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Allison and Steve have been together for a little over two years, but she does tell us at the beginning of their relationship they took a small break. Allisons says their initial break was because she thought Steve was cheating on her, but they reconciled and things have been great for the most part. However, Allison learned from her younger sister the other day that she saw Steve on Tinder because Steve apparently used a photo from their older sister's wedding and cropped everyone out. Allison asks for our help to figure out what's going on and see if Steve is wasting her time or not. We call Steve pretending to work for Tinder Support and learn Steve has been using Tinder more than we thought! Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Katie and Benjamin have been dating for a little over eight months and even though they don't live with one another, both of their leases are up this year. Katie tells us that she did flirt with the idea of moving in with Ben and it seemed as if he avoided talking about it. However, this past weekend Katie learned that Benjamin is apparently moving in with his best friend James even though she asked Benjamin if they wanted to move in. Katie also tells us Benjamin's friend told her that she wasn't the “only one” in Benjamin's life. We call Benjamin pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Benjamin asks if we can send them to someone named Monica. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Madison and Griffin have been dating for about eight months after first meeting each other in college. Madison tells us that she and Griffin were in the same friend circle and finally started dating last year. For the most part, Madison says things have been great, but last Thursday she noticed that someone used her unopened box of Tampons she left at Griffin's place. Madison also saw that someone left a Snickers wrapper in the bathroom even though Griffin is allergic. At the same time, Madison wanted to see what was going on so she staked out at Griffin's place and saw his coworker Amber walked into his place even though Griffin never mentioned Amber coming over. We call Griffin pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Griffin says he has nobody to send flowers to. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Kenzie and Matthew have been dating for a little over ten months after meeting on Hinge and they actually both had mutual friends with one another. Kenzie tells us that she does travel for work, but because she has a dog Matthew has been dog-sitting for Kenzie. The other day Kenzie wanted to log into her HBO Max account and saw that someone named Allie was logged in and she has no idea how that was possible. Kenzie thinks Matthew may have had someone over when he dog-sitted for her last and she thinks whoever he brought over forgot to log out. We call Matthew pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Matthew asks if they can be sent to Kenzie. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Ashley and Kyle have been dating for over eight months after first meeting on Hinge. Ashley tells us that they are slightly long-distanced because they live over an hour away from each other, but for the most part Ashley said things have worked. However, over the weekend Ashley got a DM from someone named Kim who asked her if she was currently dating Kyle, because she also has for the past two months. Kim apparently did some digging and found out Kyle is hooking up with multiple women so she and Ashley agreed to use Roses to see who else is in the picture. We call Kyle pretending to be The Morning Bull Ride and when we ask who the last person he saw naked is Kyle says it's between two people. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Ashley and Tim have been dating for a little over ten months after meeting each other through their mutual friend Kaitlin. Ashley tells us that she and Tim both met at a wedding Kaitlin invited Ashley too and started dating shortly after. Ashley tells us things have been great for the most part, but she has started to notice that Kaitlin has been a little distant, but does keep inferring that she is close to Tim. At the same time, Kaitlin has noticed that there will be times where both of them will be in the same location, but they won't ever tell Ashley they are together. Kaitlin also shares that on their last work trip that she found out Ashley and Tim shared the same room and now she's worried about Kaitlin. We call Tim pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask Tim who he wants to send the flowers to, Tim ask if we can send them to someone named Natalie. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Kendall and Bryce have been in an on-again, off-again relationship for the past three years after first matching on Tinder. Kendall tells us that Bryce moved for a job two years ago, but he recently moved back to the area and they picked things back up again. Kendall tells us while they both live on their own, she does have a key to Bryce's place and spends most of her time there. Kendall says things have been great this time around, but she has noticed that that last time she hung out with Bryce's friends that it felt like he introduced her as a friend more than his girlfriend. Kendall doesn't want to assume the worst, but she asks for our help to see if she should invest in Bryce this time or completely call things off. We call Bryce pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask Bryce who he wants to send the flowers to, Bryce ask if we can send them to his girlfriend Kat. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Andrea and Miles have been dating for a little over three years and while they did have some issues at the beginning of their relationship with Miles flirting, Andrea tells us things have been great ever since. However, Andrea has started to notice that Miles is going to a lot of work happy hours and never invites her. At the same time, Miles turns his location off so Andrea has no idea when she'll even see Miles unless he purposefully texts her. Andrea doesn't want to assume, but she is worried Miles is slipping into his past behaviors again. We call Miles pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask Miles who he wants to send the flowers to, Miles ask if we can send them to Andrea. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Reece and Ben have been dating for a little over two weeks after first meeting on another about a month ago. Reece tells us that Ben's birthday was this past weekend so she decided to get his car cleaned as a gift because they just started dating. While Reece was driving Ben's car she decided to pair her phone to listen to her own music and saw that someone named Kendall was also connected to the car. At the same time, when Reece got back in the car after it was cleaned she found underwear in the car that wasn't hers and she's worried Ben is seeing someone else in addition to her. We call Ben pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask Ben who he wants to send the flowers to, Ben asks if we can send them to Kendall his girlfriend of six months. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Rachel and Chris have been dating for a little over five months and for the most part Rachel tells us things have been great. However, this past weekend Rachel tells us that she and Chris were going to get dinner together, but Chris called her right before saying he had to stay late at work. Chris sent Rachel a photo of what was going on at work and when Rachel looked at it she saw that the photo said it was taken a week before Chris sent it. Rachel is starting to worry Chris has been lying every other time he said he was staying late for work and asks for our help to get to the bottom of it. We call Chris pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask Chris who he wants to send the flowers to, Chris asks if we can send them to someone named Maggie. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Samantha and Dustin have been together for a little over two years even though they live about 40 minutes from one another before traffic. Samantha tells us that she spends a lot of time at Dustin's place just because the drive is so bad, but this weekend Samantha was planning to crash at Dustin's weekend for her birthday weekend. While Samantha was cleaning his place, Samantha found a used “protection” wrapper in the guest bed even though Dustin hasn't had a guest over in forever. Samantha tells us that she and Dustin don't use protection, but she's worried Dusting might be seeing someone else whenever she is gone. We call Dustin pretending to be The Morning Bull Ride and when we ask him who the last person he saw naked is, Dusting says someone named Hazel. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Trish and Matt have been officially dating for three months after going on their first date four months ago. Trish tells us that she and Matt met at work and while they have kept things secret between them at work, but any time Matt has a department happy hour he makes sure Trish doesn't go. At the same time, Matt won't talk to Trish at work until they leave and she's starting to think something is going on. We call Matt pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Martt asks if they can be sent his girlfriend of a year Hannah. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Bianca and Marty have been dating for a year-and-a-half after first meeting on Bumble. Bianca tells us that even though they both have busy schedules because of work, they always made time for one another. However, Bianca has started to notice that Marty has made less and less time for her and isn't even attempting to hang out. Bianca also lets us know that last week she got home early and wanted to surprise Marty at his place; however, when she pulled up she saw a car she had never seen before in the driveway to which Marty later told her was his neighbor's. We call Marty pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Marty asks if they can be sent to someone named Addy. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Alicia and Tom have been dating for a little over three months and while things have been great for the most part, Alicia mentions that last week something weird happened. Alicia tells us that when she was over at Tom's place she wanted to update a framed photo of them she got for his birthday, but when she did she noticed that Tom put a photo of him with another woman behind Alicia's photo. Alicia decided to snoop around even more and is convinced Tom is cheating on her. We call Tom pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Tom asks if they can be sent to someone named Justine. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Alyssa and Jason have been dating for over three years and have been actually living with one another for over a year. Alyssa tells us that she thinks they are ready for the next step because they even have a cat together too. However, Alyssa has started to notice that the bed has been made every day she leaves, but it's as if Jason never slept in the bed at all. At the same time, Alyssa put Post-It notes in the bed to see if Jason would react and he hasn't mentioned anything at all and she's starting to worry. We call Jason pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Jason asks if they can be sent to someone named Charlotte. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Marissa and Teddy have been dating for over three years after first meeting in college. Marissa does tell us that at one point both of their friends and family didn't like that they were together, but things have improved the longer they have been together. However, over the weekend Marissa came back from her sister's bachelorette party and noticed a long red hair on Teddy and hers bed and she doesn't have red hair. Marissa doesn't want to assume Teddy is cheating on her, but she is starting to worry. We call Teddy pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Teddy asks if they can be sent to Marissa. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Ashley and Nate have been dating for a little over two years and have been living with one another for the past six months. Ashley tells us that things have been great, but ever since she started going back to the office she has noticed things have felt kind of off. Nate still works at home, but Ashley has seen that Nate won't be home for hours during the workday on their pet cam, but their dog is. At the same time, Ashley noticed that Nate has been on a ton of group food orders and is worried something else is going on. We call Nate pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Nate asks if they can be sent to their neighbor Vanessa. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Michelle and Dave have been together for a little over three years and while things have been great for the most part, Michelle tells us things have been different the past three months. Dave got their friend Kayla a new job at his office and Michelle has noticed that Dave hangs out with her all the time. At the same time, Kayla tried to give Michelle advice on what to get for Dave's birthday and it not only weirded Michelle out, but they were both sick at the same time last week as well. We call Dave pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Dave asks if they can be sent to Kayla. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Kaitlyn and Bryce have been together for a little over a year and a half and after being long-distanced they just moved in with one another last month. Kaitlyn tells us things have been great for the most part, but ever since Kaitlyn moved in with Bryce she has noticed that Bryce's friend Christina has started acting weird with her. At the same time, Kaitlyn noticed that Christina posted that she was at the same bar Bryce was at with his guy friends. When they got drinks with them the next day, Bryce's friends acted as if they hadn't seen Bryce at all the night before and now Kaitlyn is worried there's more to Christina than she thought. We call Bryce pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Bryce asks if they can be sent to Christina. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Kate and Michael have been together for a little over three months after first meeting each other on Tinder. Kate tells us things have been great for the most part, but her friend told her the other day that she found a wedding registry site where Michael was the groom. Unfortunately the website was password-locked, but the wedding is in Maryland so Kate is worried that she is the side piece to Michael's potential fiancé. We call Michael pretending to send him free flowers and when we ask Michael who he wants to send them to, he asks if we can send them to someone named Stephanie. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Kayla and Dan have been dating for ten months and even though Dan travels a lot for work, Kayla says things have been great. However, Dan is currently on a work trip in Austin and Kayla was actually sent a screenshot of a message Dan joked about hooking up with his female co-worker Trish in Austin who he used to date before Kayla. Kaya asks for our help to find out what's going on and get things in order. We call Dan pretending to work at the hotel he currently is staying at and try to offer him a free couples' massage. When we ask Dan who he wants to do the couples massage with, he asks if we can put someone named Trish also on the reservation. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Molly and Chris have been together for seven months and despite Molly traveling for work every month, things have been great for the most part. Molly tells us that this past weekend she wanted to surprise Chris so she came home early from her work trip. However, Chris seemed like he was guilty of hiding something when Molly actually surprised him. At the same time, Molly found cans of hard seltzer throughout Chris' place even though he doesn't drink them and she also saw that all of her makeup that she left at Chris' had been rearranged. Molly is pretty sure something is going on and asks for our help. We call Chris pretending to send him free flowers and when we ask Chris who he wants to send them to, he asks if we can send them to someone named Courtney. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Maggie and Derek have actually been on and off after dating for a year and a half, but recently they have both started talking to one another. Maggie tells us that they first broke up because Derek wasn't ready for a long-term relationship and needed to grow up, but since then things have been better. However, Maggie noticed over the weekend that Derek stopped sharing his location even though he was checking in on Maggie's stories throughout the weekend. Maggie isn't sure what happened, but she's pretty sure Derek is cheating on her. We call Derek pretending to be The Morning Bull Ride and ask who the last person who he saw naked is, but Derek tells us it could be one of two names. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Brooke and Scott have been dating for a little over eight months after meeting each other at work. Brooke tells us that they have kept things under wrap at work just to avoid their co-workers, but for the most part things have been great. However, Brooke noticed that at a recent “Yappy Hour” that their office had that Scott's dog ran to one of his female coworkers Morgan as if they knew each other well. Brooke isn't sure what that means, but she's starting to worry that Scott's old reputation of being a player might be true still. We call Scott pretending to offer him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask who Scott wants them sent to, he asks if we can send them someone named Michelle. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Lauren and Ben have been dating one another for a little over three months after meeting at a bar almost four months ago. Lauren tells us that things have been great for the most part, but she has noticed that Ben started texting her from a different phone, which Ben claimed was his work phone. At the same time, Lauren has noticed that Ben texts Lauren about calling her before he actually does. Lauren isn't exactly sure what's going on, but she asks for our help to see what's going on. We call Ben pretending to offer him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask who Ben wants them sent to, he asks if we can send them to his wife Kim.. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Hannah and Jeremy have been dating for a little over a year after first meeting each other on Hinge. Hannah tells us things have been great except she has never actually spent the night at Jeremy's place. She has gone over to his place, but every time it gets late, Jeremy comes up with excuses. This past weekend Hannah actually found a charging cord for a “shaky thing” that she know she and Jeremy have never used and she's starting to question if Jeremy is seeing someone else. We call Jeremy pretending to offer him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask who Jeremy wants them sent to, he asks if we can send them to him so he can deliver them to whoever he is seeing tonight. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Ellie and Andrew have been dating for a little over two months after first meeting on Tinder about a month before. Ellie tells us that she is currently dog-sitting for Andrew at his house while he's away for work and has been noticing a ton of packages for someone named Abigail that keep getting delivered to his place. Ellie decided to open one of the packages and saw that they were intimate items and she's starting to think that she isn't the only person Andrew is currently seeing. We call Andrew pretending to offer him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask who Andrew wants them sent to, he asks if we can send them to someone named Nicolei. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Megan and Aaron have been dating for a little over three years and she tells us that she knows he is cheating on her. Megan tells us that about a week ago she borrowed Aaron's Apple Watch and because he didn't clear it before giving it to Megan, she saw all the risqué texts Aaron was sending to his “work wife” Rachel. Megan has met Rachel before and she always got a weird vibe from her and now she's convinced that it was because she was sleeping with Aaron. We call Aaron pretending to be The Morning Bull Ride and when we ask Aaron who the last person who he saw naked is, Aaraon says Rachel. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Keely and Vance have been dating one another for a little over four months, but Keely tells us that she thinks she might be the “other woman.” She's always had a hard time getting a hold of Vance so she decided to plan a trip for them this past weekend and throughout the entire trip Vance was always one his phone and trying to leave early. Keely asks for our help just to figure out what is going on because she thinks that Vance has no real interest in their relationship. We call Vance pretending to offer him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants to send them to, Vance asks if we can send them to his girlfriend Bethany. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Rebecca and Jake have been dating for over a year-and-a-half and for the most part Rebecca tells us things have been great. However, Rebecca has had such a difficult time getting in contact with Jake that she asked him to put her on her priority contact list. Jake didn't know how so she did it for him, but saw that someone named Kelli was already on his priority contact list. Rebecca had her friend look up who Kelli was and she found out that Kelli used to go to high school with Jake so she's starting to worry something else may be going on. We call Jake pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants the flowers sent to, Jake asks if they can go to Kelli. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Anna and Adam have been dating for a little under two years and currently don't live with one another. Anna tells us that things have been great and she knows that Adam does act like a child with what he eats and cleaning his place, but recently she has noticed Adam has been getting things together. Anna isn't exactly sure what caused Adam to get his life together, but she knows she hasn't said anything and thinks something else might be going on. We call Adam pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants the flowers sent to, Adam asks if they can go to someone named Shannon. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Chelsea and Brody have been dating for a little over three years after growing up with one another. Chelsea tells us that for the first part of their relationship that they were long-distanced, but Brody moved in six months ago and Chelsea thought things were going great. However, Chelsea has noticed that Brody has been acting kind of secretive around her and Brody has told her that he has been helping his parents move for the past few weeks. Chelsea recently talked to Brody's mom and found out that they moved a month ago and now she's thinking something else is going on. We call Brody pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants the flowers sent to, Brody asks if they can go to someone named K K. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Renee and Adam have been on and off with one another for the past few years after first meeting in college. Renee tells us that they both have recently reconciled and things are going great so far. However,, Renee is concerned that whenever Adam goes out, that he might be seeing someone else because Adam never shares his location with Renee and doesn't talk to her at all. Renee isn't sure if she should keep wasting her time on Adam or if she is just suspicious of him because of their past so she asks for our help. We call Adam pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants the flowers sent to, Adam asks if they can go to someone named Katie for their first date. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Lauren and Nick have been dating for three years after first meeting on Bumble. They both live with one another and for the most part Lauren says things have been great. However, Nick did get a promotion a few months ago and she has not only started to see him less, but the other day she did get a weird text from Nick about missing dinner which she found out was a scheduled text from him he forgot to delete. At the same time, Lauren has found out that Nick is still pays to be on Hinge and she's starting to think Nick is cheating on her. We call Nick pretending to give him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants the flowers sent to, Nick asks if they can go to someone named Michaela. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Andrew and Kenzie have been dating for over a year and a half and according to Andrew things have been great. However, a few weeks Kenzie had a bachelorette party that he didn't really hear anything about, but he has started to notice that Kenzie has been overly suspicious over anything Andrew does. Andrew isn't really sure why Kenzie has been acting so strange, but he's starting to think she did something that has her worried he may find out about. We call Kenzie pretending to be The Morning Bull Ride and when we ask Kenzie who the last person is that she saw naked she says someone named Hunter. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Veronica and Pete have been dating for a year as of last week and for the most part Veronica tells us things have been great. Veronica also lets us know that Pete's birthday is coming up soon so she wanted to get a canvas portrait of his cat so she started looking for pictures of Pete's cat on his phone. However, Veronica noticed that Pete still had Tinder on his phone even though they've been dating for so long. Veronica also lets us know that Pete keeps his old phones so she's starting to wonder if he is still meeting other woman with his other phones. We call Pete pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Pete asks if we can send one rose per day over the next few days to someone named Destiny. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Dana and Matt have been dating for over a year and a half and even though they don't live with one another, Dana spends about four nights a week at Matt's. Dana tells us that things have been great for the most part, but a few months she found a box with a Tiffany necklace on it so she thought it was for her birthday that just happened. However, on her actual birthday she only got a gift card and doesn't know where the necklace went. Dana asks for our help to see just exactly what is going on with the necklace. We call Matt pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Matt asks if we can send them to his “special friend” Haley. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Bayley and Jake are technically not dating, but Bayley is pretty convinced that she was the “other woman” with Jake with a one night stand. Bayley met Jake during one of his friend's bachelor party and she eventually spent the night with Jake at his hotel, however, Bayley noticed that while Jake was taking a shower that he had hickeys on his neck. She assumes Jake is seeing somebody else, but she is feeling guilty that she slept with someone else's boyfriend so she asks for our help to figure out what's going on. We call Jake pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Jake asks if he can send them to his girlfriend of three months. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Haley and Kevin have been dating for a little over a year and even though they don't live together, Haley tells us that she stays at his place all the time. Haley tells us things had been great for the most part, but she has started to notice some weird things with Kevin like how he took down all of his photos down from social media besides a photo of him and his old dog. At the same time, Haley “accidentally” tracked Kevin's location because of an AirTag in his wallet the past few weekends and she keeps noticing he keeps going to the same hotel but she's not sure with who because he never mentioned going away. We call Kevin pretending to work at the hotel he's staying at to see who he is visiting and Kevin tells us he keep sending a mobile key to someone named Megan for his room. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Allie and Andrew aren't necessarily in a fully-committed relationship, but ever since meeting a month ago at a bar they have hooked up multiple times. This past weekend Allie got a DM from someone named Brittany claiming to be Andrew's wife. Apparently Andrew has had a secret apartment that his wife didn't know about that he brings woman back to and now Allie wants us to catch Andrew and stop him from doing the same to other women. We call Andrew pretending to send him a free bouquet of flowers and when we ask him who he wants them sent to, Andrew asks if we can send them to someone named Michelle. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
Angela and Dave have been officially dating for a little over four months after first meeting six months ago. Angela tells us things have been great, but the other day she and Dave were having friends over and when Angela asked Dave to put his party playlist on for the party, she noticed he had multiple playlists called “Freak Nasty.” Angela has never heard of the playlists before, but she tells us that all of the music are “bedroom songs” which has caused her to worry a little bit that Dave might be seeing other people. We call Dave pretending to be The Morning Bull Ride and when we ask him who the last person who he saw naked was Dave says it could be one of two people. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses!
We're counting down the five best War of the Roses of 2024! These Roses are some of the most hilarious, talked about, or interesting Roses of 2024 and deserve being honored with another go-around! The BEST War of the Roses featured Rachel and Dustin who had been dating for over two years after originally meeting on Hinge. Rachel tells us that Dustin actually works for her dad's business so it was pretty easy to introduce him to the family. Rachel thought things were going in the right direction, but she has recently noticed that Dustin keeps turning off his location randomly. Rachel knows Dustin is always on his phone so she's not sure what was happening, but she did use photo frames with hidden cameras to see what was going on. Unfortunately, Rachel did see another woman entering Dustin's place that she has no idea about. At the same time, Rachel tells us that she knows the other woman is currently in his apartment and asks for our help. Find out what‘s really going on in this War of the Roses!