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What is an Instinctual Stack? Do you know yours? We all have three instincts. None of us are absent one. However, one does tend to be dominant. But what are instincts and how do they influence how each type shows up in the world? In today's episode, we revisit our conversation with Elan Benami, creator of the EnneaApp and author of Enneagram Patterns & Poetics, to provide you with a great overview of Instincts, Subtypes, and the Instinctual Stack and how they can play out in your personal and professional life. About Elan: Elan is an LPC with a MA in Transpersonal Counseling Psychology and BA in Philosophy. In addition to his own private counseling practice, Elan is the Clinical Director of People House - a non-profit that provides affordable counseling in Colorado. Elan was introduced to the Enneagram in 2008 by his first therapist. He then did intense studying with Lori Ohlson, who was his supervisor. Claudio Naranjo was Lori's primary teacher, so there is a deep kinship with his work. Other major Enneagram teachers who have shaped Elan include Helen Palmer, Russ Hudson, Don Riso, and Sandra Maitri. Elan and Lori Ohlson have co-facilitated many Enneagram classes/workshops, most of them in the narrative tradition. Through Lori's Enneagram material (of over 25 years of teaching the Enneagram), Elan created the EnneaApp, initially for the purpose of having something to quickly reference between sessions. Through the years, he has adapted the content to be more reflective of his own experience while also preserving Lori's lineage. The app has over 1.5 million downloads.
As 1's, we want to do good things in the world, we want to redeem things in the world. We want so much to bring goodness and rightness to the world… Stay with us during this episode, we will give an overview on 1's, including the positives and negatives and helpful tips on how to see what's right, before seeing what's wrong. Things to consider if you're raising a 1. Daily prayer recommendation for 1's: The Serenity Prayer (2 part of prayer): “Living one day at a time, enjoying one moment at a time, accepting hardships as the pathway to peace. Taking as he did this sinful world as it is, not as I would have it. Trusting he will make all things right.” Book recommendations mentioned in this episode: 1. The Worry Free Parent by Sissy Goff (Chapter 3) https://www.amazon.com/Worry-Free-Parent-Living-Confidence-Your/dp/0764241028 2. Raising Worry Free Girls by Sissy Goff https://www.amazon.com/Raising-Worry-Free-Girls-Daughter-Stronger/dp/0764233408 . . . . . . Owen Learns He Has What it Takes: A Lesson in Resilience Lucy Learns to Be Brave: A Lesson in Courage More Links: Sign up to receive the monthly newsletter to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at raisingboysandgirls.com https://www.raisingboysandgirls.com/ . . . . . If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our Advertise with us form. A special thank you to our sponsors: JOLIE: Jolie will give you your best skin & hair guaranteed. Head to jolieskinco.com/RBG to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping. EVERYDAY DOSE: Get 45% off your first subscription order of 30-servings of Coffee+ or Bold+. You'll also receive a starter kit with over $100 in free gifts including a rechargeable frother and gunmetal serving spoon by going to everydaydose.com/RGB or entering RGB at checkout. You'll also get FREE gifts throughout the year! DOSE: Save 30% on your first month of subscription by going to dosedaily.co/RBG or entering RBG at checkout. QUINCE: Give your summer closet an upgrade—with Quince. Go to Quince.com/rbg for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. THRIVE MARKET: Skip the junk without overspending. Head over to ThriveMarket.com/rbg to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift. NIV APPLICATION BIBLE: Save an additional 10% on any NIV Application Bible and NIV Application Commentary Resources by visiting http://FAITHGATEWAY.COM/NIVAB and using promo code RBG. BOLL & BRANCH: Feel the difference an extraordinary night's sleep can make with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at Bollandbranch.com/rbg. Exclusions apply. KA'CHAVA: Make your day iconic with Ka'Chava. Go to Ka'Chava and use code RBG for 15% off your next order. That's Ka'Chava, code RBG for 15% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Send us a textIn this fourth conversation of Wholehearted Reflections: 5 Clarity Calls for Your Soul, Amy invites you to pause and consider what it might look like to let yourself be supported.Through an honest story about learning to receive love from others, she explores how even Jesus chose to walk in community, and why letting others help is not a weakness, but a holy act.You'll also hear how each Enneagram Type can practice receiving and belonging in ways that bring healing and connection.Take a deep breath, open your hands, and remember, you were never meant to do this alone.Book your clarity call: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksLearn more about the Wholehearted Identity Journey Small Group: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HtCJJLUyzPJIr7lYBionrr5irRnQL_sw/view?usp=sharingEmail wholeheartedenneagram@gmail.com with your questions!Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizRESOURCES FOR YOU: Book a High-Value Clarity Call with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Wholehearted Enneagram Coachinghttps://bit.ly/SWcoachingcollectiveEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideThe Real History of the Enneagram Course(use code AMY for 40% OFF)https://bit.ly/EnneagramHistoryShould Christians Use the Enneagram? (Amy's book)https://amzn.to/3VB9PrxConnect with Amy:IGWebsite
Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee! 4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes! Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being married to an 8. "I mistyped my own teen angst as a 4. But, since it was a mistype, it wasn't useful." - JE All romance lovers need to check out her Lucky Lovers of London series, and you can learn more about Jess at jesseverlee.com
Send us a textWhat story are you telling yourself right now?In this episode, Amy Wicks explores how to move from the old story of fear, control, or limitation into a new story of courage and trust.Through her own story of saying “yes” to God's invitation, she reminds you that you don't have to have all the answers to take your next faithful step. Includes insights for all Nine Enneagram Types.Book your clarity call: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksLearn more about the Wholehearted Identity Journey Small Group: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HtCJJLUyzPJIr7lYBionrr5irRnQL_sw/view?usp=sharingEmail wholeheartedenneagram@gmail.com with your questions!Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizRESOURCES FOR YOU: Book a High-Value Clarity Call with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Wholehearted Enneagram Coachinghttps://bit.ly/SWcoachingcollectiveEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideThe Real History of the Enneagram Course(use code AMY for 40% OFF)https://bit.ly/EnneagramHistoryShould Christians Use the Enneagram? (Amy's book)https://amzn.to/3VB9PrxConnect with Amy:IGWebsite
Ever share a vulnerable request with your spouse and get nothing back? Feel like you're the only one initiating, planning, or keeping the spark alive? In this midweek mini, we explore the exhausting dynamic of “auditioning” in relationships - whether with partners, friends, or family. Learn how your Enneagram type and instinctual variant create different relationship needs, why anxious attachment patterns and a strong sexual instinct can make us work overtime for connection. We also share practical tips for protecting your energy without shutting down and without overwhelming your partner. If you've ever felt like you're performing for connection rather than experiencing it, this episode is for you! Watch on YouTube! The wonderful and inspiring Soul on Fire Movie airs this weekend with some of our E + M community as extras and friends of those in the true story! Award winning cast and great message! Check it out here! https://soulonfiremovie.com/ The EnneaSummit on MidLife and Beyond is here! Sign up free here or for the upgraded plan here: https://www.tylerzach.com/midlife/enneasummit?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tylerzach.com%2Fa%2F2148178305%2FLS2nNmzL Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Leave Christa a podcast question anonymously by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Folks, when we began dreaming about the Parenting Personalities series, we had a lot of fun ideas about what we'd hoped to cover. The central idea for the two of us was that we would use this incredibly valuable tool of the Enneagram that we use in the everyday of our work at Daystar. As a foundational piece of this Parenting Personality series. So we'd been holding on to a little surprise for quite some time. We had the chance to fly to Dallas,TX and interview our favorite Enneagram teachers and spend time in their company learning as we always do, when we're in their company. Suzanne and Reverend Joseph Stabile, who we love dearly and have learned so much from. And we got a chance to sit down and first hear them talk about how they developed life in the Trinity Ministries and learned the Enneagram. How they found their way to this tool. And then we traveled through every number and talk about the Enneagram and parenting. And it is such a rich, valuable conversation that we'd been so excited to share with you. We've been holding on to this for some time. And hang on until the end, because after we travel through the numbers we will spend some time at the end of the conversation talking about spiritual practices and disciplines for the numbers. You're going to love this conversation with our delightful and wise friends, Suzanne and Joe Stabile! To learn more about the work they're doing visit: Website: https://www.lifeinthetrinityministry.com Podcast: The Enneagram Journey Follow Suzanne Stabile on Instagram For Suzanne Stable book resources, visit Website: https://suzannestabile.com/ . . . . . . Owen Learns He Has What it Takes: A Lesson in Resilience Lucy Learns to Be Brave: A Lesson in Courage More Links: Sign up to receive the monthly newsletter to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at raisingboysandgirls.com . . . . . If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our Advertise with us form. OUR PLACE: Stop cooking with toxic cookware, and upgrade to Our Place today. Visit fromourplace.com/RBG and use code RBG for 10% off sitewide. https://fromourplace.com/?_ab=0&_fd=0&_sc=1 HIYA HEALTH: Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/RBG. https://hiyahealth.com/products/kids-daily-essential?rfsn=7036735.e2624b QUINCE: Give your summer closet an upgrade—with Quince. Go to Quince.com/rbg for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. https://www.quince.com/women/best-sellers?utm_source=veritone&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=rbg THRIVE MARKET: Skip the junk without overspending. Head over to ThriveMarket.com/rbg to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift. https://thrivemarket.com/l/seasonal-d2m?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=Raising%20Boys%20and%20Girls%20Podcast%2011&utm_campaign=gift&utm_content=default&ccode=bdg60fogwp&ccode_force=1 NIV APPLICATION BIBLE: Save an additional 10% on any NIV Application Bible and NIV Application Commentary Resources by visiting http://FAITHGATEWAY.COM/NIVAB and using promo code RBG. https://faithgateway.com/collections/niv-application-bible-companion-resources BOLL & BRANCH: Feel the difference an extraordinary night's sleep can make with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at Bollandbranch.com/rbg. Exclusions apply. https://www.bollandbranch.com/ KA'CHAVA: Make your day iconic with Ka'Chava. Go to kachava.com and use code RBG for 15% off your next order. That's kachava.com, code RBG for 15% off. https://www.kachava.com/home-new Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Part 2 of podcast guest Dr. Lauryn Brunclik (of She Slays the Day podcast fame) and her conversation with Kiera. In this follow-up to Becoming Business Savvy with a Clinician-First Mindset, the pair discusses seeking other revenue streams to obtain financial freedom. The chat includes fixing your pricing structure, living below your means, understanding the spender and saver mindsets, time management, and more. Episode resources: Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Transcript: The Dental A Team (00:00) Hello, Dental A Team listeners, this is Kiera and welcome back to part two of my chat. If you liked part one, you are going to absolutely love this. I am so excited and I can't wait to dive right in. Kiera Dent (00:10) Lauryn, I'm very curious. Like you've talked about it at length. Like what do people do? Like what's the how, how do we get into this? How do we have multiple streams because agreed all eggs in one basket? gosh. It's, ⁓ to me, that's like just a ticking time bomb. Like one bad day, one bad patient, one bad procedure. Like it's just going to explode because you're sitting like you're sitting on the edge of fear all the time to where you are in like cortisol adrenaline, like you are pumping. And then what you do is you go into complete shutdown because you can't handle it anymore. So your body and your system literally like just shuts down on you. You become apathetic to life. Dr. Lauryn B (00:23) Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (00:44) things aren't exciting for you anymore. You become very numb to walking through the world. And it's like, I feel like the world of color goes into very like gray. It's very subtle. It's like, it's, there's no, there's no life left. It's just, are living life, but you're not actually being and living day in, out. So what are some tacticals? Like I'm so curious. I love to hear that. Dr. Lauryn B (01:04) Well, so, I mean, ultimately what you have to, I'm no cashflow expert. My husband would like laugh, not, he wouldn't laugh. He'd just be like, what's she gonna say right now? So like cashflow will multiply the more you start putting your money to work, okay? So it's very, very, step one is simple. It's exactly what you said. You have to have cashflow coming from your clinic. Kiera Dent (01:14) okay. Dr. Lauryn B (01:33) You have to. Like, you need to spend less money than you are bringing in. Okay? Kiera Dent (01:42) Ooh, love that. Ding, ding. All right, great. Got it, team. Got it all. Dr. Lauryn B (01:45) Like, so it's it's simple. what did you say? Like you said, there's only three ways to make it happen. Like lower your overhead. Yep. Yep. See more people. Yep. Kiera Dent (01:50) There are, either cut your costs, increase what you're producing. like for how many patients you're seeing and or collections, because a lot of times you're producing enough, but we're not collecting the money that we're actually producing. that then costs, people are have no money. And I'm like, you have 500,000 sitting in your AR that's not collected. So you actually have money. You just have a broken system of how to collect it. And to your point, my husband said this very early on when I started that company, he said, I care, don't lose money. He was like, yeah, I'm not going to give you any rules, any parameters. He's like, just don't lose money because that's going to cause a lot of strain on us. And I thought about that a lot. It's like, ⁓ I guess that's a great, a great plan. Like it's really been a good thought for me. But it's like, if you are going to lose money on having a business, go be an associate