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Pastors’ Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

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    • Dec 21, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekly NEW EPISODES
    • 27m AVG DURATION
    • 350 EPISODES

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    Latest episodes from Pastors' Talk

    Episode 193: On Top 2021 News Stories for Pastors (with Collin Hansen & Garrett Kell)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2021 36:27

    Episode 192: On Pastoral Ministry in Post-Christian Sweden (with Johnny Lithell, Ben Lacey, and Caleb Morell)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2021 23:19

    Mark Dever, Caleb Morell, and Ben Lacey chat with Swedish pastor Johnny Lithell about the ups and downs of ministry in a place with so few Christians.

    Episode 191: On Pastoral Patience - Part 2 (with John Folmar & Josh Manley)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2021 23:33

    In a previous episode, Jonathan Leeman chatted with Mark Dever, Josh Manley, and John Folmar about the value of pastoral patience.In this follow-up episode, they discuss how a pastor can slowly change things in a church.

    Episode 190: On Pastoral Patience - Part 1 (with John Folmar & Josh Manley)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2021 26:41

    For the first ten minutes of this episode, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever talk to Josh Manley and John Folmar about Christianity in Afghanistan and the UAE. Then they spend the rest of their time discussing the necessity of pastoral patience.

    Episode 189: How Can I Support International Missions? (with Mark Collins)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2021 24:07

    Every Christian has a role in supporting international missions. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Mark Collins—a supported worker in East Asia—about the relationship between a church and its missionaries.

    Episode 188: On Sound Doctrine and the Problems with the "Deconstruction" Project

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2021 26:47

    In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever chats with Jonathan Leeman about our new Journal and, in particular, Jonathan's Editor's Note, which focuses on the problems of the “deconstruction” project.

    Episode 187: On Nine Marks of a Healthy Church (4th Edition)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2021 21:31

    We released Nine Marks of a Healthy Church more than 20 years ago. Today, we celebrate its fourth edition.In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan chats with Mark about the book's history, and how this edition introduces two “additional” marks.

    Episode 186: On Gentle and Lowly (with Dane Ortlund) | Pastors Talk, Ep. 186

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2021 30:44

    What's the thesis of Gentle and Lowly? “Jesus is not who you think he is.” Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever chat with Dane Ortlund about his book, and how it ought to shape pastors and local churches.

    Episode 185: On The Path to Being a Pastor — Part 2 (with Bobby Jamieson)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2021 23:21

    Episode 184: On The Path to Being a Pastor — Part 1 (with Bobby Jamieson)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2021 21:52

    Episode 183: On Church-Centered Missions vs Movement-Driven Missions

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2021 31:18

    What's the difference between “movement-based missions” and “church-based missions”? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mack Stiles, Brooks Buser, Scott Logsdon, and Aubrey Sequeira about these diverging approaches to obeying the Great Commission.

    Episode 182: On How Buildings Turn Churches into Time Machines (with Adam Sinnett)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2021 17:55

    Episode 181: On Translating Books and the Great Commission (with Rick Denham, Daniel Henderson & David Adams)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2021 20:16

    What does translating books have to do with the Great Commission?Jonathan Leeman sat down with three international publishers to talk about that question.

    Episode 180: On Filtering Pastoral Candidates (with Bobby Jamieson)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2021 29:58

    Episode 179: On How to Plant a Church (with Eric Bancroft & Matt Smethurst)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2021 25:59

    Episode 178: On Rediscover Church (with Collin Hansen)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2021 26:37

    Episode 177: On Your Old Testament Sermon Needs to Get Saved (with David King & Mike Bullmore)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2021 20:20

    How do you preach a Christ-centered sermon from the Old Testament? Jonathan Leeman chats with David King and Mike Bullmore about our new preaching book, "Your Old Testament Sermon Needs to Get Saved".

    Episode 176: On Why We Gather Twice on Sundays

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2021 21:35

    In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about gathering twice on Sundays, and why it might be good for your church to be “inconvenient.”

    Episode 175: On Plagiarism in the Pulpit (with Ben Lacey)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2021 39:59

    Episode 174: On Why Is the Lord's Supper So Important? (with Aubrey M. Sequeira & Sam Emadi)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2021 24:05

    Episode 173: On How Can I Find Someone to Disciple Me? (with Garrett Kell & Mike McKinley)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2021 25:34

    Have you ever asked, “How can I find someone to disciple me?”In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever, Garrett Kell, and Mike McKinley about that common question.

    Episode 172: On Pastoring and Parenting (with David Helm, Juan Sachez, and Michael Lawrence)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2021 43:44

    Episode 171: On Does God Love Everyone? (with Matt McCullough & Mike McKinley)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2021 22:07

    Does God love everyone?Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever, Mike McKinley, and Matt McCullough about our new Church Questions booklet on that important question.

