Podcast appearances and mentions of ben stock

Time for another round of our TL;DR conference special! At USENIX 2024 in Philadelphia, we met an old CISPA friend: Dr. Sebastian Roth, Postdoc at TU Vienna. Sebastian did his PhD in the research group of CISPA-Faculty Dr. Ben Stock, where he focussed on web security at the intersection of usable security. In the hallway of the conference hotel, we talk about his time at CISPA, the role of everyday developers in web security and about the importance of security standards in the web. Listening is just like meeting an old friend – enjoy this latest episode of TL;DR!

„Nach der Deadline ist vor der Deadline“, dieser Spruch ist im CISPA häufig zu hören. Kein Wunder: Das wissenschaftliche Jahr ist neben viel Forschungsarbeit vor allem von Paper-Fristen und wissenschaftlichen Konferenzen geprägt. Doch warum sind Konferenzen eigentlich so wichtig? Um was geht es dort, wie laufen sie ab und was bringen sie? Auf diese und noch viel mehr Fragen haben die CISPA-Faculty Dr. Katharina Krombholz und Dr. Ben Stock Antworten. Nicht nur, weil sie wie sie selbst im Podcast mehrfach durchblicken lassen, schon „alte Hasen“ sind und an vielen Konferenzen teilgenommen haben, sondern auch, weil sie beide in diesem Jahr als Program Chairs zwei wichtige Konferenzen in ihren Fachgebieten maßgeblich mitgestaltet und mitorganisiert haben. Was dabei die schwierigsten Aufgaben sind, wie der Forschungsnachwuchs von Konferenzen profitiert und in ihre Abläufe eingebunden wird und vieles mehr, könnt ihr in dieser deutschsprachigen Folge von CISPA TL:DR hören. Viel Spaß beim Hören!

To earn CE credits you must listen to podcast on https://1technation.com/category/podcasts In this podcast we talk to Ben Stock, Director of Healthcare Product Management at Ordr about 5 Ways HTM Teams can Help Improve Cybersecurity Across the Whole Hospital. These takeaways include asset inventory, knowing vulnerabilities, improving collaboration, holding vendors accountable, and expanding your influence. Tune in to learn more!

To earn CE credits you must listen to podcast on https://1technation.com/category/podcasts In this podcast we talk to Ben Stock, Director of Healthcare Product Management at Ordr about 5 Ways HTM Teams can Help Improve Cybersecurity Across the Whole Hospital. These takeaways include asset inventory, knowing vulnerabilities, improving collaboration, holding vendors accountable, and expanding your influence. Tune in to learn more!

The prestigious USENIX Security 2023 conference in Anaheim, California is only days away! CISPA Faculty Dr. Ben Stock has co-authored a paper on E-Mail Security that will be presented there, along with 29 other papers with CISPA involvement. In this episode of TL;DR, he tells us all about how secure E-Mails really are, why you should always double check who the sender of a suspicious E-Mail really is and what the future might hold in store for the E-Mail standard.

This is a LIVE replay (edits made due to technical difficulties) of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, May 17th, 2023 at 1130am ET on Fireside Chat. Today's guest is Noga Schechter, Mental Health and Disordered Eating Advocate. Lorilee Binstock  00:00:28  Welcome. I'm Lorilee Binstock, and this is A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me live on Fireside where you can be a part of the conversation as my virtual audience. I am your host, Laura Lee Benstock. Everyone has an opportunity to ask me or our guest questions by requesting to hop on stage or I'm sending a message in the chat box. I will try to get you, but I do ask that you'd be respectful. Today's guest is Noga Schecther, Mental Health and Disordered Eating Advocate. Noga, thank you so much for joining me today. Noga Schechter  00:01:20  Oh my gosh. Thank you for having me. I remember how I found you. Lorilee Binstock  00:01:25  How did you find me? Noga Schechter  00:01:27  I was just looking for an avenue to to talk about these things, and I couldn't believe how they're just isn't that much out there. And you were in really easy find because there just aren't as many dedicated Lorilee Binstock  00:01:37  Yep. Noga Schechter  00:01:43  places where you can start talking about these types of issues as much as one would think. So I was really excited to find you. Lorilee Binstock  00:01:49  Ma'am, Oh, well, thank you. And I appreciate, you know, we've had conversations before, and you actually you shared with me, even before we got on our phone call about Noga Schechter  00:01:59  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:01:59  your your childhood trauma, which really Noga Schechter  00:02:02  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:02:03  seem to extend until adulthood. Would you mind sharing that? Noga Schechter  00:02:10  Yeah. I I think, you know, I grew up For starters, an immigrant from Israel, I I I came here to the US when I was six. And I grew up in an environment where there wasn't necessarily a safe place. My mom was very traumatized from her own childhood. She suffered from alcoholism, and lots of mental health issues. My father, I think, at the time, was just trying to keep everything together as the glue of the family. So he was So he was just really inundated with with crisis management. So As a as a as a young girl, I I I was just always on my own. You know? And and that, you know, when you're when you're a child, you don't know how to process things, especially pain. Or discomfort or just truth. And so I went about processing I I went about most of my childhood with an inability to process the trauma that I that I have in third. Lorilee Binstock  00:03:29  I know you said your dad dealt with a lot of Christ management, was he able Noga Schechter  00:03:33  Again. Lorilee Binstock  00:03:34  to comfort you? Did you did you feel comfortable sharing any issues or pain you know, children children need to share. And so we're Was was he able to do that, or was it just, like, so overwhelming by just managing what he had to already manage? Noga Schechter  00:03:45  Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. I was alone. I mean, I didn't have any comfort in my We had don't get me wrong. I mean, we had fun moments as a family. We took vacations. But in the day to day, from when I can even remember, I was processing alone. I was learning alone. I was processing alone. I was dealing alone, I did not have a comfortable space to go to go talk ever, ever. Until I reached you on the adulthood. