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In this week's interview Dan and Sam are joined by Scott Sunarto, founder and CEO of Argus Labs, to discuss the infrastructure they're building to make blockchain games more accessible. He talks about overcoming previous limitations with fully on-chain games, designing sharding architectures inspired by MMOs, building developer tools tailored for gaming, and enabling emergent economic behaviors through crypto integrations. Scott also discusses their recently launched game, Dark Frontier, and how the team aims to leverage open sourced development to spur organic game content creation. Tune in to hear about all of this and much more! - - Follow Scott:https://twitter.com/smsunarto Follow Sam: https://twitter.com/swmartin19 Follow Dan: https://twitter.com/smyyguy Follow Blockworks Research: https://twitter.com/blockworksres Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3foDS38 Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3SNhUEt Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3NlP1hA Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Join us at DAS (Digital Asset Summit) in London this March! DAS is the #1 institutional conference in crypto, hosted by Blockworks. Use the link below to learn more, and use 0X20 to get 20% off your ticket! Sign up now because the price goes up every month. See you there! Learn more + get your ticket here: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2024-london/home - - Timestamps (0:00) Introduction (1:30) Argus & Dark Frontier Launch (13:04) Navigating Web3 for Game Devs (26:55) Ping Latency & Impact on Web3 Elements (31:01) DAS London Ad (31:57) Web3 Architecture (46:32) Dev Incentivization & Rewards (50:28) Open-sourcing Dark Frontier (59:03) Why Crypto Gaming? - - Resources https://blog.argus.gg/world-engine/ - - Check out Blockworks Research today! Research, data, governance, tokenomics, and models – now, all in one place Blockworks Research: https://www.blockworksresearch.com/ Free Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on 0xResearch is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Dan, Sam, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.
My guest today is Scott Sunarto. Scott is the founder of Argus Labs, a decentralized gaming company. He was contributor to Dark Forest. On this episode, Scott joins me to discuss his Cookie Clicker Rollup, a toy L2 he built to better understand and demonstrate the architecture of optimistic rollups. We discuss optimistic and zk rollups, censorship resistance, offchain execution, sovereignty, the spectrum of EVM equivalence, and much more. If you're interested in learning more about L2 architecture from first principles, this episode is for you. My thanks to FirstMate who provided the recording studio for today's episode. If you're creating NFTs and want to run your own branded secondary market that aggregates listings across all NFT marketplaces and enforces NFT secondary royalties, check out FirstMate at firstmate.xyz. Links Guest: @smsunarto Hosted by @nnnnicholas NeverEnding Game - a16z OPStack Bedrock Starknet: What are Storage Proofs Verifying Ethereum Smart Contract State with Proof - Leo Zhang The Open Problems of Onchain Games - Charlie Noyes & Doug Feagin Brandon Gomes l2beat Vitalik's An Incomplete Guide to Rollups Vitalik's The different types of ZK-EVMs Pete Horne's 4th energy barrywhitehat Scott's research day talk "How I Learned to Stop Worrying & Love Execution Sharding" Introducing World Engine by Argus Argus's Agar.io game (private beta, ask Scott) Chapters (00:00:00) Intro (00:01:30) Interview start: Scott in Jakarta for Argus (00:03:15) A Toy L2: Cookie Clicker Rollup (00:08:00) What is an L2? (00:12:25) Sovereign rollups & fraud proofs (00:14:30) What happens when there's a fraud proof? (00:16:40) Cascading rollbacks & bridges (00:21:10) Verifying with ZK (00:25:25) Finality and Instant finality (00:27:45) Can you verify L1 rollup state roots before the fraud proof period (00:29:45) Cookie clicker rollup: architecture (00:33:00) Nicholas attempts to make Cookie clicker clicks tradable (00:35:00) Proof systems (00:36:20) Data AvaIlability (00:38:00) Validiums and data availability committees (00:41:00) L2 Calldata posted to L1 (00:47:50) Proving systems are too opaque (00:48:00) EIP-4844 and data availability (00:50:00) Cost of proving should be public (00:52:40) Cookie clicker block step by step (00:57:40) What happens in a Fraud Proof? (01:01:00) L1 trapdoor forcing rollback of soft confirmed L2 txs (01:03:00) Red Team: Hypothetical attacks on L2s (and dapps) today (01:06:40) Cookie clicker's fraud proof (01:09:30) Gas attacks on fraud proofs and Interactive verification game (01:11:20) Single shot fraud proof (01:17:55) Specialized settlement layer L1 could support gasless fraud proofing to enable Single shot fraud proofing (01:19:45) L2 Specificity: EVM Equivalence vs Prover performance spectrum (01:25:00) Argus's World Engine Game Shards (01:30:00) World Engine is like a shared sequencer — multiple execution layers share one sequencer (01:36:30) Argus is building game engine and games (01:40:40) World Engine game UX: embedded chain native AA wallets (01:43:40) Realtime interaction AA Bundler signature batching (01:46:45) L2 gaming scene: Argus, 0xParc Autonomous Worlds, and Lattice (01:49:30) Try today: Primodium, SkyStrife (01:50:35) Outro
In this episode, we chat with Scott Sunarto, the founder of Argus Labs and former co-creator of Dark Forest. We begin with an overview of the current landscape of Crypto Gaming and the crypto gaming primitives Scott is excited about. We also talk about what most crypto gaming investors are getting wrong and the narratives within crypto gaming he disagrees with. We also discuss Argus Labs and why Argus is a gaming company first, not a picks and shovels infrastructure company. We also discuss Scott's mental model for the rollup stack, where the World Engine fits in, and discuss some unspoken truths about rollups, sequencers, and rollup value capture.