for someone else. Like it's a hobby at that point. It's not a business. So I'm like, if you're not going to have your business make money for you, like truly no judgment. Dr. Lauryn B (02:24) Thanks, husband. Yes. Kiera Dent (02:44) go honestly be an associate, go work for someone else so you're taking home a paycheck. When owners are working for themselves and making less than they are as an associate, I'm like, we have a big problem here. And now you're mad because you got way more problems. You can't just clock in, clock out and leave for the day. And I'm like, that's actually not a business. That's a hobby. And it's a bad hobby. You have no freedom. No, it's delusional. No. Dr. Lauryn B (02:57) Mm-hmm. And they're like, but I have the freedom when I'm the owner. You don't have freedom? can't afford a vacation. what? You have no freedom. Kiera Dent (03:11) Stop lying to yourself just because you own a business. People are like, I wanted this texture, have more time. And I'm like, yeah, tell me how that's going for you. Probably not great. All right, so we gotta have a business that actually cash flows. Simple stuff. Dr. Lauryn B (03:16) How's that working for you? Yeah. Yes, so step one is very simple, but not is you have to fix the pricing structure, the collections, your payroll blow. You need to look at the profit margins of your clinic. Very easy, very difficult, but very easy. Kiera Dent (03:37) And they're industry specific too. I don't know how it is in chiropractic, but I know in like dentistry, we say right now, even with all the things like I want 30%, we're talking all things, fringe benefits, 401k. Like 30 % for payroll, 25 to 30 is about average. And we aim for, I don't know how it is in chiropractic, but I aim for a 50%, not including doctor pay, 50 % overhead in dental practices, 30 % of doctor pay, because I'm like, that's what you're gonna get paid as an associate. It's like, let's at least pay you that. Dr. Lauryn B (03:45) No, that's pretty yeah, that's pretty healthy. ⁓ Kiera Dent (04:04) And then hopefully we've got a 20 % profit, but that profit debt services click in and that's a real fun zone and taxes. Like I love it. No, you're not getting your W two people are not taking taxes out. You own this business. All that money comes to you. So do not get trapped in that like tax trap. but like, like that's a very simple formula and you look, what is my supplies? What are my rent? Like, what are all those things? And if you figure out the benchmarks, then you know, which one am I bleeding money on quickly fix that hole. So we stopped bleeding it again. It seems so hard. And you and I are on the other side of that equation saying, no, actually it's like real simple. You just look at it real quick, figure out what it is. You can build your practice to support whatever numbers you need, or we cut. Usually it's easier to increase production and collections than it is to cut. But a lot of people are just overspending in ridiculous ways that I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like I have a practice, I looked at their numbers. They shouldn't giggle. I did giggle, because I was shocked. They're like, here, we have no money. And I was like, all right, send me your P &L. Let's take a look at it. So I did. Year to date, they produced 528,000. So they're doing about 85,000 per month is what I calculated when I ran the numbers. But when I looked at their take-home pay, they're taking home, so it's 528. I'm super happy for them. Like don't, there's no judgment on that. They're taking home 250,000 of that 528 is going to the doctor, which again, I'm happy that they're taking home the money. But what's happening is the practice is not producing enough for that. They're running all their kids through it. They're running their cars through it. They're running everything through it, which again is not a bad thing. But if you don't have cash in your business to hire people, I was like, we're a little off on the percentages. Dr. Lauryn B (05:37) Yeah. One of my favorite things to teach people is because people are like, I just want to learn tax strategy. I want to learn tax strategy, tax strategy. And you're like, okay, here's the thing about tax strategy is you can only do tax strategy. Can't see I'm doing air quotes here. If you have money that you don't want to give the government, if you are spending Kiera Dent (05:47) you Mm-hmm. Air quotes, I see them. it. Dr. Lauryn B (06:06) much as you make and the government's like, yeah, you're good. You don't know anything. Like there's no strategy to be had. Strategy can only apply to profits. you know, like to money you've made. So, so that's where it's like, okay, I get that you really want tax strategy, but like you're, you don't need strategy yet. You just need to create more. Kiera Dent (06:09) There is no tech strategy. ⁓ That is a tech strategy. No. Yes. You just need money to then pay taxes on. Then we can talk about what it's gonna be. Yes. Dr. Lauryn B (06:37) Yes, then we can talk strategy. But yeah, so like that's where it starts. The next hard part, and this is where I kind of touched on like, we went into this career because we believed this career was gonna take care of us while we took care of other people. And so everybody's got a little different version of what that means. ⁓ What car they think they should be driving. Kiera Dent (06:42) That's a point. Ready. Dr. Lauryn B (07:06) once they have made it, what ⁓ their house situation should look like, how many vacations, their spouse, if they're buying their spouse, designer bags and things like that. Like we have in our head once we make it, what life will look like. And so after you fix your cashflow thing, the next thing is like, you gotta kind of continue to live below your means for a while. Because if all of a sudden you've fixed your profit margins and you have an extra $30,000 flowing into bank accounts a month that does not have a job, like, you're just like, we're gonna move into a bigger clinic, we're gonna hire another doctor, we're gonna do this. And all of a sudden that... Kiera Dent (07:58) Let's go! Dr. Lauryn B (08:04) that potential, but like you have to have money in excess to build wealth upon. If you fix the first problem, which is we don't have enough money, okay great, now you have enough money, and then instead of building wealth, you buy a Birkin, which I still keep sending my husband all of the memes and reels that like Birkins are apparently, you know, they are also appreciating, they're beating the S &P. So I'm just saying maybe a Birkin was a bad example because that would be an investment. ⁓ Kiera Dent (08:36) See? I why not? think there's a lot we could probably justify in the investment realm. Like it's fine. I'm here for it. Dr. Lauryn B (08:46) Right, right. But no, you know, if it's like one of those things where if you just lifestyle inflate after you fixed your cashflow issue, what's going to happen is, is you're going to still be, you're going to have like golden handcuffs where you're like, well, yeah, the clinic is bringing in 1.2 and like, yeah, I do keep 350 of that, but I still. like I'm paying off my student, because your student loan payment now is increasing and like this and like your mortgage and all of this stuff. And you're gonna, you have the potential if you're not careful to feel just as squeezed financially, even though you've gone to the next level of salary and income, but you can still feel that exact same financial scare. And so like that's another thing where it's like, okay, you have to figure out, the balance for you and your spouse because like my husband, ⁓ my husband is definitely, so this is from Garrett Gunderson. He's a really great financial wealth advisor. don't know if he's in your guys's world. Yes. Okay. Yes. So he was on my podcast and he was talking about how basically within all the Kiera Dent (09:53) I love him. Definitely. We love him. Dr. Lauryn B (10:04) that he's coached people through, there's basically, he used a different word, but right now I'll just call it the the saver and the spender. Okay. Now the spender tends to be the visionary, the CEO. It tends to be the person that's like taking the risks to build the things. They're like, we had a record year, we're reward ourselves, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, life is fun, this is great, this is like a... And then they often marry a ⁓ saver that is just like... I don't need all of that. I don't need another vacation. I don't need a fancier car. I don't need this. ⁓ And it can actually make them very uncomfortable that, you know, so my husband is, we'll call it saver. ⁓ And we go, I mean, our travel budget a year is insane. we should definitely be putting that towards crypto and like buying a duplex and like building more. But Kiera Dent (10:57) you. But why? But why? Dr. Lauryn B (11:04) If someone told me like, no, no, no, here's the plan. You get one trip a year and then we're gonna just like all of this money and then you can start around 45, like, know, and then at 50, it'll open up a little bit more. Like, I'd like, well, that's no fun. I don't want that. And so you have to figure out, because there's a ditch on both sides of the road, right? And so you have to figure out like, when do you want to retire? Kiera Dent (11:28) Mm-hmm. Dr. Lauryn B (11:33) Like what is that number? What is that freedom number? How much money do you need coming in in like passive investments? Like how much do you need your crypto portfolio to be doing? Like your real estate portfolio. What's that number of monthly income or annual income? And when do you want to get there by? And this is going to be so dependent on whoever you're talking to. if you're 50 and you're like, I want to get there by 55. and you're starting, not great. Like, yeah, okay, you know what? Your travel budget, you just need to not worry about that for five years. Like, you got some work to do. But like, if you're sitting here at 35 and you're like, I'd like to retire by 50, and like, I still wanna take our kids on some vacations, but I do think we should be, you know, then you just gotta pick where are you pinching pennies? Like, because you gotta pinch them somewhere. So like, maybe it's... not designer handbag season. Maybe it's not getting the newest vehicle. Maybe you'd rather live in a bigger house, but drive a more reasonable car. Whatever it is, maybe you have no problem giving up vacations, but you need that pool in your backyard. Again, there's a ditch on both sides. think that as this couple, you need to come together and figure out. that equation where even after you're getting some of these doctor luxuries that you've worked hard for, there's still money left over that is being invested wisely. Kiera Dent (13:13) love Lauryn that you talked about Garrett Gunderson and I love that there's the saver and the spender in every relationship because this happens like it's a real thing. ⁓ And I love that you talk about like, okay, one step one is like, you got to make money and you got to keep the money. So it's like, make the money and keep the money. I have like, okay, if we could just follow that. Jocko Willings, he's got a quote. This is like discipline equals freedom. And it sits in my kitchen, which I think is a very smart place to stick this sign. I see it all the time. And I'm like, that really is step one is like discipline on this. Dr. Lauryn B (13:28) Make the money, keep the money. Kiera Dent (13:43) And I think that there's like, one of our consultants, says, choose your hard. And I think about this, like both sides have a hard, like spending all the money has a hard of like being broke. Saving the money has the hard of you've got to actually put like parameters in place. So both have it. But for me, I'd rather sleep at night knowing I've got money in the bank rather than like sitting there wondering how I'm going to make payroll. Like to me, that's the hard I would rather choose. I would not rather not choose the other side. So I'm going to be disciplined there. And then, I really started working on and I heard at a conference about like just an easy way. Cause my husband, I'm the spender. He's the saver. And it's really thrilling for me because I felt annoyed. I felt like I was dragging him like an anchor. Like we were going on vacation. We're buying the cars and like, don't like cut my wind out of my sails. Like I was so angry about it. So we actually had to make a vision board of both of us. Like what are his dreams and what are my dreams? And we like co put it up on the wall. It literally sits in our bedroom. And it was one of the best things I ever did because he wasn't able to see what inspires me and what I'm excited about what what's important to me. And I was able to see what's important to him. We also figured out like what's our BAM, our bare ACE minimum as a couple and where we want that. And then when you're talking about like the savings, I really found this awesome principle where it's kind of like, ultimately, what does it actually cost you to get to financial freedom? And when I did this exercise and I do it with a lot of clients, you can actually break it down. like, what does that like, bougie, whatever life you want that to look like, what does that look like? What's your mortgage? What's your HOA? What's the internet? What's the utilities like? What's our groceries? What's our food bill? What's our children bill? Like how many cars do we have on this? And like literally build that out to what's like my highest end. And then you actually scale it back down to basically like, what's my security bucket? Like for me to just survive, like you said, like the monks, like what is it for me? Like scrap it all down. Let's go back to dental school. Let's go back to chiropractic school. Like when I was at my like most broke, but I could scrap like you guys, can top around and like a boss, like I know I could get through. So like, what is my like minimum amount? Then what I do, so basically taking that all the way up to my financial freedom, like where I've got money making money, it's a money making machine for me. And then how do I actually break that down? So I've got security, then I've got like growth, then I've got independence, and then I've got freedom. And then beyond that are like your prosperity and your legacy buckets. And so when I look at this, it's like, you basically just chunk it down. And what I mean, I'm such a nerd, I really am. I've like learned to fall in love. I like took that amount of like total dollars. Then I looked at like, how much money do I actually need to make? What tax bracket am I in? How much do I need like pre and post tax? Like again, total nerd side on my side. But then I was able to look and I'm like, okay, for this practice, I know that for them to be like, just baseline, they need to be making about a hundred grand a year. Like that's pre-tax. So we know like we're to take tax out. We can survive. That's like our security. Then our growth goes up to 202 post-tax. Then our independence is at like 553. Well, now I know my mile markers of what I need to do. And I also have those parameters. you said, where am I going to penny pinch? This does not mean that I don't have certain luxuries, but it means that I'm like, it's like a gradient and I'm able to see what I'm working towards. And I remember my CPA, he told me once he said, Kiera, it actually becomes a lot easier to make money. And like once you, like in a few years, once you've bought a few of the things that you really are looking for, and I was like, you're full of it. Like, I don't believe you for a second, but it's true. Like as you evolve. You buy the things you want, you get the house that you want, you get the car that you think you want, you get the designer bags, like it's not all overnight. And