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:27  Wow. So and and, you know, not having a person there for you. Especially as a child, that cat that is trauma. Noga Schechter  00:04:33  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:36  There's trauma. When you have when when you're learning how to cope with something, Noga Schechter  00:04:36  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:42  then you can't turn to an adult, that that must have been really hard. Noga Schechter  00:04:47  Well, you know, you don't really know. I mean, you know that it's hard I knew it was hard. I knew I was in pain, but I thought that that was normal. Yeah. I I didn't really understand how damaging my household was until the shoe dropped is what I call it. You know? With young adult where you're looking around at your life, you know, in your mid twenties and you're like, why is everything wrong? You know, So it's you know, I use this word a lot right now. It's I use the word egoic construct. Right? So I I I was in an ego contract thinking that this was okay, this was normal, and this is whatever how everyone lived. Lorilee Binstock  00:05:32  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:05:33  Not having support being alone, you know, which caused a a huge habit for magical thinking is what I call. What I call it, Lorilee Binstock  00:05:44  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:05:44  you know, I went into years and years of magical thinking, which is, you know, we call it being a dreamer as adults. But when you're a child and you don't have the ability to process your trauma, you start hoping and wishing hoping and wishing all the time, and that's how one processes. And you think the hoping and wishing hoping and wishing is going to change your environment and change your situations, but we know that that's not the case. Right? It's it's with incremental actions that life changes. So, you know, there were some habits that I picked up from essentially being alone, and that I took into a thought that that became extremely unhealthy. Lorilee Binstock  00:06:31  When was it that you began to you said in your twenties, you started using did you start I know we were talking about trauma and disordered eating, Noga Schechter  00:06:40  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:06:43  was when did you start using food to help you cope? Noga Schechter  00:06:47  You know, I think I always did. You know? Like, I think I always did I think what I think it was really around puberty, like, around twelve or thirteen where I started really eating a lot way beyond peeling full. And but I have to be honest, it's just been a blur ever since because when you're in that state, you know, this this this crisis, this constant crisis, constant coming. It's hard to remember a lot of it. It feels like it's just so much of a blur. Lorilee Binstock  00:07:24  Right. Noga Schechter  00:07:25  But but, specifically, when I was in my mid twenties, I was married. I I married really young. Basically, a replica of my mother, you know, a big drinker, a big gambler, irresponsible, not not reliable and damaging. Just a very damaging relationship. And that mimics my household. Right? Because that's what you do. Lorilee Binstock  00:07:54  Right. Right. Noga Schechter  00:07:54  And and I remember those were the nights where I started to, like, eat myself to sleep. You know? Like like, though that's when the behavior started becoming. Lorilee Binstock  00:08:08  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:08:09  Past self harm into, like, I may be killing myself. Lorilee Binstock  00:08:14  Wow. Noga Schechter  00:08:16  And and and it's over time. Right? It doesn't happen. It it the body is a pro is is Lorilee Binstock  00:08:16  Mom. Noga Schechter  00:08:22  the human body is is a progression. It's a snapshot of a of a progression. Right? It's not it's not what it is right now, what you're doing right now. So over time, I was essentially almost killing myself. I was My hormones were totally out of whack because when I was eating, I I had gird. I I I I was pretty diabetic. I got up to three hundred and sixteen pounds. That was the heaviest. But Lorilee Binstock  00:08:50  Well, Noga Schechter  00:08:53  really, in young adulthood, like, my mid twenties into my late twenties is when I started self harming. And that was doing it past the point, like, eating past the point of full, past the point of over eating, and into the place of I hate myself, so I'm going to eat until I'm tired and I go to sleep. So Lorilee Binstock  00:09:18  You know, he yeah. Go ahead. Noga Schechter  00:09:21  yeah. That's I mean, that's where I that's where I initially got. And I knew everything was wrong. I I didn't know how happy I was. I you know you look in the mirror, but I didn't I didn't fully understand what was going on. I it was still very much, so I was in a place of slight mania, crisis, pain. I couldn't see straight. I didn't know anything outside of that construct. Lorilee Binstock  00:09:52  You know, eating disorders, I feel like it can be really difficult because you said what stuck out to me was I think I think I always Noga Schechter  00:09:53  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:01  was just using food as a coping mechanism. Noga Schechter  00:10:03  Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:05  And it's hard because