.D.


    • Apr 2, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    S4:E10: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Roman: "...meth takes everything..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2025 29:09


    Roman was a man in his 30s who had it all--family, children and a good paying job, but nearly lost it all due to his meth addiction and dealing.Dr. Shukla sat with "Roman" at a local breakfast establishment to discuss his past and his current recovery. In this episode, Dr.Shukla shares her interview she had with Roman.

    S4:E9: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Zach"--"You go where the meth is..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2025 26:38


    Zach was a user, dealer and manufacturer. He was 36 years old on the road to recovery when he met Dr. Shukla with the aspirations to be a history professor but "wasted" a lot of years on using meth and experiencing violence.

    S4:E8: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Endangered Children" Tyler's story.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2025 45:56


    Tyler was an "endangered child"-- a child who lives in a home in which a parent or caretaker is suffering from substance abuse--in this case it is meth. Tyler shares his childhood story on the physical abuse, mental health impact and his relationship with his mother who used meth when raising him and his two brothers.

    S4:E7: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Jessica"--"I hated it..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2024 31:29


    "Jessica" is a 15 year user of meth and a single mother. She is 38-years old when Dr. Shukla interviewed her for her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story," and was only a month into her recovery. She moves from one boyfriend to another, starts dealing meth and eventually finds herself moving towards recovery after entering a "drug research study."

    S4:E6: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. PIO Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics, Mark Woodward

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2024 36:05


    Mark Woodward of the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Substances gives us the latest on the impact the cannabis industry has had on Oklahoma and the nation, and news related to fentanyl, meth and other illicit substances.

    S4:E5: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Max""...it's like it never happened."

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2024 31:10


    Max is 23-years old when he first spoke to Dr. Shukla. He has been involved in drug use at a young age, and later starting dealing and manufacturing. He eventually got on the road to recovery from his meth addiction through a stint in drug court.

    S4:E4: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "In the line of fire." Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 38:18


    This episode is part 2 of an interview with two Oklahoma City firefighters/paramedics. The episode covers mental health, narcan, pediatric suicides and encounters in the field with meth and fentanyl users.

    S4:E3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "In the line of fire."

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2024 38:35


    This episode covers meth, heroin, fentanyl, meth labs and managing mental health from the perspective of two Oklahoma City firefighters/paramedics.

    S4:E2: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Holly"

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2024 32:34


    "Holly" held a college degree and was a mother of four but her life as a meth addict and dealer led her to a life of misery and despair before she found a way out through "drug court."

    E1:S4: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Brianna: "Dope whores"

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2024 27:18


    Dope whores, cartel and recovery are all discussed in this episode. Dr. Shukla discusses Brianna's life as a meth addict and her recovery. Brianna is one of the 33 recovering meth addicts she interviewed for her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story."

    E12:S3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story. "Rewind and Review" of the Last 3 years

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2024 42:31


    In"Rewind & Review," Dr. Shukla dives into a comprehensive look at the most memorable and impactful episodes from the past three years. We will hear from the law enforcement and medical professionals and their views on the impact of meth on our communities and families.

    E11:S3 : The 33: Methamphetamine: Poisoning of Paradise: Interview with Hawaii Federal Agent Rico Witt

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 22:50


    Part 2 of Dr. Shukla's interview with Federal Agent Rico Witt and the drug related issues plaguing Hawaii.

    E11:S3 trailer: The 33: Methamphetamine: Poisining Paradise: Interview with Hawaii Federal Agent Rico Witt

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2024 1:01


    The trailer is a continuation of part 2 of Shukla's interview with Federal Agent Rico Witt and the problems of meth and its effect on Hawaii's population.

    E10:S3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story, "Poisoning of Paradise": Interview with Hawaii Federal Agent Rico Witt

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2024 25:05


    Dr. Shukla visited Hawaii and spoke with Hawaii Federal Agent Rico Witt about the history and the impact of meth on the island.

