The race and appearance of Jesus
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Pastor Angela Denker lives with her husband, Ben, and two sons in Minneapolis, where she is a sought-after speaker on Christian Nationalism and its theological and cultural roots. She also serves Lake Nokomis Lutheran Church in Minneapolis as Pastor of Visitation and Public Theology. We have a great conversation about her work and books, especially her latest book Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood. Angela is easy to talk to and had a lot of questions of her own. Here is a link to her Substack. Like and share this episode on Social media and to your friends. Follow the podcast on Facebook; Instagram and the Blog and if you want, write your thoughts and comments in the comment section under the episode on these platforms.
Reality and Faith Prompts1. What are the formations or structures for how you know you are in reality in regards to your faith? Do you have indicators? Internal senses? External resources? 2. Who are you in active dialogue with in regards to your faith? Who that is living and who that is passed on? 3. When you encounter dissonance with your reality of faith, how do you stay grounded in your experience?TranscriptsDanielle (00:00):To my computer. So thank you Starlet. Thank you Tamis for being with me. I've given already full introductions. I've recorded those separately. So the theme of the conversation and kind of what we're getting into on this podcast this season is I had this vision for talking about the themes have been race, faith, culture, church in the past on my podcast. But what I really think the question is, where is our reality and where are our touchpoints in those different realms? And so today there's going to be more info on this in the future, but where do we find reality and how do we form our reality when we integrate faith? So one of the questions I was asking Tamis and Starlet was what are the formations or structures for how you know are in reality in regards to your faith? Do you have indicators? Do you have internal senses? Do you have external resources? And so that's where I want to jump off from and it's free flow. I don't do a whole lot of editing, but yeah, just curious where your mind goes when you hear that, what comes to mind and we'll jump from there.Starlette (01:12):I immediately thought of baptism, baptismal waters. My baptismal identity forms and shapes me. It keeps me in touch with my body. It keeps me from being disembodied. Also, it keeps me from being swindled out of authority over my body due to the dangerous irrationalism of white body supremacy. So that's one thing. Protest also keeps me grounded. I have found that acts of defiance, minor personal rebellions, they do well for me. They keep me spiritually that I feel like it keeps me in step with Jesus. And I always feel like I'm catching up that I'm almost stepping on his feet. So for me, baptismal identity and protesting, those are the two things come to me immediately.Tamice (02:04):Whoa, that's so deep. Wow, I never thought about that. But I never thought about protests being a thing that groundsBecause I mean I've just been, for me I would say I've been working on the right so, and y'all know me, so I got acronyms for days. But I mean I think that the radical ethical spirituality that's tethered to my tradition, that's a rule of life, but it's also a litmus test. So for me, if you can't tell the truth, we don't have conversations about non-violence and loving enemies. I don't get to ethical spirituality unless you come through the front door of truth telling and truth telling in that sense of the r. And the rest arrest mix tape is radical. Angela Davis says radical and that's grasping stuff at the root. So before we have conversations about forgiveness for instance, or Jesus or scripture or what is right and what is moral, it's very important that we first tell the truth about the foundations of those realities and what we even mean by those terms and whose those terms serve and where they come from. I talk about it asking to see the manager. We need see the manager(03:24):Me that grounds me is now if something comes in and it calls me to move in a different way or corrects me or checks me in a certain way, I say yes to it if it comes through the door of truth telling because it means I also got to be true and tell the truth to myself. So that keeps me grounded. That kind of acronym is kind of how I move, but it's also how I keep toxic ways of doing religion out. And I also have come back into relationship with trees and grass and the waters and that's been really powerful for moving down into different types of intelligence. For me, the earth has been pulling me into a different way of knowing and being in that part brings me to ancestors. Just like you starlet my ancestors, I keep finding them in the trees and in the water and in the wind. So it's like, well I need them real bad right now. So that's where I'm kind of grounding myself these days.But to your point about grounding and protest, I feel most compelled to show up in spaces where the ground is crying out screaming. I feel like it beckons me there. And we talked about the most recent news of Trey being found and you talked about truth telling and what resonated immediately. And it didn't sit right with me that African-American people, people of African descent know not to take their lives in that way because of the traumatic history that when you say things like you don't suspect any foul play, it sounds like what has historically been named as at the hands of persons unknown where that no one is held responsible for the death of African-American people. That's what ties it in for me. And I feel like it's an ancestral pool that they didn't leave this way, they didn't leave in the way that they were supposed to, that something stinks and that they're crying out to say, can you hear me? Come over here Terry a while here. Don't leave him here. Don't let up on it because we didn't call him here somebody. So I love that you said that you are, feel yourself being grounded in and call back to the earth because I do feel like it speaks to us,But there are telltale signs in it and that the trees will tell us too. And so I didn't have a hand in this. It was forced on me and I saw it all come and talk to me. Put your hand here, put your head here and you can hear me scream and then you can hear me scream, you can hear him scream. He was calling out the whole time. That's what I believe in. That's how I test reality. I tested against what the earth is saying like you said, but I think we have to walk the ground a bit. We have to pace the ground a bit. We can't just go off of what people are saying. Back to your point about truth telling, don't trust nobody I don't trust. I don't trust anybody that's going to stop because you can't fix a lie. So if you're going to come in with deception, there's not much else I can do with you. There's not much I can say to you. And I find that white body supremacy is a supreme deception. So if we can't start there in a conversation, there's nothing that I can say to youTamice (06:46):That's facts. It's interesting that you talked about baptism, you talked about grounding and I had this story pop up and while you were talking again it popped up again. So I'm going to tell it. So we are not going to talk about who and all the things that happened recently, but I had made some comments online around that and around just the choice to be blind. So I've been talking a lot about John nine and this passage where it is very clear to everyone else what's happening, but the people who refuse to see, refuse to see.So in that, I was kind of pulled into that. I was in Mississippi, I was doing some stuff for the book and this lady, a chaplain, her name is Sally Bevin, actually Sally Bevel, she walked up to me, she kept calling me, she was like, Tam me, she want to come. I have my whole family there. We were at the Mississippi Book Fair and she kept saying, Tam me, she want to come join, dah, dah, dah. Then my family walked off and they started to peruse and then she asked me again and I was like, no, I'm good. And I was screaming. I mean I'm looking in the screen and the third time she did it, it pulled me out and I was like, this woman is trying to pull me into being present. And she said to me, this is funny, starlet. I said, I feel like I need to be washed and I need a baptism because this phone feels like so on right now and the wickedness is pulling me. So she poured, she got some ice, cold water, it was 95 degrees, poured cold water on my hands, had me wash my hands and she took the cold water. She put a cross on my forehead. And you know what she said to me? She said, remember your baptism?She said, remember your baptism? And when I was baptized, even though it was by a man who will not also be named, when I was baptized the wind, there was a whirlwind at my baptism. It was in 2004, that same wind hit in Mississippi and then I felt like I was supposed to take my shoes off. So I walked around the Mississippi Festival with no shoes on, not knowing that the earth was about to receive two people who did not deserve to be hung from trees. And there's something very, I feel real talk, I feel afraid for white supremacy right now in the name of my ancestors and I feel like I'm calling on everything right now. And that's also grounding me.Starlette (09:36):I was with Mother Moses last week. I went to Dorchester County just to be with her because the people were here. Take me. I said, I'll leave them all here. I know you said there are a few here, but give me the names, give me the last names of the people because I don't have time for this. I see why she left people. I see why she was packing. So to your point, I think it's important that we talk to the ancestors faithfully, religiously. We sit down at their feet and listen for a bit about how they got over and how they got through it and let them bear witness to us. And she does it for me every time, every single time she grounds, she grounds meDanielle (10:23):Listening to you all. I was like, oh wait. It is like Luke 19 where Jesus is coming in on the show and he didn't ride in on the fanciest plane on a donkey. And if you're familiar with that culture that is not the most elevated animal, not the elevated animal to ride, it's not the elevated animal. You don't eat it. Not saying that it isn't eaten at times, but it's not right. So he rides in on that and then people are saying glory to God in the highest and they're praising him and the Pharisees are like, don't do that because it's shameful and I don't remember the exact words, but he's basically be quiet. The rocks are going to tell the story of what happened here. He's walking his way. It kind of reminds me to me. So what you're saying, he's walking away, he's going to walk and he's going to walk that way and he's going to walk to his death. He's walking it in two scenarios that Jesus goes in to talk about. Your eyes are going to be blind to peace, to the real way to peace. It's going to be a wall put around you and you're going to miss out. People are going to destroy you because you missed your chance.Starlette (11:50):Point again creation. And if you're going to be a rock headed people, then I'll recruit this rock choir. They get ready to rock out on you. If there's nothing you're going to say. So even then he says that creation will bear witness against you. You ain't got to do it. You ain't got to do it. I can call these rock. You can be rock headed if you want to. You can be stony hearted if you want to. I can recruit choir members from the ground,Tamice (12:16):But not even that because y'all know I'm into the quantum and metaphysics. Not even that they actually do speak of course, like words are frequencies. So when you hold a certain type of element in your hand, that thing has a frequency to it. That's alright that they said whatever, I don't need it from you. Everything else is tapped into this.Starlette (12:39):Right. In fact, it's the rocks are tapped into a reality. The same reality that me and this donkey and these people throwing stuff at my feet are tapped into.You are not tapped into reality. And so that's why he makes the left and not the right because typically when a person is coming to Saka city, they head towards the temple. He went the other direction because he is like it was a big fuck. I don't use power like this. And actually what I'm about to do is raise you on power. This is a whole different type of power. And that's what I feel like our ancestors, the realities that the alternative intelligence in the world you're talking about ai, the alternative intelligence in the world is what gives me every bit of confidence to look this beast in the face and call it what it is. This isTamice (13:52):And not going to bow to it. And I will go down proclaiming it what it is. I will not call wickedness good.And Jesus said, Jesus was so when he talks about the kingdom of heaven suffering violence and the violence taken it by force, it's