it's, like, you have to eat. You have it's not like drugs. Right? Like, it's not one of those things. Like, oh, you see someone doing cocaine. You know, that Noga Schechter  00:10:12  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:15  we need to do something. Like, you see someone eating and you don't realize, especially at a young age. Like, oh, they're just they're just eating. This is what people do. They eat. Noga Schechter  00:10:24  Yeah. Yeah. It's tricky. You know, I think I've done a lot of reading. I mean, I I've read arguably close to four hundred human behavior books. And eating disorders, I think, are one of the most complicated. Monoclonal illnesses out there, and they also have the highest rate of fatality Lorilee Binstock  00:10:49  Yep. Noga Schechter  00:10:50  out of all dental onagers, and there's only a six percent I think it's something between six and eight percent of all people with with this disease heal. Meaning the healing rate of Lorilee Binstock  00:11:09  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:11:09  of of this is virtually impossible. And and I think the reason that is is because there there's a few things. Right? One is society. Actually, so many people have anything disorders. They just don't even know it. Right? Like, Lorilee Binstock  00:11:28  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:11:29  the way that we the way that we treat food and the way that we have anxiety any any anxiety over food is essentially part of that disease. Lorilee Binstock  00:11:43  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:11:44  So so it's not just the person that overeat, it's the person that's not restrict. It's also the person that is at the gym constantly and is only eating chicken and broccoli Lorilee Binstock  00:11:51  Right. Noga Schechter  00:11:55  saying that this is the healthy way to be because that's the other side of the anxiety. Right? You're still having you're still attaching Lorilee Binstock  00:12:02  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:12:05  unhealthy anxiety around food. So it's not just over eating, and you're overweight. It's super, super, super skinny or super, super, super muscular. Lorilee Binstock  00:12:17  Right. Noga Schechter  00:12:17  You know, all of that's super, super, super, anything is is related. And so I think I think it's society telling us, you know, how to act with food that makes it difficult. But I think the other piece that makes in any sort of so difficult is it involves self loading, and self loading is probably one of the most complicated scenarios to to to unwind. Because you couldn't be further from the truth. Right? So so so so so I think the the more we gravitate from the truth. Truth of the universe truth of what is Lorilee Binstock  00:12:55  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:13:03  the sicker we got. Right? So self loathing Lorilee Binstock  00:13:06  Yep. Noga Schechter  00:13:07  takes everything about you and hates it. Right? So when you're eating this order, it's not I oh, I'm eating too much. It's I hate myself twenty four hours a day. And and and that and that's impossible. Right? Because to think about it. You know, it's sunny it's sunny over here in California, and it's raining in New York. Somebody is being born and somebody is dying, and I may be overweight, but I might have nice hair. I might be overweight, but I have a great sister. When you take all of that and just say everything sucks and I sucks. How do you unwind that? It's so so suffered. It's so distant from the truth. Lorilee Binstock  00:13:53  Yeah. That's so interesting. Noga Schechter  00:13:54  And that's, I think, the most I think, that's the most complicated part of the eating disorder because The only way to unwind it is one strand at a time. Yes. Yes. I'm three hundred pounds, but my hair is beautiful and curly. Step one. Step two. Yeah. Yes. I'm three hundred pounds. But, you know, I have great skin. Yes. Yes. I'm three hundred pounds. My grandmother was wonderful. Like, just starting to just pull apart the thought into something more realistic, which is so many different things can can can be true at the same time. But when you're self loading, everything is clumped into one terrible thought, and and it's it takes a very long time, time line. And I think that that's why it's one of the most complicated mental illnesses to carry. Lorilee Binstock  00:14:45  That's so interesting when you say, like, the self loading and the clumping and putting it all together. Because there are times when I am, like, so angry, Noga Schechter  00:14:50  Oh, yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:14:53  And even though I know that I enjoy multiple things that's happened in the last few days, all of a sudden it's like, god. Noga Schechter  00:14:57  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:01  My life sucks. Everything everything's everything's so screwed up. But the truth is, it's like, Noga Schechter  00:15:02  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:07  it feels like that now. Feels like that when things when you feel like you're stuck, but the truth is there were so many wonderful things dispersed in all of the that that emotion And you're right. It's really hard to unravel that. Noga Schechter  00:15:20  Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I I I you know, some people call it black and white thinking. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:29  Mhmm. Yep. Noga Schechter  00:15:31  It's it couldn't be further from the truth of the universe. It couldn't be further from the truth to to to generalize and to clunk thought. But when you clunks thought to I hate myself all the time, where do you do with that? Where do you go with that? Because she leaves processing that is so can be very difficult. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:53  Yeah. Because I guess you just focus on the one thing that ruins everything. Right? Noga Schechter  00:15:59  Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:59  And so then you go to every extreme. Noga Schechter  00:16:02  Every aspect of you. You're rejecting your entire self in this universe. And the last step to that is eating. Right? Like, the food, the restriction of the food, or they're eating too much, or they're only eating specific food, that's the last piece of this of this disease. It's just, like, the very last outcome. The core of it is rejection of or the core of it is is is the inability to process the way you're processing information from the outside world into the inside is Lorilee Binstock  00:16:44  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:16:45  yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:16:47  When did you realize that this was the something needed to change? You said you were over three hundred pounds at one point. When when were you like, wow. I really need need to make a change in my life. Noga. Noga, are you there? No. I think I lost you or maybe you are talking, and I'm no. Were you there? Let's hold on just a moment. Let's see if we can get her back. Noca, can you are you still there? Nogue, are you still there? May I get you? Noga Schechter  00:18:31  I happened. What a glitch. Okay. I'm back. I'm back. Lorilee Binstock  00:18:35  Oh, okay. So, yeah, so I was getting I'm sorry for I can hear you perfectly. Noga Schechter  00:18:40  Do you hear me okay? Lorilee Binstock  00:18:45  What my last question before it dropped was What changed? What made you realize that a change needed to be made? Are you there? Something happened? Noga, can you hear me? Think we've run into an issue. Noga Schechter  00:19:31  Lorly, do you hear me? Lorilee Binstock  00:19:33  I can hear you. Can you hear me okay? Hello? Hello? Can you hear me? Noga. Nogie, can you hear me? Hello? Noga, can you hear me okay? Noga Schechter  00:20:18  Hello? Lorilee Binstock  00:20:18  Hello? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Hello? Noga, can you hear me? Noga, can you hear me okay? Hello, Noga? Nogou, are you there? Can you hear me? No wonder what's happening. Hey, Noga. Noga Schechter  00:22:17  Do you hear me, Lauraly? Lorilee Binstock  00:22:20  I can. Can you hear me? Noga Schechter  00:22:22  Oh my gosh. We're back. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:24  Oh, we're back. You hear me? Can you hear me? Noga Schechter  00:22:26  I can hear you. I'm so excited. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:27  Oh, okay. Noga Schechter  00:22:29  That's so weird. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:30  No. No worries. Noga Schechter  00:22:32  What was that? The universe doesn't make mistakes. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:33  Yes. Well, I want yeah. I I I don't know if you heard my last question, Noga Schechter  00:22:41  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:42  but I did wanna ask when you when did you realize that you needed to make a change. I know you there was a point you said that you got to three hundred over three hundred pounds. Noga Schechter  00:22:48  Yeah. So I had lost Lorilee Binstock  00:22:54  Was it run then? Noga Schechter  00:22:55  well, so I lost a hundred and fifth fifty pounds with a trainer. And eating all the right foods. That took me about thirteen, fourteen months to do naturally. And then shortly after I found myself about seven months later, gained all of it back plus some. And there was this area. There was a point in my life where I was I was Lorilee Binstock  00:23:26  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:23:30  I was right back to where I started. I was I was eating just to fall asleep. And I remember waking up in the morning one day in the rented apartment I was living in Los Angeles, and I was, like, choking on last night's food. And I remember I lived by the beach, and I and I went to the beach. It was, like, sunset. I don't know if you've ever seen a California sunset. It's gorgeous. It's, like, blue. It can turn blue and purple and orange, and and I was sitting outside. And I said, I had this I I don't wanna call it an aha moment because I hate when people Lorilee Binstock  00:24:10  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:24:12  say that. We're such pro we're everything is such progression. You know? But Lorilee Binstock  00:24:17  Right. Noga Schechter  00:24:18  I I did have this moment where I where I said to myself something else is really wrong here. It's not food. It's not what I'm eating. It's not the exercise. Like, something is wrong way past my ability to understand what is wrong. So that was the moment where I first fully understood that I was in a construct. And and so a lot of the spiritual teachers talk about this. I I I I at this point, I was not under any spiritual guidance or I I would I didn't have a spiritual teacher. This is all just very independent. But I I had realized that the entire way I was processing information was off. The entire identity was off. And it's because I was sitting there, and I and I I remember I had this very spiritual awakening. I was looking at the sunset, and I was looking at how beautiful it was. And then I was I was looking at yeah. I was looking at the sunset. I think my dad texted saying it was snowing in New York. Lorilee Binstock  00:25:41  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:25:42  And then I was looking at the ocean, and I was feeling my pain. And I there were so many different things going on at one time. That I then asked myself if there's so many different things going on at one time in this very moment, how can it be that I suck all the time. How can that be possible? If if the sunset over there is really, really beautiful, and that ocean is really, really beautiful. And my dad is texting me about snow. And there are there are so many different things going on right now. How is it? That no