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• Bart Merrick and Crystal Vann promoted as experienced realtors • Dan shares story about selling his mom's beach house with Bart and Crystal's help • Jason joins via Zoom to talk about his positive experience selling his childhood home • Jason praises Bart for being informative and helping make educated decisions • Crystal praised for attention to detail and professionalism • Tom and Dan joke about Crystal's superpower and Bart's quiet demeanor • Jason lives in Raleigh and mentions insurance issues as a reason to sell • Jason thanked and invited to visit the studio • Show opens live from Just Call Mo Studio • Seth Petruzzelli introduced as guest, now with a mustache • Tom and Dan joke about diversifying the T&D universe with new characters • Seth jokes about being asked to say bad things and acting out for material • Dan praises Seth's fatherhood and photos of him with his baby • Seth and Dan discuss fleeting nature of parenting moments • Jokes about wives' fluctuating weight and appearances • Hurricane Party in Sanford promoted as punk/ska festival • Merchman back for 18th year, new sunglasses and stickers for sale • Seth says he's doing well and talks recent health changes • Seth started eating beef and goat again due to high B6 levels • Jokes about “goof” being goat + beef • Refuses to eat a Baconator, avoids pork • Dan stalks Seth's social media and notices no boat posts since December • Jokes about otter poop in expensive, unused boat • Boat engine overheated after short use before Memorial Day • Seth limped it back home, scratched himself checking for issues • Chat member Conway J offers help; 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Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaAsha Caravelli: The Flame Before the AlgorithmsWhile the West holds its ceremonies in PowerPoints,and titrates trauma like a spreadsheet balancing the soul,there are still those who remember—not from books,but from bone.Asha Caravelli is not the psychedelic circus.She is not the TED Talk trip report,not the neon-lit ego death sold for $999 with a weekend certification.No.She is older than the algorithms.Wiser than the wellness branding.A living prayer whispered across lifetimes.For over 14 years, she has sat at the feet of Iboga—not as a technician,but as a servant.Not as a biohacker,but as a torchbearer.In a lineage where silence is sacred and ceremony is not content,Asha holds space like the earth holds grief:with gravity, stillness, and infinite patience.She is a Life, Death and Transition Doula—formally trained, yes,but forged by fire—the kind of fire that only the liminal brings.She doesn't guide you to “optimize” yourself—She walks you to the edgewhere you must lay your false self downand greet the holy terror of who you really are.Daughter of Ross and Paula.Mother to Delani and Roco.Grandmother to Leon Emiliano.This is not a résumé.This is a lineage of Love.And while the psychedelic renaissance obsesses over protocols,Asha cooks.She listens.She prays with her hands in the soiland heals not through dogma,but through dinner.Because the most sacred thingis not found in a quantified molecule.It's in the way she prepares fresh food with Love—like a Eucharist only the initiated can taste.So, if you came for dopamine,keep scrolling.If you came for Truth,stay seated.Because what Asha carries cannot be tweeted,cannot be taught in a three-day course—It can only be transmittedfrom the heart of someonewho has walked through the fireand come back with silence. Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaRev. Dr. Jessica Rochester: In an age where plant medicines are paraded like commoditiesand sacred sacraments are filtered through the sterile lens of profit and protocol,there stands a bridge—woven not from theory,but from decades of devotion,grit, and grace.Rev. Dr. Jessica Rochester is that bridge.Madrinha. President. Torchbearer.Founder of Céu do Montréal, the Santo Daime Church she brought into being in 1997—not as a rebellion,but as a restoration of sacred memoryto the North.A transpersonal counselor forged in the crucibles of Assagioli and Grof,she speaks the languages of the soul and the somatic,guiding seekers not around, but through the sacred fire of self-confrontation.She walked the bureaucratic labyrinth from 2000 to 2017,securing a Section 56 Exemption—not for fame,but to protect the sacrament of Santo Daime from the cold fists of the state.She is an ordained Interfaith Minister,a Doctor of Divinity,and an author whose two-volume opus—Ayahuasca Awakening—is less a book and more a mapfor those ready to take off their masksand meet the jaguar within.For over four decades she has led workshops,held private practice,stood at the crossroads of consciousness and culture,teaching not how to escape,but how to embodythe radical act of spiritual adulthood.And today,while the psychedelic renaissance sells peak experiences,Rev. Dr. Jessica Rochester whispers of something older,quieter,stronger—The long walk home.The humble medicine of self-care,self-mastery,and sacred discipline.So if you came for a keynote speaker,step aside.If you came for a true guidebetween the seen and unseen,prepare your heart.Because the Madrinha is not here to entertain you.She is here to remind you who you werebefore the world told you who to be.⸻https://www.revdrjessicarochester.com/https://psychedelicscene.com/2024/06/20/entheogens-psychedelics-nosc-and-the-search-for-wholeness/ Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
This week on Surviving Roots, I sit down with spiritual healer and author Lauren Courtney to explore what it really looks like to heal from the inside out. Lauren shares her journey from being a medicated teen in New York to becoming a Miami-based energy healer, sound therapist, and author of Glow Up Your Chakras. Together, we unpack the truth about healing highs, spiritual awakenings, reconnecting with your authentic self, and how grief can crack you open to your life's purpose. If you've ever wondered whether you're truly healing or just performing a new version of self-improvement — this episode is for you. We discuss: Chakras, trauma, and self-remembrance The dark side of awakening (and what comes after the “healing high”) Why you don't need crystals, ayahuasca, or a guru to start healing Moving from chaos to clarity — one choice at a time Tune in and walk away with inspiration, insight, and the reminder that your power lives in your truth. Listen on Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, YouTube + more. Connect with Cari Fund on Instagram: @cari.fund Connect with Lauren on Instagram: @iamlaurencourtney Download my free bold self-growth guide at www.cari.fund
Mark Kohl is an acclaimed Director and Cinematographer known for his bold, cinematic storytelling across television, film, and commercials. He's directed and shot over 130 episodes of America's Most Wanted, lensed features for Francis Ford Coppola's American Zoetrope, and worked on major films like Lonely Hearts with John Travolta and Recount for HBO. Mark has also created over 2,000 commercials for top brands including McDonald's, Honda, AT&T, and Carnival Cruise Lines, earning numerous Addy and Telly Awards along the way. But behind the scenes, Mark faced a profound personal battle. At the height of his success, he lost everything to severe depression, anxiety, and alcoholism. His path to healing came through the powerful therapeutic use of Ayahuasca and psilocybin, which opened new dimensions of consciousness and helped him rediscover his purpose. Today, Mark is not only a celebrated DGA director but also the founder of Frequency House, a wellness and consciousness center in Topanga Canyon dedicated to helping others heal through plant medicine, intention, and spiritual connection. His story is one of remarkable transformation, a journey from Hollywood to healing, now inspiring others to awaken to their own potential. We discuss: How alcohol and other substances are often used as coping mechanisms for deeper emotional pain. The vital role of consciousness and self-awareness in the recovery and healing journey. Why addiction is more than a physical struggle, it's rooted in loneliness, anxiety, and psychological patterns. How community, spiritual practices like kundalini yoga, and mind-body awareness support long-term transformation. The creative mind's vulnerability to addiction, and how experiences like ayahuasca can offer powerful breakthroughs. Follow Mark Kohl on Instagram @mark_kohl Follow The Frequency House on Instagram @thefrequencyhouse_ Learn more about Mark Kohl here. Learn more about Frequency House here. Learn more about High Vibration Living with Chef Whitney Aronoff on www.StarseedKitchen.com Get 10% off your order of Chef Whitney's organic spices with code STARSEED on www.starseedkitchen.com Follow Chef Whitney Aronoff on Instagram at @whitneyaronoff and @starseedkitchen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaImagine if your nervous system were a cathedral—not a machine, not a malfunctioning circuit—but a living temple sculpted by experience, memory, mystery, and motion.Today's guest, Dr. Henrietta Szutorisz, doesn't just study the brain—she listens to its prayers, decodes its confessions, and challenges its illusions.She's a neuroscientist by training, a revolutionary by nature,the founder of Objective Recovery,where data meets soul, and the tired scripts of addiction and mental health get rewritten in real time.But she's not here to give you answers.She's here to help us ask better questions.What if the root of addiction isn't a disease, but a forgotten ritual?What if trauma isn't something to erase, but to reweave?What if the brain isn't a hard drive, but a symphony—and psychedelics are simply tuning forks for forgotten frequencies?Henrietta sits at the crossroads:between serotonin and soul, dopamine and destiny,neuroplasticity and the myth of the fixed self.She dares to say that maybe—just maybe—the mechanism of action is a mirage,and we are the experiment we've been waiting for.So today, we're not talking about “fixing” people.We're talking about remembering.We're talking about sacred biology.We're talking about the fire of consciousness waking up in the folds of the cortex.This is Alan Watts in a lab coat.Whitehead whispering through neurotransmitters.Burning Man in a Petri dish.And this conversation—this unfolding, this inquiry—is for those who still believe the map is not the territory,and that healing is not a protocol,but a pilgrimage.Welcome to the place where science stops performing,and starts dancing.Let's begin.https://www.objectiverecovery.com/ Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
Let's have some dangerous fun as Chris Mathieu of Forbidden Knowledge graces the Virtual Alexandria. We'll talk heretical podcaster shop and also cover his two fantastic documentaries, Occult Louisiana and Doors of Perception. From Bigfoot to Paralysis Demons, UFOs to Ayahuasca, you'll find that our world is even weirder than you could have imagined. In this supernatural strangeness, though, the keys to higher forms of consciousness are available to you right now. Chris's website: https://forbiddenknowledge.news/ Get The Occult Elvis: https://amzn.to/4jnTjE4 The Gnostic Tarot: https://www.makeplayingcards.com/sell/synkrasis Homepage: https://thegodabovegod.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/aeonbyte AB Prime: https://thegodabovegod.com/members/subscription-levels/ Virtual Alexandria Academy: https://thegodabovegod.com/virtual-alexandria-academy/ Voice Over services: https://thegodabovegod.com/voice-talent/ Support with donation: https://buy.stripe.com/00g16Q8RK8D93mw288Stream All Astro Gnosis Conferences for the price of one: https://thegodabovegod.com/replay-sophia/
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaJenny Chen RobertsonIn an empire of numbness, where sedation is sold as salvation,One woman dares to weaponize wisdom and baptize bureaucracy in the psilocybin sacrament.”Jenny is not a facilitator.She is a forger of frameworks,A cartographer of care,Turning risk-reduction into revolution.She walks the fault line between clinical ethics and ecstatic experience—MBA-trained, yes—But with soul credentials inked in sweat, in silence,In sacred listening.She's briefed lawmakers with the calm of a nun and the clarity of a sniper.She's testified with tremors in her voice and steel in her spine.Her resume reads like a paradox:Real estate magnate turned mycelial matriarch.Spreadsheet whisperer turned soul doula.Jenny co-founded the Safer Psychedelics Association of New EnglandNot to play nice with power—But to redefine it.She speaks for the trip-gone-sideways,For the mothers who don't trust “the system,”For the cops confused by consciousness,For the firemen called to burning minds.This isn't harm reduction—it's harm revolution.This isn't education—it's uncolonized knowing.She doesn't just talk set and setting—She re-sets the setting of the entire conversation.So lean in close, fam—Because when Jenny speaks,The old paradigm doesn't just shudder—It begs for a blindfold.And the future?It's already listening.SPAN: Safer Psychedelics Association of New EnglandJenny Chen RobertsonOn Psychedelics, Safety & the Psyche 1. In a world obsessed with optimization, what does it mean to heal rather than just function? 3. Do you think crisis is a rite of passage we've medicalized into silence?
Hospitalised in Spain, embracing Ayahuasca and group laughter as therapy. Outed in a comedy club as a LinkedIn rogue, Thor shares how humour is becoming a tool for self realisation through his new Thorapy.AI Viking Coach - Reflecting on life purpose, and emphasising the legacy through meaningful connections rather than wealth, inspired by a friend's funeral with standing room only. More life and plant medicine insights with upcoming Scottish comedians and psychedelic wonderers.
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaJacob TellLadies and gentlemen, wanderers and weirdos, pixelated prophets and frequency freaks — today, the veil parts and we welcome a sonic spellcaster, a cybernetic druid, a reality bender broadcasting from the other side of the firewall.He's not here to market, he's here to melt constructs. This man has toured the world selling soul with Jack Johnson, and now he's weaving ritual code into the circuitry of corporate America, transforming screens into shrines and feedback loops into fractal spirals.Jacob Tell is a media mystic. A brand bard. A chaos conductor at the intersection of commerce and cosmic consciousness. He builds platforms like ayahuasca brews — thick with intention, humming with serpents of data and rhythm, asking not for your clicks, but for your initiation.The man doesn't just disrupt — he dismembers the mundane. His new platform, Storywall, is less tech and more technoshamanic mirror — a dancefloor for your digital twin, where memory morphs in real time and each interaction is a prayer.In an era ruled by dopamine loops and doomscroll death cults, Jacob builds holy interfaces — spaces that remind us of the mythic, that connect the neural-networks of community with the blood-wired nodes of the human spirit.If Terence McKenna, Steve Jobs, and the DMT elves held a hackathon in a sacred Redwood Grove during a solar eclipse, the blueprint would look a lot like what Jacob's building.So grab your tuning forks, your vaporwave prayer beads, your legally ambiguous sacrament, and strap your soul to the signal — because this is not content, this is ceremony.This is TRUELIFE with JACOB TELL — and it's about to get… ineffable.Jacob TellAbout — District216 Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
We dive into a raw and honest conversation about my first ayahuasca ceremony in Costa Rica. Despite expecting profound visions, the experience was unexpectedly subtle. Yet, it led to deep reflections on ego, masculinity, and the journey of reconnecting with the soul.We explore the challenges of spiritual awakening, the illusions of the ego, and the path to authentic living. This isn't just about plant medicine it's about the courage to face oneself and embrace transformation.If you're seeking truth, healing, and a deeper understanding of self, this conversation is for you.