that it's like there's something so much more violent about being right and righteous. Y'all have to use violence because you can't tell the truth.Danielle (14:29):Do you see the split two? There's two entirely different realities happening. Two different kingdoms, two entirely different ways of living in this era and they're using quote J, but it's not the same person. It can't be, you cannot mix white Jesus and brown Jesus. They don't go together. TheyStarlette (15:00):Don't, what is it? Michael O. Emerson and Glenn e Bracy. The second they have this new book called The Religion of Whiteness, and they talk about the fact that European Americans who are racialized as white Tahi says those who believe they are white. He says that there's a group of people, the European Americans who are racialized as white, who turn to scripture to enforce their supremacy. And then there's another group of people who turn to scripture to support and affirm our sibling.It is two different kingdoms. It's funny, it came to me the other day because we talk about, I've talked about how for whiteness, the perception of goodness is more important than the possession of it.You know what I mean? So mostly what they do is seek to be absolved. Right? So it's just, and usually with the being absolved means I'm less bad than that, so make that thing more bad than me and it's a really terrible way to live a life, but it is how whiteness functions, and I'm thinking about this in the context of all that is happening in the world because it's like you cannot be good and racist period. And that's as clear as you cannot love God and mammon you will end up hating one and loving the other. You cannot love God. You cannotStarlette (16:29):Love God and hate your next of kin your sibling. Dr. Angela Parker says something really important During the Wild Goose Festival, she asked the participants there predominantly European American people, those racialized as white. She said, do you all Terry, do you Terry, do you wait for the Holy Spirit? Do you sit with yourself and wait for God to move? And it talked, it spoke to me about power dynamic. Do you feel like God is doing the moving and you wait for the spirit to anoint you, to fill you, to inspire you, to baptize you with fire? You Terry, do you wait a while or do you just the other end of that that she doesn't say, do you just get up? I gave my life to Jesus and it's done right handed fellowship, give me my certificate and walk out the door. You have to sit with yourself and I don't know what your tradition is.I was raised Pentecostal holiness and I had to tear all night long. I was on my knees calling on the name of Jesus and I swear that Baba couldn't hear me. Which octave do you want me to go in? I lost my voice. You know them people, them mothers circled me with a sheet and told me I didn't get it that night that I had to come back the next day after I sweat out my down, I sweat out my press. Okay. I pressed my way trying to get to that man and they told me he didn't hear me. He not coming to get you today. I don't hear a change. They were looking for an evidence of tongues. They didn't hear an evidence, a change speech. You still sound the way that you did when you came in here. And I think that white body supremacy, that's where the problem lies with me. There's no difference. I don't hear a change in speech. You're still talking to people as if you can look down your nose with them. You have not been submerged in the water. You did not go down in the water. White supremacy, white body supremacy has not been drowned out.Terry, you need to Terry A. Little while longer. I'll let you know when you've gotten free. When you've been lifted, there's a cloud of witnesses. Those mothers rubbing your back, snapping your back and saying, call on him. Call him like you want him. Call him like you need him and they'll tell you when they see evidence, they'll let you, you know when you've been tied up, tangled up. That's what we would say. Wrapped up in Jesus and I had to come back a second night and call on the Lord and then they waited a while. They looked, they said, don't touch her, leave her alone. He got her now, leave her alone. But there was an affirmation, there was a process. You couldn't just get up there and confess these ABCs and salvation, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Why do you think they'll let you know when you got it?Danielle (18:56):Why do you think that happened? Why? I have a question for You'all. Why do you think that became the reality of the prayer in that moment? And we're talking about Africans that have been brought here and enslaved. Why do you think that happened on our soil that way? Why question?Tamice (19:12):I mean I'm wondering about it because when stylists talk and I keep thinking the Terry in and of itself is a refusal. It says what I see is not real. What's in front of me is not right. I'm going to wait for something else.I'm saying, the slave Bible, them taking stuff out of the Bible and it's like, but I feel like the ground, there was something about the ground that indigenous people, that indigenous people were able to help them tap into over here. It was waiting on that.Starlette (19:49):We didn't have punishment. We had a percussion session. So they ring shouted me. I didn't know what it was at the time. We didn't have all the fancy stuff. Everybody had put me in key. We didn't have, we had this and feet them people circled around me. We don't do that no more.Danielle (20:06):We don't do that no more. But don't you think if you're a person that is, and I believe Africans came here with faith already. Oh yes, there's evidence of that. So put that aside, but don't you think then even if you have that faith and it's not so different than our time and you're confronted with slave owners and plantation owners also preaching quote the same faith that you're going to have to test it out on your neighbor when they're getting saved. You're going to have to make sure they didn't catch that bug.Don't you think there's something in there? Block it. Don't you think if you know faith internally already like we do and run into someone that's white that's preaching the same thing, we have to wait it out with them. Don't you think our ancestors knew that when they were here they were waiting it out. I just noticed my spirit match that spirit. We have to wait it out. Yes, because and let's say they didn't know Jesus. Some people didn't know Jesus and they met Jesus here for whatever reason, and your example is still the white man. You have to wait it out to make sure you're not reflecting that evilness. I mean that's what I'm thinking. That's it's the absolutelyStarlette (21:20):Truth. There's a book titled Slave Testimony, and I know this because I just read about it. There's a testimony of an enslaved African-American, he's unnamed. It was written on June 26th, 1821. He's talking to Master John. He said, I want permission to speak to you if you please. He talked about, he said, where is it? Where is it? A few words. I hope that you will not think Me too bull. Sir, I make my wants known to you because you are, I believe the oldest and most experienced that I know of. He says in the first place, I want you to tell me the reason why you always preach to the white folks and keep your back to us is because they sit up on the hill. We have no chance among them there. We must be forgotten because we are near enough. We are not near enough without getting in the edge of the swamp behind you. He was calling him to account. He said, when you sell me, do you make sure that I'm sold to a Christian or heathen?He said, we are charged with inattention because of where their position. He said it's impossible for us to pay good attention with this chance. In fact, some of us scarce think that we are preached to it all. He says, money appears to be the object. We are carried to market and sold to the highest bidder. Never once inquired whether you sold to a heathen or a Christian. If the question was put, did you sell to a Christian, what would the answer be? I can tell you, I can tell what he was, gave me my price. That's all I was interested in. So I don't want people to believe that Africans who were enslaved did not talk back, did not speak back. They took him to task. He said, everybody's not literate. There's about one in 50 people who are, and I'm one of them and I may not be able to speak very well, but this is what I want to tell you. I can tell the difference. I know that you're not preaching to me the same. I know that when you talk about salvation, you're not extending it to me.Yikes. You need to know that our people, these ancestors, not only were they having come to Jesus meetings, but they were having come to your senses, meeting with their oppressor and they wrote it down. They wrote it down. I get sick of the narratives that we are not our answer. Yes we are. Yes I am. I'm here because of them. I think they called me. I think they call me here. I think the fussing that I make, the anger that I possess this need to resist every damn thing. I think they make me do thatTamice (23:35):Indeed, I think. But I didn't get my voice until they took the MLE off, had an honor with my ancestors and they came and they told me it's time. Take that mle off, MLE off. Shoot. Why Jesus ain't tell me to take no muzzle off. I'm going to tell you that now.Danielle (23:52):That's why I mean many indigenous people said, Jesus didn't come back for me because if that guy's bringing me Jesus, then now Jesus didn't come back for me.Starlette (24:07):Come on.Make it plain. Danielle, go ahead. Go ahead. Walk heavy today. Yeah, I meanDanielle (24:17):I like this conversation. Why Jesus, why Jesus didn't come back for us, the three of us. He didn't come back for us. It didn't come back from kids. He didn't come back for my husband. Nope. And so then therefore that we're not going to find a freedom through that. No, that's no desire to be in that.Tamice (24:33):None. And that's what I mean and making it very, very plain to people like, listen, I actually don't want to be in heaven with your Jesus heaven. With your Jesus would be hell. I actually have one,Starlette (24:47):The one that they had for us, they had an N word heaven for us where they would continue to be served and they wrote it down. It's bad for people who are blio foes who like to read those testimonies. It is bad for people who like to read white body supremacy For Phil. Yeah, they had one for us. They had separate creation narratives known as polygenetic, but they also had separate alon whereby they thought that there was a white heaven and an inward heaven.I didn't even know that. Starla, I didn't even know that because they said they want to make sure their favorite slave was there to serve them. Oh yes, the delusion. People tell me that they're white. I really do push back for a reason. What do you mean by that? I disagree with all of it. What part of it do you find agreeable? The relationship of ruling that you maintain over me? The privilege. White power. Which part of it? Which part of it is good for you and for me? How does it help us maintain relationship as Christians?Danielle (25:47):I think that's the reality and the dissonance we live in. Right?Starlette (25:51):That's it. But I think there needs to be a separation.Are you a white supremacist or not?Tamice (26:03):That's what I'm saying. That's why I keep saying, listen, at this point, you can't be good and racist. Let me just say that. Oh no, you got to pickStarlette (26:12):And I need to hear itTamice (26:13):Both. Yeah. I need you to public confession of it.Starlette (26:19):Someone sent me a dm. I just want to thank you for your work and I completely agree. I quickly turned back around. I said, say it publicly. Get out of my dms. Say it publicly. Put it on your page. Don't congratulate me. Within two minutes or so. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to disturb you. You are right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Did he post anything? No. Say it publicly. Denounce them. Come out from among them.Very, very plain. As a white supremacist or na, as a kid, as children. HowDanielle (26:56):Hard is it? I think that's what made this moment so real and it's a kind of a reality. Fresher actually for everybody to be honest, because it's a reality. All certain things have been said. All manner of things have been said by people. This is just one example of many people that have said these things. Not the only person that's lived and died and said these things. And then when you say, Hey, this was said, someone's like, they didn't say that. You're like, no, some people put all their content on the internet receipts. They did it themselves. That's not true. And I went to a prayer vigil. I didn't go. I sat outside a prayer vigil this weekend and I listened in and they were praying for the resurrection like Jesus of certain people that have passed on. I kid you, I sat there in the car with a friend of mine and then my youngest daughter had come with me just to hang out. She's like, what are they praying for? I was like, they're like, they were praying for a certain person to be resurrected from the dead just like Jesus. And I was so confused. I'm so confused how we got that far, honestly. But I told my kid, I said, this is a moment of reality for you. This is a moment to know. People think like this.Starlette (28:13):Also, white bodyDanielle (28:14):Supremacy is heresy. Yes. It's not even related to the Bible. Not at all.Why I steal away. This is why even the mistranslated Bible, even the Bible that you could take,Starlette (28:33):ThisThe version Danielle started. If you wouldn't have said that, I wouldn't have said that. This is exactly why I steal away. This is exactly why I leave. Because you can't argue with people like that. Now we're resurrected. IAll I need, it's like away. This is exactly why, because I can't hear what Howard Thurman calls the sound of the genuine in that. It's just not going to happen.Danielle (29:01):Can you imagine what would've happened if we would've prayed for George Floyd to be resurrected? Listen, what would've happenedStarlette (29:08):That he called the scumbag.Danielle (29:10):Yeah, but what would've happened if we would've played for their resurrection? Adam, Adam Polito. ThatStarlette (29:19):Was foundTamice (29:19):Psychosis.Starlette (29:21):Yeah. What would've happened? See, don't push me now. I feel like I need to pack. As soon as I said fill away, it's like people keep saying, what are you going to do if gets worse? I'm going to leave my, I'll sell all this crapAbout this stuff. This booby trap of capitalism. I'll it all don't about none of it. What matters most to me is my sense of ness. And when you get to talking, I almost said talking out the side of your neck. Jesus God, today, lemme God Jesus of your neck. You just need to know that's a cultural thing. That's going to have to be reevaluated. God. It just came right on out. Oh Lord. When you start saying things that go against my sense of ness that you think that I have to defend my personhood, that you want to tell me that I don't exist as a person. I don't exist as a human. Back to your reality testament. It's time for me to leave. I'm not staying here and fighting a race war or a civil war. You mamas are just violent. It's what you've always been.Tamice (30:28):Why would I stand in the middle? Why would I stand in the middle of what I know is a confrontation with yourself?Starlette (30:36):Oh, okay. Alright. I'm going to justTamice (30:38):You all. What happened last week is it, it is a confrontation with a really disturbed self and they're trying to flip it. Oh yes. They're trying to make it. Yes. But this is like, I'm trying to tell people out here, this is beyond you, Jack, that was a prophetic witness against you because now you see that what you're fighting is the mirror. Keep me out of it. I won't fight your wars. Keep me out of it. Look, James Baldwin said, y'all have to decide and figure out why you needed a nigger in the first place.I'm not a nigger. I'm a man. But you, the white people need to figure out why you created the nigger in the first place. Fuck, this is not my problem. This is a y'all and I don't have anything invested in this. All I'm trying to do is raise my kids, man. Come on. Get out of here with that. I'm sorry.Danielle (31:48):No, you keep going and then go back to starlet. Why do you think then they made her Terry? They had to make sure she doesn't buy into that. That's my opinion.Tamice (32:00):It's funny too because I see, I mean, I wasn't Pentecostal. I feel like who's coming to mind as soon as you said that de y'all know I'm hip hop. Right? So KRS one.Starlette (32:12):Yes. Consciousness.Tamice (32:14):The mind. Oh yes, the mind, the imagination. He was, I mean from day one, trying to embed that in the youth. Like, Hey, the battlefield is the mind. Are you going to internalize this bullshit?Are you going to let them name you?Starlette (32:34):This is the word.Tamice (32:34):Are you going to let them tell you what is real for the people of God? That's That's what I'm saying, man. Hip hop, hip hop's, refusal has been refusal from day one. That's why I trust it.Because in seen it, it came from the bottom of this place. It's from the bottom of your shoe. It tells the truth about all of this. So when I listen to hip hop, I know I'm getting the truth.Starlette (32:57):Yeah. EnemyObjection. What did public enemy say? Can't trust it. Can't trust it. No, no, no, no. You got to play it back. We got to run all that back.Danielle (33:11):I just think how it's so weaponized, the dirt, the bottom of the shoe, all of that stuff. But that's where we actually, that's what got it. Our bodies hitting the road, hitting the pavement, hitting the grass, hitting the dirt. That's how we know we're in reality because we've been forced to in many ways and have a mindset that we are familiar with despite socioeconomic changes. We're familiar with that bottom place.Tamice (33:38):Yeah. I mean, bottom place is where God is at. That's what y'all don't understand. God comes from black, dark dirt, like God is coming from darkness and hiddenness and mystery. You don't love darkness. You don't love GodStarlette (33:56):Talk. Now this bottom place is not to be confused with the sunken place that some of y'all are in. I just want to be clear. I just want to be clear and I'm not coming to get you. Fall was the wrong day. TodayI think it's good though because there's so much intimidation in other communities at times. I'm not saying there's not through the lynchings, ongoing lynchings and violence too and the threats against colleges. But it's good for us to be reminded of our different cultural perspectives and hear people talk with power. Why do you think Martin Luther King and Cesar Chavez wrote letters to each other? They knew something about that and knew something about it. They knew something about it. They knew something about why it's important to maintain the bonds. Why we're different, why we're similar. They knew something about it. So I see it as a benefit and a growth in our reality. That is actually what threatens that, that relationship, that bond, that connection, that speaking life into one another. That's what threatens that kingdom that you're talking about. Yeah.You just can't fake an encounter either.When I was tear, no matter what I've decolonized and divested from and decentered, I cannot deny that experience. I know that God was present. I know that God touched me. So when mother even made sister, even made, my grandmother would call me when I was in college, first person to go to college. In our family, she would say before she asked about classes or anything else, and she really didn't know what to ask. She only had a sixth grade education. But her first question was always you yet holding on?Right. She holding on. And I said, yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. Then she would, because it didn't matter if you couldn't keep the faith. There really wasn't nothing else for her to talk to you about. She was going to get ready to evangelize and get you back because you backslid. But that was her first thing. But what I've learned since then is that I can let go.The amazing thing is that the spirit is guiding me. I didn't let go all together. You got it. You got it. If it's real, if you're real, prove it. Demonstrate it. I'm getting chills now talk to me without me saying anything, touch me. I shouldn't have to do anything. Eugene Peterson says that prayer is answering speech. In fact, the only reason why I'm praying is because you said something to me first. It's not really on me to do anything. Even with the tear. I was already touched. I was already called. The reason why I was on my knees and pleading is because I'd already been compelled. Something had had already touched me. FirstThey called Holy Spirit. The hound of heaven. Damn right was already on my heels. I was already filled before I could even refuse. I was like, I don't want this. I'm going to always be star Jonah, get your people. I prefer fish guts. Throw me overboard. I don't like these people. Certified prophet because I don't want to do it. I never want to do it. I'm not interested at all. I have no too much history. I've had to deal with too much white body supremacy and prejudice and racism to want anything to do with the church. I see it for what? It's I'll never join one. By the way, are we recording? Is it on? I'm never joining a church ever. Until you all desegregate.You desegregate. Then we can talk about your ministry of reconciliation. Until then, you don't have one. Don't talk to me about a community day or a pulpit swap. I don't want to hear it. All Your praise. What did he say? A clinging, stumble, put away from me. Your conferences, all your multiracial. I don't want to hear none of it. Desegregate that part desegregate you, hypocrites, woe unto all of you white supremacists. If nobody ever told you that's not God. It's not of God. So I don't, for me, my reality is so above me, I know that Paul, because when I don't want to say anything, somebody is in my ear. Somebody was talking to me this morning. Somebody was writing a note in my ear. I had to get up. I said, please. I'm like, now I'm not even awake all the way. Stop talking to me. You can't fake that as much as I push against the Holy Spirit. You can't fake that. I don't want to do it. I don't want to say it. I'm of saying it. And yet I get up in the morning and it's like, say this, that post that. Write that. Somebody else is doing that. That's not me.As the mothers say, my flesh is weak. My flesh is not willing at all. I want to, all of y'all can go on. I'll pack this up and move somewhere else. Let them fight it to the death. I'm not going to, this is just my flesh speaking. Forgive me. Okay. This Raceless gospel is a calling friends. It's a calling. It's a calling, which means you coming into it. I'm an itinerant prophet. I'm heavy into the Hebrew scriptures. I come up with every excuse. My throat hurts. I got a speech impediment. The people don't like me. I'm not educated. It don't work. You need to know when people come to you and say, y'all need to get together, God speaking to you, the Pendo is coming. That's not like an invitation. That's kind of like a threat whether you want it or not. You're getting together.Everybody up. There's a meal ready, there's a banquet that is set and the food is getting cold and you are the reason why the drinks are watered down. That's go. You don't hear me calling you. ComeWhat I keep hearing. You have to know that God is speaking to people and saying that there's an invitation coming and you better get right. You better get washed up. Tam me said, you better let somebody pour that water over your hands. You better get washed up and get ready for dinner. I'm calling you. Come on in this house. Come on in this house. And this house is for everybody. Martin Luther King called it the world house. Everybody's coming in and you ain't got to like it doesn't matter. Get somewhere and sit down. That's that old church mother coming out of me and lemme just confess. I didn't even want to be on here this morning. I told God I didn't feel like talking. I told the Lord and you see what happened.Promise you. I'm a child. I'm full of disobedience.I was not in the mood. I said, I don't want to talk to nobody. I'm an introvert. I don't want to deal with none of this. Get somebody else to do it and look at it.Tamice (40:39):Yeah. It's funny because I woke up this morning, I was like, I'm not, I forgot. And then after all of the news today, I was like, I just don't have it in you, but this is, wait a minute. And it was three minutes past the time. Come on. And I was like, oh, well shoot. The house is empty. Nobody's here right now. I was like, well, lemme just log on. So this is definitely, it feels like definitely our calling do feel. I feel that way. I don't have time to bullshitSo I can't get out of it. I can't go to bed. I might as well say something. It won't let me go. I cannot do deceit. I can't do it. I can't sit idly by while people lie on God. I can't do that. I can't do it. It won't let up. And I'm trying to get in my body, get in this grass and get a little space. But I'm telling you, it won't let me go. And I feel it's important, Dee, you can't stop doing what you're doing. That's right. I mean is this thing of it is beyond me. It is living out of me. It's coming through me. And there has to be a reason for this. There's got to be a reason for this. And I don't know what it is because I know my eschatology is different, but I feel like, buddy, we got to manifest this kingdom. We have to manifest it until it pushes all that shit back. Come on. I'm telling you. Till it scurries it away or renders it and null and void, I'm talking. I mean, I want the type of light and glory on my being. That wicked logic disintegrate, wicked people drop dead. I mean that just in the Bible. In the Bible where Hert falls, headlong and worms eat em. Y'all celebrate that. Why can't I think about that? It's in your scriptures or daykin and