GracePointe Church '167' Podcast

Statistics felt for many like a class you took in college. Once the concepts started to be grasped, a whole world opened up and suddenly decisions became a little easier to make because there was data to backup the right move and predictions to be made.  Or maybe you were like a lot of us who didn't pass that class and moved on to an applied math course that didn't involve yucky things like numbers.....   In any case, on today's episode Pastor Jason along with Scott and Brittany take a look at some notable research done by the Barna Group, (CLICK HERE FOR LINK) and look at some pertinent questions as we see the church pre and post Covid 19. We believe with everything within us that God is not done with the church but is rather positioning us for greater impact in our communities!  As always, thanks for listening!

Pull up a chair and join us as we jump into a conversation with Russell Clum, our new friend of the GP 167 Podcast. Russell and his wife Emily pursue God’s guiding for a new church start in the heart of the city with their community Church of the City.in downtown Portland which began in 2014.  While the vision has been growing and has been refined over time, Russell is still convinced that this is exactly the kind of church community the city of Portland needs in order for the gospel to flourish here…and he and Emily are committed for the long haul to see how that story develops Join us as we talk about what faith and church look like in the Northwest. What is post-Christian culture and how does it's reality shape how we are to love one another? What are the differences between intent and impact? Why do we confuse them so often? Great questions that make a huge difference in the lives of people in and outside the church!    Feel free to email us at sbrockett@gpointe.com with any topic suggestions or feedback!  You can subscribe to the podcast anywhere you find podcasts! As always, thank you for listening! 

As we near November, the rhetoric surrounding politics in our country has only increased. As followers of Jesus, how are we to interact with politics and those who hold differing opinions regarding all the issues our culture face. ? How do we speak truth while also loving and respecting our neighbor? Buckle up as we take off on the crazy ride of politics and see what scripture has to say regarding our intent around the stress-inducing topic.     Thanks for listening and you can find more of our episodes HERE If you are looking for a good objective news source, 1440 News has been a really great resource for impartial reporting.  You can check it out here.    

Join us as we welcome back a return guest to the podcast: Sid Johnson! As a dedicated musician, pastor, husband, father, and follower of God, Sid brings a wealth of life experience to the subject of racism.  It is an honor to hear from Sid as he tells of his experience with racism from Virginia to New York to Oregon.  Striving to see how God would have us love one another, Sid helps point us in the direction of what it looks like to care for our neighbor.  Thank you for joining us and being a part of the conversation. You can share the podcast with others by sending them here Through out our conversation, we reference Martin Luther King JR and his "Letter from a Birmingham Jail".  Here is a reference link    

Join us as we talk about social and systemic injustice and what it looks like to join the conversation and be a part of the solution. Our guest is Ashley Bell, a Global Outreach Pastor at Cedar Mill Bible Church as well as an author and speaker in the community, who has become a great voice in the discussion of how to engage relationally with the real issues that are facing different communities including the African American community.  An amazing episode that is imperative for all of us as we navigate how to help eradicate hopelessness with the relentless love of Jesus in our areas of influence. Thank you for joining us and being a part of the conversation.    Through out our conversation, we reference Martin Luther King JR and his "Letter from a Birmingham Jail".  Here is a reference link To read some of Ashely's amazing writing, you can find that HERE

Join us as we interview Cory Knowland, a worship pastor, tech director, visual storyteller, guitar/bass/keys/drums player....honestly, the entire episode could just be listing all the things he does! But Cory brings a unique sense of humility to all the different roles he is takes on.  From his early experiences with the church and faith to striving for excellence in music, Cory reminds all of us that we are to lean on God in everything we do.  Such a great reminder for times such as these.  Thanks for listening! As always, you can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here.  We encourage you to subscribe to our podcast here! 

We have all experienced times in our lives where the journey towards excellence is missed by a long distance.  Like someone shut off their GPS and missed their exit by 500 miles kinds of miss.  But in today's episode, Jason and crew will discuss what excellence looks like from a biblical perspective as well as touch on why it is critical in our culture today as we look to teach the next generation.  Oh and also, there are some good stories where we focus on those times when things go south quick! A great episode that we can all find some encouragement in!    Thanks for listening! As always, you can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here.  We encourage you to subscribe to our podcast here! 

