Token: Blacks In Cinema

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Two black filmmakers review the token characters in film and television. An exploration of race in film, Donna Hull and Steven DeBose discuss role reversals, the relevancy of the token’s race, and pitching “what if” scenarios in this funny, often blunt and always thought provoking podcast.

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    • Sep 1, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 46m AVG DURATION
    • 19 EPISODES


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    Latest episodes from Token: Blacks In Cinema

    Gentrification in Horror: CANDYMAN

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2022 35:22


    Sleek galleries, modern houses, and…the projects. Blaming the marginalized for their own gentrification is a tale as old as time. Fortunately, in Candyman, there are things just as old that come around to course correct. This one is interesting because the antagonist is a villain to most but an antihero to some. See, when your blackness isn't enough for those that consume your art, you may end up digging deeper into your history and coming up with some sh*t they ain't gonna like…at ALL.  on the surface, there's candy and honey and bees and such, but underneath, ya boy is a reminder of how black men have been killed repeatedly by the system of white supremacy. We figured the realest version of this movie def wouldn't get any distribution, but we'll settle for the amazing one they created here.  But we still ain't saying his name 5 times!

    The French Dispatch: Roebuck Wright

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2022 33:29


    We're baaack! Been a hot minute (not too hot) but we're looking at the New Yorker-inspired, star-packed anthology that is The French Dispatch. When your film diet lately has been comprised of gorging on the "McDonalds" movies, you may forget what nutrient-rich films provide and blame yourself when the next meal don't taste right. And then eating just feels like a chore.  At least we got a Baldwin inspired figure who waxes poetic on the loneliness of being an outsider. There is NUANCE even if it is full of ironies. When the diversity presented is also the most poignant and touching piece of the entire movie, it makes for that much more of a bitter meal. But yo, when is the Atlanta cast gunna be in a Wes Anderson film? Somebody better read the paper, boy.

    Don't Look UP!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2022 35:27


    There's Christian skater punks, AILFs (astronomer I'd like to...), and crazy-eyed phd candidates, and then there's...us. We got ol Rob Morgan here to give us Don Cheadle vibes.  And Cudi is here to represent for all the f*ckboi DJs. There a few black characters but they just don't go into depth. They are here to pass the ball but not take any shots! Look, when there is an N.E.O. coming with a direct hit in 6 mos we just wanna be in the room with some agency. Don't nobody wanna die paying for break room snacks. At least Oglethorp is given permission to be the blackest scientist since Sam J in Jurassic Park. 

    Sue Ann: MA

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2021 48:52


    Trigger warning! Social outcasts be wary. There's only room for one of us in this movie. She may be a MA but she got auntie in vegas vibez. And you don't piss off Auntie in vegas. You'll be lucky if you ONLY have your face painted white. What happens when the high school outcast gets a chance to be one of the cool kids, albeit 30 years later? She might be serving snacks but she also likes her men young. And she might kill yo kids. You better get on the first ship out of here, but you know us and ships! It's basically a PSA for therapy. Also, who brought Earth Wind & Fire into this?

    Morpheus: THE MATRIX

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2021 43:27


    A magical negro that's more than just magic? Is that possible?  Lawrence Fishburne is a legend, and his role in the Matrix will forever be iconic. He has his own mission. Morpheus is the name given to the god of dreams, and in the Matrix and he is making sure everyone is woke so they can fight the power that is their ultimate system of oppression. He's their world's Deray Mckesson! He has a very active role throughout the entire film. He's a badass that knows his destiny is to save the world by finding this ultimate weapon, and anyone getting in the way will have to face him down. An undeniable presence. But nobody can be told who Morpheus is, you have to see him for yourself.

    Danny Rich: Anaconda

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2021 35:15


    Ice Cube is about that action boss! He's got his boot knife; he has a game plan. He isn't letting a damn snake take him out like that, and you love to see it. A fish out of water against a snake in the water. Anaconda is a classic amongst the modern B movie horror films. While other actors played very specific characters, this one was like they took Boyz in the Hood Cube and dropped him in the middle of the rainforest. You getting ALL the black. Cube has some great quotables in here, you just might have to listen a little closer. He sounds just like himself in every movie, and we're here for it. It's just Ice Cube energy all around. You may leave the film asking the same question as cube's character “Its snakes dis big??

