Podcasts about nontraditional premedical

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Session 62 My name is Dr. Ryan Gray and I am the Director of the National Society for Nontraditional Premedical and Medical Students, also known as OldPreMeds. Taken directly from the forums at OldPreMeds.org, our question this week comes from a nontraditional student who took a lot of classes many years ago and is wondering what's the best route to take to get back into the premed game. OldPreMeds Question of the Week: "I’m new here and so glad to have found this site. I graduated with a science degree in 2000 at a competitive school, and while I was interested in medicine and took all the premed required courses and had around a 3.5 GPA, I wasn’t sure about my passion for it, and frankly not mature enough for that commitment. Instead, I got an MPH in Health Management and have been in the field ever since working in health IT, management consulting, and currently working at a hospital managing a department. But after seventeen years of working in healthcare, I want to move from being in the support services and management to being a care provider, and looking to explore getting an MD or a DO. I should also mention that I’m married and have two young kids, so certainly this is a decision that would disrupt all our lives. I know my coursework is outdated but what options should I pursue? I contacted one postbac program near me and they said I would qualify for their two-year-career changer program and would have to retake all my old courses, and that a lot of schools want to see all course requirements done within the last five years. I really don’t want to take two years to retake coursework and have been reading about do-it-yourself postbacs, but I am unclear on how many courses to take and what courses to take for that matter to make me a more attractive candidate. I’m looking at the websites of schools near me, I live in southern California, but it seems unclear. Also would I need to take any extracurriculars? I work in healthcare, and while I’m not a provider, I know a lot of the ins and outs, sacrifices and dedication needed. It’s been a long while but in the past, pre-marriage and pre-kids, I volunteered for hospice and enjoyed it. Extracurriculars would be tough with kids so I’m hoping to avoid it if possible. I’m just starting this process so any advice is welcome." Here are my insights: This is an example of someone who has been having that itch of getting into medical school that has never really gone away, which is common to a lot of nontraditional premed students. [3:40] Taking Postbacs & Working Full-Time or Part-Time Now that you have your wife and kids, the question is, can you afford to stop working to take classes full-time? When I recently attended University of Central Florida's Medical School Admissions Symposium, I had dinner with a bunch of premeds and nontrad premeds and talked with Cain (listen to his journey on The Premed Years Podcast Session 174). Now a first year medical student, Cain was also a nontrad premed who was working full time. At dinner, he mentioned that he wished he would have been more intentional and that he should have pulled that trigger a little bit sooner to stop working full time and jump back into his courses. So this is something you need to think about whether you really want to commit and reduce your workload and go part time (if you can), or quit altogether and rely on your spouse's income (if possible). [05:45] Retaking Coursework The fact that your prereqs are 17 years old, that can and will play a role in many schools accepting you. While I agree that schools like to see coursework done within five years, I don't know if I would say “a lot of schools.” I’d say, there are some schools out there that would want to see newer coursework. Newer coursework is going to help prepare for the MCAT as this is going to be the big hurdle. Hence, retaking the coursework to prepare for the MCAT is something you might want to think about. [06: 25] Extracurriculars If location is an issue and you can only go to a handful medical schools then start to get to know them and reach out to them. Explain to medical schools your situation and ask them. I've talked with the Dean of Admissions at UCF when I was there for the symposium and he mentioned that they love nontraditional students because they add so much to the class. He also said that when they're looking at an application, they do look at what your responsibilities are as you're going through these process. So if you have a family and a job, they're not going to assume you have all extra time to go and do all these crazy extracurriculars. So think about how much time have you got for all of this stuff. Are you able to quit your job? Or call these schools to see what they say. Medical schools have different ways of looking at students so reach out to them and find out. Even if you have healthcare work experience, it doesn't mean you fully understand what it's like to be a physician. So you need to shadow some physicians to get that experience of what it's like to be one. As a healthcare administrator, you're probably not around with patients a lot so you need to put yourself in clinical situations. Try to put yourself around as many patients as you can and get that experience of being around sick people again to make sure you enjoy it. [08:45] Retaking Classes to Prepare for the MCAT You have a couple options to take. You can go to a formal do-it-yourself postbac which can be very costly and can take you a year or two to do it. You can also take a do-it-yourself postbac and pick and choose the classes you want to retake. But do this only after making sure that it's okay with them that you're not retaking all of your prereqs (because maybe they just want to see whether you've still got science under your belt and prove to them that you can handle the load and coursework.) As I’ve already mentioned, the first step is to reach out to the schools you’re interested in applying to and ask them. Tell them your situation and go from there. Links: MedEd Media Network University of Central Florida - Medical School Admissions Symposium The Premed Years Podcast Session 174: Academically Dismissed to Medical Acceptance (My interview with Cain)