good sector sucks twenty four seven. And I have this moment where I'm like, that's impossible. That's far that's not the truth. So why do I keep thinking it? And then I realized I was sick. My brain was sick. The way I was thinking about things was sick. I I was sick. I when I say sick, I don't mean I'm disease. I'm the problem. I I don't mean in that way. I mean, the tools that were I was separating and the tools that were giving to me to do this whole adult life thing were not the correct tools. Lorilee Binstock  00:26:52  You are suffering. Noga Schechter  00:27:00  And they were harming me. And and and I think that was the first moment where I realized that my eating disease and my eating order and all the way in on my body and all these things that I hated so much about myself, had nothing to do with who I really was. Lorilee Binstock  00:27:16  Right. Noga Schechter  00:27:21  And so I checked myself into that week, I checked myself into an eating disorder facility. With a white flag up all the way to the moon. And I remember walking into that place saying, please teach me how to live. Because I don't I don't know how I don't know how to live. And I Lorilee Binstock  00:27:42  No. Noga Schechter  00:27:48  I haven't been in a sense. Lorilee Binstock  00:27:50  Wow. So how did you change your relationship with food because we are exposed to food all the time. And Noga Schechter  00:27:52  Yeah. Yeah. I just had this conversation with one of my coaches a few weeks ago. It was the best conversation. I think we've both had in a long time. Lorilee Binstock  00:28:07  I'd love to hear it. Noga Schechter  00:28:08  Yeah. I'd love to share it. I think the way to heal this isn't just for eating disorder. This is for anything in life. I think the way to heal is to just become indifferent. To the outcome. And so what do I mean by that? I eliminated all anxiety around food. There is no anxiety around food in my brain anymore. I eat cookies. I eat adjust ate of agave potato chips like twenty minutes ago. I eat pizza. I eat pasta. Of course, I eat healthy most of the time. Right? But I eat healthy most of the time out of the place of self love, not out of the place of anxiety, self hate. Lorilee Binstock  00:28:54  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:29:02  I hate my body. I want my way smaller. I don't do that anymore. So so I I eliminated the entire story around food because the story I had around food was was skewed. It wasn't healthy. So Lorilee Binstock  00:29:17  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:29:19  then I realized I was with this trainer who was trying to pack another story about food. A different story. Like, protein and no carbs at night and you know, like, all that story. And then so so so if you have a broken spirit and then you have a broken story about food on that sits on top of the broken spirit. And then you go seek help, and then you get another broken story to put on top of the broken story, on top of the broken spirit, of course, you're gonna wanna gain your way back. Of course, because now your spirit is double broken. Lorilee Binstock  00:29:59  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:30:04  Right? Because you just you just pour you just packed another story Lorilee Binstock  00:30:05  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:30:09  on top of the broken spirit around food. So what I realized is none of the stories are true. The body knows once you quiet down the anxiety. The body knows exactly what it wants. When it when it needs it, what it wants. It knows exactly what to do. And if it doesn't, if it doesn't, that usually means there's a hormonal imbalance, which is great news, great news because if there's a hormonal imbalance, there's ways to treat that. Lorilee Binstock  00:30:41  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:30:42  Right? But if there's no hormonal imbalance, Lorilee Binstock  00:30:43  Right. Noga Schechter  00:30:45  then the body if once you quiet down all the anxiety and all the stories around food, it knows intuitively exactly what it needs when it needs it. And that's that's the journey I went on because I realized that my spirit was broken. And and it hadn't and and so it was the stories around food that I just had to completely eliminate. And and I I I've spent a decade doing that. Lorilee Binstock  00:31:00  So And how do you change those stories? And is is is that what eliminated the anxiety? Is that the is is eliminating the story exactly what's going to eliminate the anxiety around the food. Noga Schechter  00:31:24  Yeah. I wish it were that simple. I wish. I wish I were that simple. The the stories go away when the body normalizes. So everyone's body every human body has a natural balance. For instance, I'm never gonna do that skinny. It's not no it's not my the nature of my body to do that skinny. It's never gonna happen. And if I if it does happen, I may be abusing myself somehow. Right? Because so the most so so what you wanna do first is just what I did, for instance, is I I just treated all food that it would break down in a certain way. And I I did retrain myself into feeling full. So the feeling of full is something that I used to ignore. So, you know, you wanna get past the point of self harm. And so that takes therapy, Lorilee Binstock  00:32:21  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:32:22  meditation, being present, starting to challenge your thoughts. You know, we talked about the spaghetti, the pulling out, the loathing. Right? So one strands out of time. I was just evaluating things that were great. And then the things that weren't great, instead of hating myself for them, I attached incremental actions on how to essentially fix them, which I'm still doing at thirty nine years old. Lorilee Binstock  00:32:47  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:32:48  I'm still doing it. And so what happens over time is the body normal