The Care Leaders's Podcast

"Corporate parenting" is a phrase we hear often in children's social care, but what does it really mean in practice? Does it provide real solutions, or is it just another buzzword in the sector? In this episode of Conversations That Care, Luke Rodgers and Karylle Phillips take a deep dive into the heart of corporate parenting—its principles, challenges, and potential to transform the lives of children and families.Here's what you'll uncover:The Origins of Corporate ParentingWhy was this term introduced, and how does it aim to shift the culture within children's services?The balance between "corporate" and "parenting"—is the terminology part of the problem?Real-World ChallengesHow do frontline workers, local authorities, and policymakers interpret and implement corporate parenting principles?The disconnect between central government guidance and local practice.Reframing Corporate ParentingWhy "enhancing family life" should be at the core of corporate parenting.Practical, actionable ways councils and communities can support children and foster families, from subsidized transport to building stronger relationships with local businesses.Critical ReflectionsAre the principles too vague? What's missing in the guidance?How does this framework truly address the diverse needs of children, families, and communities?A Call to ActionWhat can professionals, leaders, and the wider community do to bridge the gap between intention and impact?Luke and Carol share their key takeaways: simple, powerful questions like “How can I enhance family life?” to guide every decision and action.Why Listen?Whether you're a social worker, local authority leader, educator, or someone passionate about improving outcomes for care-experienced young people, this episode challenges conventional thinking and encourages meaningful conversations.

In this episode of Conversations that Care, hosts Luke Rodgers and Karyell Phillips dive into the challenges and realities of leaving care. They unpack the “cliff edge” experience for young people transitioning out of the care system, discussing the emotional and practical struggles that often come with this pivotal moment. From the sudden loss of support systems to the overwhelming expectations of independence, Luke and Karyell explore how we can better equip care leavers for the future. Tune in for a deep conversation on the need for innovation and support in leaving care services, and hear about personal stories and potential solutions that could make a difference.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode, Luke and Karylle delve into the complex and often overlooked role of social workers. They discuss the impact of social workers on the lives of children in care, exploring both the positive and negative experiences.From personal anecdotes to broader systemic issues, Luke and Karylle unpack the challenges and rewards of a career in social work. They discuss the importance of listening to young people, the impact of loss on social workers, and the potential for long-lasting relationships between social workers and the children they support.This episode offers a unique perspective on social work, highlighting the human element behind the profession and the profound impact it can have on individuals and communities.Listen now and please share your comments with us. Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this months episode, hosts Luke Rodgers and Karylle Phillips look at the complexities of child placements within the social care system. With their combined experience as care leavers and professionals, they explore the ongoing debate surrounding local authorities, independent providers, and the quality of care offered.Luke and Karylle share personal stories and insights, challenging listeners to consider the pros and cons of different placement options. They discuss the importance of quality care, the role of private fostering agencies, and the need for innovation within the sector.Whether you're a social worker, foster carer, or simply interested in children's social care, this episode offers a nuanced perspective on a critical issue facing the children's care sector.Listen now to discover:The challenges and benefits of local authority and independent placementsThe impact of unregulated placements on vulnerable young peopleStrategies for improving the quality of care in the social care systemDon't miss this incredible conversation on' Conversations That Care.'Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode of Conversations That Care, Luke and Karylle delve into the intricate world of young people navigating the complexities of school and social care. With Karylle's unique perspective as a care-experienced social worker, teacher, and aspiring lawyer, listeners gain invaluable insights into the challenges faced by these vulnerable individuals.From the impact of COVID-19 on education to the delicate balance between child-focused systems and the demands on social workers, this episode sparks thought-provoking discussions. Luke and Karylle explore the importance of collaboration between schools and social care, the role of foster carers, and the need for a holistic approach to behaviour management.Whether you're a professional working in education, social care, or youth work, or simply someone passionate about child welfare, this episode offers a fresh perspective and practical insights into improving the lives of young people in care.Tune in to discover:The challenges faced by young people balancing school and social careThe importance of collaboration between schools and social care professionalsThe role of foster carers in supporting young peopleThe need for a nuanced approach to behaviour managementDon't miss this essential conversation about creating a better future for our young people.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

Relationships, relationships, relationships, this is something we hear echo the metaphorical corridors of our sector. We talk about the power of relationships and the transformative impact they can have for young people. We advocate for permeant relationships to be available for care experienced people, and we even formalise it with phrases like ‘relationship focussed practice'. It's clear we believe in revolution through relationships – so it only made sense that Karylle and Luke got together and spoke about it. Tune into this month's podcast where we talk about our relationship, the relationships we had with adults growing up and the impact that people have had on our lives. Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

