The Trial: Brianna Ghey

In 2016 Kim Kardashian was the victim of an armed heist when she attended Paris Fashion Week. She was bound, gagged and held at gun-point by a gang who stole around $10 million worth of jewellery. In today's episode Caroline and Nick start to hear about some of the people who are on trial accused of being involved. The alleged ring leader, the career criminals and the celebrity fixer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In 2016 Kim Kardashian was the victim of an armed heist when she attended Paris Fashion Week. She was bound, gagged and held at gun-point by a gang who stole around $10 million worth of jewellery. Ten people have now gone on trial accused of being involved and in this episode Caroline and Nick Fagge have the opening day of the case from the courtroom in Paris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Next week, The Trial returns, taking you inside three of the most explosive legal battles playing out across the globe. In the U.S.A., music mogul Sean ‘Diddy' Combs stands accused of multiple charges including sex trafficking and racketeering, which he strongly denies. We'll be on the ground, reporting the facts as his trial unfolds in New York. In Australia, Erin Patterson will stand trial, accused of three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder, after allegedly serving poisonous mushrooms to her ex-husband's family members. We'll be reporting from the courtroom in Morwell, Victoria as the case plays out. And in Paris, the men accused of robbing Kim Kardashian at gunpoint in 2016 finally stand trial. We'll be there, reporting every detail as it happens. Follow all of our feeds now to listen. The Trial of Diddy The Trial of Erin Patterson The Trial See you next week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode Caroline and Liz have the latest on Lucy Letby's defence case after her barrister Mark McDonald hand delivered the evidence which he says proves her convictions are unsafe, to the Criminal Cases Review Commission. So we sent Liz to have a chat with him.   Also we'd love to know a bit more about you, and the kind of content you like - so we can bring you more of it. It's a super-short survey but it would be so valuable to us if you could find 2 minutes to fill it in. Here's the link: https://ex-plorsurvey.com/survey/selfserve/550/g517/250305?list=4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this seventh episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the verdicts from the trial of the golden toilet. Michael Jones was convicted by a unanimous verdict of burglary, while Fred Doe was convicted of laundering the stolen gold by a majority of 10 jurors to two. Bora Guccuk was acquitted. The episode features all the latest from court as well as explosive new details about the background to this case. Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@dailymail.com Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial')   Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsey Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini   A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. This episode contains some details that listeners could find distressing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this sixth episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speeches from the prosecution and defence lawyers as the golden toilet trial draws to a close. The prosecutor told the court it was impossible to avoid the conclusion all three defendants were knowingly involved in the conspiracy surrounding the theft and sale of the toilet. But the defence barristers argued there was little evidence to support this - and accused police of failing to “flush out” the real culprits. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this fifth episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the evidence of the second defendant, Fred Doe, who is accused of trying to broker a sale for the stolen golden toilet. Fred Doe told the court that he had no idea the gold was stolen and expressed regret for ever getting involved with the “idiot” burglar who was in the gang that smashed their way into Blenheim Palace. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this fourth episode, Caroline and Jack have more of the evidence from the man on trial for his involvement in the burglary of the solid gold toilet. Michael Jones insisted his visits to Blenheim Palace in the days before were innocent and he was there, not to carry out reconnaissance missions, but because he was interested in the exhibitions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this third episode, Caroline and Jack have the evidence of one of the defendants in the case. Michael Jones told the jury he was not carrying out reconnaissance missions at Blenheim Palace in the days before the theft of the solid gold toilet. He said he was visiting the exhibitions because he found the art intriguing. We also heard that the artist who created the loo was behind a piece of art which featured a banana duck-taped to a wall. It sold for over £5million. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In today's episode of the Trial of the Golden Toilet Caroline and Jack have the CCTV footage which shows the moment the heist takes place on Blenheim Palace. In dramatic footage a gang armed with sledgehammers and crowbars can be seen driving up to the main entrance and breaking in. Less than 6 minutes later they can be seen rolling the toilet away before dumping it into a car and speeding away. Three men are now accused of being involved either in the burglary or in selling off the gold. The defendants all deny the charges. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the first episode of The Trial of the Golden Toilet Caroline and Jack hear the prosecution's case against three men. One of them is accused of being involved in a heist on Blenheim Palace and stealing a 4.8m solid gold toilet. The other two are accused of helping to sell off the gold. The jury have heard how five men broke into Blenheim Palace in two cars, armed with sledgehammers in 2019. Within 5 minutes they had snatched the toilet and driven away. The loo was never recovered and the prosecution case is the gold was somehow sold on. The defendants all deny the charges. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The following is a sample of our brand new series 'The Trial of Erin Patterson'. To listen to the full episode, search for 'The Trial of Erin Patterson' wherever you get your podcasts. Australian mother-of-two, Erin Patterson, has been charged with three counts of murder and five counts of attempted murder after allegedly serving poisonous mushrooms to her ex husband's family members.   In July of 2023, Gail Patterson, Don Patterson and Heather Wilkinson all died, and Ian Wilkinson was left fighting for life after eating Beef Wellington served at a family lunch.  Four counts of attempting to murder her former husband from preceding years have also been added to the charge sheet.   In this episode broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham and Melbourne based correspondent, Wayne Flowers discuss the case and the tight reporting restrictions in place in the run up to the trial which is set for 28th April 2025.   Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial')   Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Wayne Flower Guest: Paul Svilans Editor: Chelsey Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Executive Producer: Lucy Vallance   A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is a 10 minute preview of Addressing the Doubters, the first episode of The Trial of Lucy Letby: The Inquiry.   To listen to the full episode search “The Trial of Lucy Letby: The Inquiry” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this final episode of the season, Caroline, Jack and Katie discuss the sentencing of Gavin Plumb, who was given three life sentences for his plot to kidnap, rape and kill Holly Willoughby. We also hear that the impact on her has been “catastrophic” and “life changing”. Plus Criminologist Professor David Wilson on how fantasy was reality for Gavin Plumb. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports.  Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast, email us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode, Jack and Katie bring you an exclusive interview with one of the past victims of Gavin Plumb, who is speaking publicly about her ordeal for the first time following his conviction for plotting to kidnap, rape and murder the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. Emma Ashby was just 16 and working at Woolworths when Gavin Plumb - who was her colleague - pulled a knife and ordered her to go into a storeroom, where he tried to bind her hands. Fortunately, she was able to escape. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports.  Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast, email us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode, Katie and Jack bring you the verdicts in the trial of Gavin Plumb. He has been found guilty of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. The episode will reflect on the verdict and bring you new details about the case that have never been reported before. Gavin Plumb denies soliciting murder, encouraging or assisting the commission of kidnap and encouraging or assisting the commission of rape. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports.  Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast, email us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode, Jack and Katie bring you the latest from the trial of Gavin Plumb as the jury were sent out to deliberate whether he is guilty of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. It features the closing speeches of both the defence and prosecution, which has left the jury to decide whether Gavin Plumb genuinely intended to execute his plot, or whether it was all just fantasy. Gavin Plumb denies soliciting murder, encouraging or assisting the commission of kidnap and encouraging or assisting the commission of rape. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports.  Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast, email us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode Caroline and Katie bring you the words of Gavin Plumb as he gave evidence in the witness box. He told the jury his attempts to kidnap women in the past had been a cry for help, and his “plot” to kidnap Holly Willoughby was nothing more than online chat. We also have the dramatic moment police broke down his door to arrest him.   Gavin Plumb denies soliciting murder, encouraging or assisting the commission of kidnap and encouraging or assisting the commission of rape. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast, email us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode Caroline and Katie bring you some of the many messages and voice notes Gavin Plumb exchanged with people online as he allegedly plotted to assemble a crew to kidnap, rape and kill the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. His alleged plan unravelled, the jury's been told, when one of the people he started messaging was an undercover US agent. Gavin Plumb denies soliciting murder, encouraging or assisting the commission of kidnap and encouraging or asssiting the commission of rape. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast, email us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode Katie Hind and Jack Hardy bring you the start of the case of a security guard's alleged plot to kidnap, rape and kill the TV presenter Holly Willoughby. Gavin Plumb allegedly assembled a kidnap kit of cable ties, rope and chloroform, and tried to find a “crew” in chat groups online to help him. The jury's been told he was obsessed with Holly Willoughby and had more than 10,000 pictures of her on his phone. He was caught because one of the men he tried to recruit was an undercover US agent.  