Gold/Fox: Non Billable

Mark Schuh, an attorney in Orange County, NY and Town Justice in Crawford, NY joins Sarah and Michael to talk about how he went from a police officer to a lawyer and what it's like to have your pilot's license.

Daniel Marotta, attorney at the firm Gabor & Marotta, joins Michael and Sarah to discuss his band The Resistance, a popular cover band on Staten Island. Marotta is an original member and lead guitarist talks about how the band came together and what they're doing to help local music venues and restaurants impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Orin Cohen, a personal injury lawyer from Staten Island joins Sarah and Michael to talk about his love for cooking and recommends some dishes to make for the upcoming holiday season.

Jerry Goldfeder, the chair of NYSBA Task Force on the Presidential Election joins Sarah and Michael to talk about the results of the presidential election and predicts what legal battles are on the horizon should the vote-counting process be challenged in court.

Hank Greenberg, Immediate Past President of the New York State Bar Association joins Sarah and Michael to talk about his term as NYSBA President, including some of his proudest accomplishments. They also discuss how the role of technology is changing the legal profession and how the legal community responded to the COVID-19 global pandemic.

Quentin Sims is a third-year law student at Case Western Reserve Law School and also a standout wide receiver, having played in the Arena Football League most recently for the Albany Empire. He joins Sarah and Michael to talk about what inspired him to attend law school while achieving his dream to play professional football and how he managed to balance classwork and playing football.

Elen Krut, an associate at Vaslas, Lewpowsky, Huass & Danke in Staten Island, joins Sarah and Michael to talk about her decision to transition from being a psychology major to attending law school and how she makes time to write and self-publish several non-fiction and poetry books.

Judge Mae D'Agostino joins the show for a wide-ranging conversation where she discusses how growing up in a household that valued education led her to become a lawyer as well as her passion for educating young people and attorneys about the benefits of civics.

Mike Schmidt, the newly elected district attorney for Portland, Oregon joins the show to talk about, his path to the law, growing up in upstate New York, and what it's like being deemed an 'Anarchist Jurisdiction' by the Department of Justice within the first few months on the job.

Christopher Riano, President of the Center for Civic Education and author of the new book 'Marriage Equality: From Outlaws to In-laws,' joins Sarah and Michael to talk about his path to the law and the history of the fight for marriage equality.

Sarah Gold and Michael Fox are back for season 3 of Gold/Fox: Non-Billable. This week they talk to each other about what it's been like returning to teach on campus with COVID-19 precautions in place and how they're adjusting to the new normal.

Domenick Napoletano, a solo practitioner in Brooklyn and NYSBA Treasurer joins the show to talk about how as a solo practitioner he's adjusted to working amidst the COVID-19 pandemic, how he became involved in bar association work and some of the unique activites he takes part in with his colleagues.

Hon. Karen Peters and Libby Coreno, the co-chairs of the NYSBA Attorney Well-being Task Force join the show to talk about their path on how they became involved in this area of the law, how cultural expectations have led to unhealthy work habits in the legal profession and how the Task Force will examine the factors that negatively impact the health and well-being of the legal community.

Danielle Quinn, an associate at Patterson, Bellknap, Webb & Tyler in Manhattan, joins the show to talk about her role with the Historical Society of the New York Courts' project to document how attorneys all across New York have responded to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Rick Collins, partner at Collins, Gann, McCloskey, & Barry on Long Island is this week's guest. Collins talks about his practice work in criminal defense and how he began his career as a Nassau County Assistant District Attorney. Collins, a past president of the Nassau County Bar Association, then talks about his acting career, where he stared in the "Toxic Avenger" TV series and had a brief role in the HBO classic "The Sopranos." He also talks about his passion for weightlifting and recalls the time he met his childhood idol, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Patricia Salkin is the Professor of Law and Provost, Graduate and Professional Divisions and former Dean at Touro College Jacob D. Fuchsberg Law Center. She joins the show to talk about her career in higher education, how the skills a lawyer learns throughout their career can prepare them for a leadership role on a college campus, and how she’s translated her love for Billy Joel into a law course.

Retired U.S. Magistrate Judge from the Southern District of New York, Andrew Peck joins Sarah and Mike this week to talk about his path to the law, how he became a judge, and what he does now that he's retired from the bench.

Lee Redeye an associate at Lippes, Mathias, Wexler, Friedman in Buffalo is this week's guest. Redeye who is a member of the Seneca Nation of Indians talks about his community involvement with the Seneca Commission for Economic Development and the Native American Legal Assistance Clinic, which he founded. He also discusses his path to the law and how he got his start practicing Indian law, commercial litigation, and how he became involved in various pro bono initiatives

Marne Onderdonk, Court Attorney for Hon. Margaret T. Walsh in Albany County Family Court joins the show to talk about her path to the law, her commitment to Bar Association service, and her passion for bird watching. Onderdonk, a past president of the Saratoga County Bar Association, board member of the Adirondack Women's Bar Association and a member of the NYSBA House of Delegates describes how her commitment to bar association service has led her to make lifelong connections with fellow practitioners and allowed her to continue to learn from colleagues in different practice areas. Onderdonk also talks about her passion for birding or bird watching, which was instilled in her by her grandparents. Michael and Sarah quiz her knowledge of bird sounds.

Stephen Younger and Hon. Albert Rosenblatt join the show to talk about the Historical Society of the New York Courts and the recent webinar Lessons Learned From the 1918 Pandemic: Historical and Legal Framework of the Spanish Flu and How It Relates to Today's Crisis.