the thing breaks and the legs of this false God break. I want that. I'm here for that. I'm going after that.Danielle (43:14):You think that this is what the definition of Terry is? That we're all Terry serious. I'm rocking the whole time. I'm serious. Right. That's what I told my kids. I said, in one sense, this is a one person of many that thinks this way. So we can't devote all our conversation in our house to this man. And I said in the other sense, because Starlet was asking me before he got here, how you doing? I said, we got up and I took calls from this person and that person and I told my kids, we're still advocating and doing what we can for the neighbors that need papers. And so we're going to continue doing that. That is the right thing to do. No matter what anybody else is doing in the world, we can do this.Tamice (43:56):Yeah, that's a good call. I mean, I'm headed to, I ain't going to say where I'm going no more, but I'm headed somewhere and going to be with people who are doing some innovation, right. Thinking how do we build a different world? How do our skillsets and passions coalesce and become something other than this? So I'm excited about that. And it's like that fire, it doesn't just drive me to want to rebuke. It does drive me to want to rebuild and rethink how we do everything. And I'm willing, I mean, I know that I don't know about y'all, but I feel like this, I'm getting out of dodge, but also I'm seeking the piece of the city. I feel both. I feel like I'm not holding hands with ridiculousness and I'm not moving in foolishness. But also I'm finna seek the piece of the city. My G I'm not running from delusion. Why would I? I'm in the truth. So I don't know how that maps onto a practical life, but we're finna figure it out. Out in it. I mean, the response of leadership to what has happened is a very clear sign where we are in terms of fascism. That's a very clear sign.What else y'all are looking for To tell you what it is.Danielle (45:36):But also we're the leaders. We are, we're the leaders. They're a leader of something, but they're not the leader of us. We're the leaders. We're the leaders. So no matter what they say, no matter what hate they spew, I really love Cesar Chavez. He's like, I still go out and feed the farm worker and I don't make them get on the boycott line because if they're pushed under the dirt, then they can't see hope. So people that have more economic power, a little more privilege than the other guy, we're the leaders. We're the ones that keep showing up in love. And love is a dangerous thing for these folks. They can't understand it. They can't grasp it. It is violent for them to feel love. Bodies actually reject it. And the more we show up, you're innovating. You're speaking Starla, you're preaching. We're the leaders. They're leaders of something. They're not leaders of us. We're leaders of freedom.Tamice (46:31):Come on now. D, we're leaders of give us thisStarlette (46:34):Bomb. We're leaders of compassion. You coming in here with the Holy Ghosts, acting like one of them church mothers. We were in the room together. She put our hand on us. YouDanielle (46:43):We're the ones that can remember Trey. We're the ones that can call for justice. We don't need them to do it. They've never done it. Right. Anyway. They have never showed up for a Mexican kid. They've never showed up for a black kid. They've never done it. Right. Anyway, we're the ones that can do it now. We have access to technology. We have access to our neighbors. We can bring a meal to a friend. We can give dollars to someone that needs gas. We're the the one doing it. We're the one that doing itTamice (47:11):Fill usDanielle (47:12):Up. They cannot take away our love.Starlette (47:15):Receive the benediction.Danielle: Yeah. They can't take it away. I'm telling you, if I saw someone shooting someone I hate, I would try to save that person. I don't own guns. I don't believe in guns, period. My family, that's my personal family's belief.And I would do that. I've thought about it many times. I thought would I do it? And I think I would because I actually believe that. I believe that people should not be shot dead. I believe that for the white kid. I believe that for the Mexican kid. I believe that for the black kid, we're the people that can show up. They're not going to come out here. They're inviting us to different kind of war. We're not in that war. That's right. We have love on our side and you cannot defeat love, kill love. You can'tTamice (48:04):Kill love and you can't kill life. That's the only reason somebody would ask you to be nonviolent. That's the only way somebody would've the audacity to ask that of you. Especially if you're oppressed. If the true is truth is that you can't kill love or life, damn man. It's hard out here for a pimp.Starlette (48:38):Really. Really? Yeah. Because what I really want to say isTamice (49:27):I can't. Your testimony a lie. No. Your testimony. That would be a lie. And like I said, truth telling is important. But there are days where I could be that I could go there, but I witnessed what happened that day. I watched the video. It's just not normal to watch that happen to anybody. And I don't care who you are. And the fact that we're there is just objectively just wow. And the fact that all of the spin and do y'all not realize what just happened? Just as a actual event. Right. What? You know, I'm saying how has this turned into diatribes? Right? We need reform. I, whichDanielle (50:29):Which, okay, so I have to cut us off. I have a client coming, but I want to hear from you, given all the nuance and complexity, how are you going to take care of your body this week or even just today? It doesn't have to be genius. Just one or two things you're going to do. Oh, I'm going toTamice (50:51):Take a nap. Yeah, you taking a nap? Y'all be so proud of me. I literally just said no to five things. I was like, I'm not coming to this. I'm not doing that. I won't be at this. I'm grieving. I'm go sit in the grass. Yeah, that's what I'm doing today. And I have stuff coming up. I'm like, Nope, I'm not available.Starlette (51:14):What about you Danielle? What are you going to do?Danielle (51:16):I'm going to eat scrambled eggs with no salt. I love that. I've grown my liver back so I have to have no salt. But I do love scrambled eggs. Scrambled eggs. That's the truth. Four. Four scrambled eggs.Starlette (51:31):And we thank you for your truth. BIO:The Reverend Dr. Starlette Thomas is a poet, practical theologian, and itinerant prophet for a coming undivided “kin-dom.” She is the director of The Raceless Gospel Initiative, named for her work and witness and an associate editor at Good Faith Media. Starlette regularly writes on the sociopolitical construct of race and its longstanding membership in the North American church. Her writings have been featured in Sojourners, Red Letter Christians, Free Black Thought, Word & Way, Plough, Baptist News Global and Nurturing Faith Journal among others. She is a frequent guest on podcasts and has her own. The Raceless Gospel podcast takes her listeners to a virtual church service where she and her guests tackle that taboo trinity— race, religion, and politics. Starlette is also an activist who bears witness against police brutality and most recently the cultural erasure of the Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington, D.C. It was erected in memory of the 2020 protests that brought the world together through this shared declaration of somebodiness after the gruesome murder of George Perry Floyd, Jr. Her act of resistance caught the attention of the Associated Press. An image of her reclaiming the rubble went viral and in May, she was featured in a CNN article.Starlette has spoken before the World Council of Churches North America and the United Methodist Church's Council of Bishops on the color- coded caste system of race and its abolition. She has also authored and presented papers to the members of the Baptist World Alliance in Zurich, Switzerland and Nassau, Bahamas to this end. She has cast a vision for the future of religion at the National Museum of African American History and Culture's “Forward Conference: Religions Envisioning Change.” Her paper was titled “Press Forward: A Raceless Gospel for Ex- Colored People Who Have Lost Faith in White Supremacy.” She has lectured at The Queen's Foundation in Birmingham, U.K. on a baptismal pedagogy for antiracist theological education, leadership and ministries. Starlette's research interests have been supported by the Louisville Institute and the Lilly Foundation. Examining the work of the Reverend Dr. Clarence Jordan, whose farm turned “demonstration plot” in Americus, Georgia refused to agree to the social arrangements of segregation because of his Christian convictions, Starlette now takes this dirt to the church. Her thesis is titled, “Afraid of Koinonia: How life on this farm reveals the fear of Christian community.” A full circle moment, she was recently invited to write the introduction to Jordan's newest collection of writings, The Inconvenient Gospel: A Southern Prophet Tackles War, Wealth, Race and Religion.Starlette is a member of the Christian Community Development Association, the Peace & Justice Studies Association, and the Koinonia Advisory Council. A womanist in ministry, she has served as a pastor as well as a denominational leader. An unrepentant academician and bibliophile, Starlette holds degrees from Buffalo State College, Colgate Rochester Crozer Divinity School and Wesley Theological Seminary. Last year, she was awarded an honorary doctorate in Sacred Theology for her work and witness as a public theologian from Wayland Baptist Theological Seminary. She is the author of "Take Me to the Water": The Raceless Gospel as Baptismal Pedagogy for a Desegregated Church and a contributing author of the book Faith Forward: A Dialogue on Children, Youth & a New Kind of Christianity. Dr. Tamice Spencer - HelmsGod is not a weapon. Authenticity is not a phase.Meet Tamice Spencer-Helms (they/she). Tamice is a nonprofit leader, scholar-practitioner, pastor, and theoactivist based in Richmond, Virginia. For decades, Tamice has been guided by a singular purpose: to confront and heal what they call “diseased imagination”—the spiritual and social dis-ease that stifles agency, creativity, and collective flourishing. As a pastor for spiritual fugitives, Tamice grounds their work at the intersection of social transformation, soulful leadership, womanist and queer liberation theologies, and cultural critique.A recognized voice in theoactivism, Tamice's work bridges the intellectual and the embodied, infusing rigorous scholarship with lived experience and spiritual practice. They hold two master's degrees (theology and leadership) and a doctorate in Social Transformation. Their frameworks, such as R.E.S.T. Mixtape and Soulful Leadership, which are research and evidence-based interventions that invite others into courageous truth-telling, radical belonging, and the kind of liberating leadership our times demand.Whether facilitating retreats, speaking from the stage, consulting for organizations, or curating digital sanctuaries, Tamice's presence is both refuge and revolution. Their commitment is to help individuals and communities heal, reimagine, and build spaces where every person is seen, known, and liberated—where diseased imagination gives way to new possibilities. 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Unpacking faith, masculinity, and hope with Rev. Angela Denker on Compass 164: Disciples of White Jesus. Dive into a candid conversation exploring how our images of Jesus, shaped by culture and media, influence everyday faith, identity, and relationships. Discover practical wisdom for nurturing authentic spirituality at home, at church, and in daily life — plus … Continue reading "[164] Moving beyond White-Guy Jesus with Angela Denker"
The Context of White Supremacy welcomes the return of Dr. Angelyn Spaulding Flowers. A professor and coordinator of the Crime, Justice, and Security Studies Program at the University of the District of Columbia, Dr. Fowler is classified as a black female. She's one of the few black researchers who's written about the US scourge of mass casualty school shootings. Dr. Flowers helped Gus and C.O.W.S. listeners establish a superb foundation for understanding school shootings in the US (and the world?). On this, her third visit, we'll discuss her 2025 publication, White Christian Nationalism in the United States: A Rising Tide Sinks All Boats - which examines the critical role of the Religion of White Supremacy to better understand the thought, speech, actions and emotions of many people classified as White. A crucial component of this bias and an indispensable component of the current White Supremacist zeitgeist is the fear of White Genetic Annihilation. White Jesus has ordained the System of White Supremacy and everything must be done to ensure White genetic survival & White domination - which may be one and the same. Dr. Flowers and Gus had a grand exchange on role of White Women in the System of White Supremacy and her supposition that black males engage in systemic oppression of black females. #WhiteJesus #INVEST in The COWS - http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: http://cash.app/$TheCOWS
