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This is a LIVE replay of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, June 7th, 2023 at 11:30am ET on Fireside Chat. Today's guest is Jessica Depatie, Executive Producer of Dark Night of Our Soul. For more information about Jessica Depatie's work, visit https://www.shadowmedia.group/links. Lorilee Binstock  00:00:35  Welcome. I'm Lorilee Binstock and this is A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me live on Fireside chat where you can be a part of the conversation as my virtual audience. I am your host. Flor then stock. Everyone has an opportunity to ask me or our guest questions by requesting to hop on stage, but I do ask that everybody be respect Today's guest is Jessica Defeats executive producer of dark of our soul. She's also the host of shadow work library podcast. And she's is actually a shadow work educator, Jessica, thank you so much. For joining me today. Oh, I think I actually pop you off stage. Are you there? Jessica Depatie  00:01:39  Hi. Can you hear me? Lorilee Binstock  00:01:40  Hi. Yeah I could hear you. How are you? Thank you so much for joining me today. Jessica Depatie  00:01:46  Thank you so much for having me and what's cool off where I'm all about this. Lorilee Binstock  00:01:50  I know it it's actually really, really cool. You people can pop in and pop out and and listen to replay and join in on the conversation, which I really love because I I feel like a lot of people are interested in and taught and talking to a lot of my guests about you know, things that are this that they're doing how people are healing. And you you are a shadow work educator, which I think is really cool. And so I wanna learn more about that, but I also wanna know a little bit about your story and what got you into this work. Jessica Depatie  00:02:19  Okay. Great. So wow where do we start? You know, it's interesting that we're having this conversation on your show, the trauma survivor podcast because my story isn't that remarkable, but I think it's a common I I think that's why it's worth sharing. The lack of Lorilee Binstock  00:02:38  Absolutely. Jessica Depatie  00:02:40  extravagant around it, and more the the universal story that Lorilee Binstock  00:02:47  Yep. Jessica Depatie  00:02:47  everybody has trauma, you know, and the documentary that we're working on right now, one of the experts, Anderson Todd, who is the assistant director of wisdom and consciousness studies out of you know, received Toronto. He says nobody gets out of the parking lot without putting dungeon in the car. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:03:02  I saw. Jessica Depatie  00:03:04  And so... That is that is my story. Lorilee Binstock  00:03:05  That was I was like that's so accurate. Jessica Depatie  00:03:07  Yeah. And so my story. Is basically growing up I felt like there was a purpose to the trials that I would put myself in, You know? A lot of the traumatic experiences that when my experience happen to us. And it's kind of a fabric the fabric of our human experience. You know, challenges happen. And some are very remarkable in some, like mine are just like, you know, my mom was she's Korean, and she felt strange in a new country, And I adopted that feeling strange but in my own country, you know? And so the traumatic experience that I had was having a really strong platform that I'm Lorilee Binstock  00:04:00  Mhmm Jessica Depatie  00:03:58  not accepted that I am rejected and I would put myself in a lot of situations where I would reject people before it they rejected me, and that was a coping mechanism that I learned later on, by Yeah. For me, was some pretty severe bullying and like, isolation from about the fourth grade, the eighth grade and crystal it myself that I'm weird. I'm unwanted And so Yeah. I just realized in that experience now looking in hindsight and having that really affect me as an adult. I needed to look at what is this? You know? There aren't... There weren't a ton of resources. I Didn't even think I needed a resource. To resolve that. And so that's how I started getting into shadow work. Because as I grew up, got in high school god university. I then realized that I am intentionally putting myself into these situations are harmful for myself. Why am I doing that? Because I'm definitely learning from all these experiences of and is this the way to learn is obstacle really the way? Is there a silver lining to of this? So that's what I've been exploring. Basically, as my life's work since Lorilee Binstock  00:05:09  that's fascinating. You know, that's really interesting. You say, you no, it's not that extravagant, you know, your life story, but your story is Jessica Depatie  00:05:16  Right. Lorilee Binstock  00:05:16  so many other people's stories. I feel like a lot of people you know, where I And in tell many different ways, feel isolated. They feel like an outsider. And they feel different, and that makes them feel weird. And, you know, I've I felt like that as well. I'm a I'm a child of imagery immigrant parent. And it did it did feel. You know, I I grew up in Jacksonville, Florida. And I at that time, there there want a lot of other Filipino in where I live I live by the beach. And so I didn't realize that I would Jessica Depatie  00:05:51  Well Lorilee Binstock  00:05:53  I was different until, you know, Jessica Depatie  00:05:59  eva. Lorilee Binstock  00:05:56  it was pointed out to me and then I was like, oh, I I'm different. I didn't realize that. So I feel like there are people, especially, you know, in fourth grade. That, you know, that feel different, but they don't know why. And I I've I I'm so fascinated. When did you feel? When you were an adult, when you needed to explore this, And how did you decide, like, okay, I'm gonna do shadow work is there someone that you met or you talk to? Who introduce you to this. Jessica Depatie  00:06:27  So I would say when I was younger, I went in a really locked into an observer period. Lorilee Binstock  00:06:36  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:06:35  When might call that dis, but it was very top down experience of my own life. And constantly thinking, like, what is wrong with me that people don't wanna talk to me? At this point right now, I know that it was my own platform, and that I like, created that existence for myself. As a kid, you know, I'm just, like, why am I so weird? Like, what is up with this? And having every lunch but I was just, like, tread research Lorilee Binstock  00:07:00  Mm-mm. Jessica Depatie  00:06:59  adding lunch because I'd have to sit by myself and all of that. And just constantly thinking, like, there's something wrong with me. I have to figure this out. I have to figure this out. So when I went to a different school, in high school. Like, I'm going to be different. I know I'm an extra extroverted person. I know that I can have conversations with people. I know that I'm another version of myself in there somewhere that I have and given myself the option to be Lorilee Binstock  00:07:24  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:07:27  Right? But in doing that, I I hadn't I didn't have any tools. I didn't have any friends and I couldn't or he didn't wanna talk to my parents about it because I wanted them to be proud of me I didn't wanna Lorilee Binstock  00:07:41  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:07:39  tell them that, you know I'm suffering, and I'm like, lonely and all these things the had pride. Right? And so all I had with myself. And with a lack of tools and resources. I turn to drinking So that's kinda of how I got into high school, and to give myself some credit, I did learn quite a bit around social social cues, like socializing my myself in that Lorilee Binstock  00:08:01  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:08:03  But also, with that, I developed a habit of needing booze to access as part of myself. And so with that habit, it followed me into university Again, not a very remarkable story. And I I keep highlighting that because Lorilee Binstock  00:08:20  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:08:18  it's is normalized to drink a lot in college and through high school, but it really isn't. It doesn't have to be that way. And I think these younger generate the ones that are going through it right now, they're understanding that they know more than we did back in the day. Lorilee Binstock  00:08:29  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:08:31  Which is so amazing. But back of my day, you know, like, what did I graduate? You ever university seen, like, ten or so. That was a standard, you know, blocking out every weekend. Was not uncommon. Lorilee Binstock  00:08:40  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:08:43  Right. Lorilee Binstock  00:08:44  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:08:44  Problem. My mom is super psychic. She just me sure So Lorilee Binstock  00:08:50  Oh, that's tiffany. Jessica Depatie  00:08:53  Yeah. I got to a point where I was graduating university I was starting a corporate career and the Salesforce that I joined was really old like, nineties sales floor, everybody in shoes real cool fun hustle, lots of money And with that, drugs alcohol were a thing, but I looked I had the awareness somehow at that point. To be, like, if people are not happy. You know, I'm not trying to be at this company for the next five years and turn into this. And, like, no shade, but not we're trying to go So I realized, like, I'm the only one I can save my myself from this. I haven't created, like, a full on alcohol addiction. You know, I'm like, a weekend warrior. I justify a lot of these things I know I can pull my thought self out of it. So I really dove into what I know now is shadow work, but before was just the exploration, this cultivating of my own experience and pulling myself out having the before I would do the thing, to understand more about about what it is I'm doing. Right? And so that opened me up to a whole world of of shadow work of things like even astrology, which I got really into, which was super helpful to understand my own experience in terms of archetype energies that one's working with. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:15  Mm-mm. Jessica Depatie  00:10:16  Looking into young, even and see what else came up. The taro taro is really interesting. You know? I mean, Lorilee Binstock  00:10:24  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:10:25  look at it from a destination standpoint, which a lot of people wouldn't have subscribe to. But if you look at it just from an type perspective and seeing how your life relate to the images that come. It can be a really great way to expand your consciousness. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:38  Yes. I have this my my husband's grandmother, Jessica Depatie  00:10:43  What Lorilee Binstock  00:10:42  reads tear cards, and she reads mine every once in a while. It's really. It's really fun. I'm like, yes. I'm I'm like, I need it. I need I I need a couple hours with her to do that though because she she she loves to go on, and it's she's really fascinating. Yes. I do love love with you tear. Something I actually saw going through your Instagram feed, Jessica Depatie  00:11:04  Good Lorilee Binstock  00:11:04  I I mean, You know, I was stocking. But I I noticed that you did a lot of work in campbell. I Jessica Depatie  00:11:08  Yeah. Yeah. So in this whole exploration of, like, testing the human experience because, you know, Now so back in the day, I put myself in a lot of dangerous situation and I learned from them. And and when doing it unintentionally, I say intention but I just mean, I put myself there. I didn't have a lot of experiences that happened at me or to me. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:11:31  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:11:33  I was a creator of my own experience in the very like textbook way. Show in this days of life, where I pulled myself out of the mug out of the trial and air portion. I'm like, okay. How can I actually intentionally test my edges? Of the human experience of my own experience in a way that I've gotten pretty good at doing. I'm I feel very comfortable in the unknown and well to extent and with ambiguity. And so combo, which is for anyone listening that they're not aware of what it is. It's a secretion from a frog that leave it down in South America. And you it was traditionally used for hunting. It's a non psychedelic medicine, and they will harvest the excretion from this frog in a very gentle way so it doesn't create the animal. And then you do several superficial burns into the top layer of your skin. So you're not going into the bloodstream. Very quick little and then you know a facilitator apply this medicine to these burns sites they call gave. And in that experience, it it's really hard. It's like, it cleans out your lymphatic but the feeling sense of it is getting really, really sick. Lorilee Binstock  00:12:51  Mhmm Jessica Depatie  00:12:52  Like if you like getting the flu in the worst way possible for about ten minutes. So it's really short. Most people will purge out of their mouse trail lab. And you're fasting. So you're just throwing up a liquid and need to drink a certain amount of before, or you'll go to the bathroom later or you'll sweat. There are a lot of different ways of purge shake. You might cry. And show, like, why would you even wanna do that? If it's a non losing genetic and you just feel sick? What is the point other than clean with that system. Well, Lorilee Binstock  00:13:23  Tell me more. Jessica Depatie  00:13:24  Yeah. Right. But there's more I promise that just like stuck. It created kind of psychological billion. You know, it and in doing that, to magic of event all the clears out your brain of a lot of the the Bs that's been stuck there. It's like, it's like bio ten hours of meditation in ten minutes. Lorilee Binstock  00:13:45  Mm-mm Jessica Depatie  00:13:48  Now you feel it. It's not a good time, but afterwards, so much clarity in so much space has created between the things that you thought were problems and you're body. So would okay did... Just kind of close the loop on that experience night and embodied kind of practice to go through because it really ground into the present moment. So a lot of times, people will do con before they go into ceremony. For something like Eye because you can be really nervous going into something like that. Know, you have all these things millions intentions, all these fears, which are Lorilee Binstock  00:14:22  Right. Jessica Depatie  00:14:20  perfectly normal because it's such a powerful momentum to work with. Combo and really great thing to do before because it clears you out bringing the present moment, and it can give you that grounded in. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:14:33  Now. Amazing. Yeah. I I'm a huge job for Alex. I I really credit Jessica Depatie  00:14:43  Yeah Lorilee Binstock  00:14:43  it alex to my own personal healing. I'm a childhood sexual abuse survivor. And so for the longest time, I had no idea what yeah what was wrong with me. I just knew something, you know, I thought, like, okay. Oh, there's a point where I was by diagnosed by bipolar. And I was on, like, lithium and all these medications for, like, ten years, and then I was, like, someone talk to me about Ptsd and sexual abuse, and I was like, If you're not a soldier, you still can get Ptsd. Like, I don't understand. So tell me more. And and then I realized, like, oh I've been struggling with Ptsd. I went to treatment. I just so happened to meet several people in the psychedelic underground and they had helped to me so much in and really understanding. And I think this is where kinda of the shadow work right. You just Jessica Depatie  00:15:34  Oh, Lorilee Binstock  00:15:36  kind of go into the dark places of your soul. Where you... If you are able to experience it or or face it. Is that it would you say that's where post traumatic growth grows from Jessica Depatie  00:15:50  Yeah. That's that's a really good question. So oh, gosh. We're do gonna start with that? So your... Your acknowledgement and the Ptsd is really interesting. You know, it it's Lorilee Binstock  00:16:07  Great. Jessica Depatie  00:16:04  it's interesting to think about a time where that didn't exist. Pdf and a function is always the included, but the name for it, The recognition of it didn't really come about until, like, their late seventies. So a super reset. And interestingly, post traumatic growth was also scientifically typically named and more discovered at the same time. No. You can imagine why Ptsd really took off in terms of acknowledgement versus the growth aspect of it, which I'll get into a second. Which is probably, you know, if I wanna get, like, real talk about it. It it's if you make money keeping people sick. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:16:46  Yep. Jessica Depatie  00:16:48  And show, hey, something quote that happens to you. You have Ptsd here's diagnosis. Now the benefit of that is clearly these are things that we need to know about because Pt is very, very real. Super real. Right? And also the the acknowledgement that word, but, you know, whatever, like, not the the possible psychological benefit of going through the hard thing. With a sense of agency with the right resources. Is just here as possible because then, you know, maybe you can relate to this when you're diagnosed with something. It that can be crystallize your identity. Lorilee Binstock  00:17:30  Mhmm Jessica Depatie  00:17:32  And so as we've picked up the torch on exploring post traumatic growth again. One of the things that we learned very early on is Ptsd and post growth, Pt, happen up can happen at the same time, You know, growth in the linear. Lorilee Binstock  00:17:49  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:17:49  And what is growth even? That with a huge huge question. That we had to answer if we wanted to create documentary around growth. These definitions that are really difficult to explore. First of all, what is leaving trauma? And what is gross? We know post it after Lorilee Binstock  00:18:07  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:18:07  But trauma. Right? There were so many people with different explanations of what it is. Lorilee Binstock  00:18:13  Yes. Jessica Depatie  00:18:12  And you've heard things like big trauma and little trauma. You know, but it's almost like we give a we put them on a scale, like, little trauma isn't as important as a big t trauma. Well, if it's important to you, you know paint a pain, Lorilee Binstock  00:18:25  Right. Jessica Depatie  00:18:26  Right? And that was something that I still... Like, I even started off this conversation by saying, Oh, my story. Isn't that interesting. Lorilee Binstock  00:18:34  Great. Jessica Depatie  00:18:34  But they knew, it was very interesting. You know? To me, it set my life on a trajectory that I'm very grateful for. But would have been completely different if it didn't exist. And So when we add a a ranking system, to trauma. I think that's when people can sort of check out of that word. They don't like to associate with it because I'm not a victim or nothing really bad happened to me I might be suffering. I might have full blown and Ptsd, but I don't acknowledge it because you know, I don't have Lorilee Binstock  00:19:06  Right. Jessica Depatie  00:19:05  this crazy story. And so the best definition of trauma that we heard came from again, Anderson Todd. Who talked about trauma as a kind of like, when trust is broken, Lorilee Binstock  00:19:22  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:19:22  you know, I trust, and I'm gonna go through so subconsciously my childhood. Being safe. Your example, I I subconsciously trust I'm not gonna be sexually abused that the people that are around me care for me, you know, And sure they may be doing their best and they're they're dealing with life and whatever way possible, but they're not gonna do something that horrible to me. Trusting broken in that when dad tells you she's gonna pick you up from Doctor Pat or be at your soccer game. And he doesn't go over and over and over again. That is can be traumatic, You know? Lorilee Binstock  00:19:53  That it. Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:19:55  Little whatever. But then I become a I can't trust my dad. I can't trust men. I can't trust myself. And so that definition was really helpful moving forward. And then when we talked about grove. Well, the that majority I would actually everybody that was in the documentary also has Ptsd. Right We have veterans that have had long careers are seeing things that no... None of us will ever see we have you know, murder attempt survivors and they still get triggered by things. Right? They still feel serious lows. They still feel like, things are at times unbearable But the way that growth works in the way that we've to find it is an extension of consciousness, which is senior your experience from many different perspectives being able to feel into life. In a very full way. And know was one of the interesting things about this whole thing is that growth doesn't look like the way a lot of people might or conventional wisdom. My say is. It's not necessarily affiliated with achievement. And success and being happy all the time. Lorilee Binstock  00:21:07  Right. Jessica Depatie  00:21:08  Because we're be asking people that have lived experiences of post matter growth that are now of service. They have turned their message into a message more or less. A have, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:21:14  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:21:17  how many deep appreciation for life, they have meaning and they can see meaning and little things that a lot of people that haven't acknowledged the adversity in their life had created more wisdom and all these things, you know, strength, these people that have really identified I push about a growth person. They feel everything. So there's this level of sensitivity as well that like, in not so productive sometimes. You know to go through life like that. But when you have to be do people be level in, which they can feel their high on their lows. They're here for all of it. That one of the things that when we look at the way so work today. Not totally designed for that kind of person. But they wouldn't have it any other way. You know, to be able to have these conversations with people like you. That are affecting positively, so many people that have gone through traumatic experiences you know, if you didn't go through that, then maybe they wouldn't be healing, you know? So there's a out fact of of working with the material that you've been presented in your past life. In a way that is and four, like, the higher good of of future generations. And so that's really... Actually, the whole note that we end on in the documentary is and then the controversial, and it's tricky to say, without a lot of context, but we ask the question. Is it a moral responsibility to acknowledge your trauma to do the shadow work to go into the dark plane to reclaim the pieces of yourself that's been fragmented. You know? Because when we look at the long list of social issues and environmental issues and all the things. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:23:01  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:23:03  We can see that the answers are to them. Are very short sighted. Now why is that? You know, it's likely because the people that are making these decisions, the policymakers makers politicians to educators, parents, anybody who has any kind of influence we all have something that if we're not doing the inner work, what manifests as our outer life's work, the decisions we make how we show open in the world only have... It has a limitation. So perhaps it is our more responsibility you really look at the things that have happened to us and for us so I wanted to be cliche about it. For future generation. Lorilee Binstock  00:23:44  I absolutely. I love that question. I I and for me, the answer is yes. Right? I feel that you know, you know in in my June issue of authentic insider, a woman writes about by curious resilience. And I feel like when you hear other people's stories when you, you know, other other people it helped other people want to start healing because to be honest, before I actually started my healing journey, I'm I'm like, If you told me about post traumatic growth, I thought I would think you were full of shit. Jessica Depatie  00:24:20  No. Lorilee Binstock  00:24:22  Like, no. This is my life. This is who I am. Now I'm supposed to be sad a lot of most of my life and this is this is it. Because I had just it just couldn't. I could not understand anything other than what I was living in. Until I hit, like, rock bottom, and then I had to go into treatment. But it was I feel like once I actually explore, I like really, really try to resist exploring those dark places. I never in twenty twenty. At, twenty twenty was the first time he even, like, utter the word Jessica Depatie  00:25:00  Mm-mm Lorilee Binstock  00:24:59  sexual abuse. And I think for for me, as it pertain to mean because I was sexually abused by my father, which has its own you know, layers of Jessica Depatie  00:25:09  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:25:11  shit. You don't wanna go into. But it was... One time is able to go into it though. Once I was able to talk about it, the first time I actually talked about in a group of people they were like, they came to a couple of them came to me, and the really like that actually happened to me. I haven't talked about it. Even though they had been in this treatment center that I was in for probably a month longer than I was. When they were able to start talking about what happened to them, and then that was when, like, their healing process and their ability to move out of this treatment center. Started accelerating. So it was... It's it's I do believe that there is once we've gone to this place once we've achieved post growth, I guess, I feel like, yes. There there's there's a responsibility there. To tell your story But that's just me. Jessica Depatie  00:26:04  Thank you so much for sharing that. That is like, a really remarkable story of so of resilient, you know, and I'm so glad that you brought up hitting your rock bottom and that being the thing that that woke you up to the kind of work. You know, what's interesting about that is a lot of people are living in a like, a lot of people don't hit a kind of rock bottom that wakes them up. Lorilee Binstock  00:26:30  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:26:31  Which I think why a lot of people do like delegate, like, I just have this hovering dirt cloud of Lorilee Binstock  00:26:38  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:26:38  a shit. Getting mean like, this feeling of you know, unpleasant. That's just covering around. And so maybe can work, and it shows you Lorilee Binstock  00:26:46  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:26:47  all the things you've been tolerated. Right? Is show your you'll you can feel like your at rock bottom in a way that you've facilitated for yourself. And I think that that is one of the flaws in our in the way anxiety is and it built today is, like, there's so many ways to distract you from having a rock Lorilee Binstock  00:27:04  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:27:07  got a moment. So people that, like yourself, and a lot of people that I've talk to in the research of this project. They have really, like, intense traumatic experience that the rock bottoms that the hit are remarkable. Right? They can experience the post traumatic growth and also, then remarkable ways because they've seen a version of themselves. They've that is unbearable. Lorilee Binstock  00:27:30  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:27:33  Right? Now for your I don't know. I guess you're get average person. Still having traumatic experience but, you know, I can distract myself with Netflix or shopping or working out or all these things or dating apps or jumping from relationship to relationship. Lorilee Binstock  00:27:52  Right Jessica Depatie  00:27:51  So I never feel that rock bottom. You know, all this convenience that we have in our life. That is supposed to keep us quote happy, but just keep those more or less from experiencing that dark night of our soul, And that's not to see that we don't see hints of it. We don't see hints of you know, laying in Bed at night, mean, like, what is what is all of that? Got a change, but then, you know, maybe I'll literally listen into a podcast to go to sleep into having these thoughts. Lorilee Binstock  00:28:16  Right. Jessica Depatie  00:28:16  So, you know, the title, the documentary night of Our is called action more or less. To stop distracting yourself and to just contemplate what is hiding in your own underworld? So that you don't have to hit a rock bottom. Because, you know, we can keep them hovering and employment pleasant our whole lives and the rock bottom might be, and I hate to be the girl talk about it. But, you know, when we're older, hopefully, we get to that point living a long life. Being the deathbed bed and that being perhaps you rock about a moment of, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:28:52  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:28:50  I should've have... I should've have looked at all that. You know, I I I had all these relationships that were right there in front of my face, but I was not able to love enough because I wasn't able to, like, reclaim the person of myself that made me feel like me again maybe feel like me for the first time. Period. Lorilee Binstock  00:29:06  Yeah. Yeah. When I say Jessica Depatie  00:29:11  So... Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:29:13  go. Go ahead. Jessica Depatie  00:29:14  Just gonna conclude there that And, even when I say this, I get a little bit emotional because I really feel the impact of this work. Lies on our generation shoulders. Lorilee Binstock  00:29:28  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:29:28  You know, because we're coming to a present around like, the level of depression that the world, like on a global scale don't have the number, but it's like, Lorilee Binstock  00:29:42  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:29:41  a lot of people, you know, it's like, one in three people and we'll have some kind of diagnosing mental disorder that can be preventable by I think looking at some of the material that has created these coping mechanisms that have then become visual. I mean, we even look at hoard, there's something like eighteen million orders just in the at. I don't know if that number is true or not. But that's that is wondering specific. Like manifestation of a group of people that have perhaps unresolved trauma you know, that just the numbers are huge, and when we look at the ways that we are coping through consumer in them, it's destroying our planet and I don't know what the timeline is for that. But you know, what world are we leaving for our kids? So... Yeah. The this field like it feels like important work. Lorilee Binstock  00:30:35  If it is an important work, I absolutely agree. And, you know, going back to, you know, this idea of like, little key trauma. Right? I feel like people the majority of people who just kind of live in that Jessica Depatie  00:30:50  Oh, Lorilee Binstock  00:30:50  space of... I'm just dealing and dealing and dealing. I feel like they've dealt with little trauma and because they have dealt with big g trauma, they don't think that there's anything that they need to explore. And I think that that's also why we need to make people more aware that, like, little t trauma is trauma. And and not exploring it. Can be a problem. And, yeah... It's so easy to distract herself like you said with so much And, you know, for me, I I I just couldn't right? I had children that were triggering me. Never it was just like, oh my gosh. My daughter is reminding me of of these moments that I don't wanna relive and I need just need to go away. But Jessica Depatie  00:31:35  mhmm Lorilee Binstock  00:31:37  you know, what's nice about being able to have also know going back to what we were talking about exploring, you know, is it our responsibility to explore those dark places. I really feel it, like, if I didn't, I don't know what would be there for my daughter. Because my daughter, my son, I... I think my son benefited to the most the youngest, so he's see me... He's been with me more since my healing, my daughter has seen both sides of me and it's been really, you know, I can see how it's been difficult quote for her. Like, my son can Jessica Depatie  00:32:06  Mhmm Lorilee Binstock  00:32:10  is is I feel like ken easily, you know, take a breath, and my daughter is more like me. You know, prior to treatment when, you know, if my husband was to say, you can you take a breath? Can you breathe? I'd be like, yep. I don't want to. You know? So that... You know, because that's who I was. I was very much a I like, no. I nothing's gonna help. Leave me alone. And then, you know, coming out of treatment, it was like, this this is stuff that actually works when I was... When I was at my treatment center, they actually we they did bio and you can see, like, what breathing action we did when you actually took deep breaths and you saw, like, your you your energy. It was just... It was amazing. And it would... It made it more concrete for me to help my children Jessica Depatie  00:32:57  mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:32:59  be able to manage these stress by simply taking a breath or really talking about what happened. Jessica Depatie  00:33:08  Oh, Lorilee Binstock  00:33:08  In their day. And I think Yeah. It's just just exploring it that way and being okay with sharing, like, the bad stuff and being okay with it. Jessica Depatie  00:33:16  Oh, for sure, You know, like, having kids, I I don't have any kids myself, but talking to you one of the other experts in our film, Doctor Tru who's the resilience researcher. And he was talking about the the other things we often talk about Trauma think Lorilee Binstock  00:33:37  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:33:36  that are bad. Right? But they can also be things that are good but you're different on the other side of it. You know? Having kids is a really great example of that, having children can be dramatic. Like, just changing in her whole life, you know? Lorilee Binstock  00:33:50  Yes. Jessica Depatie  00:33:51  And things That didn't bother you before you know, are, like, all of a sudden important and require attention and things used enjoy, the whole snow globe of your brain gets chuck. Shaken up. Winning the lottery is another good example. A lot people win the lottery that's good. Lorilee Binstock  00:34:11  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:34:07  Can be also be out there's like a whole bunch of other things that pop up as a result of that. And to your point about, you know, your relationship with your daughter being a little bit different than your relationship to your son. Would I wanted to also add in there around this moral responsibility do the work? It is it also saying that it's not your responsibility or it's not a you should heal because it that that's where things get tricky. You know? Lorilee Binstock  00:34:37  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:34:37  Okay. To be somebody's bad day. Because this is... Like, we have to subscribe in some way to surrendering to the way life plays out like, things will make sense at some point. You know? The weird part of this complex fabric of the way the universe is tied together. So we can look at like, my mom, for example, she after starting this work, she was feeling like a lot of shame around her themselves. And by transferring her own unresolved trauma on me, you know, this sense of unacceptable and rejection. That I talk about often when I go podcast and on my own show, and she's like, god I if I just Lorilee Binstock  00:35:27  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:35:28  have worked on that earlier in my life because she's working on it now. You wouldn't have that You wouldn't have to go through any of this. I'm, like, public. Lorilee Binstock  00:35:34  Oh. Jessica Depatie  00:35:35  Yeah. I did I did suffer but I'm so grateful for the way that I dealt with that and the other the bit of agency that you did in still me that I can change because that's one of the big things around this kind of work. Sense of agency. You know, I did I wouldn't be doing this at all. I don't know where I'd be. What I'd be doing that I love what I do now. You know so we can look at our children, let's say, you know, for anybody listening that at has had a two phases life? You know, one child experienced a version that you were proud of Lorilee Binstock  00:36:05  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:36:08  you know? But that can turn into something remarkable that we have no idea. To the only thing I think... Well, I don't think this is from research post growth research. That has come out of the wave of Covid, considering the whole world went through a collective trauma in many different facets, whether that was extreme family deaths, of fear of government you know, control, like, any way, which way people are different on the other side of this. Right? It comes up with conversation often. Families are looking a lot different. The way people go out public can be different. A lot of friendships were dissolved for different, you know, value noncitizens that were conflicting that just weren't able to be resolved. So this new wave of research has shown that Okay. Is what set somebody up for post traumatic growth. You know, what can we help instill in our children? If they are going through it art are are going to go through it because we all kinda do Lorilee Binstock  00:37:04  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:37:07  There's no difference in extra version or introversion really the benefit of being more of an extrovert type is that like, the ability to share your story with other people and to bring in people into your own experience like you were talking about when you're in treatment, when you shared, it was really helpful. You're able to get feedback and you put in distance between your own inner world and, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:37:30  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:37:29  And you, you know, you put it out there, you you brought light to it. The benefit of being more introverted and you may have a more like, colorful inner world. To contemplate why things have happened. But there is a difference between open and a lack of open there, we were gonna to look at the big five scale. Openness this to new experiences. Is one of the markers of post growth in terms of personality. So that's where we can start talking about in intentionally working with our kids or working with ourselves. I'll talk ourselves first. Lorilee Binstock  00:38:06  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:38:09  One of the topics I we explore here is intentionally facilitated post growth. Which is a big concept to jump from Did you know you have trauma to You can intentionally facilitate your own. Right? Like, had a lot of ground to cover there. But the point is to build capacity So the more new experience that you put yourself in, the more you can subconsciously realize that I am capable and you collect more data around what you can get through. So I think that's why people like working out. In ways that are more intense like hit or traveling or meeting new people or doing psychedelics. Right? Like, the more experiences you can put yourself into, the more Lorilee Binstock  00:38:52  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:38:50  waiting you can expand your capacity to be in them. Showing worked with our kids, and we show them that you can be different. Hear some ways that you can be different, whether that's helping them go into sports, like, group sports is one kind of thing or if they're more of a solo person, like Martial Arts, but really helping them intentionally test some of those edges in micro. In a more micro capacity. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:13  Mhmm. Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:39:13  So that when you get the flood dose of adversity, is gonna happen at some point. It's like, oh, yeah. I've been... I've been training for this. And then okay. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:22  Right. Wow. Yes. And you know, it's it reminds me of a a really great quote from someone that I interviewed a while ago he was an Jessica Depatie  00:39:33  Oh Lorilee Binstock  00:39:33  shell former Nhl player, Dave Scattered. He after I think was a sith can ca heat. It was, like oh it was a near fatal concussion in humans, like, in his thirties getting dementia. And he told me because he said he's been his whole life just like this happy guy, like everything everything was kind of, you know, he's working hard doing, you know, achieving things. And then once you hit that, that that that can got that fit concussion and nearly died. You know, he and he was suffering and he realized, like, he said that god came to him when he was like, ready to just throw in the towel, and he was... He was ready to take in no life. Said you said he's like, he spoke to me, and he said that I I needed you to go through what you had Jessica Depatie  00:40:25  Oh, Lorilee Binstock  00:40:24  go through so you can help the people that you're going to help. Because he was saying that, you know, you know, there's a before that had happened, she'd be like, Oh, just suck it up. Just... You know, you broke your arm. You you know, you broke your whatever a teeth. You just, you know, just get up and let's do. Let's just do right. It's like, let's let's go. But he said that he had to go through the suffering to really understand what it was like, to be able to help other people because now he is a coach. He's he's a life coach. He's a for for for athletes to, you know, a and so he he had to understand. The only way he could understand other people suffering was going through the veterans himself because that he was just ready to give up and I just thought that was just an amazing way to look at it, like, right right now, like, I mean, I'm I don't know who I would be if all the things that happened to me, didn't happen. Like you were saying, Jessica Depatie  00:41:22  Mhmm mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:26  but but I'm happy where I am now. Jessica Depatie  00:41:27  You. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:29  And so I think that's that's that's that's the growth. That's the that's the growth there. Jessica Depatie  00:41:35  Yeah. I'm so glad he brought up. You know, a former athlete, like, that is that performer type you know, we we were glove was better and then first, first responders, Ashley also fall into that category entrepreneurs. People that have, like, grip Right? And they're used to. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:58  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:42:00  Practice and training to present something, whether that's to present themselves perfectly more or less in the arena of sport. Or on the battlefield or in business. And one of the interesting bits of research that we came across is that you can go from You don't have to be So talking to vitality right now, Lorilee Binstock  00:42:25  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:42:26  which is the ultimate, like, lack of agency getting to the point of, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:42:36  Right. Jessica Depatie  00:42:33  I can't change and this is it and then pulling the plug on your experience. So we wanted to study that to see what is the ultimate giving up moment. Right? When people are like, there is no growth left for me, The only way is this way. And there's bit of research that we found show that there... You can go from being perfectly quote, okay. To Suicide Value fairly quickly, when you have committed yourself to a lack of being able to change. And so I bring up performers because especially prevalent in that kind of archetype. Which I would consider myself to fall into as well. Which is like a bit of a failed hero story. You know, my whole life cultured nourished nurtured to perform him and to show up and all these things and at a point where, like, let say this gentleman, gets traumatic brain injury to the point where he is just, like, super different on the other side of that. The things that he valued above everything else likely was the the entertainment, the the joy that he brought through his his work. Right? And now that's gone, Who am I even? Lorilee Binstock  00:43:46  Mm-mm Jessica Depatie  00:43:48  And so a big part of the doing this work is acknowledging grade. You know, like, we go back to what is growth even, not being happy all the time. But it doesn't mean feeling joy and you're sorrow. Feeling the okay and being wherever you're at. So I can really relate to that story because I haven't experienced traumatic brain injury myself, but I was married to a Jeff Pop is also of the producer of this documentary he has traumatic brain injury. And when that started to flare up, it was unbearable to him. And to me, Lorilee Binstock  00:44:25  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:44:27  the emotional wave, the all the things that come with that. And because of the brain injury, it makes it a little bit tricky to work with. You know, the healing process on physiological like, in in terms of how your body heals, it it's kind different than a lot of the other psychological wounds that can happen. And so for him to acknowledge grace inhibit what he felt to be weak, not being able to show up. Not being able to be the husband that he wanted to be being ind incapacitated at moment. Not being able to reach out to people Lorilee Binstock  00:45:08  Mhmm Jessica Depatie  00:45:04  like, without that great, then he don't get me wrong. He had moment of, like, no grade. They just like this is horrible, and I don't know what to do with my myself anymore. But that with with what would be identified as the weakness for a performer is super super huge, and it takes time. And yeah, what is Grace even? Like, acknowledgement that that this is all part of it. Lorilee Binstock  00:45:31  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:45:31  Right. So below the the coming to Jesus moment, like, that's what those load can be. Lorilee Binstock  00:45:38  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:45:39  And it's hard when you're in those in your rock bottom, I don't know if there's a lot of work to be done there. Like, when you're really going through it and you're feeling everything, I think the strategy there is to breathe and write it out. Lorilee Binstock  00:45:53  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:45:53  But when you come back into a point of neutrality, that's where I think the work begins is it's in the contemplation of, like, what was that? Where did that come from? You know, now that of space instead of just going right back to twice me like, okay. Well I'm good again. You know, I'm just gonna ignore that that happened. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:08  Yeah. Jessica Depatie  00:46:09  That's where you put in the wraps. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:12  Right. I agree. I agree. It was... You know, when you're in it, there's really not much you can do. Jessica Depatie  00:46:16  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:19  You're just you're you're... You just... I feel like you can just go down. Right? Like, I felt like that I was just going down my rabbit hole when I hit the rock bottom and I was just like, there's nothing for me. Jessica Depatie  00:46:27  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:31  Luckily, I had my husband who was like, okay. You can do this. We're gonna do this. Jessica Depatie  00:46:31  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:35  We're gonna do this. But Yeah. It was... You know, I I I I do... And I know that this likely the purpose of your your documentary, but to let will know that, you know, post traumatic growth is achievable people, it's... You know, And and I feel like, I I can't stress that enough because I was there. I was there. I was there what I was just like, this is who I am. There's no there's no way out of Jessica Depatie  00:47:02  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:47:02  this. And I think that there's nothing more then I want to share then it is a possibility. There's it's there. Jessica Depatie  00:47:13  Exactly. That is so well said it is the possibility because one very easy route we could gone down with this that would made my a lot easier it may, like, here, the five steps the post traumatic gross, you know, like, Youtube can be healed, but it so not that. Like, this whole film is really one messenger prompt know, the answers that you get are only gonna come within yourself. So it's... It's presented in a very poetic way. And we're really, really careful to not say that it is Let gonna say that. Just to know that it is an option. To believe that it is an option. Is the biggest and leap of faith you can take. Lorilee Binstock  00:47:59  Yes. Jessica Depatie  00:48:01  There's no actual work that you have to do in terms of by the end of this film, I mean, Like, there's no actual, like, you have to go see a therapist. Do you have to do psychedelics? You have to have to have do in order to heal, what you have to do is just know that it's possible and to just open your mind to whatever comes in. So one of the major themes or I methodologies that we follow is young in psychology throughout that. And the way that that's presented is a very gentle, like, awareness in an opening process. Everybody's experience different. Everybody's mode of healing will be different. That's why we're a solution agnostic kind of organization because going into treatment center it may be perfect for you. To give the guitar, maybe all that you need. You know, learning how to cook maybe everything. So to pinpoint exactly what needs to happen, what do I do now? Is not our responsibility to tell you what to do because that would just be Lorilee Binstock  00:49:06  Mm-mm Jessica Depatie  00:49:03  impossible and, like, irresponsible on our end. Right? Behold I don't wanna be the person that's like, well, just do what I did. If and it'll work for you at might. But This is where we pass agency to the viewer, like, your own intuition will let you know, follow the clues in your life. Lorilee Binstock  00:49:21  Mhmm Jessica Depatie  00:49:24  And here are through of the mythology that shows you that post growth is throughout of human history. Here the bio reasons why grows after trauma is actually probable not just possible. And here's all the proof around why this is actually a thing and not just some random phenomenon that happens to people that like, are lucky enough two you know, catch the post matter growth bug. So. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:49:49  Wow, Amazing. I mean, I can talk to you all day. I really could. Jessica Depatie  00:49:51  I know. That'd be great. Twenty four hour podcast. Lorilee Binstock  00:49:56  I know. Right. But we do have to wrap it up. But I do want to ask if you have anything that you would like to add Jessica Depatie  00:50:05  Well, I think I got through all the the juicy bit of the documentary, but we are running a kickstarter right now until the end of June, a little bit in the July, we're using fun to help us finish the film. So right now, if you donate eat fifteen bucks to the kick started. You can watch a short version of the film, which is thirty minutes, and it's very good. Have same else. Lorilee Binstock  00:50:26  I I love the trailers. The trailer was amazing. I I I was like, I need more. So, yes, Jessica Depatie  00:50:31  Thank you. We'll, also I you the link. Else send need a link to watch it. For anybody listening, yeah, the donation goes towards helping us finish it. And we just actually partnered with this fantastic director out of Hollywood. That is going to be editing our full film and just make it primed for for math media you know, like, that was one thing that in doing this process, we realized we have some limitations around what? In Netflix. Lorilee Binstock  00:50:56  Mhmm. Jessica Depatie  00:50:57  You know? And and what is too complicated? So we... Like I love this so much. I'm gonna set you up with the connections as distributors and all the things that you guys don't have right now, and I wanna edit it so the people really... So really not people locked up. So that wasn't in huge huge miracle for us. And, yeah. Any fun that are donated, go towards helping fish edit. But Also, it goes towards helping us create an past campaigns to the ones the film is finished, we can take to correctional facilities and addiction centers and to Lorilee Binstock  00:51:34  Amazing. Jessica Depatie  00:51:34  like colleges and, yeah. To help for the word of post growth rays wear in it. Around of possibility for people that either need it the most or to make the most impact. And usually, those are the same people Lorilee Binstock  00:51:46  That's incredible. I really. I love that. I love going. The this idea of going to those places and and having them be able to for this idea of post growth. So incredible. And, you know, there's a scrolling fortune cookie right there on your screen. And I will also have in the show notes that you can go to that kickstarter right there. So Jessica Depatie  00:52:11  Beautiful. Thank you so much for having Me on, this have been really fun. Lorilee Binstock  00:52:12  Thanks. Jessica Depatie  00:52:15  Love that you on my show too. One of these days. Let's up that up. Lorilee Binstock  00:52:17  Yeah. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Jessica I really appreciated. That was Jessica good to pat shadow work educator host of the shadow work library podcast and the executive producer. Of the documentary dark night of our soul for more information on Jessica, click on that scrolling fortune cookie right there on your screen. You... It'll will also be in the show notes anywhere you get your podcast. Also, June issue of authentic insider is out check out out to insider at trauma thrive dot com that trauma survivor dot com. We will be back next week and with episode one hundred, You can join me live when I speak with Erin Johnson about mental health and marginalized communities. Next week it's gonna be on a different day. Same time though, it's gonna be on Tuesday, June thirteenth. Please join me. You've been listening to A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast. I'm Lorilee Binstock. Thanks again for being a part of the conversation. Take care.

