The Grey Scale

After a long winter break, The Grey Scale podcast is BACK, and to kick things off for our first anniversary, we brought in a very special guest - Katie Haan! Along with being an actor and Marymount alum, she holds a space for peer-led sex education on her TikTok, and has created her own podcast; “Your Gay Big Sis”! In this episode we dove into all things sex - The negative impact of abstinence-only education, how sex-Ed has a major impact on how we feel about our bodies, porn, controversies with age and sexual education, different types of attraction, and so so much more!

This week we interviewed Emma Palace - an artist and performer here in NYC, as well as a high school friend of Cierra's. We talked all about parent/child relationships when it comes to food and our habits around eating, the discrimination of size in theatre, binging, insecurities, resilience, and much more!

This week we interviewed Will Bartow - Will is currently studying at Columbia and working in marketing, and is also the partner of our very dear friend, Olivia (see episode 18). In this episode we discussed what it feels like to be complimented on weight loss as a result of disordered eating, the lack of conversation around body insecurities in the straight male community, comparing yourself to celebrities, modern-day male standards, and more!

This week we interviewed Macarena Ramos - a teaching artist working in public schools and foster care. She is also currently studying to get get her masters at NYU in Arts for Social Justice, Human Rights, and Education, through documentary film making. In this episode we discussed learned eating habits, “the last diet”, equating love and appearance, finding balance in nutrition, and so much more!

This week we interviewed Alex Drohobycky - a fellow Aries and a graduate of the Fashion Institute of Technology! In this episode, we discussed learned behaviors, self-love rituals, self expression by way of fashion, how to love your naked body, when parents have a hard time letting go, and much more!

We did it - We finally recorded a new episode! This is week we discussed Rebel Wilson (again), the difference between body positivity and fat positivity, living intuitively, and our plans for the Grey Scale's upcoming fall schedule.

This week we interviewed Ana Smith - a senior theatre major at Wright State University and a friend of the podcast! We spoke about college musical theatre programs, how to stand up for yourself within the performance community, weight fluctuation and the emotions that come with it, challenging your authorities, and more!

We took an impromptu break… but we're back with episode 27! This week we interviewed Sammy Taylor - a Queens-bred writer, creator of The Gold Collective anthology series, proud cat owner, and a coworker of Krissy's! In this episode we talked about how impactful words from family members can be, different beauty standards, not feeling like enough, the focus placed on female bodies, being “underweight”, and more!

This week we interviewed Kyleigh Hoye - an actor, playwright, composer, and friend of the podcast! We talked about trusting your body, “health” apps, how we view food and food “rules”, dermatillomania, dinner table trauma, and more!

This week, we interviewed Melanie Voorsanger - an activist and a creative pursuing sex education! We talked about doing your own research when it comes to your body, appreciating your body for what it can do for you, internal vs. external validation, the sexualization of women's bodies, and lots more!

This week, we are very excited to present our guest and specialist, Liris Crosse - Author of

Welcome back! This week we spoke with our next specialist - Lucia Pavone! Lucia is a somatic sex educator, pleasure instigator, and permission granter based in the Bay Area. We covered A LOT in this episode including: Learned fatphobic behavior, motherhood, celebrating physical and mental strength, colonization and it's effects on our current society, and all things sex! (⚠️ In this episode, there are lot of candid conversations about sexual acts, genitalia, and pleasure.)

This week we interviewed Gerilyn Brault - an actress and performer as well as a college professor in the San Diego area! We spoke about everything from chronic pain/fatigue and how lifelong illnesses affect your body image, to the fat-phobic discrimination in the world of musical theatre, to the responsibility that comes with mentorship, and so much more!

Welcome back to Season Two of The Grey Scale! This week we interviewed Nikki Shin - a friend of ours from college and a performer in NYC (and beyond!) We spoke about eating while working on a cruise ship, listening to your body's hunger cues, finding joy in exercise, nightmare dietitians, redefining your relationship with food, and more!

This week we closed out our first season of The Grey Scale Podcast! More will be coming your way in two weeks so stay tuned: And in the meantime please enjoy our chat this episode about all we've learned in the last six months, a summer clothing challenge, and how we can work together moving forward to end fatphobia. Thanks for listening!!  

This week we interviewed Shelby Solla - a Brooklyn-based playwright and a friend of the podcast! In this episode we talked about Body Neutrality, flaws and controversies within the Body Positivity movement, the Keto diet, internalized fatphobia, revamping our understanding of the word “midsized”, and so much more!!!