In this episode we'll confront some of the most overlooked yet damaging trends in the modern church—practices and portrayals that have become weaponized traditions. From the image of “White Jesus” to the interesting practices some churches have normalized, we'll explore why it matters that churches reflect the truth and not traditions that exclude or confuse.This episode isn't about tearing the church down—it's about calling the church up. Because when traditions start to eclipse truth, it's time to rethink. Tap in for a necessary and honest conversation.Ephesians 6:5-91 Corinthians 10:32,33Deuteronomy 5:8Romans 3:23,24Galatians 2:141 Samuel 2:12-171 Corinthians 1:122 Timothy 4:2Romans 12:22 John 1:72 John 1:10
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Is your Jesus making your sons more radical—or more compassionate? In this scorching conversation, Frank Schaeffer sits down with Rev. Angela Denker to unpack her explosive new book Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood. From Lutheran pulpits to CNN, Denker has tracked how faith, fear, and masculinity are being fused in dangerous ways. This episode exposes how American Christianity is grooming boys for culture war—and what real spiritual courage looks like instead._____LINKShttps://angeladenker.substack.comhttps://www.instagram.com/denkerangela/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmKIdMPvTt9uf3tlGBLFnxQhttps://www.lovechildrenplanet.com/events/it-has-to-be-read-red-state-christians-by-rev-angela-denker_____I have had the pleasure of talking to some of the leading authors, artists, activists, and change-makers of our time on this podcast, and I want to personally thank you for subscribing, listening, and sharing 100-plus episodes over 100,000 times.Please subscribe to this Podcast, In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer, on your favorite platform, and to my Substack, It Has to Be Said. Thanks! Every subscription helps create, build, sustain and put voice to this movement for truth. Subscribe to It Has to Be Said. Support the show_____In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer is a production of the George Bailey Morality in Public Life Fellowship. It is hosted by Frank Schaeffer, author of Fall In Love, Have Children, Stay Put, Save the Planet, Be Happy. Learn more at https://www.lovechildrenplanet.comFollow Frank on Substack, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, and YouTube. https://frankschaeffer.substack.comhttps://www.facebook.com/frank.schaeffer.16https://twitter.com/Frank_Schaefferhttps://www.instagram.com/frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.threads.net/@frank_schaeffer_arthttps://www.tiktok.com/@frank_schaefferhttps://www.youtube.com/c/FrankSchaefferYouTube In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer Podcast
Angela Denker and Pat Kahnke discuss her new book "Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood". Purchase Angela Denker's books: Disciples of White Jesus: https://a.co/d/c76jyw7 Red State Christians: https://a.co/d/0elpRSo
The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly summit on Neutralizing Workplace Racism 04/17/25. A number of non-white people have shared the increased stress and constant confusion they're experiencing in the workplace. Gus suspects this is widespread and encourages non-white people to spend a bit more time preparing for increased hostilities or discourtesy from White or non-white colleagues. We'll also review a report Gus stumbled upon that suggests people classified as black are more likely to discuss their religious views in the Workplace. 1) The strongest religion in the known universe is the Religion of White Supremacy. 2) Gus does not encourage discussing religious views (or Racism) in the workplace. While Race Soldiers have a long history of grooming non-white people to worship White Jesus, fishing for prayer circles and bible studies with co-workers likely won't earn you a raise. We heard a number of non-white people report their White colleagues griping about black entertainers' alleged sexual misdeeds - like the great Sean "P Diddy" Combs and Shawn "Jay Z" Carter. #NoPoliticsOnTheJob #CounterViolence #TheCOWS16Years CALL IN NUMBER: 605.313.5164 CODE: 564943#
In this episode, Kristian and the crew discuss how so much of Fundamentalist Christianity props up the image of white Jesus. This is the symbolism European nations have leveraged to violently colonize most of the known world. Subscribe to Patreon Here: https://patreon.com/tfcvirtual Purchase full-length, uncensored episodes of the podcast here: https://patreon.com/tfcvirtual Register for DAI Fest in Atlanta Here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dai-fest-2025-registration-999357684737?aff=oddtdtcreator Get Merch here: https://thefaithcommunity.org/merch-store Order Breaking All The Rules here: https://www.kristianasmith.com/breaking-all-the-rules Video Chapters 00:00 - Intro and Highlights 02:16 - Kristian's Devil Horns 04:45 - The One Rule 05:49 - A Review of our YouTube haters 14:34 - What are you doing to care for yourself? 27:06 - “Jesus was NOT a Black Man” - Phillip Anthony Mitchell 40:52 - Weaponizing Marxism 46:52 - Evidence of Jesus' Skin Tone 55:34 - Afterlife Anxiety obstructs Pro-Blackness 58:53 - The problem with Christian Evangelism The Faith Community is a groundbreaking, inclusive faith community where the traditional meets the transformational. It exists to challenge harmful religious norms while creating a safe, affirming space for spiritual seekers of all kinds. Through virtual connection, theological interrogation, and an emphasis on love and self-acceptance, TFC helps its audience find abundant life and community without compromising their identity.
Send us a textSpecial Guest:Rev. Angela Denker, Author of Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American BoyhoodQuestion of the Week:What has caused the radicalization of white boys and white men in American society? How have some church teachings perpetuated it and how do we counteract this trend now? Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhoodangeladenker.com https://angeladenker.substack.com For Listening Guides, click here!Got a question for us? Send them to faithpodcast@pcusa.org! A Matter of Faith website
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with journalist and Lutheran minister Angela Denker about her forthcoming book Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood. You can watch a video version of this conversation here. You can also hear an earlier conversation with Denker in episode 68, and a conversation with Caleb Campbell in episode 150. Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness that helps you make sense of faith, culture, and politics. And order a copy of Baptizing America: How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism by Brian Kaylor and Beau Underwood. If you buy it directly from Chalice Press, they are offering 33% off the cover price when you use the promo code "BApodcast."
Natalia welcomes back friend of the pod friend of God Angela Denker to talk about her new book “Disciples of White Jesus: the Radicalization of American Boyhood.” This is a relevant, timely, and important book for anyone connected to young men and boys. Links for Angela: Angela's Website: https://www.angeladenker.com/ Buy Angela's Book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/disciples-of-white-jesus-the-radicalization-of-american-boyhood-angela-denker/21600261?ean=9798889830757&next=t See Angela at upcoming events: https://www.angeladenker.com/upcoming-events Angela's Substack: https://angeladenker.substack.com/ www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian
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Sailing a J40 Bermuda to St Thomas, Holiday edition Music - Rittz: White Jesus
The Context of White Supremacy hosts the final Neutralizing Workplace Racism summit of the 2024 calendar year. 2 days removed from White Jesus's birthday, we hope lots of non-white listeners got most if not the entire "holiday" week off from the plantation. Numerous employees, including Gus T., were required to punch for work while millions drank eggnog and opened gifts. We hear great illustrations of the importance of documentation. In Seattle, Dr. Benjamin Danielson won $21 million in his lawsuit against Seattle Children's Clinic - which is supposed to serve non-white and low income children and families with "dignity." Dr. Danielson described the wide spread System of White Supremacy which compromised his ability to provide care. He documented the widespread instances of abuse. We also hear from a C.O.W.S. listeners who details how his supervisor attempted to deny him a bonus by giving him an unwarranted low rating during his performance evaluation. #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 605.313.5164 CODE: 564943#
BANG! @southernvangard radio Ep423! Made you look, Vangardians! We had one more up our sleeve before 2024 was a wrap. We put a big fat red bow around our NINTH year of Southern Vangard Radio - our old friend White Jesus managed to make an appearance, we haven't seen that bubba in quite some time! January 2025 kicks off Doe and Meeks TENTH year of providing the best hip-hop mix show / podcast on the planet, and we THAAANK YAAAAA for your support this year and YOU WAAAAALCOME!!! #SmithsonianGrade #WeAreTheGard // southernvangard.com // @southernvangard on all platforms #hiphop #undergroundhiphop #boombap ------- Recorded live Dec 23, 2024 @ Dirty Blanket Studios, Marietta, GA southernvangard.com @southernvangard on all platforms #SmithsonianGrade #WeAreTheGard twitter/IG: @southernvangard @jondoeatl @cappuccinomeeks ------- Pre-Game Chrimmus Beats - Theory Hazit, Jonwayne, Amerigo Gazaway, Funky DL, Toby T., Edd Bundy "Southern Vangard Theme" - Bobby Homack & The Southern Vangard All-Stars Talk Break Inst - "Preemo Navidad" - Kev Brown "Lalala" - Redman ft. Method Man "Moon Roof" - EC FAM "Expert" - Brizz Rawsteen "Highly Favored" - Rufus Sims ft. Kapital P "The Mob" - Al Rock ft. Guilty Simpson "The Winners" - Le Zeppo x 9th Uno ft. Lord Juco "Pain" - Reks & Greve ft. DJ Klassik "Negative Vibes" - Doza The Drum Dealer & William Bostick ft. Kaeson Skrilla & D. Goynz Talk Break Inst - "Myrrh" - Kev Brown "Featured Presentation" - Jamil Honesty x Squeegie Oblong ft. DJ Jon Doe "Whut's Hot" - Redman ft. Oran Juice Jones II "Check Ya Self" - NapsNdreds (prod. Divine Drummah) "Spaghetti" - Richard Milli ft. Crimeapple "Hope You Understand" - Flee Lord & Richard Milli ft. Frank Nitty "Boom Bap Or Die" - Termanology & Tek ft. Flash Is Hip Hop (prod. Nottz) "R.R.S. (Regular Rap Shit)" - Dookie Bros "You Ain't Like That" - Frankky Smaccz x DLP Talk Break Inst - "Fun" - Kev Brown "By The Wayside" - Doza The Drum Dealer & William Bostick "Bad Man" - Fat Joe ft. Tuggawar "Fear Of God" - Pretty.Ugly ft. Asun Eastwood, Rigz & Dystrakted EuroMillions - Sonnyjim & Graymatter "No Sense To Cry" - NapsNdreds ft. Hus Kingpin (prod. Divine Drummah) "True Story" - Flee Lord & Richard Milli ft. Traffic "Flying ThunderGod Technique" - New Villain, Wyzrd & Zeus The Elevated ft. Sean Links "Brown Bag Money" - Circa 97 ft. Daniel Son, Snotty & Giallo Point Talk Break Inst. - "Give Thanks" - Kev Brown "WAM" - Mondo Slade ft. David James (prod. godBLESSbeatz) "Christmas Time Is Here" - Reggie Watts "Winter Wonderland" - Aretha Franklin
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Send us a textWith the holidays, clutter, and just the daily struggle to keep a house clean, it can feel like an added weight to practice hospitality and invite others into your home. It can also be a source of shame. Author and decluttering expert, Dana K. White discovered God's grace through the struggle of a messy home, and offers both spiritual and practical insights from her new book Jesus Doesn't Care About Your Messy House. Whether you need some inspiration to start decluttering or an extra measure of God's grace in your life, we hope you are blessed by the conversation.Support the show
The Context of White Supremacy continues our lengthy "holiday " tradition of broadcasting on White Jesus' birthday. With Gus just back from California and still in the midst of cataloging and receiving constructive material from numerous White institutions, we pause to revisit audio of Dr. Frances Cress Welsing. 3rd generation general and child psychiatrist Dr. Welsing had a signature public exchange with Stanford University's Nobel Prize winning scholar and Race Solider Dr. William Shockley - who was renown for his views on the intellectual deficits of people classified as black. Gus T. thought these two scholars had one public debate on journalist Tony Brown's platform. This is false. Dr. Welsing and Dr. Shockley had a number of exchanges, and Stanford University has Shockley's personal recordings of several of these exchanges. Gus T. was able to get digital copies of everything, and will share a teaspoon from their 1973 joust. Gus will also disclose why he is not sharing the full audio. In short, non-white people - especially those interested in counter-racism, do not associate or support Gus T. No problem. #UnitedIndependent #CosmicAssignment #WhiteGeneticAnnihilation #Snowflake #Stanford #TheCOWS16Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 605.313.5164 CODE: 564943#