lives, and then you realize, wait if I eat a slice of pizza, I'm not gonna gain five pounds. That's that's not what happened. Maybe you do for, like, a day because you're bloated or whatever, but that's not what happens. Pizza actually is part of the universe. So here's the truth about pizza. It's part of the universe, and it breaks down in in your body as nutrients. It that's the only truth about pizza. And and your body does need a balance of nutrients if you eat pizza. The body will know if you listen to it that that was a lot of carbs, and you might need it'll it might start to crave some chicken. Mine does. Right? So if I if I'll have pizza a few hours later, Lorilee Binstock  00:33:33  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:33:35  like, clockwork. I'll want some chicken or steak or some kind of protein Lorilee Binstock  00:33:39  Right. Noga Schechter  00:33:40  to balance. But take all of those together, and it breaks down into nutrients in your body. I don't attach the pizza as bad, steak as bad, or only eat potatoes at this hour. I don't do that anywhere. I let my body decide. Lorilee Binstock  00:33:57  So is it So when it came to the trauma, did that is is that part of the strand of Noga Schechter  00:34:02  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:34:06  of working each and every bit of trauma that you've experienced out. Noga Schechter  00:34:14  So with trauma relief and trauma healing, first of all, I'm to go viewing that. So That's like a never ending. Lorilee Binstock  00:34:23  It's a constant right. It's a constant journey. Noga Schechter  00:34:24  It's a constant. And and you and you and I talked about this. Right? Like, it's a constant journey. And and and nobody no. First of all, I do wanna tell if any if anyone is suffering from an eating disorder, I just wanna tell you that's beautiful, great news. Because you're gonna have the best journey of your life or healing, and and and it it's such a guest. It's a different way of living. But when it comes to trauma, you know, sometimes you have it in early life. Sometimes you have it midlife and sometimes you have it later. It's only a matter of when. Right? It's not if. It's what. So Lorilee Binstock  00:35:02  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:35:05  the thing about early life trauma like my like, I have what they call complex trauma because it's not necessarily what what I got. It's what I didn't get. Lorilee Binstock  00:35:13  One event. Noga Schechter  00:35:16  Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:35:17  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:35:19  And and the thing about that is, you know, you your first three years of life, your first, like, you know, decade of life, you're coming in from the spirit world or the animal world, as a newborn baby, and then your guardians are then helping to shape your egoic construct to make you successful or make you give you the ability to do well in the man world the man made world, which is what we live day today. So I lacked those skills. So it wasn't just about, you know, sitting with the pain, processing, the trauma. I was also re engineering how how I am to behave. Right? Like, Lorilee Binstock  00:36:03  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:36:04  my soul knows the truth. How do I take that truth and then integrate it in my day to day? Well, if your parents didn't appreciate you for who you were or didn't let you be who you were, you're gonna be hiding that, and you're gonna be hiding behind these actions that are not true to who you are, and that's when eating starts and the inability to process starts. And so it's also the reverse reengineering of that of going back to almost when I was a child saying, okay. How do I learn now? How to be true to myself? How do I learn if I feel something, if my soul is telling me something, if if I feel spiritually about something, that that's a signal. That that's a signal of who noga is. How do I take that signal and push it out into my day to day? That's the healing of the trauma passed the sit passed the the the healing of the pain. Right? So it kinda comes in two stages. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:05  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:37:08  I can't reiterate enough how much I'm still doing that till this day. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:12  Yeah. Yeah. It is an ongoing journey. It's one of those things that it's, like, you know, three steps forward, two steps back, four steps for. It it Noga Schechter  00:37:16  Yes. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:22  it's constantly changing. I think that's that was a big thing for me to understand. Noga Schechter  00:37:26  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:27  Was that oh, I three steps forward, I failed because that's not how it works. And and I feel like I I feel like people told me that it just never clicked, and then one moment it did click, and it was like, okay. I you know, I'm gonna have setbacks. How am I going to pick myself up? And Noga Schechter  00:37:36  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:49  learn from whatever setbacks. So, you know, the next time, I'm at least four steps forward before I go a couple steps back. Noga Schechter  00:37:57  Yeah. I I I struggle with it too even till this day, but I think the biggest part is I no longer use food to help process those days. Lorilee Binstock  00:38:08  Mhmm. Yes. Noga Schechter  00:38:09  Now I now I sit with the actual feelings, and then I try to integrate into my day, that's that's the the healing of the eating disorder. By the way, on the flip side of the coin, that's the gift. That's the gift because in this life, very few people get an opportunity to live that authentically to learn how to align themselves with the true essence of who they are into their day to day. It's like we we have no choice but to live with