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This is a LIVE replay of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, May 24th, 2023 at 1130am ET on Fireside Chat. Today's guest is Reverend Kenneth Nixon Jr., Author of the book Born Into Crisis: A Memoir. For more information about Rev. Kenneth Nixon Jr.'s work, visit Author Rev. Kenneth Nixon. Lorilee Binstock  00:03:22  Welcome. I'm Lorilee Binstock, and this is A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me live on Fireside Chat, where you can be a part of the conversation as my virtual audience. I'm Lorilee Binstock, your host. Everyone has an opportunity to ask me or our guest questions by requesting to hop on stage or sending a message in the chat box. I will try to get you, but I do ask that everyone be respectful. Our guest today is reverend, Kenneth,Nixon junior. He is the author of Born into Crisis, a memoir about his experience growing up with a mentally ill mother. Kenneth, thank you so much for joining me today. Kenneth Nixon  00:04:27  Thank you for having me. How are you doing today? Lorilee Binstock  00:04:30  I'm doing great. Thank you. How about yourself? Kenneth Nixon  00:04:33  Pretty good. Pretty good. You know, you you challenged me because I don't have an Apple device, so I had to go out and buy one for the first time. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:41  Stop. Did you really oh my goodness. What do you think of it? Kenneth Nixon  00:04:44  Yes. I have a lot of learning to do. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:51  Oh my goodness. Well, I'm so grateful for you. I mean, maybe you could return I don't know if if you're like, oh, this is you know, you get so used to one thing after a while, but I do appreciate your your willingness to come on the show because you have a lot to say, and I wanna hear all about it. Your book brought into crisis, wow. Incredibly. So I I want you to be able to, you know, for our guests who haven't read the book, can you talk a little bit about your childhood? Kenneth Nixon  00:05:26  Yes. So my childhood, if we start right at the title of the book, right, born into crisis, It when I was born, my mother who suffered from severe mental illness, all of her her life, I was literally born into crisis from the standpoint. She was in the middle of Psychosis at the moment of my birth, in which while I was lying on the floor, I was suffering from withdrawals from a medication called thorazine, which is anti psychotic medication that she used to treat those who then suffer from paranoid schizophrenia or other manic depressive disorders. The stuff of that nature. And it was only by grace that my father who was getting off of work, out there in time to get me in the hospital. So I quite literally was born into crisis. But that is the beginning stage of a life and a childhood in which I had to deal with trauma, PTSD, anxiety, and various things of growing up with a mother with severe mental illness. Lorilee Binstock  00:06:44  You know, that's really tough. You know, you you talk about, you know, postpartum psychosis. I mean, I I it sounds like she she's dealt with these issues. But, you know, after, you know, childbirth, post farm psychosis is very real. And and it's it's so such a you know, it's such an issue that people are like, yeah. It doesn't really affect that many people. It affects enough people. I feel like for for someone to raise awareness about it. You know? It's it it is very much a problem. You hear all these stories about these mothers. Kenneth Nixon  00:07:02  Yes. Lorilee Binstock  00:07:15  Who murdered their children or who've attempted to murder their children. Kenneth Nixon  00:07:17  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:07:19  And, you know, this is this is a problem. Right? So I'm curious for you, you know, for someone who's dealt with so much trauma, especially at an early age, how were you able to get out of that? How are you able to break these generational cycles of of trauma? Kenneth Nixon  00:07:42  Yeah. So what I wanna do first, you hit a good point that I wanted to emphasize about not only prenatal care, but postnatal care. Lorilee Binstock  00:07:55  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:07:55  My mother because I have older siblings, she suffered a severe bout of postpartum depression with my oldest brother, Kevin, in the seventies. And that was not she did not have effective prenatal care and postnatal care, and that can lead to devastating consequences as well in terms of impacts to mental health if there's not effective care for from others, both pre and post. And particularly in the sixties and seventies, it it was really lacking for women of color. It's improved, but there's still gaps in it. But prenatal and postnatal care is critical too for for mothers to have, but breaking generational cycles. I think it's it's always a work in progress. For me, it began with this deep sense of curiosity as I was growing up to try to understand how my life could turn out in such a way. Right? Is those stages of emotions that you go through from anger to to grief, to resentment, to bitterness, to sadness, and really understanding not only the systems and the environment that that I grew up in, but understanding what was within my control to begin to shift the paradigm, not only in my life, but to also make sure that I don't carry some of those things into my household as I'm raising my children. And I took that personally because I had a a deep sense that I wanted to do things differently from my children so they can have a healthier path to to life than I did. Lorilee Binstock  00:09:57  Yes. At you know, for me, you know, I'm a childhood sexual abuse survivor. You know, I realized my my father was also sexually abused as a child. I didn't know that until I was much older. For me, it was really hard. Even though I it's like, I knew You know, I they also had very erratic behaviors, very just very difficult to be around. And, you know, the yay, yelling, a lot of just erratic behavior behaviors. And, you know, even though I'm like, I don't wanna be I don't wanna be anything like my parents. You know, there are times where I'd get overwhelmed, and I'd get you know, there's just moments with my kids that I was just yelling. And this was before I I got went to residential treatment. I and I was very fortunate that I was able to do that. But before that, you know, I didn't realize. Like, I'm like, oh my god. My children are just behaving this way because And it it it took a long time for me to say, oh my goodness. I'm I'm behaving the way my parents were behaving. And now my children are going to pick up on this. What was it for you where you were like, things need to change, or was this before children? And did you have a support system? Because I feel like that's extremely important too. Kenneth Nixon  00:11:21  Mhmm. So I I would say it's some of both. In terms of a support system, I I would say I didn't have a big, strong support system. But what I did have was my my grandmother, She passed away in two thousand and six, and my father But central to for me was my faith. Lorilee Binstock  00:11:50  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:11:52  And I'm only speaking for myself, but it was one of those things that I can fully lean on and trust to help me not only center myself, find the sense of peace, but it was something that was dependable and that was consistent in my life. That allow me to have a sense of fulfillment. But as I got older and, particularly, into adulthood, I began focusing on how do I help others not deal with the same situations that I was doing, but also how do I do the things in terms of self care therapy? That I don't carry some of my traumas or inherited traumas into a household where I'm raising my sons. And I will give a good example in terms of that. Like, I grew up where family wasn't very loving. There were there weren't those affirmations of of I love you. I don't even think I remember my father ever saying that or people around me there. There weren't hugs or being tucked in at night, and Lorilee Binstock  00:13:14  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:13:19  things of of that nature that seem normal to me, but they weren't they're aren't normal because humans thrive off of connection and being connected with one another. And it's really focusing on the small things to make sure Lorilee Binstock  00:13:34  Right. Kenneth Nixon  00:13:36  that my children understand that they are loved, that I I tell them that they had loved them, that I talked them in at night, that I hugged them, that they actually see me crying. And one of the the things that I wanted my sons to understand is that it's okay for boys who will eventually become men to cry. Because crying is one of the ways in which your body releases anxiety. It releases stress or releases Lorilee Binstock  00:14:01  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:14:03  some of the things that if you bottle up, it can turn into physical health challenges. So I wanted to create an environment in which I was acting out on my self interest of creating a more fair and equitable society, particularly around mental health. But I was also living that out in a way. I was raising my children so they can grow up in a healthy environment as much as possible. I still have things that I I have to work on because it's a continuous work. Lorilee Binstock  00:14:34  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:14:35  But as much as possible, I'm very conscious of it. And I try to create an environment that is a hundred and eighty degrees different than the one I grew up in. Lorilee Binstock  00:14:45  Yeah. I feel like awareness is everything. When you're conscious about your behaviors. It's it's so much easier to make changes versus me before before I actually was aware of my who what I was doing. I was just going along thinking why everyone's doing something wrong. Kenneth Nixon  00:15:07  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:07  And that was really hard. That was really hard to to really fully be aware of my act my behaviors and how it affected other people. And actually be present in a in the moment versus, you know, for the longest time, probably for twenty years, thirty years, I was disassociating. Kenneth Nixon  00:15:27  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:28  And so that was that was challenging. You know, I wanna talk about discrimination of mental illness. Kenneth Nixon  00:15:37  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:39  And it's really interesting. I feel like this has been a whole thing for the month of May, you know, we're right into in mental health awareness month. And just a few weeks ago, I actually someone contributed to my magazine. She was not, I guess, when I promoted her piece, I had a lot of people reaching out saying, oh, this person's a liar. She's you know, she she did have a warrant out for her arrest. And they did say, like, oh, she's she's a she's a compulsive liar. You can't have her on your show. You know, I can't believe you let her contribute to this magazine. She's a fraud. I don't believe she even experienced trauma. And my my reaction to that was all of this kind of proved she's experienced some sort of trauma, whether it's a trauma that she says she's experienced. She still experienced trauma, and I feel like I I I want you to kind of go into discrimination of mental illness. And and in that. Kenneth Nixon  00:16:40  Yeah. Yeah. In in my book, I I dedicate a chapter kind of to the the point you're getting at right now. And I would count this under a form of cognitive bias where individuals or or or groups of folks kind of project their own sense of right and wrong in their own feelings and their own perceptions on whether or not someone experienced something or not in into what degree. And it requires people to understand that someone's truth is someone's truth. And it may manifest or look differently Lorilee Binstock  00:17:20  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:17:23  than what you may want it to look like or what society says is normal. But if we start at the basis of letting everyone share their story, and how they feel and how they perceive that they receive trauma and go at it from the side of love and deference, I think we will get to a place where we begin to allow people to share the same space now. We do have to be grounded in a sense of of facts and truth But the way trauma works is people have to be comfortable in the space to be able to share their truth in a way that feels real and natural to them. And sometimes people may not feel comfortable sharing their full truth in a way that we may all like because they feel they're gonna be attacked or they're going to be put in a position where they are overexposed and don't wanna be in a position where they're too vulnerable. So I would encourage people to really look at their own form of bias on their worldview, on how they grew up in how they see things and understand every individual has their own set of experiences. Have their own set of understandings, and have their own set of feelings. And even if that individual is saying something that you don't necessarily agree with or that you feel is fully forthright, it is okay to let that individual just speak. You don't have to always point out the flaws of someone else. Sometimes just let them speak and move on. Lorilee Binstock  00:19:23  Yeah. That's you know, that's easier said than done. Right? I I I agree with you. Right? I'm you know, I've gotten to this point in my healing where Kenneth Nixon  00:19:27  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:19:32  I don't need to you know, provide input on how someone else should live or how they're living or, you know, how their trauma has affected them and how they should behave. But it is I feel like when I was reading the comments, and and it was on it was think it was on my pay Facebook page, and people were just saying all of these different things about this person. And I guess, you know, from from their perspective, I see, okay. There probably there's probably fear there that they could be, Kenneth Nixon  00:20:03  Mhmm. Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:20:04  you know, scammed by this person. And I think, you know, and, you know, I wanted to give them some compassion as well, but it's it's it's so hard for people to Kenneth Nixon  00:20:15  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:20:16  to really separate themselves from, you know because there's a good chance that, you know, family members or people that were surrounding them felt like they need to Kenneth Nixon  00:20:20  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:20:28  put their you know, have their input, and then that's kind of how we do things. Right? Kenneth Nixon  00:20:34  Yeah. And it also could be coming from a place of feeling that they have to protect their own mental health or the health of others who may Lorilee Binstock  00:20:41  Exactly. Yeah. Kenneth Nixon  00:20:45  may come to listen to the content. So it could be a protection mechanism. I I would say one of the the anecdotes that we need to utilize more often is connecting with one another in person. I know technology is that's done wonderful things for society Lorilee Binstock  00:21:04  Yeah. Kenneth Nixon  00:21:07  and globally. But it's also disconnected us in a way that we don't have enough real conversations with real people in person and connect in a way that allows us to feel and be surrounded by the spirit of people. So I think more that needs to happen, but I I truly, truly understand the sense of wanting to protect ones own space, and that could have been something that was being communicated Lorilee Binstock  00:21:37  Yeah. Kenneth Nixon  00:21:40  through Facebook. Lorilee Binstock  00:21:43  You wrote born into crisis, and I wanna know what was your intention? What did you hope to come out of this book. Kenneth Nixon  00:21:55  Mhmm. So my hope was to reach at least one individual. I I wrote it with it impacting one person. If one person could read it and find their halved to self discovery, to healing, to getting a sense of agency and empowerment to act on their self interest, and I would consider it successful. So the way I wrote it was one to try to have people feel that they're having a conversation with me, so I've broken into two parts. One is my personal story. The second part is the call to action. And I wanted to be able to allow people some insight into my personal story, but I also wanted to give people the tools, the walkways on what they could potentially do to take those concrete steps to affect not only changing their local community in their homes as individuals, but as society as a whole around this critical issue of mental health. Lorilee Binstock  00:23:11  Yes. Our our mental health our our health system in America is is You know, I have I I I have words. But, especially, when it when it when it comes to mental health, Kenneth Nixon  00:23:21  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:23:25  it's it's almost non existent, it feels like. You know, people to get the right care for for a a therapist, especially trauma therapist, I feel like everything's now out of out of pocket. Insurance isn't covering a lot of it. What would you what do you think we needs to be done to really revolutionize our our mental health system health care system because I feel like it is a very daunting task, and a lot of people don't wanna touch it. Kenneth Nixon  00:23:50  Mhmm. Yes. So the mental first of all, mental health for those who are listening. Mental health is health. One of the first things we have to do is decriminalize mental health. And what do I mean by that is we have to put in place the community based system that was always supposed to go in place when we did a mask the institutionalization push back in the sixty seventies and eighties where these massive mental health institutions were shuttered in its place supposed to be this community based system that will holistically treat individuals and get them on a path to healing and sustainability while they stayed in their communities, well, that system never got put in place. In in that gap, you ended up with a system in which individuals who are dealing with mental health, whether it's anxiety or it's a severe mental illness, They end up in one of two places, either in the local emergency room, which ERs are intended for physical emergencies, not mental health emergencies, and they end up in e r's not getting immediate treatment or they end up in local jails. And the fact is is that the largest mental health treatment facilities in this country today still on local jails. Think about that for a second. The largest mental health treatment facility in the United States right now are local jails. We need to shift that dynamic to a more humane form of treatment that keeps people in their community that does not criminalize mental illness, but gives people their best shot at having happy thriving lives. Lorilee Binstock  00:26:01  So would that be all community organizations that what what would we be able to put in place? What is Kenneth Nixon  00:26:10  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:26:11  what would Kenneth Nixon  00:26:11  So some of the work that I am going through the organization. I'm affiliated with Voice, which stands for Virginians, organized for interfaith community engagement. There's a three pronged stool to this process. Some place to call some place to go, and the the treatment and the services that wrap around the individual that is getting treatment. So one of the key pieces that was put in place that needs to be put in place nationally. And is the advent of the nine eight eight hotline number? Which allows individuals who or their loved ones who are about to go into a mental health episode or in the middle of it. To have an alternative to nine eleven, to call nine eight eight and be connected to someone that they can talk to that can help determine on what level of illness that they own and what type of treatment do they need, whether it's just to speak with someone or that they actually need to speak to a clinical professional. So that's that's the first piece. Really, implementing and socializing of the nine eight eight hotline number for individuals to utilize. The second piece is the infrastructure. So in Virginia, we're working really hard, and we've had some successes in getting funding to build out what are called crisis receiving centers. These are brick and mortar facilities that have two components. One is a a a twenty three hour piece where individuals in the community Law enforcement can do drop offs instead of taking people to local jails. People can just walk in where someone is experiencing anxiety or they they feel that they need to talk to someone, and they can walk right off the street in Speak get immediate treatment and speak with a professional, and they may need two hours. They may need four. But they may need up to twenty three hours. The whole goal is to make mental health services as accessible as possible. The second component to that crisis receiving center is called a short stay, a crisis stabilization unit. This is for individuals, whether they come through drop off from law enforcement or family member or they walk in themselves if it's determined that they need more in intensive in patient treatment for a short stay. There's another component for a three to five day short stay for that individual to get intensive inpatient treatment. But when they depart, they don't just depart. Without any tools or any resources they depart with wraparound services that allows them to access continuous ongoing care and treatment. So in Virginia, we have a victory in which on Prince William County in Virginia, which is in Northern Virginia, has done the groundbreaking and should have a full crisis receiving center online by spring of next year. I know in Loudoun County where That's also in Northern Virginia where they've their local government has approved the funding to build their own full crisis receiving center. And in Fairfax County, the most populous jurisdiction in Virginia, They're going to be putting up funding to finish out a full crisis receiving center as well. So one of the things we need to do is to make sure that not only are we breaking down the stigma, but we're coming together to create what I call co collective power to compel our local governments to begin building out that community based mental health system that was promised to us over forty years ago. Lorilee Binstock  00:30:27  Well, this is amazing. This is in Virginia. What about countrywide? Is this is do they do each individual state? Does does do they have Kenneth Nixon  00:30:33  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:30:38  similar goals to create this type of space. Kenneth Nixon  00:30:42  Yeah. So I can speak so the model that Virginia's following is based off of the federal government's guidelines in under the guise of a a crisis now model, which was pioneered in Arizona. Which we're trying to build our system based off of that crisis now model. So there are pockets in the country in Arizona. I know there is a facility in San Antonio, Texas. There's also a facility in Ohio, and there's a good robust program in Florida, I believe. So there are pockets where this is taking hold and taking shape in the country, but it is not uniform throughout the country. And if we're going to get at true systematic transformation, we have to make a commitment at the state level and the local level across the country to really commit to destigmatizing and decriminalizing mental health, and that is making a commitment to the crisis now model of care. Which will help us build out nationwide a community based system of treatment. So we get people to treatment and not incarceration. So to answer your question, and it is in other pockets of the country, but there is no uniformity across the country to implement this model. Lorilee Binstock  00:32:13  Got it. Do you believe that law enforcement is equipped to handle people who are dealing with mental health crisis. Kenneth Nixon  00:32:24  Yes. And no. I say yes from the standpoint if if law enforcement agencies, and I know in Virginia, a lot of our law enforcement agents who send a lot of their police officers through crisis intervention training, CIT. And there's different levels of CIT training from the introductory level all the way up to more advanced methods to equip law enforcement to be able to identify when they're dealing with the individual who's in a mental or in the middle of a mental health crisis. But writ large, law enforcement is not equipped to deal with those who are in the middle of the mental health crisis, and it can lead to often tragic outcomes when you're putting law enforcement in a position where they have to make snap decisions. Lorilee Binstock  00:33:28  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:33:29  And I can tell you each law enforcement officer or agency that I've encountered in Virginia will will be the first to stand up and say they are four. Putting these prices receiving centers in place because they do not want to be involved in these type situations. They understand completely that people who are in a mental health crisis need to see mental health professionals. So And and quite frankly, you're talking about law enforcement officers who have who are veterans, who have been in wars who have their own traumas, and we're oftentimes Lorilee Binstock  00:34:09  Mhmm. Kenneth Nixon  00:34:11  singing veterans sometimes into situations where we can potentially trigger their mental health. So it's incumbent upon us to work with law enforcement as well as like we are going in Virginia to put in place a system that alleviates this unfunded mandate on law enforcement. Lorilee Binstock  00:34:33  Well, I I'm thank you so much for all of the information that you've provided in everything that you're doing. You've taken your story. And found purpose and really are pushing for action and advocacy and and and health care and focused on mental health, and it's so admirable. And I thank you so much for all that you do. Is there anything that you would like to add? Kenneth Nixon  00:35:04  Well, I would like to leave your audience and everyone with is that none of us controls how we came into this world of the beginning. But we do have a saying the conclusion. And whatever way feels comfortable for you, whatever way that you feel led or inspired, if we're going to get at truly shifting the paradigm on mental health. It requires all of us, not just those who are directly impacted but those who have loved ones who are impacted, those who know of someone who are impacted. We are in mental health awareness month. But when mental health awareness not ends at the beginning of June, those same challenges are still there. Those causes are still there. The people that need our support and our encouragement and our effort to get them on a path of humane treatment is gonna still be there. And however you feel red, whether it's researching, whether it is direct action to to get the funding or holding seminars to break down stigma. We all owe it to future generations to do something about it now. Lorilee Binstock  00:36:31  Thank you very well, said. I appreciate you again for coming on. And and sharing your story and your input and and to the crisis that we are all living in right now. So thank you so much. Kenneth Nixon  00:36:45  And thank you again, and I appreciate the work and the advocacy that you're you're doing, and and I also appreciate the personality that you put into it that I've I've looked at your social media some as preparing for this, and it that by itself can be an encouraging method to help someone find their way to not only dealing with their own personal challenges, but having a sense, hey. I can have a voice too in a way that's comfortable to me. So thank you for your work as well. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:24  Thank you. That That means a lot. That means a lot. You know, I wanna do what I can, you know, find my purpose. Right? Well, thank you again. Kenneth Nixon  00:37:34  Question. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:36  That was Reverend Kenneth Nixon, Jr. Author of the memoir, born into crisis. For more information on Kenneth and his book, Click on that scrolling fortune cookie right there on your screen. Also, May's issue of authentic insider is out Kenneth so graciously contributed to May's issue. Check out authentic insider at trauma survivor thriver dot com. That's trauma survivor thriver dot com if you haven't already, please subscribe to my email list to get authentic insider magazine in your inbox monthly. We are taking a break next week, but we will be back in June for our last two episodes of season four. That'll be my hundredth episode. So I hope you join us. Join me live when I speak with Jessica Lee DePatie, filmmaker of the documentary Dark Knight of our Soul, about post traumatic growth. You've been listening to A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast on Fireside. I'm Lorilee Binstock. Again, thank you for being a part of the conversation. Take care.