Join Jason, Scott, Brittany, as they talk with Next Generations Pastor Michael Beuving on what it means to be outward focused and forward thinking. Too often, we can become focused inward and thinking only of what has already happened. But in our world today, the gospel is made clear when we strive to care for those outside the walls of their organization.  When we think not about ourselves and our time but others and their time, we can truly see God move in big and mighty ways.  This is part of a series that GracePointe has been going through called "This is Us" where we focus on the cultural values that shape GracePointe and the decisions the church makes. Thanks for joining us!    If you want to know more about GracePointe, you can click here As always, thanks for listening and subscribing to the podcast! 

Join Jason Motte and the crew as they talk with Pastor Michael Beuving about what it looks like to be an intergenerational church. They cover why that value is so integral to a community and why it can be difficult to achieve especially in today's culture. But the reward for striving for this value is seeing how generations can impact one another to help develop and impart wisdom and energy to the other! We hope you enjoy this episode as we navigate this pandemic in our communities.  If you have any needs or need to talk with someone, please don't hesitate to reach out at mgp@gpointe.com  As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here.                         

Grace and Truth are the main topics of discussion.  Which is better? Is it a choice to have one or the other? Is being brutally honest actually a good thing? These are just a few of the questions we tackle today as we dive into how being full of Grace AND Truth can shape our decisions for the better. While it isn't easy, striving to have both grace and truth as values will help to navigate the relationships in our lives while honoring God.  As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here.  

And just like that our GP 167 podcast became the GP 168 Podcast because you now have 168 hours in the week to invest in opportunities that will help you strive to thrive in your life and faith journey. Tune in as we talk about the whiplash that the COVID 19 pandemic has caused. From keeping healthy to new tools that help us stay connected in a much more digital world, we hope this episode sheds some light on how to help our community.   Please know that we are praying for you.   We hope you are safe, healthy and making the best of social distancing.  If you have any questions or need help, do not hesitate to reach out by heading to our website at www.gpointe.com or emailing the church at mgb@gpointe.com.  

Our interview with Steve Stevens, a notable author, psychologist, and speaker, is one of our most personally impactful episodes to date! Early in his life, Steve developed a deep curiosity in how people think and relate to each other and it was evident as we discussed ways to care for others who are going through trauma in their lives and mental health.  Every single one of us has or will have a need for help with our mental health and Steve touches on a myriad of ways in which we can help on another overcome hopelessness and seek to make a difference...one person at a time.  This is one you won't want to miss.     As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here.  

 Join us as we interview Rob Hilderbrand, a hockey-loving Canadian who has been a staple in the Northwest as a leader in youth and college ministry as well as a as a Program chair and Assistant Dean at Multnomah University. Rob and his wife, Leslie, have spent their lives working with young people. For more than three decades they have led classes, youth groups, camps, retreats, mission trips and study abroad programs with thousands of students. Having seen the incredible life change that can happen on these trips, and the incredible growth that students can experience learning in community, they began college level educational trips in 2005. Fast forward to now and they are embarking on a new adventure! Rob explains how the Loire Valley Study Abroad is a Christian community of learning that educates and holistically disciples students through Biblical instruction, faculty mentorship, classroom interaction, and study abroad in France.  What an awesome idea!  Listen in as we talk with Rob about what it actually looks like to act on what God is prompting.  While not as cut and dry as some made for tv Christian movies might indicate, walking by faith with all the decisions is a scary, complicate, and beautiful process that reveals just how good God is! This won't be the last time we hear from Rob!    As always thanks for listening.  We are excited about the role the podcast has played in your life and we can't wait to bring you more episodes in 2020.         