    E9:S3 "Lost" Angeles: A city in struggle with reality." Part 2 Interview with undercover detective Garcia

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2024 26:40


    Part 2: From gun violence to gangs, LA authorities are over worked and overwhelmed by the the influx of crime that drug use brings to their community. Dr. Shukla shares the details from her interview with Hollenbeck undercover Detective Garcia and delves into the challenges that impede her job as a detective.

    EP8:S3: "Lost" Angeles: A City in Struggle with Reality": "We do the small stuff."

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 29:00


    While visiting Hollenbeck Community Police division in Los Angeles, Dr. Shukla had an opportunity to interview an undercover officer. The conversation covers drug and meth addiction and the impact it has on the community, LA gang and cartel control of distribution, and the lack of legislation by community leaders.

    EP7:S3: "Lost" Angeles: A city in a struggle with reality."

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2023 34:06


    Los Angeles' drug problems, gang violence and homelessness issues are heavily documented and well known. Dr. Shukla spent two days with the Hollenbeck Division of the LA police department and shared her experience driving down Skid Row and being on her first murder scene.

    EP6:S3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Allie, "I even dealt to the Ku Klux Klan."

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2023 32:23


    Allie was a 34-year old female who dealt drugs and a mother of one. She worked three "full-time" jobs and made anywhere from $500 to $1000 a day, but today has nothing to show for it. She was in recovery when she spoke with Dr. Rashi Shukla, author of the book, The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story." Credits: BenSound

    EP5:S3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Sam, "I trashed everything."

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2023 28:29


    "Sam" is a 44-year old male who started dealing drugs in high school to graduating in dealing meth later in life. "Sam" lost everything to meth but now is on the road to recovery. Dr. Shukla shares her interview she had with "Sam" in this episode of "The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story."

    EP4:S3 The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Guest, Dr. John Duncan, PhD.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2023 65:14


    Our guest, Dr. John Duncan, is the inspiration for Dr. Shukla's book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story. In this episode he discusses meth on the brain, the long term effects of meth and the struggles of passing legislation in Oklahoma to limit meth labs and access to pseudoephedrine.

    EP3:S3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: "Poisoning of Paradise": Hawaii ER Physician, Dr. Mark Baker, Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2023 20:43


    We continue our conversation with Dr. Mark Baker, a Hawaii ER physician, about the health issues he sees with meth use in the ER and his fight to end meth in Hawaii.

    EP2:S3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: "Poisoning of Paradise": Hawaii ER Physician, Dr. Mark Baker, Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2023 32:25


    Hawaii has a major meth problem. The U.S. Congress representatives described it as "The Poisoning of Paradise" in a 2010 report on the meth issue in Hawaii. Our guest, Dr. Mark Baker, a practicing ER Physician at Poli Momi Medical Center in Hawaii, sees the results of meth on a daily basis. This podcast is part 1 of a two part interview with Dr. Baker as he shares his experiences, opinion and his campaign in ridding Hawaii of meth. Visit is his website at: end meth.org

    EP1:S3: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Dillon

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2023 40:35


    "Dillon" first experiences drugs at 13 with a "dancer," and later moves to using meth by the time he entered his 20s. He later learns how to cook meth while in jail and becomes an everyday cook and dealer when he goes back out to the world. In this episode, Dr. Rashi Shukla shares with us her interview with the then 37-year old "Dillon" over his abuse of meth and his road to recovery.

    EP12:S2: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Vince "trucker #3."

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2023 31:46


    "Vince"--trucker #3 had a 30-year long love affair with meth as a dealer, user and cook. He's a "nice guy"-- a "farmer-type"-- who got caught up in the world of meth addiction. He eventually turned his life around and moved down a path of recovery after 30-years of meth use. Dr. Shukla shares her interview she had with "Vince" and his patterns of use and dealing meth.

    Ep11:S2: The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story: Trucker #2: Patrick, "East Bound and Down..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2023 33:39


    Dr. Shukla shares "Patrick" story in this episode. From cooking and trafficking meth in his 18-wheeler, to getting all his kids addicted to meth, Patrick, a 55-year old male, lived 30 years in this lifestyle before he and all his kids got on the road to recovery.