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This is a LIVE replay (edits made due to technical difficulties) of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, May 17th, 2023 at 1130am ET on Fireside Chat. Today's guest is Noga Schechter, Mental Health and Disordered Eating Advocate. Lorilee Binstock  00:00:28  Welcome. I'm Lorilee Binstock, and this is A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me live on Fireside where you can be a part of the conversation as my virtual audience. I am your host, Laura Lee Benstock. Everyone has an opportunity to ask me or our guest questions by requesting to hop on stage or I'm sending a message in the chat box. I will try to get you, but I do ask that you'd be respectful. Today's guest is Noga Schecther, Mental Health and Disordered Eating Advocate. Noga, thank you so much for joining me today. Noga Schechter  00:01:20  Oh my gosh. Thank you for having me. I remember how I found you. Lorilee Binstock  00:01:25  How did you find me? Noga Schechter  00:01:27  I was just looking for an avenue to to talk about these things, and I couldn't believe how they're just isn't that much out there. And you were in really easy find because there just aren't as many dedicated Lorilee Binstock  00:01:37  Yep. Noga Schechter  00:01:43  places where you can start talking about these types of issues as much as one would think. So I was really excited to find you. Lorilee Binstock  00:01:49  Ma'am, Oh, well, thank you. And I appreciate, you know, we've had conversations before, and you actually you shared with me, even before we got on our phone call about Noga Schechter  00:01:59  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:01:59  your your childhood trauma, which really Noga Schechter  00:02:02  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:02:03  seem to extend until adulthood. Would you mind sharing that? Noga Schechter  00:02:10  Yeah. I I think, you know, I grew up For starters, an immigrant from Israel, I I I came here to the US when I was six. And I grew up in an environment where there wasn't necessarily a safe place. My mom was very traumatized from her own childhood. She suffered from alcoholism, and lots of mental health issues. My father, I think, at the time, was just trying to keep everything together as the glue of the family. So he was So he was just really inundated with with crisis management. So As a as a as a young girl, I I I was just always on my own. You know? And and that, you know, when you're when you're a child, you don't know how to process things, especially pain. Or discomfort or just truth. And so I went about processing I I went about most of my childhood with an inability to process the trauma that I that I have in third. Lorilee Binstock  00:03:29  I know you said your dad dealt with a lot of Christ management, was he able Noga Schechter  00:03:33  Again. Lorilee Binstock  00:03:34  to comfort you? Did you did you feel comfortable sharing any issues or pain you know, children children need to share. And so we're Was was he able to do that, or was it just, like, so overwhelming by just managing what he had to already manage? Noga Schechter  00:03:45  Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. I was alone. I mean, I didn't have any comfort in my We had don't get me wrong. I mean, we had fun moments as a family. We took vacations. But in the day to day, from when I can even remember, I was processing alone. I was learning alone. I was processing alone. I was dealing alone, I did not have a comfortable space to go to go talk ever, ever. Until I reached you on the adulthood. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:27  Wow. So and and, you know, not having a person there for you. Especially as a child, that cat that is trauma. Noga Schechter  00:04:33  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:36  There's trauma. When you have when when you're learning how to cope with something, Noga Schechter  00:04:36  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:04:42  then you can't turn to an adult, that that must have been really hard. Noga Schechter  00:04:47  Well, you know, you don't really know. I mean, you know that it's hard I knew it was hard. I knew I was in pain, but I thought that that was normal. Yeah. I I didn't really understand how damaging my household was until the shoe dropped is what I call it. You know? With young adult where you're looking around at your life, you know, in your mid twenties and you're like, why is everything wrong? You know, So it's you know, I use this word a lot right now. It's I use the word egoic construct. Right? So I I I was in an ego contract thinking that this was okay, this was normal, and this is whatever how everyone lived. Lorilee Binstock  00:05:32  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:05:33  Not having support being alone, you know, which caused a a huge habit for magical thinking is what I call. What I call it, Lorilee Binstock  00:05:44  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:05:44  you know, I went into years and years of magical thinking, which is, you know, we call it being a dreamer as adults. But when you're a child and you don't have the ability to process your trauma, you start hoping and wishing hoping and wishing all the time, and that's how one processes. And you think the hoping and wishing hoping and wishing is going to change your environment and change your situations, but we know that that's not the case. Right? It's it's with incremental actions that life changes. So, you know, there were some habits that I picked up from essentially being alone, and that I took into a thought that that became extremely unhealthy. Lorilee Binstock  00:06:31  When was it that you began to you said in your twenties, you started using did you start I know we were talking about trauma and disordered eating, Noga Schechter  00:06:40  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:06:43  was when did you start using food to help you cope? Noga Schechter  00:06:47  You know, I think I always did. You know? Like, I think I always did I think what I think it was really around puberty, like, around twelve or thirteen where I started really eating a lot way beyond peeling full. And but I have to be honest, it's just been a blur ever since because when you're in that state, you know, this this this crisis, this constant crisis, constant coming. It's hard to remember a lot of it. It feels like it's just so much of a blur. Lorilee Binstock  00:07:24  Right. Noga Schechter  00:07:25  But but, specifically, when I was in my mid twenties, I was married. I I married really young. Basically, a replica of my mother, you know, a big drinker, a big gambler, irresponsible, not not reliable and damaging. Just a very damaging relationship. And that mimics my household. Right? Because that's what you do. Lorilee Binstock  00:07:54  Right. Right. Noga Schechter  00:07:54  And and I remember those were the nights where I started to, like, eat myself to sleep. You know? Like like, though that's when the behavior started becoming. Lorilee Binstock  00:08:08  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:08:09  Past self harm into, like, I may be killing myself. Lorilee Binstock  00:08:14  Wow. Noga Schechter  00:08:16  And and and it's over time. Right? It doesn't happen. It it the body is a pro is is Lorilee Binstock  00:08:16  Mom. Noga Schechter  00:08:22  the human body is is a progression. It's a snapshot of a of a progression. Right? It's not it's not what it is right now, what you're doing right now. So over time, I was essentially almost killing myself. I was My hormones were totally out of whack because when I was eating, I I had gird. I I I I was pretty diabetic. I got up to three hundred and sixteen pounds. That was the heaviest. But Lorilee Binstock  00:08:50  Well, Noga Schechter  00:08:53  really, in young adulthood, like, my mid twenties into my late twenties is when I started self harming. And that was doing it past the point, like, eating past the point of full, past the point of over eating, and into the place of I hate myself, so I'm going to eat until I'm tired and I go to sleep. So Lorilee Binstock  00:09:18  You know, he yeah. Go ahead. Noga Schechter  00:09:21  yeah. That's I mean, that's where I that's where I initially got. And I knew everything was wrong. I I didn't know how happy I was. I you know you look in the mirror, but I didn't I didn't fully understand what was going on. I it was still very much, so I was in a place of slight mania, crisis, pain. I couldn't see straight. I didn't know anything outside of that construct. Lorilee Binstock  00:09:52  You know, eating disorders, I feel like it can be really difficult because you said what stuck out to me was I think I think I always Noga Schechter  00:09:53  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:01  was just using food as a coping mechanism. Noga Schechter  00:10:03  Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:05  And it's hard because it's, like, you have to eat. You have it's not like drugs. Right? Like, it's not one of those things. Like, oh, you see someone doing cocaine. You know, that Noga Schechter  00:10:12  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:10:15  we need to do something. Like, you see someone eating and you don't realize, especially at a young age. Like, oh, they're just they're just eating. This is what people do. They eat. Noga Schechter  00:10:24  Yeah. Yeah. It's tricky. You know, I think I've done a lot of reading. I mean, I I've read arguably close to four hundred human behavior books. And eating disorders, I think, are one of the most complicated. Monoclonal illnesses out there, and they also have the highest rate of fatality Lorilee Binstock  00:10:49  Yep. Noga Schechter  00:10:50  out of all dental onagers, and there's only a six percent I think it's something between six and eight percent of all people with with this disease heal. Meaning the healing rate of Lorilee Binstock  00:11:09  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:11:09  of of this is virtually impossible. And and I think the reason that is is because there there's a few things. Right? One is society. Actually, so many people have anything disorders. They just don't even know it. Right? Like, Lorilee Binstock  00:11:28  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:11:29  the way that we the way that we treat food and the way that we have anxiety any any anxiety over food is essentially part of that disease. Lorilee Binstock  00:11:43  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:11:44  So so it's not just the person that overeat, it's the person that's not restrict. It's also the person that is at the gym constantly and is only eating chicken and broccoli Lorilee Binstock  00:11:51  Right. Noga Schechter  00:11:55  saying that this is the healthy way to be because that's the other side of the anxiety. Right? You're still having you're still attaching Lorilee Binstock  00:12:02  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:12:05  unhealthy anxiety around food. So it's not just over eating, and you're overweight. It's super, super, super skinny or super, super, super muscular. Lorilee Binstock  00:12:17  Right. Noga Schechter  00:12:17  You know, all of that's super, super, super, anything is is related. And so I think I think it's society telling us, you know, how to act with food that makes it difficult. But I think the other piece that makes in any sort of so difficult is it involves self loading, and self loading is probably one of the most complicated scenarios to to to unwind. Because you couldn't be further from the truth. Right? So so so so so I think the the more we gravitate from the truth. Truth of the universe truth of what is Lorilee Binstock  00:12:55  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:13:03  the sicker we got. Right? So self loathing Lorilee Binstock  00:13:06  Yep. Noga Schechter  00:13:07  takes everything about you and hates it. Right? So when you're eating this order, it's not I oh, I'm eating too much. It's I hate myself twenty four hours a day. And and and that and that's impossible. Right? Because to think about it. You know, it's sunny it's sunny over here in California, and it's raining in New York. Somebody is being born and somebody is dying, and I may be overweight, but I might have nice hair. I might be overweight, but I have a great sister. When you take all of that and just say everything sucks and I sucks. How do you unwind that? It's so so suffered. It's so distant from the truth. Lorilee Binstock  00:13:53  Yeah. That's so interesting. Noga Schechter  00:13:54  And that's, I think, the most I think, that's the most complicated part of the eating disorder because The only way to unwind it is one strand at a time. Yes. Yes. I'm three hundred pounds, but my hair is beautiful and curly. Step one. Step two. Yeah. Yes. I'm three hundred pounds. But, you know, I have great skin. Yes. Yes. I'm three hundred pounds. My grandmother was wonderful. Like, just starting to just pull apart the thought into something more realistic, which is so many different things can can can be true at the same time. But when you're self loading, everything is clumped into one terrible thought, and and it's it takes a very long time, time line. And I think that that's why it's one of the most complicated mental illnesses to carry. Lorilee Binstock  00:14:45  That's so interesting when you say, like, the self loading and the clumping and putting it all together. Because there are times when I am, like, so angry, Noga Schechter  00:14:50  Oh, yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:14:53  And even though I know that I enjoy multiple things that's happened in the last few days, all of a sudden it's like, god. Noga Schechter  00:14:57  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:01  My life sucks. Everything everything's everything's so screwed up. But the truth is, it's like, Noga Schechter  00:15:02  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:07  it feels like that now. Feels like that when things when you feel like you're stuck, but the truth is there were so many wonderful things dispersed in all of the that that emotion And you're right. It's really hard to unravel that. Noga Schechter  00:15:20  Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I I I you know, some people call it black and white thinking. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:29  Mhmm. Yep. Noga Schechter  00:15:31  It's it couldn't be further from the truth of the universe. It couldn't be further from the truth to to to generalize and to clunk thought. But when you clunks thought to I hate myself all the time, where do you do with that? Where do you go with that? Because she leaves processing that is so can be very difficult. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:53  Yeah. Because I guess you just focus on the one thing that ruins everything. Right? Noga Schechter  00:15:59  Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:15:59  And so then you go to every extreme. Noga Schechter  00:16:02  Every aspect of you. You're rejecting your entire self in this universe. And the last step to that is eating. Right? Like, the food, the restriction of the food, or they're eating too much, or they're only eating specific food, that's the last piece of this of this disease. It's just, like, the very last outcome. The core of it is rejection of or the core of it is is is the inability to process the way you're processing information from the outside world into the inside is Lorilee Binstock  00:16:44  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:16:45  yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:16:47  When did you realize that this was the something needed to change? You said you were over three hundred pounds at one point. When when were you like, wow. I really need need to make a change in my life. Noga. Noga, are you there? No. I think I lost you or maybe you are talking, and I'm no. Were you there? Let's hold on just a moment. Let's see if we can get her back. Noca, can you are you still there? Nogue, are you still there? May I get you? Noga Schechter  00:18:31  I happened. What a glitch. Okay. I'm back. I'm back. Lorilee Binstock  00:18:35  Oh, okay. So, yeah, so I was getting I'm sorry for I can hear you perfectly. Noga Schechter  00:18:40  Do you hear me okay? Lorilee Binstock  00:18:45  What my last question before it dropped was What changed? What made you realize that a change needed to be made? Are you there? Something happened? Noga, can you hear me? Think we've run into an issue. Noga Schechter  00:19:31  Lorly, do you hear me? Lorilee Binstock  00:19:33  I can hear you. Can you hear me okay? Hello? Hello? Can you hear me? Noga. Nogie, can you hear me? Hello? Noga, can you hear me okay? Noga Schechter  00:20:18  Hello? Lorilee Binstock  00:20:18  Hello? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Hello? Noga, can you hear me? Noga, can you hear me okay? Hello, Noga? Nogou, are you there? Can you hear me? No wonder what's happening. Hey, Noga. Noga Schechter  00:22:17  Do you hear me, Lauraly? Lorilee Binstock  00:22:20  I can. Can you hear me? Noga Schechter  00:22:22  Oh my gosh. We're back. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:24  Oh, we're back. You hear me? Can you hear me? Noga Schechter  00:22:26  I can hear you. I'm so excited. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:27  Oh, okay. Noga Schechter  00:22:29  That's so weird. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:30  No. No worries. Noga Schechter  00:22:32  What was that? The universe doesn't make mistakes. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:33  Yes. Well, I want yeah. I I I don't know if you heard my last question, Noga Schechter  00:22:41  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:42  but I did wanna ask when you when did you realize that you needed to make a change. I know you there was a point you said that you got to three hundred over three hundred pounds. Noga Schechter  00:22:48  Yeah. So I had lost Lorilee Binstock  00:22:54  Was it run then? Noga Schechter  00:22:55  well, so I lost a hundred and fifth fifty pounds with a trainer. And eating all the right foods. That took me about thirteen, fourteen months to do naturally. And then shortly after I found myself about seven months later, gained all of it back plus some. And there was this area. There was a point in my life where I was I was Lorilee Binstock  00:23:26  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:23:30  I was right back to where I started. I was I was eating just to fall asleep. And I remember waking up in the morning one day in the rented apartment I was living in Los Angeles, and I was, like, choking on last night's food. And I remember I lived by the beach, and I and I went to the beach. It was, like, sunset. I don't know if you've ever seen a California sunset. It's gorgeous. It's, like, blue. It can turn blue and purple and orange, and and I was sitting outside. And I said, I had this I I don't wanna call it an aha moment because I hate when people Lorilee Binstock  00:24:10  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:24:12  say that. We're such pro we're everything is such progression. You know? But Lorilee Binstock  00:24:17  Right. Noga Schechter  00:24:18  I I did have this moment where I where I said to myself something else is really wrong here. It's not food. It's not what I'm eating. It's not the exercise. Like, something is wrong way past my ability to understand what is wrong. So that was the moment where I first fully understood that I was in a construct. And and so a lot of the spiritual teachers talk about this. I I I I at this point, I was not under any spiritual guidance or I I would I didn't have a spiritual teacher. This is all just very independent. But I I had realized that the entire way I was processing information was off. The entire identity was off. And it's because I was sitting there, and I and I I remember I had this very spiritual awakening. I was looking at the sunset, and I was looking at how beautiful it was. And then I was I was looking at yeah. I was looking at the sunset. I think my dad texted saying it was snowing in New York. Lorilee Binstock  00:25:41  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:25:42  And then I was looking at the ocean, and I was feeling my pain. And I there were so many different things going on at one time. That I then asked myself if there's so many different things going on at one time in this very moment, how can it be that I suck all the time. How can that be possible? If if the sunset over there is really, really beautiful, and that ocean is really, really beautiful. And my dad is texting me about snow. And there are there are so many different things going on right now. How is it? That no good sector sucks twenty four seven. And I have this moment where I'm like, that's impossible. That's far that's not the truth. So why do I keep thinking it? And then I realized I was sick. My brain was sick. The way I was thinking about things was sick. I I was sick. I when I say sick, I don't mean I'm disease. I'm the problem. I I don't mean in that way. I mean, the tools that were I was separating and the tools that were giving to me to do this whole adult life thing were not the correct tools. Lorilee Binstock  00:26:52  You are suffering. Noga Schechter  00:27:00  And they were harming me. And and and I think that was the first moment where I realized that my eating disease and my eating order and all the way in on my body and all these things that I hated so much about myself, had nothing to do with who I really was. Lorilee Binstock  00:27:16  Right. Noga Schechter  00:27:21  And so I checked myself into that week, I checked myself into an eating disorder facility. With a white flag up all the way to the moon. And I remember walking into that place saying, please teach me how to live. Because I don't I don't know how I don't know how to live. And I Lorilee Binstock  00:27:42  No. Noga Schechter  00:27:48  I haven't been in a sense. Lorilee Binstock  00:27:50  Wow. So how did you change your relationship with food because we are exposed to food all the time. And Noga Schechter  00:27:52  Yeah. Yeah. I just had this conversation with one of my coaches a few weeks ago. It was the best conversation. I think we've both had in a long time. Lorilee Binstock  00:28:07  I'd love to hear it. Noga Schechter  00:28:08  Yeah. I'd love to share it. I think the way to heal this isn't just for eating disorder. This is for anything in life. I think the way to heal is to just become indifferent. To the outcome. And so what do I mean by that? I eliminated all anxiety around food. There is no anxiety around food in my brain anymore. I eat cookies. I eat adjust ate of agave potato chips like twenty minutes ago. I eat pizza. I eat pasta. Of course, I eat healthy most of the time. Right? But I eat healthy most of the time out of the place of self love, not out of the place of anxiety, self hate. Lorilee Binstock  00:28:54  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:29:02  I hate my body. I want my way smaller. I don't do that anymore. So so I I eliminated the entire story around food because the story I had around food was was skewed. It wasn't healthy. So Lorilee Binstock  00:29:17  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:29:19  then I realized I was with this trainer who was trying to pack another story about food. A different story. Like, protein and no carbs at night and you know, like, all that story. And then so so so if you have a broken spirit and then you have a broken story about food on that sits on top of the broken spirit. And then you go seek help, and then you get another broken story to put on top of the broken story, on top of the broken spirit, of course, you're gonna wanna gain your way back. Of course, because now your spirit is double broken. Lorilee Binstock  00:29:59  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:30:04  Right? Because you just you just pour you just packed another story Lorilee Binstock  00:30:05  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:30:09  on top of the broken spirit around food. So what I realized is none of the stories are true. The body knows once you quiet down the anxiety. The body knows exactly what it wants. When it when it needs it, what it wants. It knows exactly what to do. And if it doesn't, if it doesn't, that usually means there's a hormonal imbalance, which is great news, great news because if there's a hormonal imbalance, there's ways to treat that. Lorilee Binstock  00:30:41  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:30:42  Right? But if there's no hormonal imbalance, Lorilee Binstock  00:30:43  Right. Noga Schechter  00:30:45  then the body if once you quiet down all the anxiety and all the stories around food, it knows intuitively exactly what it needs when it needs it. And that's that's the journey I went on because I realized that my spirit was broken. And and it hadn't and and so it was the stories around food that I just had to completely eliminate. And and I I I've spent a decade doing that. Lorilee Binstock  00:31:00  So And how do you change those stories? And is is is that what eliminated the anxiety? Is that the is is eliminating the story exactly what's going to eliminate the anxiety around the food. Noga Schechter  00:31:24  Yeah. I wish it were that simple. I wish. I wish I were that simple. The the stories go away when the body normalizes. So everyone's body every human body has a natural balance. For instance, I'm never gonna do that skinny. It's not no it's not my the nature of my body to do that skinny. It's never gonna happen. And if I if it does happen, I may be abusing myself somehow. Right? Because so the most so so what you wanna do first is just what I did, for instance, is I I just treated all food that it would break down in a certain way. And I I did retrain myself into feeling full. So the feeling of full is something that I used to ignore. So, you know, you wanna get past the point of self harm. And so that takes therapy, Lorilee Binstock  00:32:21  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:32:22  meditation, being present, starting to challenge your thoughts. You know, we talked about the spaghetti, the pulling out, the loathing. Right? So one strands out of time. I was just evaluating things that were great. And then the things that weren't great, instead of hating