If you've read any of Luke's blogs, you will know that he is unsure about making care experience a protected characteristic. This view is shared by many, and people have asked him to share his perspective since the campaign began because they are unsure too. The main reasons for concern include the lack of evidence to suggest this will have an impact, insufficient consultation with care-experienced people about making it a protected characteristic (that equates to the volume of people this will impact), and uncertainty about the next steps once it's established as a protected characteristic. Karylle and Luke got together to discuss this topic openly and honestly on our podcast, and we hope more people will come forward and share their concerns publicly too.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

Speakers: Luke Rodgers: Founder of The Care Leaders, lived experience leader and former fellow at the University of Oxford.Karylle Phillips: Qualified teacher, social worker, and trauma-informed practitioner.Podcast Overview:In this engaging episode, Luke Rodgers and Karylle Phillips delve into the nuances of sharing lived experiences in the social care sector. They discuss their transition from sharing personal stories to becoming key figures in advocating for systemic change. Highlights of the Episode: 1. Personal Journeys:Luke and Karylle recount their beginnings in sharing their personal stories to raise awareness and drive change. They discuss how their roles evolved from storytellers to consultants and trainers, highlighting the importance of authenticity and ethical considerations in sharing personal narratives.2. Influence of Lived Experiences:The discussion covers how sharing lived experiences can impact policy and practice within the social care system. They emphasise the need for engaging lived experience leaders in meaningful ways beyond just storytelling. 3. Ethical Considerations and Challenges:They address the ethical dilemmas of sharing personal trauma and the risk of re-traumatization. The conversation touches on the power dynamics involved in sharing stories and the necessity of support systems for lived experience leaders. 4. Transition and Skill Development:Luke and Karylle talk about moving from sharing personal stories to acquiring skills and knowledge that drive systemic change. They highlight the importance of training and mentorship for lived experience leaders to enhance their impact.5. Future Integration:The episode concludes with insights on integrating lived experiences more effectively into the social care sector. Luke and Karylle advocate for investing in lived experience leaders and providing them with the tools and support needed to translate their insights into actionable change. Tune In:Listeners are encouraged to join this thought-provoking conversation on the power and ethics of sharing lived experiences. This episode offers valuable insights for practitioners, policy-makers, and anyone connected to the care system.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In our latest podcast episode of "In Conversation With," we sit down with the inspirational Luke Rodgers BEM, the founder of The Care Leaders.