    WINSTON: Ghostbusters

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2021 39:33


    In terms of pure entertainment value, Ghostbusters is a 10/10. No question. However, in it's use of their token character? A 2/10. They had such a great character with Dr. Winston Zeddemore that was under utilized. Though he does have one of the best lines in the film "When someone asks if you're a god, you tell them YES!", Ernie Hudson's Winston is basically an exposition vehicle without a lot of contribution to the actual action or story. It's even more frustrating knowing that he had a much bigger role in the original script. And to add insult to injury, they denied him the role to voice Winston in the animated show! Sheesh. Who we gunna call to give Ernie his dues in the Ghostbusters universe? Rumor has it the new reboot will finally give Winston the respect he deserves. Fingers - err proton streams - crossed! Yooo also a special shout out to the other token cameo role by Carl Winslow (Reginald VelJohnson)!

    JAY: 40 Year Old Virgin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 33:34


    You're about to cram 20 minutes worth of pimpage into 1 day… Apatow's great because there's some "black vernacular" in here, but its not overused. He knows where the lines are. Sometimes it's like "ya'll really wrote these black characters hella black huh?". When you have a black character written by a white writer, giving the actor freedom to put their cultural spin on it can be crucial to making that character pop off the screen like an authentic person. As Jay, Romany exhibits his blackness fully and LOUDLY. None of his coworkers are street but he lets it all go anyway. Rumpshaker on the tv,  keeping his blaccent on the entire time, he's HERE. There's no justifying Jay or who he is, he's a fuckboy and unashamed…until he has to pay for his actions. As Andre 3000 so poetically rapped, "Ain't a hood n**** but a n**** from the hood". He's not a stereotype, he's just a human being!      

    Dionne & Murray: CLUELESS

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2021 43:05


    A black character that has their own thoughts, agency, and opinions? Is it possible? And in a movie from the 90s no less? Here's a teen comedy that broke the mold. What it looks like for a script to respect its tokens as three-dimensional human beings and not stereotypes? Even the tokens here have nuance, which we love to see. It's easy to make a film with spoiled rich teens that are shallow but these kids have some depth. And Dionne is her own woman. She has fears, desires, and the intelligence to live her own life. There's a whole other convo to be had on Stacey, but Dionne is no second fiddle. She's THAT CHICK. 

    Tulsa Massacre: WATCHMEN

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2021 45:08


    The Tulsa Massacre occurred 100 years ago this month and despite the role it plays in black history, it is still startlingly unknown outside of the black community. We wanted to review what is arguably the most popular work of fictionalized television centered around the Tulsa Massacre and its repercussions for black people in Oklahoma today. Using the events of DC Comics The Watchmen graphic novel as its foundation, HBO's The Watchmen creates its own unique and thought provoking narrative interweaving police, racism, justice and generational trauma into an explosive show that keeps you guessing at every turn. We discuss episodes 1-7. 

    The Protagonist: TENET

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2021 42:05


    You may need subtitles for this one! It’s great to see a black lead in a major blockbuster but tough when that character has a license to "act" black but said character isn't created black. Plotwise, if the concept is so difficult to explain you have to reiterate it in almost every scene, should you start that script back at square one? There are situations you read differently as a black person, and ultra-luxe high end spaces are some of them - even John David can't just put on a Brooks Brothers suit and walk in. Look, there isn't a lot of chocolate in Nolan's films but don’t forget Morgan!