Ryan Gray turned his education and passion into an online business to help premed students succeed! Ryan Gray is a former Flight Surgeon in the United States Air Force. Ryan graduated from the University of Florida (GO GATORS!) with a B.S. in Exercise and Sports Sciences, and received his M.D. from New York Medical College. After graduating from medical school, Ryan completed his internship through a Tufts Medical Center transitional medicine program at Lemuel Shattuck Hospital. Ryan is the publisher of MedicalSchoolHQ.net and OldPreMeds.org and the podcast host of The Premed Years and the OldPreMeds Podcast. He is also the Director of the National Society of Nontraditional Premedical and Medical Students. Matt and I take the first hour and a half to talk about a ton of topics that have been burning on my mind this past week! Interview with Dr Ryan Gray May 20th 2 year anniversary charity event  The Temps movie doing so well on its opening week. Ryan Sage interview back on episode 94.  Quality over quantity when it comes to making friends and connections. Bringing networks of people together can move mountains.  Update on #EverythingPaysRent money intake ( over $10,000 received so far)  How do I stay motivated?  Joe you are supposed to slow down, aren't you overwhelmed? Keep a running check list of things that need to be done in the near future and a future list for things that you want to accomplish in the distant future. Break them down to smallest tasks so you don't overwhelm yourself and put them off. Talk about how much money do you have to make before you can compromise yourself. Mike's job has amazing benefits. But it's essentially not enough work to make him fulfilled. Soul sucking. Do we not take advice of pweoplr we know seriously enough? Extremism and how we are forced into having to be extreme or be ignored. Google Play Store now has podcasts! Tony Hawk 2 where are they now? Slick Rick becomes US citizen after 23 years and more to announce Shoot me your questions to Joe@SuperJoePardo.com https://youtu.be/8MV3ULJ5jDg Episode 226

Ryan Gray turned his education and passion into an online business to help premed students succeed! Ryan Gray is a former Flight Surgeon in the United States Air Force. Ryan graduated from the University of Florida (GO GATORS!) with a B.S. in Exercise and Sports Sciences, and received his M.D. from New York Medical College. After graduating from medical school, Ryan completed his internship through a Tufts Medical Center transitional medicine program at Lemuel Shattuck Hospital. Ryan is the publisher of MedicalSchoolHQ.net and OldPreMeds.org and the podcast host of The Premed Years and the OldPreMeds Podcast. He is also the Director of the National Society of Nontraditional Premedical and Medical Students. Matt and I take the first hour and a half to talk about a ton of topics that have been burning on my mind this past week! Interview with Dr Ryan Gray May 20th 2 year anniversary charity event  The Temps movie doing so well on its opening week. Ryan Sage interview back on episode 94.  Quality over quantity when it comes to making friends and connections. Bringing networks of people together can move mountains.  Update on #EverythingPaysRent money intake ( over $10,000 received so far)  How do I stay motivated?  Joe you are supposed to slow down, aren't you overwhelmed? Keep a running check list of things that need to be done in the near future and a future list for things that you want to accomplish in the distant future. Break them down to smallest tasks so you don't overwhelm yourself and put them off. Talk about how much money do you have to make before you can compromise yourself. Mike's job has amazing benefits. But it's essentially not enough work to make him fulfilled. Soul sucking. Do we not take advice of pweoplr we know seriously enough? Extremism and how we are forced into having to be extreme or be ignored. Google Play Store now has podcasts! Tony Hawk 2 where are they now? Slick Rick becomes US citizen after 23 years and more to announce Shoot me your questions to Joe@SuperJoePardo.com https://youtu.be/8MV3ULJ5jDg Episode 226

