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The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. Disclaimer: The views expressed by the participants of this program are their own and do not represent the views of, nor are they endorsed by The Florida Bar, their respective officers, directors, employees, agents, or representatives. None of the content should be considered legal advice. As always, consult a lawyer.

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    • Nov 28, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 19 EPISODES


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    Be Authentic to Who You Are and Let Service Guide You - Judge Navarro

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2022 47:16


    In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Navarro, who discusses her unique background, learning about drug court and the ways to mentor others about wellness.REFERENCED RESOURCES:https://www.floridabar.org/member/healthandwellnesscenter/https://www.fla-lap.org/Judge Navarro on social media:FacebookInstagramThis podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #6882.

    Special Release - Part 2: Administrative Law Judges Lisa Nelson, Suzanne Van Wyk, and Lynne Quimby-Pennock

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2022 77:33


    The Florida Bar's Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. In this special episode, Judge Desai welcomes Administrative Law Judges Lisa Nelson, Suzanne Van Wyk, and Lynne Quimby-Pennock.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #6547.

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    Special Release - Part 1: Administrative Law Judges Cathy Sellers and Francine Ffolkes

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2022 56:33


    The Florida Bar's Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. In this special episode, Judge Desai welcomes Administrative Law Judges Cathy Sellers and Francine Ffolkes.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #6546.

    Be in Court, Prepared and On Time; Be Civil; and Be Straightforward - Chief Judge Munyon

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2022 33:14


     In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes the 9th Circuit Chief Judge Lisa Munyon who discusses her background and path to the bench. REFERENCED RESOURCES:https://www.law360.com/appellate/articles/1462291/fla-justices-mull-making-zoom-hearings-permanenthttps://issuu.com/orangecobarassociationorlando/docs/the_briefs_february_2022/14https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-news/rules-package-to-codify-remote-proceedings-argued/This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5853.

    Public Service is Always Challenging, Never Boring - Secretary Simone Marstiller

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 42:33


    In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes former judge and current Secretary of the Agency for Healthcare Administration, Simone Marstiller who discusses her diverse background and strong roots in public service.If you'd like to follow Secretary Marstiller on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SMarstillerThis podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5783. 

    You're Not an Island - Judge Meg Kerr

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2022 34:20


    In this episode, Judge Meg Kerr discusses her unique background and path to the Office of Judges of Compensation Claims, where she is assigned to Worker's Compensation cases. She emphasizes the importance of building relationships and making connections with colleagues and staff in order to be stronger professionally and to balance mental and emotional health and combat stress.References:The Florida Bar Mental Health and Wellness Center: https://www.floridabar.org/member/healthandwellnesscenter/The Worker's Compensation Section of The Florida Bar: https://www.flabarwcs.org/This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5742. 

    Reputation is Everything

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2021 33:14


    In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Sheri Chappell who discusses the importance of mentoring and always striving to be above the adversarial process.https://www.floridabar.org/prof/pmentor/https://home.innsofcourt.org/mentoringhttps://home.innsofcourt.org/AIC_PDFs/Mentoring/30245_Activity_Model_Mentoring_Program.pdfThis podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5693. 

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    Always Be Willing to Serve

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2021 37:46


    In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Justice Jamie Grosshans who is currently Florida's only sitting female Supreme Court Justice to discuss her path to the bench.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5632. 

    Ambassadors for Civility

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2021 47:22


    Join us as we open Season Two with two amazing sisters on the bench. Our host, The Honorable Hetal Desai, explores the careers of Southern District judges, Beth Bloom and Robin Rosenberg who share their paths to the bench which led to their collaboration and development of the nationally recognized “Civil Discourse and Difficult Decisions” program. This podcast has been approved for 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #5588.References:Civil Discourse and Difficult Decisions Distance Learning: Civics for Civic Engagement in the Federal Courts Civil Discourse: Social Media and Cyberbullying

    Lawyers Never Lose Their Appeal

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2021 87:33


    Join us as we wrap up Season One with the ultimate legal professionalism #girlsquad! Our host, The Honorable Hetal Desai, delves deep into the careers of female judges who serve in The Florida Bar's Standing Committee on Professionalism (SCOP). Be inspired and motivation by the paths of Judges Miesha Darrough, Gisela Then Laurent, Daliah Weiss, Patricia Barksdale and Carolyn Bell.This podcast has been approved for 1.5 hours of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 1 hour of Professionalism Credit. Course #5233.

    You Have to Understand What You Are Fighting For - Judge Marcia Morales Howard

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2021 31:55


    Judge Howard shares her journey to the bench as well as her passion for performing Naturalization Ceremonies and promoting Civics education. This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #4600.

    You Cannot Be Afraid of Doing Things for the First Time - Judge Patricia Seitz

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2021 50:42


    The Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism welcomes Judge Patricia Seitz, the first female Florida Bar President to discuss how to shatter glass ceilings.This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #4501.

    Judge Jessica Costello--Mentors, Friendtors, and Advocates

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2020 31:51


    Judge Costello shares her journey to the bench and the importance of mentoring and giving back.This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #4360.

    Encouragement and Support Makes a Difference--Judge Nina Ashenafi Richardson

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2020 34:12


    Judge Ashenafi Richardson shares her trailblazing story of being a first generation immigrant attorney and her path to the bench.This podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #4315.

    Disagree Without Being Disagreeable - Judge Andrea Wolfson

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2020 29:08


    Judge Andrea Wolfson discusses the importance of civility, congeniality and community in the legal profession.REFERENCES:Friendship between Justices Scalia and Ginsberg:What we can learn from Ginsburg’s friendship with my father, Antonin Scalia - The Washington PostGinsburg And Scalia: 'Best Buddies' - NPRArticle about a Prison’s Book Club similar to the one referenced by Judge Wolfson: Success Inside and Out: A Program for Women in Prison - NAWJThis podcast has been approved for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #4223.

    Make No Apologies—Judge Rachel Nordby

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2020 34:13


    The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism welcomes Judge Rachel Nordby to share her experience and advice on balancing family and the bench.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of General CLE Credit, 0.5 hours of Bias Elimination Credit, and 0.5 hours of Professionalism Credit. Course #4141.

    This... is Never Contemplated

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2020 3:02


    From The Florida Bar's Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism comes a new podcast about gender bias in the judiciary and the practice of law.

    Be Curious, Be Bold, and Take the Leap - Dean Laura A. Rosenbury

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 1970 51:11


    In the second installment of this season's “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Laura A. Rosenbury of the University of Florida, Levin College of Law. Dean Rosenbury talks about her journey from rural America to Harvard to the flagship law school in Florida. Learn about how UF Law has climbed to and remained in the top 25 law schools in the nation (and # 1 in Florida) by not only upping its game academically, but also by increasing the diversity of its faculty and student body. Listen to all the ways the GatorLaw Nation is helping UF Law students get practical experience and learn about professionalism.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of General CLE credit, and 1 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7219.

    The Making of a Good Lawyer- Dean Erin O'Hara O'Connor

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 1970 47:17


    In the first installment of this season's “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Erin O'Hara O'Conner, who discusses her role as the Dean of FSU College of Law and how she got there. This episode explores the changes in law students and teaching methods over the years, and how to prevent burnout in the legal profession.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7182.

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