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaThey bottled dreams and sold illusions.He grew gods in basements.While the world slept on the soil, he listened to its spores.He is the rebel scientist, the culture shifter, the underground alchemist.A pioneer not just of mushrooms—but of meaning.Doma, creator of TidalWave Cubensis, architect of Magic Myco and MycoCoil™,is the visionary behind The Cultivar Cup—where art, science, and soul converge like a mycelial uprising.With one foot in bioscience, one in art & tech,he doesn't just breed mushrooms—he splices destinies, isolates revolutions,and maps the uncharted genetics of psilocybin itself.CRISPR is within reach. HPLC is on the table.And every sterile spore is blessed in the temple of his lab.But no mycelial network thrives alone.Enter Clinton Diong—the architect of connection.CEO of The Fruit of Knowledge and former design engineer,Clinton brings the circuitry of community to the circuitry of consciousness.Where Doma births new strains, Clinton builds new structures—platforms for global collaboration, tools for informed evolution,bridges between law, healing, and the ancient future.Together, they embody two poles of the same electric storm:The underground rebel and the strategic builder.The geneticist and the connector.The mycelium and the mind.This conversation is more than a podcast—it's a sporeprint of the future.Welcome to the future of fungi.Welcome to the movement beneath your feet.Welcome, my friends… Brown Treasure - Premium Island ManureMagicMycoFam - Cultivar Cup, Mushroom TestingThe miraculix QTests - the first drug purity tests - MiraculixAll Things Grow | Cannabis Nursery in Brooklyn | Brooklyn, NY, USAAffiliates — Twisted Tree NurseryGordoTEKOur Story – T.G.Tinctures and Mycology Supplies - Vital Bloom TincturesHamilton's MushroomsBuy Rare Mushroom Spore Syringes – Enigma, Jack Frost, MoreHow to Grow Psychedelic Mushrooms at Home?Home Page - Trip Team Family Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
ON EPISODE 65 of the Joey Show comedian Joey Avery has an important message. DON'T JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE'S RELATIONSHIPS. Which we then do for the next hour. From Onnit Founder Aubrey Marcus and his ayahuasca fueled throuple, to an update in the Bill Belichick saga, to Diddy's affinity for nipple cum. Plus Biden's cancer fallout, Trump's Golden Dome, Ben and Jerry's man gets kicked out of congress and the real reason Art History is a better major than Finance. SEE JOEY LIVE: www.joeyavery.com/live
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaThe Mycelium Is Moving.A few months ago, I launched something called The Psychedelic Science Art Challenge.No prizes.No promises.Just a call.I said: Submit your art if it speaks to the mystery, the meaning, the madness. I can't offer you money. I can't offer you fame. But I can offer you resonance. Connection. The possibility that someone, somewhere, will see your work and feel a pulse in their chest. The kind of pulse that says—I thought I was alone.One artist—Joshua Moyer—asked if I was accepting music.I said, “Of course.”He didn't send one song. He sent many.Each one more raw, more electric, more alive than the last.An entire album was born. Psychedelic. Soulful. Savage. Sublime.He played every instrument. Sang every note. Sculpted sound like a sacred invocation.And now…His music is the foundation, the score, the sonic bloodstream of the visual art being submitted from creators around the world.Each piece, from every artist, stitched together by sound and spirit.Like spores forming a signal.Like a symphony of the strange and sacred.This isn't a project.This is a remembering.Of what art really is.Of what artists really do.Joshua Moyer didn't just answer the call.He became the call.To the artists who are quietly remaking the world,not with capital but with consequence,not with branding but with bravery—we see you.And to those who still believe art is a product,who think a certificate can make a prophet,who mistake algorithm for altar—you have no idea what's coming.This is what it looks likewhen mycelium starts to dream.https://www.youtube.com@TheDichotomyCollectivehttps://x.com/DichotomyPsychohttps://www.instagram.com/joshuamoyerpsych/https://www.instagram.com/dichotomycollective/https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuamoyernc/ Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
Do you think you might benefit from psychedelics, but have concerns about potential risks? In this conversation, I speak with Dr. Alexander Belser about psychedelics, from anecdotal benefits to the chemical breakdowns and reactions of psychedelic drugs. We discuss common drugs like psilocybin and MDMA to indigenous traditions around ayahuasca to lesser-known psychedelics like ibogaine. Psychedelics are being studied for potential benefits for treating depression, PTSD, anxiety, and more. For the average person, do the benefits of taking psychedelics outweigh the risks? And how do you know which psychedelics are right for you? Alex and I discuss anecdotal experiences and research on psychedelics, and the behaviors that can reduce potential harms. In this episode, we get into: What Are Psychedelics? Psilocybin (Shrooms), MDMA, Ketamine, LSD, & Ibogaine Treating Addiction With Psychedelics Ayahuasca and Appropriation From Indigenous Cultures The Science Behind Microdosing How To Safely Experiment With Psychedelics and If It's Right For You For more from Dr. Alex Belser, find him on Instagram @alex.belser or online at https://alexbelser.com/. Check out his book, EMBARK Psychedelic Therapy for Depression: A New Approach for the Whole Person. Ready to uplevel every part of your life? Order Liz's book 100 Ways to Change Your Life: The Science of Leveling Up Health, Happiness, Relationships & Success now! To join The Liz Moody Podcast Club Facebook group, go to www.facebook.com/groups/thelizmoodypodcast. Connect with Liz on Instagram @lizmoody or online at www.lizmoody.com. Subscribe to the substack by visiting https://lizmoody.substack.com/welcome. Check out the previous episodes of The Liz Moody Podcast discussed today: Ask the Doctor: Anxiety Edition: Everything You Need to Know About Treating Anxiety Naturally with Ellen Vora, MD The New Science Of Depression & How To Actually Heal (+ SSRIs, Postpartum, Grief, and More) Check out some resources discussed in this episode: https://chacruna.net/ https://www.iceers.org/ayahuasca/ https://psychedelic.support/ This episode is sponsored by:AG1: visit drinkag1.com/lizmoody and get your FREE year supply of Vitamin D and 5 free travel packs today. The Liz Moody Podcast cover art by Zack. The Liz Moody Podcast music by Alex Ruimy. Formerly the Healthier Together Podcast. This podcast and website represents the opinions of Liz Moody and her guests to the show. The content here should not be taken as medical advice. The content here is for information purposes only, and because each person is so unique, please consult your healthcare professional for any medical questions. The Liz Moody Podcast Episode 331. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaRobert Sean DavisToday's guest is Robert Sean Davis — a cryptologist of systems both seen and unseen, a master decoder of polarity warfare, and a guardian of the sacred architectures that exist beyond narrative capture. With a rare fusion of military precision, metaphysical depth, and fearless loyalty to divine order, Robert moves through complex fields not as a captive, but as a builder of the new codes of human freedom.It is an absolute honor to welcome a man who doesn't just navigate the battlefield of consciousness — he redefines it. Welcome, Robert.Mind-Blowing, Core-Piercing Questions for Robert Sean Davis: Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaThere are moments in our lives when the veil lifts—when the illusions fall away and what remains is truth, raw and unfiltered. It is in these moments that we are called to choose: to turn back into the shadows of familiarity, or to walk forward into the fire of awakening. Today, you're about to meet two people who have not only walked that path—but have become guides for those ready to burn away what no longer serves and to stand in the flame of their own becoming.Patrick and Michele Fishley are the founders of Soul Reflections, the world's first global online Iboga/Ibogaine community—a sanctuary for practitioners, providers, seekers, and visionaries alike. But their story isn't just digital—it's deeply spiritual, rooted in blood, bone, and ancient tradition. They are Ngangas—healers and seers—initiated into the sacred Bwiti traditions of Gabon, recognized by the elders themselves, not just for their knowledge, but for their courage, their humility, and their relentless commitment to truth.Patrick, known in the Bwiti tradition as DIBADI Mabunza Mukuku a Kandja—the warrior with the Bwete force and flames of truth from his mouth—is a Registered Nurse with over three decades of experience in Emergency Rooms, ICUs, and trauma bays. A Medical Director and lead facilitator, he has guided over 1,500 Iboga journeys with a perfect safety record. His work bridges the primal and the clinical, the ancestral and the modern.Michele, known as Yakéta—Mother of Twins, Mother of All—is a Licensed Practical Nurse and a transformational integration coach with over 18 years of acute care experience. She is a fierce and nurturing presence in the space, initiated into the sacred feminine lineages of the Nyèmbè and Mabundi traditions. Michele brings the power of the mother, the healer, and the spiritual midwife into every ceremony, retreat, and conversation.Together, Patrick and Michele have turned their lives into a living ceremony. They carry the medicine not just in their hands, but in their hearts. Through their annual pilgrimages to Gabon, they continue to deepen their commitment to the Bwiti traditions—honoring the land, the elders, and the sacred fire of Iboga.Their mission is simple yet profound: to weave ancient wisdom with modern healing, to create safe, soul-rooted spaces for transformation, and to remind us that real healing is not a transaction—it is a sacred initiation.So if you're ready to hear from two of the most grounded, experienced, and spiritually aligned voices in the Iboga space… buckle up. This conversation isn't just a discussion—it's a portal.https://soulreflections.net/ Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
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Maddie Durbin joins Luis for a tender exploration of her experience becoming Max, and de-transitioning back to Maddie. At 19 Maddie was looking for freedom from the pain of the human condition, she turned to transitioning as an escape. She went by Max for 6 years and took testosterone for 5 of those years, growing a full beard and undergoing a double mastectomy along the way. However, she was still unhappy, depressed and unfulfilled. In 2022 Max decided to begin a healing journey. In that journey Max found acceptance for herself that led her back to Maddie. Maddie was told she couldn't be herself, to the point where she thought she literally had to change who she was. She treated herself how others had treated her, banishing herself to a metaphorical closet for 7 years. Maddie came out of the closet when she felt safe enough to come out as her true self. Children need support through the dysphoric process of puberty. A beginning solution for each of us to dismantle the labels, find acceptance for who we are, and make decisions rooted in authenticity.You can learn more about Maddie on her website: https://maddiedurbin.com/You can listen to her podcast, "The Bridge", here: https://maddiedurbin.com/the-bridge-podcast/You can register for the FREE Food Therapy session here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/events/food-therapy-weight-gain-weight-loss-balance To read more about, and register for, the 2025 Menla retreat, click here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/menla-retreat----You can learn more on the website: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/ Learn more about the self-led course here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/self-led-new Join the waitlist to pre-order Luis' book here: https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/the-book You can follow Luis on Instagram @holistic.life.navigationQuestions? You can email us at info@holisticlifenavigation.com
Vonetta Rain shares her transformative journey, overcoming childhood trauma, dealing with her intuitive gifts, and harnessing the power of plant medicine. From her time in Africa to living abundantly through service in Bali, she has embraced her soul's path to a liberated, unique life. 0:00: A Shaman's Apprentice 9.00: Power of the book: “Autobiography of a Yogi” 13.00: Childhood Trauma and cathartic writing 21.00: Time in Africa 29.00: Realizing she was an empath 35.00: Developing the gift of listening to your intuition 39.00: How the path of service has provided abundance 44.00: What do you do when you find out you have special gifts 48.00: The powers of plant medicine 55.00: Ayahuasca and working through shadow patterns 1.03.00: How plant medicine helps parents connect with children 1.13.00: How to follow your “soul's path” and live a liberated life. 1.19.00: Living a unique life and moving to Bali Vonetta's Memoir: https://rb.gy/qbvr2u Until next time, love and good vibes. Podcast Website: https://enterthelionheart.com/ Check out the latest episode here: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/enter-the-lionheart/id1554904704 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4tD7VvMUvnOgChoNYShbcI
In this insightful episode, anxiety therapist and relationship coach Stephani Worley joins us for a powerful conversation on mental health, overcoming limiting beliefs, and her transformative journey with plant medicine.Stephani openly shares her personal battle with depression and anxiety, revealing practical strategies to manage these challenges, including the simple yet profound practice of daily 30-minute walks and confronting limiting beliefs through therapy and coaching.We also dive deep into Stephani's recent experience with Bufo, a powerful plant medicine ceremony. She vividly recounts her profound hallucination of witnessing her own body turning to dust, an experience that reshaped her perspective on life's significance and the dangers of trying to control outcomes. Although the journey initially triggered depressive feelings, Stephanie discusses how ultimately it led to a deeper appreciation for life, especially through the lens of motherhood.Throughout our conversation, we explore:Effective ways to manage anxiety and depression.Why entrepreneurship can be the greatest form of personal growth, despite imposter syndrome and perfectionism.How to let go of the illusion of control and live more fully in the present moment.The transformational potential—and risks—of Ayahuasca experiences, including the importance of having supportive integration afterward.Join us for this profound dialogue on healing, personal transformation, and the power of letting go.Connect with Stephani on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stephaniworleyIf this conversation resonated with you, please subscribe, share, and leave a review to support the show!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DcTbrNfP22bsqc-FsxBaQwww.zerodoubtclub.comwww.zerodoubtkitchen.com@zerodoubtclub@zerodoubtkitchen@jeremytorchlife
The Achuar people first came into contact with the outside world sixty years ago. Since then, they have mostly been left in peace, able to take what they want from the modern world and leave the rest. That's changing now. Their territory is under threat by careerist politicians within their own community, by other indigenous nations whose populations have exponentially increased thanks to contact with fossil fuels, and by industry who, every year, is figuring out how to penetrate even deeper into the forest.I had the privilege of interviewing Chumpi Washikiat about these threats. Chumpi is an Achuar leader who has been instrumental in promoting their eco-tourism project as an alternative to extractivism. He is one of two of the thirty thousand strong Achuar who speak English, and I spent a few days with him near the village he grew up in. I watched him expertly debate his peers during a forum that lasted nine hours about which Presidential candidate would be best for indigenous nations in Ecuador. Floating down the river at dawn, I listened to stories of shamanism, learning how the Achuar inhabit the spirits of the forest. I heard the daily ceremony every morning when the Achuar arise before dawn to purge their bodies and interpret their dreams together. And, a few hours after this interview, Chumpi and I did an Ayahuasca ceremony together, listening to the voices of the Amazon echo across the lagoon.Planet: Critical investigates why the world is in crisis. Join subscribers from 186 countries to support independent journalism. Get full access to Planet: Critical at www.planetcritical.com/subscribe
Almost two years ago, I decided to do Ayahuasca. I felt like it was my time after all the hype and buzz about it. You can listen to my initial experience in the episode below.A year ago, I decided to do it again — this time more consciously, more aware, and for myself. That experience will remain private.Finally, a week ago, I had my last experience with this sacred medicine, and I felt like I needed to share this one because what came up wasn't only for me.For the first time, I went into the ceremony with a clear intention and a question. I wanted Grandmother Ayahuasca to tell me how we can save the world from the chaos, destruction, and division we are experiencing and what my small contribution could be.And... she sure gave me an answer.(Please note I do not encourage nor recommend any usage of psychodelic substances.)Connect with me:Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/annamaluskitzmann/Sing up for a The Healer Is In You newsletter:https://gem.godaddy.com/signups/3e4d761650fb4eccb0bd1b27391b397b/joinEnergy Healing session with me:https://calendly.com/thiiy/pranic_healing_session?month=2023-09 Breathwork session with me:https://calendly.com/thiiy/breathwork-session-1?month=2023-09Support small sustainable business:https://goodgoodsstore.co/This podcast is intended to inspire, and support you on your journey towards inner peace, healing and growth. I am not a psychologist or a medical doctor and do not offer anyprofessional health or medical advice. If you are suffering from any psychological or medical conditions, please seek help from a qualified professional.