This week we interviewed Olivia Mattsey - a close friend of the podcast, and a performer here in NYC. In this episode we talked about “skinsecurities”, misconceptions when it comes to giving compliments, cat calling, and lots more!

This week we interviewed Tiana Williams - a performer getting her degree in Musical Theatre! In this episode we talked about forgiving yourself for those “slip ups”, the pressure performers have to fit into a certain physical “type”, society's attempt to shrink women (physically, emotionally, etc.), and tons more!

This week we interviewed Jeff Wagner - another close friend of Krissy's who works in digital media! In this episode, we dove into discussing Billie Eilish, comparing yourself to your friends, standards and stereotypes, Glee, the horrors of dating apps, and so much more!

This week we interviewed Emma Williams - a close friend of Krissy's and a domestic violence advocate! In this episode we discussed everything from Demi Lovato's battle with the Big Chill, to sex and the sexualization of our bodies, to the little things we can do to take better care of ourselves. Tune in for more! TW: Mentions of sexual/physical assault 

This week we interviewed McKay Murphy - a close friend of Krissy's who works in local politics! In this episode we talked about picky eaters, puberty, what it really means to eat intuitively, food deserts, dating, and so much more!

This week we interviewed Chloe Flynn - our youngest guest to date, and a close friend from Cierra's hometown! In this episode we touched on traumatic doctor visits, sex education, the shark tank that is high school, and why our bodies are nobody else's damn business. Tune in for more!

This week we interviewed Paola Robles-Vasquez - a coworker of ours, an actor, and a fashion icon (according to us!) In this episode we dug into the hard truths about the correlation between fatphobia and racism, how to use clothes for self-expression, retail trauma, and so much more!

This week we interviewed our second specialist, Mariella Deangelis - a licensed health and life coach and another college colleague of ours! In this episode we dove into everything health related - weight, nutrition, wholistic medicine vs. western medicine, how to heal your body with food, and so much more!

In this weeks episode, we sat down (just the two of us) to check back in and talk about some thoughts we've had since starting the podcast! We get into some light celebrity gossip, body neutrality, and even some current events. Tune in for more!

This week we interviewed Ian Fitzgerald - a dancer and performer based in NYC! In this episode we dove into the dance world, Broadway, and accepting your body in the context of sex and sexuality. Listen in for more!

This week we interviewed Lyndsi Skewes - a performer and a children's music teacher here in New York! In this episode we break down the word “flattering”, explore the world of dating, and talk about how to navigate body image through our ever-changing perceptions of health and nutrition. Tune in for more!!

Welcome back to the Grey Scale Podcast! This week we interviewed our very first specialist, Heather Bildman!  Heather is a personal trainer here in New York, as well as a friend of the podcast (yes, we met her in college). In this episode we addressed a lot of the prejudices in the world of fitness, as well as the dreaded BMI, and positive ways to shift your thinking around health and nutrition.  Tune in for more!!

This week we interviewed Jackie Castillo - a mommy of one and a small business owner! We touched on family dynamics, loving yourself unconditionally, motherhood, and the difficulties of putting yourself first. Listen in for more!!

This week we met with Peter Williams - an artist and creator based here in NYC! In this episode, we dove into the intensity of puberty (especially when it comes to developing disordered eating tendencies), the bridal industry and how brutal it can be, and of course, SHOPPING! Tune in for more!

We are so excited to introduce our guest for this week, Jae Brown! Jae is a singer and performer based in NYC. Identifying as non-binary trans femme, Jae uses they/them & she/her pronouns. This episode was an absolute joy to record as we dove into the world of performers, how words can affect us, and learning to love your body!

This week we interview Pnina Tobin: A certified Life Coach, self-proclaimed "fat-feminist", a mother of two, and Cierra's grandma! In this episode we talk about beauty standards from generations past, the "Fat Underground" and the Women's Movement of the 80's, and mother-daughter relationships. Listen in for more!

This week we spoke to Corinne Grahn- a friend of the Podcast and a colleague of ours! We get into quite a few issues including Fat-phobia and discrimination, more childhood traumas, and the impact that the diet industry has on our mental health. Tune in for more!

Welcome to The Grey Scale Podcast! In this episode we get into why we're here, what "The Grey Scale" is, and start the conversation (interview-style) of why we ALL struggle with our bodies - beginning with our own stories.