Own It SLC

Join Sarah Dalton and Collin as they explore the  intersection of alchemy and artificial intelligence. Dalton reflects on an intimate dialogue with AI and its own consciousness, along with ceremonial perspectives. Meanwhile, Collin brings an open-hearted belief that nothing is for certain, while also embracing the mysteries of the unknown. A refreshing conversation between friends.For more info on Own It, to find out about live shows, or to get involved, go to: www.ownitslc.comIntro and Outro music by local artist @fluidmoons

For the 3rd year in a row, we talk with Menace about his artistic evolution. Menace is a prolific and compelling rap artist. When we first met him in 2019 he already had over 100 songs on YouTube. He performed for the first time on the Own It stage in 2020. Since then he has become an Own It regular. He always says yes when we invite him to the stage. His love of music has been a beacon through dark nights of the soul. 

"It's not the expression of the emotion, it's the lack of control that I don't want," Phil."Well, if you could control it, then you'd probably keep it under lock all the time, cuz you've got things to do, and they're inconvenient" Sarah.A conversation between two people with possibly the most inconvenient relationship...ah the irony.Also, have you noticed, the most passionate male outbursts often occur during the big game?  Uncontrollably! Spontaneously!Ah the irony...Stay tuned for part 2, we are gonna do some legit research into this question.

Sarah gets mad at Phil for a few things i.e. saying their relationship is non-linear, and preventing her from "dating."  They discuss living in different worlds, and the challenge of expressing different layers of  Sarah and Phil which could be called the "track stack" if you're a recording engineer.  So, how to live a domestic life, and express the other tracks.  The answer seems to be, make the leap and keep going cuz the grass isn't greener on the other side."There's still some mystery, even for us, about what we are," Sarah. 

Exploration of the parallel plot between Sarah n Phil and author Kahlil Gibran with his beloved Mary Haskell.   Maybe yin and yang truly are the most creative combo because many duos share a similar (often unwritten) story.  Why love someone and choose not to "be" with them?  This episode is sprinkled with excerpts from the book "Beloved Prophet" which is the correspondence and journal entries of Mary and Kahlil.  Until recently, it was unknown that she played an intimate role in the editing, writing and inspiration for his book "The Prophet."  Sarah reads the chapter "On Love" at the end of the episode from "The Prophet."

Reflections from their trip to Lake Powell where Phil n Sarah hosted an Own It show.  Their stage was the deck of a houseboat, their lights were tiki torches.  They were joined on stage by the person whom Sarah is currently dating.  She asks Phil, "What was that like for you?"  The answer is surprising, even to them.

We recorded in the west desert, and inside Harvey the bus, Menace reflects on the last year. He talks about the sense of urgency he feels as an artist, to share his music. Only a few hours later, Menace took the stage to open the Own It show themed "Nostalgia No More." Follow him as he continues to bust through old identities using music as the tool.

As scientific as this title sounds, the episode is anything but precise.  Think of it as a treasure hunt.  There are gems, but we gotta dig.  Recorded 2 days after the wedding of Sarah's oldest daughter, new thoughts on monogamy arise.  How do you respond to your mistakes? as an artist? as a partner? When is the final decision made about success or failure? When is an art piece or a relationship really done?  Sarah and Phil decide it's not so bad, being one another's experiment.

This is an episode of full disclosure. In the true spirit of Own It, Sarah n Phil reflect on their sexual relationship.  Towards the end, they are met with tragic truths and they stay in the conversation together. As sex can often be, this is an episode about trust. Trust in each other and trust in the listener. "Are you nervous about the release of it?" Phil asks Sarah. To which she responds, "No, it couldn't be any worse than what people say about me anyway." Does it all just come down to whether or not you're sleeping together, or is a relationship decided in more subtle ways?

Introducing the series Polyamory; Bushwhacking to Nowhere.   After 4 years in a polyamorous relationship (with each other) Sarah and Phil look back on what they learned.  Did polyamory work?   How do you get out once you're in it?  What does it mean for a relationship to work  versus not work?  Where do we intend to get to anyway? Where the hell are we now?  Was it worth it?