You have opened your presents.  The kids are now off playing with their friends.  The guests have gone home but wait....there is one present left under the tree.......it is the gift of one last episode of the GP 167 podcast for this year.  And it is a fun one because it is our Christmas episode!   Jump in with Pastor Jason as well as Scott and Brittany as they open gifts, talk about their favorite presents and enjoy a little laughter during the busy holiday season!  Merry Christmas and have a happy new year!    Thanks for listening. It really means a lot and we look forward to providing more interviews, insight, and hijinks in 2020!  Please email us if you have suggestions for the show such as topics you would like us to cover or people you would like to have on! We look forward to more laughter in the new year.  Until we speak again, may God continue to make His presence known in your life.  Thanks again   GP 167 Podcast.  

We have all been there.  That moment when the motivation is gone.  When we don't feel close to God.  Worship is not the same.  Serving feels like we are going through the motions.  And yet, God continues to relentlessly love us despite this spiritual drought that we feel.  On this episode, Pastor Jason and the crew talk through some practical tips to being a follower of Jesus when we don't feel like doing anything!  Prioritizing and making choices that help maximize our time our just a few of the ways we can get out of the spiritual wasteland we might be trudging through.  A great episode that will hopefully encourage you through whatever season you are in.   As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here.  

As we come to the end of the year, our emails, eyeballs, and emotions are flooded with folks vying for our attention and our resources. Giving back to God because He first gave to us is a critical aspect of walking in faith with God.   Sometimes it is hard to know how best to have our giving line up with our vision for our lives and our community.  Join Jason and the gang as they delve into some tips and tricks to help giving become something that is not just a transaction but an act of worshiping God.   Being intentional in the way that we give of our time, talents, and resources is a way to thrive in our faith journey and we hope that for you as you come to the end of the year.   As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

Tune in this week with Jason and Scott as they dive deep into the world of New York performing arts schools, opera touring companies in Europe and serving in worship ministry.  Who could have done all this? The answer is Sid Johnson who leads the Classic Worship Ministry at Gracepointe Church!  An amazing guy with a heart for the gospel and seeing people come to know Christ, Sid takes us through some of his experiences through out the years. Originally from New York, Sid had a 15-year career in opera in the United States and Europe before devoting himself to church ministry. He is a graduate of Western Seminary, loves being with people, and has a great heart for God. A great interview and one you won't want to miss!    As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here.     

What is it like to experience church as a guest?  On our 25th Episode, Pastor Jason, Scott, and Brittney connect with Don Gulley, the Creative Arts Pastor for Abundant Life Church to hear about how his experience in communicating with graphics and other tools as well as considering how to set up church so it is a great experience for a guest. Don has a wealth of experience working with churches to consider the church experience from parking lot to parking lot.   A great guy with a heart to proclaim the gospel using all the tools available makes for an awesome interview.  Hope you enjoy it and again...thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

Tune in as we talk about what it looks like to follow Christ at our jobs!  Disney would say that we are to whistle while we work but it seems like there should be more to it right? Listen as Pastor Jason along with Scott and Brittney talk about first jobs as well as ways to reflect Jesus as we work...no matter where that might be! We look at a biblical example of someone choosing to follow God while still respecting his employers.  It is a delicate balance but one that results in an awesome opportunity to see God transform lives. As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

Tweets and Likes! The World of Social Media can feel like a fun playground, a jealousy ridden display board, or a crazy torturous echo chamber...often all at the same time depending on how fast you scroll! On today's episode, Jason, Scott and Brittany take on some concepts surrounding the dangers of Social Media.  In our culture today, it is a force to be reckoned with for both positive and negative goals but it is always a good idea to know the dangers of any tool you are about to use.  This is an episode that you will want to buckle up for as we focus on how the message, methods, and mission of our social media use is so important as we seek to eradicate hopelessness in Milwaukie and beyond with the relentless love of Jesus. Thanks for tuning in today!  As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