Imran and Qiao bring on Mohamed and Dmitriy to dive deep into the ongoing battle for modularity supremacy between Cosmos and Ethereum. No BS crypto insight for founders.Timestamps(00:00) Intro(00:59) Welcome to Good Game(01:23) Dmitriy's background(02:57) The modular thesis(08:23) What does consensus mean in Ethereum(11:15) Data Availability: What does it mean for founders?(20:40) The current landscape for rollups(24:30) What is L3 and why would a developer do an L3 instead of L2 appchain?(30:15) Defining "Atomic Composability" in the context of rollups(32:55) Shared Sequencers: What problems is it trying to solve and how does it solve them?(40:33) Is atomic composability possible using shared sequencers?(45:56) The future of cross-rollup bridges(52:45) Who is running the decentralized sequencers within Astria and Espresso and how does it work?(56:12) Dmitriy's POV on Cosmos(1:01:22) What pushed DyDx to do their own Cosmos chain(1:07:23) Zaki's tweet about Cosmos' social capital(1:08:33) Is Cosmos the inventor of modular architecture?(1:10:28) Interchain vs Mesh security(1:13:13) What is the Cosmos Hub's role in the Cosmos ecosystem?(1:14:05) Qiao: It's too early to say that Cosmos is out of the question in terms of gaming(1:16:16) The World Engine by Argus Labs(1:17:49) Cosmos: Bullish, bearish, or neutral?(1:19:45) Qiao's counterargument to the bearishness toward Cosmos(1:23:01) The differences between Ethereum and Cosmos(1:26:18) Can Cosmos and Ethereum coexist?The World Engine by Agus Labs: https://twitter.com/ArgusLabs_/status/1663261248119767040Mohamed Twitter: https://twitter.com/MohamedFFoudaDmitriy Twitter: https://twitter.com/dberenzonSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3N675w3Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3snLsxUWebsite: https://goodgamepod.xyzTwitter: https://twitter.com/goodgamepodxyzDISCLAIMER: The views expressed herein are personal to the speaker(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of any other person or entity. Discussions and answers to questions are intended as generalized, non-personalized information. Nothing herein should be construed or relied upon as investment, legal, tax, or other advice.
This is the legend of the World Engine and The World Below. BATTLE OF THE GODS: https://karinmalady.itch.io/battle-of-the-gods NULL AND VOID: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/null-and-void-season-one#/ COLE BURKHARDT: https://coleburkhardt.carrd.co/ FOLLOW COLE ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/kingcoleminer FOLLOW TAYLOR ON TWITTER: https://twitter.com/LeviathanFiles ALL MY FANTASY CHILDREN: http://www.allmyfantasychildren.com/ PARTY OF ONE DISCORD: https://discordapp.com/invite/SxpQKmK PARTY OF MERCH: http://bit.ly/partyofonemerch SUPPORT JEFF STORMER ON PATREON: www.patreon.com/jeffstormer THEME SONG: Mega Ran feat. D&D Sluggers, “Infinite Lives,” RandomBeats LLC, www.megaran.com CALL YOUR REPS: http://5calls.org/ DONATE: https://donate.splcenter.org/ DONATE: www.plannedparenthood.org
We are now slaved to the World Engine.
Pastor Olu challenges us to walk circumspectly in this world ,in other words before we make any decision we should consider all sides of the decision and ask ourselves does it reflect our role as world engines.
In this episode, the puny flesh beings known as the Grim Dorks discuss the battle of the World Engine as well as some choice members of the various Necron Dynasties.
