Unscripted discussions and bursts of laughter between friends Gary, Jereme, and Jen. We come from varying faith backgrounds and spend most of our time discussing healing from spiritually abusive situations and toxic faith, rearing kids, and life as Christ
Join us for this episode as we chat with Professor Scot Loyd about everything from the weather in North Dakota to unhealthy views of eschatology. Link to Scot's blog: https://scotloyd.blog/
In this video, we present some very compelling arguments as well as personal experiences to confirm we believe the UPCI is in fact a cult. We would love to hear your thoughts after examining the evidence. Pulpit destroying video:https://fb.watch/mLJ0WSGysk/ Fire dancers video:https://fb.watch/mLJ6CMUBtg/ Walter Martin and Robert Sabin video:https://youtu.be/1t1OIPb9JXQ?si=hPXqeUxnc_FBRj4S
I had the privilege to sit down with Lori Wilcoxson from the channel, "Leaving the UPCI." We had a casual, friend-to-friend chat about the struggles of finding a healthy church after leaving legalism. Join us as we discuss tithing, community, and more, including a laugh about (gasp) curse words. Be sure to check out and subscribe to Lori's channel if you haven't already! Link below. https://youtube.com/@leavingtheupci239?si=C4pHeA39u9HJrnjr
Join us as we have an impromptu discussion about David Bernard's recent message and reveal what's in Jen's new book, Backsliding Into Jesus: Finding Hope After Legalism. Bernard's message: https://youtu.be/mveuWhp1_D4?si=fJCD6jeLf78IijVd Jen's book: https://a.co/d/3tiPbdS
A candid discussion about modesty. What does it mean as a Christian to be modest? Do we need a strict set of rules like the United Pentecostal Church or Apostolics have to be modest? Kelly joins us for a talk between friends about this triggering topic.
Jen didn't mess this one up and we are happy to announce that our video about tithing is here! Is tithing for Christians today? Will our money be cursed if we don't tithe? How about giving to a local church? All these questions plus more answered along with the usual shenanigans. Video referenced: https://youtu.be/bZUZVFZ6UDM?si=Vb7aLf4mqmWRnfIC
Join us as we have a discussion and some laughs with our sweet friends the Meals. In this interview, they describe what it was like for their marriage when AJ left the UPCI, but Eileen stayed. They give valuable advice for couples who are in the same situation they were and tell about God's abundant grace in their relationship.
You asked, we did it. Here is our unfiltered, unedited review of the recent Called to Freedom Conference, plus other topics such as upcoming episodes and just plain shenanigans.
The Gospel is something that sounds so elementary, yet can become unnecessarily complex if we allow it. Join Jereme, Jen, and Jocelynn as we break down what the actual meaning of the Gospel is and how it applies to us today. We also discuss the immediate future of the channel and upcoming episode ideas.
In this second episode of our two part series breaking down the correct view of the Trinity, our guest Jonah McElhaney discusses the Trinity in the Old Testament and how an incorrect view of God can effect every aspect of our lives.
In this episode, we dive deep with our special guest Jonah McElhaney into the myths about Trinitarianism that we were taught growing up in the Oneness Apostolic United Pentecostal Church organization and the reasons we were so frightened to leave our Oneness beliefs. Jonah is a former minister who preached in UPCI churches in his area. He is well educated on this topic and is a seasoned teacher and solid Christian, we are grateful for his input in this episode.
In your church experience, does your church prioritize the importance of the cross, or brush past it putting emphasis on our human experiences? Pull up a chair, grab some coffee, and sit in the office with us as we discuss the importance of the cross, Galatians 2:21, and watch our reactions as we watch one of the worst cases of spiritual abuse we have ever seen. If spiritual abuse is triggering for you, we recommend skipping ahead about five minutes. Link to video clip shown: https://fb.watch/jv4KRA9erv/
Many people find it challenging to make friends when they leave a legalistic church and leave their community behind. (UPCI or others) They feel betrayed and their trust is broken. Jen sits down with Gary's wife Kelly to discuss their friendship that was built during Jen's time of healing and encourage those who just left that things do get better with time.
Join us in this episode where we break down the correct and incorrect definitions of the term, "legalism". How would you know if you attended a legalistic church? Have you ever viewed God as a tyrant, or depended on yourself for your salvation? Gary is a character from Star Wars, and Jen discloses how she still reverts to her old views about God's personality. Lots of information packed in this episode! Called to Freedom Conference link: https://bereanholiness.com/conference/?fbclid=IwAR0J4jCoLWhDrUEta4kai1CbYWtKPklVQYU2wdoNzvZEN7tUUS7En_3FOx4 Link to the Jeff Arnold message mentioned in this episode: https://youtu.be/z0G3_CRGkSc
Over the years of speaking out about the spiritual abuse of the United Pentecostal Church, we have been accused of many things such as "bashing" and "attacking" the organization. This video explains the real reasons why we do what we do, and spoiler alert, it has nothing to do with bashing. Added bonus, Gary and Jereme talk movie reviews. Called to Freedom Conference link: https://bereanholiness.com/conference/
This is the last installment of our three-part series on hair and debunking the UPCI's teachings on the subject. Jen does not know how to pronounce the Greek words, but the spelling and definitions will be available in the video. Does the Bible actually teach women cannot cut their hair at all? Does a woman have power on her head because of her hair? These questions and more are answered as we make our way through 1 Corinthians chapter 11.
