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Today we speak with Chantal Noa Forbes, PhD from the Ecology, Spirituality, and Religion Department at CIIS. Chantal talks about her roots growing up in South Africa and how attending film school led her to explore the intersection between ecology and religion, which emerged from a growing concern regarding the environmental crisis and the state of the world religions. Chantal discusses her transdisciplinary approaches to activism through the environmental humanities. She confronts epistemological challenges born from western categorizations of knowledge, such as differences between spirituality, religion, ecology, and anthropology. We discuss her dissertation on the San Bushman of South Africa, titled “The Primal Metaphysics of Becoming-Animal During the Chasing Hunt in the Kalahari Desert,” which grapples with these epistemological challenges by utilizing a synthetic framework that draws upon structural and poststructural approaches to the exploration of ontogenetic fluidity, liminality, and multi-species subjectivities of San Bushman cosmology. Chantal shares how her research led her to articulate the novel concepts of eco-exegesis and a vision of primal metaphysics and religion. We discuss challenges working at the intersection of western academics and non-western indigenous ways of knowing. Chantal also sheds light on the importance of the scholar-activist model and how, through decolonial scholarship, one can move beyond mere interdisciplinary dialogue to more actively engage marginalized philosophical, religious, and indigenous perspectives. Chantal is a comparative cultural and religious studies scholar at the intersection of ecology and culture. Her current academic interests explore metaphysical expressions of ontological ambiguity from a multispecies and transspecies perspective of personhood. In 2021 Chantal graduated with a Ph.D. in Philosophy of Religion from the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) with a concentration in Ecology, Spirituality, and Religion. Using ethnographic and filmographic materials, her research inquiry undertook a metaphysical narrative-based analysis of Indigenous and decolonial approaches to environmental engagement, focused on the ontological ambiguity of human-animal relationships in hunter-gatherer cosmology in southern Africa. South African born and raised, her professional background spans twenty years of experience in educational film and media, communications, and business development relations. Chantal is also the co-founder of the educational non-profit, the Deep-Water Initiative. She received a B.A. in film production from the internationally award-winning film school AFDA in South Africa and an M.A. in Middle Eastern History from Tel-Aviv University, where I studied the evolution of modern media in the Middle East. Chantal's Webpage • Deep Water Initiative East-West Psychology Podcast Website Connect with EWP: Website • Youtube • Facebook Music at the end of the episode are Canto 8: Sacrifice/Canto 9: Liberation, from the album Experiments of Truth, by Kayos Theory, released on Monsoon-Music Record Label Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network
Today we speak with Chantal Noa Forbes, PhD from the Ecology, Spirituality, and Religion Department at CIIS. Chantal talks about her roots growing up in South Africa and how attending film school led her to explore the intersection between ecology and religion, which emerged from a growing concern regarding the environmental crisis and the state of the world religions. Chantal discusses her transdisciplinary approaches to activism through the environmental humanities. She confronts epistemological challenges born from western categorizations of knowledge, such as differences between spirituality, religion, ecology, and anthropology. We discuss her dissertation on the San Bushman of South Africa, titled “The Primal Metaphysics of Becoming-Animal During the Chasing Hunt in the Kalahari Desert,” which grapples with these epistemological challenges by utilizing a synthetic framework that draws upon structural and poststructural approaches to the exploration of ontogenetic fluidity, liminality, and multi-species subjectivities of San Bushman cosmology. Chantal shares how her research led her to articulate the novel concepts of eco-exegesis and a vision of primal metaphysics and religion. We discuss challenges working at the intersection of western academics and non-western indigenous ways of knowing. Chantal also sheds light on the importance of the scholar-activist model and how, through decolonial scholarship, one can move beyond mere interdisciplinary dialogue to more actively engage marginalized philosophical, religious, and indigenous perspectives. Chantal is a comparative cultural and religious studies scholar at the intersection of ecology and culture. Her current academic interests explore metaphysical expressions of ontological ambiguity from a multispecies and transspecies perspective of personhood. In 2021 Chantal graduated with a Ph.D. in Philosophy of Religion from the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) with a concentration in Ecology, Spirituality, and Religion. Using ethnographic and filmographic materials, her research inquiry undertook a metaphysical narrative-based analysis of Indigenous and decolonial approaches to environmental engagement, focused on the ontological ambiguity of human-animal relationships in hunter-gatherer cosmology in southern Africa. South African born and raised, her professional background spans twenty years of experience in educational