For many, the bible can seem impossible to understand.  Full of ideas, culture, and characters that seem to be hard to resonate with.  And yet, the Bible is God's word and speaks truth of God contiues to pour out grace and mercy to mankind. How do we get an overview of God's story of love and grace? Enter the Bible Survey!  Join us as we get a chance to hear from Dr. Bert Downs, former seminary president of Western Seminary and vice president of Walk Thru the Bible Ministries. We get to hear his heart behind the Bible Survey, a class that helps look at the big picture of Scripture! It will enhance your Bible study and help you understand the articles in a Bible commentary by giving you an understanding of the structure and major themes of the books of the Bible.  More about Bert!  A proverb in the Downs household is that Bert still works for everyone he ever worked for . . . and that’s very close to the truth. At various times a high school teacher and principal, a football coach, the vice president for Walk Thru the Bible Ministries, a WTB seminar instructor, a seminary staff and faculty member, a seminary president, the executive director of a conference center, a regional exec for a church association, a seminary chancellor and an interim pastor multiple times over, Bert still periodically engages in all of those things, often with the original groups he started with! Yes, multi-faceted and multi-engaged would be good ways of describing Bert’s career both in and out of the ministry arena.  You can find out more about Bert and the Bible Survey here!    As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

Join Scott as he interviews Ben and Janet Burns.  These lovely folks are leading a parenting class at GracePointe starting September 18th. From their background in college and family ministry to why parenting is both challenging and essential to our community, this interview is one you won't want to miss.  Even better, sign up to take the parenting class with them! You can do that here!!!  Ben and Janet Burns have been on staff with Cru for 33 years. As marriage and family educators they seek to help others understand and live out the biblical picture of marriage and family in their homes, churches and neighborhoods. Their role in the Great Commission with Cru is to partner with parents and local churches to raise and release the next generation of cultural leaders to reflect Jesus and the reality of the gospel to others. They do this by speaking at Weekend to Remember marriage conferences, Countdown parenting seminars, College Life 101 live seminars and YouTube series and Western Seminary. They also have an extensive ministry coaching couples and individuals.  As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

Join us this week as we find out all the fun things that are happening with the next generation! Jen Sadlier and Lauren Knox are brand new to the team but have been serving at GracePointe and in our community in big and mighty ways for years! We are so excited to hear more about their story of faith and how they are using their gifts to help impact our kiddos in our own homes and in our community. We also seek to divine the answers behind the questions regarding potlucks and mascots.  This is an episode for those who are courageous!  Jen and Lauren are awesome folks and we were so thrilled to have a chance to sit down with them and hear their heart for helping teach our children as they take their first steps in their faith journey with God.    If you are interested in helping serve in the kid's ministry, you can email JEN SADLIER or LAUREN KNOX You can sign up for the Parenting Class with Ben and Janet Burns starting on September 18th by clicking here.    As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church on our website!    

Andrew and Rebecca LaSavio have been endorsed by WorldVenture and are serving in Albania. Andrew's focus is in Korçë with the Kenedi Foundation, which shares the love of Christ in tangible ways to the handicapped, the elderly, unloved children and the hurting. Rebecca is working to re-establish vision at the Children's Day Center and Girls' Safe Home, which she started in 2003 during the four years she spent in Albania with WorldVenture.The LaSavios' have dove into Albanian life to support and expand the existing church and its ministries. They also are witnessing how the children they work with grow and change, and equipping national leadership to deepen that ministry. Andrew and Rebecca work closely with existing leadership and prayerfully seek God's long-term call on their lives. Join Jason, Scott and Brittany as they interview Andrew LaSavio and learn about the great work that he and his wife Rebecca are doing to help eradicate hopelessness in Albania!      Kenedi Foundation website for general overview of ministries: www.kenedifoundation.org   Our personal support page at WorldVenture www.worldventure.com/lasavio   Donation page for the Day Center and Safe Home ministries www.worldventure.com/kenedikids   As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

As the world gets smaller and smaller, we are required to interact with others more and more all the time! From school and jobs to families and churches, there is an increased need for the ability to recognize, understand, and interact with a wide range of personality types. But what personality type is which? Am I am Retriever? Type A? Am I a processor? Perhaps a weird hybrid that ends up looking like an platypus! And what about those around me? In any case, our culture is desperate to see folks who are aware of who they are and how they can flourish in working with others.  One way that we can discover new insights into our personalities is through the Enneagram! The Enneagram of Personality, or simply the Enneagram, is a categorization tool that classifies human personality into a typology of nine interconnected personality types. Join Jason, Scott, Brittany, and a few new folks as they dive in to their own Enneagram types as well as ways that knowing yourself can help you thrive in your life and faith journey!    Take the Enneagram Test yourself and see what type you are! You can take a free test by clicking here!   As always, thanks for listening! Check out our other episodes here.  You can find out more about GracePointe Church by clicking here. 