then you're like, wow, I have a decent amount because I've learned to make the money, save the money, not spend everything that I've got. I'm able to then plan for these purchases that I want. I love Profit First, Mike McAllags. He's like my fangirl central every time he's on the podcast. I like just love him so much, but I'm like, okay, then I have buckets. have my travel bucket. And you're right, Mike, my travel. Dr. Lauryn B (17:18) yeah. Sweep account. Sweep! ⁓ Kiera Dent (17:28) amount, that's something that fuels me. So we pump money into a travel fund, but we have those to where I now have budgets and our clients have budgets and you can have budgets. And it's not for me, clients have even told me that's more freeing than it is otherwise, because they actually know I can spend this money guilt free and go on the trip. can go and buy this car guilt free because I have the money. Dr. Lauryn B (17:46) Mm-hmm. And that's probably really helpful for your spouse too. A lot of times the saver spouse, like it's hard for them until there's like an act, like that's the permission they need of like, no, we ran the numbers and we like this amount of money was proportionally taken and it's there. It's only to be spent on this. And they're like, okay. Kiera Dent (17:52) Thanks. Yes. Yes. Okay. And then the spender feels good because they're not just blowing all the money. So it's on this like, it's a good balance, but I love it. Like it's very simple. And now I'm very curious, Lauryn, because you've talked about like not having your business as your only asset, like that's cash flowing for you. Once we've got a simple, we like make the money and we keep the money like check that off. Then we go into these like, I love the idea. There's a ditch on both sides of the road. So which one are we going to do? We figure out like, what do need today? What are my future like? Dr. Lauryn B (18:28) Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (18:41) kind of nice purchases that I want to, how do I build up to these other ones that I can save for? What's my total number? Like I know my number for financial freedom is psychotic. When I look at that, it really is. I actually have it. Dr. Lauryn B (18:51) Is it really? Because I'm interested that you said that because most people when they do that exercise are kind of like, ⁓ it's surprising to them that it's actually not higher. like, so. Kiera Dent (19:12) Well, let me just clarify. Let me ask this for you, Lauryn. What I found is for me to hit like my security, my vitality, my independence. Like we're talking like pretty much up to freedom. I'm actually it's good. Like we're there, but my absolute freedom, like where I never have to work another day in my life for me, that number, that number is a little more extreme. That one, but like even looking at it now, cause when I told you, I'm like, it's psychotic. I just pulled the spreadsheet up. What's fun though is I built this. Dr. Lauryn B (19:30) ⁓ okay. Yeah. Okay, the like I quit number, the like. Kiera Dent (19:42) gosh, I like I should honestly look, I think I built this spreadsheet, I'm going to we're gonna hold everybody I know you're like on pins and needles, I'm just gonna scroll back to when I actually made this. It's on Google Sheets, you can go back to like when it was built. So I built this and I think this is really just telling for people I built this in 2022. So May 13 2022 at 1026 am is when I built it. We're now recording this in 2025. So we're only talking just over three years since I originally built it. I told you Lauryn that my number for absolute freedom, we're talking like I put it all because I have a jet in there. I have a charter jet. I have a private like I put all these things like it was just I have like I want to Dr. Lauryn B (20:17) You have a jet in there? Okay, well most people when they do the exercise the way I have them do it aren't putting jets in there. I love you, Kiera. Okay, we're gonna stay friends because I want on that jet. Kiera error. Kiera Dent (20:25) Like I'm telling you this is my absolute freedom. This is the absolute absolute like here is living this life I mean girl you can come cuz I just like I wanted to see like what does this look like and I want to have like I don't want to retire in a retirement home I want to live in a villa like I've got some pretty lofty things in this like we're talking I went for like Dr. Lauryn B (20:41) Right. Did you put the pilot costs in there too or does that just come with a jet? Kiera Dent (20:45) So my husband actually wants to be a pilot. So that's already like built in. So I've got like that. I also have friends that are pilots like, you know, yellow, we're gonna have that. Thank you, thank you. So on that, and I actually went through this, like I built it the first time, but we're talking three years. And I look at that to have that absolute freedom. The annual income pre-tax would be 4.6 million, which that can sound like an outlandish number. However, based on where the business is now, it's not that outlandish. And that was just a short. Dr. Lauryn B (20:49) Okay. Okay. Okay. The jet makes a little more sense now, but yeah, got it. No, it's doable. Kiera Dent (21:15) three year period where I'm like, I mean, we got a jet, I got play money. mean, guys in-house chef, live in nanny, we've got all the cars, I've got my Lambo, I've got chartered flights in there, like you name it. And I look at this and I often assess because Kiera three years ago wanted some of these things and Kiera today might look at that and be like, know, I actually don't want these things, but this is what I'd rather. I'd rather like buy a house for my parents or I'd rather do this, but you will shift and change. Dr. Lauryn B (21:16) And that's got a freaking jet in it. Kiera Dent (21:45) But it's so crazy because when I look at that, I'm like, all right. So I know if things get tight in the business, I know, all right, rock on. Like pre-tax, we need to make a hundred grand. Like easy. We can handle that. We can create that. We can figure that out. That's it. Again, just a math equation. But then when you look up and you scale up, it becomes so much more doable and realistic. And then for me, I don't know how you feel, Lauryn. It's like, now the number doesn't feel like, got it. I know actually like what I'm working towards. I know how I can now do the math equation. It's not like I have to make 500 million to be free. It's like, no, I need this money because it will now go into investments. It will go into other places. I know how much that's going to generate for me. I know how much it's going to estimate grow. And I don't know. It just is pretty magical. So I'm very curious. Like, what are your other revenue streams that you recommend when we're looking at this and we're building that financial freedom? We're looking at like, okay, I kind of am. I'm hoping that people listening to this podcast are putting like dots together. Like, okay, got it. Like make the money, keep the money. Dr. Lauryn B (22:17) Mm-hmm. Hmm. Kiera Dent (22:38) figure out how I'm gonna spend it, but not overspend it and still keep the money so I don't pinch on that side. Then I'm gonna look to see where I ultimately wanna get in my life. Now, like what are some other things like if we're there, how did you get it to where you weren't just reliant on your business anymore? Dr. Lauryn B (22:52) So first I will say that none of this is any tax or legal advice and you must talk to your CPA or whatever. Yeah, here's my little disclaimer. I am not an accountant or anything, a lawyer or anything like that. So right now, so I just interviewed someone on crypto. So I am really, really lucky that my husband, he's a very early adopter. And so Kiera Dent (22:58) This is true our little disclaimer there guys go talk to people that are not Dr. Lauryn B (23:21) We have been pretty involved in crypto for Kiera Dent (23:26) Which is why you said do crypto like all the things like I should be putting this in crypto not going on trips. I now get it. All right, go on. Dr. Lauryn B (23:33) So I just interviewed someone on my podcast who's like a crypto investor and like some of the predictions that the crypto people, the crypto people are saying about going to happen with crypto, what could happen with crypto in the next five years, 4.6 million would be easy. So like if our current crypto ⁓ Kiera Dent (23:55) Chump change, like truly, truly. Dr. Lauryn B (24:01) account like amount that we have invested did even a fraction of like what like we'd be we'd be pretty pretty pretty good even if that doesn't happen in five years if it like takes 10 so crypto for us Kiera Dent (24:08) Mm-hmm. Dr. Lauryn B (24:14) and like i said i just i knew that like that was the thing that for him but like i just really got i got off this interview and i was like how much did you invest last month we need double it we need to like and he's like yeah This is so exciting. Like I have been priceless. I've been really obsessed with a Cartier watch lately. Like a real like, and so I have was, I'm already Kiera Dent (24:28) That's where he'll spend there, Lauryn. Dr. Lauryn B (24:37) about my 2026 vision board because I'm in Enneagram three and we do weird like that. And so I I was like, I want to go to Switzerland and Kiera Dent (24:41) I love it. Dr. Lauryn B (24:46) want to to Switzerland and buy a Cartier watch. Cause that's where they're made. And like, and now I'm like, you know, maybe we should Kiera Dent (24:52) Yeah. Dr. Lauryn B (24:56) delay, that would be better put into crypto. And he's just like, this is the saver husband is just like, this is the greatest thing in the world. So anyway, so that's one bucket. ⁓ And you know, he spends a good amount of time each week, each day monitoring. So I won't even call that passive. I think that crypto can be a lot more passive depending on how you do it. I'm not going to get any deeper into the waters here because we are at my like limit of understanding of crypto. Kiera Dent (25:02) He's loving it. Okay, so crypto. Okay. Okay, perfect. Dr. Lauryn B (25:24) I know that you can very active in investing and there are ways that can be much more passive. ⁓ So real estate, obviously think that real estate is the secret of the wealthy for decades and decades and decades and it's not such a secret anymore. It comes with its own things. We both experienced 2007. I luckily had just gone into school, but there are people who lost their asses in 2007 with real estate. So not foolproof. Also, Kiera Dent (25:50) only. Dr. Lauryn B (25:54) not incredibly passive. We throw the word passive around way too much in this, but I will say where the majority currently and where we're like next year, how I'm getting to 3 million and this and that, a good percentage of it is very, very active in the personal brand coaching side of things. Kiera Dent (25:56) I would agree on that. You gotta have a lot of doors, lots of doors, lots of time. I agree. Dr. Lauryn B (26:22) I have built and have continued building. ⁓ so, you know, podcast, sure, that makes some money, but like where very actively, where I spend more time on than in my clinic is in the online space of coaching courses, programs, webinars, membership. And that's when you find, and here's the thing. is like every dentist listening, every chiropractor listening is like, okay, so I need to coach other dentists. I need to coach other chiropractors. And it's like, no, what I'm saying is, is online, there is a lot of money that can be made. It's not easier, but it's also not harder. It's its own hard. I just solved a different problem for someone. So I had the business that we solve this problem. And then I figured out a way. So we talked about the financial. Kiera Dent (27:05) Right. Dr. Lauryn B (27:18) freedom, but then I figured out the time freedom that I wasn't needed there all the time. So I could sit and go, what's another problem that I can sell a solution to? Kiera Dent (27:33) Okay, let's like pause there. I'm very curious. How did you get, how did you solve the time solution? Like guilt free, like walk me through. I know it's like a pile whole nother episodes. Like do it in like a chunk or probably close to time. Dr. Lauryn B (27:38) God, that's. Yeah, well, I mean, you ultimately, you pay for your time. So like, I am not collecting as much money from my clinic as I could if I was there doing the service. Like, that's just kind of obvious. ⁓ So I am paying for doctors that I wouldn't need a doctor. I could get rid of an entire doctor's salary if I just worked full time. Kiera Dent (27:59) Right. Dr. Lauryn B (28:10) I could also get rid of my amazing and well-paid director of ops. So this was a big game changer for us is so like, you may have a doctor on staff that's like your clinic director. You know, they're really in charge of like patient care, whatever, things like that. I recommend having a not office manager, a director of operations. Kiera Dent (28:25) Thank Dr. Lauryn B (28:39) Okay, like this is not an office manager. A lot of time your office manager is like by default, the person who's been with you the longest. Like we hired in a specific skillset that was going to be my eyes, ears, hands, feet, pretty much everything except my visionary brain. Kiera Dent (28:40) Nothing. and Dr. Lauryn B (29:03) She does HR meetings, she does hiring, she does firing, she monitors stats. I meet with her once a week and I get reports. I pay her pretty well. And like honestly, she needs another raise and so does my other doctor. Like, so this is what's hard. Kiera Dent (29:17) Yeah. So let's just break it down. I don't wanna know exactly what your Director of Operations gets paid, but let's give a range so people understand, because I think people don't realize what we're paying for that. So are we talking? Okay, perfect. And for some of you, might hear like, yes. And I would say that that, I would say it's probably 60 to 150 penny upon, for dentists, the size and practice, like I have seen that come through. So again, looking to see where it is. Dr. Lauryn B (29:27) Probably 60 to 90 grand. depending on your city and things like that. can. and especially like if you're running multiple clinics. Yeah. Kiera Dent (29:44) Yes. So when you said that though, when we were talking about the audacious number and we're like, Hey, 4.6, like it seems so, but you're like, it's really big. But I think if people were to hear that and think K 60 to 90, if I were to pay somebody 90, but not have to do all the meetings, not all the hiring, not all the firing, what is your time worth? Go to Dan Martell, buy back your time. He's one of my favorites. Like what is your dollar per hour when you're doing dentistry or when you're doing chiropractic? And could you hire that out? Like how many hours could you do or use your visionary brain to grow the business, grow other things? Well, yes, that's a great salary. It also, think when we put it with your time, I think a lot of people could see that on a balance sheet of a very good investment because I think time is one of your greatest assets. So again, I just want to highlight because a lot of people may think it's like 200. Dr. Lauryn B (30:26) Mm-hmm. Well, and I'm in a circle back. So, cause I said, there's like the two different reasons you're burning out. Although I've listed like 17 at this point. You you've got the person who just wants to care for people and they have to run a business. And then you've got the person who's like, I've solved this. So like, I don't remember who said it, but they basically said there's like two types of people. And this is a really great question to ask when you're hiring. It's one of my favorite questions. ⁓ Are you the type of person? Kiera Dent (30:39) Yeah Dr. Lauryn B (30:57) who wants to solve the same problem every day and get more