Hey everybody! Episode 158 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Roman Hanis. This is my second time interviewing Roman. I really enjoyed our first interview with Roman and was impressed with his wisdom and what he had to share. He is releasing a book soon so I was happy to heave him back on to speak about it. Its called Beyond Ayahuasca: Evolutionary Science of Indigenous Amazonian Wisdom. I had the pleasure to read it a while back and really enjoyed it. Its full of wisdom about these traditional technologies and I think you all will gain much from this episode as from the first. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about or contact Roman, including his book, visit his website at: paititi-institute.orgTo learn more about our work, visit our website: https://NicotianaRustica.org To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcast Music: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski's Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaJack CrossToday's guest walks the line between prophet and poet, mystic and madman. Jack Cross doesn't just write—he conjures. His words are polemics, hallucinations etched in ink, hymns smuggled out of dreams. Whether he's invoking God in back-alley verses or decoding the sacred geometry of language, Jack is on a warpath for meaning. This isn't just conversation—it's ritual. Buckle up! Directory | Awake.net Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
In this episode of the Flex Diet Podcast, I sit down with Dr. James Fadiman and Jordan Gruber to talk all things microdosing—what it is, what it isn't, and why it's gaining so much traction in health, performance and even mental clarity.We dig into their new book, Microdosing for Healing, Health, and Enhanced Performance, and cover everything from the history of psychedelics to the latest research and how people are using tiny doses of these compounds to potentially improve cognitive function, mood and physical performance.We also talk about personal experience—what they've seen, what they've felt, and what they've learned along the way. Of course, none of this is medical advice. These substances still live in legal gray zones depending on where you are, so proceed with caution and do your homework.If you're curious about the science and the real-world implications of microdosing, this episode is a must-listen. Let's get into it.Sponsors:Daily Fitness Insider Newsletter: https://flex-diet.kit.com/bfa1510fa8Triphasic 2 book now available!Go to https://triphasic2.com/Episode Chapters:01:07 Exploring Microdosing: Benefits and Research01:56 Legal and Safety Considerations02:45 Personal Experiences with Psychedelics04:05 Microdosing Protocols and Effects17:13 Microdosing for Enhanced Performance29:22 The Role of Coaching in Neuroplasticity29:40 Microdosing and Moral Implications30:20 Understanding Neuroplasticity with Psychedelics34:06 Microdosing for Chronic Pain34:58 Microdosing vs. Pharmaceuticals36:54 Real-Life Evidence and Research47:43 Potential Risks of Microdosing51:51 Microdosing Community and Resources54:23 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsFlex Diet Podcast Episodes You May Enjoy: Episode 162: Aaron Rodgers ayahuasca retreat, performance, and research – a solocast by Dr Mike T Nelson Episode 111: My Plant Medicine Experience w Ayahuasca and Kambo in Costa RicaConnect with : Microdosing for Health, Healing and Advanced Performance: https://www.amazon.com/Microdosing-Health-Healing-Enhanced-Performance/dp/1250355583Dr James Fadiman: https://www.jamesfadiman.com/Jordan Gruber: https://jordangruber.com/Get In Touch with Dr Mike:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmiketnelson/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn1aTbQqHglfNrENPm0GTpg
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaTommy CarriganThey built their empire on graves,stacked bones into skyscrapers,paved over dreams with dead men's lies —and thought we wouldn't notice.But Tommy Carrigan noticed.And he came swinging.Born with rebellion carved into his marrow,gifted with the fire-tongue of his Irish bloodline,Tommy tore through the polite prisons they offered —biology, pharmacy, medicine —and burned their paper chains before they could cuff him.From a crooked rooftop above an old garage,he grabbed a mic like a molotov,sprayed truth like graffiti across the walls of a world rotting from the inside out.They banned him.Erased him.Shut the doors and blacked out the windows.But you can't bury a storm.You can't muzzle a mind that games across star systemsand sees high-rises as tombstones scratching at a deaf sky.Tommy is a cracked mirror, a mad prophet,a workhorse rebel dragging broken truths through barbed wire and throwing them bleeding at your feet.He wears grief like armor —his brother's ghost stitched to his chest like a battle flag,a promise that from ruin, he'll raise something fierce enough to matter.This ain't a show.It's a jailbreak.It's a fistfight in the graveyard of dead ideas.Welcome to Tommy Carrigan —where every word is a brick through their stained-glass illusions,and the walls of the old world are coming down spray-painted, blood-smeared, and loud.Tommy's Podcast Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaA museum doseAloha fellow disruptors and pop culture archeologists—Today, we're cracking open the vault of American myth-making with not just one, but three brilliant minds who aren't just studying history—they're remixing it, re-curating it, and calling it out in real time.Straight outta Christopher Newport University, meet the powerhouse crew behind the exhibit “Made for the Moment: Glimpses into American Pop Culture.” These are museum studies renegades who know that culture isn't something you passively consume—it's something you confront, question, and sometimes completely dismantle.Aster McMillion is a curator of chaos and clarity—activist, researcher, and walking collage of academia and rebellion. Picture Gloria Steinem crossed with Indiana Jones if they were dropped into a Warhol print and handed a bullhorn.Andrew Brown is a tour guide through the simulation—part art historian, part cultural codebreaker. He'll take you from Rothko to Rage Against the Machine without missing a beat, all while interrogating who gets to shape “the canon.”And now joining the fray is the brilliant Lizzie Childress—or as the revolution knows her, Lizzie. She's a triple-threat honors student, history major, political science and museum studies double-minor, and student leader of more clubs than there are TikTok trends in a day. Lizzie's not just studying curatorial power—she's practicing it in real time, zooming in live from the exhibit space itself. She's Phi Alpha Theta meets Schoolhouse Rock meets punk rock historian.Their event? A full-on excavation of the American psyche—from Elvis to drag queens, from Barbie to TikTok backlash. This isn't just nostalgia. It's a reckoning.So if you've ever questioned the gospel of Disney, longed for the days of Blockbuster, or wondered why memes feel more powerful than newspapers—this is your show.Grab your joystick. Crack your Capri Sun. We're tearing back the curtain on who's really writing the script in American culture. Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USBuy Grow kit: https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band willl Blow your Mind! Codex Serafini: https://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-animaAdam Miezio“When Psychedelics Go Public”Imagine Alan Watts took three hits of LSD, cracked open his MacBook, and started writing copy for a biotech startup—except he didn't forget the Upanishads, or the sacred. That's the frequency we're tuning into today.I'm George Monty, and this is the place where the symbolic goes strategic, where the mystical puts on a clean shirt and walks into the boardroom—but doesn't bow.My guest is Adam Miezio—a rare mind at the crossroads of content and consciousness. He's written for medicine carriers and molecule makers, shaped language around trauma, healing, psychedelics, and transformation. But don't mistake him for a marketer. Adam is something else—a translator between the digital world and the ineffable.In this episode, we're not asking how to “scale” or “optimize.”We're asking what happens when the sacred enters the system.When ayahuasca meets analytics.When a keyword becomes a prayer.This isn't a campaign. It's a conversation between worlds.And you're invited to listen in.adammiezio.contently.comadammiezio.contently.comhttps://www.bizdelics.com/ Support the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkgGrow your own:https://modernmushroomcultivation.com/This Band Will Blow Your Mind: Codex Serafinihttps://codexserafini.bandcamp.com/album/the-imprecation-of-anima
Plant medicine, Ayahuasca, Traveling, Business, A 30 day fasting/diet in the amazon! Derek has done a lot at 28 years old. I met Derek at an Ayahuasca ceremony and was immediately drawn to the happiness that he exudes. I knew after talking with him for a bit that I would want to get him on the show and talk with him. Listen to his story and just have a friendly free flowing conversation. This is that conversation!Disclaimer: We are not professionals. This podcast is opinioned based and from life experience. This is for entertainment purposes only. Opinions helped by our guests may not reflect our own. But we love a good conversation. This conversation does cover the topic of plant medicine and its affects. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/2-be-better--5828421/support.
This episode is for the woman who's tried everything—macros, gut protocols, more discipline—and still feels stuck. I break down the real root issue: your nervous system isn't safe, and no strategy will work until it is.Get the real tools. Do the real work. And stop settling for the same cycle. This isn't about another plan—it's about a full-body recalibration.00:28 The Root Cause of Health Issues01:52 Introducing the Body Rebuild Program02:39 The Importance of Discipline and Nervous System Health03:28 The Role of Fat in Your Diet04:49 Training and Exercise Insights11:23 The Power of Identity Work18:43 Working with Men and Military Clients19:15 The Power of AI in Healing20:01 Body Rebuild Plan and Gut Health20:39 Coaching and Nervous System Work22:10 Identity and Healing27:54 Investing in Coaching31:04 Ayahuasca and Plant Medicine32:13 Using AI for Personal GrowthSupport the showReady to be hot, healthy, and struggle-free?Start here → CLICK THIS LINK • Instagram: @caseyshipp• Join the Hotmomz AI recalibration experience → [I'M READY]
In this episode, Guy spoke with Dennis McKenna, a respected ethnopharmacologist, discussed the nature of reality and consciousness, and how they are shaped by our brain's neurochemistry. He elaborated on the role of psychedelics in expanding consciousness and their therapeutic applications in mental health. McKenna also reflected on his career, significant influences, and the development of ethnopharmacology as a field. He touched on his brother Terence McKenna's impact, shared personal anecdotes, and shedded light on the McKenna Academy's mission. The conversation delved into the importance of safe and informed use of psychedelics and emphasizes curiosity, open-mindedness, and the pursuit of understanding in exploring the mind and consciousness. About Dennis: Dennis McKenna has conducted research in ethnopharmacology for over 40 years. He is a founding board member of the Heffter Research Institute, and was a key investigator on the Hoasca Project, the first biomedical investigation of ayahuasca. He is the younger brother of Terence McKenna. From 2000 to 2017, he taught courses on Ethnopharmacology and Plants in Human affairs as an adjunct Assistant Professor in the Center for Spirituality and Healing at the University of Minnesota. Key Points Discussed: (00:00) - It's a SIMULATION! Psychedelics, Consciousness, and the Reality You're Not Seeing (00:55) - Podcast Announcement and Engagement (01:37) - Guest Introduction: Dennis McKenna (03:00) - Defining Ethnopharmacology (05:48) - The 2017 Conference and Its Significance (10:10) - The Influence of Early Books on Psychedelics (13:02) - Understanding Psychedelics and Their Impact (18:14) - The Therapeutic Potential of Psychedelics (21:26) - Personal Experiences with Ayahuasca (23:22) - Exploring Consciousness and Reality (30:36) - Understanding the Default Mode Network (31:07) - Therapeutic Benefits of Psychedelics (34:34) - Exploring Different Psychedelics (35:50) - Mechanisms of MDMA and SSRIs (37:29) - Alternative Psychoactive Substances (38:53) - Resources for Learning About Psychedelics (44:30) - The McKenna Academy and Its Mission (49:34) - Personal Reflections and Insights (54:51) - Recommended Resources and Final Thoughts How to Contact Dennis McKenna:mckenna.academy About me:My Instagram: www.instagram.com/guyhlawrence/?hl=en Guy's websites:www.guylawrence.com.au www.liveinflow.co''
Host: Jason Rigby Guest: Coby Michael, Occult Herbalist and Author of The Poison Path Grimoire Buy the Book: Get The Poison Path Grimoire and The Poison Path Herbal in the show notes below! Episode Overview In this riveting episode of Higher Density Living, host Jason Rigby sits down with occult herbalist Coby Michael to explore the forbidden and transformative world of the Poison Path Grimoire. Dive into the mysteries of dark herbalism, where plants like Belladonna, Datura, and Foxglove serve as spiritual allies, shattering egos, reflecting shadows, and unlocking ancient wisdom. Coby reveals how poison isn't just a physical threat—it's a rebellious mirror to our deepest fears, offering a path to empowerment and rebirth. From plant spirit communication to the psychedelic renaissance, this episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking authentic spiritual growth beyond the "Frosted Flakes" sugar-coated norm. Key Topics Covered The Poison Path as a Mirror: How poison plants reflect hidden aspects of the self (01:22) Shadow Work with Poison Plants: Unveiling the seductive and shameful facets of the shadow (03:48) Ego Death vs. Physical Death: Safely navigating nightshades for alchemical transformation (06:51) Poison as Rebellion: The Promethean archetype and modern defiance of societal norms (10:52) Balancing Balm and Bane: Maintaining equilibrium on the crooked path (14:43) Plant Spirit Communication (Phytonosis): How Belladonna and Foxglove speak through images and feelings (18:21) The Otherness of Poison: Reconciling the occult with everyday life (20:57) Veneficium and Love Potions: Lessons on love, self-love, and boundaries from Venusian plants (25:22) Belladonna's Warrior Spirit: Tapping into martial energy for personal and systemic battles (33:32) Yew Tree Self-Sacrifice: Odin's ritual and shedding the self for growth (36:14) Poison Path vs. Psychedelic Renaissance: A grounded alternative to Ayahuasca tourism (43:30) Animism and Plant Consciousness: Reshaping our bond with the natural world (52:18) Legacy of the Poison Path: Empowerment and rethinking poison over the next decade (53:59) Timestamps & Detailed Breakdown 00:01 - Introduction: Welcome to the Wild World of the Poison Path Jason introduces Coby Michael's Poison Path Grimoire, teasing the power of plants like Belladonna and Datura to "kill your ego" and "set you free." Keywords: Poison Path, dark herbalism, spiritual allies, ego death. 00:36 - Coby Michael Joins the Show Coby expresses excitement for the discussion, setting the stage for a deep dive into occult herbalism. 01:22 - The Poison Path as a Mirror Coby explains how "poison" is a broad, misunderstood term, shaped by human perceptions over centuries. Poison plants reflect our shadow selves—parts we fear or deny. Key Quote: "It all comes down to dosage, circumstances, and how these plants are employed." SEO Keywords: shadow self, poison plants, occult herbalism. 03:48 - Personal Story: Shadow Work with Poison Plants Coby shares how Saturn-ruled plants (e.g., nightshades) require slow, gradual work, drawing out empowering and shameful shadow aspects. Example: Feeling drawn to their "sinister, badass" vibe revealed his own disempowerment. Takeaway: Poison plants seduce you, then force reflection. Keywords: shadow work, Saturn plants, personal transformation. 