intention. Lorilee Binstock  00:38:48  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:38:50  And so I think, you know, I remember being in treatment, and they were like, they gave me this book. I forget the name of it because I just wanted to throw it across the room. Lorilee Binstock  00:38:58  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:38:59  And it was it was, like, something about having an eating disorder as a gift. And I was, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:39:05  Oh, I could see where you'd be like, oh my god. You're not there yet. Right? You're not there yet. Noga Schechter  00:39:06  Like, I'm like, how does it get worse than myth? You know? Wow. It's so true. It's so true because you have, you know, to heal. There's no choice but authenticity. Like, I can't even I can't even work Lorilee Binstock  00:39:22  Right. Noga Schechter  00:39:25  on things I don't believe in. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:28  That's a good thing. Noga Schechter  00:39:28  I can't I can't even have a job or, like, I don't wing So everything has to be true because the the thing about overeating or restricting or anything along those lines is that is the last piece, as I mentioned before, it's the last piece of the problem. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:39:45  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:39:46  So So it's a it's been a gift. You know? But the the weight came off a second time through this the the spiritual healing. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:58  And it stayed off. Noga Schechter  00:39:58  And oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Now I exercise every day. I exercise Lorilee Binstock  00:40:02  That's the thing. Noga Schechter  00:40:05  every day. That's it. That's crazy. If you were to tell me ten years ago that I would be waking up every morning at four thirty to make a five AM hit class, I would I would have called you the biggest lawyer in the world, and it's it's interesting. All the anxiety around exercise has gone too. Like, I don't I don't wake up saying, oh, I don't feel like going to the gym. I don't wake up saying, oh, I have to go work out. I don't do any of that. I I wake up and I go, okay. It's time to get up. My body needs to needs some energy. Let's go give it some energy. Lorilee Binstock  00:40:43  Mhmm. Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:40:46  You know? It's Lorilee Binstock  00:40:48  It's it's it's it's interesting how things change when you start to heal, and I think it's it's hilarious what you said about the book when you first got it because you're still in the beginning of the journey. It's like when I was driving in through the gate, at my residential treatment center for trauma. Noga Schechter  00:41:03  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:05  It says, expect a miracle to the front, and it was it's this big sign. Noga Schechter  00:41:09  Oh, oh, that's the you're like, are you crazy? Lorilee Binstock  00:41:10  And I was just like, oh, exactly. Noga Schechter  00:41:13  Like, miracle your way over to the Atlantic Ocean. Okay. Like, Lorilee Binstock  00:41:19  Yep. It was it I I read I will never forget thinking what is whatever. And then leaving when I left was when I was, like, I get it now. I get it now. This is what it's like to start healing. I was there for thirty one days, Noga Schechter  00:41:31  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:35  and Noga Schechter  00:41:35  Oh, you were. Okay. Can I okay? Let me ask you a question. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:36  I was there for Noga Schechter  00:41:39  I wonder if you relate to this, but Lorilee Binstock  00:41:41  Yes. Noga Schechter  00:41:43  Do you look back do you look back at treatment and and tell yourself everyone should do this? Lorilee Binstock  00:41:51  I do. I do. I do. I I feel very fortunate that I was able to, and, you know, I'm careful because Noga Schechter  00:41:55  Right. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:58  I, you know, I wish I could tell everybody, and and insurance does cover it for the most part, but there are a lot of people who can't afford it. Right? So, you know, no. When I got out, I was like, oh my gosh. Whenever I knew someone whenever I talked to someone who is struggling, like, you need to check this place out. Noga Schechter  00:42:05  Right. Right. Totally. Totally. Lorilee Binstock  00:42:15  It's it's it's not cheap. If if insurance won't cover it, it is it's real it Noga Schechter  00:42:16  Right. Right. Right. It's it's astronomical. It kinda makes you wonder Lorilee Binstock  00:42:21  but everyone needs it. Noga Schechter  00:42:23  it yeah. And it just makes you wonder how lacking that education and that's you know, Lorilee Binstock  00:42:28  Exactly. Noga Schechter  00:42:29  it's just so lacking. You know, even till this day, I just found a coach who's probably the best coach I've ever had in my life. Okay? It's taking me thirty nine years to find them in, like, thirteen cities. Right? Like, so so we have to search through the crevices to to get to sometimes get the treatment that we need. And that that makes me sad. Lorilee Binstock  00:42:54  And it does. It's very sad. I went to I went to a step down program Noga Schechter  00:42:55  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:42:59  right after. Right? I went to full residential treatment, and then I had to go somewhere else for a partial hospitalization to kind of just wean my way out of it. Noga Schechter  00:43:07  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:43:09  And it wasn't the same. I I I was like, you know, no. I went to this place, and I was like, Noga Schechter  00:43:11  No. No. It's not. Lorilee Binstock  00:43:16  if I went here first, I would not be where I am now. So that's another thing. You have to weave through the hundreds and thousands of