efficient and faster and better at solving that puzzle, or are you a person who would rather have a brand new puzzle every day and figure out to solve that puzzle? There is no wrong answer here. You are not a less than person because people hear that and they go, oh. I wanna be the exciting person. And this is why so many people end up in entrepreneurship that shouldn't is because they hear the air quotes, right answer there. the exciting answer is I want a new puzzle. Most people are not psycho like if you that you're that person, when you're really, this is totally cool to be like a more efficient problem solving, like same puzzle. But that's what a business is. Kiera Dent (31:49) Yes. Dr. Lauryn B (31:50) after a certain point, you are solving the same problem. And so I literally couldn't. I couldn't, so like, yes, I could say like, well, I had the option of not spending that money on salary and just like stepping into my practice even more and being that director of ops and being that, I couldn't. I was done. At this point, this had been like 12 years. Like, this is really more more recent. I've been in practice 15 years. So it was really more like three years ago that I was like, I can't, I want to. And I feel like a bad person that I'm like, I can still be the visionary. I can still check in and I still love hands-on patience. Like, ⁓ but like we need to hand this baton to somebody better because I will die if I have to keep hiring and doing some of this stuff. Kiera Dent (32:47) You How did your team and doctors take that? Because I think people are so scared of like, well, why does Lauryn get to go have one or two days in the office and we're here five days? Like, did you have any of that backlash? Like, how did that go? Dr. Lauryn B (32:50) And so. they're continue, you know, like, yeah, your people are people are people. And we can't, we can't, as if I don't get, my husband has to talk me off a ledge, you know, once a month about like, can you believe, like, we, they're just humans who are also living their experience and wanting more money and like seeing you live abundantly and feeling feelings of jealousy. Like you can't cure anybody who says like they've cured jealousy. from their team culture, they are lying. So like feelings of jealousy and greed, these are natural human emotions that your staff is going to go through. And so, you know, I would say that more recently as we, because like we're talking about like, hey, the clinic numbers are not good enough for... Kiera Dent (33:36) Yeah Dr. Lauryn B (34:00) abundance and bonuses and raises. We've told you what we need the clinic numbers to be at in order for raises to happen. Kiera Dent (34:06) I hope everybody listening just heard how she was a CEO and she told them, these are what the numbers are. This is what we have to do. It's not, me give you bonuses and pay you more in hopes to get that number up there. Like rewind that, listen to that over and over and over again, because you have to have this team needs to see that. Otherwise, this is how you don't make the money and keep the money. You make the money and you pay more money and you're broke. Go on. Dr. Lauryn B (34:27) Yeah, and for the first, that's how I got to the worst, the best worst year of my life, you biggest revenue, but worst income was because we had been giving raises based on like effort and like they're working really hard. They deserve a raise. So an employee can deserve a raise, but there's not money to give them. So like we're simultaneously this year dealing with like, hey, I wanna give raises, but like it's gotta be here and we're close, but we're not there. They simultaneously see me just fucking killing it in the online space and spending, because also like in the personal brand, like I coach healthcare providers how to launch a personal brand. And so like I talk about like, hey, I got a $2,000 affiliate check. We invested $13,000 from crypto. If you go find me on Instagram @DrLaurynB, you will see like, My posts are about abundance and what a personal brand can do for you and how like the behind the scenes of like, yeah, we are, we're talking about diversifying income. Like this is how much our real portfolio made last month. People want to know that, but my staff sees that. And so they're like, well, she rich. Why is she trying to tell us she can't give us, why is it? And so, so like even literally this month. Kiera Dent (35:45) that we don't have money. because the business, the business. Dr. Lauryn B (35:52) We're in like calm, kind, one-to-one conversations having to be like, you know, but I will say my husband and I, like, this is like real life. These are conversations that literally happened like a week and a half ago where I came to my husband because prior the clinic was all the money. It was all the money. It was the biggest thing. It was really in the last two years that things switched. where it was like, now my clinic is like, when do we call my clinic my side gig? Because I'm literally making four times as much on this personal brand in digital space. ⁓ And so we realized that, Kiera Dent (36:20) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Dr. Lauryn B (36:32) there isn't money for raises that they want. There isn't money for bonuses. But can I, Lauryn Brunclik. who loves my employees, can I give them, can I shower them with birthday presents and anniversary presents and Christmas presents? Can I buy them lunch because they saved my ass because I came in late from a podcast recording or this or that? Yeah, because Lauryn can, like the personal, like we are fine. We are rich, great, this is great. But like my head was so like the only money from a business mind that we can spend is the money that's allowed. And it's like, no, no, no, no. Now we're entering a whole new ball field where it's like, you know what? I can, but it's not gonna come from bonuses and raises. Those come from clinic performance. And so we are kind of going like, okay, FYI, this isn't coming from chiropractic. This is coming from me. Kiera Dent (37:30) Right. Dr. Lauryn B (37:41) loving and appreciating all that you do in this clinic so that I can. So what does this look like? You take a week off and you go golf the greatest like golf whatever courses and like you just like have this bucket list thing. This looks like you showing acts of appreciation, bringing gifts, buying them dinner, like whatever it is like. showing appreciation for your staff that they are there so you can live your best life. They were there so you could leave early and go watch your kids dance recital. So like, although our natural instinct is to only show them that we appreciate them through raises and bonuses, and that's what they want. So like anytime you can do it. ⁓ Kiera Dent (38:38) I agree. I agree. I feel like both. Dr. Lauryn B (38:40) Sometimes you have to figure out more creative ways to show your appreciation to them that they are doing that so you can't. Kiera Dent (38:49) I love that. Wow. Lauryn, this is such a fun podcast. think like to put a pretty bow on this. What would you say if a doctor, your listeners, my listeners, if they're listening to this, what would you say would be like, wrap up takeaways from I mean, we have gone the gown. I love this. I felt like we were on the most random road trip of like we were going to this stop going to this one. Dr. Lauryn B (39:08) I'm not sure if we took this entire transcript and uploaded it to AI. It would be like, no, you guys are amazing. Here's your silver thread. Kiera Dent (39:17) That would be amazing. So what would you say would be kind of like key takeaways or things that maybe we didn't get to that you just feel like listeners, business owners, those running the day to day clinic, whether you want to be on whichever side of this burnout coin, if you want to be there and serve the patients but are sick of doing the business, if you're on the side of like, gosh, I like just want to run the business and do other things outside of this, like looking at the burnout, looking at the generations that we're going through. I mean, we went the gamut of from investments and passive income to appreciating your team as you as a person rather than the business. Like so many fun, different like ideas and aha moments. Any last thoughts you wanna add to put a pretty bow on today's podcast? Dr. Lauryn B (39:57) All well, that's a really hard question, but you're lucky I actually do have something to say. was like, oh God, okay. All right, so was listening to a podcast this morning. Simon Sinek had Arthur Brooks on, and Arthur Brooks is, I don't know, political science, behavioral science, I think behavioral science. And he just very briefly in the interview said that like, Kiera Dent (39:59) I know. Hey, good, good. Dr. Lauryn B (40:21) It's human nature that we go through a reinvention of our career and have to reinvent ourselves every seven to 12 years. And that's just, that's gonna happen. So from the time that you graduate high school until the time that you retire, you're going to need to reinvent yourself multiple times. And the more that you fight that, the more that you, you you're at that seven year itch or whatever, and instead of embracing reinvention, whatever that looks like for you, maybe you're bringing on new services into your clinic. like, it doesn't need to mean you need to lean out at that point, but you might just need a little, like, re-ignition, a reinvention of your brand. ⁓ The more that you fight that and go, I shouldn't feel this way, what's wrong with me? Like, like if you're sitting there broke and you're just stuck, in a place of instead of reinventing yourself into this wealthy, healthy doctor that you know you can be, but instead you're like, God, I'm 39. I don't have my shit together. I should be making more money. I should, like, the more you just sit in this, what's wrong with me? It's just gonna torture yourself. I truly believe that people, you know, let's say they get 12 years into their career. I believe that there are ⁓ too high of a percentage of people that literally just plan on embracing the suck the rest of their career instead of reinventing themselves for something joyful and abundant. And that just makes me so sad. So that's what I would say is my final thing is if you feel wherever you're at in your career, if you're feeling this, like this is your permission. It's not from me, it's from Arthur Brooks. He's some smart. Kiera Dent (42:17) Yeah. Dr. Lauryn B (42:18) Like you were smart enough to be on Simon Sinek, all right? He's giving you permission. This is not just a unique thing. This is human nature. And so figure it out. What does reinvention look like for you? ⁓ And just start doing the work. Kiera Dent (42:35) Lauryn, that was absolutely beautiful and I hope people listen. I hope they take action. They take advice. ⁓ Because I think what you just said is so freeing and so beautiful. So I really hope people don't just listen, but actually take action. So Lauryn, I love this today. It was so fun. How can people get in? It's a great time. I'm like when we in person, I guarantee you'll be someone we will be fast friends in real life. Like just loved having you on here today. How can people get connected with you? How can they see your Dr. Lauryn B (42:51) We should meet up in real life. Kiera Dent (43:03) life again, I believe like when we watch other people we become like them. So it's like, I want people like you. I want people that are abundant. I want people like this is what the podcast is for. This is why we bring people together. How can people get connected with you if they want to know more about you see what you're doing? How can they Dr. Lauryn B (43:07) Mm-hmm. yeah, and if you related to this, you'll love my Instagram, because this is everything that I talk about. So it's @DrLaurynB and Lauryn is with a Y. So ⁓ Instagram is definitely the place I hang out the most. Send me a DM if you listen to this. Like I am in my DMs all the time. And I would just, yeah, that's the best place. Kiera Dent (43:34) I love it. We are millennials. Instagram's our jam. We're not on Snapchat, all right? It's Instagram, okay? It's gonna be that way forever. But Lauryn, I loved it today. Thank you for joining me. Everyone here, I hope you picked up nuggets. I hope you take action. I hope you truly commit to living your best life. And as always, thanks for listening and I'll catch you next time on the Dental A Team Dr. Lauryn B (43:37) This jam. Yeah.
Send us a textWhat if your exhaustion or frustration is actually an invitation? In this episode, Amy Wicks shares an honest story about reaching her limits and learning that humility (not perfection) is the beginning of healing.You'll discover how each Enneagram type hides or self-protects when things feel off, and how grace invites you to tell the truth about what's really going on.Book your clarity call: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksLearn more about the Wholehearted Identity Journey Small Group: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HtCJJLUyzPJIr7lYBionrr5irRnQL_sw/view?usp=sharingEmail wholeheartedenneagram@gmail.com with your questions!Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizRESOURCES FOR YOU: Book a High-Value Clarity Call with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Wholehearted Enneagram Coachinghttps://bit.ly/SWcoachingcollectiveEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideThe Real History of the Enneagram Course(use code AMY for 40% OFF)https://bit.ly/EnneagramHistoryShould Christians Use the Enneagram? (Amy's book)https://amzn.to/3VB9PrxConnect with Amy:IGWebsite
Let us know how you enjoyed this episode!Here is Part 2 of the Enneagram series with Christa Hardin! If you haven't listened to Part 1 yet, go check out Ep. 232 first and then come back to this!Much of marriage conflict is because of misunderstandings. Whether we take things personally when we didn't need to or our partner just has a different style of communication. Marriage gets easier when you start getting to know each other better and one way you can do that is by knowing each other's Enneagram.In this powerful conversation, I sit down again with Enneagram and Marriage expert Krista Hardin to dive deeper into how understanding personality types can strengthen your communication, conflict resolution, and connection.We go beyond just identifying your number—we unpack how each Enneagram type shows up in marriage: what motivates them, what triggers them, and how to bring out their best self in partnership.You'll learn:How understanding core fears and motivations helps reduce conflictWhat each Enneagram type needs most in love and communicationWhy self-awareness is the key to being a better partnerHow to move from judgment to compassion using the Enneagram as a shared languageWhether you're a loyal 6, nurturing 2, driven 3, or peaceful 9, you'll leave this episode with fresh insight into how your personality influences your marriage—and how to create a stronger, more harmonious partnership.Connect with Christa!IG: @enneagramandmarriageWebsite: www.enneagramandmarriage.comThanks for listening!Connect and send a message letting me know what you took away from this episode: @michellepurtacoaching and follow me on threads @michellepurtacoaching!If you would like to support this show, please rate and review the show, and share it with people you know would love this show too!Additional Resources:Ready to put a stop to the arguments in your marriage? Watch this free masterclass - The #1 Conversation Married Couples Need To Have (But Aren't)Want to handle conflict with more confidence? Download this free workbook!Wanna make communication feel easy and stop feeling like roommates so you can bring back the romance and excitement into your marriage? Learn more about how coaching here!