06:51 - From Physical Death to Ego Death Coby emphasizes safety: physical death is possible, but the goal is ego death—an alchemical detachment from unhelpful self-aspects. Practical Tips: Start with meditation, topical oils, or flower essences, not ingestion. Keywords: ego death, nightshades, safe plant practices. 08:53 - The Rebirth Experience Rebirth "sucks"—it's raw, stripping away cycles like vampiric relationships, leaving you to relearn life. Worth It? Yes, for genuine transformation. Key Quote: "You're a fresh little entity, navigating the world in a brand new way." Keywords: rebirth, transformation, shadow healing. 10:52 - Poison as Rebellion Coby ties poison to the Promethean archetype—stealing forbidden knowledge against patriarchal oppression. Modern Relevance: A rebellion against submissive societal norms. Keywords: Promethean archetype, poison rebellion, transgressive power. 14:43 - Balancing Balm and Bane on the Crooked Path Poison plants heal as much as they harm; balance them with tonic herbs like rose or chamomile. Challenge: Avoiding depression or malaise from lingering in darkness too long. Personal Insight: Coby's fiery natal chart led to physical depletion without self-care. Keywords: crooked path, balance, tonic herbs. 18:21 - Plant Spirit Communication (Phytonosis) Phytonosis = plant-derived knowledge via images, emotions, or voices (e.g., Belladonna's persona). How-To: Meditate with plants, study their lore, notice recurring thoughts. Keywords: phytonosis, plant spirits, spiritual communication. 20:57 - The Otherness of Poison Poison historically "others" groups (e.g., Jews, women, witches), yet grounds us in the earthly realm. Contrast: Unlike celestial psychedelics, poison plants keep you rooted. Keywords: otherness, poison history, grounding spirituality. 25:22 - Veneficium: Love Potions and Poison Venusian plants blur love and harm (e.g., ancient aphrodisiacs doubling as poisons). Lesson: Self-love trumps all; set boundaries without fear. Keywords: veneficium, love potions, self-love. 31:32 - Practical Tip for Beginners: Foxglove For relationship struggles, Foxglove offers gentle heart healing. How: Use as a flower essence or meditate with its glyph (The Poison Path Herbal). Keywords: foxglove, heart healing, beginner plant practice. 33:32 - Belladonna's Valkyrie Spirit Beyond seduction, Belladonna embodies a feral, martial energy for fighting adversity. Application: Dismantle outdated societal structures. Keywords: Belladonna, warrior spirit, systemic injustice. 36:14 - Yew Tree Self-Sacrifice Inspired by Odin's sacrifice, shed unserving life aspects (e.g., Coby's marriage, pets). Catalyst: A Belladonna-Henbane ceremony sparked his 10-year transformation. Keywords: Yew tree, self-sacrifice, shamanic death. 43:30 - Poison Path vs. Psychedelic Renaissance The psychedelic boom (e.g., Ayahuasca tourism) contrasts with the grounded Poison Path. Contribution: Offers subtle, chthonic alternatives to celestial blasts. Keywords: psychedelic renaissance, Ayahuasca, chthonic plants. 52:18 - Animism and Plant Consciousness Plants have undeniable consciousness, reshaping Coby's empathy for nature. To Skeptics: Science backs it—skepticism is outdated. Keywords: animism, plant consciousness, non-human intelligence. 53:59 - Legacy and Future of the Poison Path Legacy: Empowerment to rethink poison and integrate it personally. Future: A third book, then amplifying collective voices over the next decade. Keywords: Poison Path legacy, empowerment, future evolution. 57:36 - Closing Thoughts & Resources Jason reflects: The Poison Path confronts fear, enabling love. Coby's Website: thepoisonersapothecary.com Social: @PoisonersApothecary on Instagram Keywords: fear vs. love, Coby Michael resources. Key Takeaways Poison Reflects the Shadow: Plants like Belladonna mirror hidden fears and strengths, pushing you toward integration. Ego Death is the Goal: Safely detach from ego, not destroy it, using gradual practices. Rebellion Fuels Transformation: Poison defies taboos, turning personal poisons into power. Balance is Essential: Pair dark plants with light tonics to avoid burnout. Plants Speak: Through phytonosis, they guide us with subtle wisdom. Grounded Alternative: Unlike the psychedelic hype, the Poison Path roots you in reality. Resources Mentioned Books: [The Poison Path Grimoire]– Coby's latest work on dark herbalism. [The Poison Path Herbal] – Includes practical glyphs like Foxglove's. Website: thepoisonersapothecary.com – Articles, formulas, and products. Social Media: Follow @PoisonersApothecary on Instagram for updates. 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One of the worst things you could be in a cult is selfish. Pursue a career? Selfish. Go to college? Selfish. Skip a meeting because you're too exhausted to feign interest? Selfish. When you're handed the grandiose mission of saving the human race from Armageddon, even a tiny spark of personal joy starts to feel like a moral failure. But now you're out. You survived. And for the first time, you can do anything you want. The only problem? You've never been allowed to want anything for yourself. It feels weird. It feels wrong. You feel guilty. (Which, of course, is by design.) In this episode, we're going to deconstruct and recalibrate the idea of "selfish"—and explore why taking care of your own needs isn't just okay… it's essential. For your healing, and for the people you love. We'll cover: How high-control religion weaponizes "selflessness" to keep you obedient Why everything we do—including “selfless” acts—is actually motivated by self-interest (and that's not a bad thing) The beautiful irony: how prioritizing your joy makes you more generous, more grounded, and more whole This is your permission slip to want things, try things, and be a little gloriously selfish—for your own sanity, healing, and yes, the joy of eventually giving back from a full cup. DrRyanLee.com/beyondbelief
✨ Episode Summary:In this sacred solo episode, I share the story of how grief, divine timing, and deep surrender led me to finally sit with Mother Ayahuasca — a journey through death, rebirth, and feminine embodiment that forever changed me.
What if the clarity you're seeking—mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual—has always been hiding in the plants around you? In this solo episode, Darin Olien dives deep into the world of clarogenic plants—natural allies that indigenous cultures have used for centuries to unlock focus, purpose, and deep inner harmony. From adaptogens and dream-inducing herbs to ancient sacred botanicals used in vision quests and spiritual rituals, this episode opens a new portal to understanding clarity not as something to chase—but something to remember. What You'll Learn in This Episode: 00:00 – Welcome to the SuperLife solo episode on clarogenic plants 01:00 – What “clarogenic” really means: mental, physical, and spiritual clarity 02:10 – These aren't just detox tools—they're consciousness-enhancers 03:00 – Why our modern world clouds our system: EMFs, stress, food, tech 04:00 – Ayahuasca, vision quests, and Darin's early plant medicine experiences 06:00 – Plants that bring clarity without psychedelics: assam, sacred tobacco, and nicotine 08:00 – Iboga and its role in trauma release and truth-seeking 09:00 – Elevation plants: kanna, kola nut, and their brain-enhancing effects 10:00 – Sage and sweetgrass: clarity of space as a spiritual detox 11:00 – Tulsi, Bacopa, sandalwood, reishi, and herbs that calm and clear 13:00 – Ginseng, Schisandra, and the “chi” of hormonal balance 14:00 – Kava for emotional stability and nervous system clarity 15:00 – Noni and durian: pungent powerhouses for detox and calm 16:00 – Studies backing bacopa, Rhodiola, and ginkgo for cognition 17:00 – Gōtu Kola and its antioxidant, brain-clearing properties 18:00 – The true purpose of herbs: they are information, not just nutrition 19:00 – Liver clarity through milk thistle, dandelion, burdock root 20:00 – Chlorella, spirulina, and their role in cellular cleansing 21:00 – Internal vs. external sage: clearing your space and your system 22:00 – Frankincense for depression, Tulsi for divine connection 23:00 – How to build your own daily ritual of clarogenesis 24:00 – Darin's parasite cleanse experience + physical stagnation 25:00 – Why detox is emotional and spiritual, not just physical 26:00 – Plants help you remember who you are 27:00 – This is more than health—it's a revolution of clarity 28:00 – Final thoughts: clarity is alignment, not hustle Thank You to Our Sponsor: Bite Toothpaste: Go to trybite.com/DARIN20 or use code DARIN20 for 20% off your first order. Fatty15: Get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to https://fatty15.com/DARIN and using code DARIN at checkout. Find More From Darin Olien: Website: darinolien.com Instagram: @darinolien SuperLife Products: superlife.com Book: Fatal Conveniences Key Takeaway: "These plants don't just heal you. They help you remember who you are." – Darin Olien
Ayahuasca, NASA & the Origins of Life | Dr. Bruce Damer on Psychedelics, Science & Consciousness What if psychedelics aren't just medicines for healing—but elixirs of discovery? In this boundary-breaking episode of The Awaken Podcast, Dr. Bruce Damer—astrophysicist, visionary researcher, and President of the Center for MINDS—joins Natasja Pelgrom for a groundbreaking conversation on psychedelic-catalyzed insight and its role in shaping the future of science, technology, and human understanding.
On this episode of The Zach Show, Adam Butler and Zach discuss DMT, the psychedelic molecule that Adam claims saved his life. From suicidal despair in the desert to conversations with God, demons, and dimensional beings, Adam recounts his transformation through DMT with brutal honesty and poetic grit. We unpack the “Miracle Molecule” from every angle: the effects of endogenous DMT, why it shows up at birth and death, its role in altered states, and what happens when you smoke, drink, or breathe your way into it. Adam shares his thoughts on DMT as a tool for shadow work, transcendental sex, artistic creativity, and spiritual rebirth. We also examine the fine line between mysticism and madness, and why he believes DMT is not just a drug, but a key to consciousness itself. Whether you're a seasoned psychonaut or a curious skeptic, this conversation will challenge your assumptions about reality, identity, and the nature of the soul. Guest Bio: Adam Butler is a psychedelic philosopher and passionate DMT psychonaut focusing on mental health, neuroplasticity, self-exploration, and the extreme limits of human potential and ability. He is the author of 'Butler's DMT Field Guide: A Brief History, Step-by-Step Recipes, and Personal Experiences From a DMT Saturated Consciousness' SUPPORT THE ZACH SHOW BY SUBSCRIBING TO THE ZACH SHOW 2.0 (BONUS EPISODES & EXCLUSIVE CONTENT): https://auxoro.supercast.com/ ADAM BUTLER LINKS:DMT Field Guide (Amazon): https://bit.ly/4jUQ33uInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/booksbyadambutler/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ButlersDMTFieldGuide THE ZACH SHOW LINKS: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/auxoroYouTube: https://bit.ly/3CLjEqFNewsletter: https://therealzachwrites.substack.com/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@auxoropod To support the show, please leave a review on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. This nudges the algorithm to show The Zach Show to more new listeners and is the best way to help the show grow. Thank you for your support: Review us on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/458nbhaReview us on Spotify: https://bit.ly/43ZLrAt
Isabel Allende didn't publish her first book until she was 39, after losing nearly everything in the wake of the Chilean military coup. More than four decades later, she's become one of the most beloved Spanish-language authors, with over 80 million copies of her books sold worldwide. After political exile, writing books became Allende's way of making sense of the world. She wrote through divorce, affairs, and moving across continents. But after the devastating loss of her daughter Paula, even writing felt impossible, until her mother urged her to begin again. “My mother knew that the only way for me to walk the tunnel of grief was writing,” she says. In this episode, Anna and Isabel talk about loss, late starts, and new beginnings. Isabel met her most recent husband, Roger, in her late 70s, “an age when most people are knitting for their great-grandchildren.” Allende's newest novel, “My Name Is Emilia del Valle,” is out now. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Isabel Allende didn't publish her first book until she was 39, after losing nearly everything in the wake of the Chilean military coup. More than four decades later, she's become one of the most beloved Spanish-language authors, with over 80 million copies of her books sold worldwide. After political exile, writing books became Allende's way of making sense of the world. She wrote through divorce, affairs, and moving across continents. But after the devastating loss of her daughter Paula, even writing felt impossible, until her mother urged her to begin again. “My mother knew that the only way for me to walk the tunnel of grief was writing,” she says. In this episode, Anna and Isabel talk about loss, late starts, and new beginnings. Isabel met her most recent husband, Roger, in her late 70s, “an age when most people are knitting for their great-grandchildren.” Allende's newest novel, “My Name Is Emilia del Valle,” is out now. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Isabel Allende didn't publish her first book until she was 39, after losing nearly everything in the wake of the Chilean military coup. More than four decades later, she's become one of the most beloved Spanish-language authors, with over 80 million copies of her books sold worldwide. After political exile, writing books became Allende's way of making sense of the world. She wrote through divorce, affairs, and moving across continents. But after the devastating loss of her daughter Paula, even writing felt impossible, until her mother urged her to begin again. “My mother knew that the only way for me to walk the tunnel of grief was writing,” she says. In this episode, Anna and Isabel talk about loss, late starts, and new beginnings. Isabel met her most recent husband, Roger, in her late 70s, “an age when most people are knitting for their great-grandchildren.” Allende's newest novel, “My Name Is Emilia del Valle,” is out now. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Isabel Allende didn't publish her first book until she was 39, after losing nearly everything in the wake of the Chilean military coup. More than four decades later, she's become one of the most beloved Spanish-language authors, with over 80 million copies of her books sold worldwide. After political exile, writing books became Allende's way of making sense of the world. She wrote through divorce, affairs, and moving across continents. But after the devastating loss of her daughter Paula, even writing felt impossible, until her mother urged her to begin again. “My mother knew that the only way for me to walk the tunnel of grief was writing,” she says. In this episode, Anna and Isabel talk about loss, late starts, and new beginnings. Isabel met her most recent husband, Roger, in her late 70s, “an age when most people are knitting for their great-grandchildren.” Allende's newest novel, “My Name Is Emilia del Valle,” is out now. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Isabel Allende didn't publish her first book until she was 39, after losing nearly everything in the wake of the Chilean military coup. More than four decades later, she's become one of the most beloved Spanish-language authors, with over 80 million copies of her books sold worldwide. After political exile, writing books became Allende's way of making sense of the world. She wrote through divorce, affairs, and moving across continents. But after the devastating loss of her daughter Paula, even writing felt impossible, until her mother urged her to begin again. “My mother knew that the only way for me to walk the tunnel of grief was writing,” she says. In this episode, Anna and Isabel talk about loss, late starts, and new beginnings. Isabel met her most recent husband, Roger, in her late 70s, “an age when most people are knitting for their great-grandchildren.” Allende's newest novel, “My Name Is Emilia del Valle,” is out now. Death, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus. And if you're new to the show, welcome. We're so glad you're here. Find us and follow us on Instagram and you can find Anna's newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mi huesped en este episodio es Claude Guislain, un antropólogo peruano que pasa la mayor parte de su tiempo con pueblos indígenas en Perú, Colombia y Brasil. Con su primera investigación sobre el uso de la ayahuasca y el chamanismo por parte de los occidentales en Iquitos (2005-2007), inició el viaje que lo llevó a dedicar su vida a tender un puente entre la sabiduría indígena y el mundo moderno. A lo largo de más de quince años dedicados casi exclusivamente a apoyar tanto a curanderos indígenas como a pacientes y exploradores occidentales, ha estado al servicio de los procesos de curación de cientos de personas. Ha estado trabajando y formándose con los Shipibo desde 2013, ayudando a la familia López a construir su propio centro. Fue facilitador y asesor en relaciones indígenas en el Templo del Camino de la Luz (2015-2023). Trabaja y aprende con un mamo Arhuaco desde 2012, con un Jaguar del yurupari del Tubú desde 2016 y con el pueblo Yawanawa de Brasil desde 2018.Hoy es asesor y miembro del Comité Técnico del Fondo de Conservación de Medicinas Indígenas y colabora también con ICEERS, y otras organizaciones, inspirándolas y ayudándolas a tejer sus esfuerzos y dones con los procesos indígenas de base.Notas del Episodio* La historia y esperanza de Claude* La idealizacion de los pueblos indigenas* El renacimiento psicodelico* Curacion y cantos* Contradicciones en el turismo psicodelico* La deforestacion, la demanda y la continuidad del conocimiento* Conservacion biocultural* ICEERS & MSCTareaClaude Guislain - Facebook - InstagramIndigenous Medicine Conservation FundInternational Center for Ethnobotanical Education, Research and ServiceTranscripcion en Espanol (English Below)Chris: Bienvenido Claude, al podcast El Fin del Turismo.Claude: Chris. Muchas gracias.Chris: Me gustaría saber si podrías explicar un poco de dónde te encuentras hoy y cómo el mundo aparece para ti?Claude: Buena pregunta. Estoy, ahora mismo estoy en Rio de Janeiro, donde vivo. Soy peruano y también estudié antropología y dedico mucho mi tiempo a los pueblos indígenas, sobre todo en Brasil, en Colombia y en Perú y he estado trabajando en las Amazonas durante muchos años. Y como veo el mundo hoy, desde aquí, pues con mucha preocupación, evidentemente, pero también por lo que hago con alguna esperanza, Chris: Yeah y pues en esa cuestión de lo que haces y de lo que hemos hablado antes, parece que es un gran camino, un camino de ya [00:01:00] décadas y décadas. Y me gustaría, si podemos viendo un un poco más de ese camino. Podrías comentar un poco de cómo llegaste en este gran momento sea por tus viajes, a otros países, a otros mundos, a otros maestros y maestras. Claude: Sí, claro, a ver cómo te explico. Llevo unos 20 años trabajando con lo indigena en general, pero sobre todo con el tema de espiritualidad, plantas maestras como la ayahuasca y esas cosas, y llegue ahí como, creo que, como la mayoría de personas que hoy en día llegan ahí a la selva, o a buscar estas medicinas como se les llaman, que es una, una cierta o una profunda insatisfacción por nuestra propia cultura, por la respuesta que nuestra propia sociedad [00:02:00] nos puede dar existenciales, diría yo. Es como siempre hay una pregunta que uno se dice, "No tiene que haber algo más. No puede ser eso solamente." Esa propuesta, digamos de occidente, no puede ser solamente eso, debe haber algo más, verdad? Entonces eso me embarcó a mí en una búsqueda desde, no sé cuando tenía por ahí unos veinti, veinti y pocos años.Que me llevó a experimentar estas medicinas como la ayahuasca, el San Pedro, los hongos, no por una cosa lúdica, ni ni evasiva, sino por el contrario, con una curiosidad por otras formas de saber y conocer, . Entonces yo me acerqué a estas medicinas, con curiosidad de entender cómo los pueblos indígenas saben lo que saben. Cuál es el origen de su [00:03:00] conocimimomento verdad?Entonces, estudié antropología. Me alejé de la academia rápidamente porque, me pareció mucho más interesante lo que me enseñaban los abuelos que para la antropología eran mis informantes, verdad? Era como, tenía que a mi informante tal, el informante tal. Y me di cuenta que no, que no eran mis informantes, sino que eran maestros y aprendía mucho más con ellos que lo que me enseñaba los libros, o las clases, o los seminarios, verdad?Entonces decidí mas dedicarme a seguirlos a ellos y a seguir aprendiendo con ellos, y ver de qué manera los podía ayudar a ellos. Estos abuelos, estos sabios indígenas. Y eso me llevó a un camino maravilloso de que hoy en día le llamo "la gente puente," no? O sea, gente que estamos en ese lugar de interface, entre el conocimimomento, la sabiduría que nos queda de los pueblos [00:04:00] indígenas y el mundo occidental, el mundo moderno. Y en ese nuevo tipo de encuentro que está surgiendo hace una década o tal vez dos décadas. Es este nuevo tipo de encuentro de nuestros mundos, verdad? Que hasta hoy era, siempre había sido extremadamente problemático, sino asesino, verdad? La manera con nuestro mundo occidental se encontraba con los mundos indígenas era pues y destructor. Hoy en día nos encontramos en una manera diferente, en el que muchos jóvenes y adultos y gente del norte global llegan en busca de conocimiento, de sabiduría, de cura, de sanación, de alternativas, buscando respuestas que nuestra propia civilización no nos puede dar. Habiendo un hambre, una sed de sentido por algo mayor, pues mucha gente empieza a ir allá con otros ojos, con un [00:05:00] respeto que no creo que había existido antes. Y eso trae cosas positivas y cosas negativas, evidentemente.Parece ser que estamos mal. Hay una gran maldición, que, como todo lo que toca, occidente eventualmente se vuelve en un gran desastre. parece como un súper bonito, súper maravilloso, ilusorio, nos enamora, nos seduce, pero después al poco tiempo nos vamos dando cuenta de las de las terribles consecuencias que traemos, verdad?Pero algo, no sé, algo también está cambiando, algo está mudando. Hay como una cierta madurez de ambos lados, tanto de los del lado indígena como del lado no indígena para encontrarnos desde un lugar en donde podemos celebrar nuestras diferencias y entender que esas diferencias son material para la construcción de un tiempo nuevo, verdad?Entonces esa es la parte que traigo un poco de esperanza. Chris: Ya, qué bonito. Gracias, Claude . o sea, yo siento [00:06:00] mucho de la esperanza, pero también de la desesperación por alguien que ha visitado a varios pueblos indígenas en las Amazonas hace como 15 años de más ya, en ese tiempo esas medicinas fueron llegando poco a poco a la mentalidad colectiva del occidente. Y pues me ha ayudado un montón, no solo por cuestiones espirituales, pero también por reparar el daño que hice a mi cuerpo, por ejemplo, pero también metiendome en esos círculos, en las Amazonas, por ejemplo, pero también mi tierra nativa Toronto, Canadá y otras partes Oaxaca, México. hemos visto poco a poco la descuidado de la sabiduría indígena, las culturas indígenas, las medicinas, y más que nada, las contradicciones que [00:07:00] aparece dentro de el renacimiento" psicodélico. Entonces, ya tienes mucho tiempo en esos no solo respecto a la medicina, pero también en las culturas indígenas en las Amazonas. Me gustaría preguntarte que has visto allá en el sentido de contradicciones, sobre el turismo sobre la medicina, puede ser el lado del extranjero viniendo para sanarse, o igual los locales o indígenas aprovechando al momento.Claude: Contradicciones tienen todas las culturas, tienen contradicciones. Y la contradicción principal es entre lo que se dice, no? Lo que se profesa y lo que uno ve en la práctica no? Es como si tú vas a la iglesia y escuchas al pastor hablando de cómo debe ser un buen cristiano.Y después te paseas por yo que sé por Chicago o por ciudad de México, y ves lo que [00:08:00] son los cristianos y dices wow hay una enorme contradicción, verdad? Es terrible la contradicción Cuando hablamos de los pueblos indígenas y de los conocimientos, de los pueblos indígenas, la sabiduría indígena, parece ser que hablamos desde un lugar de idealización no?Y a mí no me gustaría, caer en eso de idealizar sino tratar de ser muy concreto. Una cosa es la realidad, que es realmente terrible. Vivimos en un momento que es la cúspide, es la continuación de un proceso de colonialismo, de exterminación que no fue algo que sucedió con la llegada de los españoles, y los portugueses y el tiempo de la conquista. Y no fue algo que pasó.Es algo que sigue pasando,. Es algo que [00:09:00] sigue pasando. Como decía el gran Aílton Krenak, un gran líder indígena de aquí de Brasil, y un intelectual, miembro de la academia brasilera de las letras, recientemente. Decía lo que ustedes no entienden es que su mundo sigue en guerra con nuestro mundo. El decía eso. Él lo dice, o sea, ustedes no entienden que el mundo occidental, el mundo moderno continúa en guerra y de, y haciendo todos los esfuerzos para que las culturas indígenas desaparezcan.O sea, en la práctica, eso es lo que estamos haciendo. Entonces, cuando yo hablo de esperanza, hablo porque hay algo que está surgiendo, que es nuevo, pero realmente es muy pequeño. Y como dices tú, cuando, o sea, la expansión de la ayahuasca, del San Pedro, de lo del peyote y de una cierto [00:10:00] respeto y un cierto entendimiento sobre la importancia de los conocimientos indígenas, todavia realmente e no entendemos eso, no entendemos. Y cuando hablamos desde el norte global, y lo que se llama esta el renacimiento psicodélico, cuando hablan de los pueblos indígenas, hay una idealización, sobre todo, es solamente parte de un discurso que es un poco "woke." Es un poco para hacer bonito tu discurso, pero en la práctica no se ve, no, no, no ocupa un lugar importante. Ya está diseñado el camino por donde va esta revolución psicodélica, es extraer los principios activos de las plantas, hacer medicamentos, de hacer una pastilla que va a ayudar a la gente a mantenerse en mejor forma dentro de la locura que propone occidente.Cómo le damos a la gente [00:11:00] herramientas para que se adapten y para que resistan, es el absurdo al que los estamos sometiendo, eso es realmente. O sea necesitamos ya drogas como "Brave New World", no como "soma". Te sientes deprimido? Tómate tus pastillas. Estás cuestionando mucho las cosas, tomate esto para que puedas seguir funcionando y operando y produciendo, verdad?Pero hay una cosa muy, muy clara para mí, es que aún no hemos logrado entender la magnitud de los conocimientos indígenas. Y digo conocimientos, y no creencias porque en general, cuando hablamos de los pueblos indígenas, lo que sabe un chamán, como le dicen, un curandero, o lo que hablan ellos alrededor de su espiritualidad, la gente piensa, "ah, son sus creencias." Y en el mejor de los casos, dice "ay qué bonito, hay [00:12:00] que respetarlo, hay que cuidar sus derechos, y tienen derechos culturales y tienen todo el derecho a creer en lo que creen." Pero cuando decimos creencias, también es una incomprensión porque de creencia tiene muy poco en realidad.Cuando uno estudia más, y cuando uno profundiza sobre lo que sabe hacer un curandero, un ayahuasquero, Shipibo, Ashaninka, Huni Kuin, Karipuna, Noke Koi Kofan, lo que ellos saben, no tiene nada que ver con las creencias. No tiene nada que ver con la adoración religiosa de ciertas deidades. Nada que ver. Estamos hablando de conocimiento profundamente práctico, verdad?Es una acumulación de conocimientos durante generaciones y generaciones por estudiosos de la selva, que se organiza este [00:13:00] conocimiento. Socialmente y además que se transmite con un método. Hay un método muy estricto, muy específico de transmisión de estos conocimientos y de estas maneras de conocer, entonces te acabo de dar una definición no de una religión. Te acabo de dar una definición de ciencia.Entonces, lo que no hemos llegado a entender hasta ahora es que lo poquito que ha sobrevivido hasta hoy de esos conocimientos se asemeja mucho más a una ciencia que a una religión. Es mucho más un conocimiento práctico que una creencia religiosa, verdad? Y en ese sentido, es de suma importancia. Y entonces, cuando tenemos más y más personas tienen esta experiencia, qué es lo que pasa?Mucha gente viene a la selva en Iquitos, he trabajado muchos años, durante años he sido como el centro principal donde he recibido mucha gente para [00:14:00] tomar ayahuasca y esas cosas, y viene gente a sanarse de cosas que en sus países, pues no, nadie los puede sanar de depresiones, de traumas, cosas físicas también, pero sobre todo cosas psicológicas, verdad? Y después vuelven y dice "oh, yo tomé ayahuasca y me curé." "Cómo te curaste?" "Ah, fui, tomé ayahuasca," pero nadie dice estuve tomando con un viejo que todas las noches me cantaba durante media hora. Y después venía en la mañana y me preguntaba cómo era mis sueños. Y después venía con otros remedios y me daba y me hacía unos baños. Y cuando me hacía esos baños me cantaba de nuevo. Y después me daba esto, y me daba esta medicina y me cantaba, y cuando él me cantaba, me hacía ver este tipo de... Nadie habla de eso. La gente dice "yo tomé ayahuasca y el ayahuasca me curó", pero el viejito que estaba cantando solamente parece un accesorio de un viejito cantando.Pero no es así.La mayoría de la gente dice, "Wow, cómo te curaste de eso? Qué pasó? Qué hiciste?"Ah ya tomé ayahuasca. El ayahuasca me curó." Verdad? Realmente yo he escuchado muy poca gente decir "el abuelito, la abuelita, me dio ayahuasca, pero me cantó durante horas, me dio baños, me preguntó mis sueños, adaptó todas las plantas y el tratamiento que iba haciendo según mis sueños, según lo que iba viendo. Cuando me cantaba, me guiaba para ver cosas, o no ver cosas." Parece ser que el abuelito que cantaba fuese un accesorio, decoración. Y no realmente, no le damos crédito al trabajo profundo que ellos hacen, y el conocimiento que ponen en practica. Y no es extraño porque es muy difícil de entender, cómo una persona cantando, me va, me va a curar con un canto, verdad? No, como para nosotros, es muy difícil, no tiene sentido. [00:01:00] Tiene que ser la substancia que tomaste y que se metió en tu cerebro y hizo alguna cosas de conexiones neurológicas. Yo que sé. No puede ser esa cosa, porque para nosotros, ya sería el pensamiento mágico, verdad?Pero como te digo, eso que nosotros llamamos pensamiento mágico para ellos no es un pensamiento mágico. Es un conocimiento muy concreto que se aprende que tiene métodos de aprendizaje. Son conocimientos y habilidades, y capacidades que se adquieren con métodos de transmisión, verdad? Y hasta ahora no hemos logrado darle realmente el lugar que le corresponde a eso.Por el contrario, estamos impactando en eso de maneras muy profundas, y hay una contradicción fundamental que yo veo en lo, en para volver un poco a la pregunta que me haces. En todo este turismo que ha llegado, y [00:02:00] esta fascinación, este interés. Cuáles son los impactos que esto ha tenido en las comunidades indígenas en el mundo indígena, verdad?Entonces yo creo que hay dos cosas que parecen ser un poco contradictorias. Por un lado, hay una gran bendición. Hace 20 años, tú no veías gente de nuestra edad, jóvenes interesados en sentarse con los abuelos y aprender realmente, y ser continuadores de esas tradiciones y cultivadores de ese tipo de conocimientos.La mayoría de gente de nuestra edad, un poco más viejos, hasta la edad de nuestro, gente que tiene hoy día 50, 55 años, 60 años, no querían hacer, no. Querían ser profesores interculturales bilingües, querían ser [00:03:00] profesionales, pertenecer al mundo de los blancos, verdad? Entonces, los viejos, eran de un tiempo pasado que estaba destinado a