    Henry Sherman: The Royal Tenenbaums

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2021 39:43


    Where are all the whimsical black folk? We love Wes & we love to watch the trials of high functioning dysfunctional people, but when all of the color is on the peripheral, they can start to look like set dressing. Henry Sherman dresses as crisp as the rest but is he deeper than just flesh? He’s the mirror to Royalx Everything you could want in a token character but doesn’t get a chance to call out the explicit racism he is faced with. We love Danny and this is  a film full of national treasures but this gem is underutilized. Black people can be quirky, and whimsical but deep too! Entertainment Value: A, Lazy Diversity Rating: A+ WATCH @blacksincinema & youtube

    Black Trauma: THEM

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2021 51:46


    The internet has been BUZZING with talk of "Black Trauma" with respect to movies and TV. Specifically incited by the launch of Amazon's "THEM", but on a larger scale all of black cinema, and the apparent need to focus on black pain/trauma for entertainment purposes. We decided to take a break from the normal review format to review this larger discussion being had. It is clear that The current times are making us hyper aware of the brutality that has and continues to be afflicted upon black bodies, but is there a place in modern cinema for black pain anymore? Should we let go of the stories that center on black pain and focus on only creating black happiness?

    Rochelle: The Craft

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2021 59:01


    Where they true to Rachel True?  Did they craft a true arc for this token? Are we truly cracking these jokes?  Look, when your blackness is on front row are you officially a part of the story or just diversity hire with acknowledgment? You know it's the 90s when you can wish for anything and the wish is for a smaller ass. Pay attention to the hair though…there's LEVELS to this.  We know that  being black in a white space can put pressure on you that has to be released and apparentlymagic can open that valve. But we still love Jesus!

    The Falcon: The Falcon & The Winter Soldier (Episode One)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2021 46:10


    What’s the point of fancy suits when you can’t afford to pay off your bills? Is The Falcon a broke boi with a Gucci belt on? Steven thinks his money problems track with reality for a black superhero but Donna’s ready for The Falcon to step up and go into the shoes of Captain America already. Does imposter syndrome hit superheroes too? The man fought Thanos and is still being humbled. He needs to be bumped up from JV to Varsity already! And to top it off, The Falcon donated Cap’s shield and they turned around and gave it to a bootleg Captain America, we can’t believe the levels of disrespect!

    Falcon & Fury: Captain America (The Winter Soldier)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2021 78:12


    If you cape for cap, is that a red flag? Donna thinks Sam was "cool" but Steven thinks he had a helluva Tupac-like comeback #WhoShotYa. We just want them to give The Falcon SOME POWERS. His whole existence is humbling. Donna was anxious to see what them hands can do…but instead they cut to what (Sebastian) Stan could do. Everyone get's their shine, and Anthony is just…he's just…flying. Does the Falcon's personality in this give you "wannabe" vibes? Steven is worried Sam won't survive the series. Watch the episode on YouTube & IGTV @tokenblacksincinema Subscribe, Review & Share

    Lillian: Bridesmaids

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2021 45:54


    Strait laced tokens who only react when the protagonist acts out. Diversity as an afterthought. Is Kahlua a stripper or a model employee? Would it have been more memorable for Maya if she played one of the other characters? Is the diversity the meat or the potatoes here? Better yet, are black people just the carrots in the beef stew that is a film? And calling out your token’s blackness. It’s like the N word, not everyone can say it.

    Chastity: 10 Things I Hate About You

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 67:56


    Riot grrrls and black b*tches. The "pre Hamilton" edu-rap swagger of Daryll Mitchell. How would being black change the story for Cat's tough as nails character? How would Cat get away with all of that (very destructive) angry angst? Where is their momma at? If it was a black family what would your guess be? Hot take: Bianca & Cameron are the real villains, Chastity was just doing what she had to do. Give the woman her flowers.

    Akasha: Queen of The Damned (#justice4akasha)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 52:54


    Steven had a tough time sitting through the music. Donna has nothing but fond memories of it. How you gunna make the token the villain, the most interesting character AND the most loyal? When you seek out the woman of your dreams, she tells you what she wants and you decide to go with the side chick, it’s a #N*ggasAintLoyal moment and we learn men will sink their teeth into anyone. Plus we come up with a whole new pitch for the black reboot that Anne Rice will need to sign off on. #Justice4Akasha

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