Send us a textIn this first episode of Wholehearted Reflections: 5 Clarity Calls for Your Soul, Amy Wicks invites you to pause and pay attention to what's stirring within you.Hear her honest story of hitting her limits, and discover how surrender becomes the first step toward healing and transformation.Includes Enneagram insights for all nine types and a simple breath prayer to help you begin your Wholehearted Journey.Book your clarity call: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicksLearn more about the Wholehearted Identity Journey Small Group: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HtCJJLUyzPJIr7lYBionrr5irRnQL_sw/view?usp=sharingUnclear about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquizEmail wholeheartedenneagram@gmail.com with your questions!RESOURCES FOR YOU: Book a High-Value Clarity Call with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Not sure about your Enneagram Type? Start here: https://www.simplywholehearted.com/enneagramquiz Wholehearted Enneagram Coachinghttps://bit.ly/SWcoachingcollectiveEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideThe Real History of the Enneagram Course(use code AMY for 40% OFF)https://bit.ly/EnneagramHistoryShould Christians Use the Enneagram? (Amy's book)https://amzn.to/3VB9PrxConnect with Amy:IGWebsite
What does it really mean to be visible—in your business, your relationships, and even in the bedroom? In this episode, Nicole sits down with Amy Bartko, founder of Chatterbox PR & Marketing, to explore how visibility shows up in every area of life and why it matters more than we think. Amy shares her story of running a successful PR agency while creating a new venture designed to help women reclaim their voice, ask for what they want, and feel confident in being seen. Along the way, she and Nicole connect the dots between Human Design, the Enneagram, and the ways these tools reveal both the challenges and the breakthroughs of showing up authentically. This conversation offers a mix of practical tips—like how to approach PR with confidence and get in front of the right people—and personal insights about navigating judgment, building supportive community, and finding the courage to expand into new chapters. If you've ever felt hesitant to put yourself out there, or wondered how to step into more visibility without losing yourself, Amy's story will inspire you to see what's possible when you choose to bet on yourself. Listen now! Learn more about your Human Design and get your full chart for free at https://www.nicolelaino.com/chart Connect with Amy: - Visit her website at https://chatterboxbrands.com/ - Follow Amy Bartko on Instagram @amybartko Be sure to visit nicolelaino.com/podcastlinks for all of the current links to events, freebies, and more! If you enjoyed this week's episode, I'd so appreciate you doing a few things for me: Please subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen! Rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts. Tag me @nicolelainoofficial on your IG stories with a story of you listening to the podcast and I'll make sure to share your post! Interested in learning more about working with me? Click here to learn more about how we can work together.
That Wellness Podcast with Natalie Deering: Internal Family Systems with a Twist
Fresh from the 2025 IFS Conference and in celebration of the podcast's 100th episode, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS enthusiast, Tammy Sollenberger, for a lively and heartfelt debrief. In true synchronicity, we somehow kept signing up for the same seminars—without ever comparing notes beforehand. We talk about our parts, our paths, and maybe a touch of destiny. Tammy opens up about what it's like to be an “IFS celebrity” (yes, we said it!) and the part of her that found it difficult to fully surrender as a participant in sessions while being so publicly known in the community. I share about my socially anxious parts and how they showed up throughout the conference, and together we explore how our systems reacted to the intensity, the beauty, and the vulnerability of being surrounded by hundreds of other parts and protectors in one big IFS field. I also share some clairvoyant messages that came through for both of us — intuitive nudges about healing, alignment, and the unexpected ways our friendship continues to unfold inside and outside the IFS community. This episode is a blend of reflection, laughter, emotional honesty, and gentle self-discovery — just what you'd expect from two friends who speak IFS fluently and love exploring the edges between psychology and soul. What We Talk About How we kept accidentally attending all the same IFS conference seminars Tammy's experience of being an “IFS celebrity” and the protector that kept her from full vulnerability as a participant My socially anxious parts and how they showed up in crowded conference spaces The parts of us that got activated during the conference — and how we worked with them Our individual experiences as presenters Tammy's real-time vulnerability: sharing about her romantic breakup in her presentation and how her system responded Clairvoyant messages and intuitive insights that came through for both of us Takeaways, integration, and how the IFS model continues to deepen our friendships and inner awareness About Tammy Sollenberger Tammy Sollenberger is an author, podcaster, and psychotherapist. She's a Certified IFS Therapist and Consultant who loves helping people new to IFS discover their Authentic Self. Tammy co-authored a chapter on the Enneagram and IFS with Joan Ryan in the book Altogether Us: Integrating the IFS Model with Key Modalities, Communities, and Trends. She's also the author of The One Inside: Thirty Days to Your Authentic Self, and the host and producer of the popular weekly podcast, “The One Inside.” Tammy has a part who always wishes she were reading on a sunny beach ☀️ Learn more about her work at tammysollenberger.com ____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Donate to the podcast Here! Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information. Thank you for the support! *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*
294: Find the Habits Driving Your Business Discover how uncovering your thinking habits can unlock your greatest potential. In this episode, we sit down with Liz Taylor—former Motorola mechanical engineer turned serial entrepreneur, certified health and Enneagram coach, and Habit Finder specialist. With over 24 years of business experience and coaching since 2015, Liz shares how identifying the thought patterns that drive or derail success can transform high-achieving business owners. Learn how Habit Finder reveals your strengths, exposes hidden roadblocks, and helps you align your God-given talents with your passion for lasting growth. Topics Mentioned: Habits Strengths Growth mindset Listening Key Thoughts: Exploring Habit Formation The Habit Finder Test combines strengths assessment with habit analysis to increase self-awareness. It it important to focus on present progress rather than future goals allowing yourself to enjoy the journey. Understanding Shaping Habits Habits are repetitive actions that can be shaped by identity-based approaches rather than just external triggers. Thinking habits, which are often unconscious, can either serve as protective mechanisms or become sabotaging patterns. The goal is to replace negative thinking habits with positive ones. Truth and Growth in Business Explore the path from your habits and how they form thinking patterns. Personal growth is necessary for business growth. Habit Finder Assessment The Habit Finder Assessment is a 10-15 minute tool that uses 36 mathematically valued statements to identify thinking patterns and habits. The assessment measures six different habits, three external (connections with others, physical creation, and structure) and three internal (mental creation, personal fulfillment, and self-worth) with results showing how individuals naturally think and behave under pressure. Entrepreneurial Habits and People Management Habit Finder can provide insights intro entrepreneurial tendencies, such as resistance to discipline and obsessive thinking, which can be a strength and a potential pitfall. Contact Michele: Email: Team@ScarletThreadConsulting.com Facebook: Scarlet Thread Consulting Instagram: @ScarletThreadATL Website: ScarletThreadConsulting.com LinkedIn: Michele Williams Contact Liz: Email: liz@legacycoachinggroup.com Instagram: @Coach Liz Taylor Website: Coach Liz Taylor References and Resources: Work with Me The Designers' Inner Circle - Become a Member Today CFO2Go Metrique Solutions Podcast Episode 35: Play to Your Strengths
Send us a textFinance expert Doug Lynam offers a groundbreaking exploration of our complex relationship with money, budgeting, and finances through the transformative lens of the Enneagram. Confront financial fears, engage with money habits and behaviors, and develop a personal understanding of how the mind and personality affect money decisions. With compassion, wisdom, and humor, Lynam will guide readers on a journey to financial health and personal growth.
In this episode of The Brave Enough Show, Dr. Sasha Shillcutt discusses: 1. The Mirror as a Battleground — and How to Take It Back 2. Aging as Power, Not Decline 3. Radical Self-Love in a World That Profits From Our Insecurities 4. Modeling a New Legacy of Beauty for the Next GenerationTop of Form "At fifty and beyond, we are not fading — we are fierce. We are not less — we are more. More experienced, more grounded, more willing to live on our own terms." - Dr. Sasha Shillcutt RISE 2.0 Mastermind RISE is an 8-month guided journey for women physicians ready to reclaim their energy, voice, and joy. You weren't meant to hustle through life—you were meant to rise. Join my private mastermind designed to help you reset boundaries, restore purpose, and elevate your life. RISE is the course your future self is begging you to take. Class starts Oct. 6th Private Coaching with Dr. Sasha Dr. Sasha Shillcutt is a certified Enneagram Coach and has over 6 years of experience coaching women like you through physician burnout. Dr. Shillcutt uses the Enneagram as a tool to help you understand yourself so you thrive in your relationships at home and work! Follow Brave Enough: WEBSITE | INSTAGRAM | FACEBOOK | TWITTER | LINKEDIN Join The Table, Brave Enough's community. The ONLY professional membership group that meets both the professional and personal needs of high-achieving women.
Fall is officially here (well not in Missouri) —which means cozy vibes, warm drinks, and... squashing some not so great habits. In this fun and laid back episode, we're going through what each Enneagram type might want to let go of this season. Whether it's stress, self-doubt, people-pleasing, or just doing too much, we're keeping it real. Think of it as a fall clean-out for your mindset. So grab your favorite drink, get comfy, and let's talk about what you can leave behind to make room for a little more peace, confidence, and maybe even a nap or two. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram @themulemindset
What if the ways we keep getting stuck in relationships aren't just bad habits, but the natural outworking of how we're wired to bond—and to protect ourselves from pain? In this episode of Typology, I sit down with psychologist and couples counselor Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby (a freshly discovered Seven with an Eight wing) to talk about the intersection of attachment, addiction to love, and the Enneagram. We explore why love itself can feel addictive, how that longing for connection sometimes binds us to the wrong person or pattern, and why recovery communities often work—they help us reattach to what's good, true, and life-giving. Along the way we dig into common Enneagram pairings, the myth of perfect compatibility, and the real gift of learning to honor differences, see blind spots, and practice repair. If you've ever wondered why you tend to chase, withdraw, fix, or move on too quickly—and how to love with more courage and steadiness—you'll find this conversation both practical and deeply hopeful. ABOUT DR. LISA MARIE BOBBY Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby is a licensed marriage and family therapist, psychologist, board certified coach and author of Exaholics: Breaking Your Addiction to an Ex Love. She is the founder of Growing Self Counseling and Coaching, an internationally recognized practice focused on love, happiness, and success. With over 120K monthly podcast downloads on Love, Happiness, and Success, she offers expert advice on relationships, personal development, and professional growth. Dr. Bobby has been featured in Oprahdaily.com, The New York Times, CNBC, Women's Health, and Real Simple, making her a trusted authority in the media on all things love, life design, and self-improvement.
Okay I'm going to read a quote, “If you're not paying attention to how you affect other people, you're missing a big piece of what makes life work. What you don't know about yourself can hurt you, others, and your relationships.” This wise quote is from Suzanne Stabile, of course. This feels so true and it feels exactly why we're diving into what we're diving into over the next several weeks. It honestly feels appropriate that we would kick off this part of the Parenting Personalities series on the Enneagram with a quote from our dear friend, Suzanne Stabile. Because we would both say that she has hands down taught us the most about the Enneagram. She's our favorite Enneagram teacher, and so we're going to be quoting her all throughout this time and sharing things we've learned through all of her decades of studying this great ancient wisdom tool. We're excited to bring all that we've learned through her and how we see that walked out in parenting. We talked about this recently, but why wouldn't we want to grow? Those of us who love kids or in relationship to anyone else, in fact we would love for you to share these episodes with your kids' grandparents, with aunts and uncles, with educators. Really anybody in your life, you don't have to be a parent, to hopefully learn from and glean from the growth and grace that's going to weave all throughout these conversations. Book recommendation mentioned in episode: "The Road Back to You" by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile . . . . . . Owen Learns He Has What it Takes: A Lesson in Resilience Lucy Learns to Be Brave: A Lesson in Courage More Links: Sign up to receive the monthly newsletter to keep up to date with where David and Sissy are speaking, where they are taco'ing, PLUS conversation starters for you and your family to share! Connect with David, Sissy, and Melissa at raisingboysandgirls.com . . . . . If you would like to partner with Raising Boys and Girls as a podcast sponsor, fill out our Advertise with us form. QUINCE: Give your summer closet an upgrade—with Quince. Go to Quince.com/rbg for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. THRIVE MARKET: Skip the junk without overspending. Head over to ThriveMarket.com/rbg to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift. NIV APPLICATION BIBLE: Save an additional 10% on any NIV Application Bible and NIV Application Commentary Resources by visiting http://FAITHGATEWAY.COM/NIVAB and using promo code RBG. BOLL & BRANCH: Feel the difference an extraordinary night's sleep can make with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at Bollandbranch.com/rbg. Exclusions apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Today, Uranio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut talk about the somatic dimension of the Enneagram. In this episode, they explain how each type and subtype expresses tension and blockages in the body, and how this influences emotions and behavioral patterns.Urânio and Bea share practical examples of how the instincts and triads impact different areas of the body and even physical health. They highlight the importance of body-based work for self-development, disease prevention, and deeper integration of consciousness.We'd like to apologize for Quisto, Urânio's Dog. He was so eager to participate in today's episode that we couldn't fully contain him! Our editor did her best to minimize the noises, but there was still some, she hopes it wasn't too much of nuisance.Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://enneagramcompass.com to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com
Are you constantly saying "sorry" for the smallest thing? Smoothing over tensions? Fixing everyone else's problems while your own leadership presence suffers? You're not alone - and it's costing you more than you think.In this game-changing episode, powerhouse coach Kelly Travis reveals the hidden toll of over-apologizing and people-pleasing among high-achieving professionals. Discover how internalized roles like "the fixer," "the good girl," and "the perfectionist" are unconsciously driving your leadership decisions and holding you back from your true potential.