extinguirse.Entonces, con la llegada de los occidentales y con este interés por esas cosas, ha habido cierto renacimiento y sobre todo, un verdadero interés de la juventud por aprender estas cosas como una alternativa profesional, digamos. Digamos, oye, para qué voy a ser abogado? Si yo, si mira todos los gringos que están viniendo, yo puedo ser esto y me va a ir mejor, verdad?Entonces, por un lado, hay esa parte que, hoy en día vemos, por ejemplo, en los Shipibo, muchísima gente que está aprendiendo, verdad? Muchos jóvenes están interesados, no solamente en los Shipibo, pero sino, pero en muchos lugares en Brasil, en Colombia, en Ecuador, yo veo, veo eso, una juventud que está poco a poco interesándose más y [00:04:00] volviendo a sus propias raíces.Es como, como decir, todo desde que eres niño, siempre te dicen, "los antiguos ser una porquería ya ese mundo acabó, lo único que cuenta es la modernidad y integrarse a la vida urbana, a la vida oficial de esta civilización, ir a la iglesia, tener una carrera, y ser alguien en la vida," verdad?Y entonces era como, y los estados con políticas de esa naturaleza, los gobiernos, los estados de nuestros países, era, pues la cuestión indígena era cómo civilizamos a los indios. Civilizar al indio no es otra cosa que hacerlo olvidar de sus sistemas, de sus culturas, pero como una parte así de como digo, "woke," no como, "ay, que lindo los indios que mantengan sus danzas, que mantengan su folclore, que mantengan [00:05:00] sus ropitas y que mantengan su ciertas cosas que es como bonito, que ellos mantengan como algo pintoresco y algo folclórico," pero sin entender realmente la profundidad. Pero hoy en día, yo creo que en gran medida, gracias a esto, no solamente, es una cosa más compleja evidentemente, pero, la juventud, viendo que hay esta llegada de blancos, de extranjeros, de gringos, no? Interesadisimos por los conocimientos de los abuelos, por la medicina. Y que van y están ahí, dicen "uy acá tiene que haber algo interesante, yo también quiero aprender." Si a los gringos les gusta esto, es porque algo bueno debe haber entiendes? Llegamos a ese punto en que estaba destinado a desaparecer, pero de una a otra manera, hay un renacimiento, verdad? Al mismo tiempo, [00:06:00] en la transmisión de estos conocimientos, como te decía sumamente complejos, sumamente estricta, estrictos métodos de transmisión, pues se ha tenido que simplificar porque los jóvenes no están aptos ya, habiendo ido a la escuela, teniendo un pie en la ciudad. No, no es tan aptos ni tienen el interés, ni las condiciones, ni las aptitudes para realmente entrar en esos procesos como lo podían haber hecho los abuelos, que hoy en día tienen 70, 80 años, verdad, que fueron realmente los últimos. A menos que uno se vaya muy lejos en la selva donde lugares que no tienen mucho contacto, que ellos todavía deben de mantener algunas cosas, pero ellos están alejados también de estos circuitos, Pero entonces, sí, hay una gran simplificación de estos sistemas. Entonces se pierden muchas cosas. Para bien o para mal, no? Mucha gente dice, bueno, por lo menos se está perdiendo toda esta parte de la brujería y [00:07:00] los ataques chamánicos y toda esa cosa, pero a lo cual se le da mucha, mucha importancia que tampoco logramos entender, porque nosotros lo vemos con esa visión judeo cristiana, esa distinción maniquea del bien y del mal, que en los mundos indígenas no es que no exista, sino que es totalmente diferente, no?. Y eso forma parte de esas diferencias que son importantes de entender y de respetar, verdad? Entonces, toda esta parte que nosotros vemos como brujería, como diabólico y tal, tienen su función dentro de un sistema, y que no, tratar de hacerlo desaparecer es hacer desaparecer el sistema mismo, verdad?Porque no lo entendemos. Es lo mismo que pasa, es lo que ha pasado siempre, algo que nos escandaliza, entonces lo queremos cambiar, pero nos escandaliza desde nuestra propia visión del mundo y no estamos entendiéndolo desde la visión de [00:08:00] ellos. No quiere decir que todo se puede relativizar, verdad? Hay cosas que son, pues muy difíciles, no, y muy delicadas, pero en en reglas general, cuando hay algo que nos escandaliza, lo queremos cambiar, sin realmente profundizar en un entendimiento de la función de esas cosas, pues estamos siguiendo los mismos patrones que los curas que llegaban hace 400 años, 500 años. Que decían ah, esto es diabólico. Tenemos que extirpar estas cosas, no? Entonces seguimos haciendo eso. Entonces, por un lado, vemos que hay un renacimiento del interés de la juventud y una reconexión con su propia identidad al mismo tiempo que hay una simplificación algo peligrosa de estos sistemas, quiere decir que los jóvenes que de aquí a poco van a ser los abuelos no saben la [00:09:00] mitad de lo que sabían sus abuelos. Saben lo mínimo indispensable que sirve para darle al gringo lo que requiere, lo que necesita, lo que está buscando, lo suficiente para hacer negocio en realidad y eso no es para culparlos a ellos, sino que es parte del sistema en el que estamos navegando, porque todo funciona así. Para qué te vas a profundizar tanto si con este mínimo ya te alcanza? Sobre todo cuando vemos que muchos gringos, muchos extranjeros van toman ayahuasca unas cuantas veces o hacen alguna dieta, y después se llevan ayahuasca a sus países, se ponen las plumas, agarran su guitarrita, y empiezan a cantar estas cosas como decoración alrededor de esta experiencia y hacen mucho dinero. Y así se ha ido expandiendo la ayahuasca por el mundo, verdad? Y eso cumple su función también. No es para juzgarlo, pero [00:10:00] también hay, es de una superficialidad, muchas veces, hiriente, cuando tú ves lo que sabe un abuelo y lo que ha tenido que pasar las dificultades, las pruebas y las responsabilidades que tiene un curandero amazónico para su comunidad, y los sistemas de rendición de cuentas que son los que más o menos lo mantienen a raya, que uno no puede hacer lo que le da la gana con ese poder, sino que hay un sistema de control, cuando esto sale y se va afuera en estos círculos, medios new age, medios hippie, medio neochamánico, pues toda esa cuestión se pierde y se empiezan a inventar un montón de cosas, y sobre todo, un discurso que es bastante problemático. Entonces surge esta idea que la ayahuasca es la panacea universal, y "la madrecita ayahuasca" me [00:11:00] dijo, y, "esto es lo que va a salvar el mundo." Entonces más personas tenemos que buscar la forma que más y más personas tengan esta experiencia para salvar el mundo verdad? Y la verdad que yo creo que eso no es así. Si fuera así, si fuera por la cantidad de ayahuasca que se toma en el mundo, pues el mundo ya habría cambiado, porque realmente se toma mucha ayahuasca. Cuando yo, el principio de los años 2000 en Europa, era muy raro escuchar de eso no? Hoy en día, en cualquier país europeo, todos los fines de semana tú puedes encontrar una ceremonia de ayahuasca, en todas partes. Eso se ha expandido. Se ha normalizado. Ya es mainstream, ya se volvió mainstream. Pero qué se ha vuelto mainstream? Nuestra propia interpretación, que es bastante problemática sobre esto y no se le ha dado el lugar que le [00:12:00] corresponde a los guardianes de esos conocimientos. Entonces eso es lo que yo tengo para criticar en todo este tema de la revolución psicodélica, que hablamos de psicodélico psicodélico, psicodélico, como la panacea, lo que puede salvar el mundo, pero cuánta experiencia tiene nuestra sociedad con los psicodélicos?Dos generaciones? Máximo? Desde Hoffman, y esa, ya de la generación Beat, de los 50. Vale?, un poco eso. Y entonces, hoy día, tú tienes psychodelic studies en las universidades y formación de terapias con psicodélicos que los enseñan en institutos, de estudios bastante importantes. Y uno se pregunta, pero qué estudia?Qué les enseñan? Qué podemos haber acumulado como conocimiento en esas dos generaciones, siendo que durante más o menos 40 años, esto ha sido o 50 o 60 años. Esto ha sido prohibido. Era [00:13:00] ilegal. Hoy en día se está más o menos legalizando, entonces se puede estudiar más abiertamente, se puede investigar, se puede aprender, se puede experimentar mucho más, pero durante muchos años, era ilegal, era underground, subterráneo, verdad? Entonces, qué es lo que hemos podido acumular como el conocimiento? Es mínimo, es muy superficial, sobre todo si lo comparas con lo que saben allá en la selva, los indígenas en México, los Wixarika allá donde, por donde tu estás, los mazatecos y toda esa gente que tiene conocimiento de los hongos.Eso es una acumulación, de conocimiento extraordinaria. Lo que pasa es que, como son indios, no les damos el lugar. Qué me va, si tú tienes un doctorado en cualquier universidad del mundo y te sienta junto con indios, adentro de uno tiene esa terrible arrogancia que tenemos [00:14:00] los occidentales de decir, si yo soy un doctor, qué me va a enseñar un indio?Entiendes? Y eso, eso demuestra que aún por más que tratamos de idealizar y por más que hay un gran respeto, y algo que esté cambiando, todavía seguimos regidos por un profundo racismo. Un profundo complejo de superioridad, que creo yo, que está la base de los grandes problemas que tenemos hoy en día como humanidad es realmente la arrogancia y el complejo de superioridad que tenemos como miembros de esta civilización, que es extraordinaria, pero también es la que nos está llevando el hecatombe verdad? Es la que está destruyendo el mundo.Entonces, hay verdades muy incómodas que no queremos ver pero es la verdad, a pesar de toda la grandeza que hemos logrado con este, con los conocimientos de nuestra ciencia, es también nuestra misma ciencia la que está destruyendo [00:15:00] el mundo, nuestra manera de entender y de conocer el mundo. Entonces ahora, poco a poco, nos estamos dando cuenta que necesitamos de la participación de estos otros pueblos que tienen otras maneras de ver, de entender, de estar en el mundo, y de conocer, de aprender otras maneras, no? Entonces sucede una cosa muy bonita y extraordinaria cuando juntamos personas que piensan diferente y realmente ya no es una discusión sobre cuál es mejor, cuál sistema es mejor, si mi ciencia o tu ciencia o no, sino que es como complementamos nuestros tipos de conocimiento, verdad? Lo que decíamos también, o sea, a partir de nuestras diferencias, con nuestras diferencias como material, que es lo que podemos tejer juntos, que no se ha hecho nunca, verdad? Entonces, eso es lo que está surgiendo también, pero en un contexto muy [00:16:00] problemático en lo que surgen los intereses económicos, financieros, grandes farmacéutica, grandes capitales que quieren invertir en estas cosas y no se les da el lugar a los grandes detentores de estos conocimientos. Y sobretodo no se les da lugar en el diálogo, ni en la creación de acuerdos, sino que no se le da una participación financiera de lo que se puede recaudar como beneficios a partir de sus conocimientos, verdad? Entonces seguimos reproduciendo ese sistema colonial, ese sistema de explotación del otro y de la tierra, de la naturaleza en beneficio del capital, en beneficio para generar, ingresos económicos, no? Entonces estamos en eso es, es altamente complejo. [00:17:00] Hay cosas buenas y hay cosas negativas. Hay un impacto muy grande también en la Amazonía con toda la llegada de toda esta gente, pero impactos positivos. Yo, yo he encontrado muchos líderes, en Amazonía que me dicen "gracias a ustedes que vienen acá. Nosotros estamos volviendo a nuestras raíces", "Si no fuera por ustedes, ya estaríamos perdidos." Entonces hay algo que está sucediendo, que es algo muy positivo, pero también, como venimos con esos programas, no logramos darle la profundidad que podríamos estar alcanzando. Y que nuevamente, creo yo, que lo que está la base es nuestro terrible complejo de superioridad, que creemos que todos lo sabemos y que, pues somos mejores y que, qué nos va a enseñar, me entiendes? Aunque algo esté cambiando, aunque haya un poco de esperanza, todavía hay mucho camino por delante, [00:18:00] no?Chris: Mm. gracias Claude poder sacar algunos de esos hilos del nudo enorme en que vivimos. Pues sí, yo siento que, una de las cosas menos escuchados en nuestros tiempos de gente que tiene comentarios, opiniones, lo que sea, es, pues "no sé la verdad, no sé" . O sea, hay una una falta enorme de humildad.Creo que de la gente que critica la revolución o renacimiento psicodélico, o la gente que celebra no? O sea, hay una gran falta de humildad igual de tiempo profundo o de conocimiento histórico podemos decir, y como mencionaste, la cuestión de los abuelos y las relaciones que la gente tiene, o sea, las Amazonas y los pueblos indígenas ya por miles y miles de [00:19:00] años con sus lugares.Y como poco a poco se profundizaron su propio lugar dentro de los otros seres en su ecología, en su ecosistema, sus ecosistemas, y que, ese idea de que alguien puede irse a un lugar así. tomar la medicina como es una pastilla nada más volverse o simplemente quedarse y decir que "ah me curó" o algo Pues eso, eso me suena como bastante fascinante, no? Y porque, para mí al final también tiene que ver con la relacion con los ancianos o sabios de un lugar o sea, el maestro mío me dijo una vez que son los jóvenes que hacen ancianos, que hacen sabios que hacen como elders no? No son los viejos.O sea, los viejos son el vehículo para la función de esa sabiduría. Pero son los jóvenes que tienen que preguntar y [00:20:00] eso. Parece que está muy, muy perdido en el mundo occidental. O sea más bien la gente urbana, la gente del norte, la gran mayoría son migrantes o familias de inmigrantes.Entonces, yo siento que la relación que tenemos con la medicina, que es solo medicina, es una pastilla o aunque sí, es un ser que no, como dijiste, como no tenemos a veces la capacidad de entender, el lugar del abuelo, abuela humana en esa relación, pues hay muchas, muchas direcciones que podemos ir en ese sentido, pero también lo que he visto, lo que he escuchado, he leído un poco es sobre la deforestación de las medicinas, las plantas sagradas, y que la gente va [00:21:00] domesticando poco a poco las plantas y que las plantas domesticadas no tienen la misma fuerza, en parte porque están cosechadas o cosechados más y más joven, más y más antes de su maduración, y que eso también quizás tiene algo que ver con nuestra contexto del occidente como la necesidad o rapidez o velocidad en que necesitamos conseguir y consumir la medicina y ser curado, etcétera. Entonces entiendo que también has estado trabajando por algunas organizaciones que trabajan específicamente en la conservación de las medicinas, y también, otras que trabajan en la educación e investigaciones sobre lo etnobotánico. Entonces, me gustaría preguntarte sobre y ICEERS y MSCF tiene [00:22:00] un, una perspectiva fija o quizás como desde tu perspectiva, cómo vamos en ese camino?Claude: Mira, esa es una problemática, que corresponde a ese mismo sistema, no? O sea, en otras palabras, por ejemplo, cuando surgió este fondo, esta fundación, que es el fondo para la conservación de las medicinas indígenas o INC por sus en inglés. La primera inquietud que surgió, o sea el primer impulso y el primer, el primer capital semilla para para lanzar esto era exactamente esa idea no? Estas medicinas se están expandiendo, más y más personas lo van a necesitar, lo van a usar. Entonces va a haber un impacto en la sostenibilidad de estas plantas.Se va a poner en riesgo su continuidad, verdad? Cuando a mí me propusieron a [00:23:00] trabajar en esto y ayudar a la creación de este fondo, y me lo pusieron en esos términos, mi respuesta fue negativa. Yo dije no tengo el menor interés en trabajar en eso. Porque, o sea, en otras palabras, es ¿Cómo hacemos para garantizar la demanda?Cómo hacemos para para que tengamos suficiente, vamos a hacer plantaciones de peyote y plantaciones de ayahuasca para que no se acabe, para que alcance para todas las personas en el mundo que lo van a necesitar. Y yo dije no tengo el menor interés en hacer eso. Además, no creo que ese sea el real problema.Dije ahora si se tratase de la conservación de los conocimientos, estamos hablando de otra cosa. Eso es lo realmente precioso que debemos poner todo nuestros esfuerzos [00:24:00] para que exista una continuidad, para que no desaparezca