myself for them, I attached incremental actions on how to essentially fix them, which I'm still doing at thirty nine years old. Lorilee Binstock  00:32:47  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:32:48  I'm still doing it. And so what happens over time is the body normal lives, and then you realize, wait if I eat a slice of pizza, I'm not gonna gain five pounds. That's that's not what happened. Maybe you do for, like, a day because you're bloated or whatever, but that's not what happens. Pizza actually is part of the universe. So here's the truth about pizza. It's part of the universe, and it breaks down in in your body as nutrients. It that's the only truth about pizza. And and your body does need a balance of nutrients if you eat pizza. The body will know if you listen to it that that was a lot of carbs, and you might need it'll it might start to crave some chicken. Mine does. Right? So if I if I'll have pizza a few hours later, Lorilee Binstock  00:33:33  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:33:35  like, clockwork. I'll want some chicken or steak or some kind of protein Lorilee Binstock  00:33:39  Right. Noga Schechter  00:33:40  to balance. But take all of those together, and it breaks down into nutrients in your body. I don't attach the pizza as bad, steak as bad, or only eat potatoes at this hour. I don't do that anywhere. I let my body decide. Lorilee Binstock  00:33:57  So is it So when it came to the trauma, did that is is that part of the strand of Noga Schechter  00:34:02  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:34:06  of working each and every bit of trauma that you've experienced out. Noga Schechter  00:34:14  So with trauma relief and trauma healing, first of all, I'm to go viewing that. So That's like a never ending. Lorilee Binstock  00:34:23  It's a constant right. It's a constant journey. Noga Schechter  00:34:24  It's a constant. And and you and you and I talked about this. Right? Like, it's a constant journey. And and and nobody no. First of all, I do wanna tell if any if anyone is suffering from an eating disorder, I just wanna tell you that's beautiful, great news. Because you're gonna have the best journey of your life or healing, and and and it it's such a guest. It's a different way of living. But when it comes to trauma, you know, sometimes you have it in early life. Sometimes you have it midlife and sometimes you have it later. It's only a matter of when. Right? It's not if. It's what. So Lorilee Binstock  00:35:02  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:35:05  the thing about early life trauma like my like, I have what they call complex trauma because it's not necessarily what what I got. It's what I didn't get. Lorilee Binstock  00:35:13  One event. Noga Schechter  00:35:16  Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:35:17  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:35:19  And and the thing about that is, you know, you your first three years of life, your first, like, you know, decade of life, you're coming in from the spirit world or the animal world, as a newborn baby, and then your guardians are then helping to shape your egoic construct to make you successful or make you give you the ability to do well in the man world the man made world, which is what we live day today. So I lacked those skills. So it wasn't just about, you know, sitting with the pain, processing, the trauma. I was also re engineering how how I am to behave. Right? Like, Lorilee Binstock  00:36:03  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:36:04  my soul knows the truth. How do I take that truth and then integrate it in my day to day? Well, if your parents didn't appreciate you for who you were or didn't let you be who you were, you're gonna be hiding that, and you're gonna be hiding behind these actions that are not true to who you are, and that's when eating starts and the inability to process starts. And so it's also the reverse reengineering of that of going back to almost when I was a child saying, okay. How do I learn now? How to be true to myself? How do I learn if I feel something, if my soul is telling me something, if if I feel spiritually about something, that that's a signal. That that's a signal of who noga is. How do I take that signal and push it out into my day to day? That's the healing of the trauma passed the sit passed the the the healing of the pain. Right? So it kinda comes in two stages. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:05  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:37:08  I can't reiterate enough how much I'm still doing that till this day. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:12  Yeah. Yeah. It is an ongoing journey. It's one of those things that it's, like, you know, three steps forward, two steps back, four steps for. It it Noga Schechter  00:37:16  Yes. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:22  it's constantly changing. I think that's that was a big thing for me to understand. Noga Schechter  00:37:26  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:27  Was that oh, I three steps forward, I failed because that's not how it works. And and I feel like I I feel like people told me that it just never clicked, and then one moment it did click, and it was like, okay. I you know, I'm gonna have setbacks. How am I going to pick myself up? And Noga Schechter  00:37:36  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:37:49  learn from whatever setbacks. So, you know, the next time, I'm at least four steps forward before I go a couple steps back. Noga Schechter  00:37:57  Yeah. I I I struggle with it too even till this day, but I think the biggest part is I no longer use food to help process those days. Lorilee Binstock  00:38:08  Mhmm. Yes. Noga Schechter  00:38:09  Now I now I sit with the actual feelings, and then I try to integrate into my day, that's that's the the healing of the eating disorder. By the way, on the flip side of the coin, that's the gift. That's the gift because in this life, very few people get an opportunity to live that authentically to learn how to align themselves with the true essence of who they are into their day to day. It's like we we have no choice but to live with intention. Lorilee Binstock  00:38:48  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:38:50  And so I think, you know, I remember being in treatment, and they were like, they gave me this book. I forget the name of it because I just wanted to throw it across the room. Lorilee Binstock  00:38:58  Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:38:59  And it was it was, like, something about having an eating disorder as a gift. And I was, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:39:05  Oh, I could see where you'd be like, oh my god. You're not there yet. Right? You're not there yet. Noga Schechter  00:39:06  Like, I'm like, how does it get worse than myth? You know? Wow. It's so true. It's so true because you have, you know, to heal. There's no choice but authenticity. Like, I can't even I can't even work Lorilee Binstock  00:39:22  Right. Noga Schechter  00:39:25  on things I don't believe in. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:28  That's a good thing. Noga Schechter  00:39:28  I can't I can't even have a job or, like, I don't wing So everything has to be true because the the thing about overeating or restricting or anything along those lines is that is the last piece, as I mentioned before, it's the last piece of the problem. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:39:45  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:39:46  So So it's a it's been a gift. You know? But the the weight came off a second time through this the the spiritual healing. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:58  And it stayed off. Noga Schechter  00:39:58  And oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Now I exercise every day. I exercise Lorilee Binstock  00:40:02  That's the thing. Noga Schechter  00:40:05  every day. That's it. That's crazy. If you were to tell me ten years ago that I would be waking up every morning at four thirty to make a five AM hit class, I would I would have called you the biggest lawyer in the world, and it's it's interesting. All the anxiety around exercise has gone too. Like, I don't I don't wake up saying, oh, I don't feel like going to the gym. I don't wake up saying, oh, I have to go work out. I don't do any of that. I I wake up and I go, okay. It's time to get up. My body needs to needs some energy. Let's go give it some energy. Lorilee Binstock  00:40:43  Mhmm. Yeah. Noga Schechter  00:40:46  You know? It's Lorilee Binstock  00:40:48  It's it's it's it's interesting how things change when you start to heal, and I think it's it's hilarious what you said about the book when you first got it because you're still in the beginning of the journey. It's like when I was driving in through the gate, at my residential treatment center for trauma. Noga Schechter  00:41:03  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:05  It says, expect a miracle to the front, and it was it's this big sign. Noga Schechter  00:41:09  Oh, oh, that's the you're like, are you crazy? Lorilee Binstock  00:41:10  And I was just like, oh, exactly. Noga Schechter  00:41:13  Like, miracle your way over to the Atlantic Ocean. Okay. Like, Lorilee Binstock  00:41:19  Yep. It was it I I read I will never forget thinking what is whatever. And then leaving when I left was when I was, like, I get it now. I get it now. This is what it's like to start healing. I was there for thirty one days, Noga Schechter  00:41:31  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:35  and Noga Schechter  00:41:35  Oh, you were. Okay. Can I okay? Let me ask you a question. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:36  I was there for Noga Schechter  00:41:39  I wonder if you relate to this, but Lorilee Binstock  00:41:41  Yes. Noga Schechter  00:41:43  Do you look back do you look back at treatment and and tell yourself everyone should do this? Lorilee Binstock  00:41:51  I do. I do. I do. I I feel very fortunate that I was able to, and, you know, I'm careful because Noga Schechter  00:41:55  Right. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:58  I, you know, I wish I could tell everybody, and and insurance does cover it for the most part, but there are a lot of people who can't afford it. Right? So, you know, no. When I got out, I was like, oh my gosh. Whenever I knew someone whenever I talked to someone who is struggling, like, you need to check this place out. Noga Schechter  00:42:05  Right. Right. Totally. Totally. Lorilee Binstock  00:42:15  It's it's it's not cheap. If if insurance won't cover it, it is it's real it Noga Schechter  00:42:16  Right. Right. Right. It's it's astronomical. It kinda makes you wonder Lorilee Binstock  00:42:21  but everyone needs it. Noga Schechter  00:42:23  it yeah. And it just makes you wonder how lacking that education and that's you know, Lorilee Binstock  00:42:28  Exactly. Noga Schechter  00:42:29  it's just so lacking. You know, even till this day, I just found a coach who's probably the best coach I've ever had in my life. Okay? It's taking me thirty nine years to find them in, like, thirteen cities. Right? Like, so so we have to search through the crevices to to get to sometimes get the treatment that we need. And that that makes me sad. Lorilee Binstock  00:42:54  And it does. It's very sad. I went to I went to a step down program Noga Schechter  00:42:55  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:42:59  right after. Right? I went to full residential treatment, and then I had to go somewhere else for a partial hospitalization to kind of just wean my way out of it. Noga Schechter  00:43:07  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:43:09  And it wasn't the same. I I I was like, you know, no. I went to this place, and I was like, Noga Schechter  00:43:11  No. No. It's not. Lorilee Binstock  00:43:16  if I went here first, I would not be where I am now. So that's another thing. You have to weave through the hundreds and thousands of treatment centers out there, and I think that's also the hard part because then you spend your money on a place, Noga Schechter  00:43:25  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:43:33  that is that you it gets decent reviews and good reviews even, but your it doesn't really fully teach you what some others do. Noga Schechter  00:43:44  Okay. Yeah. I think you know the the other tricky part about all this is that it's so individualized, and everybody has different needs. You know? And and so, like, I can generalize Lorilee Binstock  00:43:52  Right. Noga Schechter  00:43:55  a hundred times over and over, but everybody gets different things from different places. And I think we just I, for some reason, you know, I'm a very, very spiritual person. I mean, to the tenth power. This whole process has made me believe in the universe. You know, I believe if you were to see my before picture and you were to see me now, it's not a typical before and after. I look absolutely nothing like I did. Lorilee Binstock  00:44:25  What what happens? Noga Schechter  00:44:26  That's, like, Lorilee Binstock  00:44:27  I'm just curious. What happens when you look back at those the old your old photos of you? Because they're they are drastic, and I am going I I'll try to put it up. I'm gonna try to put it up on the thing. But Noga Schechter  00:44:28  Yeah. I don't eat. It is plastic. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:44:37  how do you feel when you look at those older pictures? Noga Schechter  00:44:40  Interesting question. I just I don't even remember those times. Because I was in so much pain all the time. It it just it scared my ability to even, like, have that much of a memory. Lorilee Binstock  00:45:05  Mhmm. Noga Schechter  00:45:05  I just know that the biggest changes that were made the the one thing I would do think about is that the biggest changes that were made from them to now were not physical. They were not concentrated on food. Or exercise. They were concentrated on finding my truth, connecting with my soul, working on building better friendships, working on on on a construct, like, when we say, you know, the some of the tech geeks out there or people have to say sometimes we're it could be we're in a simulation. We are in a simulation. You're in the simulation of your ego. So so so when I look back when I look back at those photos, Lorilee Binstock  00:45:49  I'm just saying, yeah. Noga Schechter  00:45:53  I just think of all the work I've done reconstructing every aspect of my life, one at a time, and down to I mean, how I how I think about movies and what TV shows I watch, and there's specific music I stopped listening to. Like, certain clothes I won't buy. Like, there's just things that like, I just say, what supports my best self? And and though when I look back at that picture, I think about how different that journey was in comparison to eat this, eat that here at your plan, go to the gym twice a day, see the trainer four times a week, spend all your money on. You know? It's so different. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:40  Well, Noga Schechter  00:46:41  Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:42  what a transformation? I think it's It's amazing. Noga Schechter  00:46:44  Uh-huh. Thank you. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:46  More so emotionally and mentally, which is so impressive, Noga Schechter  00:46:49  Yeah. Thank you. I'm impressed with you. Lorilee Binstock  00:46:51  and so so much to be proud of. Noga Schechter  00:46:54  I'm impressed with you and your podcast and your and your insider magazine and the fact that you let people speak about these things Lorilee Binstock  00:46:54  Oh, you're so sweet. Noga Schechter  00:47:02  I wish we had more outlets. I wish people knew that it's totally okay to be going through this stuff so many people do. And I think the more we speak about it, the better it is for others. Lorilee Binstock  00:47:12  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a in my upcoming magazine, there was a contributor, Rachel Lemmon, who writes about vicarious resilience. The more you listen to other people or see other people's resilience, it builds a little bit of resilience in yourself to help you get to that point. So, yes, we need to keep talking. We need to keep sharing these stories. I think it's extremely important to help so many other people. So thank you. Nope. Noga Schechter  00:47:45  I agree. Oh, with pleasure. With pleasure. I just wish anybody that's going through this knows that It's an absolute gift, and only the the only only the best is yet to come. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:00  Amazing. Well, thank you again for joining me today. I really appreciate it. Noga Schechter  00:48:05  Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. Have a great rest of day. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:08  Absolutely. You too. Noga Schechter  00:48:11  Okay. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:11  That was Noga Shector, mental health and disordered eating advocate. For more information on Noga, you can click there on the scrolling fortune cookie on your screen. Also, Mace issue of Authentic Insiders is out. Check out authentic Insiders at trauma survivor thriver dot com. That's trauma survivor, thriver dot com. If you haven't already, please subscribe to my email list to get authentic insider in magazine in your inbox monthly. Thank you for joining me today. Join me live next week when I speak with Kenneth Nixon Jr. Author of Born into Chaos as he shares his experience with a mother who was mentally ill and how he thinks the mental health care system can be fixed. You've been listening to a trauma survivor Thrivers podcast on Fireside. I'm Laura Lee, Ben Stock. Thank you for being a part of the conversation. Take care.

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I hosted another live fireside chat via Zoom last month. In this podcast episode, I share some of the questions and answers we discussed. As usual, people sent me questions ahead of time. But in this session, we also covered questions raised during the Zoom. For example:* “What is there to write about (related to my profession)?”* “Do I even want a career anymore? Do I want to do something for myself?”* “I changed careers and industries… how can I best adapt to a new job and collaborate with my new boss?” * “How do I find a great product leadership job in this challenging economy?” I recorded the call and uploaded it for this newsletter's podcast episode. Scroll up, hit play, and enjoy! By the way, if you'd like to attend the next fireside chat, I'm hosting it on May 30th. Sign up here to save a seat. I'll be sharing feedback on LinkedIn profiles and answering other questions you submit using the form on the event page. There's still time to send me yours!This week's professional development challengeHi, I'm Larry Cornett, a Personal Coach who can work with you to optimize your career, life, or business. My mission is to help you take complete control of your work and life so you can become a more “Invincible You.” I currently live in Northern California near Lake Tahoe with my wife and our Great Dane. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newsletter.invinciblecareer.com/subscribe

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We are back! In this episode, Dianne & Ethan give an update on what is going on with Deeply Rooted, and what is Ethan & Dianne Jago doing now. We also discuss the practicalities of homeschooling, comparison, fears, and feelings of inadequacy. We then shift into discussing what comparison does to women who are looking at homeschooling and studying theology. The problem that arises from social media and how this influences us in every aspect of our lives. From homeschooling to being a stay-at-home mom, working mom, or women's discipleship leader, or simply looking at studying Scripture. There is a continual compromise that is ongoing across the Evangelical landscape of the church and it is an issue that must be addressed. The issue that is covertly being attacked is against Sola Scriptura or Scripture alone. This episode was recorded by a campfire (hence the title) and you may hear the following: wood crackling creek rustling dog sneezing birds chirping

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This is a LIVE replay of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, May 3rd, 2023 at 1130am ET on Fireside Chat. Lorilee Binstock  00:00:18  Welcome. I'm Lorilee Binstock, and this is A Trauma Survivor Thrivers Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me live on Fireside Chat where you can be a part of the conversation as my virtual audience. I am your host, Lorilee Binstock. Everyone has an opportunity to hop on stage. And, actually, I'm hoping people like to would like to hop on stage and and ask any questions or just chat with me today, but I do ask that everybody be respectful. I am your host, Lorilee Binstock. So please, some you know, I would love for people to share in this conversation. I know while this is an interview format show, I did have a guest. However, I did receive a lot of backlash. From so many people about this I will not name this guest, but I did confirm that she was dealing with some legal issues for alleged fraud and scamming people out of a lot of money. But with that, and trying to respond to everyone who commented on my Facebook page, I felt there really needed to be a conversation around mental health and the realization that you know, hurt people hurt people. And I know I also received backlash. Like, why are you canceling this person? And and I'll get to all of that. But I do ask that, you know, people join me. It looks like I actually have hold on. Let me see if I can get Kelly up on the stage. In it to invite them to speak. Cali is actually my I don't know if you know how to get on stage, but I think there's a button or something that can actually allow you to come on stage. No. I think I have you on stage. Cali, do I have you? So if if Cali is able to speak, she is actually my creative director for the magazine for so for anybody who checks out Authentic Insider Magazine and who's commented how beautiful how beautifully curated the pages are. It's actually all Kelly Benstock. I really, really everything is is really from the contributors, all the beautiful words and pages, the contributors and Kelly. So I do wanna say that. Kelly is done a lot to really beautify the magazine and and make it look legit. So So, Kelly, thank you for that. Can I get you on? Oh, I see that you should you be hearing something? Am I muted? That's my next question. It should be. Let me double check. So I do wanna talk about mental health because, like I said, I've had a lot of people come on and comment about why this person should not come. And I was actually thinking, okay. I'm gonna actually invite this person to come on the show and have her you know, and in question her a little bit about this, not not to be mean, but this is what I've been hearing. What will can you you wanna explain yourself or you want to share your story, your side of the story. The thing is she is I I there was an warrant out for her arrest last Tuesday. So I don't think she could have joined anyways, but I've decided that there were so many people who were really upset about having this guest on I felt that it just didn't fit the show. Right? This the show was called a trauma survivor, Thrivers Podcast. And So most of my guests are people who are trauma survivors who are thriving. And who are inspiring. And it just seemed like there was just a lot of animosity, a lot of anger that was surrounding this guest. And and so I just didn't feel like having this person on would be helpful, but it did make me think, okay. We need to talk about mental health. And there were a lot of people who were commenting that they felt this person was such a compulsive liar that they didn't believe that their trauma even existed. While I'm I'm not I'm not the person to make that decision, or to judge that, there is a I I truly believe she's experienced some sort of trauma. Whether it's a trauma that she says she experience. I'm I'm not sure. I can't that's not my I'm not in that position to make that call. I don't know her personally. But I feel that it's this this idea. Her people, her people, people who've been traumatized, oftentimes traumatize other people. That's why there's a generational trauma. You know, my parents who you know, I was traumatized by my parents. I'm in childhood sexual abuse survivor. You know, my my father sexually abused me as a child, my mother. Well, she's wonderful, and we have a good relationship now. You know, she she even admitted. I think I she told me when I was in college, I think I dealt with postpartum depression. And, you know, back then, nobody really knew much about if any anything about postpartum depression. And so I forgave her that for that. I think she kind of there was this realization our our relationship changed from there. But she still treated me pretty badly growing up. I felt neglected by her. And like I said, while that's not the case now, I did feel neglected by her for the longest time. And that has that caused me some issues. And and there was a point probably when I was in middle school, I didn't know I was dealing with trauma, but I realized that I I I needed a community. I needed friends, and I didn't really have friends. I was often isolated as a child. But when I got into middle school, I knew that I wanted friends. And I felt like the only people who were kind of talking to me were the popular the popular girls And I really, really enjoyed, like, being around them, but they were kind of mean. They were mean to other people, and I felt to be accepted within this group of people, I also needed to be mean or I needed to be like them. And I was I I I'm so ashamed to say. I was a little bit of a bully. Once I got into high school, I was bullied. Then I'm like, oh, it flipped the script. I'm this is this is happening to me, and this is this is pretty terrible. So now I know what it feels like. Right? You just I had things changed for me at that point. However, I was still healing from my trauma. Actually, I wasn't healing it off. High school, I wasn't healing from my trauma. I didn't even know I had trauma. I do wanna check-in. Do I have Kelly? Kelly, are you there? Are you available to chat? I don't know. I'm still, like I feel like there were some new features added on with Fireside. And I'm hoping people can actually hear me right now. Can people hear me? I might be muted, actually. No. I'm not. Well, you know, if we can get Kelly on oh, I see speaker request. Accept request. Kelly, can you hear me?   