With the World Engine destroyed, it is now up to Lane, Hardy, and Hamilton to prepare the Phantom Drive bomb, but something goes awry. Guest Commentator: Rebecca Johnson A Too Old Media podcast
With the World Engine destroyed, it is now up to Lane, Hardy, and Hamilton to prepare the Phantom Drive bomb, but something goes awry. Guest Commentator: Rebecca Johnson
Superman endures the power of the World Engine, perseveres, and destroys it. The people of Metropolis are saved. Guardian is cleared for its attack run on the Black Zero. Guest Commentator: Rory Spence A Too Old Media podcast
Superman endures the power of the World Engine, perseveres, and destroys it. The people of Metropolis are saved. Guardian is cleared for its attack run on the Black Zero. Guest Commentator: Rory Spence
General Zod takes off with the Scout Ship. Superman has a hard time battling the World Engine. The fate of The Three is revealed. Guest Commentator: Rory Spence A Too Old Media podcast
General Zod takes off with the Scout Ship. Superman has a hard time battling the World Engine. The fate of The Three is revealed. Guest Commentator: Rory Spence
General Zod assumes command of the Fortress of Solitude. Superman is not prepared for the World Engine's defense mechanisms. Guest Commentator: Ralph Attanasia A Too Old Media podcast
General Zod assumes command of the Fortress of Solitude. Superman is not prepared for the World Engine’s defense mechanisms. Guest Commentator: Ralph Attanasia
The Black Zero enslaves itself to the World Engine and initiates its attack on the planet. Guest Commentator: Tim Yoko
The Black Zero enslaves itself to the World Engine and initiates its attack on the planet. Guest Commentator: Tim Yoko A Too Old Media podcast
The World Engine crash lands in the Indian Ocean, and the Black Zero appears above Metropolis. Guest Commentator: Tim Yoko
The World Engine crash lands in the Indian Ocean, and the Black Zero appears above Metropolis. Guest Commentator: Tim Yoko A Too Old Media podcast
General Zod release the Word Engine unto the planet Earth. Guest Commentator: Tim Yoko A Too Old Media podcast
General Zod release the Word Engine unto the planet Earth. Guest Commentator: Tim Yoko
The World Engine shows off its destructive power, and Kal-El drowns in skulls. Guest Commentator: Travis Bow and Patrick Redmond A Too Old Media podcast
The World Engine shows off its destructive power, and Kal-El drowns in skulls. Guest Commentator: Travis Bow and Patrick Redmond
In this episode, we breakdown Jor-El's plan to stop the Kryptonians; we take a look at the characters, cast, and creators for Suicide Squad; and consider what lessons we can learn from CW's Flash vs. Arrow crossover. We address all the questions below! Why does Jor-El's plan make sense? Why doesn't How It Should Have Ended ending work? Why was Dr. Hamilton on the C-17? Why was it logical for Lois to be on the C-17? What was the Phantom Drive doing for the World Engine? Why did the strikes have to be coordinated? Why couldn't Superman tackle the Black Zero first? Why couldn't the World Engine be sucked into a singularity? What is the Suicide Squad? Why support Warner Brothers Animation direct to video DC projects? How do press releases tell us Superman is going to get more screen time than Batman? What can the characters, cast, and creators tell us about the DCCU? Why not shoot entirely in IMAX? What lessons can we learn from Flash vs. Arrow? In this episode's mail bag: Does killing Clark Kent solve the secret identity issue? Why didn't Jor-El jump the Black Zero into a star or blow Zod out the airlock? Will Zod return in BvS? Will the DCCU movies be in chronological order? Will they explain the changes to Superman's suit? How It Should Have Ended: Man Of SteelOfficial Suicide Squad Press Release Web: ManOfSteelAnswers.com Twitter: @mosanswers Subscribe: iTunes / RSS / Stitcher / YouTube Proud member of the Superman Podcast Network! Software Generated Transcript
In this episode, we cover: What impact the World Engine scrap might have? We talked about the open pod and its possible ties to Wonder Woman. We discussed two ways Superman might tackle Kryptonian technology and how giving humanity access might cause him to come into conflict with Batman. What Batman's logical attitude towards Superman could be? How Batman could have an illogical attitude towards Superman could be justified. How Man of Steel lays the groundwork for an optimistic Superman. And my preferences on the approach to the Superman Batman conflict and partnership. While covering our topics, we touch on the following questions: What's the deal with the open pod and who was the survivor? Can Superman breath in space? Where should the Fortress of Solitude be? Why would Superman support the proliferation of Kryptonian technology? ...and more! Liquid Geo featurette Web: ManOfSteelAnswers.com Twitter: @mosanswers Subscribe: iTunes / RSS / YouTube Proud member of the Superman Podcast Network! Software Generated Transcript