The Context of White Supremacy hosts the weekly Compensatory Call-In 11/02/24. We encourage non-white listeners to dial in with their codified concepts, new terms, observations, research findings, workplace problems or triumphs, and/or suggestions on how best to Replace White Supremacy With Justice ASAP. This weekly broadcast examines current events from across the globe to learn what's happening in all areas of people activity. We cultivate Counter-Racist Media Literacy by scrutinizing journalists' word choices and using logic to deconstruct what is reported as "news." We'll use these sessions to hone our use of terms as tools to reveal truth, neutralize Racists/White people. #ANTIBLACKNESS Convicted felon and former President Donald J. Trump will be the next President of the United States.... again. Pollsters and White journalists lied to us again, suggesting there was a close contest between VP Kamala Harris and Trump. #Beatdown Trump vanquished all competitors with a lot of help from White Women. Along side the Trump reunion, a White Man attempted a White Terrorist attack in Nashville, Tennessee. 24-year old Skylar Phillipi has been publicly labeled a White Supremacist and accused of attempting to create mass destruction in the "volunteer state." Phillipi's act of domestic terrorism reminded Gus of the December 2020 attack in Nashville where a White Man, Anthony Quinn Warner, detonated an improvised explosive device days before White Jesus' birthday. This blast was near a major cell phone network and disrupted service to over 10,000 phones and occured approximately 2 weeks before the January 6th Terrorist Breach of the Capitol. Trump's "political prisoners" are eagerly awaiting pardons. #TurnerDiaries #TheCOWS15Year INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 605.313.5164 CODE: 564943#
Welcome to The Blathering on The Napzok Network. Part ramble, part rant, part joy, part anger -- the Blathering is a solo podcast from Ken Napzok. The on-air sign goes on and the show goes from there. The live episodes are recorded on Ken's YouTube, Twitch, and Facebook channels. Get Ken's Comedy Album IN MY DAY Purchase Ken's book Why We Love Stars: The Great Moments That Built A Galaxy Far, Far Away. Enjoy The Moonagers kennapzok.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-napzok-network/support
The Sunday School Dropouts are proving their dropout status today! We are talking about all things White Christian Nationalism, including the origins, impacts, and how to heal with Rev. Angela Denker. Angela is the author of “Red State Christians” and the forthcoming book “Disciples of White Jesus” where she writes about the growing phenomenon of White Christian Nationalism and its impact on a specific group of people: White men and boys. Throughout this conversation we begin to see how this extremist approach began, why it thrives and even how to navigate relationships with people in our lives who live according to those values. Andrew and Laura also discuss the term ‘gaslighting' and explain what it truly means–instead of how it's talked about on social media and in pop culture–as a way to help people better organize and name what happened to them.Join the Religious Trauma and the Elections Support Groups! Find out more and/or sign up here!Books discussed today:Angry White Men by Michael KimmelConnect with our Guest:Rev. Angela Denker @denkerangela This podcast is brought to you by the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery: an online trauma coaching company whose practitioners are trauma informed and trauma trained to work with individuals, couples and families who have experienced high control religion, cults, and religious trauma. For more information on the support that CTRR provides, for resources–including courses, workshops, and more–head to traumaresolutionandrecovery.com or follow us on Instagram: @traumaresolutionandrecovery The views and opinions expressed by Sunday School Dropouts are those of the hosts and not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery. Any of the content provided by our guests, sponsors, authors, or bloggers are their own ideas and opinions.The Sunday School Dropouts podcast is not anti-religion but it is anti -harm, -power and control, -oppression and, -abuse and will speak to the harmful practices and messaging of fundamentalist groups. Follow Andrew on Instagram and TikTok @deconstruct_everything Follow Laura on Instagram and TikTok @drlauraeanderson or on her website: www.drlauraeanderson.com Hosts: Laura Anderson and Andrew KerbsMusic by Benjamin Faye Music @heytherebenji Editing and Production by Kevin Crowe
On this payday, Amber and Erika discuss America's hijacking of Jesus and the church's complicity with inequity, exploitative capitalism, and anti-blackness. We are joined by Stephanie M. House-Niamke, a sociologist whose work centers on power, access, and choice, across the areas of race, gender, and religion. Stephanie helps us see how problematic theological frameworks like the prosperity gospel and manifest destiny have resulted in the church being an extension of many of the same exclusionary, unjust practices propagated in our broader society. We also explore whether and under what conditions the Black church can return to itself, extricating the White Supremacy that has crept into its midst. Press play to hear what we have to say!
Season four starts next week! Hear Jonathan and Sy talk about:- What to expect this year from the show during this election cycle- A reintroduction to everything KTF does, and why we do it- How we really, genuinely need your support right now, and ways you can helpCredits- Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our newsletter and bonus episodes at KTFPress.com.- Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads.- Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon.- Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify.- Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram.- Production, editing, and transcript by Sy Hoekstra.TranscriptWhat's Coming in Season Four[An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes, the first three ascending and the last three descending — F#, B, F#, E, D#, B — with a keyboard pad playing the note B in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.” After a brief pause, the intro piano music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out.]Sy Hoekstra: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice! I'm Sy HoekstraJonathan Walton: And I'm Jonathan Walton. Welcome to season 4!Sy Hoekstra: We are so excited to have you here. We're going to be doing something very special for this season during this presidential election cycleJonathan Walton: Yes, we're going back to our roots. The first thing we did with the company that makes this podcast, KTF Press, was publish an anthology in 2020 called Keeping the Faith. It had 36 authors writing political theology and personal stories to explain their opposition to Christian support for Donald Trump.Sy Hoekstra: We called it an anthology of dissent, a record of resistance toward the church's political witness in America. And our guests this season are going to be authors from that book, talking about what they wrote and how they're thinking about their faith and the political landscape now.Jonathan Walton: You've heard some of the writers from the book on this show before, like Dani Espiritu, Scott Hall, and Wissam Al-Saliby. And we're excited to bring you Dr. Randy Woodley, Brandi Miller, Mark Scandrette, Rasool Berry, and many more this season. The first episode is dropping this upcoming Friday, May 24, with Dr. Woodley.Sy Hoekstra: We've recorded some of these already, and we're really excited to get them to you in the coming months.What We Do at KTF, and WhySy Hoekstra: But before we jump into this season, we want to give you all a bit of a refresher on what exactly it is we do at KTF Press and why we do it. And the reason that we want to tell you all that is because we really need your support right now.Jonathan Walton: That's right. We do everything that we do to help people seek Jesus, confront injustice, and resist the idols of the American church that got us to the religious and political mess we're in right now. This show is all about hearing personal stories and informed discussions to help you do just that.Sy Hoekstra: And our weekly newsletter is where we curate media to help you in your discipleship and learning about politics and policy. You get commentary from us on issues important to our national discourse, and we also give you something each week to help you stay grounded and hopeful. Plus, you get news about what's going on with us at KTF, previews of this show, and a whole lot more.Jonathan Walton: We also write articles on similar subjects for our website, we have the anthology, and Tamice Spencer-Helms' incredible memoir we published last year, Faith Unleavened, about how White Jesus nearly destroyed her faith, and how she left him behind to find her way to liberation and the real Jesus.Sy Hoekstra: And we do all this with a couple things in mind. First, we always pay the most attention to marginalized voices, the people who our society oppresses and pushes to the side. We had a whole discussion on this in our very first episode, so if you want to learn more, you can always listen to that. But simply put, The opinions of people who a society favors get the most airtime, but people who a society harms and ignores actually have the clearest insight about the character of that society. And so if you want to understand the world around you better, you have to talk to marginalized people. Plus, God's ministry throughout the Bible is primarily directed toward the poor and oppressed, and his disciples primarily come from them. So you just have to train yourself to learn from people whose perspectives come from that angle on the world if you want to follow Jesus.Jonathan Walton: Another value of ours is trying to be both kind and humane toward people we disagree with, while remaining uncompromising about our own views. We believe, despite all the evidence on the internet to the contrary, that this is in fact possible [Sy chuckles]. But it requires a lot of intentional growth in the area of emotional health, so we talk a lot about that too.Sy Hoekstra: The good thing is, we've been practicing all this for a long time. We have been friends for 18 years now, talking and learning about these subjects together, and having our own sometimes very strong disagreements. We have had to learn how to talk across lines of difference with each other in real time as friends and followers of Jesus. Fortunately, we have been able to do that in communities with friends and mentors who are doing the same thing. On top of that, Jonathan has been doing justice ministry for well over a decade, and my career before this was in law and advocacy, and we want to just share all of this experience with you.We Need Your Support to Keep KTF RunningJonathan Walton: So, if all that sounds like something you can get behind, here is our ask of you. We need you to go to KTFPress.com and become a paid subscriber to our Substack. We have to get more subscribers if we're going to keep this going. So, if you can afford it, please subscribe. If you can't, just write to us at info@ktfpress.com and we'll give you a free or discounted subscription, whatever you want, no questions asked. Because we want as many people as possible to have access. But if you can, please go to KTFPress.com and sign up. On top of supporting what we do, you get access to all our many bonus episodes, and coming soon, monthly subscriber chats with me and Sy. Also, if you're already a paid subscriber, consider upgrading to our founding member tier, which will immediately get you a free book.Sy Hoekstra: We've been doing all this podcasting and writing and book publishing as a side project for a while now, and we have some incredible subscribers supporting what we do. And they are covering the costs of what it takes to produce this show, to keep the websites running, and pay a bunch of our regular business expenses. We actually would not be here without them. But we've kept those expenses very low. I don't know if you know, but we're not recording this from KTF Press Studios, right next door to NPR. This company is two people with some basic sound equipment that our subscribers paid for, and our laptops. We occasionally get help from other people with laptops. We work in whatever room is available in our homes that are full of other people. At least once, that room