Ref Talk Radio

Burnie & PC have had some interesting experiences in their games recently, so the pair sit down to discuss NHL supervisors, half-games that start with a penalty shot, and what it's like to be called a "c***sucking motherf*****" by a coach.

Burnie & PC each worked one of the back-to-back games in a series over the weekend and turned their intermissions into a series of ref room chats. It should give you a glimpse into what happens between periods as the officials work through the game. Each game was followed up by a coaching session by the league assignor. Thanks to the other officials who participated!

Burnie and PC are together again on the mics! In this episode, they share some recent stories from both on and off the ice.

Burnie, missing his dear friend and co-host PC, sits down with Camille Forbes, an up-and-coming female official from Manitoba. Having recently worked a Canada West Women's game together, the two share some of their experiences coming up through different leagues in Manitoba and Camille shares her perspective, coming up as a female official.

In RTR's first in-person interview, Burnie and PC sit down with Brett Montsion, former MJHL, WHL, OHL, ECHL, AHL referee (and linesman?). Monty shares some of his stories about life on the road, and sheds some perspectives on the logistical side of life as a referee working toward pro hockey.

In a Q&A led by Hockey Manitoba, up-and-coming officials got to hear some incredible thoughts about the game from two NHL linesmen: Justin Johnson (57) and Ryan Galloway (82).

Burnie & PC chat about recent experiences from their games and recount the chaotic events surrounding their recent, but separate, road trips out to Dauphin, MB.

Burnie & PC sit down with one of Manitoba's finest officials over the past generation: Pat Gagnon of Brandon, Manitoba. Pat is a former Level VI official who worked a variety of national tournaments, as well as the WHL. He talks about his career and dishes out some words of wisdom for up-and-coming officials.

Burnie & PC discuss the new Hockey Canada Jr. A rules and procedures and how they've affected the games they've been part of so far this year.

We're going to back to our roots! Burnie and PC discuss the latest changes to the Hockey Canada rule book for the 2022 season, while providing some rationale and insight along the way.

Burnie & PC reflect on Season 2 of RTR, looking back on some memorable episodes and looking ahead to the next season of hockey.

Burnie & PC talk with the Loeppky family: Garth was a former WHL/IHL/AHL/Level 6 official and Hockey Manitoba RIC, Laura officiated in the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics, working the bronze game, and their two kids, Jackson and Rylyn are now involved in officiating themselves! Hear about the dynamics in a family of officials as well as some incredible stories from their impressive careers.

Burnie & PC talk with the Loeppky family: Garth was a former WHL/IHL/AHL/Level 6 official and Hockey Manitoba RIC, Laura officiated in the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics, working the bronze game, and their two kids, Jackson and Rylyn are now involved in officiating themselves! Hear about the dynamics in a family of officials as well as some incredible stories from their impressive careers.

Burnie & PC talk to WHL officials Corey Koop (referee) and Michael McGowan (linesman) about how fitness can lead to opportunities in your career. Their fitness has taken them to some impressive places, as McGowan lined in the IIHF World Juniors! Check out WhistlerSuperCamps.ca for info about the referee camp that they run out of BC for 12-16 year old officials in July!

Burnie & PC are joined by special guest, 13 year old Brady, who recreated the iconic RTR theme song using his own instruments! Brady is a passionate "first year" official who has been waiting to don the stripes since he was 7 years old! We also breakdown some of the recent events from the world of hockey and look forward to playoff time.

Burnie & PC continue their conversation with Scrivy & Croker about their careers and why they stay involved in the game.

In Part 1 of the interview, PC & Burnie chat with a couple of Manitoba Regional Referee Coordinators about the reduction in referee numbers for the 2021-22 season. Ben Croker (RRC - Brandon) and Kyle Scrivens (RRC - Interlake) are both High Performance officials with Hockey Manitoba and have refereed at the WHL and international levels.

Happy New Year! In the first episode of 2022, Burnie & PC discuss a recent Too Many Men call from an NHL game (Avalanche vs. Predators) and talk about the excitement as we move into the second half of the season.

Merry Christmas...everyone...even linespersons!

Happy Holidays from RTR to you and yours!

Ref Wife Radio...the takeover! Burnie and PC take their wives on the road to watch them work a Junior A game together. The wives give some live feedback with some thoughts of their own throughout the contest. This episode is dedicated to all of the significant others out there who let their partner's live at the rink!

Burnie and PC look back on Showcase Weekend, the time of year where all the Jr. A teams come to one location for a 3-day round-robin showdown, and some of the stories from past weekends. More accolades for past guest and friend of the show Amy Martin, who worked her first Jr. A game recently and has earned some pretty cool assignments...more to come on that!

S02E05 - Brett Roeland by Burnie & PC

This week, Burnie & PC sit down and catch up on officiating news from the past few weeks, then dissect some of their recent experiences on the ice.

We are honoured to speak with Hockey Canada's Manager of Officiating - Dan Hanoomansingh. What does a Hockey Canada manager do? What goals are they working towards to make the officiating world better? What does it take for an official to get to the top level? All this and more in this episode of Ref Talk Radio!