Cali Binstock  00:08:36  Yes.   Lorilee Binstock  00:08:37  Oh my goodness.   Cali Binstock  00:08:38  Wait.   Lorilee Binstock  00:08:39  K. K. I can hear you.   Cali Binstock  00:08:39  You can hear me. Wow. Okay. Great.   Lorilee Binstock  00:08:42  Yes. So, yes, this is this is Kelly. She like I said earlier, she is the creative director for Authentic Insider Magazine. Reason why the pages are so beautifully curated.   Cali Binstock  00:08:49  Hi.   Lorilee Binstock  00:08:55  That and, again, the create contributors   Cali Binstock  00:08:58  Hello?   Lorilee Binstock  00:08:58  are the ones who really bring the magazine to life. So, Kelly, you know, we've talked about this, and so I'm talking about mental health, and I'm talking about bullying. And I talked about how I was   Cali Binstock  00:09:05  Hi.   Lorilee Binstock  00:09:13  embarrassed to say I was a bully when I was in middle school.   Cali Binstock  00:09:16  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:09:18  Yada yada yada. I got into high school. I was bullied, and then and then I realized, like, oh, okay. This is this is this this is what it feels like, and it feels pretty terrible. But I was a bully because I I I struggled. I I there's something that I needed.   Cali Binstock  00:09:30  No.   Lorilee Binstock  00:09:35  And it was I needed   Cali Binstock  00:09:35  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:09:37  people to like me because nobody really liked me at home.   Cali Binstock  00:09:42  Look at that.   Lorilee Binstock  00:09:43  And, you know, the people who actually showed me some attention were, you know, these these girls who were kinda bullies. I did have a couple friends that were like, my good friends, and they're still my good friends today. But, you know, we they were kind of pulled into all of it as well. And I I have to say, they're good people. They're good people now. I don't know about the other girls.   Cali Binstock  00:10:03  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:10:09  Then I'm sure they're great people. But I I just wanna say it's her say it again. Her people, her people,   Cali Binstock  00:10:17  Definitely.   Lorilee Binstock  00:10:17  and And it's really hard. If you like to understand that, especially if you've experienced trauma, unless you're unless you're on your, like, far into your healing.   Cali Binstock  00:10:25  Right.   Lorilee Binstock  00:10:29  And, you know, I feel like being curious about certain situations when someone's being mean, it's never it's it's almost never about   Cali Binstock  00:10:37  Yes.   Lorilee Binstock  00:10:41  it's it's about the person who is being mean. It's not like   Cali Binstock  00:10:43  Right.   Lorilee Binstock  00:10:44  right?   Cali Binstock  00:10:45  That reminds me of Oprah's I don't think it's that new anymore, but it's like and I heard her talking about it on a podcast. It was like, not what's wrong with you. The question should be, what happens to you?   Lorilee Binstock  00:11:00  Yes. Exactly.   Cali Binstock  00:11:03  You know, and just having that awareness that people are acting from maybe trauma and insecurity and not as much out to get you because nobody cares that much about, you know, you not in not in a bad way, but, like,   Lorilee Binstock  00:11:21  Right.   Cali Binstock  00:11:23  People are so self centric that it's usually their own issues. That they have to deal with. You know?   Lorilee Binstock  00:11:30  I agree. And they're only outlet. Maybe you. Maybe they're so comfortable with you that you are the only outlet.   Cali Binstock  00:11:32  But yeah. Yeah. Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:11:39  Ask my husband. I mean, it's   Cali Binstock  00:11:42  I know when you're really comfy with someone you can be. Alamine.   Lorilee Binstock  00:11:48  yes.   Cali Binstock  00:11:48  Yeah. I'm guilty of it too, for sure.   Lorilee Binstock  00:11:49  Yes. Yeah, a hundred percent. You know, I I talked to Jared about I mean, my husband's Jared. But I talked to my daughter about bullying because she there are times where she's felt bullied. And because she's felt bullied, you know, she comes to me. She's like this person said this, and I'm like, oh my goodness. Well, you know, there's probably something going on with them, and it's not about you. I think that was   Cali Binstock  00:12:05  Mhmm. Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:12:14  that was really important. To   Cali Binstock  00:12:17  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:12:17  my daughter, Olivia, because I feel like you can it's easy to take things personally.   Cali Binstock  00:12:24  Oh, yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:12:24  You know, even when my husband gets mad at me, when Jared, my husband gets mad at me, I can I can take it personally or he's being distant? I take it personally. Oh, you don't you don't love me anymore. You know, this is this is my thing. Right? But the truth is there's just something going on internally with him. Maybe it's work. Maybe it's something else. And I think it's, like you said, what Oser said,   Cali Binstock  00:12:33  Yeah. Yeah. Yes.   Lorilee Binstock  00:12:47  what happened? What did what happened to you?   Cali Binstock  00:12:50  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:12:50  Why are you behaving this way? And I feel like for this person who is not on my show right now,   Cali Binstock  00:12:58  You're right.   Lorilee Binstock  00:12:59  it was I I think we should stop with the and I and with the I don't believe in her trauma because she is such a liar. I think she has experienced some sort of trauma, big tea, trauma, little tea, trauma that made her feel that she needed to scam people out of money. And, you know, in my neighborhood. I live in Washington, DC, and there are a lot of car jackings, car thefts,   Cali Binstock  00:13:31  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:13:32  but it's something that was really interesting that happened. This little while ago, but we have a listserv   Cali Binstock  00:13:37  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:13:38  for moms on the hill, and a woman was saying that her car got broken into. But she didn't say, you know, didn't didn't anyone have any cameras on this in this area. She specifically   Cali Binstock  00:13:50  Oh,   Lorilee Binstock  00:13:51  asked, George said, They stole diapers. They're someone in our neighborhood, in our community who is so desperate for such a necessity that they broke into my car and stole diapers,   Cali Binstock  00:14:03  Oh my god.   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:07  and she wasn't angry. She actually said we should actually do a   Cali Binstock  00:14:09  Right.   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:12  a diaper drive because someone needs it.   Cali Binstock  00:14:14  Hold on.   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:15  And I was like, oh my gosh.   Cali Binstock  00:14:16  The great but a great human she is to,   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:19  Right. Can you imagine if we looked at everything like that? Like,   Cali Binstock  00:14:20  you know, Right.   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:24  we've been we've been harmed. Why? Can how can we help this?   Cali Binstock  00:14:27  Yeah. Well, that's, like, the chain of pain and And if you recognize it, it's the only way to, like, start breaking the chain. You know?   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:39  That's awareness. Mental health awareness.   Cali Binstock  00:14:40  Awareness is always step one. Right? Like, that's where you have to start. And then that's the only place that, like, good action. I guess you would say it would come from.   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:53  Yes.   Cali Binstock  00:14:54  Right? Like, yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:14:57  Good humans. I mean, I can say this all day long, but there will be moments in my life where I'm, like, You know? It's like, I think I did a TikTok a while ago where I'm like, hello, all. I hope you have a wonderful day, and then, like, pretend to honk my horn and   Cali Binstock  00:15:11  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:15:14  yell, like, what the fuck is the matter with you?   Cali Binstock  00:15:17  Right.   Lorilee Binstock  00:15:17  It's really it's really the same thing. It's like, okay, everybody. Make you know, give everyone as a chance, not everyone is experience. You know, everyone's   Cali Binstock  00:15:27  So   Lorilee Binstock  00:15:27  you never know what everyone's experiencing, and then you turn around, you're like, why did they do this? Why did they you know, it's just depending on your day. Right?   Cali Binstock  00:15:30  yeah. Yeah. Well, relationships are if you're not regulated and you're having a gut reaction because things are chaotic, like,   Lorilee Binstock  00:15:38  Right.   Cali Binstock  00:15:43  You have to give yourself grace too, I guess, after those situations.   Lorilee Binstock  00:15:46  Exactly. Yeah. I think it's right. Yeah. I I I think it all comes to, like, this this whole idea the system of regulating your nervous system. Right? We when we're dysregulated,   Cali Binstock  00:15:57  Hey.   Lorilee Binstock  00:15:59  awareness is out the window.   Cali Binstock  00:16:01  Oh, yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:16:02  But it's also one of those things. If you train your yourself to be to will be aware when you're not   Cali Binstock  00:16:10  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:16:10  dysregulated, then it'll it becomes easier when you are dysregulated.   Cali Binstock  00:16:16  Through.   Lorilee Binstock  00:16:17  To be able to respond and not react.   Cali Binstock  00:16:22  Exactly.   Lorilee Binstock  00:16:22  And and so, yeah, I also wanted to talk about cancel culture because I think there were also a lot of people, and I agree with them, people who responded, like, what did this person do. I don't believe in cancel culture. If people canceled me, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now. And I agree with that because   Cali Binstock  00:16:41  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:16:43  and like I said earlier, I mentioned I don't know if you heard, but I mentioned, you know, this person   Cali Binstock  00:16:49  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:16:50  You know, this it just she just it just didn't work with the podcast itself. It's a trauma survivor, Thrivers Podcast.   Cali Binstock  00:16:57  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:16:57  And she's not in a place where she's thriving. And but I think she's in a place where she could start her healing. And I I do hope that for her. I wish that for her,   Cali Binstock  00:17:01  Yeah. Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:17:10  but I also agree, like, you know, canceled culture is just so volatile. Why? We don't need to we we can we can stop giving them attention because when you keep feeding into feeding into this,   Cali Binstock  00:17:22  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:17:24  right, then they'll just start re reacting.   Cali Binstock  00:17:25  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:17:28  But if you give them the space to maybe be able to see what they're doing because you can't shame people into doing things. Let's let's be real here. You can't shame people into doing the right thing. They need to figure it out for themselves. And I think in a a place to be able to do that is a place of quiet,   Cali Binstock  00:17:35  True. Yeah. Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:17:47  and I think cancel culture. It's not that we're canceling you. Like, you're done, but I think it's like I think it's more like   Cali Binstock  00:17:54  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:17:57  Okay. This is your opportunity to make some changes and understand your actions and maybe make some changes and maybe do better and help others do better.   Cali Binstock  00:18:04  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:18:08  And then I think that's when.   Cali Binstock  00:18:08  We all make mistakes, so I guess there's a scale of, like,   Lorilee Binstock  00:18:10  Yes.   Cali Binstock  00:18:14  you know, if someone is a dangerous human, you know, that's one thing, but   Lorilee Binstock  00:18:20  Right.   Cali Binstock  00:18:20  making mistakes and I don't know. I just it makes me think about people in jail and just the amount of incarceration in our in our country, and it just seems insane.   Lorilee Binstock  00:18:38  No. It does.   Cali Binstock  00:18:39  But how many how many people and mostly people of color in in jails for smaller crimes, and   Lorilee Binstock  00:18:44  Mhmm.   Cali Binstock  00:18:47  and, you know, the perpetuating cycle with poverty, and it's just it's not a it's it's not usually a place of rehabilitation.   Lorilee Binstock  00:18:59  Yeah.   Cali Binstock  00:18:59  It's a place of a lot of with a lot of toxicity. I'm sure they're I mean, I taught art at at our county jail here in Pittsburgh briefly. I wasn't there a long, long time, but I believe in in, you know, rehabilitation, and I think setting people up for reintegration, and it's just crazy. We don't have more mental health support for for these people.   Lorilee Binstock  00:19:28  Yeah. I I think that's that's that's the issue here. The our mental health care system in America is so dysfunctional.   Cali Binstock  00:19:39  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:19:39  There's there's not enough going on. There's just not not enough people I mean, who can afford it really? I mean, it's very expensive   Cali Binstock  00:19:47  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:19:49  to get mental health treatment in America. And to get good mental health, specialized health   Cali Binstock  00:19:55  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:19:56  care, that's that's that it it's it's so rare. Yet we there's all these other issues that we're dealing with. But if we can if we can, like, get to the root of it, which is, like, our mental health care system, we could probably fix a lot more things.   Cali Binstock  00:20:08  Mhmm. Right. Like the the domino effect of that would be so worth it, so worth investing in.   Lorilee Binstock  00:20:14  Mhmm. Yes. Inquiry. But but that's the question is if someone's you know, I I'm sure there's hundreds and hundreds of people all over America trying to work on how are we gonna get there. It's just it is a it's a it's a very daunting task. And and,   Cali Binstock  00:20:35  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:20:36  you know, that's why I'm kind of hoping, like, for all of us, it's just we're working on ourselves. I I'd like if if each individual   Cali Binstock  00:20:44  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:20:46  can work on themselves, I think that that that right there is growth. And,   Cali Binstock  00:20:49  No.   Lorilee Binstock  00:20:52  again, it's that easily said, not easily done.   Cali Binstock  00:20:57  Right.   Lorilee Binstock  00:20:58  And but I I mean, I feel like talking about it, bringing awareness to it,   Cali Binstock  00:21:04  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:21:05  you know, I think that's everything. I think that that that's why we're having this conversation. I could have easily canceled the show.   Cali Binstock  00:21:11  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:21:14  But it really Cali Binstock  00:21:14  Cancel all the color. Lorilee Binstock  00:21:16  cancel culture. Yes. I but I really could not sleep just thinking about all of the stuff that was happening. Cali Binstock  00:21:23  Mhmm. Lorilee Binstock  00:21:23  And and so I did wanna briefly kinda touch on this and and, you know, have this conversation   Cali Binstock  00:21:31  Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:21:32  because, you know, I, myself, was just dealing with trauma. I did awful things. That I am absolutely not proud of. I am very lucky that social media didn't exist when I was a child.   Cali Binstock  00:21:41  Mhmm.   Lorilee Binstock  00:21:47  And   Cali Binstock  00:21:48  I know. How lucky were we?   Lorilee Binstock  00:21:50  I I mean, we were so lucky. It it scares me to think, like, if social media existed, twenty   Cali Binstock  00:21:57  God.   Lorilee Binstock  00:21:58  years ago, I'd be screwed.   Cali Binstock  00:22:01  Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:01  I'd be screwed.   Cali Binstock  00:22:02  My my late teens and twenties, like, I would rather not   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:04  Mm-mm.   Cali Binstock  00:22:06  have any evidence of that.   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:06  Yes. Right. Exactly.   Cali Binstock  00:22:09  And I hardly do, which is wonderful because   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:12  Exactly.   Cali Binstock  00:22:12  that was, like, traumatic in itself just that time of life.   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:13  Yeah.   Cali Binstock  00:22:17  You know, just you don't know. There's so much doubt. And if you've been through trauma, like, ugh,   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:17  Right.   Cali Binstock  00:22:24  it's just the hardest time you're not gonna Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:28  Yep.   Cali Binstock  00:22:29  So much   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:29  No. I agree.   Cali Binstock  00:22:30  painful growth. You know?   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:32  Painful growth. And and I think that's what's really hard about our youth now because, you know, And that's why that's another reason why I think we we shouldn't cancel these kids. Their their brains are still developing. We don't know what they've gone through. I think it just everything deserves, like, a deeper look and   Cali Binstock  00:22:44  Right. Yeah.   Lorilee Binstock  00:22:51  curiosity of other people and curiosity within yourself. Yeah.   Cali Binstock  00:22:56  Totally. Totally. I think we were when we were chatting before this, like, this is so random, but my kids had it's actually dated from, like, the early two thousands. It's the show on Nick that was on Nick Junior, that Bill Cosby, it's called Little Bill. And it was on, like, a DVD they were watching. And I just, like, randomly start thinking about, like, I wonder how he feels about everything   Lorilee Binstock  00:23:19  Mhmm. Yep.   Cali Binstock  00:23:28  Is he remorseful? Like, what I wonder if he's doing anything to better himself now? Like, all of these questions, I'm like, that could be asked for so many people.   Lorilee Binstock  00:23:37  Mhmm.   Cali Binstock  00:23:38  But, like, I don't know. I'm just it's just a thought. Like, I'm guessing we, as a society, would be more welcoming to people who were working on, you know,   Lorilee Binstock  00:23:51  Right.   Cali Binstock  00:23:52  the mistakes that they've made and trying to kinda reform themselves and, you know, have more awareness and understand the hurt and kind of, like,

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This is a LIVE replay of A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast which aired Wednesday, April 26th, 2023 at 1130am ET on Fireside Chat. Today's guest is Jamie Mustard, Co-Author of the book the Invisible Machine: The Startling Truth About Trauma and the Scientific Breakthrough That Can Transform Your Life. For more information about the Dual Sympathetic Reset Procedure, visit The Stella Center. Lorilee Binstock  00:16:58  Welcome. I'm Lorilee Binstock, and this is A Trauma Survivor Thriver's Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me live on Fireside Chat, where you can be a part of the conversation as my virtual audience. I am your host, Lorriely Benstock, Everyone has an opportunity to ask me or our guest questions on this show by requesting a hop on stage or sending a message in the chat box. I will try to get to you, but I do ask that everybody be respectful. Today's guest is Jamie mustard, co author of the book, The Invisible Machine, The startling truth about trauma and the scientific breakthrough that can transform your life. Jamie, thank you so much for joining me today. Jamie Mustard  00:17:55  Thank you for having me. I'm sorry. I've not used this platform before, so I'm just having technical difficulties. Lorilee Binstock  00:18:02  Oh, you are not the first one, and you will be the last So there's no worry there. I'm just glad we were able to get you on because I really am so fascinated by this because I've actually never heard about this. You co authored this book, the invisible machine, the startling truth about trauma, and the scientific breakthrough. Jamie Mustard  00:18:05  Perfect. I Lorilee Binstock  00:18:19  And this you did this with doctor Eugene Lipov. An anesthesiologists who developed this treatment. Could you actually describe it? Because you actually underwent this treatment. Correct? Jamie Mustard  00:18:30  I did. And one of the reasons, you know, a lot of people would ask kind of why would an artist coauthor look with, you know, Yuzhou Lab is more than a anesthesiologist. He's a you could say he's the Einstein of modern anesthesiology and a a scientist. So the question is, you know, why would write her all go author a book with that guy? And and the answer is kind of your your the way you kinda said at the top that you'd never heard of it. And the reason you've never heard of it is because it's been around for twenty years, and the military is using it. Yeah. And the military is used doing fifteen to twenty thousand of these a year. The second largest cohort getting it is sexual assault victims. Lorilee Binstock  00:19:04  Stop, really. Jamie Mustard  00:19:12  When I saw this, I saw something that, you know, whenever you see it on it's been on sixty minutes. It's been on Joe Rogan. It's been on CBS this morning. But when if you ever see it in the media, it's always at the extremes. It's always a navy seal, a fur a nine eleven first responder, when I came across this, I didn't see this as something for people at the extreme. I saw this as something that maybe could be affecting forty to fifty percent of the US and global population. So my work was to go, hey. This is not for the extreme. This is for society and everyone that is experiencing the symptoms that are associated with fight or flight that may never have even associated themselves with trauma. Lorilee Binstock  00:20:03  I mean, to be honest, I never associated myself with trauma. I'm a childhood sexual abuse survivor, and I didn't realize I experienced trauma. I thought that was just something really bad that happened that I will never talk about, but you're right. I feel like that this is very fascinating, and it's a non invasive outpatient procedure? Jamie Mustard  00:20:23  Okay. So, yeah, you asked me what it is. I wouldn't use the word noninvasive. I would use the word safe. Lorilee Binstock  00:20:27  Okay. Jamie Mustard  00:20:29  And minimally invasive. It's basically, he uses a needle to do what we well, we know it's safe because the shot was originally developed retaining hands in nineteen twenty six. It's now evolved. The doctor kind of reconfigured it and evolved it. So you it's now we call it he's evolved into what we're calling what he calls the dual sympathetic reset. And, basically, what you're doing is you're doing a pain injection that's guided that's guided by an ultrasound. You get a local anesthetic first, so you don't even it feels like nothing. And he uses an ultrasound to guide a needle that has a tiny you know, so a small amount of anesthetic in it, the same anesthetic that goes into an epidural, same two dollar amount of anesthetic that goes into an epidural. And your sympathetic nervous system is basically located in the ganglion, which is a nerves a a a a a a a a string of nerves that run from your amygdala all the way down your but your sympathetic your fight or flight system is in your neck on both sides of your neck. And what he does is he in inject this. God, I think it's I'm gonna get the name of it wrong. But yeah. But it's the same it's the same, you know, Lorilee Binstock  00:21:45  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  00:21:47  stuff that goes into an epidural. And what it does is it turns off your sympathetic nervous system, and it comes online about ten minutes later at baseline to the pre trauma state. So you're basically resetting the sympathetic nervous system. And what we're fine with what what they found is, you know, the adult trauma or blunt force trauma is on the right side. You can only do one side per day. K? You do two injections on one side, and then you can get the next injection the next day. Anything before puberty or childhood trauma is on the left side. And then yeah. So they'll always do the right side first, and then people that will have have had trial to hood trauma Lorilee Binstock  00:22:27  Well, Jamie Mustard  00:22:30  may not experience the reset. So they're starting more and more to to to both on almost everybody. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:40  Wow. You know, I I and, you know, I know about fight or flight, and I didn't know it was about a cluster of nerves in your neck. I'm wondering, is this why I have neck pain? Jamie Mustard  00:22:49  It might be I mean, you have to think of it like this. Well, first of all, Laura Lee, let me say thank you so much for having me. It's, you know, just a real honor to be here. Lorilee Binstock  00:22:57  Oh, of course. Jamie Mustard  00:23:00  You know, you there's two things that causes. One is blunt force trauma. Like, you and I are very Well, we're similar in this regard. I experienced an extreme massive amount of trauma as a kid probably that most people would never not be able to survive in any sort of meaningful way and live my entire life up until, I don't know, five years ago, seven years ago. Where I was in total denial that I'd even been traumatized. You know, in my in my upbringing, you know, growing up how I grew up is where I grew up in the neighborhood I grew up in. You know, being a victim was the last thing you could ever be. So I never Lorilee Binstock  00:23:30  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:23:39  the thought of thinking of myself as a victim was just not in my, you know, just in my in my thought profile. So I just didn't think I had trauma. I got therapy for the first time five or six years ago with your counseling. After about six weeks. This very lovely. I talked about this in the book. Therapists diagnosed me with, you know, acute post traumatic stress disorder. And it's not a disorder. It's actually a physical injury to the body, and you can see it on a brain scan. But she diagnosed me with PTSD. I laughed in her face, because I thought it was such a ridiculous thing. She her eyes walled up, and she looked at me And she said, Jamie, have you been listening to the stories you've been telling me? And I said, yes. And she said, how could you not? And in that moment, my whole kind of bullshit life narrative fell apart, and I kinda went home and hugged the cactus. I I started, you know, realizing not only you know, I I not only has I had I've been victimized. I had been you know, just completely savaged and ravaged as a child, you know, abandoned you know, at birth with strangers, you know, very little physical touch in and out of institutional environments. You know, all this stuff It was, you know, just severe, egregious trauma, and I was just like, wow. You know, that's normal. That's what I knew. Lorilee Binstock  00:25:11  Well, Jamie Mustard  00:25:15  Yeah. So so about five or six years ago, when my my first book came out, maybe it's less, maybe it's, you know, or maybe it was before that. I was starting to get to kinda where I wanted in life, and I for the first time ever was looking back. You know, I didn't wanna look back. But when I was getting what I wanted, my discomfort as a person wasn't going away. In my mind, I thought, god. If I'm just successful, I'll feel relaxed. And I was getting successful and feeling very unrelaxed, but actually more dis more uncomfortable than I'd ever felt, and I couldn't understand why. So I started when I got this post traumatic stress diagnosis, I started looking. I was friends I turned a literary juke with a a really well known military psychologist, Shawna Springer, Doc Springer, and she had started She was sending people for this procedure, and I ended up in the middle of COVID to have years ago, getting on a plane in the middle of COVID and going to Chicago in the winter to do this kind of what I thought was a very avant garde procedure. And it was very strange that I did that literally because when you grew up, like, raised by wolves or kinda thrown away like I was, you don't go to the doctor. So you don't go to regular doctors. Let alone go and do kind of new treatments. Lorilee Binstock  00:26:41  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  00:26:45  But I I when my first book came out, I had a very well known forensic psychologist named doctor j Faber, who works at Amen Clinic. He was a fan of my book, and he and I become friends. And so I just said as a friend, can you bet this thing for me? And it was all upside and no downside. And so I almost backed out fifty times, but I did it. Lorilee Binstock  00:27:11  Can you tell me what that was like? Jamie Mustard  00:27:13  Oh my gosh. Yes. It was the most transformative thing that I've ever done in my life, it completely changed my worldview. And that is because it was like, I had a lot of judgment towards people, you know, towards people where I grew up the bad neighborhoods where I grew up towards addicts. Towards people that were, you know, couldn't get their life together. I had judgment. K? When I had when I got both sides of this thing done, the discomfort that I'd been experiencing my entire life that I thought was a part of me I won't you know, was gone. It was just like I was me. I didn't feel I didn't even know I couldn't feel that way. I didn't even know because, like, when you're abandoned at birth, what's your I I never even experience baseline. Okay? Lorilee Binstock  00:28:04  Well, mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:28:07  So it I'm ever walking this is a good way to describe it. I was walking down the street after getting it in Chicago. I went to the Chicago Art Museum. I was there with friend who is supporting me. And I saw these, like, hustler guys on the street, and they were like and they were looking at me. And I kind of you know, that's something that's triggering for me. I really resent that because it kinda reminds me of my neighborhood, and these guys were looking at me like a mark. And, normally, that would make me mad. When I saw these guys, all of a sudden, I didn't see crazy people. I didn't see hustlers. I saw their biology. These guys are stuck in fight or flight. And I can explain to you what happens, but, you know, you don't need blunt force trauma. Like, what you and I went through to need this. The I think the biggest cause of this and why I think it's such a massive swath of the population, and why I think most people that have post traumatic stress. Don't even associate with trauma. You can get is that what one, two things cause this. One is blunt force trauma like what would happen in war seeing your buddy killed in front of you Lorilee Binstock  00:29:10  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:29:11  or a sexual assault. But the other thing that causes this, and I think it's the much more predominant cause is prolonged allostatic load, chronic stress over time. Okay? And so Lorilee Binstock  00:29:28  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  00:29:29  just so by by feeling that sense of comfort, my own body, and sense of relief. My it changed the way just I interact with people now when I see somebody reacting in fight or flight towards me rather than taking it personally or thinking they're crazy. I understand the biology of it, so it just I just I I have only compassion. Lorilee Binstock  00:29:54  That's amazing. That's amazing. And I and I feel that You're right. I feel like I don't know, like, probably ninety, even more than that percent of the population has dealt with chronic stress, especially in America. And I feel like, you know, everyone can benefit from from, you know, a a treatment like this. I feel like that there's every a lot of people everyone I know deals with a lot of stress and a lot of anxiety. And for something like this to be available and to you say twenty years. I'm like, what? I just heard about this, like, last month. And so I'm intrigued. Does this treatment need to be accompanied by ongoing therapy or or or what? What would you suggest? Jamie Mustard  00:30:43  It it it's a it's a great question, and and I'd like to answer it, and then I'd like to kinda back up and explain very specifically how one could get this and how a lot of your listeners right now are are going, well, do I have trauma and I know it? And how would you know it? And but something he's saying is resonating to me. So look with me. So I wish I could understand this more. So let me kind of explain the kind of how it works with other therapies. And then let me kind of back it up and explain why and how I came to write a book with who I think made the most preminent most important medical discovery since the discovery of Penicillin in nineteen twenty eight. And I would compare it as a human discovery to the moon landing. If we can reset the nervous system, it changes the world. And so I think this guy will go on to win the Nobel Prize because even if you compare it to the polio vaccine, you know, suicide is linked to fight or flight. If you, you know, fifty thousand people a year stopped dying because when they when the polio vaccine was discovered, I think, in the forties, That the amount of suicides this could could prevent in a year dwarfs that number compared to all the other ailments and physical conditions because this conduct if you have an a a novactive sympathetic nervous system, if your nervous system is stuck in fight or flight, you're gonna have a cascade of physiological problems. It discombobulates the immune system. It destroys this scavenger system in the body, Lorilee Binstock  00:32:13  Right. Jamie Mustard  00:32:15  which is the system that is constantly, you know, keeping you from having autoimmune diseases, orthopedic problems, cancer, that system can get discombobulated. Right? So, you know, if the body keeps the score, that I would say this is the scorekeeper. But I think maybe backing it up and and and and kind of coming to how did I come to write an artist and and our come to write a book with a a a scientist. Right? But so, basically, I went and did this thing. My life was changed. And a couple months later, I got invited by two colonels that run all the training for special forces. To speak to come to Fort Bragg and speak to special forces at JFK auditorium regarding my book, The Iconist, okay, which is kind of like a Malcolm Gladwell type book to business communications and art book. And it was kind of crazy. You know, I'm a kid from the strums slums of LA, and all of a sudden, I was going to Fort Bragg and teaching site, you know, psychological operations how to create better counter propaganda against the Russians and the Chinese. You know, I mean, it's crazy. That I would be in that situation. So I got invited to Fort Bragg. When I got this procedure, the doctor came into the wait into the to the host op room. And he said, hey. And I wish I'd get it from the inventor, doctor Eugene La Bauch, my co author. And he said, hey. I was told to treat you like a VIP. Why? And I said, well, I'm an author, and we have a mutual friend. So our mutual friend, you know, I have a bit of a platform, you know, probably wanted to make sure I was taken care of. And then he left again, and then he came back. And he said, listen. This procedure is gonna this I mean, I get what what are you this the try this anesthesia, this thing that you just got in your neck, it's gonna wear off in about seven or eight hours. Can I pick you up at the hotel and take you to dinner? And we we talk about this in the book. And I said, Sure. You know, why not? And so he picks me up from the hotel. We go to this Mexican restaurant, this fancy Mexican restaurant with the windows open. It's raining. In the middle of COVID. The wind is blowing through, and he starts pouring glasses of expensive red wine. And download and gives me a three hour download of the science and history of this thing. And my mind and my my just mouth my jaw fell up. And I remember turning to my friend who was at the dinner with us. He kinda sped off in his Tesla. We Ubered home, And I turned to my friend and I said, we just had dinner with the smartest human being I've ever met. And, you know, I've met a lot I mean, I went to the one in school then economics. I know a lot of smart people. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:35:04  Wow. Jamie Mustard  00:35:07  So so he and I so then a few I get back to Portland a few days go by, and I get a call from this guy, and he says, hey. I just read your book. And we just started talking, and we became friends. Right after that, I got invited to Fort Bragg. And I and the doctor couldn't believe that I was being invited to Fort Bragg by these colonel. So he said, hey. Can I come sit in the audience for your talk? I know they're doing my procedure at Fort Bragg, but they won't talk to me. I don't know how. So basically, I talked to these colonel. They had never heard of this thing, the DSR at that time. It was called the FGB, the slight gainly a block. But they started researching it. They called me back, and they said, yeah. We're doing ten of these a day, six days a week. They're they were doing three thousand a year Fort Greg alone. Lorilee Binstock  00:35:57  And was this on active military? Jamie Mustard  00:36:01  Yes. Lorilee Binstock  00:36:03  Interesting. So Jamie Mustard  00:36:04  So Lorilee Binstock  00:36:05  go ahead. Jamie Mustard  00:36:05  yeah. No. So the VA was probably doing more. But the lot what really, what happened is there was a post traumatic stress, meaning where I got really upset because I had to sit in you know, the colonel's arranged ten days of meetings. Even though it was six weeks away, it normally takes seven months to a year to get grand rounds at Wilmac. Doctor Lipa, the Dunground rounds at Walter Reed, the colonels arranged for the doctor to come with me and do Grand Rounds for all the doctors at Womack because they were doing the procedure at Fort Bragg based off of the ten year old paper. So it was to bring them into all the modifications because ten years ago, this thing was seventy percent effective in the relief post traumatic stress. Now it's up to eighty and five to ninety percent. So because of latest modifications. So he did ground rounds. And in one of the post traumatic stress meetings, I sat around for two hours and listened to these guys and come back from Iraq and Afghanistan and special forces guys. And their stories, and they were all told that they had a disorder, and it made me really angry because at that point, I knew one hundred percent that they had a physical injury to their body and that post traumatic stress disorder does not exist. It's post traumatic stress injury, is it physical injury to the body? You can see it on a brain scan. So at the end of that meeting, I expressed my rage at the fact that these guys are sacrificing their bodies, their families, their wives, their children. They don't come back the same. And then they're being then their government is telling them they're crazy. It may be mad. And I said that. And so I think the guy that runs the health initiative task force, I think he was kind of you know, he kinda saw me as this Arty Rider guy. He didn't know what to make of me. But when I expressed my truth. I think he kinda started to respect me, and he called me over at the end of the meeting. And he said, Jamie, have you ever heard of operator syndrome? And I said, no. And he showed of these symptoms on his phone. It was about eight symptoms. And the the symptoms that you would experience if you were running from a tiger Okay? And I and and that this is what happens if you're never in a fight or fight at Fort Black bragging. Or to say, you're never in a fire fight in Afghanistan or Iraq, but you just you're deployed at a firebase, and you have the stress of being away from your family, and maybe you could die that day from an IED or from something else. Right? So it's this prolonged allostatic load, but you're never in a fight. They call that operator syndrome. Okay? And when I saw that list of symptoms, Laura Lee, I didn't see the military. I saw the Mexican neighborhoods where I grew up in Los Angeles. And so my mind started spinning. Could it be that the stress of poverty or if you're middle class and the stress of having distant parents, a mother that needles you, a mean father, could it be that the chronic stress of that, a divorce could cause the exact same biological injury as someone coming back from war. Because the sympathetic nervous system is a machine, an invisible machine, hence the name of the book, the invisible machine. Could it be that that it doesn't think it's apathetic. So could it be that average people have the exact same symptoms in their body as someone coming back from war, but they don't know it because they just got it from having, you know, parents that didn't hug them. Or talk to them a certain way. And that and that's where my mind met doctor Lipov's staggering innovation. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:28  Yeah. I mean, that affects the majority of people. Right? These are these they they are considered, I guess, little tee traumas, but the react the reaction and the activation within the you know, the amygdala, it's all the same. Right? Jamie Mustard  00:39:46  Yeah. I mean, let me kinda tell you kind of how let me kind of give a primitive way of how one gets this. Lorilee Binstock  00:39:51  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:39:51  And then go and why don't I go over the seven symptoms? That way, the people listening can go, well, I don't have trauma. Then they can listen to me, list it, and they go, maybe I do. Right? Lorilee Binstock  00:40:01  Please. Please. Jamie Mustard  00:40:01  So yeah. So listen. I people, like, at the extreme, were seeking this out and finding it. But people like me were not and and, again, I wasn't the extreme. I just didn't know it. And I you know, my goal was to bring this to military My goal is to bring this into the light, and I think it should be more popular or known than LASIK. It contains the way we we interact. As a species. But, basically, you have to think of it as if you were running from a tiger. You know, you live in a jungle, you know, a bounce years ago, you're and you're and you're a tiger comes out of nowhere. Well, in the moment, It's Peter Levine's work. That guy, he wrote a book, I think, in the yeah. In the was it in the eighties or nineties cold run? Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:40:43  Yeah. Awaken. Awaken the tiger. Jamie Mustard  00:40:48  Yeah. Running from the tiger. Yeah. Yeah. Lorilee Binstock  00:40:48  An unspoken voice. Yeah. It's a yeah. Awaken the Tiger. Yes. I've read I've read the unspoken voice of Peter Levine. I'm fascinated with somatic experiencing. But, yes, continue. Jamie Mustard  00:40:55  Okay. Okay. So, say, a tiger comes out of nowhere. You live in the jungle a thousand years ago. Well, what is gonna happen in that moment? Is you're gonna have seven or eight symptoms. K? You're gonna have seven or eight feelings. Your amygdala is gonna send a signal to these nerves on each side of your neck, and that's gonna jerk you into response. So you are walking on you're hiking up a mountain, and there's a cliff, and you almost slip and fall down it. Your amygdala sends a signal you signal to these are you on the swerve your car and hit somebody, but just you avert the accident just in time because your amygdala sends a signal to these nerves in your neck that jerk you in action to either flee or fight for your life. K? Fireflies. Lorilee Binstock  00:41:40  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:41:40  Well, typically, if that happens and it's something like swerving your car, you're heightened for five maybe three to five hours because you felt like you almost died. And then for for, you know, four or five hours later, you'll come back down to baseline. Right? But if the trauma is too great, like your buddy being killed in front of you, or you or then or a sexual assault, and you have this overwhelming trauma. The your your sympathetic nervous system actually gets locked into fire flight. So you're locked into feeling like you're running from a tiger twenty four hours a day, three hundred and sixty five days a year, seven days a week. K? So what would you experience if a tiger or leap out of you? You would experience anxiety. You'd be anxious that the tiger was gonna kill you. You'd have mild paranoia that the tiger was right there at that that moment. You would have a sense of doom. You'd feel like the other shoe is gonna drop every second because you knew the tiger was right there. You would be hyper vigilant about the tiger. You would be hyper aroused about the tiger. You wouldn't be able to sleep because you can't sleep if a tiger is chasing you. You would be highly reactive and have a hair trigger because you would need to be reactive to survive the tiger. Lorilee Binstock  00:42:49  Right. Jamie Mustard  00:42:55  K? And these guys that come back from Afghanistan and Iraq, a massive majority of them, something like twenty five percent of them all have erectile dysfunction because you can't have sex if you're running from a tiger. In the military, the ultimate form of fight, and the ultimate form of flight in the military, suicide, is the ultimate form of flight where people are changing to protect. It's the ultimate form of flight. In the neighborhoods where I grew up where maybe violence is acceptable, or life is cheaper, homicide is the ultimate form of fight. So I believe when you see these violence rates in the community that I live in, and you see these suicide rates in the military, it is one hundred percent an overactive sympathetic nervous system. So when you experience those symptoms, you can get that say the tiger never eats you. You're just in a jungle where there's lots of tigers. So you're you're carrying the stress of the type of tigers all the time. K? It it would be a it would be a survival mechanism. It would be a survival tool to be locked in firefly. It actually would help you to survive. K? The problem is if you're sitting at home watching Netflix, you know, eating Cheetos, and drinking, you know, a LaCroix, and you're feeling that way, it creates a really, really big problem. And and think about it also like this. We're meant to experience those symptoms, anxiety, paranoia, sense of doom or mild paranoid, hyper vigilant, hyper aroused, a lack of sleep, hair trigger reactivity. We're meant to experience that for about thirty seconds where we either flee from the tiger or we fight the tiger. K? And then we're supposed to calm down and be normal as humans. K? Those are supposed to be short bursts. Lorilee Binstock  00:44:43  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:44:46  Of fight or flight. If you have to experience like a tiger is gonna eat you in every second, twenty all the time. Which is what happens when your sympathetic gets stuck in fight or flight. You're gonna you're not gonna wanna live. You're gonna wanna kill yourself. We're not designed to wanna live like a tiger is gonna eat us every second. You're gonna either wanna kill yourself or you're gonna wanna kill somebody. Right? So there was a guy named Frank Oport who defined Lorilee Binstock  00:45:13  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  00:45:16  Stockholm syndrome, for the in the nineteen seventies for the FBI, and he's a very famous psychiatrist. And and in two thousand twelve, He's been working since two thousand twelve. He's been working very hard with others to try and get the name changed from post traumatic stress disorder. To post traumatic stress, injury, PTSD. So can I keep going? I don't you know, I don't be able to Okay. So okay. Okay. No. So so Lorilee Binstock  00:45:44  Of course. Yes. Keep going. No. This is fascinating. Jamie Mustard  00:45:49  so let's back it up. So let so everyone's different. Like, the You can, to a child, a father that is distant, a mother that needles you, that allastatic load for a child is staggering. And that person would not associate themselves with trauma. So I'm trying to get this away from just the extremes. I want those people to get it, but I'm trying to bring this to it. Kindergarten teachers, yoga instructors, plumbers, CEOs, accountants, attorneys. I'm trying to bring this to the every person. Right? But, you know, I think a really good way to explain this is Back at nineteen seventy, doctor Frank Ochberg, this guy that came up with a term post traumatic stress injury, And, again, you can see this on a brain scan, Laura Lee. So if I if someone has an overactive sympathetic nervous system and I scan their brain with a functional MRI, I will see overactivity in their amygdala, and I will see decreased blood flow to their frontal cortex. Normally to g to fix to kind of mitigate against that, and then we're gonna get after I explain this, we'll get to how it relates to other therapies. Normally, to mitigate against that, I might need six months of hyperbaric, no drugs and alcohol, Cademy, so as you know, I could do a million things, and I would only mitigate against that so much. To and I could get some decrease in that overactivity in the amygdala from all those therapies for years. And maybe I would get some increased blood flow to my frontal cortex. If you do this injection where you just reset the nervous system with no side effects no long term side effects. There's a side effect that day. They get you get it. And then the second day, you get it. And then by the evening of both days, it's gone. If you get the reset, you you're just a person again, and you're not having to use all these things to it's like physical therapy in a broken leg. You wouldn't do physical therapy over a broken leg. You'd set the leg, then you'd do physical therapy. So all these incredible therapies work but we're doing them over a broken leg. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:03  Right. Jamie Mustard  00:48:08  And so what you would see on a brain scan after doing a DSR dual sympathetic reset is that overactivity in the amygdala would be gone in a day. It'd be completely gone, and you have increased blood flow to the your frontal cortex in a way that that years of all those other modalities combined would never achieve. Because you're doing physical therapy over a broken leg. It also when you when you call it a disorder, it's incredibly stigmatizing, and you could even say inhumane if it's a lie, which it is because it's actually a physical injury of the body. So it's like, if you we don't have broken leg syndrome or broken leg disorder. When you call something a mental disorder that's actually a physical injury, it's very harmful. Incredibly stigmatizing. But if you call it a physical injury, you take all the stigma away. No one has a stigma for over you having a broken leg because you can see it. Lorilee Binstock  00:48:59  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  00:49:08  You can't see an overactive sympathetic, but it's just as broken as a broken leg. It's the best metaphor to describe it. And that's why we call the book the Invisible Machine, the StarLink truth about Trauma, and the scientific breakthrough that can transform your life. But what I'd like to do, Lorely, and then I'll kind of back up and answer your question next question. I think I think this is the best way for people to understand and and and unequivocally that what I'm saying is true. Like, I can hear people listening right now going, is that true? Is that true? Come on. How can it be a physical injury? I'm gonna say, well, here's how it's a physical injury. When I explain this, no one no one will question it anymore. K? Because I'll give you an an analogy that everyone can understand. Back in nineteen seventy, doctor Frank Ochberg published a book with a one through Stanford, scientists, the guy that came up with PTSD in two thousand twelve back in nineteen excuse me. He published a book called violence and the struggle for existence. That book was put out by Little Brown, It was the the the forward to that book was written by Caretta Scott King, the wife of doctor Martin Luther King because it was two years after his assassination. Violence in the struggle for existence. In that book, there is a chapter called biology and aggression. And and what what what these scientists explain is we one hundred percent know that trauma is biological. And the reason we know it, we don't know how, but the reason we know it is because if you beat or abuse a dog, a goat, a chicken, a cat, it's behavior changes. Either becomes highly aggressive, fight, or incredibly timid, flight. Well, we didn't just give that goat or that dog a disorder. It's not sentient in the same way a human being is. So doctors, we knew we've known for a long, long time that when we traumatize something, we've changed the biology. We just didn't know how until doctor Lipac first published on this in two thousand, I think, two thousand eight. Barack Obama endorsed this as far back as two thousand ten. So it's it's been out there. It's just always associated with the extreme. You know? So when pop when doctor Lipa published on this in two thousand eight, Frank Ochberg found him. Now they're close friends. So, obviously, we've all can relate to an animal that we know has been traumatized. We didn't give it a disorder. We know we've changed this biology. Doctor Lipov figured out how and then how to reset anybody to the pre trauma state. Lorilee Binstock  00:52:04  Wow. Well, I've this is this is extremely fascinating because, you know, I I am a huge fan. I don't know if you've listened to any of my podcasts prior, but I'm a huge advocate for psychedelic assisted therapy. But I I'm would you say that doing something like the DSR And then, I mean, do you if for it to go haywire again, you would just have to experience traffic and or or you're completely reset. Jamie Mustard  00:52:33  No. If you go traumatize yourself again, you're one hundred percent going to have to do this. You know? So a couple things I would, you know, say is one thing is, you know, what one of the things that got me started on this journey. Is that is a conversation that I had with Daniel Amon? Do you know who he is? Lorilee Binstock  00:52:53  Yes. I do. Yes. Very fascinating stuff. Jamie Mustard  00:52:54  Okay. Yeah. The ring that came to meet Daniel Amon is that forensic psychiatrist, doctor j Faber, who got me really started on this journey. I mean, I would not If I don't meet Kaye Faber, who runs the Encino Amon Clinic, who's probably the most bona fide forensic psychiatrist in the United States, maybe the world in terms of education, degrees, and board certifications. He was a fan of the book, The Economist. He contacted me on the website and said, can you come to LA and speak to inner city kids, and I'll pay you through my my foundation? And I said, well, hey, man. I'll I'll come to LA, and I'll talk to kids. But I don't think I could take money for going to my hometown and talking to kids. But but I'll come out and do it, but I I just wanna take your money. And but public speaking is a way that I make money, but just I wouldn't do it that way. Yeah. I wouldn't do I I told my agent that I couldn't charge for that. You know? And Lorilee Binstock  00:53:47  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  00:53:47  but this guy, he reads he and I become friends. So he's the one that vetted the at the time it was SGB, now it's DCR DSR for me. And, basically, I asked him about this because I was really wanting to feel better because I was successful And now I didn't have a reason for discomfort because I thought, well, if I just achieved my goals, I'll I'll feel good. And then I had all my goals achieved, and I was feeling worse than ever, and that was causing me to be very concerned. And what you know, and the precursor to that is you know, growing up in poverty, people you know, I was semi literate into my late teens. And I went from because through the a relative gave me an opportunity, to not be in poverty and to just focus on my studies for the first time in my life and to have eyeglasses and medical care when I was nineteen. And I went from doing remedial classes at a community college to graduating from the London School of Economics in just over five years. Lorilee Binstock  00:54:46  No. Jamie Mustard  00:54:47  And people say, how did you do that? Why did you do that? And the thing was I was desperate. I had lived in poverty and ignorance. And in my mind, I thought if I have affluence, which an education, that means I won't have pain. So if if if if if poverty and ignorance meant pain, affluence and education would mean no pain. So it drove me to this extraordinary overcoming of my life. And I remember arriving to the one in school of economics at twenty one or twenty years old, you know, twenty one years old Man. And thinking, finally, I would be I was away from pain, and I was around, you know, the some of the most smartest people in the world And when I got there, they had they were just as messed up and maybe had more problems than the people in the neighborhoods where I grew up. And so my whole premise fell apart, Laura Lee, because I thought, well, at least we had a reason to have these problems. We're dealing with, you know, reality every day in terms of aspects of survival. These guys are just have out everything that you can imagine, but they have the same anomalies and problems. And and so I was kind of disheartened and deflated because it didn't solve my problems. I didn't understand why everyone experiences this these aspects of existence until I went through this procedure twenty years later, twenty five years later. Okay? But So, you know, one thing that kind of got me on on this project also was three and a half years ago, doctor Lipbob teamed up with a private equity firm Sterling Partners and and Chicago. They are a multimillion dollar private equity firm to open up clinics all over the United States, which is called the Stella Center. And one thing I would say is the only place that has doctor Lipob's, what I would call, the Stella protocols. Doctor Lipob is the chief medical officer there. Is the Stella center. There's thirty five of them in the United States. If you don't go to a Stella center, you're not getting this. Okay? But without them, I would have never chosen to do a book because why promote a book to the world if it's not available to everyone? Right? But back to this conversation. Lorilee Binstock  00:57:03  That's what I was gonna ask. Jamie Mustard  00:57:05  Yeah. But let me tell you about this conversation with Daniel Amon, and then I'll shut up and open and let your your questions. So so doctor one day, doctor Faber said to me, we and I become friends. He'd written a book called Escape, rehabilitate your brain and stay on the legal system that kind of really where he where they were able to rehabilitate people's brains that had been through addicts, and I was really impressed by the data science in that book. And so one day, he starts insisting that Daniel, Eamon and I have to have a phone call. Right? So So he he forces Daniel Amon and I onto a Zoom call. I was excited about it because I get to meet, you know, the great Daniel Amon. I think Daniel Lima did not wanna be there. Lorilee Binstock  00:57:47  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  00:57:48  He was like, what am I doing on a call with this guy? And so what I did for the first four it was about an hour and a half call. What I did the first forty five minutes of that call was just asked Daniel questions. Why this? Why that? You know, just was curious. And I think after about forty five minutes later, And, you know, he said, how can I help you? Jamie, what do you want for me? And I said, listen. You're the one that's been leading the charge for the last thirty years saying, that mental issues or brain health issues, that they're biological. He knew nothing about the this aspect of the sympathetic nervous system, the SDB. I wouldn't say nothing, but it was not something he'd been investigating. He was mostly dealing with brain toxicity and TBI. Lorilee Binstock  00:58:30  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:58:31  And I said, listen. You're the one that's been leading this charge. So if I'm right and this is an a major part of the mechanism, a, then you just you need to be a part of it. You know, you're the one that you're the first person through the gate taking all the hits. Saying this stuff is biological. This is a major part of the equation. You I think that it makes total sense that you're a part of this. And so he this is forty five minutes in. I can kinda see him relax, and he says, hold on. And he starts googling right in front of me thoroughly. And I I we're I'm staring at him through the Zoom, and his kinda mouth comes, falls open, and he goes, and I said, what? And he said, hey. There is a very credible study here that says that this is seventy percent effective in the permanent relief of most ex post traumatic stress symptoms. And I said, whoa. Whoa. Whoa, Daniel? And then and he said, And I said, well, Daniel, that's an old study with the it's gotta be a ten year old paper with the recent modifications of the dual injection in the right and left side. It's at eighty five to ninety percent. Lorilee Binstock  00:59:34  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  00:59:42  And Daniel Lehman looks at me through the Zoom and says, Jamie, you don't understand. At seventy percent, this is no surprise winning work. I'll help you. Lorilee Binstock  00:59:56  Wow. Jamie Mustard  00:59:57  Yeah. And then he's been a massive partner for me. You know, I sent my first awarded people that I sent to Chicago because they were doing it wrong at Womac, was I a private jet company donated a plane to send thirteen of my special forces operators, to Fort Bragg, or no, to to Chicago. I scan their brains and name in clinic in Chicago, do this procedure on them over two days, scan their brains again less than forty eight hours later, and Amy. So Amy's been a massive supporter partner for me. I could not have done this book without him. Lorilee Binstock  01:00:29  Wow. Amazing. Amazing. So Is this procedure covered by insurance by any chance? Jamie Mustard  01:00:37  It isn't, but it's actually a not a very expensive procedure compared to the cost of talk therapy, the cost of all the other things that you could be doing out there. Compared to hyperbaric. You can there's a it's typically I think it's probably in the two to three thousand dollar range. But you don't have but it but then but the amount of gain or I don't know if I wanna use that word, but the amount of Lorilee Binstock  01:01:00  Benefit. Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  01:01:01  benefit, change, relief, comfort is kind of hard to It's it's it's too unbelievable. You know, it's it's it's it's I mean, it's it's it's like it's you just I was nervous to do it, Lolly, because I'm an artist, and I thought if my angst goes away, will I be able to create? Lorilee Binstock  01:01:23  Oh, yes. That's a very yeah. That's a very legitimate concern as an artist. Jamie Mustard  01:01:27  Yeah. But the yeah. But the thing is, like you know, think about it like but here's what actually happened. That was my concern. But here's what happened. If you're stuck in fight or flight and you think there's a tiger every second of the day, you're not gonna be able to experience emotion. You're not gonna cry during a movie, or have lovely moments with people. If you feel like a tiger is about to eat you all the time, you're concerned with a tiger. These mere nerves in your neck are lying to your brain. So when that when that went away and I was no longer in fire flight, I was ex my joy My ability to experience emotion was just freed, and it made me a far better artist. Lorilee Binstock  01:02:05  Wow. Well, I you know, I'm just I am bothered by the fact that there's so many effective treatments I feel like that are out there. And this being a Jamie Mustard  01:02:06  Yep. Lorilee Binstock  01:02:15  a huge one that insurance doesn't cover, but they'll they cover talk therapy for twenty, thirty years. Makes you wonder. But, yes, this is is this something that anyone's, like, lobbying for for for insurance to say, hey. This is mental health is a huge problem, you know, in our country and worldwide. You know, this is something that that should be covered for for the majority of people who probably need it the most are probably the ones that who wouldn't be able to spend you know, two thousand, three thousand dollars on it. You know, this this is this is this is my concern with psychedelic work or I mean, I'm ketamine is not my my one of the things that I advocate for, but, I mean, you know, the other stuff is illegal. But once it does become legal, you know, the insurance is is probably not going to cover it, especially immediately, and they're not even covering ketamine, which is legal. So is this something that, you know, somebody is is mhmm. Jamie Mustard  01:03:14  Oh, okay. It's a great question. It's a great question. And I will say that I'm a massive fan of ketamine. Okay? And the reason I'm a fan of ketamine is because of how it works. What you know, I'm not a fan of the disassociate associative state. I don't think that's how it works. A lot of people would disagree with me. Ketamine, the way that doctor Lip Bob, if you were here, would describe it, is like fertilizer for nerve growth in the brain. Lorilee Binstock  01:03:41  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  01:03:41  So a lot of people that have that are having mental issues You know, when I was on that call with Daniel, I kept using the term mental illness or something. He looked at me really sour one time, and he said, please. Don't use that term. Please stop. And I said, why? What's wrong with it? He goes, well, it's not true. It's not no one has that. I said, well, it's stigmatizing, and it's inhumane, and it's not true. And I said, well, we what what do you use? And he said brain health issues. Let's just call it brain health issues. Lorilee Binstock  01:04:15  That's legit. Yeah. Jamie Mustard  01:04:16  Yeah. So so, you know, Nathaniel's been scanning brains since nineteen eighty nine. His whole thing was when he started and he was a considered, you know, an out outsider for a long time and had a opposed, you know, even a quack. As the brain science has come in the last ten years, he's been hailed as a genius and hero. Okay? And but, basically, his view was, you know, if your arm hurts and I'm gonna get to the insurance, thing. I just wanna give this kind of entry to it. If your arm hurts or your leg hurts, you x-ray it. Somebody acts crazy, and you know one's looking at people's brains when they act crazy, he thought that made no sense. And that's why in nineteen eighty nine, over thirty years ago, he started scanning brains. In the last thirty years, it's made him the most famous psychiatrist in America that probably drugs people the least. His thing on drugs on on on psychotropics is when you use a psychotropic, which can be effective to give somebody relief, you're creating a problem to solve a problem. The psychotropic changes your brain so that you need it. So now you have two problems. That he thinks you know, so But so he's got a massive dataset of what of what of two almost two hundred thousand brain scans. So one of the things that we know is we know that alcohol ravages the brain in terms of blood flow and other toxicities. With Lorilee Binstock  01:05:38  Right. Jamie Mustard  01:05:40  THC is even worse. So we freed up marijuana. It's legal in the state of Oregon where I live, but it actually ravages the brain and creates all sorts of mental problems in terms of this the anxiety, and and then you need it just to feel normal, and you're destroying your brain. Okay? So all I'm interested in is the data science. But back to this insurance question, right now, this NYU study is being done. The army's been studying for years. So there's lots of incredible studies. There's one sixty minutes. There was a sixty minutes episode five, ten years ago that talked about the army study. But the right now, the the the there's a a study being done in FMRI or an FMRI study being done in NYU that makes this unequivocally undeniable. So I don't think we're far away from the insurance companies approving this. Also, the the doctor is connected to a nonprofit charity. Called Race PTSD now, and they're paying for treatment for a phenomenal amount of people. So you can apply to to that. But what I would say is, you know, get the invisible machine book, understand that a huge part of the book is explaining how this relates to all the other incredible therapeutics out there. I believe psilocybin works. We don't have a lot of data on the long term effects of it. But with with the DSR, there's no down there I don't wanna say there's no real downside. You get all of the gain. You get it instantly. And you don't have to worry about you know, I've had people tell me they do psilocybin and they have a really bad experience on what psychological or same thing with ketamine, which I'm a fan of. So this is all the upside with none of the downside, and you yeah, I had a doctor one time, a military doctor that was telling me that, you know, that there you know, this wasn't the only treatment, and I was overselling it and blah blah blah blah blah blah. And at Fort Bragg, and I and I said to her, okay. Let me ask you a question. Say somebody was in real trouble, and they weren't feeling well. And they can and then you have every modality at what your disposal to give them. What should they do first? And she said, well, they should do the DSR first because then we that they would get so far in so little time with no downside, that it would it makes everything else more effective. So what we're finding is that people that reset the It's the difference between physical therapy and a broken leg, Laura Lee. You physical therapy is gonna be far more effective if you reset the leg. You wouldn't do physical therapy over a broken mic. So you're gonna find that if you do psilocybin, where you do hyperbaric, where you do talk therapy, These things go exponentially faster and better and have more far more efficacy if you do a d s DSR first. The my most there's a again, all of this is parsed apart in the book, the Invisalign. The Temple of that book is a guy named Trevor Beenan, who is a guy that I was afraid of for about a year, who's now one of my best friends, and I was afraid of him. I was afraid of him because I interviewed him at Fort Bragg. He is a guy that was molested by a stepfather for eight years from eight to sixteen. The guy went to jail. He shot up medical heroin in Afghanistan. He killed people. He's seen people killed. And for thirty years, he was homicidal towards a stepfather in suicidal. The only thing keeping him alive was his wife and his children. This guy just hit just wanted to die. And so when I met him, I interviewed him for three hours of Fort Bragg, was the hardest interview I ever did. He started calling me wanting to talk, and I did not want that. I didn't want he wanted to send me stuff. I didn't want him having my address. I was terrified of this guy when I got back to Portland after that trip before Greg. The you the military does not want special forces doesn't want crazy special operators out there. So there's they get more resources than regular army. They they had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know, trying to giving Trevor, everything you could possibly reimagine, e m d r, every therapy, the the greenberry foundation, the military would pay for him to get better. Nothing worked. He was suicidal and homicidal towards his stepfather. After that interview, it took me six months to get her to Chicago, That was eighteen months ago, Trevor's just gone back to being a person. And Lorilee Binstock  01:10:15  No. Wow. Jamie Mustard  01:10:17  and the and, you know, and and what's and and, you know, you you would never know there's anything wrong with him. He looks like a guy that would be playing he he looks like an actor that would play a special forces hero in a movie. He's just a good looking white guy. You know? But he was beating him the Latin kings at eleven Lorilee Binstock  01:10:33  Yeah. Jamie Mustard  01:10:35  and grew up in poverty outside of Chicago, but you would never know it from looking at him. And so that so three months ago, he's doing ten in Portland, He came to addition for Ted in Portland a few months ago, and this guy that I didn't wanna even know before he did the DSR stayed in my house. Lorilee Binstock  01:10:55  Well, wow. Jamie Mustard  01:10:55  Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So so the so that's how I I the the way I explained in terms of other therapies is set the leg, and then all these other amazing modalities out there will be so much more effective. Lorilee Binstock  01:11:10  You really have me. I'm like, after this conversation, I'm going to be googling where this is this treatment is available because I am extremely intrigued because Yes. I've done, you know, the psilocybin, the MDMA, and it has worked wonders for me. I was able to get off of all my SSM our eyes. And but there, you know, there are moments when I I I feel like my nervous system just gets goes haywire, you know, after like, four or five months after I've done it. So I'm wondering, like, am I I should I try this DSR treatment? And then continue along my IFS therapy and, you know, whatever else that that, you know, I'm doing now. And, yeah, I'm I'm extremely intrigued. Where can we find more information about where this is available? Jamie Mustard  01:12:02  Okay. Well well, can can I comment on what you just said about yourself? And then I'll tell you. Lorilee Binstock  01:12:05  Yes. Please. Jamie Mustard  01:12:08  Listen. You're any other thing that you're doing, you're mitigating against it. These things work. Like, yoga works. We're also not meant to live in artificial cities and virtual environments. So this system is a very useful system if they were in a tiger infested jungle, being stuck in fight or fight is actually very good. We actually it makes sense. That trauma is not a disorder. It makes sense that it's a physical injury because we would all have to have an identical response to fire flight or to trauma with fire flight if we're gonna survive as a species. It doesn't make any sense that it would be a disorder. Okay? We you were of a survival species. We have to have a homogeneous uniform response Lorilee Binstock  01:12:41  Mhmm. Jamie Mustard  01:12:48  to survival or we don't survive. K? But, you know, what you're doing when you do yoga, psilocybin I've seen wonders with psilocybin. And hyperbaric wonders, but a lot of that is your minute it's mitigation. Like, you have to do yoga. You have to run every day. Nature is incredible. You know, we're we're you know, I find, you know, nature helps mitigate against this, but we don't live in most of us don't live in natural environments anymore, so we don't have that mitigator. Lorilee Binstock  01:13:14  Right. Jamie Mustard  01:13:15  Right? So you can kind of reduce it and bring it down through holistic health. But the only way to reset it is to reset it. Okay? Again, the the Stella center. Go to I I think it's is it stellar center dot com? Lorilee Binstock  01:13:33  I might be able to find it. Jamie Mustard  01:13:34  Yeah. Let me Lorilee Binstock  01:13:35  Sela center dot com. Yep. You're right. Jamie Mustard  01:13:37  yeah. Yeah. Or go to talk yeah. I would also highly recommend Lorilee Binstock  01:13:38  Excellent. Jamie Mustard  01:13:42  if you're not getting this from Stella Center, I don't work for them. They don't pay me. K. I'm not a I just note the only place that has the modern protocols, which I'll call the stellar protocols, is the stellar center. I if you're not getting this, if you're not going to sell a center, you're not getting this. That's why I had to send my first cohort of people two years ago from Fort Bragg from Woamath, the most advanced medical hospital a military hospital in the world, I had to send my guys to Chicago. So first of all, Larlie, where do you live? Lorilee Binstock  01:14:16  I live in Washington, DC. Jamie Mustard  01:14:18  Okay. Well, they're Lorilee Binstock  01:14:20  There's one in New York, I see. Jamie Mustard  01:14:20  I would highly recommend Yeah. I do go to New York. No. Like like, you you're like, first of all, let's talk offline, but I I would I want you to go to Chicago and get it from doctor Lipoff. Lorilee Binstock  01:14:27  Yes. Jamie Mustard  01:14:32  Unequivocally. Okay? And if you do that, I'll get you a discount. Okay? Lorilee Binstock  01:14:36  Well, yes. Well, let's let let's chat after this conversation. She said, yes. That's a very Jamie Mustard  01:14:39  Okay. Okay. If you decide, there's pressure. Lorilee Binstock  01:14:42  no. I I'm very intrigued. I I'm trust me. I I mean, from where I was five years ago is just exponentially better. I don't recognize who I was, but I do have these moments where You know? I'm I just tore my ACL. I've just I'm recovering from ACL surgery, and I was single parenting for, like, a week, and my children just the sound of my children's voices up stairs screaming would, like, send me into, like, this, like, what is happening? I'm just freaking out over no reason. It's really because and I'm and I imagine myself and I think about Peter Levine's book where I was, like, maybe I'm I feel like a wounded animal with the just this this slight sound of, like, danger or any issues sends my nervous system, like, off the charts. And this was over the last week. Jamie Mustard  01:15:29  Yeah. One hundred percent one of the things I hear over and over, and this is true for me, is, you know, that moment where you just react, that's a physiological response. That is an overactive sympathetic nervous system. That's what went away when I got this. So you get that extra five seconds. You get that extra ten seconds where you're not having a physiological

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