Welcome to The Short Side Option, a podcast about all things K-State sports.
Up first on the Kansas State 2023 Quick Pitch Preview Series, we take a look at K-State's quarterbacks, wide receivers, and tight ends.
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! On this episode of The Short Side Option, Dlew and I take a look back at Kansas State's Big 12 Championship win over TCU and talk about some of the favorite parts of that hard-fought win over the Horned Frogs. We also revisit our Brand Rankings of the New Big 12 and it's also time to hand out some awards on this episode of The Short Side Option—where we give out our end-season awards. We hand out THE SHORTIES to Offensive Player of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Unsung Hero, and the highly coveted ALL SHORTIE! All this and a lot more in this jampacked episode of THE SHORT SIDE OPTION!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! Just yours truly this week on The Short Side Option, as I look back at Kansas State's 47-27 victory over Kansas in the Sunflower Showdown and I also preview Kansas State's matchup with Texas Christian in the Big 12 Championship Game in Arlington this Saturday. All this, and more, in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! Dlew and I lookback at Kansas State's decisive 48-31 win over West Virginia in Morgantown and preview K-State's matchup against KU in the Sunflower Showdown! We also highlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND", give our thoughts on who's brand in the Big 12 is on the rise and who's brand is on the decline in our Babblin 'Bout Brands segment, and then wrap up with #AskTheICON! All this, and more, in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! Dlew is back with me as we break down Kansas State's dominating 31-3 win over Baylor and preview Saturday's matchup in Morgantown against the West Virginia Mountaineers. We also highlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND", give our thoughts on who's brand in the Big 12 is on the rise and who's brand is on the decline, and then wrap up with #AskTheICON! All this, and more, in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! Just yours truly here on this week's episode of The Short Side Option. I review K-State 34-27 loss to Texas and preview and predict Saturday's matchup with the Baylor Bears. . Lots to do and we're excited to have you on board with us here for our 100th episode of The Short Side Option podcast—let's get into it! This is The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, Delly gets back into the mix as we review Kansas State's dominating 48-0 win over Oklahoma State and preview a big matchup with Texas on Saturday. We also highlight another in the long line of WILDCAT LEGENDS in a segment we affectionally call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND". We also debut a new segment titled BABBLIN' BOUT BRANDS where we give our thoughts on the BRAND POWER of the New Big 12 before wrapping up this episode with #AskTheICON. This is The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, Quentin is pinch hitting for Dlew as we look back at K-State 38-28 loss to TCU and preview a big time matchup with Oklahoma State in Manhattan. We also answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew preview Kansas State's matchup with TCU in Fort Worth. This matchup pits #8 vs. #17 and the two top teams in the Big 12 Conference. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew review Kansas State's 10-9 win over Iowa State, as the Wildcats move to 5-1 and remain undefeated at 3-0 in Big 12 play. We also give some of our thoughts on Kansas State as they head into a much needed bye week and take a look back at our preseason Big 12 predictions as we hit the halfway mark of the season. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew review Kansas State's 37-28 win over over Texas Tech and preview K-State's matchup with the Iowa State Cyclones-- as the Cats look to move their record to 3-0 in Big 12 play. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew review Kansas State's 41-34 win over over Oklahoma and preview K-State's conference home opener on the in Manhattan against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew review Kansas State's 17-10 loss to Tulane and preview K-State's conference opener on the road in Norman against the Oklahoma Sooners. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company! Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! I had the opportunity to sit down with Jake Voegeli, Garrett Paulman, and Adam Krebsbach to talk with them about what is new with the brewery, some of their recent work and collaborations-- as well as what lies ahead for Manhattan Brewing Company with their future plans! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew review Kansas State's 40-12 win over the Missouri Tigers and preview K-State's Week 3 matchup with the Tulane Green Wave. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew review Kansas State's 34-0 win over the South Dakota Coyotes and preview K-State's matchup with former conference foe, the Missouri Tigers. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew review Kansas State's 34-0 win over the South Dakota Coyotes and preview K-State's matchup with former conference foe, the Missouri Tigers. We also spotlight another in the long line of Wildcat Legends in a segment we like to call "THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND" and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew take a look at Kansas State's week one opponent, the South Dakota Coyotes. We celebrate some of Kansas State's past legends as we highlight the six players being inducted in the Ring of Honor. We also take our swing at our Big 12 predictions, going through every game on the schedule to determine who will duke it out for all the marbles in Arlington. Let us know how you think the Big 12 will shake out this season! All this, and more, in this episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew take a look at the Kansas State defense. The defense is shaping up to be one of the best in the Big 12 and has plenty of star power to go around, as this unit is led by studs like Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Daniel Green, Julius Brents, and Ekow Boye-Doe. We break it all down on this episode of The Short Side Option!