was my closet.Jonathan Walton: [laughs]The point is this might sometimes sound like an established operation, but it's a little scrappier than you think. And I think you would agree work like this should not be a side project.Sy Hoekstra: To be fully transparent, I cannot afford to keep doing this as a side project. Jonathan does this work around his full-time job, but if I'm going to keep putting as much time into this as I do, which is a lot, I'm going to have to stop working for free.Jonathan Walton: So here's what we're doing. We're leveling up our branding and designs. You may have seen that on our website and in our emails. We'll also be doing some advertising, and of course continuing to put our best work here. But we need you to do your part!Sy Hoekstra: Jonathan, how many paid subscribers do we have right now?Jonathan about 120.Sy Hoekstra: And how many do we want to have by the end of this year?Jonathan Walton: One thousand! [laughs]Sy Hoekstra: So we have just a few more to go. Please, please go to KTFPress.com and sign up. Don't wait.Jonathan Walton: And there are a few free things you can do apart from subscribing. That newsletter we mentioned is free, so sign up for our free mailing list if you can't become a paid subscriber, and forward that thing so many times. That's also at KTFPress.comSy Hoekstra: You can also give this show a five-star review on Apple or Spotify, and say something nice about us in a review if you're on Apple Podcasts. You can also like our Facebook page and follow us on Instagram and Threads. But to reiterate, the most important thing we need you to do is go to KTFPress.com and become a paid subscriber. By the way, cool new trick. If you're listening to this on Spotify, just go back to the bonus episode right before this one in the feed, click the button to unlock that episode, and it will take you right where you need to go to Subscribe.Outro and OuttakeJonathan Walton: Alright everyone, thank you so much for listening. Once again, we're starting season 4 this upcoming Friday, May 24, with Dr. Randy Woodley. We will see you then![The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you're building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.]Sy Hoekstra: Okay, [singing a made-up tune] let me hit the button to stop this recording.Jonathan Walton: [commanding, in an English accent] Cease recording. Immediately.Sy Hoekstra: [with fake dramatic anger] Cease it now! This is a public episode. 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“Historically, Jesus has been distorted, warped, corrupted, subverted, twisted, bender, abused, diverted, deflected, misapplied, misused, misrepresented, misinterpreted, misconstrued, falsified, and garbled. The faith-based community fights over interfaith relationships, secular and faith-based relationships, religious text versions, religious texts, religious text translations, "White Jesus", "Black Jesus", religious text transliterations, and multiculturalism. Jesus doesn't engage in such fights.” -Antonio Myers. “Many from the Baby Boomer generation are skipping church because of shifting priorities in later life, the digital divide impacts engagement, disenchantment with institutional religion, health and mobility concerns, political and social views clashing, generational shift in beliefs, economic factors, desire for community elsewhere, changes in family dynamics, lack of engaging content, increased travel and mobility, more focused on personal development, exhaustion with ritual, preference for solitude in spirituality, perception of church as outdated, quest for inclusivity, impact of the Internet.” -Bob Jameson. “Many people no longer want to go to church because they are seeking spiritual fulfillment elsewhere, perception of irrelevance, desire for inclusivity and acceptance, the rise of “the nones”, discomfort with organizational politics, financial expectations and obligations, the digital age and online communities, changing family dynamics and schedules, seeking authenticity and transparency, intellectual and theological curiosity, demand for rational and critical engagement, personal spirituality over organized religion, impact of technology and social media, shifts in social and moral values, desire for genuine community and connection, the need for flexibility and adaptability, cultural and religious pluralism.” -Jane Andrews. “The seventeen reasons for Christianity declining in America is because of rise of secularism, access to diverse philosophies, institutional failures and scandals, evolving social values, scientific and technological advances, interfaith relationships and multiculturalism, increased focus on individualism, critical examination of religious texts, perception of religion as irrelevant and outdated, desire for authenticity and personal connection, influence of New Age and alternative beliefs, disillusionment with religious exclusivity, impact of education and critical thinking, political and social polarization, shift toward experience over doctrine, influence of media and popular culture, personal trauma and negative church experiences.” -Jane Andrew's. “Conflicts between faith and science, personal hardships or negative encounters with religious institutions, the enigma of evil and suffering, exposure to interfaith and multicultural perspectives, intellectual uncertainties and inquiries, yearning for freedom, social and cultural transformations, feeling disconnected or lacking a sense of belonging, seeking authenticity in their spiritual experience, the impact of secularism, family dynamics and its influence, evolving personal beliefs, social and political issues, exploring inclusivity, the impact of media and the abundance of information, seeking a sense of community, contemplating the nature of God, shifting life priorities are eighteen reasons why people stop being Christians.” -Jane Andrews. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/antonio-myers4/support
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Wine Soaked Preachers Live in Studio!Playlist: Autry Inman - Six Rounds of Love and HateLucille Starr - I Don't Trust Me Around YouLoretta Lynn - One's on the WayRonnie Sessions - Scaredy CatThe Wine Soaked Preachers - Big RigThe Wine Soaked Preachers - HindsightThe Wine Soaked Preachers - Craft Beer Talkin' BluesThe Wine Soaked Preachers - Flathead CountyCorb Lund - Redneck RehabSierra Ferrell - Money TrainSean Burns - Destroy MeMatt Masters - How Many Days Until TomorrowChris Isaak - Somebody's CryingKatie Pruitt - White Lies, White Jesus and YouRay Condo & His Ricochets - Teardrops from My Eyes
Watch your wrong spirit! Not other people's evil! Christianity a white religion? Hebrews black? Fani Willis, blind cheered by the blind in black church! The Hake Report, Thursday, February 22, 2024 AD TIME STAMPS * (0:00:00) Today: Missed supers, Fake/Real spirit, … * (0:02:23) Hey, guys! * (0:03:43) Supers: Jokl answered your questions (2-21-24 guest) * (0:07:43) Supers: DLive LAST WEEK. CashApp too! Frodus, Hake music* (0:10:38) Coffees: Be still over and over? Forgive mother? * (0:15:33) DANIEL, TX: Job interview advice? Really want it. * (0:20:33) DANIEL: Robert E Lee, John in Phoenix (call drops) * (0:21:28) MARK, CA: Tiffany Heynard; JLP, Jesus, Love/Hate * (0:31:34) MARK: Christianity the white man's religion? * (0:35:49) MARK: Calling people "Fat" like JLP did* (0:41:02) MARK: Advocate for separation by law * (0:42:21) GUY, THAILAND: (Call drops) * (0:43:14) AL, TN: Hebrews were black (not BHI) * (0:52:05) AL: blacks, Separation, Africans civilized Europe * (0:55:40) AL: Spike Lee, positive, Moors * (0:58:26) AL: Credit where due. Whites spread Christianity. "White Jesus" pushed? * (1:04:26) JEFF, LA: Google Gemini AI racially confused * (1:08:26) JEFF: PBD, Coulter, Bill Maher: Newsom? ESPN race-baiting * (1:14:33) Starflyer 59 - "Night Music" (2001, Leave Here a Stranger) * (1:19:45) Super: "bad attitude" in court: black defendants, Trump? * (1:24:03) Super: Covid-19 joke: Made in China, last longer than a month * (1:25:09) Super: J6 jail? Devilish joy in seeing mess! * (1:26:17) Super: Carbs hydrate! They're good! * (1:28:00) Facts are not truth; blind misleading the blind * (1:32:18) Fani Willis church clip; evil spirit mixing facts and lies * (1:42:52) RICK, VA: Trump, property tax; liberal schools * (1:50:50) Closing! I'll read supers tomorrow! * (1:51:10) Ninety Pound Wuss - "The Dawning of this Night Divine" (1997, Where Meager Die of Self Interest) BLOG https://www.thehakereport.com/blog/2024/2/22/the-hake-report-thu-2-22-24 PODCAST / Substack Hake News from JLP https://www.thehakereport.com/jlp-news/2024/2/22/biden-admin-toying-with-closing-the-overwhelmed-border-hake-news-thu-2-22-24 Hake is live M-F 9-11a PT (11-1CT/12-2ET) Call-in 1-888-775-3773 https://www.thehakereport.com/show VIDEO YouTube | Rumble* | Facebook | X | BitChute | Odysee* PODCAST Substack | Apple | Spotify | Castbox | Podcast Addict *SUPER CHAT on platforms* above or BuyMeACoffee, etc. SHOP Teespring || All My Links JLP Network: JLP | Church | TFS | Nick | Joel Get full access to HAKE at thehakereport.substack.com/subscribe
#whitejesus #colorism #skinbleach Youtube link: https://youtu.be/kUgaCm8EgO0 Podcast link: https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/5G7KWsi16Gb Join us as we have a conversation about the "White Jesus," and how that image was used to belittle, subjugate, and confuse indigenous people all over the planet earth. In that, skin bleaching is a by-product of this colonial activity. Tap into this conversation....thanks! #RBCF Hashtags: #skinlightening #skincare #glowingskin #skinwhitening #skincareroutine #skinbrightening #skin #whitejesus #blackjesus #iuic #jesusiswhite #jesusisblack #hebrewisraelite #blackhebrews #realblackconsciousnessforum #colorism #european #indigenous #aboriginal #moor #moorishamerican #moorishistory --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/realblackforum/message
The Context of White Supremacy welcomes Warren Read. A White male, writer and educator, Mr. Warren is a Washington state native. Once again, James Loewen's Sundown Towns (Racially Restricted Regions) is instructive because many areas of Washington state and Minnesota where hostile to and/or prohibited the presence of black people. Read wrote about his White Grandfather, Louis Dondino, who participated in lynching thee black males in Duluth, Minnesota in 1920. Dondino served a brief stint in prison for his conviction of rioting (not murder) in this case. Read's book, The Lyncher in Me, is his account of this grizzly act of White Terrorism and a biography of his White (Racist?) family's criminal history - which includes child rape. Gus found this ironic considering the reason Dondino and other Whites lynched three black dudes is because the privileged trio was accused of raping a White girl - which turned out to be a lie. Read describes growing up in a mostly White Washington state enclave. However, he was "terrorized" in middle school by a loudmouth, thick-armed, kinky-haired black female. Read starts his memoir suggesting that he, a "gay" White dude, is also libel to be lynched or assassinated like Matthew Shephard. Contrary to popular opinion, Shephard is not a hate crime victim. Rather, this White dude was killed in a drug deal gone bad. Mr. Read is aware of this, but works to deceive readers into thinking that all kinds of White people are lynched and crucified like the biblical White Jesus. #WhitePeopleCantBeIgnorantAboutRacism #TheDelectableNegro #TheCOWS15Years INVEST in The COWS – http://paypal.me/TheCOWS Cash App: https://cash.app/$TheCOWS CALL IN NUMBER: 605.313.5164 CODE: 564943#
In this episode, we have an honest conversation with producer, rapper, songwriter, and entrepreneur, J Crumm's about his faith journey and music career, including his experiences with racism within the church. Crumm also discusses his work with at-risk youth and his openness to future collaborations. DJ Focus and Dice Gamble have a real talk conversation about the importance of relationships in community and tips on how to be more social. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
During this holiday season, you likely encountered public nativity scenes depicting the birth of Jesus, presenting the family with very rare exceptions as white. And the same can be said of his ubiquitous adult portrait –– with fair skin and hair a radiant gold, eyes fixed on the middle distance. In this segment from 2020, Eloise talks to Mbiyu Chui, pastor at the Shrine of the Black Madonna in Detroit, about unlearning Jesus's whiteness. She also hears from Edward Blum, author of The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America, about how the image came dominate in the U.S., and psychologist Simon Howard on how White Jesus has infiltrated our subconsciouses. Lastly, Eloise speaks to Rev. Kelly Brown Douglas, womanist theologian and Dean of the Episcopal Divinity School at Union Theological Seminary, about the theology of the Black Christ. This is segment first aired in our October 1st, 2020 program, God Bless.