  Gracepointe church had the opportunity to send over a team of Young Adults to Tegucigalpa, Honduras! They partnered with an amazing ministry that serves impoverished children as well as strives to equip and train children on how to rise up out of poverty. From leading classes on self-defense to building bunk beds for children; the team had a chance to experience all that Honduras and missions has to offer!  Join Jason and Scott as they interview a few young hipsters from the Young Adults team that traveled to Honduras. Their experiences interacting with local children and serving needs will leave you wondering if maybe missions might be something for you! Be ready to laugh and, if we are honest, be frightened!  Dive into the mind of the millennial if you dare!    As always, thanks for listening! You can check out our upcoming podcasts here.  If you would like to come to Gracepointe church, you are more than welcome!     

The symbolism of Revelation has puzzled readers for centuries. Every generation falls prey to extreme views of interpretation. Yet Revelation is a profound work of New Testament theology and warrants a close study. The Apostle John expects and prepares believers to follow the Lamb through suffering and possible martyrdom. The problem is centered on what the symbols mean. Are they literal? Are they symbolic? Jump in with Jason, Scott and Brittany on the GP 167 Podcast as they hear from Dr. Michael Kuykendall, professor of New Testament studies at Gateway Seminar, who has authored a new book Lions, Locusts and the Lamb:Interpreting Key Images in the Book of Revelation.  A fascinating dive into a complicated book that is sure to help guide you and the reading of God's word.    As always, thanks for listening! You can find the podcast on Itunes, Spotify and many other podcast sites. You can also subscribe here To find out more about Gracepointe Church, please go to our website!      

Episode 15: Join Jason, Brittany and Scott as they dive into the awesome event that is coming up on August 4th from 11-4 at Gracepointe Church called Car Free/Care Free. From the event to why serving our community is so important for our post-Christian culture, this is an episode you don't want to miss.  Oh...and yeah...we take a moment to do some awesome Howard Dean impressions.   Carefree Sunday temporarily opens almost four miles of streets to people for the portion of a day by closing them to cars. The result is hundreds of people biking, walking, rolling, and connecting with the community. Gracepointe Church is committed to serving God and loving our community so we are joining the event by opening up our property and having a plethora of fun things for folks to do!  Bouncy Houses FREE BBQ Skateboard Competition Live Music We would love for you to give a rebel Howard Dean yell and come on out for an amazing time of fun as we join our community!  As always, thanks for listening!  You can find the podcast on Itunes, Spotify and many other podcast sites.  You can also subscribe here To find out more about Gracepointe Church, please go to our website!   

This weeks episode dives right in to some heavy subjects as we hear the stirring story of Josh LaPine and his journey through witchcraft to seeking God and finding healing through Jesus Christ.  It is an amazing story and one that we hope will bring you hope this week!    We do however want you to know that this is NOT an episode for children and we would recommend you listen without young ears present!    As always, thanks for listening!  You can find the podcast on Itunes, Spotify and many other podcast sites.  You can also subscribe here To find out more about Gracepointe Church, please go to our website!     

  Episode 13:  Worship is not something we do once a week but rather a lifestyle expressed through service and praise to God. Today we look at several Old Testament words that speak to holistic expressions of worship and how we can implement those through out our lives as we seek to worship God.  As always, thanks for listening!  You can find the podcast on Itunes, Spotify and many other podcast sites.  You can also subscribe here To find out more about Gracepointe Church, please go to our website! 