film and media, communications, and business development relations. Chantal is also the co-founder of the educational non-profit, the Deep-Water Initiative. She received a B.A. in film production from the internationally award-winning film school AFDA in South Africa and an M.A. in Middle Eastern History from Tel-Aviv University, where I studied the evolution of modern media in the Middle East. Chantal's Webpage • Deep Water Initiative East-West Psychology Podcast Website Connect with EWP: Website • Youtube • Facebook Music at the end of the episode are Canto 8: Sacrifice/Canto 9: Liberation, from the album Experiments of Truth, by Kayos Theory, released on Monsoon-Music Record Label Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Topics Include: Achdut and the unity of Israel, the Land as a “holobiont,” and the relationality of tribal blessings in the spatial equilibrium of nested ecosystems For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Achdut and the unity of Israel, the Land as a “holobiont,” and the relationality of tribal blessings in the spatial equilibrium of nested ecosystems For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The wisdom of Torah watering the seeds of life, song as liberatory moments, and defending the harmony of creation For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The wisdom of Torah watering the seeds of life, song as liberatory moments, and defending the harmony of creation For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Selichot and the New Year for the Animals, responsibility and standing together as a community, Shmita and an ecological consciousness For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Selichot and the New Year for the Animals, responsibility and standing together as a community, Shmita and an ecological consciousness For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Giving away some of our labor as a form of thanksgiving, the transformation of “strategic weakness,” and living in service of the Land For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Giving away some of our labor as a form of thanksgiving, the transformation of “strategic weakness,” and living in service of the Land For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Sending away a mother bird, considerate foraging practices, and avoiding the “second death” of nature For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Sending away a mother bird, considerate foraging practices, and avoiding the “second death” of nature For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Promotion of the law and nature imagery, the biblical commandment of Bal Tashchit, and devoting oneself to embodied change as a form of environmental justice For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Promotion of the law and nature imagery, the biblical commandment of Bal Tashchit, and devoting oneself to embodied change as a form of environmental justice For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Choosing life in the Anthropocene, supporting the holiness of the Land, earth-based tzedakah, and finding strength in times of crisis For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Choosing life in the Anthropocene, supporting the holiness of the Land, earth-based tzedakah, and finding strength in times of crisis For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The link between climate and theology, spiritual sustenance from food, and the momentum of positive change For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The link between climate and theology, spiritual sustenance from food, and the momentum of positive change For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Eretz Yisrael and Gaia Consciousness, the Land as animate space, and our material responsibilities as part of a spiritual life For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Eretz Yisrael and Gaia Consciousness, the Land as animate space, and our material responsibilities as part of a spiritual life For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Teshuva and a “land ethic,” healing metaphysical geographies, and the importance of plurality For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Teshuva and a “land ethic,” healing metaphysical geographies, and the importance of plurality For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
The Deep Water Initiative works to capture soundscapes in nature. The preservation - through audio recordings - of various habitats, individual species, and wildlife sounds are a form of environmental activism. Soundscapes tell the story of a place, and we aim to share that music with the world. Park City, UT
Topics Include: Balaam’s reincarnation into a rock, nature as a medium for tikkun, and the open spaces of Levitical Cities. For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Balaam’s reincarnation into a rock, nature as a medium for tikkun, and the open spaces of Levitical Cities. For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The role of zealousness in action, ‘green shaming’ as a reflection of our own faults, and social justice For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The role of zealousness in action, ‘green shaming’ as a reflection of our own faults, and social justice For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
The Deep Water Initiative works to capture soundscapes in nature. The preservation - through audio recordings - of various habitats, individual species, and wildlife sounds are a form of environmental activism. Soundscapes tell the story of a place, and we aim to share that music with the world. Black Sand Beach Depoe Bay, OR