Burnie and PC talk about getting back on the ice as the regular season begins. A huge congratulations to Winnipeg's own Justin Johnson for working his first NHL game. There's also reaction to Tim Peel speaking publicly for the first time since his release from the NHL, as well as the female officials who cracked the CHL lineup.

Welcome back for Season 2 of RTR! Today, we announce our new partnership with Zebrasclub and we chat with Math and Gab about their business and how we will help each other and our fellow officials by working together. This is also our first bilingual episode! You can skip to 31:40 for the French version of the interview.

We bring in legal expert and fellow referee, Mark Alward, to discuss the NHL's decision to relieve Tim Peel of his officiating duties. Being the final episode of Season 1, Burnie & PC reflect on the past 20 episodes and infuse a little of their own history into the mix.

Burnie and PC sit down with fellow officials Chris Wood and Jeremie Gauvin to talk about their careers and some of the fond memories going through the officiating world together. Jeremie shares his own personal story about reaching his goal of working in the WHL and why he chose to give it up.

In this episode, we speak with Ryan Galley, Supervisor and D.O.P.S. for the MJHL, about his career as an official and how it has led to his involvement as a coach for elite officials and as an eye for the Department of Players' Safety.

We were so excited to sit down with linesman Kelsey Mahoney to talk about his experience officiating at the 2021 World Juniors. With an extensive resume, Kelsey offers his take on the world of officiating and offers some tips to up and coming officials.

We discuss some of the current hot topics from the NHL, and we couldn't help but reminisce and share some stories from the past when a mysterious caller dropped in!

In this episode, we talk with Chelsea Leskiw, an experienced off-ice official currently working the AHL and various junior leagues around Manitoba. She's got some great tips to keep the game flowing and to help you work better with your officiating partners. As always, we share some stories too!

We discuss the life of a rural referee with Level 6 official and WHL referee Karlin Krieger. Recent hockey events such as penalties and suspensions are also discussed, and don't miss this week's Never Have I Ever!

We sit down with Amy Martin, Level 5 Hockey Canada Official, to discuss the her career path, successes, road blocks, and opportunities for young and aspiring female officials. We also touch on a few video review situations from recent NHL games and the importance of keeping yourself engaged during the pandemic, having recently observed Bell Let's Talk Day to bring mental health to the forefront.

PC & Burnie talk with Mitchell Jeffrey, Principal of Hockey Winnipeg Referee Development and WPGrefs.com, about his work with grassroots officials. He's also got a new book coming out this summer entitled "How to Referee Hockey: It's not Just About the Rule Book".

PC & Burnie discuss some of the controversial plays from the 2021 World Junior Championship and the return of the NHL.

Linesman Ken Kile shares some crazy situations that he's experienced in his career. We also touch on the recently wrapped up World Junior Championship that occurred over the holidays.

We talk to Ken Kile, self-declared linesman-in-chief and not JFL! In Part 1, he talks about becoming a life-long linesman, the challenges of making your way through the ranks, and touches on some of the key skills young officials need to progress successfully. This episode is dedicated to the late Bob Vanstone, whose 45+ years of service to the game of hockey will not be forgotten!

We sit down with Trevor Peluk, Level 6 Hockey Canada and WHL referee, to talk about his experiences with advancement and what it took to get to the next level. You'll hear all about about starting out, experiencing set backs, and persevering in the interview. If you're a young official trying to get to the next level, this is the episode for you!

We speak with Mark Alward, Vice President of Officials for Hockey Winnipeg, about the development pathway for officials, supervision dos-and-don'ts, and the importance of staying hydrated with RSBs (referee sports beverages). We also highlight Rule 4.13(a) and its application when a goaltender is whistled for pre-mature substitution.

Officials talk about coaches all the time...but what do they say about us?! Find out, from a coach's perspective, as we're joined by high school hockey coach and coach instructor Kevin Landreville.

Big news from the IIHF and even bigger congrats to a couple Manitoba officials on their appointment to the 2021 World Junior Championship in Alberta. We also discuss a fitness study done by an official using the different officiating systems. Finally, a discussion around Rule 7.3(d) - interference form the bench.

Should young officials have to choose between reffing or lining? Do we need to specialize early on? Also, the case of the missing penalty signal has been solve!

Trick or Treat!? Join us as we look back on some good laughs, reflect on some recent experiences, and discuss another rule change (that we missed before).

How are officials supposed to navigate the hockey world during the COVID-19 pandemic? In this episode, we'll discuss new procedures and things we've noticed around the rink so far this year.

In this, the pilot episode, Burnie & PC discuss the 2020 Hockey Canada rule changes. Rules are judged as "onside" or "offside" based on the hosts' opinions on the change.

Welcome to Ref Talk Radio! By referees, for referees. Learn a little bit about this up-and-coming podcast by listening to this short trailer. And remember: Look good, feel good, ref good!