como está desapareciendo, desaparece. Cada vez que se muere un abuelo y se han muerto muchos últimamente, sobre todo con el COVID, se han muerto muchos abuelos, pues se pierde, se pierde, o sea, es una tragedia para la humanidad entera, que se muera un abuelo que no tuvo la posibilidad de transmitirle a uno, a dos, a tres de sus hijos, a sus nietos, ese conocimiento, que no haya nadie que vaya a saber lo que sabe él, pues es una tragedia para todos nosotros.Entonces, cuando estamos pensando en cómo vamos a hacer? Se va a acabar la ayahuasca, o hay plantaciones, si no es lo mismo, es una inquietud válida, evidentemente, dentro nuestra lógica. Pero olvidamos que lo principal es la conservación de estos conocimientos. Entonces, tanto [00:25:00] MSC como ICEERS se está enfocando cada vez más en un trabajo profundo de desarrollar relaciones, cultivar relaciones con estos abuelos detentores de conocimientos, con estas comunidades que aún practican, mantiene sus sistemas, verdad? Y trabajando con ellos, digamos para ellos, para con programas, y con proyectos, y procesos que son diseñados por ellos, guiados por ellos, y nosotros solamente nos dedicamos a dar, un apoyo técnico y financiero, no? Para garantizar esto, entonces, al hacer esto, al dedicarlos más a la conservación de estos conocimientos, nos damos cuenta que la cultura no puede sobrevivir sin el [00:26:00] territorio.El conocimiento de los abuelos no tiene sentido sin un territorio, verdad? Y cuando hablamos de la conservación de la Amazonía, tampoco podemos entender la conservación de los ecosistemas sin la conservación de las culturas que han vivido ahí durante miles de años. O sea, todo va de la par, todo va de la mano, no?Entonces con una visión mucho más holistica, digamos más amplia. Pues entendemos eso, que cuidando de la cultura y poniendo todos los esfuerzos necesarios para la continuidad de esas culturas también estamos cuidando a la Amazonía, cuidando la biodiversidad, cuidando el agua, cuidando las medicinas, cuidando todo.Entiendes? Ya existen en Brasil enormes plantaciones de ayahuasca, de chacruna. Encuentras plantaciones en diferentes partes del mundo, [00:27:00] en Hawaii, y en Costa Rica, y en diferentes lugares. Ya la gente ha ido a sembrar hace años. Entonces, hay, no, eso no va a faltar. Lo que sí no vanos faltar, nos estamos quedando huérfanos de esos conocimientos.Y eso sí que es una gran pérdida porque yo tengo la certeza, la convicción que en esos, en esos conocimientos están las llaves, las respuestas que nos pueden ayudar a resolver los grandes desafíos que tiene la humanidad hoy en día. Desde nuestra ciencia no vamos a resolver, estamos, estamos en una crisis civilizatoria, estamos en una crisis global, y lo único que nos dicen los científicos es que tenemos que reducir las emisiones de gases de efecto invernadero.Y ahí van 20 años o más tratando de hacer eso, y no lo consiguen. No [00:28:00] solamente es insuficiente pensarlo de esa manera tan reduccionista, sino que, igualmente están acatandose a una sola cosa y no lo consiguen, no hemos logrado nada, no? Lo que realmente necesitamos es un cambio de sentido, un cambio entender una profundidad mucho mayor de cuál es nuestra relación como especie con este planeta.Y para eso necesitamos los entendimientos de lo más extraordinario que ha guardado la humanidad hasta hoy, no solamente de la civilización occidental, sino de todos, no? Entonces, cada vez que se pierde una lengua, cada vez que se muere un abuelo sabedor es una tragedia para toda la humanidad.Entonces, está muy bien que utilicemos estas medicinas, está muy bien que se esté expandiendo estas prácticas, pero esto sirve, [00:29:00] como un proceso inicial, como abrir una ventana hacia un mundo de posibilidades. Entonces, a mí me gusta que haya gente dando ayahuasca en Estados Unidos, en Europa.Me gusta porque mucha gente tiene la experiencia y dice "wow, en verdad si hay algo más. En verdad, aquí hay todo un mundo que yo no tenía idea que existía y que podría leer millones de cosas, y puedo creer o no creer, pero teniendo la experiencia, ya no necesito creer. Yo sé que hay algo. Sé que la naturaleza está viva. Sé que la naturaleza habla, sé que hay manera de comunicarse con la sutileza del funcionamiento de este planeta, de las aguas, de los ríos, de los vientos de las montañas. Todo es un sistema que está vivo, y hay manera de comunicarse con eso y mantenerse en una profunda relación, simbiótica, de profundo respeto y de amor con todo esto no? Entonces, es [00:30:00] importante que muchas personas tengan ese tipo de experiencia, pero después qué? Después de esa experiencia qué? Volvemos a nuestra vida normal, a nuestro trabajo de siempre, a la dificultad de nuestras relaciones cotidianas y el drama de la imposibilidad de mantener una conexión profunda con el tejido de la vida.Todo de nuestra civilización está hecho para mantenernos desconectados de la vida, del funcionamiento de la vida en este planeta, verdad? Entonces, hacia eso es lo que tenemos que apuntar, porque el problema no son las emisiones de gases de efecto invernadero, el problema es nuestra relación con el mundo.No es las historias que nos hacen creer que el mundo es una fuente de recursos para extraer, transformar y generar riqueza. Esa historia es profundamente [00:31:00] problemática. Y cuando conversamos con los sabios, con los abuelos, con los indígenas, escuchamos esas historias. Nos damos cuenta. Wow. Estas historias necesitan ser escuchadas.Estas historias necesitan, necesitan ser contadas en diferentes espacios. Y estos abuelos, estos sabios necesitan ocupar el lugar que les corresponde en la mesa de negociaciones de la humanidad. No se trata de conservar esto como algo folclórico, como un derecho de estos pobrecitos pueblos que tienen el derecho de vivir, como siempre vivieron, como quieran vivir. No, se trata de nuestra sobrevivencia.Entonces, hacia eso, creo yo, que debemos estar apuntando y sobre todo el tema de la revolución del renacimiento psicodélico yo creo que es una punta de lanza. Es una primera entrada en el que vamos poco a poco, demostrando que no se trata [00:32:00] solamente de convencer así retóricamente, sino que hay que demostrar, con hechos, la pertinencia, la utilidad de estos conocimientos para hoy para el mundo de hoy, verdad?Entonces, el tema de la salud y el tema de la salud mental es como es una problemática gigantesca, no? Enorme, hiper compleja. Es la primera cosa que, más y más científicos y gente que decide se está dando cuenta. "Uy, aquí esta gente sabe algo que nosotros no sabemos y tiene una manera de saber y entender el funcionamiento de la mente y el espíritu humano que nosotros no tenemos idea y que realmente funciona."Entonces eso es como una primera parte, como una punta de lanza. Estamos entrando en un lugar para poder demostrar al mundo. "Oye, lo que saben estos [00:33:00] pueblos es importante no solamente para ellos, no solamente para la continuidad de sus culturas, de sus tradiciones, no solamente para la salvaguarda de la selva Amazónica sino para toda la humanidad." Verdad? Y es muy triste ver en nuestros países, en Colombia. Bueno, Colombia hay otro nivel de entendimiento mucho más maduro, sobre lo indígena. Creo que están mucho más avanzados en ese sentido, pero en Brasil, en Perú, en Ecuador, en México, no le estamos dando la importancia que merece a esta problemática, o sea al rescate de lo poco que ha sobrevivido esos conocimientos extraordinarios que se mantienen en las selvas, en los desiertos, en las montañas, que se han ido guardando en secreto hasta hoy, o sea es heroico que haya [00:34:00] sobrevivido hasta hoy. Y hoy en día nos estamos dando cuenta de la pertinencia y la importancia de todo eso.Entonces, cuando hablamos de conservación, estamos hablando de conservación biocultural. Entender que no se puede preservar una cultura sin preservar la totalidad de su territorio, sin derechos de esos pueblos sobre sus territorios, y no se puede preservar los ecosistemas y los derechos si no se hace todos los esfuerzos para preservar esas culturas que han vivido en profundo respeto, en simbiosis con esos ecosistemas.Y tenemos muchísimo que aprender. Todo este tema de la cooperación internacional, de las ayudas de las ONGs, de los proyectos de los pueblos indígenas es de un paternalismo triste y absurdo que en el fondo dice "ay pobrecitos los indios vamos a ayudarlos", vamos a ayudarlos a qué? Vamos a ayudarlos a que sean más como nosotros.Eso es lo que estamos haciendo, creyendo que [00:35:00] somos lo mejor. Pero entonces más y más estamos entendiendo que es es mucho más lo que nosotros podemos aprender de ellos, que ellos transformarse en nosotros. Tenemos que re indigenizarnos, sabes?. Tenemos que volver a ciertas raíces que nos permitan una profunda conexión con la vida, con la naturaleza, con todos los seres que viven en nuestro territorio.Y eso es lo que en la misma naturaleza, la misma tierra nos está indicando, nos está llamando. O sea, si siguen así de desconectados, los vamos a exterminar. Tienen que re conectarse con eso, entonces ahí yo creo que hay una, algo nuevo que está surgiendo, que es maravilloso, verdad? Y espero yo que eso llegue a más y más personas.Estamos trabajando duro para eso la [00:36:00] verdad. Chris: Mm, pues muchísimas gracias por esos trabajos Claude. Y por tener la capacidad de afilar el cuchillo, en estos tiempos y en nuestra conversación, para sacar la grasa, digamos, como digamos. Yo siento que es, es un trabajo muy fuerte, no? O sea, para mí, eso es el fin de turismo, la capacidad de parar, de ver al mundo como algo que existe sólo por tus gustos. Algo que existe en un sentido temporal, es decir desechable. Pero eso va a durar como un montón de trabajo en el sentido de recordar, de recordar que en algún momento sus antepasados, los urbanos, los del norte, etcétera, fueron indígenas. Pero qué pasó? Qué ha pasado? Qué rompió [00:37:00] esa relación con la tierra? Y eso, eso es un trabajo muy, muy fuerte y obviamente generacional y intergeneracional, entonces. Pues hay mucho más que podemos hablar y ojalá que tenemos la oportunidad en algún momento, pero quería agradecerte por la parte de mí, por la parte del podcast y los escuchantes. Y al final quería preguntarte, y para nuestros oyentes, si hay una manera de seguir a tu trabajo o contactarte, si estás dispuesto a eso, cómo se pueden conocer lo de ICEERS y MSC? Claude: Bueno, tienes, el trabajo de MSC es muy importante. Y pues, si necesitamos a más gente que se sume, que done. Necesitamos canalizar muchos [00:38:00] recursos para poder hacer estas cosas bien, verdad? Con pocos recursos estamos haciendo cosas increíbles, pero ya estamos viendo que, ya llegamos a niveles en los que podemos administrar mucho mayores recursos. Entonces, si la gente se siente inspirada y pueden entrar a la página web de MSC o ICEERS, y MSC fund FND, ver lo que estamos haciendo, los diferentes proyectos que tenemos ahí y se sientan inspirados para donar o conseguir recursos, pues, genial. ICEERS también hace un trabajo extraordinario en la creación de conocimientos, artículos científicos y defensa legal también de estos detentores, de estas medicinas. Trabajo con incidencia política con gente que decide en el mundo. [00:39:00] Entonces estamos luchando ahí por los derechos de los pueblos indígenas, por el derecho del uso de estas medicinas que en muchos lugares son ilegales, y también sobre todo, decir a la gente que más que ir a la selva, o tomar ayahuasca cerca de sus lugares, muchas veces ahí cerca también tienen una reserva, algunos abuelos, pueblos indígenas que están cerca de ustedes, no? En sus países, cerca de sus ciudades. Y pues es tiempo de reconectar, y es muy difícil, pero la verdad que vale la pena, ir, ver lo que necesitan, cómo podemos ayudar, cómo podemos colaborar, simplemente con esa presencia, con otro tipo de encuentro, y cultivar esas relaciones de amistad, es algo, es algo muy importante que podemos hacer hoy en día, y que, [00:40:00] pues la tierra nos está pidiendo a gritos que nos re conectemos. Y ahí están los abuelos, todavía hay abuelos que, como dices tú, solamente esperan que vengan los jóvenes a preguntar no? Y muchas veces cuando no son los propios jóvenes de sus comunidades, pues están muy felices cuando viene gente de afuera de otros lugares, con esas preguntas, porque los ayaban a practicar, los ayudan a compartir, pero también inspiran a los jóvenes de su comunidad a sentarse con los abuelos.Creo que es un tiempo en el que es muy importante volver a sentarse con los abuelos, y los abuelos están ahí y están necesitando mucho de nosotros. Entonces, hagámoslo.Chris: Oye, gracias, hermano. Voy a asegurar que esos enlaces están en la página de El Fin del Turismo cuando lance el episodio. Y [00:41:00] pues, desde el norte hacia el sur te mando un gran abrazo. Y gracias por tu tiempo hoy, por tu trabajo y por tus compromisos Claude. Claude: Un placer, Chris, gracias a ti. Gracias por lo que estás haciendo. Saludos.English TranscriptionChris: [00:00:00] Welcome Claude, to the podcast The End of Tourism.Claude: Chris. Thank you very much.Chris: I was wondering if you could explain a little bit about where you are today and how the world appears to you?Claude: Good question. I am, right now I am in Rio de Janeiro, where I live. I am Peruvian and I also studied anthropology and I dedicate a lot of my time to indigenous peoples, especially in Brazil, Colombia and Peru and I have been working in the Amazon for many years. And as I see the world today, from here, well, with a lot of concern, obviously, but also because of what I do with some hope,Chris: Yeah, and in that matter of what you do and what we talked about before, it seems like it's a great path, a path of [00:01:00] decades and decades. And I would like, if we could see a little more of that path. Could you comment a little on how you got to this great moment, be it through your travels, to other countries, to other worlds, to other teachers.Claude: Yes, of course, let me explain. I've been working with indigenous people in general for about 20 years, but especially with the topic of spirituality, master plants like ayahuasca and those things, and I got there like, I think, like most people who go to the jungle today, or to look for these medicines, as they are called, which is a certain or deep dissatisfaction with our own culture, with the existential response that our own society [00:02:00] can give us, I would say.It's like there's always a question that one asks oneself, "Doesn't there have to be something more? It can't just be that." That proposal, let's say from the West, can't just be that, there has to be something more, right? So that led me on a search since, I don't know when I was around twenty, twenty-something years old.What led me to experiment with these medicines like ayahuasca, San Pedro, mushrooms, not for a playful or evasive reason, but on the contrary, with a curiosity for other ways of knowing and understanding. So I approached these medicines, with curiosity to understand how indigenous peoples know what they know. What is the origin of their [00:03:00] knowledge at the moment, right?So, I studied anthropology. I quickly moved away from academia because I found it much more interesting what my grandparents taught me, who for anthropology were my informants, right? It was like, I had to have my informant, this informant. And I realized that no, they were not my informants, but they were teachers and I learned much more from them than what I was taught in books, or in classes, or in seminars, right?So I decided to dedicate myself more to following them and to continue learning with them, and to see how I could help them. These grandparents, these wise indigenous people. And that led me to a wonderful path that today I call "the bridge people," right? In other words, people who are in that place of interface, between the knowledge, the wisdom that remains to us from the indigenous peoples [00:04:00] and the Western world, the modern world.And in this new type of encounter that has been emerging for a decade or maybe two decades. It is this new type of encounter of our worlds, right? That until today was, had always been extremely problematic, if not murderous, right? The