Teaching What It Takes ®

Special guest, Barbara Rimkunas, Co-Executive Director of the Exeter Historical Society, unveils stunning evidence of white New Hampshire residence owning Black slaves both before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Hear why "Southerners owned slaves, but Northerners didn't" is an overgeneralization we need to confront and understand.

Special guests, Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi, join us from Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa, to discuss fatherhood and social justice after apartheid. What if our children's heroes have a different skin color? How should we prepare our children for a prejudiced world?  

Special guest, John Daves, Director of Community & Equity Affairs at St. Mark's School, discusses the identity lenses we look through, our willingness to look in the mirror, and the importance of "second sight"--the ability to see ourselves how others see us. Is this a triple threat for white people or other majority groups?  

Hosts David and Chris discuss media coverage of Gabby Petito's murder. What responsibility do journalists and media corporations have to investigate and publicize crimes against people from traditionally under-represented groups? How do we, as media consumers, counteract the bias in who makes headlines?  

Hosts David and Chris discuss the Sept 23 violence against Haitian refugees at the US - Mexico border. How do images of this event portray American values to audiences on MSNBC, Fox News, and Al Jazeera? What do these grim echoes of America's history of slavery say about our social progress?  

Hosts David and Chris reflect on Season 1 of IBYW and discuss summer camp staff training, making amends for unintentional microaggressions, cross-cultural fluency, and the state of the world after the tragic deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and others.  

Special guests Ken Mendis, Chair of the Racial Unity Team, and Joshua Conley, Mizzou student leader and 2060 POTUS, discuss what motivates people of all ages to be fight prejudice. You'll be stunned to learn why listening leads to more change than strident rhetoric.  

Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reveal surprising truths about the pinnacles and pitfalls of being an anti-racist. Social justice can save the world but depends on a sustained commitment to the raggedy work taking initiative, listening to feedback, and speaking your truth.  

Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.  

Phillips Exeter Academy teacher and coach, Brandon Thomas, joins co-hosts David M. Conley and Dr. Chris Thurber to explain how RACE is perceived differently in China vs. the US and how the CLASSROOM is the crucible for anti-black racism.  

Special guest, Dustin Ward, Racial Equity & Reconciliation Advocate President and Founder of IT IS TIME, LLC, describes the shattering consequences of putting scripture into practice. Jesus met opposition when He advocated for social justice two millennia ago...and nothing has changed. Or has it?  

Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reflect on lessons learned from their first ten guests. From public servants to students, ministers to movement organizers, the discussions have been illuminating, controversial, and raggedy. But what have David and Chris learned?  

Makela Elvy and Briana Mitchell, founders of S'More Melanin, describe the "ah-ha" moment that inspired their collaboration to change the summer camp status quo of "being a speck of pepper in a sea of salt."  

Special Guest, Montague Simmons, is a professional community organizer and human rights activist. Take an intriguing peek behind the curtain in hotspots like Minneapolis, Louisville, and Grand Rapids with a man who has devoted his life to helping under-represented people represent themselves loud and clear.  

Guests Jacob Conley, student at Boston Conservatory of Fine Arts, and Dacha Thurber, Phillips Exeter Academy '20 discuss what systemic racism looks like on campus today. What's with @blackat[____] Instagram accounts? Can one person represent an entire race? Will music and theater communicate better than posts and protests?  

Guest Dr. Michael Bieze, Fine Arts Chair at Marist School, discusses the peril of public statues and monuments, when art is a political statement, designing an anti-racist curriculum, and why freedom of expression matters. Hosts: Dr. Christopher Thurber & Mr. David Conley  

The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change. This introduction to Season 1 lays the groundwork for the candid conversations in Episodes 2 through 15, featuring fascinating guests on the forefront of social justice.  

Guest—Dr. Edward "Skip" Walton—has saved thousands of lives. Walton is a pediatric emergency physician, university professor, lieutenant commander in the Navy Reserve, and medical director at North Star Reach, a therapeutic camp that serves children with chronic illnesses. In this interview (conducted while  in post-exposure quarantine following several weeks of medical service with the Navy Reserve) Walton talks candidly to families like yours about viruses, summer camp, and the virtue of unselfishness.  

Guest—Jessica Lepler—Associate Professor of History at UNH and author of The Many Panics of 1837, explains why knowing—even bad news—is always better than not knowing. In 1837, the fact that American cotton growers and merchants did not know whether London banks had dropped the price of cotton led to anxiety akin to today's COVID-19 pandemic. President Trump's late responses, obfuscations, and ignorance have resulted in widespread not knowing and resultant feelings of panic.  

Guest—Bonnie Harris—author of When Your Kids Push Your Buttons—and What You Can Do About It, discusses what's really going on when parents flip out. It happens to all adults who work with children or who have their own kids—some minor misbehavior gets under your skin and inflames an old psychological wound or hidden sensitivity. In refreshingly plain language, Harris outlines her original, powerful method for gaining control over explosive emotional reactions.