Podcasts about Dark Forest

On this episode of Crazy Wisdom, I, Stewart Alsop, spoke with Neil Davies, creator of the Extelligencer project, about survival strategies in what he calls the “Dark Forest” of modern civilization — a world shaped by cryptographic trust, intelligence-immune system fusion, and the crumbling authority of legacy institutions. We explored how concepts like zero-knowledge proofs could defend against deepening informational warfare, the shift toward tribal "patchwork" societies, and the challenge of building a post-institutional framework for truth-seeking. Listeners can find Neil on Twitter as @sigilante and explore more about his work in the Extelligencer substack.Check out this GPT we trained on the conversation!Timestamps00:00 Introduction of Neil Davies and the Extelligencer project, setting the stage with Dark Forest theory and operational survival concepts.05:00 Expansion on Dark Forest as a metaphor for Internet-age exposure, with examples like scam evolution, parasites, and the vulnerability of modern systems.10:00 Discussion of immune-intelligence fusion, how organisms like anthills and the Portuguese Man o' War blend cognition and defense, leading into memetic immune systems online.15:00 Introduction of cryptographic solutions, the role of signed communications, and the growing importance of cryptographic attestation against sophisticated scams.20:00 Zero-knowledge proofs explained through real-world analogies like buying alcohol, emphasizing minimal information exposure and future-proofing identity verification.25:00 Transition into post-institutional society, collapse of legacy trust structures, exploration of patchwork tribes, DAOs, and portable digital organizations.30:00 Reflection on association vs. hierarchy, the persistence of oligarchies, and the shift from aristocratic governance to manipulated mass democracy.35:00 AI risks discussed, including trapdoored LLMs, epistemic hygiene challenges, and historical examples like gold fulminate booby-traps in alchemical texts.40:00 Controlled information flows, secular religion collapse, questioning sources of authority in a fragmented information landscape.45:00 Origins and evolution of universities, from medieval student-driven models to Humboldt's research-focused institutions, and the absorption by the nation-state.50:00 Financialization of universities, decay of independent scholarship, and imagining future knowledge structures outside corrupted legacy frameworks.Key InsightsThe "Dark Forest" is not just a cosmological metaphor, but a description of modern civilization's hidden dangers. Neil Davies explains that today's world operates like a Dark Forest where exposure — making oneself legible or visible — invites predation. This framework reshapes how individuals and groups must think about security, trust, and survival, particularly in an environment thick with scams, misinformation, and parasitic actors accelerated by the Internet.Immune function and intelligence function have fused in both biological and societal contexts. Davies draws a parallel between decentralized organisms like anthills and modern human society, suggesting that intelligence and immunity are inseparable functions in highly interconnected systems. This fusion means that detecting threats, maintaining identity, and deciding what to incorporate or reject is now an active, continuous cognitive and social process.Cryptographic tools are becoming essential for basic trust and survival. With the rise of scams that mimic legitimate authority figures and institutions, Davies highlights how cryptographic attestation — and eventually more sophisticated tools like zero-knowledge proofs — will become fundamental. Without cryptographically verifiable communication, distinguishing real demands from predatory scams may soon become impossible, especially as AI-generated deception grows more convincing.Institutions are hollowing out, but will not disappear entirely. Rather than a sudden collapse, Davies envisions a future where legacy institutions like universities, corporations, and governments persist as "zombie" entities — still exerting influence but increasingly irrelevant to new forms of social organization. Meanwhile, smaller, nimble "patchwork" tribes and digital-first associations will become more central to human coordination and identity.Modern universities have drifted far from their original purpose and structure. Tracing the history from medieval student guilds to Humboldt's 19th-century research universities, Davies notes that today's universities are heavily compromised by state agendas, mass democracy, and financialization. True inquiry and intellectual aloofness — once core to the ideal of the university — now require entirely new, post-institutional structures to be viable.Artificial intelligence amplifies both opportunity and epistemic risk. Davies warns that large language models (LLMs) mainly recombine existing information rather than generate truly novel insights. Moreover, they can be trapdoored or poisoned at the data level, introducing dangerous, invisible vulnerabilities. This creates a new kind of "Dark Forest" risk: users must assume that any received information may carry unseen threats or distortions.There is no longer a reliable central authority for epistemic trust. In a fragmented world where Wikipedia is compromised, traditional media is polarized, and even scientific institutions are politicized, Davies asserts that we must return to "epistemic hygiene." This means independently verifying knowledge where possible and treating all claims — even from AI — with skepticism. The burden of truth-validation increasingly falls on individuals and their trusted, cryptographically verifiable networks.

Programa conducido por Darío Lavia y Chucho Fernández.Ilustraciones: James Arthur O'Connor, George Innes, Nikolai Astrup, John Williams Waterhouse, D. Vetter, George Mullins, John Skelton, Marion Quimb.Fotogramas: "Halloween" (1978) de John CarpenterActo I: "Tiempo de matar" de Jesús Palacios por Darío Lavia 0:02:10Bitácora 1: Tres Noches de brujas con horror telefónico 0:06:56La risa, remedio infalible por Chucho Fernández 0:09:13Bitácora 2: Estreno de "Halloween" en Argentina 0:11:15Acto II: "Su cuerpo, en sí mismo" de Carol Clover por Querelle Delage 0:12:48Reporte de un Time Traveler: Tres primeros estrenos de John Carpenter en Argentina 0:21:12La risa, remedio infalible por Chucho Fernández 0:22:34Bitácora 3: Tres meses en salas del centro de Buenos Aires 0:24:13Acto III: "Paperbacks from Hell" de Grady Hendrix por Darío Lavia 0:27:03 "Halloween" de Curtis Richards por Chucho Fernández 0:30:41 Cortinas: Music used: "CHAOS WALKING" composed and produced by "Vivek Abhishek"Music link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UOltoHoR8QMusic used: "THE SILENT HILL" composed and produced by "Vivek Abhishek"Music link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj9GvZdj5a0Music used: "The Dark Forest" composed and produced by "Vivek Abhishek"Music link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3agbTAU68jcMusic used: "THE CRAFT" composed and produced by "Vivek Abhishek"Music link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZyrVjS27swMusic used: "Ghost of the Lake" composed and produced by "Vivek Abhishek"Music link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYbff6fqgusSUBSCRIBE us on YOUTUBE: https://bit.ly/3qumnPHFollow on Facebook : https://bit.ly/33RWRtPTributo Narciso Ibáñez Mentahttps://www.instagram.com/narciso_ibanez_menta/Querelle Delagehttps://www.instagram.com/queenquerelle/Imdbhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt36689232/Web de Cineficción⁠http://www.cinefania.com/cineficcion⁠/Fan Page de Cineficción⁠https://www.facebook.com/revista.cineficcion/

