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«There is nothing more permanent than a temporary migrant. Don't create any illusions that a fair share of migrants in not going to stay», says sociologist Hein de Haas, in this episode of «It's Not That Simples», a podcast by the Francisco Manuel dos Santos Foundation. One of the most enlightened but also thought provocative voices of migrations, Hein de Haas explains that this hot topic of today is neither a phenomenon nor a novelty. «Migration is part and parcel of who we are as human beings, as a society», he explains, emphasizing that migratory movements have been taking place «for as long as humanity has existed». The difference lies in Europe's position in this chessboard, having shifted from being a point of departure (in colonialism or world wars) to being a continent where citizens from all over the world arrive. Highlighting that it is impossible to stop this movement, the sociologist warns against the hypocrisy of policies that punish migrants instead of those who accept them illegally. «In the United States, the number of employers who are prosecuted each year for employing undocumented migrants is between 10 and 15 a year, with no zeros», he claims. «If you would really be serious as a politician when you say 'I want to combat smuggling, I want to combat illegal migration'... If you really want to do that, you better punish employers», Hein de Haas explains, adding that the lack of consequences for those who employ them fuels exploitation and abuse. Breaking down the false narratives on this issue - from the left, which sees immigrants as «victims and refugees», and from the right, which speaks of the threat of those who «arrive to steal jobs» - the expert believes that these discourses hide the real problem: the fact that «in Western Europe and the US, there is the biggest labor shortage ever, especially of low-skilled migrants». For further info: Hein de Haas's blog Interview with «Observador» How To Academy Podcast Hein de Haas' X (formerly Twitter) Selection of videos from the official website Interview with the International Migration Institute on migration in Morocco Interview with Melissa Siegel
Voters have a lot of thoughts on the consequences of human migration and immigration policies, but often, those ideas are based on false or mistaken assumptions. On Today's Show:Hein de Haas, professor of sociology at the University of Amsterdam and founding member of the International Migration Institute at the University of Oxford and the author of How Migration Really Works: The Facts About the Most Divisive Issue in Politics (Basic Books, 2023), corrects the record about certain immigration policies.
Hein de Haas, professor of sociology at the University of Amsterdam and founding member of the International Migration Institute at the University of Oxford and the author of How Migration Really Works: The Facts About the Most Divisive Issue in Politics (Basic Books, 2023) offers corrections to our mistaken beliefs about human migration and immigration policies that backfire.
Voters have a lot of thoughts on the consequences of human migration and immigration policies, but often, those ideas are based on false or mistaken assumptions. On Today's Show:Hein de Haas, professor of sociology at the University of Amsterdam and founding member of the International Migration Institute at the University of Oxford and the author of How Migration Really Works: The Facts About the Most Divisive Issue in Politics (Basic Books, 2023), corrects the record about certain immigration policies.
Most of what you think you know about migration is probably incorrect. Listening to professor of sociology Hein de Haas, director of the International Migration Institute, makes one realize that both the media and the politicians have got the whole thing wrong: Migration would be less dramatic with more open borders. Poverty and conflict don’t drive most of migration, labor demand does. The concept of climate refugees has no scientific basis. ”People say I shouldn't say these things in public”, says Hein de Haas. ”But I think we need to be able to deal with the truth.” Here are some other no-nonsense quotes: ”The Turkey deal (between the EU and Turkey) shows we aren't too worried about what happens to refugees.” ”International migration has been remarkably stable over the decades at around three percent of the population.” ”Nine out of ten Africans that move to Europe do so legally.” ”There is a tendency at the UN and other organizations to paint a misleading picture that we are facing a migration crisis. This can actually undermine refugee protection.” ”The main cause of migration is quite simply labor demand. There is a huge level of hypocrisy around this.” ”When borders are relatively open, migrants don’t stay permanently. When borders are harder to cross, they stay.” ”Mobility should be considered a freedom in its own right. And it really doesn’t matter if you use it or not. It’s like the right to vote or run for office.” Hein’s homepage: www.heindehaas.org Hein’s book ”The Age of Migration”: http://www.age-of-migration.com
Dr Oliver Bakewell is the Co-Director and Associate Professor of the International Migration Institute, Oxford University. Over the last century, rural-urban migration has played a major part in the growth of African cities, stimulating many debates about people’s cultural values and social practices changes as they move to urban areas. More recently, there has been much concern about the role of some African cities as a transit point prior to international migration - the city as a stepping stone. Despite (or perhaps because of) having no policy, ‘integration’ is taking place and people are becoming part of new societies, contributing to the diversity and dynamism of many African cities.
In this podcast Farhan Samanani interviews MSc Migration Studies lecturer Dr Evelyn Ersanilli to find out more about her research, and the advantages of studying migration and working at the University of Oxford. The discussion includes Evelyn's research interests, some interesting aspects of her work and research, and some insights about working at Oxford. Evelyn Ersanilli is a Departmental Lecturer in Migration Studies at the Department of International Development (QEH). She holds an MSc in Interdisciplinary Social Science (Utrecht University, the Netherlands) and a PhD in Sociology (VU University Amsterdam, the Netherlands). Previously she worked as a post-doc at the Social Science Research Centre (WZB) in Berlin and the International Migration Institute in Oxford. Evelyn's research interests include the drivers of migration, citizenship policies and practice, immigrant integration and the effects of migration on migrant family life. She has a special interest in quantitative and qualitative research methodology and she is a Research Member of Common Room at Kellogg College.
Seminar from International Migration Institute.
'Refugees' Diasporic Memories and the Politics of Democratisation' (organised by the Refugee Studies Centre and the International Migration Institute as part of the Oxford Diasporas Programme in February 2011).
'Refugees' Diasporic Memories and the Politics of Democratisation' (organised by the Refugee Studies Centre and the International Migration Institute as part of the Oxford Diasporas Programme in February 2011).
'Refugees' Diasporic Memories and the Politics of Democratisation' (organised by the Refugee Studies Centre and the International Migration Institute as part of the Oxford Diasporas Programme in February 2011).
'Refugees' Diasporic Memories and the Politics of Democratisation' (organised by the Refugee Studies Centre and the International Migration Institute as part of the Oxford Diasporas Programme in February 2011).
'Refugees' Diasporic Memories and the Politics of Democratisation' (organised by the Refugee Studies Centre and the International Migration Institute as part of the Oxford Diasporas Programme in February 2011).
'Refugees' Diasporic Memories and the Politics of Democratisation' (organised by the Refugee Studies Centre and the International Migration Institute as part of the Oxford Diasporas Programme in February 2011).
'Refugees' Diasporic Memories and the Politics of Democratisation' (organised by the Refugee Studies Centre and the International Migration Institute as part of the Oxford Diasporas Programme in February 2011).
Showcase: International Migration Institute.