    EP10:S2: The 33: Fentanyl and Drug Court: A discussion with Special Guest: Hon. Judge Ken Stoner

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2023 33:00


    Host, Dr. David Nelson and Author, Dr. Rashi Shukla discuss the success of Drug Courts in Oklahoma County and the fentanyl crisis with Honorable Judge Ken Stoner.

    E9:S2: "East Bound and Down: Bryant keeps on "trucking."

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2023 27:49


    In Episode 9, Dr. Shukla delves into the life of Bryant, a trucker, who is introduced to meth at 14 and later learns how to cook it in prison. Bryant is one of three truckers Dr. Shukla interviewed for her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story."

    EP8:S2: An Interview with Dr. Chris Hill, Sociology Professor

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2022 50:14


    Dr. Shukla and Dr. Nelson interview Dr. Chris Hill, Sociology Professor, about the sociological component and theory related to substance abuse.

    E7:S2: Part 2 of Jami and Judson: A Mother's Grief

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2022 37:16


    Part 2 of Jami's story about her son, Judson, and his death due to a meth addiction. Dr. Shukla expands on the lack of legislative help and her personal difficulties she faced in writing her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story" and its impact on her life. Jami wants to give back and help others heal through grief yoga and recovery circles. She is in the process of creating a Grief Relief Yoga series to help reduce the suffering of people going through tough times, whether it be substance use disorder, grief, trauma, depression, etc. For more information, or to share your story with Jami, she can be reached a jamisfitforlife.com Warning: There is talk associated with substance abuse, suicide and suicide methods.

    Ep6:S2: Part 1: Jami and Judson: A Mother's Grief.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2022 35:10


    This is part one of a special two-part interview with Jami, a grieving California mother who lost her son, Judson, to a meth addiction. Jami shares her story about her beloved son's early life successes to his slow spiral to a world of addiction. Warning: The episode discusses suicide, a suicide method and substance abuse.

    Ep5:S2: Nicholas," I felt like a king."

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2022 28:50


    Dr. Shukla and Dr. Nelson discuss the latest news stories of a 3-year old who was "caged" by his meth addicted parents and the growth of meth around the nation and world. In addition, they will also discuss one of the "33" Dr. Shukla interviewed for her book, Methamphetamine: A Love Story." This episode focuses on Nicolas, a 27-year old recovering from his addiction to meth who "felt like a rock star" during his time using and cooking meth.

    E4:S2: The 33: Vanessa,"... I wanted to do it until I died."

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2022 29:52


    Dr. Shukla discusses the life of Vanessa, a recovering meth addict whose childhood was filled with great uncertainty, poverty and malnutrition, but lived to tell her story.

    EP3:S2: The 33: Mia," It's like losing your soul..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2022 28:01


    Dr. Shukla and I discuss "Zoom Meth Parties," the largest meth bust in San Diego, and the life of Mia. Mia is one of the 33 recovering meth addicts Shukla interviewed for her book," Methamphetamine: A Love Story." Mia was heavily involved in "financing" manufacturing of meth and selling it. She was 39-years old at the time of her interview and a mother to two children.

    EP2:S2: The 33: Jackson: "7 to Life"

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2022 25:51


    This episode covers the most recent busts that include the use of a fast food drive-thru and baby seats to distribute meth. Dr. Shukla also adds the latest innovative programs being developed in selected US states to deal with the drug problem in their communities. "Jackson" is the main person of discussion as Dr. Shukla carries us through his 20-year long addiction to meth and the difficulty of transitioning into a "normal" life.

    EP1:S2: The 33: Ava," Meth is Evil..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2022 36:37


    Dr. Rashi Shukla discusses her interview with Ava, a 30-year old recovering meth addict and one of the rare female meth cooks in her study.

    EP11:S1 Meth/Fentanyl Busts, "Contaminated" houses, and "Steven"

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2022 27:31


    In this episode, Dr. Rashi Shukla, author of the book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story" and host, Dr. David Nelson discuss the latest seizures of major meth and fentanyl busts in Oklahoma and the rarely spoken phenomenon of "contaminated houses" that are cleaned of meth and sold back on the market. The podcast also includes a look at "Steven," one of the 33 recovering addicts Dr. Shukla interviewed for her research regarding the meth issue in Oklahoma.