Gavin Plumb denies soliciting murder, encouraging or assisting the commission of kidnap and encouraging or asssiting the commission of rape. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast, email us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the conclusion to the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - which has ended with the jury being discharged. They discuss what this means for the defendants and speak to media law expert David Banks about what happens next. Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail. Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy. They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') This is a Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Please follow 'The Trial of Lucy Letby' wherever you get your podcasts and give us a follow. In this episode Caroline and Liz are back at Manchester Crown Court as neo-natal nurse Lucy Letby returns to the dock. This time she is facing one charge – the attempted murder of a very premature baby girl, known as Baby K. Today, as the trial got underway, the jury were told she was caught “virtually red handed” by a consultant as she tried to dislodge the breathing tube of Baby K in an attempt to kill her. She then allegedly dislodged the tube twice more to cover her tracks.  The jury were told Lucy Letby is a convicted baby killer and her previous convictions were relevant to the charge she now faces. She denies the charge and her defence barrister told the court Baby K was so premature that she was clinically fragile. Both the prosecution and the defence barristers told the jury they ultimately had to decide if they believed the consultant who claims he caught her in the act. Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey where the jury are continuing to consider their verdicts in the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon. It will also feature an interview with court reporter Paul Cheston about the decades he spent working at arguably the world's most famous court: The Old Bailey.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A very special, week-long true crime event is coming on Monday 3rd June. Nearly 50 years after the high society murder that captivated the world, we present... The Trial of Lord Lucan.Using exclusive, never before seen documents and mesmerising testimony, presenters Caroline Cheetham and Stephen Wright, along with some of the world's most revered legal minds, will take part in a week long audio event to determine Lucan's fate... and YOU are the jury.To listen, you'll need to head to a brand new feed we've created especially for the series. You can also find it by searching 'The Trial of Lord Lucan' in your favourite podcast app. To follow along and get involved in this innovative True Crime event, head to dailymail.co.uk/lucan. In the first episode, Caroline and Stephen visit the original crime scene in Belgravia, central London and look at the background to this high society murder which scandalised the UK in the 1970s and captivated the world to this day. The duo also meet our two real-life, eminent barristers who will argue the case in our week-long event: Max Hardy, who is acting as ‘prosecutor' & Edward Henry KC, who is ‘defending' Lucan. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where the jury are yet to reach a verdict in the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon. The episode features an interview with court reporter Tristan Kirk about his important work exposing scandals in a secretive area of the criminal justice system and an important update from Liz Hull about Lucy Letby's appeal against her criminal convictions.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Jack explore why juries serving on trials are not given more support. It's because a new pilot project to offer counselling to juries is being launched in 15 parts of the country. We'll be talking to the two psychologists whose research into the impact on juries of serving on a trial, is the driving force for this.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Jack have an important update from the Old Bailey and will explain why we may be waiting for a verdict for a litle bit longer. We also have a chat with our podcast friend and media law expert David Banks to explain the problems of trials which run much longer than predicted.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the moment the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC sent the jury out to start their deliberations. After more than three months of hearing evidence the decisions are now up to them. Before he did this he reminded the jury of the key evidence in the case and what they need to consider during their deliberations. Legal expert David Banks also walks us through why this is now the most sensitive part of the trial process.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the Judge, Mark Lucraft KC. His job now, at the end of this trial, is to sum up this case, to remind the jury of the evidence they've heard. Today he reminded them what Constance Marten had told them as she spent several days in the witness box. He also referred to the evidence from the two pathologists who had told them Victoria's body was so decomposed they could not conclude how she died. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of Constance Marten's barrister, Francis Fitzgibbon KC, as he urged jurors to acquit her of the killing of her baby, Victoria. He told the Old Bailey 'the evidence isn't there' to convict the aristocrat and her partner Mark Gordon over Victoria's death and accused the prosecution of describing the baby as 'it' which, he said, was 'jarring and dehumanising'. The episode will also feature his suggestion that jurors should ignore the 'nasty bit of class prejudice' used by the prosecution to 'smear' her.