treatment centers out there, and I think that's also the hard part because then you spend your money on a place, Noga Schechter  00:43:25  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:43:33  that is that you it gets decent reviews and good reviews even, but your it doesn't really fully teach you what some others do. Noga Schechter  00:43:44  Okay. Yeah. I think you know the the other tricky part about all this is that it's so individualized, and everybody has different needs. You know? And and so, like, I can generalize Lorilee Binstock  00:43:52  Right. Noga Schechter  00:43:55  a hundred times over and over, but everybody gets different things from different places. And I think we just I, for some reason, you know, I'm a very, very spiritual person. I mean, to the tenth power. This whole process has made me believe in the universe. You know, I believe if you were to see my before picture and you were to see me now, it's not a typical before and after. I look absolutely nothing like I did. Lorilee Binstock  00:44:25  What what happens? Noga Schechter  00:44:26  That's, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:44:27  I'm just curious. What happens when you look back at those the old your old photos of you? Because they're they are drastic, and I am going I I'll try to put it up. I'm gonna try to put it up on the thing. But Noga Schechter  00:44:28  Yeah. I don't eat. It is plastic. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:44:37  how do you feel when you look at those older pictures? Noga Schechter  00:44:40  Interesting question. I just I don't even remember those times. Because I was in so much pain all the time. It it just it scared my ability to even, like, have that much of a memory. Lorilee Binstock  00:45:05  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:45:05  I just know that the biggest changes that were made the the one thing I would do think about is that the biggest changes that were made from them to now were not physical. They were not concentrated on food. Or exercise. They were concentrated on finding my truth, connecting with my soul, working on building better friendships, working on on on a construct, like, when we say, you know, the some of the tech geeks out there or people have to say sometimes we're it could be we're in a simulation. We are in a simulation. You're in the simulation of your ego. So so so when I look back when I look back at those photos, Lorilee Binstock  00:45:49  I'm just saying, yeah. Noga Schechter  00:45:53  I just think of all the work I've done reconstructing every aspect of my life, one at a time, and down to I mean, how I how I think about movies and what TV shows I watch, and there's specific music I stopped listening to. Like, certain clothes I won't buy. Like, there's just things that like, I just say, what supports my best self? And and though when I look back at that picture, I think about how different that journey was in comparison to eat this, eat that here at your plan, go to the gym twice a day, see the trainer four times a week, spend all your money on. You know? It's so different. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:40  Well, Noga Schechter  00:46:41  Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:42  what a transformation? I think it's It's amazing. Noga Schechter  00:46:44  Uh-huh. Thank you. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:46  More so emotionally and mentally, which is so impressive, Noga Schechter  00:46:49  Yeah. Thank you. I'm impressed with you. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:51  and so so much to be proud of. Noga Schechter  00:46:54  I'm impressed with you and your podcast and your and your insider magazine and the fact that you let people speak about these things Lorilee Binstock  00:46:54  Oh, you're so sweet. Noga Schechter  00:47:02  I wish we had more outlets. I wish people knew that it's totally okay to be going through this stuff so many people do. And I think the more we speak about it, the better it is for others. Lorilee Binstock  00:47:12  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a in my upcoming magazine, there was a contributor, Rachel Lemmon, who writes about vicarious resilience. The more you listen to other people or see other people's resilience, it builds a little bit of resilience in yourself to help you get to that point. So, yes, we need to keep talking. We need to keep sharing these stories. I think it's extremely important to help so many other people. So thank you. Nope. Noga Schechter  00:47:45  I agree. Oh, with pleasure. With pleasure. I just wish anybody that's going through this knows that It's an absolute gift, and only the the only only the best is yet to come. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:00  Amazing. Well, thank you again for joining me today. I really appreciate it. Noga Schechter  00:48:05  Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. Have a great rest of day. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:08  Absolutely. You too. Noga Schechter  00:48:11  Okay. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:11  That was Noga Shector, mental health and disordered eating advocate. For more information on Noga, you can click there on the scrolling fortune cookie on your screen. Also, Mace issue of Authentic Insiders is out. Check out authentic Insiders at trauma survivor thriver dot com. That's trauma survivor, thriver dot com. If you haven't already, please subscribe to my email list to get authentic insider in magazine in your inbox monthly. Thank you for joining me today. Join me live next week when I speak with Kenneth Nixon Jr. Author of Born into Chaos as he shares his experience with a mother who was mentally ill and how he thinks the mental health care system can be fixed. You've been listening to a trauma survivor Thrivers podcast on Fireside. I'm Laura Lee, Ben Stock. 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