Unpopular opinions are flowing in this episode as we continue our discussion about 1 Corinthians chapter 11. Was this chapter meant for all women, all the time? What was Paul's actual purpose and do his ideas transcend culture? Also, Gary renames the UPCI, maybe it will catch on?
This is the first episode of a three part series breaking down 1 Corinthians chapter 11 and the UPCI's common teachings on women's hair. Gary sings, and we may or may not have recorded this episode twice, but we are excited to share! If you have small kiddos around, you may want to be mindful as there are some archaic sexual references made relevant to the times and culture. Links to references mentioned: Original Kim Haney message: https://fb.watch/hbMjZUhlJR/ Mike Winger's video on head coverings: https://youtu.be/AVEbqcCjJ5Y Beth Allison Barr's The Making Of Biblical Womanhood: https://a.co/d/160jkzz
Don't hate on us as we break down what we like and what we don't like about Christmas. Did it really snow on Jesus's Birthday? Were there actually three wise men? What does the "X" in Xmas stand for? A scarecrow in a cucumber field? What is the true meaning of all of this?
Jereme and Gary are left unsupervised as they discuss Paul's strong use of language in Galatians chapter 3. Are we saved by faith or by the law? After we left the United Pentecostal Church, this chapter was super helpful to us in our new found Christian walk. Learn with us as we break down this amazing chapter of the book of Galatians.
How many times have you heard someone throw around the term "reprobate mind" in a legalistic religion such as the United Pentecostal Church? What does this really mean in a Biblical context and how would you know if you had a reprobate mind? Join Jereme and Jen in a brief discussion breaking down this topic.
Have you been in a spiritually abusive situation? How do you know if you have been or are currently in a spiritually abusive situation? Join us as we discuss some basic terms to help recognize and heal from spiritual trauma.
In this episode, we talk about our experiences as parents raising teenagers as well as our own childhoods. Parenting is difficult, and we all strive to be cycle-breakers for the generations to come. Grab some coffee or tea and chat with us as we learn to give ourselves and our parents grace, acknowledge our faults, and provide our kids the professional help to heal from their own trauma. For those of us who raised our kids in a toxic church environment, there is hope and forgiveness.
***Trigger Warning, contains conversations about contemporary views on Hell*** Gary tells us how to explain the concept of eternity to children.... Just kidding. The three of us come to the conclusion we have no idea what we are talking about when it comes to what happens after death. But the beauty of it is, it doesn't matter, and God is bigger than our questions and fears! If talks of the afterlife triggers you, you may want to sit this conversation out.
Join us as we dissect Acts chapter two in a way only we can! Gary is back and we discuss Peter's sermon, speaking in tongues, and the beginnings of the church. Also, things such as ham, beards, and balls of yarn somehow come up in the conversation. I know you're curious now!
Buckle up and grab a drink, this is our last episode in our History of Pentecostalism series. We learn Jereme is a vacation control freak, Jen cries, and it turns out the UPCI isn't exactly the same as it was in the book of Acts. Or is it? We will let you make your own judgment call there. This is episode six of a six part series.
Gary is on vacation this week, join Jereme, Jen, and Jocelynn as we discuss the similarities and differences between the two organizations that formed what is now known as the United Pentecostal Church International. This is episode five of a six part series. Links mentioned in podcast: https://youtu.be/0PPJl2WXCrk The man of the hills, served in the valley: The biography of Clyde J. Haney https://a.co/d/iJcdptT
In this episode, we discuss the Paul Revere style origins of Jesus name baptism for modern-day Pentecostalism. Gary has a revelation about his caffeine habits and all of us are blown away at the fact one of the speakers of an early Pentecostal convention is a woman! This is episode four of a six part series.
In this episode, we dive into the well-known event of the Azusa Street Revival. We chat about how this historical event may have been slightly misrepresented to us in times past and how the preacher would sit around with an actual box on his head. Who does that? This is episode three of a six part series.
Just when you thought things were getting crazy with The Stooges of Early Pentecostalism, Part One, here comes Part Two! Grab some coffee or wine and sit down with us as we chat about the history of Pentecostalism leading up to the infamous Azusa Street Revival. Also, did you know Gary was in a band? He is always full of random surprises! This is episode two of a six part series.
Jereme talks in-depth about the early founders of modern Pentecostalism. Jen and Gary try to follow along and process all of the lies, fraud, and deception of the beginning stages of Pentecostalism as we know it. This is episode one of a six part series.
What better way to introduce Gary to Oneness Pentecostalism than to take him to church? Listen to our conversation as we unpack his thoughts about his first UPC service, identifying as an Apostolic over Christian, and transition to our upcoming series on the roots of Pentecostalism.
Come and chat with us as we discuss the likes of Kenneth Copeland and Benni Hinn. Jen's feelings about DKB may have been brought up as well. Below is the link to the awesome guitar video Gary played at the beginning of the episode. https://youtu.be/0JPRvxTjfOk
Join us as we break down Kim Haney's March 22, 2022 message from a Texas Ladies service. There is so much to unpack here, we had to do a bonus episode! References promised: Responsible Faith YouTube channel-https://www.youtube.com/c/ResponsibleFaith/featured Are We Splitting Hairs? A book by Joel R Chipman- https://www.amazon.com/Are-Splitting-Hairs-Comprehensive-Corinthians/dp/1484918150/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Kim Haney's message in full-https://fb.watch/ccUf6M2JSb/
Come have a cup of coffee with us as we discuss grace, once saved always saved, and other random topics that came up in conversation.
Introduction to Gary and the future of the podcast is discussed.