Ryan Gray turned his education and passion into an online business to help premed students succeed! Ryan Gray is a former Flight Surgeon in the United States Air Force. Ryan graduated from the University of Florida (GO GATORS!) with a B.S. in Exercise and Sports Sciences, and received his M.D. from New York Medical College. After graduating from medical school, Ryan completed his internship through a Tufts Medical Center transitional medicine program at Lemuel Shattuck Hospital. Ryan is the publisher of MedicalSchoolHQ.net and OldPreMeds.org and the podcast host of The Premed Years and the OldPreMeds Podcast. He is also the Director of the National Society of Nontraditional Premedical and Medical Students. Matt and I take the first hour and a half to talk about a ton of topics that have been burning on my mind this past week! Interview with Dr Ryan Gray May 20th 2 year anniversary charity event  The Temps movie doing so well on its opening week. Ryan Sage interview back on episode 94.  Quality over quantity when it comes to making friends and connections. Bringing networks of people together can move mountains.  Update on #EverythingPaysRent money intake ( over $10,000 received so far)  How do I stay motivated?  Joe you are supposed to slow down, aren't you overwhelmed? Keep a running check list of things that need to be done in the near future and a future list for things that you want to accomplish in the distant future. Break them down to smallest tasks so you don't overwhelm yourself and put them off. Talk about how much money do you have to make before you can compromise yourself. Mike's job has amazing benefits. But it's essentially not enough work to make him fulfilled. Soul sucking. Do we not take advice of pweoplr we know seriously enough? Extremism and how we are forced into having to be extreme or be ignored. Google Play Store now has podcasts! Tony Hawk 2 where are they now? Slick Rick becomes US citizen after 23 years and more to announce Shoot me your questions to Joe@SuperJoePardo.com https://youtu.be/8MV3ULJ5jDg Episode 226

Ryan Gray turned his education and passion into an online business to help premed students succeed! Ryan Gray is a former Flight Surgeon in the United States Air Force. Ryan graduated from the University of Florida (GO GATORS!) with a B.S. in Exercise and Sports Sciences, and received his M.D. from New York Medical College. After graduating from medical school, Ryan completed his internship through a Tufts Medical Center transitional medicine program at Lemuel Shattuck Hospital. Ryan is the publisher of MedicalSchoolHQ.net and OldPreMeds.org and the podcast host of The Premed Years and the OldPreMeds Podcast. He is also the Director of the National Society of Nontraditional Premedical and Medical Students. Matt and I take the first hour and a half to talk about a ton of topics that have been burning on my mind this past week! Interview with Dr Ryan Gray May 20th 2 year anniversary charity event  The Temps movie doing so well on its opening week. Ryan Sage interview back on episode 94.  Quality over quantity when it comes to making friends and connections. Bringing networks of people together can move mountains.  Update on #EverythingPaysRent money intake ( over $10,000 received so far)  How do I stay motivated?  Joe you are supposed to slow down, aren't you overwhelmed? Keep a running check list of things that need to be done in the near future and a future list for things that you want to accomplish in the distant future. Break them down to smallest tasks so you don't overwhelm yourself and put them off. Talk about how much money do you have to make before you can compromise yourself. Mike's job has amazing benefits. But it's essentially not enough work to make him fulfilled. Soul sucking. Do we not take advice of pweoplr we know seriously enough? Extremism and how we are forced into having to be extreme or be ignored. Google Play Store now has podcasts! Tony Hawk 2 where are they now? Slick Rick becomes US citizen after 23 years and more to announce Shoot me your questions to Joe@SuperJoePardo.com https://youtu.be/8MV3ULJ5jDg Episode 226