In this episode of The Evolving Leader, co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender talk to Sir David Spiegelhalter, one of the world's foremost authorities on risk and probability. David explains why embracing uncertainty, rather than trying to eliminate it is essential for leaders who want to build resilience and make better judgments in complex times.Drawing from his latest book “The Art of Uncertainty”, David shares stories that bring statistics to life, from forecasting failures to the importance of imagination and red-team thinking. This conversation offers both a challenge and a toolkit: how to hold authority while admitting doubt, how to communicate risk with clarity, and how to lead teams toward what he calls ‘safe uncertainty'. Further materials from David Spiegelhalter:Five Rules For Evidence CommunicationThe art and science of uncertainty - with David Spiegelhalter (recorded at the Royal Institution, 30 January 2025) Other reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender: Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)Social:Instagram @evolvingleaderLinkedIn The Evolving Leader PodcastTwitter @Evolving_LeaderBluesky @evolvingleader.bsky.socialYouTube @evolvingleader The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.Send a message to The Evolving Leader team
On the 356th episode of You Know I'm Right, Nick Durst and Joe Calabrese are joined by Sister Wives podcaster, Ace Fanning to discuss: - First app he checks in the morning - Growing up in a family of 8, being the baby and only boy - Being an Enneagram Type 4 - Marrying an Enneagram 9, Katelyn and creating a beautiful family - Being a photographer - Living in Peoria, AZ - When and how did he start watching Sister Wives and when did he launch the Sister Wives: Love Should Be Multiplied Not Divided podcast? Needing a disclosure for people when listening and driving. - Which Sister Wife is the most horny? - How repulsive does he find Tony to be? How many tacos should they have had for his wedding to Mykelti? - What was more disgusting to watch on the show, the home water births or Christine and David making out? - How truly remarkable is watching Truely Brown on tv? - Was the downfall of the Brown family leaving Las Vegas? - What happened to Dayton? - What does David Jessop think about Sister Wives? - Do you say Merry or Meri Christmas? - What was it like meeting Meri Brown? - Buying Kody Brown's convertible - Would he rather go on a guys camping trip with Kody and David Woolley or a LuluRoe cruise with Meri, Christine and Mykelti? - Launching the Reality Court podcast - Thoughts on David Yontef? - Favorite Real Housewives show - Favorite guest he has had on Reality Court and when will he have Nick and/or Joe on as a guest to talk all things BRAVO? - How does he balance two podcasts, work and a family? - Zodiac sign - You Know I'm Right moment For more information visit: https://linktr.ee/youknowimright Follow our show on instagram - instagram.com/YKIRPodcast Like our show on facebook - https://www.facebook.com/YouKnowImRightPodcast Follow our show on twitter - twitter.com/YKIRPodcast Follow Nick on twitter - twitter.com/Nick_Durst Follow Joe on twitter - twitter.com/JCalabrese1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
You need this episode. If you've been feeling down about yourself (and let's be real, most of us do at times), this conversation is for you. I'm diving deep into the best qualities of every Enneagram type—highlighting the weird, unique, and truly awesome traits that make each type shine. This isn't surface-level encouragement; it's a powerful reminder of who you really are beneath the self-doubt. ✨ In this episode, you'll discover: The most life-giving strengths of Type 1–9 How each type's quirks are actually hidden sacred powers A new way to see yourself with more compassion and appreciation Whether you're an Enneagram beginner or longtime student, you'll walk away with fresh insight, encouragement, and maybe even a little spark of pride in being exactly who you are. Links: Check out The Coven Try the Free Enneagram Quiz!!!! Message me on Instagram @Angie.Alchemist and ask all your Enneagram questions! OR email me at angiealchemy@gmail.com Check out more at AngieAlchemist.com
Start Your Transformation Now In this thought-provoking episode, Jim sits down with Emma Dunwoody, a world-renowned Human Design expert, behavioral coach, and author of Human Design Made Simple. Emma shares how Human Design goes beyond traditional personality tests like Myers-Briggs and Enneagram, offering an energetic blueprint that reveals your authenticity, purpose, and how you're designed to thrive in relationships, business, and life. Emma breaks down the origins of Human Design, why so many people struggle with strategies that don't work for them, and how understanding your design helps you release conditioning, honor your energy, and step into sovereignty. Through personal stories and insights, she shows how Human Design can transform everything—from relationships to decision-making—by shifting from the head to the body and uncovering your unique strategy and authority. If you've ever felt stuck trying to “fix yourself,” exhausted by running other people's strategies, or searching for clarity in relationships and purpose, this episode will give you a roadmap to your authentic self. What You'll Discover in This Episode: What Human Design Really Is (01:19) Emma explains how Human Design differs from traditional personality tests and why it's the energetic roadmap to authenticity. The Five Human Design Types (07:32) Discover the roles of Manifestors, Generators, Manifesting Generators, Projectors, and Reflectors—and what they mean for your energy and life path. How Conditioning Shapes (and Limits) Us (12:50) Why we take on other people's energy and conditioning, and how Human Design helps you separate what's truly yours from what isn't. Relationships and Human Design (16:27) How knowing your design—and your partner's—can transform conflict, connection, and compatibility in relationships. The Power of Undefined Centers (22:57) How “open spaces” in your chart reveal conditioning, trauma bonding, and why we repeat painful patterns until we decondition them. Applying Human Design to Everyday Life (30:01) From relationships to decision-making, how Human Design provides sovereignty and clarity in navigating life. Listen, apply, and enjoy! Transformational Takeaway True transformation isn't about fixing yourself—it's about remembering who you already are. As Emma shares, Human Design gives you permission to step out of conditioning, stop running other people's strategies, and embody your authentic energy. When you align with your design, you gain sovereignty, clarity, and the freedom to live your potential. Mentioned Resources: https://www.emmadunwoody.com/ https://www.instagram.com/the_human_design_coach/ https://www.emmadunwoody.com/maggie Let's Connect: Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | LinkedIn LIKED THE EPISODE? If you're the kind of person who likes to help others, then share this with your friends and family. If you have found value, they will too. Please leave a review on Apple Podcasts so we can reach more people. Listening on Spotify? Please leave a comment below. We would love to hear from you! With gratitude, Jim
Send us a textIn a world overflowing with AI-generated summaries and Social Media hot takes, what we truly need is human wisdom, especially in our relationships.In this honest and insightful conversation, I'm joined by Christa Hardin, founder of Enneagram & Marriage and a guide who's shaped my own growth as a coach and wife. Together, we discuss why the Enneagram is most powerful when paired with presence, coaching, and spiritual discernment, and why genuine transformation can't be outsourced.We explore:How AI and social media distort relational connections.The Importance of coaching in marriage and spiritual growth.Why the Enneagram should never be weaponized.A vision for how wisdom, not just information, brings repair.This is the first episode in our new series: The Enneagram in Real Life: Wisdom & Transformation for Moments That Matter.Take a breath, slow the scroll, and join us.Connect with Christa on IG and check out all her resources to help your marriage thrive! https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/RESOURCES FOR YOU: Book a High-Value Clarity Call with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Wholehearted Enneagram Coachinghttps://bit.ly/SWcoachingcollectiveEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideThe Real History of the Enneagram Course(use code AMY for 40% OFF)https://bit.ly/EnneagramHistoryShould Christians Use the Enneagram? (Amy's book)https://amzn.to/3VB9PrxConnect with Amy:IGWebsite
Let us know how you enjoyed this episode!Your personality shapes everything—from how you handle conflict to how you connect with your spouse and kids.In this episode, I sit down with Christa Hardin, licensed marriage and family therapist and author of The Enneagram in Marriage. Krista has spent over 20 years helping couples strengthen their connection, and today she's here to walk us through the Enneagram—a personality framework that goes beyond surface-level behaviors to uncover your core fears, desires, and motivations.Together, we explore:What the Enneagram is and why it's different from other personality toolsThe 9 personality types and their core fears and motivationsThis conversation is packed with insights that will help you better understand yourself and the people you love most. Whether you're brand new to the Enneagram or you've dabbled before, you'll leave with practical ways to apply it in your everyday life.Stay tuned for Part 2 of this series where we explore how the Enneagram shows up in marriage dynamics.Connect with Christa!IG: @enneagramandmarriageWebsite: www.enneagramandmarriage.comThanks for listening!Connect and send a message letting me know what you took away from this episode: @michellepurtacoaching and follow me on threads @michellepurtacoaching!If you would like to support this show, please rate and review the show, and share it with people you know would love this show too!Additional Resources:Ready to put a stop to the arguments in your marriage? Watch this free masterclass - The #1 Conversation Married Couples Need To Have (But Aren't)Want to handle conflict with more confidence? Download this free workbook!Wanna make communication feel easy and stop feeling like roommates so you can bring back the romance and excitement into your marriage? Learn more about how coaching here!
For many of us, the idea of arriving at the airport without any plans in place feels uncomfortable — and that often comes with a strong urge to plan nearly every detail of a trip ahead of time. But why do we feel this way? What drives us to spend so much time organizing and preparing for a vacation? In this episode, we explore how your personality — including your Enneagram type — influences the way you plan. I'll break down some of the key reasons we plan and the fears that arise when certain pieces of our travel experience are left unresolved. By the end of this conversation, my goal is to give you greater clarity about your planning tendencies so you can embrace them fully and continue creating trips that feel effortless, enjoyable, and truly aligned with your travel style. → SAVE YOUR SPOT ON MY CALENDAR TO GET 1-ON-1 VACATION PLANNING SUPPORT! ← Connect w/ Angela on Instagram LISTEN BACK: Episode 92: Traveling More Won't Make You Happy Episode 95: What It's Like to Have Me Plan Your Vacation Episode 159: 5 Tips to Decrease the Time it Takes to Plan Your Vacation Episode 209: Finding Happiness: A Personal Reflection on Loving My Life Episode 210: 4 Ways to Get Support With Your Vacation Planning Enneagram Travel Style Series: 179: What Your Enneagram Can Tell You About Your Travel Style 180: Enneagram TWOs on Vacation 181: Enneagram THREEs on Vacation 182: Enneagram FOURs on Vacation 183: Enneagram FIVEs on Vacation 184: Enneagram SIXes on Vacation 185: Enneagram SEVENs on Vacation 186: Enneagram EIGHTs on Vacation 187: Enneagram NINEs on Vacation 188: Enneagram ONEs on Vacation
Show NotesSummaryIf you've said yes to Father's dream but now you're worn down by resistance, slow progress, or doubts that whisper “Did I miss God?”, this series is for you. In this first episode of The Dreamer's Journey, I'm going to help you reframe “stuck” as a fresh starting line—so instead of quitting, you'll find the courage to carry your dream forward with confidence.TakeawaysGod plants the dream; you didn't make it up.Confirmation markers: aligns with Scripture, serves others, requires faith, bears good fruit.Resistance often comes early and refines courage.Your brain treats envisioned futures as possible—use holy imagination with wisdom.Negativity bias makes pushback feel louder than progress—guard your focus.Dreams give direction, not step-by-step instructions.Detours develop the woman who can carry the dream.New starting lines aren't failure; they're formation.Write the dream to refresh clarity and courage.Small, obedient steps move you out of stall.Quotes“The dream isn't the finish line—it's the starting line of your becoming.”“Resistance doesn't cancel your dream; it conditions you to carry it.”“The dream is a direction, not a destination.”“Every ‘stuck' is a fresh starting line.”Courageous ActionWrite the dream Father planted in you. Put it fresh on paper so you can see it again.Then, write the resistance you're facing right now—things like doubt, fear, procrastination, pushback from others, slow sales, or even that whisper of imposter syndrome.Finally, ask: How could this resistance be shaping me into the woman who can carry the dream further? Then take one small step this week in line with that insight.Chapters00:00 Welcome & Series Intro02:05 When your dream doesn't match reality06:40 Joseph's dream: planted, not pretended12:30 Resistance refines18:45 Direction, not destination24:30 Courageous Action & Prayer27:30 Next episode teaserWho Am I?Hey friend, I'm Heather—your Courageous Coach. I'm a certified life & Enneagram coach, speaker, and author of Hello Courageous. I help Christian women entrepreneurs go from feeling stuck, not-enough, and fearful to taking focused, confident, and courageous action. Together we grow ourselves so we can grow our businesses and actually live out the God-given dreams in our hearts.I also love helping fellow coaches, speakers, and authors take the ideas swirling in their heads and turn them into signature systems and books that create real income and impact.Links:
In this reflection I consider a low-frequency event from a month ago and consider it within my discovery of self worth. Supporting themes: Structural harm; College dorms; Pro- Black politics; Black belongingness; Bullying as play and the psychology of passive aggressive behaviors; Emotions. Special note: This is a re- recording of a failed episode I did a month ago. Typology: INTJ; Enneagram eight regression to the five.