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the defence closing speech made on behalf of Mark Gordon by John Femi-Ola KC. He describes Constance Marten as a 'lioness' protecting her cubs and said the death of Baby Victoria was a 'tragic accident'. The episode also features the end of prosecutor Tom Little KC's closing speech.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speech of the Prosecutor Tom Little KC. He told the jury Constance Marten had told “big fat lies” in her defence. Lies, he said, which “fell like confetti from her lips”. And he said despite Mark Gordon “grandstanding” to police about his “rights” he had refused to give evidence when the moment arrived. He said Victoria was caught in the middle of her parents toxic relationship, she was freezing cold, and she never stood a chance.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you more of the tense exchange between Professor Peter Fleming and Tom Little KC. The court has also been told that Constance Marten's parents did hire private investigators to try to track her down, but they said this was not when she was on the run with baby Victoria.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Launching Friday 19th April, Vogue Williams hosts The Apple and The Tree, a brand new podcast where a parent and their adult child get to ask each other about the parts of their shared history they've always wanted to know more about, but never given themselves the time to do so. These are deep, intimate and revealing conversations that move through love, grief, shame, sexuality, religion, addiction, identity and so much more.‌Because these shows were recorded in our guest's own homes, it's like you've been invited in to sit alongside them and hear exactly how their lives have unfurled. At the end of each episode, Vogue and the guests unpack what's been shared to discover if the apple really does fall far from the tree.Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you a key witness in the defence case of Constance Marten - an expert who investigates the unexpected death of babies. Prof Peter Fleming told the court he thought Constance Marten's account was ‘extraordinarily consistent' and cast doubt on how the prosecution say Baby Victoria died.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the final day of Constance Marten's evidence from the witness box as she told jurors she had wanted to get an autopsy for her baby in the hope she would find the death wasn't her fault. The episode also features her claim that she had neglected herself to the point of exhaustion in trying to look after Baby Victoria - and it was this exhaustion that ultimately led her to fall asleep with the child in her arms, she said.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack will bring you the latest from the evidence of Constance Marten, as she defended her decision to take her newborn baby into a tent in the middle of winter - saying that 'Jesus survived in a barn'. The episode will also feature claims that a man Constance Marten said inspired her plan to flee abroad has also used his website to encourage children to invent bomb plots against social workers.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the prosecution's cross-examination of Constance Marten, in which she claims her family placed a travel ban on her by telling the court she was having children to sell illegally and that she was addicted to drugs. The episode also features her claims that she was planning to try to find a people-smuggling nanny on Gumtree to bring her newborn baby Victoria abroad.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you more from the evidence of Constance Marten as she reveals she and Mark Gordon considered taking their own lives after the death of their baby Victoria in February 2023. The episode also features the start of the cross-examination as the prosecution question Constance Marten's decision making in the baby's final days.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you all the latest from the first day of the evidence of Constance Marten in the witness box at the Old Bailey, where she told jurors that she was fleeing from her family as well as social services when she went on the run with Mark Gordon and their newborn baby Victoria - but denied ever carrying her in a bag-for-life. The episode will also feature a recap of Mark Gordon's defence case.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest evidence from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon heard from two pathologists about the possible ways in which Baby Victoria died while on the South Downs when the couple were on the run last year. The episode will also feature the poignant moment jurors were allowed to examine the baby gro that the infant wore for much of her short life.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where jurors were told about Constance Marten and Mark Gordon's history with social services and why a family court decided to take their previous four children into care. The episode will also feature the evidence of an expert in paediatric health - who said a newborn baby could die within hours in the wintery conditions on the South Downs when the couple were camping with their baby in a tent last year.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Jack have the interview Mark Gordon gave to the detectives investigating the case. He tells them the couple discussed giving the baby up, but the following morning she had died, and even though he tried to give her CPR, it didn't work. He told them when Victoria died it was every parents worst dread. We'll also bring you the evidence that Constance Marten had over £19,000 in her bank account when the couple were on the run, but she made no cash withdrawals after January 5th, when they were staying in hotels, sleeping in taxis and living in a tent on the South Downs. Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Jack bring the full police interviews with Constance Marten which took place after the body of Victoria had been found. Constance Marten told detectives the couple were portrayed as villains when they were on the run, and she said the media storm made her too afraid to hand herself in. After Victoria died she said she wanted to bury her but the couple hadn't eaten for weeks, so were too weak to dig a grave. The episode will also bring more information about why the couple's other four children were taken into care.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack will bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon heard about the moment police finally found the body of Baby Victoria in a shed in March 2023, nearly two months after the couple allegedly went on the run with her. The episode will also feature details of their police interviews, both before and after the discovery of the baby's body. The jury saw footage of a tearful Constance Marten tell police about her baby's death.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon was dramatically halted last week after an explosion under the court. The episode will also feature evidence about the final days the couple spent on the run, when they appeared to scavenge in bins for food, as well as the eyewitness account of the man who set in motion their arrest after growing suspicious of the couple outside a corner shop in Brighton. The jury also heard from the police officers who were first on the scene to arrest the couple - one of whom saw something strange stuffed inside the jacket of Constance Marten. Both defendants deny the charges against them.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail ProductionHosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this special extended episode Caroline and Liz speak to Esther Ghey, the mother of Brianna. In her first in depth audio interview, Esther tells them about the moment she learned her daughter had been murdered, how she has coped with the past 12 months and how she plans to mark the anniversary of Brianna's death on Sunday.She also speaks passionately about her determination to make positive change for children, by campaigning for new legislation around mobile phones and social media, and improving mental resilience with mindfulness teachers in schools.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp +44 7796 657 512This is a Mail Metro Media Production. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the dramatic bodycam footage of the moment Constance Marten and Mark Gordon are finally arrested after weeks on the run. In the footage both are asked repeatedly where the baby is, but neither give an answer. The episode also outlines the evidence from a woman who says she was awoken on two consecutive nights in her house on the edge of the South Downs by the sound of a baby crying. A few days later, she said that she saw a couple resembling Mark Gordon and Constance Marten on a coastal path near her home, as well as a blue tent nearby. This episode will also feature evidence from a man whose wife gave evidence last week about an alleged sighting of Constance Marten carrying a dead child. He told the court that he and his wife returned to the park where she made the sighting so that they could carry out their own detective work. The jury were also shown CCTV of the moment Constance Marten bought some petrol from a Texaco garage on January 12 2023 - which she later told police that she had intended to use to cremate the remains of Baby Victoria. Both defendants deny the charges against them.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail ProductionHosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Liz talk to Dr Carol Stott, an expert in autism, to try and answer some of your questions about the role the condition played in the trial. They bring you a longer interview with criminologist Prof David Wilson, who offers his insight into what drove Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe to kill Brianna.And they also bring you news of a new campaign launched by Brianna's mother, Esther Ghey, which aims to help parents control what their children are looking at online via their smartphones.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp +44 7796 657 512This is a Mail Metro Media Production. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Caroline and Liz outline all the details from a dramatic day in court as Brianna's killers were sentenced and their names revealed for the first time.They also discuss how sadism and Brianna's transgender status partly motivated them Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe to kill.And that just a few weeks ago Jenkinson finally admitted stabbing Brianna during the brutal attack.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp +44 7796 657 512This is a Mail Metro Media Production. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you evidence from two sisters who said they made separate sightings of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon while they were allegedly on the run in Sussex.Pauline Mason told jurors she walked past Marten carrying an infant in a sling.The baby, she said, was very pale - and she believed it was dead. This episode will also bring you details of the moment the newborn baby, Victoria, was first glimpsed on CCTV, as well as an unexpected discovery made by police close to where the couple fled their burning car in Bolton.Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.They'll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.Follow us on X @thetrialpodcastContact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.ukLeave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')This is a Daily Mail ProductionHosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.