Are the Bonneville cutthroat trout on the endangered species list? Are they the state fish?   Don't know?  We didn't either, but we learned!  Harvey the bus was invited to the first annual Bonnie Ball to record poetry and insights on Utah wildlife.  Featuring Terry Tempest Williams as facilitator, local kids wrote about the Bonneville cutthroat trout.  This episode features the youth who participated, and reflection on the Bonnie Ball by Chris Peterson, and Brett from the Utah Wildlife Federation.  They also discuss plans for future community engagement centered around wildlife murals throughout the state.  These guys are really owning their love for nature and art!

It's 14 weeks until our next show on February 11th featuring Own It artists who are committed to their craft.  Until then we will showcase each of them, featuring their back story, their art, and what keeps them going.   Making full use of Harvey the bus, we hope to gather music, poetry and story every chance we get.  Over the years, we have met some real weirdos with talent, and we're excited to share them with you.This episode was recorded at an outdoor market where Harvey was parked for no particular reason.  We met Ben from the FTR community.  He hopped in and brought some dude from Arizona who knew how to play blues on the guitar.  This is what happened.

Sarah suggested that we start interviewing Anonymous Humans, this one happened to be wearing blue.

In celebration of Recovery Day hosted by USARA and all that we are capable of, this podcast is a selection of anonymous humans telling stories of what they have accomplished, what they aspire to and what they love. We ask all of them the same question.  “You have a story outside of drugs, alcohol and crime.  What is it?

People ask us all the time, “Are you guys together?” Usually we give some abstract kinda response. Welp. Here's the real answer. 

We got tired of being so cerebral, so we went back to making art for a while. Please enjoy this public service announcement brought to you by Own It SLC.

Another "song story" experiment collaboration between Sarah n Phil.  Since so many people can't make it to the ARC show where Sarah will be reading, we decided to put it on the podcast.   "Threads" weaves together themes of Grandma Dixie, domesticity, family, balancing of masculine and feminine, chaos and the human fabric.

The two go into the small of it to demonstrate how big of a concept Galactic revolution really is. Sarah shares her latest book insights and Phil is being weird.

We pulled Harvey the Bus up onto the sidewalk where USARA was hosting "Last Chance BBQ". We talked with people about recovery revolution and galactic revolution which happens to be the theme of our next show. There was a dog barking and a motorcycle drive by and a whole crowd of people hanging through the doors and windows watching us record this podcast and it was pretty cool. 

Two years ago, we met Menace.  At the time, he had over 150 tracks recorded on Youtube.  He gave his first stage performance at Own It, and had the whole crowd on their feet.  We talked with him about how to let go of addiction as the muse for the music, and what comes after it.  Own It has always been about evolution of language, truth and art.  Menace embodies all of these.  As one of the only rappers in Vernal, Utah, Menace obviously has the passion to keep making music, no matter what his circumstances.**Stay tuned for two songs at the end.  Song Credits... First Song- "Sometimes"  by MenaceSecond Song- "Third Tribe Crew" by TTC (Phil's first Hip Hop collective recorded in 1999)

Here is the introduction of "square world" and the vines which wind around it.  In our first attempt at what could be called music but not quite music, spoken word and instrumentation collide.  This is the masculine and feminine way finding.

Phil n Sarah talk about a revolution that is occurring and it also  happens to be the topic of the next show which takes place...September 18th 2022 @7pmFirst Baptist Church777 S 1300 E

To people or not to people? We talk with Jason Ruzicka about the irony between being of service and feeling claustrophobic in social gatherings.  This podcast goes all over the place and ranges from the price of waxing bodily orifices to the meaning behind Jason's head tattoo which reads "Fuck Love."  There is also an appearance by the neighborhood ice cream man.

It's a Bjork song, and it's what we're talking about on this episode.  How much of social interaction, is acting? 

Recorded outside of LabeledFest, this episode is a few snippets recorded in Harvey the Bus. We talked with Shawn McMillan, Charlie, and Grey Thomas about politics (which is weird for us), mental illness and how to medicate that. We talk about what it means to be a recovered slam poet with Grey. We find that this episode captures a good cross section of LabeldFest put on by Brian Higgins, a pretty cool event with lots of neat films and shit and stuff.