This episode of The Short Side Option podcast is brought to you by our friends at Manhattan Brewing Company. Manhattan Brewing Company is entering their second year as the title sponsor of The Short Side Option and we couldn't be more excited to have them partner with us! Be sure to check out their list of upcoming events-- you can follow them on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/manhattanbrewing or on their website www.mhkbeer.com for all of the latest happenings at the brewery! In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew take a look at the Kansas State offense, providing position group breakdowns and analysis to get you up to speed on what the Wildcats will bring to the table here in 2022!
On this episode of The Short Side Option Podcast presented by Manhattan Brewing Company (www.mhkbeer.com) The ICON and Dlew are BACK to discuss a few of K-State's recent recruiting wins with Avery Johnson and Dylan Edwards entering the fold in K-State's 2023 recruiting class. We also take a look at the ever-changing landscape of conference realignment and what it means for K-State, the Big 12 and College Football as a whole. We also give our initial thoughts on the 2022 and answer listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment! All this, and more, in this episode of The Short Side Option podcast!
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, THE ICON and Dlew are BACK to break down the hiring of Jerome Tang as the 25th head men's basketball coach at Kansas State. We give a rundown of what to expect of what Jerome Tang will bring to the Kansas State program-- you'll easily be able to tell what THE ICON and Dlew think of the hire!
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, The ICON and Dlew look back at K-State's disappointing end of the season, as the Wildcats lose consecutive games to Baylor and Texas to close out the regular season. We also look to answer questions surrounding the future of the K-State offense. Is a potential change on the coaching staff in the cards?
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, The ICON and Dlew are back to breakdown K-State's 4th straight win, as the Wildcats surge past West Virginia 34-17. A big-time matchup with Baylor looms on the horizon as the Wildcats look to cap off their home campaign with a win over the Top 15 Baylor Bears. We also take a trip down memory lane and reminisce about a former WILDCAT LEGEND and answer listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment. All this and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, Chris and Dlew are back to review K-State's 35-10 victory over KU for the Wildcats 13th straight win over the Jayhawks. K-State takes on West Virginia in Manhattan as the 'Cats look to make it four straight wins and also end West Virginia's current five game winning streak over the Wildcats. The ICON and Dlew break it down and give you their predictions on this Big 12 matchup. No episode of The Short Side Option Podcast would be complete without highlighting another WILDCAT LEGEND and answering listener questions in our #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more, in this week's edition of The Short Side Option!
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, Chris and Dlew are back to review K-State's 31-12 win over Texas Christian and lookahead to Saturday's matchup in the Sunflower Showdown against KU. Voice of the Jayhawks and friend of the podcast Brian Hanni stops by and breaks down the Sunflower Showdown from the Jayhawks point of view. We also take a trip down memory lane and reminisce about a former WILDCAT LEGEND and answer listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment. All this and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, Chris and Dlew are back to review K-State's 25-24 win over Texas Tech and lookahead to Saturday's matchup against TCU. We also look at another WILDCAT LEGEND and answer listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment. All this and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
In this episode of The Short Side Option, The ICON and Dlew are back to review K-State's 33-20 loss to Iowa State and preview this Saturday's game on the road in Lubbock, Texas against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. We look back to recognize a WILDCAT LEGEND and answer your questions in the #AskTheICON segment! All this, and more, in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
I had the opportunity to sit down with Adam Krebsbach, Garrett Paulman, and Jake Voegeli-- the founders and co-owners of Manhattan Brewing Company in Manhattan, Kansas. This season, Manhattan Brewing Company got involved with The Short Side Option as our title sponsor of the podcast. I talked with these three to learn a little bit about how this trio came together and opened up Manhattan Brewing Company-- we talk about how they hatched the idea to begin this brewery in downtown Manhattan, as well as their plans for the future with Manhattan Brewing Company!
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, Chris and Dlew look ahead to K-State's showdown with Iowa State in their annual "Farmageddon" game. Crucial game for both programs as we get into the thick of conference play. Keys to the game, predictions, WILDCAT LEGENDS and Dlew issuing an ultimatum for Chris Klieman! All this, and more-- in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
The ICON and Dlew are back to review K-State's 37-31 defeat at the hands of the Oklahoma Sooners. We look back at this game and talk about some of the good that K-State did on the offensive side of the ball and some of the growing concerns on the defensive side of the ball. We also look back at a former K-State player in THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND and answer listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment. All this and more, in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
In this edition of The Short Side Option presented by Manhattan Brewing Company, Chris and Dlew are back to review K-State's conference opening loss to Oklahoma State and preview K-State's conference home opener against the Oklahoma Sooners. Dlew takes us back to remember a former K-State great in our weekly WILDCAT LEGEND spotlight and we also answer listener questions in this week's #AskTheICON segment. With this being potentially the last time that Oklahoma comes to Manhattan as a member of the Big 12, we reminisce on some of the great games and moments shared between K-State and OU. All this and more in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
We welcome Manhattan Brewing Company as the new title sponsor of The Short Side Option Podcast! We look back at K-State's 38-17 over Nevada as the Wildcats close out the non-conference portion of their schedule 3-0. The Wildcats open up the conference schedule on the road in Stillwater against the 3-0 Oklahoma State Cowboys. We dive into that matchup and provide our analysis and predictions. We also highlight another in the long line of WILDCAT LEGENDS and answer you, the listener's, questions in our #AskTheICON segment!