In this episode, D and I wrap our stance series by exploring Types 4, 5, and 9, the so-called “withdrawn” types. We unpack what “withdrawing” actually looks like at work (hint: it can be deep engagement happening on the inside), how each type's strengths show up on teams, and where friction tends to arise under pressure. We also share quick, practical “stretch” moves for each type and reframes that managers can use to turn perceived quiet into powerful contribution. What You'll LearnWhat “withdrawn” actually means: the difference between internal engagement and disconnection, and how to tell which one you're seeing.Type 4 (The Visionary): depth, authenticity, and storytelling superpowers, plus the pull toward what's missing and how to re-ground in action.Type 5 (The Strategist): the “quiet genius” who protects limited energy, leads with data, and benefits from defining “enough information.”Type 9 (The Consensus-Builder): the calm bridge-builder who sees every side, along with the risk of fading out or numbing when things get intense.Adaptive vs. maladaptive (via Awareness to Action)Pairings & chemistryQuick Stretch Practices (Try These This Week)For 4s: Notice when emotion is pulling you inward; name one next action to move your insight forward.For 5s: Decide “what's enough” before you research; share work-in-progress to invite collaboration (even if it's not perfect).For 9s: Speak before consensus—offer your “current take” and say you're open to revising it.Reflection PromptsWhen I'm overwhelmed, do I retreat into feelings (4), thoughts (5), or comfort/peace (9)?Where's the line, for me or my teammate, between internal engagement and disconnection?What's our re-entry plan after someone steps back to process (time box, next touchpoint, decision deadline)?Resources & Next StepsBring this to your team: We're already booking year-end closers and 2026 kickoffs. Explore workshop options at EnneagramMBA.com and invite us in to blend theory with your team's real dynamics.Say hello / suggest a topic: enneagrammba.com/contact... I'd love to hear your 4/5/9 stories or questions for a follow-up on trust and the Enneagram.Book D as a speaker for your conference event: Check out potential topics here.Book Sarah as a speaker for your conference event: Check out details here.Have a request for a future episode? Drop a text here!
In this episode of The Brave Enough Show, Dr. Sasha Shillcutt discusses: 1. The Cultural Weight of “Yes” 2. No as an Act of Self-Preservation and Self-Respect 3. The Fallout and the Freedom from saying No 4. Boundaries every woman needs Your no is not rejection. It's a declaration. A declaration that your life, your time, and your worth are sacred. And that is the kind of brave, healing freedom you deserve. RISE 2.0 Mastermind RISE is an 8-month guided journey for women physicians ready to reclaim their energy, voice, and joy. You weren't meant to hustle through life—you were meant to rise. Join my private mastermind designed to help you reset boundaries, restore purpose, and elevate your life. RISE is the course your future self is begging you to take. Class starts Oct. 6th Private Coaching with Dr. Sasha Dr. Sasha Shillcutt is a certified Enneagram Coach and has over 6 years of experience coaching women like you through physician burnout. Dr. Shillcutt uses the Enneagram as a tool to help you understand yourself so you thrive in your relationships at home and work! Follow Brave Enough: WEBSITE | INSTAGRAM | FACEBOOK | TWITTER | LINKEDIN Join The Table, Brave Enough's community. The ONLY professional membership group that meets both the professional and personal needs of high-achieving women.
Ever wondered how you can determine someone else's Enneagram type? What are the proper questions to ask and what are the tell tale signs?Join us for this special episode where we work together to help our newest WISE Coach determine what her Enneagram type is!
Today, we're joined by Justin (8w7) and Trisha Davis (3w2), a couple whose story holds both heartbreak and a hard-won hope. We talk honestly about the Eight–Three dance in marriage—intensity, drive, image, and protection—and how those same strengths can be magic when we're healthy and toxic when we're not. We also dive into their new book, One Choice Away from Change: Break the Cycles that Hurt Your Relationships and Hold You Back. They remind us that real transformation isn't about muscling through—it's about naming the wound, choosing presence over performance, and practicing honest vulnerability. Justin shares how confusing help with weakness fueled secrecy and performance—and how grief became a doorway to healing. Trisha reflects on the Three's chameleon move, learning to show up without over-achieving, and a wise reframing of the Enneagram as “not a weapon and not an excuse.” Together, they walk us through surviving an affair, pastoring through COVID, late-in-life family revelations, and the truth that forgiveness is not a one-and-done event. Their North Star: when they're healthy, they're magic; when they're not, they're toxic—and daily choices make the difference. If you've tried to achieve your way out of pain or sprinted past grief because it felt inefficient, this conversation will meet you in the messy middle. We explore relief vs. recovery, acting our way into new feelings, and why you can't heal a wound you won't name. It's tender, practical, and full of hope. I hope you'll tune in. About our guests Justin and Trisha Davis are pastors, authors, speakers, and the founders of RefineUs Ministries. They're not perfect. They're not interested in pretending. They are passionate about helping others experience real healing and deeper connection. Together, they co-authored Beyond Ordinary: When a Good Marriage Just Isn't Good Enough, and Justin's book Being Real > Being Perfect: How Transparency Leads to Transformation is a USA Today bestseller. Justin and Trisha have been married for 30 years, have five kids and live in Indianapolis. One Choice Away from Change — available wherever books are sold Justin & Trisha's Website: http://justinandtrisha.com
The Enneagram isn't just about your type—it's about movement. In this episode, we're diving into what the arrows mean for type 6.
Okay, friends—today is a super special episode because I have my husband Josh on the podcast with me! We're telling the full story of how baby Chip came into the world…and let me tell you, it was not what we expected. From thinking I'd just walk into the hospital and get the epidural (lol) to watching a Bin Laden documentary while laboring (double lol), things escalated fast and got real intense. We talk about everything—the painful wait for the epidural, my back labor, Josh going full Enneagram 8 on the nurses, and the sweetest moment when we paused to pray and God showed up big. This episode is raw, funny, and deeply personal. So grateful to share this one with you! In This Episode [06:00] Labor Begins... During a War Documentary?We realize I'm in early labor, and yes—we're watching an Osama Bin Laden documentary instead of listening to Oceans. [09:00] The Hospital Experience: Confusion, Back Labor & No EpiduralThey didn't believe I was in labor (spoiler: I was). Then we waited over two hours for an epidural while I was in major pain. [14:00] Josh Goes Full Enneagram 8 & I Hit My LimitJosh has a throwdown with the nurses while I contemplate accepting fentanyl (!!!). We stop to pray—and God really met us. [18:00] Redemption in the Chaos + Chip is Here The anesthesiologist finally shows up. I go from 7cm to pushing, but the wireless monitor throws us off. Once I trust my gut, Chip is born in five minutes. [26:00] Processing the Birth + What We'd Do Differently We reflect on how hospital staff impacted our experience and what we'd change if there's a baby #3.[30:30] Meet Chip: How We Picked His Name Chip James Durham, y'all! We unpack the story behind the name—including the spicy alternatives like Chip Danger and Chip Legend. [33:30] Life With Two Kids: The Beautiful Chaos What it's been like going from one to two, how we're adjusting, and why we're soaking in every smile from baby Chip. Thanks to Our Sponsors Brooklyn Bedding: Go to brooklynbedding.com and use our promo code FTG at checkout to get 30% off site wide. This offer is not available anywhere else. NIV Application Study Bible - Grab your copy today! Winshape: Learn more or submit your application today! If you'd like to partner with For The Girl as a sponsor, fill out our Advertise With Us form! Follow us!
How often do you take care of yourself? In this episode, I talk with Angelique Foye-Fletcher, LMFT, RPT about breaking the cycle of self-sacrifice and: • How your cultural upbringing shapes your identity as an HSP • Learning to take care of yourself when you grew up in an environment or culture that didn't have room for your sensitivity • Why simple acts of mindfulness are deeply healing and can change the way you parent Angelique Foye-Fletcher (she/her) is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and Registered Play Therapist who helps sensitive, neurodivergent adults and caregivers heal through her four pillars of Books, Nature, Play, and Connection. An INFJ, HSP, and Enneagram 4, Angelique brings curiosity, ritual, and deep empathy into her work—often lighting incense or walking in nature as part of her own healing practice. Keep in touch with Angelique: • Website: https://foyefletchertherapy.com • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/foyefletchertherapy • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@foyefletcherllc Resources Mentioned: • Parent/Caregiver Support: https://foyefletchertherapy.com/parentcaregiver-support-coaching • Reconnect + Rejuvenate Support: https://foyefletchertherapy.com/coachingtherapy-packages Thanks for listening! You can read the full show notes and sign up for my email list to get new episode announcements and other resources at: https://www.sensitivestories.comYou can also follow "SensitiveStrengths" for behind-the-scenes content plus more educational and inspirational HSP resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sensitivestrengths TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sensitivestrengths Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@sensitivestrengths And for more support, attend a Sensitive Sessions monthly workshop: https://www.sensitivesessions.com. Use code PODCAST for 25% off. If you have a moment, please rate and review the podcast, it helps Sensitive Stories reach more HSPs! This episode is for educational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment with a mental health or medical professional. Some links are affiliate links. You are under no obligation to purchase any book, product or service. I am not responsible for the quality or satisfaction of any purchase.
In this episode of Most Memorable Journeys, I sit down with the extraordinary Helen Argyrou, a clinical psychologist, sacred sound therapist, speaker, author, and global thought leader based in Limassol, Cyprus, whose roots trace back to Africa.Helen brings a unique fusion of science and spirituality into everything she does, whether it's through drumming therapy, Enneagram coaching, or her pioneering work in neuroscience-based entrainment and flow states. We dive deep into the healing power of rhythm, the neuroplastic magic of sound, and how sacred drumming can realign and reawaken the self.
Welcome to another episode of "Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick." In today's conversation, Michael sits down with James Bryan Smith to dive deep into the beautiful interplay between faith and psychology. Throughout this dialogue, they explore how spiritual formation and mental health are more intertwined than ever. You'll hear powerful anecdotes about moments that resonated deeply within church communities, the impact of transformative phrases, and the widespread acceptance of mental health tools like the Enneagram.This episode also touches on significant topics like the integration of neuroscience, the evolving views within the Christian community towards therapy, and the importance of addressing sin and forgiveness responsibly. Smith sheds light on the growing acceptance of psychological insights in spiritual practices and the upcoming Apprentice Gathering Conference that aims to integrate these realms further.Support the showENGAGE THE RESTORING THE SOUL PODCAST:- Follow us on YouTube - Tweet us at @michaeljcusick and @PodcastRTS- Like us on Facebook- Follow us on Instagram & Twitter- Follow Michael on Twitter- Email us at info@restoringthesoul.com Thanks for listening!
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Jen Martin is the author of The Healing Compass, a book that weaves together the Enneagram, gender-based hormone insights, German New Medicine, and the carnivore diet into a simple, clean viewpoint for self-understanding and health. Drawing on years of study and personal experience, Jen, together with her husband Ian, help people see how personality, biology, and nutrition all interact in shaping our wellbeing. Through their business, ENRG, they offer personality typing, workshops, and resources that support people in navigating stress, healing, and lifestyle choices with greater clarity. Their work emphasizes accessibility, making complex frameworks easy to understand and apply in everyday life. Passionate about helping others find their bearings, Jen, together with Ian's expertise in the Enneagram created The Healing Compass as the first in a series designed to orient people to where they are, so they can choose where to go next on their health journey. Contact details: email: jen.enrg@gmail.com Website: https://enrg117.wixsite.com/enrg Amazon book link: https://amzn.asia/d/3SLgOjA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094133834594
Send us a textSometimes we don't realize we're at the end of one season until we've already stepped into the next.Looking back, I can see that this moment, right here, is more than just a name change or a new podcast graphic. It's a marker of growth. Of clarity. Of a shift that's been quietly unfolding in the background for a while.After more than eight years, over 400 episodes, and countless conversations with you... It's time to say goodbye to The Simply Wholehearted Podcast.But not to each other.Not to this community.And definitely not to the Wholehearted mission.RESOURCES FOR YOU: Book a High-Value Clarity Call with Amy Wicks https://www.simplywholehearted.com/callamywicks Wholehearted Enneagram Coachinghttps://bit.ly/SWcoachingcollectiveEnnea-what? The Beginners Guide to the Enneagram(free course + printables)https://bit.ly/Enneagram101GuideThe Real History of the Enneagram Course(use code AMY for 40% OFF)https://bit.ly/EnneagramHistoryShould Christians Use the Enneagram? (Amy's book)https://amzn.to/3VB9PrxConnect with Amy:IGWebsite
Do you know your values? You might think you know your values, but are you living your values, right now? In this solo episode, Judy Oskam reflects on a recent experience she shared with her daughter, Danielle. Together, they attended the Becoming You intensive led by Dr. Suzy Welch at the NYU Stern School of Business. The New York workshop centered on values and purpose. It encouraged participants to explore what matters most and to design a life that aligns with those priorities.Judy shares insights about tools such as the Values Bridge assessment, the Enneagram, and various aptitude tests. She also includes a short soundbite with Dr. Welch, about advice for new graduates. Later, Dani offers her perspective on how what the process revealed to her.In this Episode You'll LearnWhy self-discovery is a lifelong journeyHow the Values Bridge assessment measures the gap between your current and ideal lifeHow Dr. Suzy Welch advises students to begin their careersWhat the “Four Horsemen” framework reveals about barriers to growthDani's insights from the workshopQuotes “Self-discovery isn't a one-time thing. It's really an ongoing journey.” – Judy Oskam“You have to know your values. You can't be guessing.” – Dr. Suzy Welch“The more you know about yourself, the better you are able to navigate through undiscovered things.” – Danielle OskamI hope this episode encourages you to keep learning, reflect on your values, and stay open to growth. Thanks for listening! Resources and LinksSuzy Welch – NYU Stern Initiative on Purpose and FlourishingTry the Four Horsemen Quiz – a free tool Learn more about the Becoming You program and methodology.Hi Friend - Check out my TEDx talk. Why you should take action - then figure it out.
