What is the Church To Do?

Today we have my friend Jonee Ripperger. She has quickly become a friend and ally in this work. She is a wife, artist, photographer, worship leader, animal lover, and a wonderful example of what it looks like to love your neighbor. Jonee and I have had the pleasure of doing some “Be The Bridge” work together, and it's been an honor to work with her and see her heart. Which is why I am beyond excited to have her on today! Enjoy as Jonee shares what she's learned through Be The Bridge, the impact its had on her life, and what she wants others to know. 1. The church must acknowledge that racism exists. 2. We must admit that we have been implicit. 3. We must Lament. 4. We must educate through multiple resources.  Spotlight I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781524760854 Be the Bridge: Pursuing God's Heart for Racial Reconciliation by Latasha Morrison https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9780525652885 Unlocking Us Podcast Hosted by Brené Brown https://brenebrown.com/unlockingus/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Melissa and I sit down to have a follow up conversation from our podcast a few weeks ago. We hit on quite a few topics, but we're offering a book club with the book "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo. If you're interested in participating in a 12 week reading of the book. Email me at whatisthechurchtodo@gmail.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Today we have Amy Duesing. Amy is a wife, mom, advocate, ally, educator and that's just a few of the things. Listen in as we hear about how journey towards becoming anti-racist. What she's learned and how she got here. Enjoy! Spotlight “Always with Us?: What Jesus Really Said about the Poor” by Reverend Liz Theoharis Foreword by William Barber https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780802875020 Lead Stories Podcast with Jo Saxton and Pastor Steph O'Brien https://leadstoriespodcast.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Today we have Barbie Fischer. She is someone I've admired for years. We met 20 years ago in a youth group and I've admired her from afar since then. She has worked with countless non-profits always with the goal of seeking justice, peace building, and directing communities to focus towards oppression and overcoming it. I'm a fan of having people that are well versed in both social and Biblical justice, and this one takes the cake! Love you girl so great to have you on. She also the executive director at Restorative Encounter https://www.restorativeencounters.org/ Spotlight The Awe and the Awful: Poetry Compilation by Charles Lattimore Howard https://www.amazon.com/Awe-Awful-Poetry-Compilation/dp/1482763842/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544037595&sr=8-1&keywords=charles+lattimore+howard+the+awe Solidarity and Defiant Spirituality: Africana Lessons on Religion, Racism, and Ending Gender Violence by Traci C. West https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781479833993 A Garden of Black Joy: Global Poetry from the Edges of Liberation and Living by Keno Evol https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9781634893107 So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781580058827 Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor by Layla Saad https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781728209807 The Source of Self-Regard: Selected Essays, Speeches, and Meditations by Toni Morrison https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9780525562795 How to be Anti Racist by Ibram X. Kendi https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780525509288 Quotes "Justice is Healing" Barbie Fischer "Church is a place that doesn't welcome questions or those hurting" Barbie Fischer If you would like to support this podcast, you can become a sponsor on Anchor. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Melissa Licali is many things! Shes a mother, grandmother, advocate and an ally among many things. Listen in as we chat about the book "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo, among many other topics. Melissa grew up in a Louisiana, is a passionate about racial reconciliation, and advocating for the oppressed. Spotlight "What Fragility" Robin DiAngelo https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780807047415 "How to be an Anti Racist" - Kendi X Ibram https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9780525509288 "The Danger of a Single Story" - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie https://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_ngozi_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story "Between the world and Me" -TaNehisi Coates https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780812993547 "The Cross And The Lynching Tree" - James H. Cone https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781626980051 "The Big Leap" - Gay Hendricks https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780061735363 The episode is sponsored by Anchor, become a sponsor at --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

I sit down with my childhood friend Samantha Thomas to talk about her experiences, and what she sees that the church can do. Follow Samantha on Instagram @sammm1187 Spotlight Links Evolving Faith Podcast https://evolvingfaith.com/podcast People to follow on Instagram @loswhit @privtoprog @anthonygarcy @cooper0326 Books Be The Bridge -Latasha Morrison White Fragility - Robin DiAngelo United States Constitution Stamped From The Beginning - Ibram X. Kendi How to be an Antiracist - Ibram X. Kendi Youtube Channels Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man -Emmanuel Acho What is The Church to Do? -Evangelist Janay Pasha Movies Hamilton (watch with subtitles, and research) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