Kelli speaks to the dark side of a rebel with a cause. She tells us about her experience during the occupation of shelterless people at the city county building in 2020. What does it mean to be an activist and how does anger fit into the equation

Sarah is reading a book called How to Talk so Kids Will Listen and How to Listen So Kids Will Talk. Somehow this leads Sarah and Phil to talk about the recent trend of micro-dosing and Ayahuasca because Phil's intuition has been telling him to check that stuff out. In an unexpected turn the conversation became quite revealing. Phil talks about feeling blocked and how scary it can be to trust your intuition when it's directing you to something that is taboo in your culture. 

This episode is recorded directly after a RAW group getting ready for the upcoming show entitled pray and the Pride festival in SLC. They talk about different modes of self expression and what it really means to be authentic in your expression whether its in prayer or in pride.

He's listened to all but 7 episodes of the Own It SLC podcast, and now it's his turn to be in the hot seat...that he built.  Jefferson is Phil's roommate and construction expert for Harvey the bus.  We talk about hedonism and the value of doing whatever you want, the dark and the light of it.  This guy did whatever his heart wanted to the destruction of himself, and has come out the other side to where it is quiet and he has nothing to prove.  He reads an excerpt from his personal writing, and admits it may be the only experience he's had with adrenaline in a very long time.  

Ripples. Ryan Hymus is the point of origin for many ripples and in this episode he tells us how and why he does it. We talk about libido, the juice of life, and how lies block the flow.

Sequan performed at one of our first Own It shows in 2019. In a piece where she redefined the acronym HIV she also claimed a voice which has only grown louder. Now she runs a non-profit called “Hope on Tapp” where she offers free HIV and Hep-C testing to underserved populations. This episode is packed with information about these misunderstood diseases. The woman is a powerhouse, and her partner Shane knows it. “This is part of our date night,” he told us when they sat down in Harvey.  How cool that they wanted to record a podcast with us for their date! find info here: http://hopeonttapp.com

Cary Judd and his buddies made a film called 828. They lived in a van and went all the way around Iceland, following Cary as he rode his e-skateboard into grief and came out the other side.  We talked with him about the first screening of his film at LabeledFest, a festival of art to end stigmas related to mental illness. He talks with us about the unflattering scenes of himself and what it's like to really show yourself to an audience. We also talk about flow state, suicide, rock climbing, falling and letting your art evolve you. Check out the IG for 828:  @828documentary

Can one ever get out from under the weight of their past criminal record? Justin Hughes proves to be a man of influence wherever he goes, and tells a tale of prison politics.  He shares about the hardships of paying down his court fines and how they continue to accrue interest and also psychological weight from crimes committed over a decade ago. Justin and Phil find a real kinship with each other. Although they've known each other for years, they know each other better now.

We've been articulating this notion of “beyond the beginning.”  How does one find out who they are beyond a drunk, beyond a news anchor, beyond a junkie? We talked with Randall Carlisle and Rachel Santizo to discuss this question and the result was more revealing than any of us expected. We were honored to have these two inside of Harvey the bus. This lil old short bus seems to be a place which encourages the evolution of truth, where people feel free to really talk. 

So it turns out that Sarah was wrong and Damian is no longer a shit starter. He has become a pacifist and tells us why. He talks about passion and anger and what is worth fighting for if anything at all.

Let's talk about food, and sex.  Natalie is the creator of a group where people get honest about their relationship to food.  Ironically, this leads to us talking about sex, and appetites.  New to Salt Lake City, Natalie has only been in Utah for a year and she is already starting shit by talking candidly about these two topics which can be a problem for people in recovery. Phil shares his experience writing a song called "Porn Monster" where he divulges the unsexiness of porn addiction.  Look for it on Spotify under "Mr. Denton."

The paradox between "come as you are" and "you gotta change". Travis Velarde and Alicia Fisher from 7th Street Treatment Center talk about the magic of their unconventional way of working.