In this episode of Enneagram at Work, I'm joined by Dina Smith, licensed therapist, clinical director, certified Enneagram practitioner, and one of our Enneagram MBA visiting faculty members, to explore an important (and sometimes confusing) question:What's the difference between Enneagram coaching and Enneagram-informed therapy?Dina and I dig into:How they differ – Why therapy often looks at symptoms, diagnoses, and the past, while coaching focuses more on present-day growth and future goals.Practical examples – How Dina uses the Enneagram both in her therapy practice and as a leader of her team.Ethics and responsibility – The boundaries coaches and therapists need to keep in mind, and when it's time to refer out.The real benefits – How the Enneagram helps us create shared language, build faster connections, and uncover blind spots.Misconceptions – Including why the Enneagram isn't “just like astrology” and how to use it responsibly in professional settings.You'll also hear Dina share what it's like leading as a Type 3, including some of her blind spots, strengths, and how feedback from her team has helped her grow as a leader.Resources & LinksConnect with Dina on LinkedInFind Dina on Psychology TodayInterested in a typing session with Dina or having your team members clarify their types? Start here and tell us more: https://www.enneagrammba.com/contactHave a request for a future episode? Drop a text here!
In this episode of Typology, I sit down with Dr. Todd Hall to explore the profound ways attachment theory shapes not only our personal relationships but also our spirituality. Together, we unpack how the early bonds we form with caregivers influence our emotional health, the ways we relate to others, and even how we connect with God. Todd shares insights from his groundbreaking research on relational spirituality, reminding us that true spiritual formation is not just about what we know—it's about how we experience love, connection, and trust in real relationships. We discuss the different attachment styles—secure, anxious, avoidant, and fearful—and how they show up in daily life and in faith. Along the way, Todd offers hope: insecure attachment styles are not destiny. Through healing relationships and spiritual practices, our relational patterns can be rewired toward greater security, freedom, and love. If you've ever wondered why relationships are so hard, why intimacy feels risky, or why your connection with God sometimes feels distant or fragile, this conversation will help you see yourself with fresh compassion—and invite you into a more integrated path of personal and spiritual growth.
In this episode of The Brave Enough Show, Dr. Sasha Shillcutt and Dr. Kathy Stepien discuss: Letting go of hustle Quitting over-functioning. Dr. Kathy's upcoming book release, Done with Grit: On walking ourselves home. Kathy Stepien, MD, is a board-certified Pediatrician, Certified Coach, and Director of the Institute for Physician Wellness. She is also a mother to two teenage boys. In 2016, Dr. Stepien founded the Institute for Physician Wellness with the mission of helping physicians learn, heal, grow, and connect. Through the Institute's retreats, coaching, and Chief Wellness Officer Certification program, she and her team have supported thousands of physicians worldwide. Dr. Stepien's passion for wellness stems from her personal experience with burnout during her first career as a physical therapist. After realizing the toll of caring for others at the expense of her own well-being, she entered medical school with a new approach to balance, determined to avoid burnout while raising her two young sons. Her work is driven by a deep commitment to helping physicians, especially women in medicine, live empowered and fulfilling lives on their own terms. She believes in fostering a life where women can fully stand in their power and embrace their role as the authors of their own stories. Website Instagram Facebook LinkedIn Anti-Burnout Program for Women Physicians RISE 2.0 Mastermind RISE is an 8-month guided journey for women physicians ready to reclaim their energy, voice, and joy. You weren't meant to hustle through life—you were meant to rise. Join my private mastermind designed to help you reset boundaries, restore purpose, and elevate your life. RISE is the course your future self is begging you to take. Class starts Oct. 6th Private Coaching with Dr. Sasha Dr. Sasha Shillcutt is a certified Enneagram Coach and has over 6 years of experience coaching women like you through physician burnout. Dr. Shillcutt uses the Enneagram as a tool to help you understand yourself so you thrive in your relationships at home and work! Follow Brave Enough: WEBSITE | INSTAGRAM | FACEBOOK | TWITTER | LINKEDIN Join The Table, Brave Enough's community. The ONLY professional membership group that meets both the professional and personal needs of high-achieving women.
In this week's episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes sit down with Chris Schoolcraft, founder of CLS Leadership and Coach at CP Enneagram Academy!In this meaningful conversation, Chris shares his story with the Enneagram, with deep insights on how it helped him on professional and personal levels, and shares beautiful learnings on being a Five.Learn more about his work in https: https://www.clsleadership.com/Like learning about the Enneagram from Bea and Uranio? Join a community of Enneagram enthusiasts and participate in live monthly webinars and Q&As with Bea and Uranio. Sign up for a FREE trial of CP Online membership at https://learn.cpenneagram.comWant to discover which Enneagram type you could be? Visit our webpage https://enneagramcompass.com to learn about the Enneagram test they created, Enneagram Compass.Please subscribe and share this podcast with others. It will help us out a lot!Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChestnutPaesEnneagramAcademyFollow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/cpenneagramSign up for our newsletter https://cpenneagram.com/newsletterQuestions? hello@cpenneagram.com
Using the Enneagram in your marriage can be a beautiful tool for connection, but if we're not mindful, it can also quietly create barriers, misunderstandings, or even resentment. In this midweek reset, Christa offers a heartfelt reminder to approach the Enneagram with wisdom, grace, and a deeper understanding of your spouse's full humanity. Whether you're new to the Enneagram or have been diving deep for years, this episode is your invitation to pause, reflect, and make sure you're using it in a way that truly supports growth and love in your relationship. Tune in now for the encouragement you didn't know you needed—but won't want to miss. Watch on YouTube! Listen to Amy Wicks over at the Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast here! Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! www.EnneagramandMarriage.com Leave Christa a podcast question anonymously by sending an MP4 recording to enneagramandmarriage@gmail.com. Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
In this conversation, we close the villain series with the Invisible Destroyer—also known as The Nothing from The NeverEnding Story. This archetype represents the paralysis of possibility, where imagination and inspiration remain ungrounded, slowly eroding both the self and those around it. We explore how this villain shows up as addiction, avoidance, and endless questioning, and how its transformation into the Architect brings creativity into embodied form. Along the way, we unpack how this arc blends qualities of the Enneagram 5 and 6, why Radiohead may be its unofficial soundtrack, and what it really takes to move from disappearing into inertia to choosing life, creation, and presence. We close with a vivid “Am I the Asshole?” example that grounds these themes in relationship dynamics.Timestamps00:00 — Welcome, final villain in the series00:15 — Invisible Destroyer, aka The Nothing00:30 — Archetypal map: Enneagram 9, head center, separation wound, house of addiction01:20 — Why it feels like “a combo of the 5 and 6”: evasive expert + divisive immortal01:45 — The NeverEnding Story and the Nothing as lack of human attention and imagination03:00 — Paralyzed by possibility: endless questions without action04:10 — The wake of destruction from inaction and addiction04:40 — Successful Antagonist: The Questioner, delaying decisions forever06:10 — Wounded Child: The Overwhelmed, never big enough to handle life07:00 — Covert Form: The Addict, disappearing through escapism08:10 — Hero: The Embodied, choosing incarnation, creation, and presence (with pleasure as a pathway)09:20 — Legend: The Architect, building grounded worlds from imagination10:00 — Why this arc belongs at the end of the villain cycle: outward, complex, foundational10:45 — Real-life dynamics: undervaluing presence and its destructive impact on relationships11:30 — AITA case study: birthday dinner, avoidance, blocking, and the Nothing's invisibility wound13:30 — Radiohead soundtrack: How to Disappear Completely, Lotus Flower, and the addictive undertones of disappearing17:00 — Closing thoughts: start with villains 1–6 before tackling the complexity of 7–9The arc at a glancePinnacle Villain: Invisible Destroyer (The Nothing) — Inspiration ungrounded, inertia that consumes.Successful Antagonist: The Questioner — Delays action indefinitely by demanding more certainty.Wounded Child: The Overwhelmed — Believes they can never be big enough to handle life.Covert Form: The Addict — Escapes through substances or compulsions, invisibly eroding relationships.Hero: The Embodied — Chooses presence, incarnation, creativity, and embodied pleasure.Legend: The Architect — Builds tangible worlds from imagination and dreams.Key ideas and languageThe Nothing: Inaction as destruction; the void left when imagination is unused.Addiction as covert destruction: Disappearing through self-harm, leaving collateral damage.Paralysis of possibility: Asking without acting, researching without deciding.Presence as medicine: Recognizing that showing up, even imperfectly, matters.Imagination grounded: Dreams are valuable only when incarnated into lived form.Practices for listenersPleasure as embodimentUse sexual or sensual pleasure as a direct route into your body.Notice how aliveness shifts when you commit to being present in sensation.The small action rulePick one tiny step toward creation daily, even if imperfect.Doing badly is better than not doing at all.Name the overwhelmWrite down three things you cannot do right now.Then choose one thing you can do and act on it.Reclaim visibilityAsk yourself: “Where am I pretending my presence doesn't matter?”Practice showing up where you assume no one cares.Case study insightsBirthday dinner scenario: Downplaying one's presence leads to relational collapse. The Invisible Destroyer thinks, “It doesn't matter if I'm there,” but others feel abandoned. Repair requires recognizing that presence itself carries value.Pull quotes“When imagination is left fallow, the Nothing takes over.”“Addiction is the covert face of disappearance.”“The Architect builds worlds. The Invisible Destroyer erases them by never beginning.”GlossaryHead Center: Pressure for inspiration; linked to Enneagram 9 and separation wound.Paralysis of possibility: An endless loop of questions that prevents movement.Architect: The Legend who incarnates dreams into grounded creation.MentionsThe NeverEnding Story (book vs. film) and the Childlike Empress's need for a new name.Radiohead songs: How to Disappear Completely and Lotus Flower as archetypal expressions.Where the Heart Is (film reference) for addiction and self-directed harm.Resources and next stepsTry the Inner Villain quiz to identify where you sit with this arc.Revisit earlier villains (1–6) before tackling the 7–9 arcs for deeper clarity.Explore the Invisible Destroyer playlist, including Radiohead's catalog, to feel the archetype somatically.CreditsHosts: Kristina Wiltsee and AnnaSeries: Inner Villain → Hero → LegendAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
What makes a character unforgettable? It's not just quirks or dialogue. It's personality. Your characters' personalities shape their arcs, influence their voices, drive their goals, and and connect plot and theme into a cohesive whole. In this episode, we'll explore why personality is the secret ingredient to compelling storytelling and how you can use it to create characters who resonate with readers long after the final page. You'll Learn: 3 reasons personality is the foundation of great characters 4 ways personality drives storytelling (arc, voice, conflict, theme) 10 practical tips for weaving personality into your plot, dialogue, and arcs How to use tools like the Enneagram and MBTI to stress-test your character development Whether you're outlining your next novel or revising a draft, this episode will help you unlock deeper, more authentic storytelling through the lens of personality.
This week, we explore the art of listening and the complexities of human personality through the lens of the Enneagram with Emily Kasriel, an award-winning journalist, executive coach, and author of the new book, Deep Listening: Transform Your Relationships with Family, Friends, and Foes. Emily shares her journey of self-awareness and the importance of deep listening in our everyday interactions. She discusses her experiences at the BBC, the challenges of listening in high-stakes situations, and the powerful eight-step approach to deep listening outlined in her book. Discover how to create psychological safety in conversations, the significance of being present, and the value of curiosity in understanding others. We also examine the nuances of the Enneagram, helping listeners discern their personality types and how they can enhance their listening skills. Whether you're new to the Enneagram or a seasoned enthusiast, this episode is packed with insights that can transform your relationships and deepen your understanding of yourself and others. Key Highlights: The concept of deep listening and its importance in today's world The eight-step process for effective deep listening Personal anecdotes and reflections on self-awareness The interplay between personality types and listening styles Don't forget to grab a copy of Emily's book, Deep Listening, and join the conversation about how we can all become better listeners! Subscribe to Typology for more insights on personality and relationships!