way our Western world met the indigenous worlds was destructive. Today we find ourselves in a different way, in which many young people and adults and people from the global north come in search of knowledge, wisdom, cure, healing, alternatives, looking for answers that our own civilization cannot give us. There is a hunger, a thirst for meaning for something greater, so many people begin to go there with different eyes, with a [00:05:00] respect that I don't think had existed before. And that brings positive things and negative things, obviously.It seems that we are wrong. There is a great curse, that, like everything that the West touches, it eventually turns into a great disaster. It seems like something super nice, super wonderful, illusory, it makes us fall in love, it seduces us, but after a short time we begin to realize the terrible consequences that we bring, right?But something, I don't know, something is also changing, something is shifting. There is a certain maturity on both sides, both on the indigenous side and on the non-indigenous side, to meet from a place where we can celebrate our differences and understand that those differences are material for the construction of a new time , right?So that's the part that brings me a little bit of hope.Chris: Yeah, that's nice. Thank you, Claude. I mean, I feel [00:06:00] a lot of hope, but also despair for someone who has visited several indigenous peoples in the Amazon for about 15 years now, during which time these medicines were gradually reaching the collective mentality of the West.And it has helped me a lot, not only for spiritual reasons, but also for repairing the damage I did to my body, for example, but also getting into those circles, in the Amazon, for example, but also my native land Toronto, Canada and other parts Oaxaca, Mexico. We have seen little by little the neglect of indigenous wisdom, indigenous cultures, medicines, and more than anything, the contradictions that [00:07:00] appear within the "psychedelic renaissance." So, you have been in those for a long time, not only regarding medicine, but also in indigenous cultures in the Amazon. I would like to ask you what you have seen there in the sense of contradictions, about tourism regarding medicine, it can be the side of foreigners coming to heal themselves, or maybe the locals or indigenous people taking advantage of the moment.Claude: All cultures have contradictions. And the main contradiction is between what is said, right? What is professed and what one sees in practice, right? It's like going to church and listening to the pastor talking about what a good Christian should be like.And then you walk around, I don't know, Chicago or Mexico City, and you see what [00:08:00] Christians are like and you say, wow, there's a huge contradiction, right? The contradiction is terrible. When we talk about indigenous peoples and knowledge, indigenous peoples, indigenous wisdom, it seems like we're speaking from a place of idealization, right?And I would not like to fall into that idealization but rather try to be very concrete. One thing is reality, which is truly terrible. We live in a time that is the peak, it is the continuation of a process of colonialism, of extermination that was not something that happened with the arrival of the Spanish, and the Portuguese and the time of the conquest. And it was not something that happened.It's something that keeps happening, . It's something that [00:09:00] It keeps happening. As the great Aílton Krenak, a great indigenous leader from here in Brazil, and an intellectual , member of the Brazilian Academy of Letters, recently said, what you don't understand is that your world is still at war with our world.He said that . He says that, in other words, you don't understand that the Western world, the modern world, continues at war and making every effort to make indigenous cultures disappear.I mean, in practice, that's what we're doing. So, when I talk about hope, I'm talking about it because there's something that's emerging, that's new, but it's really very small. And as you say, when, I mean, the expansion of ayahuasca, of San Pedro, of peyote and of a certain [00:10:00] Respect and a certain understanding of the importance of indigenous knowledge , we still don't really understand that, we don't understand. And when we talk from the global north, and what is called the psychedelic renaissance, when they talk about indigenous peoples, there is an idealization, above all, it is only part of a discourse that is a bit " woke. "It's a bit of a way of making your speech pretty, but in practice it's not visible, no, no, it doesn't occupy an important place. The path that this psychedelic revolution is going to follow is already designed, it is to extract the active principles from plants, to make medicines, to make a pill that will help people stay in better shape within the madness that the West proposes.How we give to people [00:11:00] tools to adapt and to resist , that's the absurdity we're subjecting them to , that 's really it. I mean, we need drugs like Brave New World now , not Soma. Are you feeling depressed? Take your pills . You're questioning things too much , take this so you can keep functioning and operating and producing, right?But one thing is very, very clear to me, and that is that we have not yet managed to understand the magnitude of indigenous knowledge. And I say knowledge, not beliefs, because in general, when we talk about indigenous peoples, what a shaman, as they call him, a healer, knows, or what they talk about regarding their spirituality, people think, "ah, those are their beliefs." And in the best of cases, they say, "oh, how nice, we have to respect it, we have to take care of their rights, and they have cultural rights and they have every right to believe in what they believe." But when we say beliefs, it is also a misunderstanding because it has very little of belief in reality.When one studies more, and when one goes deeper into what a healer, an ayahuasca, Shipibo, Ashaninka, Huni Kuin, Karipuna, Noke Koi Kofan, knows how to do, what they know, it has nothing to do with beliefs. It has nothing to do with the religious worship of certain deities. Nothing to do with it. We are talking about deeply practical knowledge, right?It is an accumulation of knowledge over generations and generations by scholars of the jungle, who organize this [00:13:00] knowledge. Socially and also transmitted with a method. There is a very strict, very specific method of transmitting this knowledge and these ways of knowing, so I just gave you a definition not of a religion. I just gave you a definition of science.So what we haven't really understood until now is that the little bit of that knowledge that has survived to this day is much more like a science than a religion. It's much more practical knowledge than a religious belief, right? And in that sense, it's of the utmost importance. And so, when we have more and more people having this experience, what happens?Many people come to the jungle in Iquitos, I have worked for many years, for years I have been like the main center where I have received many people to [00:14:00] take ayahuasca and those things, and people come to heal themselves of things that in their countries, well, no, no one can heal them of depression, trauma, physical things too, but above all psychological things, right?And then they come back and say, "Oh, I took ayahuasca and I was cured." "How did you get cured?" "Oh, I went, I took ayahuasca," but nobody says, "I was drinking with an old man who sang to me every night for half an hour. And then he would come in the morning and ask me what my dreams were like. And then he would come with other medicines and he would give me baths. And when he would give me baths, he would sing to me again. And then he would give me this, and he would give me this medicine and sing to me, and when he would sing to me, he would make me see this kind of... Nobody talks about it. People say, "I took ayahuasca and the ayahuasca cured me," but the old man who was singing just seems like an accessory to an old man singing.But that is not the case.Claude: [00:00:00] Most people say, "Wow, how did you heal from that? What happened? What did you do?"Ah, I already took ayahuasca. Ayahuasca cured me."True? I've actually heard very few people say, "Grandpa, Grandma gave me ayahuasca, but he sang to me for hours, gave me baths, asked me about my dreams, adapted all the plants and the treatment he was doing to my dreams, to what he was seeing. When he sang to me, he guided me to see things, or not see things."It seems as if the old man who sang was an accessory, a decoration. And no, really, we don't give credit to the deep work they do, and the knowledge they put into practice. And it's not strange because it's very difficult to understand how a person singing is going to heal me with a song, right?No, for us, it's very difficult, it doesn't make sense. [00:01:00] It has to be the substance that you took that got into your brain and made some neurological connections. I don't know. It can't be that thing, because for us, it would be magical thinking, right?But as I say, what we call magical thinking is not magical thinking for them. It is a very concrete knowledge that is learned and has learning methods. It is knowledge and skills and abilities that are acquired through transmission methods, right? And up to now we have not really managed to give it the place it deserves.On the contrary, we are impacting this in very profound ways, and there is a fundamental contradiction that I see in this, in going back to the question you asked me. In all this tourism that has arrived, and [00:02:00] this fascination, this interest. What are the impacts that this has had on indigenous communities in the indigenous world, right?So I think there are two things that seem to be a bit contradictory. On the one hand, there is a great blessing. Twenty years ago, you didn't see people our age, young people interested in sitting with their grandparents and really learning, and continuing those traditions and cultivating that kind of knowledge.Most people our age, a little older, up to our age, people who are 50, 55, 60 years old today, didn't want to do anything, no. They wanted to be bilingual intercultural teachers, they wanted to be [00:03:00] professionals, to belong to the white world, right? So, the old people were from a bygone era that was destined to become extinct.So, with the arrival of the Westerners and with this interest in these things, there has been a certain renaissance and above all, a real interest among the youth to learn these things as a professional alternative, let's say. Let's say, hey, why should I be a lawyer? If I, if you look at all the gringos that are coming, I can be this and I'll do better, right?So, on the one hand, there is this part that, today we see, for example, in the Shipibo, a lot of people who are learning, right? Many young people are interested, not only in the Shipibo, but in many places in Brazil, in Colombia, in Ecuador, I see, I see that, a youth that is little by little becoming more interested and [00:04:00] returning to their own roots.It's like, how to say, since you're a kid, they always tell you, "The ancients were crap, that world is over, the only thing that matters is modernity and integrating into urban life, into the official life of this civilization, going to church, having a career, and being someone in life," right?And then it was like, and the states with policies of that nature, the governments, the states of our countries, it was, well, the indigenous question was how do we civilize the Indians. Civilizing the Indian is nothing other than making them forget their systems, their cultures, but as a part of how I say, " woke, " not like," Oh, how nice the Indians are that they keep their dances, that they keep their folklore, that they keep [00:05:00] their clothes and that they keep certain things that are kind of nice, that they keep as something picturesque and somewhat folkloric, " but without really understanding the depth.But today, I think that to a large extent, thanks to this, not only is it a more complex thing, obviously, but, the youth, seeing that there is this arrival of whites , of foreigners, of gringos, right? Very interested in the knowledge of their grandparents, in medicine. And they go and are there, they say " oh, there must be something interesting here, I also want to learn. " If gringos like this, it's because there must be something good, you know? We got to that point where it was meant to disappear, but one way or another, there's a rebirth, right? At the same time, [00:06:00] In the transmission of this knowledge, as I was saying, it is extremely complex, extremely strict, strict methods of transmission, so it has had to be simplified because young people are no longer capable, having gone to school, having one foot in the city. No, they are not as capable, nor do they have the interest, nor the conditions, nor the aptitudes to really enter into these processes as the grandparents could have done, who today are 70, 80 years old, right , who were really the last . Unless you go very far into the jungle where there are places where there is not much contact, they still have to maintain some things, but they are also far from these circuits,But then, yes, there is a great simplification of these systems. So many things are lost. For better or worse, right? Many people say, well, at least this whole part of witchcraft and [00:07:00] shamanic attacks and all that stuff is being lost, but to which a lot, a lot of importance is given that we also fail to understand, because we see it with that Judeo-Christian vision, that Manichean distinction of good and evil, which in the indigenous worlds does not just not exist, but is totally different, right? And that is part of those differences that are important to understand and respect, right? So, all this part that we see as witchcraft, as diabolical and such, has its function within a system, and that no, trying to make it disappear is to make the system itself disappear, right?Because we don't understand it. It's the same thing that happens, it's what has always happened, something that scandalizes us, so we want to change it, but it scandalizes us from our own worldview and we are not understanding it from the vision of [00:08:00] They do not. It does not mean that everything can be put into perspective, right? There are things that are very difficult, no, and very delicate, but in general, when there is something that scandalizes us, we want to change it, without really going into an understanding of the function of those things, because we are following the same patterns as the priests who arrived 400, 500 years ago. They said, "Oh, this is diabolical. We have to eradicate these things, right?" So we continue doing that. So, on the one hand, we see that there is a rebirth of interest among the youth and a reconnection with their own identity, while at the same time there is a somewhat dangerous simplification of these systems, meaning that the young people who will soon be grandparents do not know half of what their grandparents knew. They know the bare minimum that is needed to give the gringo what he requires, what he needs, what he is looking for, enough to actually do business, and that is not to blame them, but it is part of the system in which we are navigating, because everything works like that.Why are you going to go so deep if this minimum is enough? Especially when we see that many gringos, many foreigners, take ayahuasca a few times or go on a diet, and then they take ayahuasca back to their countries, put on the feathers, grab their little guitar, and start singing these things as decoration around this experience and make a lot of money.And so ayahuasca has been expanding throughout the world, right? And that serves its purpose too. Not to judge, but [00:10:00] there is also, it is a superficiality, many times, hurtful, when you see what a grandfather knows and what he has had to go through, the difficulties, the tests and the responsibilities that an
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