    Episode 170: On Men and Women in the Church (with Kevin DeYoung)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2021 25:37

    Episode 169: On Why Should I Give to My Church (with Jamie Dunlop)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2021 24:06

    Most Christians know that they should give to their church, but fewer know why they should. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Jamie Dunlop about this topic, which is also covered in Jamie's new booklet, "Why Should I Give to My Church?"

    Episode 168: On Membership Interviews

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2021 18:07

    Episode 167: On Deacons (with Matt Smethurst)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2021 27:10

    What does the Bible say about deacons? How are they different than elders? Should they balance the authority of the elders?In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Matt Smethurst about his new book.

    Episode 166: On How Can Women Thrive in the Local Church (with Keri Folmar)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2021 22:50

    Are local churches uniquely difficult for women? How can women thrive in our churches?In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever chat with Keri Folmar about her new booklet from Crossway and 9Marks.

    Episode 165: On Overview Sermons

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2021 24:17

    Episode 164: On Pastoral Sabbaticals (with Jamie Dunlop)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2021 25:11

    Episode 163: On Paying Pastors (with Jamie Dunlop)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2021 26:07

    How much should churches pay their pastors? How can they even find the answer to that question? Should a pastor ever ask for a raise?Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Jamie Dunlop about these questions.

    Episode 162: On Firing Church Staff

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2021 23:23

    Episode 161: On Corporate Worship (with Matt Merker)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2021 24:32

    In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Matt Merker about Merker’s new book "Corporate Worship".

    Episode 160: On Raising Up Elders in a Growing Church

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2021 26:31

    In a growing church, nominating elders can be hard. After all, people might not know the man. They might never have heard him teach. So what’s a church to do?Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about raising up elders as a church’s culture changes.

    Episode 159: On How to Talk to Your Church About Leaving (with Hershael York)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2021 24:42

    How transparent should pastors be with their congregation as they think about pursuing other jobs? As it turns out, Mark Dever and Hershael York offer different counsel on this. Jonathan Leeman chats with them about the wisdom of different approaches.

    Episode 158: On Chairing an Elders Meeting (with Isaac Adams & Ken Barbic)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2021 34:43

    Episode 157: On Why Should I Be Baptized? (with Bobby Jamieson)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2021 23:02

    Surely you’ve heard someone ask, “But pastor, why should I be baptized?”In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Bobby Jamieson about that important question.

    Episode 156: On How Pastors Should Prepare their People for Eternity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2021 24:53

    Episode 155: On Remembering 2020

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2020 17:33

    This year has been hard, but now it’s finally (nearly) over. In this final Pastors Talk of 2020, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the highs and lows of this particular year.

    Episode 154: On A Bunch of Fun Biographies

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2020 29:18

    Episode 153: On Caring for Members Unwilling to Come Back to Church (with Nathan Knight)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2020 25:42

    Episode 152: On Virtual "Church"

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2020 20:19

    Episode 151: On How Much a Pastor Should Care About His Reputation

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2020 36:38

    Paul says pastors must be “well thought of by outsiders.” But Jesus says we’re “blessed” when others speak evil about us, even falsely.What do we do with this? How much should a pastor care about his reputation?

    Episode 151: On How Much a Pastor Should Care About His Reputation

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2020 36:38

    Paul says pastors must be “well thought of by outsiders.” But Jesus says we’re “blessed” when others speak evil about us, even falsely.What do we do with this? How much should a pastor care about his reputation?

    Episode 150: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 2 (with Matt Schmucker)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2020 24:37

    Episode 150: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 2 (with Matt Schmucker)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2020 24:37

    Episode 149: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 1 (with Matt Schmucker)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2020 22:03

    Some churches report hundreds of members, with dozens in attendance. These churches need to “clean their rolls.”Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Matt Schmucker about what that means and why churches should do it.

    Episode 149: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 1 (with Matt Schmucker)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2020 22:03

    Some churches report hundreds of members, with dozens in attendance. These churches need to “clean their rolls.”Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Matt Schmucker about what that means and why churches should do it.

    Episode 148: On How A Culture of Discipling + Lay Elders = Church Planting

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2020 27:22

    Healthy churches plant churches. But how? What causes a church to “bubble over”? Here’s one way.

    Episode 148: On How A Culture of Discipling + Lay Elders = Church Planting

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2020 27:22

    Episode 147: On the Appeal and the Errors of Theonomy (with T. David Gordon)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2020 38:33

    Broadly speaking, “theonomy” is the theological persuasion that civil societies ought to be governed by the Mosaic Law. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever chat with T. David Gordon about the errors and appeal of theonomy.

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