Episode 12: Whether it is at home, a job, or in a volunteer or vocational ministry role, leadership is more important than ever. But, it is also harder than ever. Today, we discuss word pictures that will help you lead in every aspect of your life like never before.   As always, thanks for listening!  You can find the podcast on Itunes, Spotify and many other podcast sites.  You can also subscribe here

Episode 11: Laurie Cardoza Lopez is the only missionary serving in the great nation of Colombia with WorldVenture. She joins us to talk about her work, how God called her there, and the great needs and obstacles that must be overcome to bring the Gospel to South America.   World Venture: https://www.worldventure.com/ As always, thanks for listening!  You can find the podcast on Itunes, Spotify and many other podcast sites.  You can also subscribe here    

Episode 10: T.J. Saling Caldwell is the founder of Apple of His Eye Charity, a non-profit mission organization bringing the Gospel to India and Rwanda. She tells us about her journey from being a mom, to a widow, to a person helping change the lives of children in two of the most unreached nations in the world. Apple of His Eye Charity: www.appleofhiseyecharity.org Cycle for a Cause: www.Cycleforacause.org   As always, we are available on iTunes and Spotify. Feel free to subscribe to our podcast here and thanks for listening!

  Episode 9: Crystal Adams is our children’s ministry director. She joins us today to talk about kids and the exciting upcoming opportunity we have to reach out and eradicate hopelessness in our community through VBS. VBS: https://gpointe.com/vbs   As always, we are available on iTunes and Spotify.  Feel free to subscribe to our podcast here and thanks for listening! 

Episode 8: Michael Culpepper has experienced an incredible journey. From experiencing the pain of divorce, to battling addiction, to navigating life as a Christian and business owner, he has come a long way. Michael joins us to talk about this journey, what he learned, and to give hope to anyone affected by addiction.   If you are experiencing hopelessness from addictions or divorce and would like to talk with someone, please don't hesitate to call us at Gracepointe at 503-654-9593.  Feel free to subscribe to our podcast here and thanks for listening! 

Episode 7: Over Spring Break 2019, a group of high school students and leaders spent their vacation time serving vulnerable children in Morelia Mexico. They join us today to share about their experience and how it changed their lives. None of the youth were hurt in the making of this Podcast!  NOE International: https://www.noeinternational.org/ GP Student Ministries: https://gpointe.com/students Feel free to subscribe to our podcast here and thanks for listening! 

Episode 6: Love One Laundry is battling hopelessness one load of laundry at a time. They have been doing this by helping low-income families and individuals wash their clothes since 2003. Kim Campbell is a volunteer who coordinates people to serve at the Milwaukie area laundry mat locations. She joins us to share powerful stories about how this initiative is impacting families in our community and how you can get involved in making a difference one load at a time. Love One Website https://laundrylove.org/ Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/133777498?ref=em-share Want to get involved? Let us know. Contact GP at mgp@gpointe.com   If you want to get the next episode please subscribe to our podcast! 

Episode 5: Embrace Oregon is an organization that encourages churches, businesses, and individuals to embrace vulnerable children and families by standing in the gap while they navigate some of the most difficult times in their lives. Vennissa Gerberg is an Embrace representative and she joins us to talk about what we all can do to make a difference today.Embrace Website: https://embraceoregon.org/   Want to get involved? Let us know. Contact GP at mgp@gpointe.com   Please subscribe to our podcast HERE!    

Episode 4: Elise Eng serves hospitality coordinator at Gracepointe. Elise will fill us in about a lot of exciting changes that are taking place around Gracepointe that are aimed at helping us better welcome guests into our community.

Episode 3: Greg Harris, principal of Rowe Middle School in Milwaukie, has a passionfor helping students overcome the odds and achieve their best. Greg will help usexplore what is happening in his school, the challenges educators and students face,and what it looks like to lock arms with teachers to help kids, parents, and familiesin our community.

Episode 2: Nicole Fischer has experienced some significant set backs in her life including a devastating divorce and the tragic loss of her second husband. Her story about how far God has brought her will encourage you in whatever you are facing!

The first episode of GracePointe Church's '167' Podcast.  Did you know there are 168 hours in week? If you are in community of faith you might attend a church for an hour...once a week.  What about the other 167 hours? Here is the Gracepointe 167 podcast, a podcast all about helping you strive to thrive in your life and faith journey during the other 167 hours a week when you aren’t able to gather with your faith family.