The ICON and Dlew are back to review K-State's 31-23 victory over Southern Illinois. We break down what went right for K-State in that one and how the Wildcats will plan to move forward with out Skylar Thompson at QB for the next few weeks following his injury. We preview K-State's matchup with the Nevada Wolf Pack, as they bring their high octane offense into Manhattan for a matchup of two 2-0 teams. No episode of The Short Side Option is complete without highlighting another in the long line of WILDCAT LEGENDS and answering listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment!
The ICON and Dlew review K-State's season opening 24-7 win over Stanford and preview the Wildcats' upcoming matchup against the Southern Illinois Salukis. We also look back at another in the long line of WILDCAT LEGENDS and answer listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment!
Chris and Dlew preview K-State's 2021 Season Opener against the Stanford Cardinal in Arlington.
The ICON and DLew are back to preview the defensive side of the ball for the Wildcats. We also give our game-by-game predictions for the 2021 season. Can the Wildcats rebound from a disappointing finish to 2020 and get back on the right track in 2021?
The ICON and DLew are BACK! We take a look at the offensive side of the football for the 2021 Kansas State Wildcats. We are both bullish on this group led by do-it-all running back Deuce Vaughn and an experienced quarterback in Skylar Thompson. This side of the ball figures to be a strength for the Wildcats in 2021.
Chris and DLew look back at K-State's regular season finale loss at the hands of the Texas Longhorns, 69-31. We also review the regular season in its totality and piece together what positives K-State can take into 2021 after ending the 2020 season on a five game losing streak. We get back into the mix as DLew reveals another in the long line of WILDCAT LEGENDS. We also discuss what has been a rough start for the Wildcats on the hardwood. Not a great stretch for K-State sports, but it's always a great time to listen to THE ICON and DLew on The Short Side Option!
FINALLY, DLEW HAS COME BACK TO THE SHORT SIDE OPTION PODCAST! We give our thoughts on K-State's recent losses at the hands of Iowa State and Baylor, give our predictions as we look ahead to the Wildcats regular season finale against Texas, and answer listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment. This is an episode that, quite frankly, you can't afford to miss.
The ICON is flyin' solo to bring you a look at the Big 12 Title race and break down K-State's big matchup on Saturday against Iowa State in Ames.
The ICON and special guest co-host NORM breakdown K-State's 37-10 loss to West Virginia and preview K-State's upcoming tilt with the Oklahoma State Cowboys on Saturday!
Chris and DLew are back to recap K-State's 55-14 thumping of the Kansas Jayhawks in the annual Sunflower Showdown. We then turn our attention to the West Virginia Mountaineers, as the 16th ranked Wildcats get back on the road as they head to Morgantown. We cap off this edition of The Short Side Option by highlighting another in the long line of Wildcat Legends and answering listener question in our #AskTheICON segment!
Chris and DLew breakdown the 118th edition of the Sunflower Showdown as K-State takes on KU. We highlight Carson Coffman as THIS WEEK'S WILDCAT LEGEND and answer listener questions in the #AskTheICON segment. All this, and more, in this week's episode of The Short Side Option!
Chris and DLew are back to recap K-State's 21-14 over TCU and get you up to speed on all of the happenings around the K-State football program during the bye week.
Chris and DLew look back at K-State's win against Texas Tech and preview this Saturday's matchup against the Texas Christian Horned Frogs in Fort Worth.
The Short Side Option is BACK to review K-State's thrilling comeback win against Oklahoma and preview K-State's conference home opener against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. We also pay homage to another in the long line of WILDCAT LEGENDS and answer your questions in a little segment we call #AskTheICON!
Chris and DLew give their analysis and predictions on K-State's Week 1 matchup with Arkansas State. We also introduce to you another WILDCAT LEGEND and answer your questions in #AskTheICON!
The ICON and DLew are BACK on a new episode of The Short Side Option! We take a look at the 2020 edition of the Kansas State Wildcats and preview the offense and defense. Kick off is a little over a week away!
Our very own recruiting expert Quentin Hoover joins The Short Side Option to review how K-State's 2020 recruiting class took shape on Signing Day. DLew also joins for our Liberty Bowl preview, as we take a look at Navy and make our predictions!
Chris and DLew give our quick thoughts on K-State's spot in the Liberty Bowl and review the loss on the hardwood to Marquette.