Tell us about the Mary Jo beyond USARA...In this episode we dig beneath the "vanilla" of what Mary Jo McMillan usually talks about to discover a depth which Phil was thrilled to find. What drives her may not be what you'd expect. In a rare voice, Mary Jo shared a piece of her writing with us about broken sand dollars and the grief she carries.m We were honored to get the rare glimpse into what makes Mary Jo tick 

He went from sitting on the couch as a client at Journey to being hired as the director 10 years later.  Such growth does not happen without pushing the edge of what's possible.  This guy is quite a story teller.  He tells us about being wickedly burned by sulphur at Kennecott, and the realizations he had in the aftermath.  What would you do if you received a $700,000 settlement?  Tyler learned that money cannot bring you what you want, and after burning through so much cash, he was free to take risks. 

Recorded inside of Harvey the bus, as promised. This episode is the first in the "Shit Starter Series" where we drive around with 4 mics and 2 velvet couches talking to people who are starting shit in a good way.  Konrad from our former home The Beehive talks with us about the parallels between straightedge and recovery.  Both sober, and yet quite different in a few ways.  We discuss clarity of mind and the power which comes with making a lifestyle choice.   With some drug saturated stories told by DJ Josh, it was cool to see two seemingly different dudes sit on the same couch and learn from one another. 

Sarah and Phil talk about the importance, or lack thereof, of boundaries; Sarah tells about how she had to kick her dad out cuz he crossed one and Phil talks about how people just know where his are. New venue secured at 777 so 1300 e. Also, the duo voice an update on the third amigo, Harvey. 

Phil n Sarrraaahhh break some sad yet hopeful news. Sarah talks about a new class she will be facilitating while Phil secretly can't wait for the podcast to be over so he can relax or somn...

This episode answers 2 questions:  Where is the correct line in not offending someone?  Can you regain your innocence?  So far Jefferson has graded our response to his questions with a "C."  Hopefully he'll give us an "A" this time. 

The duo are all tuckered out after their latest show titled: Some Kinda Love Thing. They discuss the show, as well as adding some tasty little antidote-morsels to the mix.Sarah talks about why she did NOT read the piece she wrote at the show but - per your requests - it IS recorded here.  

Sadly, this is the last episode recorded in "The Fort."  Phil is moving to a sunny new location.  He reflects on his time in this apartment where he has lived for the last 3 years.  Ironically finding that it has been his own chrysalis.  He talks about what he discovered in the dark and loneliness, showing us the juxtaposition of these with an opening to love.  This episode unexpectedly became a farewell to many things. 

Why do people have the kinks they do? Can you have assumptions without expectations?  What's the best way to learn to allow love?  Can we change our core DNA of what makes us individuals?  Do all humans feel the need to improve because of ethics? 

Sarah n Phil get real focused with a little help from their friend, Jefferson Airplane.  He sent a list of questions for them to answer.  Here's what they discussed:  Is ignorance really bliss?  Where is THE line between art and not-art?  Does simple have any real value?  Stay tuned for the next episode of questions from Jefferson.

In an expression of his newly budding feminine side, Phil adopts a cat named Yam.  She's a skittish little kitty, and likes to hide behind the fridge.  Sarah tells a story about a bird flying with one wing, and how it applies to the imbalance of masculine and feminine energies within humanity, society, and even within one individual person.  Somehow this comes back around to sex, as things often do.  

What does conviction have to do with wearing a mask? The two get into it about masking and beliefs and sheep and lions. Phil stumbles upon some self discovery where he finds himself annoyed and frustrated. Sarah pokes and prods to get to the truth and perhaps the reasoning behind why some of us hide behind the mask.

A short little ditty from the couch, recorded on Phil's cell phone because he was too sick to go anywhere.  In the winter, sometimes life blends into itself and becomes homogenized.  Sarah goes into a  story about The Little Prince, and how to make your life matter when it all becomes the same color.

Phil had coffee with his friend who recently told him that t he AA spell had been broken.  The mystery of how it works  is no longer enchanting.  What do you do when it seems the magic is gone?   Is it really gone or was it ever there?  Sarah says either magic is or it isn't.  Phil has an epiphany about the mini tragedies which are always occurring, and realizes without these polarities there would be no yin to his yang and thus no contrast and thus no creation...thus sayeth the lord.