During this holiday season, you likely encountered public nativity scenes depicting the birth of Jesus, presenting the family with very rare exceptions as white. And the same can be said of his ubiquitous adult portrait –– with fair skin and hair a radiant gold, eyes fixed on the middle distance. In this segment from 2020, Eloise talks to Mbiyu Chui, pastor at the Shrine of the Black Madonna in Detroit, about unlearning Jesus's whiteness. She also hears from Edward Blum, author of The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America, about how the image came dominate in the U.S., and psychologist Simon Howard on how White Jesus has infiltrated our subconsciouses. Lastly, Eloise speaks to Rev. Kelly Brown Douglas, womanist theologian and Dean of the Episcopal Divinity School at Union Theological Seminary, about the theology of the Black Christ. This is segment first aired in our October 1st, 2020 program, God Bless.
"White Jesus can't walk on water, but he can build the hell out a slave ship." Michael Harriot explains why using religion and faith as a way to govern can be problematic. He discusses the many hypocrisies that are inflicted on the American people daily, including discriminating against the LGBTQ+ community but allowing divorce or racial segregation when the Bible states, "love thy neighbor." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This bonus episode is the funniest, most out there, make you cackle episode you'll hear. James starts off telling us about the amazing deal he got when purchasing a Purple Rain shirt… which definitely had him excited. From there, we read some horrible bumper stickers.
“Always be on the lookout for the presence of wonder.” E.B. White Jesus is not afraid to hang out with messy, unkept, sinners. In fact, that was his very plan from the beginning! In this episode I am taking you back in time to parts of my story where I can see now that Jesus was there….wooing me, drawing me, even tho I wasn't ready to say yes. I'll show you how he was making deposits that would begin to pay dividends later. And my hope is that as I have shared how this going back has drawn me deeper and allowed me to worship in new ways, that you'll be eager to do the same in your own life, if you haven't already.
Using the language of human power (king, master, lord, etc) has warped our understanding of God. We've recreated God and Jesus in the image of our own human rulers, despots, dictators, and villains. But if God isn't like earthly rulers, then what is the reign of God actually about?
Tamice Spencer-Helms, speaker, theologian and author of the book, Faith Unleavened: The Wilderness Between Trayvon Martin and George Floyd, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Tamice explains her background in the black church and how she ended up at a white church. Tim and Tamice discuss how white Jesus represented the system of whiteness in the church. Tim and Tamice discuss the definition of whiteness. Lastly, they discuss how white Christians can become effective allies to black Americans. Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Support Our Work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We got the President Roaster Roy Wood Jr in the studio, fresh off his performance at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. We talk about the jokes he didn't use, the ones he should have, Trump, Netflix's Cleopatra and how The Jerry Springer show might look funny in the light. Indulge! 00:00 Roy Wood Jr squirming 01:40 Andrew got the Nation of Islam plug 03:43 Farrakhan the best orator alive? 05:08 Correspondents' Dinner background & insight 07:11 They didn't know Roy was nice at stand-up 08:59 Getting selected for the gig - G.S. Warriors involved 10:44 Roy Wood Jr one of less than 15 + style of comedy 11:56 How long to prepare? Changing it up 16:31 Trump was p***y for not turning up 17:26 The School Sh**ting joke + being strategic 20:56 Roy didn't get the Epstein invitation + no-one policed the jokes 22:28 Roy's meanest jokes that didn't make it 26:52 Flagrant's jokes for Roy - Disney +, Stormy Daniels, Gaping holes 36:48 Roy's appearance on “Inside Jokes” 38:11 Roy's scientific style of stand-up - precision 41:55 Roy's father - Vietnam, South Africa and CSPAN Crackas 43:25 Local reporters first to go + Civil Rights era PTSD 46:32 Kamala got them soft hands + speaking to the attendees 49:27 Feelings at the start and end + Diana Ross is important 53:08 Roy Wood Jr new Inside Joke 54:27 Roy pissing off Industrial Kool-Aid Complex 55:28 Grandma's heavies + Peanut Butter & Choc chip cookies are BLACK 01:06:17 Egyptians upset about Netflix Cleopatra 01:08:26 White Jesus and untrustworthy White Pastors 01:11:18 2 girls 1 c**k 01:13:11 Jerry Springer looks funny in the light BUT we loved it 01:20:07 NBA - TV dictated the south's fav. teams 01:22:28 Alabama ain't that bad, guys! 01:25:05 Responsibility of giving back + Roy's criminal past 01:37:19 Akaash's competing identities + repping your set
GRLA talks about his upbringing, his opinions, views, having two wives, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 2:00 Flakko on being a part of the conscious movement and following Umar 3:20 Bricc Baby asks GRLA Hebrew what sent him on the path of the conscious movement 4:10 GRLA Hebrew talks about watching YouTube videos disproving White Jesus and being confused by the Bible 5:55 Brick Baby asks GRLA Hebrew about the beginning of time in a Biblical way or with the Big Bang 9:28 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew about going to county, and using that as a reminder to not commit any more crimes 11:10 Bricc Baby asks GRLA Hebrew about his charges and GRLA Hebrew explains his old life 14:00 GRLA Hebrew learns about LA Gangs 16:18 GRLA Hebrew talks about getting shot at age 14 22:30 GRLA Hebrew on getting asked by the police who shot him and not snitching 24:30 GRLA Hebrew talking about being the big homie to others at 15 years old and dropping out at 17 27:20 GRLA Hebrew talks about bangin' 6 days a week and preaching on Sundays 35:35 GRLA Hebrew on meeting Sa Neter 38:20 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew about his debate with Polite 40:10 Bricc Baby asks GRLA Hebrew about the Original man from Africa 46:30 Flakko asks about the original J and ghettos being created for places for J to live 50:45 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew if he believes White people are inherently bad or good 1:02:40 GRLA Hebrew talks about his White 9th grader teacher telling his class that white people were inferior 1:07:40 GRLA Hebrew clarifies his previous statement saying it was from seven years ago 1:11:37 GRLA Hebrew says crk era in the 80's is shared blame by Black people and the government 1:14:00 Bricc Baby talks about the lack of generational wealth in Black families 1:16:50 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew about CEO Reek on Clubhouse 1:20:30 Bricc Baby explains that Jesus was a real person 1:23:12 GRLA Hebrew talks about his talk with Wack 100 on Clubhouse 1:29:40 GRLA Hebrew what he thinks about Umar and his way of teaching 1:42:40 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew on having two wives that are faithful to him 1:44:30 GRLA Hebrew talks about polygamy possibly becoming legal in New York Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
During this holiday season, you likely encountered public nativity scenes depicting the birth of Jesus, presenting the family with very rare exceptions as white. And the same can be said of his ubiquitous adult portrait –– with fair skin and hair a radiant gold, and eyes fixed on the middle distance. In this segment from 2020, Eloise talks to Mbiyu Chui, pastor at the Shrine of the Black Madonna in Detroit, about unlearning Jesus's whiteness. She also hears from Edward Blum, author of The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America, about how the image came dominate in the U.S., and psychologist Simon Howard on how White Jesus has infiltrated our subconsciouses. Lastly, Eloise speaks to Rev. Kelly Brown Douglas, womanist theologian and Dean of the Episcopal Divinity School at Union Theological Seminary, about the theology of the Black Christ. This is segment first aired in our October 1st, 2020 program, God Bless.
During this holiday season, you likely encountered public nativity scenes depicting the birth of Jesus, presenting the family with very rare exceptions as white. And the same can be said of his ubiquitous adult portrait –– with fair skin and hair a radiant gold, and eyes fixed on the middle distance. In this segment from 2020, Eloise talks to Mbiyu Chui, pastor at the Shrine of the Black Madonna in Detroit, about unlearning Jesus's whiteness. She also hears from Edward Blum, author of The Color of Christ: The Son of God and the Saga of Race in America, about how the image came dominate in the U.S., and psychologist Simon Howard on how White Jesus has infiltrated our subconsciouses. Lastly, Eloise speaks to Rev. Kelly Brown Douglas, womanist theologian and Dean of the Episcopal Divinity School at Union Theological Seminary, about the theology of the Black Christ. This is segment first aired in our October 1st, 2020 program, God Bless. On the Media is supported by listeners like you. Support OTM by donating today (https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/otm). Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @onthemedia, and share your thoughts with us by emailing onthemedia@wnyc.org.
Demi returns to Accra; EMMY AWARD WINNERS Sheryl Lee Ralph and Quinta Brunson; Black Ariel and White Jesus; reviews of Queen Sugar and **TRIGGER WARNING** the Desiree Washington episode of “Mike” ABOUT ME:http://www.demetrialucas.com/about/STAY CONNECTED: IG: demetriallucasTwitter: demetriallucasFB: demetriallucasYouTube: demetriallucasThanks to our sponsors:Go to DAILY HARVEST.com/respectable to get up to forty dollars off your first box!Go to ShipStation.com today and sign up with promo code RESPECT for a FREE 60-day trial.Sign-up for a Chime Checking Account at chime.com/ratchetVisit BetterHelp.com/ratchet today to get 10% off your first month.Go to Rocket Money.com/rachet and save on your subscriptions today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Demi returns to Accra; EMMY AWARD WINNERS Sheryl Lee Ralph and Quinta Brunson; Black Ariel and White Jesus; reviews of Queen Sugar and **TRIGGER WARNING** the Desiree Washington episode of “Mike” ABOUT ME: http://www.demetrialucas.com/about/ STAY CONNECTED: IG: demetriallucas Twitter: demetriallucas FB: demetriallucas YouTube: demetriallucas Thanks to our sponsors: Go to DAILY HARVEST.com/respectable to get up to forty dollars off your first box! Go to ShipStation.com today and sign up with promo code RESPECT for a FREE 60-day trial. Sign-up for a Chime Checking Account at chime.com/ratchet Visit BetterHelp.com/ratchet today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Rocket Money.com/rachet and save on your subscriptions today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices