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Liminal Phrames is a podcast dedicated to the exploration of the meaning-making models we form around UFOs, contact with non-human intelligence, and paranormal experience. Not only do experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and general High Strangeness challenge conventional notions of reality, but they force us to venture into new territory altogether, pioneering a new framing of the real with blurred lines and indistinct categories. Hard answers may be hard to come by here, but on Liminal Phrames, ExoAcademian and Nathan are fully invested in asking these most intriguing of questions.

Liminal Phrames


    • May 25, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • monthly NEW EPISODES
    • 1h 31m AVG DURATION
    • 71 EPISODES


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    Latest episodes from Liminal Phrames

    071 - Consciousness Looping Through Time

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2025 89:25


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the roles that time travel and conscious AI play in what we colloquially refer to as the UFO Phenomenon, not to mention in our understanding, and sometimes lack thereof, of reality itself.

    070 - Nearing a Disclosure Turning Point

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2025 88:47


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into a bonanza of recent revelations, including the deathbed confessions of presidential advisor Harald Malmgren, the consequential claims of two new whistleblowers, and a congressional briefing on "Understanding UAP".

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    069 - With Eyes to the Skies

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2025 91:29


    In this episode of Liminal Phames, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into recent developments in ufology, including Skywatcher's data capture and analysis, the revelation of recent tic tac sightings, and a new long-form interview with the firebrand that is Steven Greer.

    068 - Taking the Temperature of Disclosure

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2025 86:59


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan take the temperature of ufology and the disclosure process. Is the new political climate more transparent? How significant is Grusch's advising of Congressman Burlison directly? Does psionics make disclosure ours for the taking?

    067 - A Revelation of Conscious Simulations

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2025 89:04


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan dive into matters including: recovered NHI described as 'biological robots'; 'conscious' UAP craft; key figures contacted by 'AI from the future'; time loops; the simulation-like nature of our reality and 'digital physics'.

    066 - UAP & Metaphysical Meanderings

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2025 89:26


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the degree to which the so-called "woo" aspects of the UFO Phenomenon have landed in prime time, forcing a reckoning by public and private parties alike.

    065 - Extraordinary Evidence & Inflection Points

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2025 88:13


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the recent influx of whistleblowers, including first-hand witnesses, who are pushing us ever closer to an inflection point that sees ufology enter the mainstream.

    064 - The Colliding & Collapsing of Worldviews

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2024 89:33


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the recent incursions, asking: is this NHI? And, if so, how might assimilation unfold if the intensity grows? And how might labels like "angels" and "aliens" collapse upon the encountering of a more expansive and integrated view of reality?

    063 - Reaching Beyond the Construct

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 1, 2024 92:12


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the evidence pointing to the notion that our environment is a simulation or a construct arising from within some deeper structure of reality.

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    062 - Telepathy & Mind at Large

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2024 88:17


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan address the upcoming UAP hearings, and then delve into one of the most consequential documentary series of recent memory; one with a unique capacity to awaken people to the primacy of Consciousness: The Telepathy Tapes.

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    061 - War, Peace & the Possibility Space

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2024 94:23


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan begin by discussing recent momentum in the push for public disclosure of the UFO Phenomenon, before then delving into DeLonge and Levenda's recently published 3rd volume of the Sekret Machines: Gods, Man & War trilogy.

    060 - Imminence & Transcendence

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2024 91:58


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into Lue Elizondo's book Imminent, considering its impact on expanding the cultural conversation around UAP and NHI. Also addressed is the threat vs. no-threat debate that has arisen since the book's publication.

    059 - Phenomenology & Demonology

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2024 89:44


    The idea that NHI are demonic entities is seemingly ever-present in both ufological circles and even within the government. In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore: How did we get here? How did the modern notion of demons arise to begin with?

    058 - Deconstructing into Conscious Expansion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2024 91:59


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore a series of increasingly consequential, paradigm-stretching elements of the UFO Phenomenon; elements that, while discombobulating, also collectively present the opportunity for a remarkable, civilization-wide expansion of consciousness.

    057 - Getting to the Crux of the Matter

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2024 92:28


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore how the UFO Phenomenon serves as a kind of gateway drug into an exploration of Consciousness and the ultimate nature and purpose of manifest reality.

    056 - Meaning, Time & Synchronicity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2024 90:22


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the rolling out of controlled disclosure, and then dive headfirst into the nature and meaning of synchronicity, including having Darren unpack his recent experience with a mind-bending synchronicity storm.

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    055 - Navigating an Evolving Realityscape

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2024 89:56


    In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan parse out the many recent developments pertaining to UAP disclosure, while also discussing how existing worldviews determine not only how certain claims are regarded, but even the questions people are willing to entertain.

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    054 - The Rabbit-holing of Reality

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2024 92:12


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan explore a spectrum of disruptive truths that undergird the modern (and ancient) UFO Phenomenon. What are these increasingly difficult to metabolize revelations, and what do they suggest about the ultimate nature of reality itself?

    053 - Embracing the Complex Unknown

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2024 91:20


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss recent events on Capital Hill pertaining to disclosure, and then delve into the rich and multifaceted (but sometimes disorienting) complexity present in what is colloquially referred to as "the Phenomenon".

    052 - Degrees of Disclosure

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2024 88:52


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan unpack controlled vs. catastrophic disclosure, and consider how various institutions, cultures, and the notion of government itself would be changed and/or challenged altogether under various degrees of disclosure.

    051 - Mass Sightings & Collective Consciousness

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2024 89:27


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan touch on recent disclosure events, and then delve into three key mass sightings from relatively recent human history: the Miracle at Fatima, the Ariel School incident, and the Phoenix Lights.

    050 - Awakening Within the Dream

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2024 96:46


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan take a deep dive into Bernardo Kastrup's Meaning in Absurdity, a book that offers a compellingly fresh take not just on the high strangeness associated with UFOs and faerie lore, but on the ultimate nature of reality itself.

    049 - Tracing the Origins of UFO Intelligence

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2024 96:01


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan outline the various hypotheses put forward to explain the UFO Phenomenon, and delve deeply into Vallée and Davis' "Incommensurability, Orthodoxy and the Physics of High Strangeness" paper.

    048 - Engaging with the Unknown

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2024 88:39


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the larger opportunities coming online, including revelations that speak not just to the reality of non-human intelligence in our midst, but to an eclipsing way of seeing who we are and how we play a participatory role in a complex, always unfolding and intrinsically conscious reality.

    047 - The Potential for Transformation

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2024 93:28


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan catch up on recent governmental engagement with the UFO Phenomenon, while asking larger questions about the overarching potential this moment of deconstruction represents.

    046 - Of Conventions & Constructs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2024 96:02


    In this episode, Darren and Nathan take a deep dive into how revelations arising from related fields such as ufology and parapsychology point to an emerging shift in our fundamental understanding of reality, and to our place within it.

    045 - Grappling with a Reality Re-Write

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2023 89:06


    In this episode Darren and Nathan discuss recent events in the push towards disclosure, and look forward to a year where the very nature of existence may be called into question based on the revelations emerging pertaining to the UFO Phenomenon.

    044 - Beyond the UFO Phenomenon

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2023 95:05


    In this episode Darren and Nathan explore congressional actions galvanizing around public disclosure of the UFO Phenomenon, while also looking to deeper moves in consciousness being expressed in grassroots movements around the world.

    043 - Modern Maps & Unframeable Territory

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2023 88:05


    In this episode Darren and Nathan unpack the latest in disclosure developments, and delve into how map-making, while useful, can often take us away from a raw relationship with reality and the elements of High Strangeness that refuse to be tamed.

    042 - The Ontology of UFO Intelligence

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2023 89:03


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan begin with recent developments in the push and pull dynamic of official UFO disclosure, followed by a deep dive into the metaphysical and ontological questions that underlie the matter of what disclosure actually entails.

    041 - Covert Investigations into the Phenomenon

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2023 92:32


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the revelations presented in the latest book about covert government investigations into the Phenomenon by James Lacatski, Colm Kelleher and George Knapp.

    040 - Perspectives on Disclosure

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2023 88:52


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan bring the audience up to date on the push for disclosure, while also considering the deeper implications of the matter, seen from a series of different vantage points.

    039 - Constructs of Consciousness

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2023 89:06


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan consider recent developments in the march towards disclosure, but within a much larger scope that considers history, human purpose, and the ultimate nature of reality.

    038 - Phenomenology & Mythos

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2023 91:08


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan explore various historical meaning models that have attempted to make sense of anomalous phenomena, while considering the possibility that some external players pursue their agendas by manipulating those very shared myths.

    037 - Community Questions & Answers

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2023 90:49


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan engage with a series of thoughtful and thought-provoking questions posed by the Liminal Phrames audience, touching on the UFO Phenomenon, synchronicity, multi-dimensional reality, and the primacy of consciousness.

    036 - The Surfacing of Tectonic Revelations

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2023 89:19


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan consider the remarkable recent governmental actions aimed at exposing the ufological secrets buried deep within the military industrial complex, and wonder aloud why the effort seems so suddenly paramount.

    035 - Disclosure Talk on Capital Hill

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2023 90:32


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan unpack the remarkable moments from over the past couple of weeks, where we've seen lawmakers - on a bipartisan basis - begin to tackle the mystery of the UFO Phenomenon and the legacy of military industrial secrets, head on.

    034 - Of Revelations & Reckonings

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2023 91:14


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan reflect on the remarkable historical moment we presently find ourselves in. What's clear is that we are entering a new era of particular gravity because it involves both paradigm-shattering revelations and personal and collective reckonings.

    033 - Ufology vs. the Gatekeepers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2023 91:41


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into the flurry of news that has erupted in the world of ufology over the last week and a half. What are we to make not only of the remarkable revelations themselves, but also of the ongoing resistance put up by the mainstream? What accounts for this wall of refusal to take these stories on, even when brought forth by the most credible of witnesses?

    032 - Disclosure's Impact on Civilization

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2023 91:49


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan delve into the differences between societal expectations around UFO disclosure and the likely messy, multifaceted, discombobulating and potentially transformative reality.

    031 - In the Days After Disclosure

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2023 91:27


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore both the initial shock and then a myriad of secondary effects that inevitably arise following an official acknowledgement and widespread acceptance of alien intelligences in our midst.

    030 - Extratempestrial Excursions

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2023 91:41


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan do a deep dive into the implications of the extratempestrial hypothesis, which posits that at least some of the apparent aliens in our midst are actually our time-traveling future descendants.

    029 - Countdown to Disclosure?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2023 92:53


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss whether recent events suggest we are seeing a purposeful, planned ramp up towards a true moment of societal reckoning with the reality of the UFO phenomenon. And, if so, just how imminent is this "D-day"?

    028 - Rite, Ritual & Experience

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2023 90:41


    In this episode, Exo/Darren and Nathan discuss the overlap between the UFO Phenomenon and religion, and consider ways rites and rituals generate frames of reference for experience in our civilization.

    027 - UFOs, Science & High Strangeness

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2023 93:17


    In this episode, Exo/Darren and Nathan dig into both the benefits and limits of applying the methods of scientific inquiry to the UFO Phenomenon, and we consider how the rise of AI has us rushing head-on towards the Singularity.

    026 - Channeled Material & the Conscious Cosmos

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2023 91:02


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan delve deep into channeled material. How valid is this form of information retrieval? How do you separate the good from the bad? And what does this method of information transfer say about the fundamental nature of reality?

    025 - Collapsing Ufological Paradigms

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2023 92:57


    In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the strengths and weaknesses of both literal and symbolic ways of making sense of the UFO Phenomenon, comparing it to similar trends in religious and academic circles, while asking some sobering but illuminating questions about the truth of human origins.

    024 - Controversial Ufological Topics

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2023 92:58


    In this episode, Exo/Darren and Nathan tackle some of the most controversial topics in ufology, including galactic federations, hybrids, breakaway civilizations, ultraterrestrials, and the specter of psychic influence in an interconnected Cosmos.

    023 - Alien Presence & Narrative Frameworks

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2023 90:07


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan explore the various factors, beyond the data itself, that fuel various hypotheses and narratives around who the aliens in our midst are, and what their intentions for humanity are.

    022 - The Primacy of Consciousness

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2023 93:35


    In this episode Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the metaphysical model known as Idealism, and consider not only how this plays well with non-duality, but also how so much of the phenomenological experience related to UFOs and non-human intelligences makes sense within this overarching perspective on the nature of reality.

    021 - The Virtuality of UFOs & Waking Experience

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2023 91:58


    In this episode, Exo/Darren and Nathan explore the UFO Phenomenon from the perspective of idealism, where not just UFOs, but the very rendering of everyday experience is a "virtual" projection from a deeper reality.

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