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Dr. Christopher Thurber


    • Jul 14, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
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    I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT [Ep. 22] What’s the history of slavery in the North? Teaching What It Takes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2022 72:32


    Special guest, Barbara Rimkunas, Co-Executive Director of the Exeter Historical Society, unveils stunning evidence of white New Hampshire residence owning Black slaves both before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Hear why "Southerners owned slaves, but Northerners didn't" is an overgeneralization we need to confront and understand.

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 21] [Guests: Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi]

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2022


    Special guests, Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi, join us from Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa, to discuss fatherhood and social justice after apartheid. What if our children's heroes have a different skin color? How should we prepare our children for a prejudiced world?  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 20] [Guest: John Daves on Lenses, Mirrors, and Second Sight]

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2022


    Special guest, John Daves, Director of Community & Equity Affairs at St. Mark's School, discusses the identity lenses we look through, our willingness to look in the mirror, and the importance of "second sight"--the ability to see ourselves how others see us. Is this a triple threat for white people or other majority groups?  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 19] [Race and the Murder of Gabby Petito]

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2022


    Hosts David and Chris discuss media coverage of Gabby Petito's murder. What responsibility do journalists and media corporations have to investigate and publicize crimes against people from traditionally under-represented groups? How do we, as media consumers, counteract the bias in who makes headlines?  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 18] [Violence at the US – Mexico Border]

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2022


    Hosts David and Chris discuss the Sept 23 violence against Haitian refugees at the US - Mexico border. How do images of this event portray American values to audiences on MSNBC, Fox News, and Al Jazeera? What do these grim echoes of America's history of slavery say about our social progress?  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 17] [Driving in Cars with David & Chris]

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2022


    Hosts David and Chris reflect on Season 1 of IBYW and discuss summer camp staff training, making amends for unintentional microaggressions, cross-cultural fluency, and the state of the world after the tragic deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and others.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 15] [Guests: Ken Mendis, Chair, Racial Unity Team & Joshua Conley, Mizzou Student Leader]

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2020 69:15


    Special guests Ken Mendis, Chair of the Racial Unity Team, and Joshua Conley, Mizzou student leader and 2060 POTUS, discuss what motivates people of all ages to be fight prejudice. You'll be stunned to learn why listening leads to more change than strident rhetoric.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 14] [Hosts: Dr. Chris Thurber & David M. Conley]

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2020 61:46


    Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reveal surprising truths about the pinnacles and pitfalls of being an anti-racist. Social justice can save the world but depends on a sustained commitment to the raggedy work taking initiative, listening to feedback, and speaking your truth.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 13] [Guests: Detective John Leggette & Montague Simmons, Human Rights Activist]

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2020 64:59


    Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 12] [Guest: Brandon Thomas, Phillips Exeter Academy]

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2020 44:21


    Phillips Exeter Academy teacher and coach, Brandon Thomas, joins co-hosts David M. Conley and Dr. Chris Thurber to explain how RACE is perceived differently in China vs. the US and how the CLASSROOM is the crucible for anti-black racism.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 11] [Guest: Dustin Ward, President and Founder, IT IS TIME]

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2020 76:52


    Special guest, Dustin Ward, Racial Equity & Reconciliation Advocate President and Founder of IT IS TIME, LLC, describes the shattering consequences of putting scripture into practice. Jesus met opposition when He advocated for social justice two millennia ago...and nothing has changed. Or has it?  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 10] [Hosts: Dr. Chris Thurber & David M. Conley]

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2020 71:35


    Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reflect on lessons learned from their first ten guests. From public servants to students, ministers to movement organizers, the discussions have been illuminating, controversial, and raggedy. But what have David and Chris learned?  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 9] [Guests: Makela Elvy & Briana Mitchell, S’More Melanin]

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2020 66:15


    Makela Elvy and Briana Mitchell, founders of S'More Melanin, describe the "ah-ha" moment that inspired their collaboration to change the summer camp status quo of "being a speck of pepper in a sea of salt."  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 8] [Guest: Montague Simmons, Community Organizer, Human Rights Activist]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2020 64:52


    Special Guest, Montague Simmons, is a professional community organizer and human rights activist. Take an intriguing peek behind the curtain in hotspots like Minneapolis, Louisville, and Grand Rapids with a man who has devoted his life to helping under-represented people represent themselves loud and clear.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 7] [Guests: Jacob Conley & Dacha Thurber]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2020 87:49


    Guests Jacob Conley, student at Boston Conservatory of Fine Arts, and Dacha Thurber, Phillips Exeter Academy '20 discuss what systemic racism looks like on campus today. What's with @blackat[____] Instagram accounts? Can one person represent an entire race? Will music and theater communicate better than posts and protests?  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 6] [Guest: Dr. Michael Bieze, Fine Arts Chair, Marist School]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2020 69:41


    Guest Dr. Michael Bieze, Fine Arts Chair at Marist School, discusses the peril of public statues and monuments, when art is a political statement, designing an anti-racist curriculum, and why freedom of expression matters. Hosts: Dr. Christopher Thurber & Mr. David Conley  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 5] [Guest: Ms. B. J. Walker, President, In The Public Way]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2020 72:53


    The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 4] [Guest: Rev. James Winfrey III, Dir. of Ops, Urban Alchemy]

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2020 83:14


    The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 3] [Guests: Andy Bigelow, Teacher & Brian Lighty, Banker]

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2020 57:39


    The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

    I'M BLACK; YOU'RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 2] [Guest: Detective John Leggette]

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2020 57:53


    The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change.  

    I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 1] [Hosts: Dr. Chris Thurber & David M. Conley]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2020 57:28


    The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change. This introduction to Season 1 lays the groundwork for the candid conversations in Episodes 2 through 15, featuring fascinating guests on the forefront of social justice.  

    Viruses and the Virtue of Unselfishness [Guest: Skip Walton] [Coffee with Chris]

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2020 32:14


    Guest—Dr. Edward "Skip" Walton—has saved thousands of lives. Walton is a pediatric emergency physician, university professor, lieutenant commander in the Navy Reserve, and medical director at North Star Reach, a therapeutic camp that serves children with chronic illnesses. In this interview (conducted while  in post-exposure quarantine following several weeks of medical service with the Navy Reserve) Walton talks candidly to families like yours about viruses, summer camp, and the virtue of unselfishness.  

    How the Government Creates Panic [Guest: Jessica Lepler] [Coffee with Chris]

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2020 53:14


    Guest—Jessica Lepler—Associate Professor of History at UNH and author of The Many Panics of 1837, explains why knowing—even bad news—is always better than not knowing. In 1837, the fact that American cotton growers and merchants did not know whether London banks had dropped the price of cotton led to anxiety akin to today's COVID-19 pandemic. President Trump's late responses, obfuscations, and ignorance have resulted in widespread not knowing and resultant feelings of panic.  

    When Your Kids Push Your Buttons [Guest: Bonnie Harris] [Coffee with Chris]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2020 46:34


    Guest—Bonnie Harris—author of When Your Kids Push Your Buttons—and What You Can Do About It, discusses what's really going on when parents flip out. It happens to all adults who work with children or who have their own kids—some minor misbehavior gets under your skin and inflames an old psychological wound or hidden sensitivity. In refreshingly plain language, Harris outlines her original, powerful method for gaining control over explosive emotional reactions.  

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