    EP10:S1 The 33: Emme, "Happy people don't do drugs..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2022 31:27


    Episode 10 looks into the life of Emme, a 25-year old mom with two kids and a recovering meth addict in Oklahoma. Emme is one of the "33" users, cooks and distributors that Dr. Rashi Shukla interviewed for her book, Methamphetamine: A Love Story."

    EP9:S1 The 33: Guest: Mark Woodward, Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2022 33:21


    Dr. Rashi Shukla and I have a conversation with Mark Woodward, PIO of the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. Topics include the status of the meth issue in Oklahoma, different methods of distribution and manufacturing of meth, and the international component related to meth usage.

    EP8:S1 The 33: "Daphne: I was hooked..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 31:37


    Dr. Rashi Shukla discusses 47-year old Daphne, one of the 33 recovering meth users, cooks and/or dealers she interviewed for her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story."

    EP7:S1 The 33: Felix," Fast Money Goes Fast..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2022 34:43


    Dr. Rashi Shukla discusses Felix, one of the 33 she interviewed for her book, " Methamphetamine: A Love Story." Felix was a meth user, cook and dealer. He is now in college and aspires to be an educator.

    EP6:S1 The 33: Addiction, Children and Families

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2021 38:32


    Dr. David Nelson, Ed.D., and Dr. Rashi Shukla, Ph.D., discuss addiction within families and the roles children play in the family dynamics where addiction is present. Guest is Sociology and Substance Abuse Professor and Physician, Dr. Keith Killian, M.D.

    EP5:S1 The 33: Recovering and Managing the Holidays

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2021 28:27


    Drs. Rashi Shukla, Ph.D., Travis Jones, Ph.D., and host, David Nelson, Ed.D., discuss the difficulty of navigating the holidays for recovering addicts and provide some advice.

    EP4:S1 The 33: Wes: "There is no rational thought."

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2021 32:21


    In Episode 4 of The 33: Methamphetamine, A Love Story," Author and Professor, Dr. Rashi Shukla, Ph.D., and Host, Dr. David Nelson, Ed.D., discuss the life of "Wes," a former meth addict, dealer and cook from Oklahoma. "Wes" is one of the "33" Dr. Shukla interviewed for her book,"Methamphetamine: A Love Story."

    EP3:S1 The 33: Katie," It was hell..."

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2021 30:58


    "Katie" is one of the "33" Dr. Rashi Shukla interviewed for her book," Methamphetamine: A Love Story." This is a podcast discussion with Dr. Shukla about "Katie's" addiction to meth, life as a "cook" and abusive childhood. Also, related discussion will briefly address the meth issues relevant to Oklahoma.

    EP2:S1 The "33": Evan, "It's all an illusion."

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2021 31:39


    Episode 2: Dr. Rashi Shukla, Ph.D., talks about her interview with one of the "33" former meth addicts, dealers and "cooks" she met for her book, "Methamphetamine: A Love Story." In addition to the discussion of "Evan," Dr. Shukla and host David Nelson, Ed.D., highlight recent meth lab busts in Oklahoma.

    EP1:S1 The 33: Methamphetamine: A Love Story

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2021 29:41


    Welcome, to Episode 1 of the podcast: The “33.” In this episode we will discuss the background and interest that led to the research for Dr. Shukla's book, “Methamphetamine: A Love Story,” and introduce you to some of the individuals who we will be highlighting over the next several episodes. Dr. Rashi Shukla, Professor of Criminal Justice at the University of Central Oklahoma and Author of the book of discussion, “Methamphetamine: A Love Story—published by the University of California Press. Host: Dr. David Nelson, Professor of Mass Communication, University of Central Oklahoma. This podcast will take a deep look into this dark world she uncovered in her interviews related to addiction, dealing and manufacturing of meth in Oklahoma.

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