This episode was recorded live on Facebook. I talk about my experience in white evangelical circles over the last 20 years. Things I've learned, seen, heard and how those things have impacted me. I give some ideas on how to answer the question "what is the church to do"?. Spotlight White Awake by Daniel Hill https://www.amazon.com/White-Awake-Honest-Look-Means/dp/0830843930/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=white+awake&qid=1599020483&sr=8-3 Resources Brought up during podcast Phil Vischer Video https://www.facebook.com/202984496470817/videos/2611898429058130/ https://www.facebook.com/202984496470817/videos/228979665078478 Emmanuel Acho - Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black man https://www.youtube.com/user/Eacho18 Please be sure to like, share and subscribe. If you would like to support the podcast $MrsPasha --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Mr. Demetrius Hunter is a man of many talents, husband, father, pastor, church planter, podcast host, Be The Bridge facilitator, community advocate and he has a degree in social work. It's always a privilege to sit down with a like minded soul. We discuss his experience as someone who came in Christ as a young adult, what he's learned and his opinion on ways we can do a better job of being the church Christ has called us to be. Check out his podcast "I am Justice" https://iamjustice.captivate.fm/ SPOTLIGHT I am Justice -Demetrius Hunter https://iamjustice.captivate.fm/ Be the Bridge - Latasha Morrison https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/be-the-bridge-podcast-with-latasha-morrison/id1497999509 Support the podcast via cashapp $MrsPasha --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

I got to interview Jon Polk. As many White Americans do, he grew up pretty unaware of his whiteness. During this interview we talk about, how it came to recognize his biases, some of his personal experiences and what he believes the church can do about it. "We must decenter whiteness" - Jon Polk "We're making God in our own image, instead of us being made in His" -Jon Polk SPOTLIGHT https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/melanated-faith/id1483872645 The Third Option by Miles McPherson https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38532169-the-third-option Evangelist Janay Pasha, her husband and their 3 children live in Michigan. She has a degree in Church Planting and Evangelism, and a commitment to making the church look more like Jesus. Cash App $MrsPasha --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

I sat down with one of my dearest friends Ammi-El Rich. If I'm being honest this episode was very similar to some of the conversations I've been having recently with people of color. To say that this has been a difficult time for BIPOC would be a gross understatement. We talk about our experiences, how those things have shaped our walk with Christ and What the Church can do to stand with BIPOC, both now and in the future. Spotlight Links Podcasts 1619 https://art19.com/shows/1619 The Red Couch Podcast with Propaganda and Alma https://redcouchpodcast.podbean.com/ Revisionist History http://revisionisthistory.com/ Instagram Dope Black Social Worker https://www.instagram.com/dopeblack_socialworker/?hl=en Books One Crazy Summer by Rita Williams-Garcia https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6609764-one-crazy-summer https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16240734-p-s-be-eleven https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22836574-gone-crazy-in-alabama If you'd like to support this podcast and Evangelist Janay Pasha $MrsPasha or become a sponsor through Anchor! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

I sat down (via zoom) with my friend of over 20 years and chatted about what the church can do. As he is in an area that lacks diversity we discuss what churches like his can do to stand with the oppressed and not the oppressor. Enjoy!! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

This has been one of my favorite episodes to record. Tiffany Thorpe is many things, but I'm beyond grateful to call her my friend. Listen in as we talk about our experiences, what we've learned, and what we believe the Church can do to give Jesus what He paid for! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Come listen in as I have a conversation with someone I've known for 20 years. Such a great conversation! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Listen in as I sit down with my childhood friend Chris. We get to hear his perspective on racial injustice as someone who grew up in the our hometown of Flint MI. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

Listen in as I talk with my friend Brooke Collins, about What the Church can do about racial injustice! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

I sit down with my college friend Pastor Reggie Lenzy. We talk about what the church needs to do to give Jesus what He paid for on the cross! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support

On this episode I sit down with my first guest, my brother and friend Jon-Michael Martin. Listen in as we talk about how the church can start to address injustice! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support