Session 10 Every week, we answer your questions here on the OldPreMeds Podcast where Ryan and Rich Levy again dive into the forums over at OldPreMeds.org, pull a question, and deliver the answers right on to you. Today, however, is a fun and unique episode as we re-introduce Rich and get to know him more in-depth… Here are the highlights of the conversation with Rich Levy Rich’s path to the OldPreMeds.org Having the epiphany of wanting to go back to medical school in 2002 Coming across the website for the National Society for Nontraditional Premedical and Medical Students, otherwise known as OldPreMeds.org, a small online group that he got involved with By 2005, Rich took over as the group's business manager, running conferences Rich has helped develop the organization into a much more solid and effective resource for nontraditional students Getting to see all the sides of the medical school application process giving Rich a different view and understanding Factors that did not allow Rich to go to medical school Personal relationships Monetary considerations Financial crisis Lessons learned from taking the postbac To prove to medical schools that he can do it. To prove to your yourself that you want to do it, willing to work this hard and long to get to some place Major takeaway from this episode Consider postbac as much expensive place, time, effort, and resources to answer that question and realize in your first year that you can't really do this. Links and Other Resources Check out Tim Horeczko’s podcast The Pediatrics Emergency Medicine Playbook If you have questions you want answered here on the OldPremeds Podcast, go to oldpremeds.org and register for an account. Go into the forums and ask a question. Listen to our first episode at OPMPodcast.com/1 to find out more about who we are. Also check out the Premed Years Podcast at www.medicalschoolhq.net. Find us on iTunes and go to opmpodcast.com/itunes and leave us a rating and review. Check out MedEdMedia.com for all the shows that we produce including The Premed Years and the OldPreMeds Podcast. We will soon be launching a medical school podcast as well so stay tuned! Email Dr. Ryan Gray at ryan@medicalschoolhq.net or connect with him on Twitter @medicalschoolhq.

In today’s episode, Ryan talks with Richard Levy, the Executive Director of the National Society for Nontraditional Premedical and Medical Students and the publisher of the OldPreMeds.org, which is the main website for the society. Links and Other Resources: Full Episode Blog Post OldPreMeds.org 10 Things Every Non-Traditional Premed Should Know Pancakes Every Day Video and Original Post MCAT 2013 AACOMAS Instruction Manual If you need any help with the medical school interview, go to medschoolinterviewbook.com. Sign up and you will receive parts of the book so you can help shape the future of the book. This book will include over 500 questions that may be asked during interview day as well as real-life questions, answers, and feedback from all of the mock interviews Ryan has been doing with students. Are you a nontraditional student? Go check out oldpremeds.org. For more great content, check out www.mededmedia.com for more of the shows produced by the Medical School Headquarters including the OldPremeds Podcast and watch out for more shows in the future! Free MCAT Gift: Free 30+ page guide with tips to help you maximize your MCAT score and which includes discount codes for MCAT prep as well. Hang out with us over at medicalschoolhq.net/group. Click join and we’ll add you up to our private Facebook group. Share your successes and miseries with the rest of us. Check out our partner magazine, www.premedlife.com to learn more about awesome premed information. Next Step Test Prep: Get one-on-one tutoring for the MCAT and maximize your score. Get $50 off their tutoring program when you mention that you heard about this on the podcast or through the MSHQ website. Check out their 10-full length practice tests and save 10% using the code “MSHQ”. Listen to our podcast for free at iTunes: medicalschoolhq.net/itunes and leave us a review there! Email Ryan at ryan@medicalschoolhq.net or connect with him on Twitter @medicalschoolhq