In this episode, your hosts, Luke Rodgers BEM, Karylle Phillips and Dave Linton, engage in a thought-provoking discussion titled "Redefining Narratives: Why Changing Words Won't Change Worlds."Language plays a crucial role in how we perceive and interact with the world, especially when it comes to children in care and care leavers. The episode explores the significance of language in the context of trauma-informed practice, emphasising that it's not just about being politically correct; it's about ensuring that young people and adults understand each other effectively.Luke shares a personal story from his childhood in care, highlighting how the choice of words can have unintended consequences on a child's perception and emotional well-being. He vividly describes how a seemingly harmless phrase led to a completely different interpretation, demonstrating the need for clear and empathetic communication.Dave Linton chimes in with his perspective, explaining that while changing language is a step in the right direction, it's not the sole solution to changing outcomes for care-experienced individuals. He challenges the common belief that altering terminology is the key to transforming attitudes and practices.Tune in as our hosts explore the complexities of language and its impact on the lives of those in care, shedding light on the broader issues surrounding the care system. Discover why it's essential to move beyond surface-level changes in language and work toward shifting perceptions and dismantling stereotypes.If you're a social worker, teacher, therapist, or simply someone interested in understanding and improving the lives of children in care, this episode is a must-listen. Join us on "In Conversation With" as we navigate the intricate web of language, perceptions, and experiences that matter for children in care, care leavers, and those with a social worker. Together, we aim to create a more empathetic and inclusive communityFollow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode, we dive into the pressing question: "Can Youth Participation Avoid Tokenism?" With a blend of personal stories and professional insights, Luke and Karylle share their lived experiences and effective strategies to authentically involve young people.Drawing from their diverse backgrounds spanning lived experience and professional practices, the hosts shed light on the challenges of tokenism in youth engagement. Through engaging anecdotes, they reveal how tokenism can hinder progress and sideline genuine voices.However, the episode goes beyond identifying issues. Luke and Karylle provide actionable tips to shift from tokenistic gestures to meaningful involvement. From co-creation approaches to fostering open and safe dialogues, they offer practical methods to reshape the way youth participation is approached.Tune in now as Luke and Karylle uncover insights that resonate with anyone passionate about authentic youth engagement. Gain valuable perspectives on empowering young voices and driving positive change.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode, we explore the complex world of social work relationships and the reasons why children often experience changes in their social workers. Luke shares a poignant personal story of his own experience as a looked-after child and how his first social worker's departure left a lasting impression. The hosts explore the various factors that lead to social worker changes, such as organisational restructures and job turnover, and how these shifts can impact the stability and permanence that young people in care desperately need. They also discuss the challenges social workers face in balancing the pursuit of stability with the reality of a fragile and ever-changing system. Tune in to discover the importance of radical honesty in building relationships with young people, acknowledging the inherent instability within the system, and creating a space where genuine connections can flourish.Join Luke and Karylle in this thought-provoking conversation that highlights the need for open discussions about endings and the evolving role of social workers in today's ever-changing landscape.Note: This episode is a part of a series that aims to shed light on critical issues within the children social care profession and the lives of those involved in the care system.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode as we delve into the crucial topic of care-experienced young people and their involvement in crime and exploitation. Our hosts examine the reasons behind increased criminal behaviour, the importance of meaningful activities, and the need to challenge stereotypes. Gain valuable insights and personal anecdotes as we explore the challenges faced by care experienced young people  and the urgent need for change. Don't miss this enlightening discussion that aims to reshape the narrative and create a brighter future for all.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode we explore the realities of leaving care and the challenges of becoming independent overnight. Our hosts Luke Rodgers, Karylle Phillips, lived experience leaders, and Dave Linton, founder of Madlug, come together to share their insights on this important topic.We delve into the struggles faced by young people transitioning out of care and into adulthood. We discuss the shortcomings of the current system and the need for a more holistic approach to support these individuals. While budgeting is essential, the speakers argue that young people need more significant adults in their lives to provide a network of support.Our hosts also highlight the importance of community and how leaving care can be a traumatic experience. They share their own experiences of feeling trapped and the need for a more compassionate approach to caring for young people who have experienced trauma.If you are someone who has left care or you work with young people who are leaving care, this podcast is for you. Join us as we explore the reality of leaving care and the support needed to help these individuals transition into successful, independent adults.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode we hear from Luke Rodgers and Karylle Phillips, both lived experience leaders, and Dave Linton, the founder of Madlug, the focus is on how to effectively communicate with teenagers. The discussion centers around the fact that teenagers in care often present a particular challenge, and many adults struggle to connect with them. We delve into the reasons behind this and explore the ways in which adults can engage with young people to foster better communication. We discuss the importance of recognising the history and trauma that many of these teenagers have experienced, and how this impacts their behaviour and communication. We also talk about the common triggers that adults experience when communicating with teenagers, and how these can be overcome. The episode is titled "Communication: How to Get Teenagers to Talk Back to You" and aims to provide insights and strategies for anyone working with young people, particularly those in care, to improve communication and build stronger relationships.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In this episode we hear from Luke Rodgers and Karylle Phillips, both lived experience leaders, and Dave Linton, the founder of Madlug. Together, they discuss the real-life experiences of moving from one foster care placement to another, the challenges that come with this process, and what it truly means to find permanency.Through their personal stories and expertise, Luke, Karylle, and Dave shed light on the difficulties young people face when transitioning between foster homes and the impact it can have on their lives. They explore the importance of stability and security for young people in care, and how we can better support them during these transitions.Join us for this insightful conversation as we learn about the realities of foster care transitions and how we can all work towards a better future for children and young people in care.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

Ric Flo is a lived experience leader, rapper, and founder of Mantra Music, the world's first record label exclusively for care-experienced artists. For the latest episode of our ‘In Conversation With' series, Luke Rodgers BEM, founder of The Care Leaders, chatted to Ric to learn more about his background, his passion for music, and how he's supporting talented care-experienced young people through his work.To find out more about Ric and Mantra Music, visit the website. You can also email them directly at info@mantramusic.co.ukFollow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

When young people enter care, it can seem like the system takes a young person's identity and gives them a new one, projecting them into a confusing world with new terminologies and often leaving them with little understanding of what's happening. Systems are set up to safeguard children, which can sometimes leave families in cycles of trauma and negative family dynamics. Services become overwhelmed with the increasing numbers of young people entering care and become more stretched. Children feel confused and lost in the system; parents are hurt and often frightened, whilst practitioners are under pressure to ensure all young people are safe. Families deserve to be supported and children have a right to understand what's happening to them.In our latest latest episode, The Care Leaders, together with Madlug founder, Dave Linton, discuss the lived experiences of entering care and the breakdown in communications that can leave young people misunderstanding the real reason they entered care. To learn more about Entering care - The real reasons children come into care click here https://thecareleaders.com/courses/entering-care-the-real-reasons-children-enter-care/Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.

In children's social care, systems are often set up to ‘manage' the behaviour children and young people display, rather than helping us to understand the reasons behind their behaviour and what it communicates. In our latest episode, The Care Leaders, together with Madlug founder, Dave Linton, discuss supportive foster carers, recognising triggers, and the importance of trust without conditions.Follow us on: LinkedInTwitter Facebook Subscribe to our newsletter for more insights and updates from our lived experience leaders.