Sarah Gold and Michael Fox are back for season 2 of the Gold/Fox: Non-Billable Podcast. No guest this week, instead, Sarah and Mike interview each other and catch up on how their lives have been impacted by the shutdown and stay-at-home orders. Sarah recalls her road trip across the southern United States in mid-March right as the novel coronavirus began to cause shutdowns of nonessential businesses across the country. She also talks about some of the work she does with the New York State Bar Association and how her work as a solo practitioner and professor has shifted online. Michael talks about his work as a professor at Mount Saint Mary's College and Columbia University, including the study abroad course's he has co-designed that has brought him to places like Australia, to study the difference in health care systems to mining towns in Pennsylvania, to study the history of workers in America. He also discusses his career transition to becoming a professor, after spending 13 years as a practicing attorney in New York City and the Hudson Valley.

Albany County Bar Association President Dan Hurteau joins Sarah and Michael for a wide-ranging conversation about his upbringing in an upstate NY town with a population of 200, how cross country road trips with family during his youth led him to become a lawyer and how beneficial pro bono work can be for young lawyers. Hurteau, partner at Nixon Peabody in Albany, NY talks about his upbringing in North Bangor, NY, seven miles from the Canadian border, how multiple family cross country vacations led him to see the diversity and largess of the United States and contributed to him becoming attending law school. Hurteau then discusses some of the pro bono work he has done throughout his career the culture of pro bono service at Nixon Peabody was instilled in him on his first day. The conversation closes with a discussion about Hurteau's passion for the outdoors. From his preferred exercise choices of cross country skiing, running and bicycling, the latter being Dan's preferred choice of transportation to and from work, to his quest to become an Adirondack 46er. As the outgoing president of the ACBA, Hurteau gives some words of wisdom for young lawyers, thinking about joining bar associations. "Get Involved, Stay Involved, Be Involved." The Non-Billable podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Louise Carron, Executive Director at the Center for Art Law joins Sarah and Michael to discuss her truly unique path to the law, the work being done at the Center for Art Law and fascinating discussion about 'street art.' Carron, a native Parisian, talks about some of her favorite exhibits in the Louvre and her recent trip to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art. She then goes on to describe the work being done at the Center for Art Law - and how the need for a central database of art law information, articles, and law programs inspired her mentor to create the center. The discussion closes with a fascinating discussion on her Street Art article, from the November 2019 NYSBA Bar Journal and about which types of street art have copyright protection, which don't and the relevant case law surrounding this topic. The Non-Billable podcast is hosted by NYSBA members Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

NYSBA's 120th President (2017-18), Sharon Stern Gerstman joins Sarah and Michael to talk about her path to law, how the card game, bridge, is responsible for meeting her husband and how quitting smoking led her to take up knitting. Gerstman, counsel at Magavern Magavern Grimm in Buffalo, recalls how her mother knew she was destined to be a lawyer at the age of 5, how a lack of maternity leave policy at a tax firm resulted in her taking a position with the New York Supreme Court in the Eighth Judicial District, where she stayed for 30 years. Finally, Gerstman discusses her unique hobby of knitting and how that has led her to knitting seminars, festivals, and competitions, like the New York Sheep and Wool Festival, 'Sock Madness,' 'Tour de Sock,' and 'The Canadian Crazy Train.' You'll never guess what country, Gerstman claims produces the fastest and best competitive knitters. The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Scott Karson, president-elect of the New York State Bar Association and partner at Lamb & Barnosky, joins Michael and Sarah to discuss how he went from a social studies student-teacher to Syracuse College of Law. He also talks about the time he attended a music festival in upstate New York during the summer of 1969 and the travel opportunities he and his family have had thanks to his position as a delegate to the American Bar Association. The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Judge Jonah Triebwasser (Red Hook, NY) joins Michael and Sarah for a discussion about his dual duty as a Town and Village Justice, his path to the law, and his 'other career' as a Franklin D. Roosevelt historical interpreter. The 32nd President of the United States then sits down with Michael and Sarah and recounts the 1939 visit by King George VI and Queen Elizabeth to his home in Hyde Park, NY and gives advice to today's electorate. The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Leslie Stein, Associate Judge of the New York Court of Appeals, joins Sarah and Michael to discuss how she nearly became a psychologist rather than go to law school, the day in the life of a Court of Appeals judge, and how a good meal keeps her centered. Judge Stein shares the story of being rejected for a position at the NY State Appellate Division, Third Department early in her career, before being appointed Justice of the Third Department and serving for over 6 years. The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

Dan Nolan, President & CEO of Hugh Johnson Advisors and co-owner of the Albany Empire, joins Sarah and Michael to discuss how he used his law degree to carve out a niche in the business world, the advice he gives to young professionals and college students and the rich history of professional sports in Albany. Dan shares how he became involved as an owner for the Albany Empire, the potential growth for the Arena Football League in the coming years. Finally, Sarah closes the episode by re-living the 2019 AFL Championship Game, which the Albany Empire won!

Kelly McNamee, an associate at Greenberg Traurig in Albany, NY joins Michael and Sarah for an in-depth conversation about her essay in the June/July NYSBA Journal and her unique path in the law. They also talk about Kelly's transition from working and living in Manhattan and Brooklyn to working and living in the Capital Region. They discuss the top-5 things she misses about NYC-life. Then in a NYSBA Podcast first, Kelly challenges NYSBA President Hank Greenberg.....to a competitive game of pool. The Non-Billable Podcast is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.

In the premiere of the Non-Billable Pod, Sarah and Mike talk to NYSBA's 118th President and host of Miranda Warnings, David Miranda. They discuss Miranda's path to law and how his career as an intellectual property lawyer began in the 1990s by focusing on this thing called the internet. They also talk about David's (in)famous comedy routines that are a staple of nearly all NYSBA dinners and events. Sarah and Mike then turn the interview over to David, so he can test their trivia chops and then share a lighthearted news story about an asteroid! The Non-Billable pod is hosted by Sarah Gold and Michael Fox.