The Deep Water Initiative works to capture soundscapes in nature. The preservation - through audio recordings - of various habitats, individual species, and wildlife sounds are a form of environmental activism. Soundscapes tell the story of a place, and we aim to share that music with the world. Black Sand Beach Depoe Bay, OR
Topics Include: Water in the wilderness, integrating our ecological activism with gratefulness, and reducing the suffering of all living creatures For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Water in the wilderness, integrating our ecological activism with gratefulness, and reducing the suffering of all living creatures For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The autonomy of the earth in the Rebellion of Korach, the earth swallowing the mutineers and their possessions, and the proper integration of material wealth into our lives For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The autonomy of the earth in the Rebellion of Korach, the earth swallowing the mutineers and their possessions, and the proper integration of material wealth into our lives For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Finding the essence of G-d through nature, fighting against those who cause us to fall, and the analogy between a tzaddik and a tree. For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Finding the essence of G-d through nature, fighting against those who cause us to fall, and the analogy between a tzaddik and a tree. For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The dysfunctionality of global systems revealed during Covid-19, the analogy between mitzvot and renewable energy technologies, the dissatisfaction with manna and the danger of nostalgia For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The dysfunctionality of global systems revealed during Covid-19, the analogy between mitzvot and renewable energy technologies, the dissatisfaction with manna and the danger of nostalgia For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: “Lifting up” the world, the Ordeal of Bitter Waters, and the eco-feminism of Torah For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: “Lifting up” the world, the Ordeal of Bitter Waters, and the eco-feminism of Torah For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The role of wilderness after the exodus, the nature and culture divide, and the ecological lesson in the prohibition against counting directly For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The role of wilderness after the exodus, the nature and culture divide, and the ecological lesson in the prohibition against counting directly For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
In this episode I am joined by Dr. Frédérique Apffel-Marglin who is Professor Emerita at the Dpt. of Anthropology at Smith College and Distinguished Visiting Professor at the College of the Environment at Wesleyan University (2013-14). In 2009 Frédérique founded Sachamama Center for Biocultural Regeneration (SCBR) in the Peruvian High Amazon, which is the current focus of her theoretical, social and spiritual work. For additional resources on Frédérique work please visit the Deep Water Initiative website. https://www.dwinitiative.org/post/theoldway-podcast-with-dr-fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9rique-apffel-marglin
Topics Include: The relationship between the Sabbath, Shemittah, and Yovel; the tendency of the natural world to move towards greater complexity; and, how forms of human action can disrupt the balance of the natural world For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The relationship between the Sabbath, Shemittah, and Yovel; the tendency of the natural world to move towards greater complexity; and, how forms of human action can disrupt the balance of the natural world For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Speech and its relationship to environmentalism, the animal soul and ‘optional’ potentiality, and honoring all of creation through activism For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Speech and its relationship to environmentalism, the animal soul and ‘optional’ potentiality, and honoring all of creation through activism For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Finding a balance between our spiritual and material obligations, communal and individual varieties of atonement, loving one’s fellow, and the environmental intendment that are innate to mitzvot For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: Finding a balance between our spiritual and material obligations, communal and individual varieties of atonement, loving one’s fellow, and the environmental intendment that are innate to mitzvot For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The Hebrew word for blood (dam) in both Adam (the first human) and adamah (earth), the eco-theological relationship between human blood and the blood of the earth, and how the laws of chukim can help us rethink material healing For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.
Topics Include: The Hebrew word for blood (dam) in both Adam (the first human) and adamah (earth), the eco-theological relationship between human blood and the blood of the earth, and how the laws of chukim can help us rethink material healing For a full transcript, please click the following link: https://www.dwinitiative.org/news/categories/untitled-category To follow this series weekly, please subscribe to the Deep Water Initiative mailing list on our website. The Torah for the Earth Podcast and Audio Essays are Copyrighted to Charles Scott Forbes Jr, 2019.