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The universe should be thriving with intelligent life that we can easily detect. Over the years, many have proposed solutions to this problem, but the dark forest theory stands out as the most chilling.

What if the universe isn't just vast and indifferent but actively hostile—a cosmic battlefield where silence is survival? Welcome, friends, to an exploration of The Dark Forest, the second volume in Liu Cixin's masterful Three-Body Problem series.

As the cold settles in, we're talking about the ways that we stay present, and the pleasures that we're appreciating right now. Notebooks and paper planners are some of the tools that we're using to keep steady and help us remember interesting tidbits, and in our ongoing relationship with softer ways to keep time, we're using lights, music, and actual programs on the actual radio to give shape to our days. We wind up our winter appreciation by sharing several poems that sustain us, make us laugh, or send us further on our journeys of curiosity. Links to the many things we appreciate can be found below.Mentioned in this episode:Libby app (library ebooks, audiobooks, and magazines)The Backyard Bird Chronicles by Amy TanBurnside Chai and Dark Forest teas from Jasmine Pearl Tea CompanyBlack Canadian Maple tea from The Rare Tea CellarTiny Shop, The Refilleri, Eco the Flamingo (Zero Waste shops in Chicago)Candlelit Tales podcast (Irish Folk Storytelling)The Last Kingdom (Book series by Bernard Cornwell; TV series on Netflix)KMHD Portland's Jazz RadioCommonplace BookPazyryk Swan (Felt plush swan from Iron Age Siberia)Poems read:“Hope and Love” by Jane Hirshfield“why people be mad at me sometimes” by Lucille Clifton“Advice From My Inner Punk Rock We Should All Take” by Jared Singer“When the Waves Come” by Maia“5 things at 40” by Ana Bozicevic“little prayer” by Danez Smith

Dan has another run in with a weird boi (9:35 to skip). Is everyone in the future a big dummy or did they do a big mass mental seal day off camera? Starship Earth rocks and I can’t wait to hear about the reunion in a couple millenia. Next week we’re starting Wind and Truth by Brandon Sanderson! Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.The post The Dark Forest: Part Three first appeared on Don't call it a book club..

Old Ninja and Prodigy is out this week. It starts with just Kr0nus. This week we talk about Trump, Astrobot, Books, Libraries, Oakland Zoo Glofari, The Dark Forest, Squid Game Season 2, Harley Quinn Season 5, the TikTok ban, Meta, Inauguration performance fallout, Sakamoto Days, Binging vs Weekly releases, and more! Come follow us: http://www.beenhadproductions.com/bthanbti SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/bthanbtiI Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BthanBTI/ Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/bthanbti Twitter: @BthanBTI iTunes: https://itun.es/i6SJ6Pw YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/BlackerThanBlackTimesInfinity Rescue + Residence https://www.rescueresidence.org/ Donate: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=34F4G4ZXQL8FA

Movie watch (9:34 to skip)! Luke and Dan are not impressed. Get wallbroken, nerds. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.

ONLY AVAILABLE FOR PATRONS: Carlton joins to discuss Cixin Liu's REMEMBRANCE OF EARTH'S PAST books: THE THREE BODY PROBLEM (2006年) + THE DARK FOREST (2008年) + DEATH'S END (2010年). Moreover, Chinese Space Communism, looming political menace, the looming doom of humankind, science and art, love as a solution to math. (ISP S5.E07) For the full episode and weekly episodes of SIRENS, join us at patreon.com/imsopopular

Happy new year folks, today we’re warming up with all things pie (10:15 to skip). Apparently, this is a hot take, but we’re coming out strongly by saying that imaginary girlfriends are in fact uncommon and a problem. Also, listen to hear our preliminary plans and tell us how great we would be at the Wallfacer project. Special thanks to VOLO for the intro and outro music.The post The Dark Forest: Part One first appeared on Don't call it a book club..

This year was a great one for the Future Commerce podcast. We vision-casted with fellow futurists at exclusive events across the nation, launched podcast specials like Spooky Commerce and FC Radio Theater, and were joined on the podcast by many of our industry muses, including Kickstarter's Yancey Strickler and Walmart's Justin Breton. We've rounded up our 2024 highlight reel in one year-end finale episode. All featured episodes linked below.The Good, the Spooky, and the VisionaryFeatured Episodes:When Technology Changes, Context Changes (February 6, 2024)You Can Buy Haunted Dolls on eBay (October 11)After Dark: Luddite Luxury, Acorn-Based Economies, Starbucks Star Days as Economic Indicator (February 21, 2024)The Tyranny of Visibility (February 13, 2024)DECODED: Polymaths and Philosophers (May 13, 2024)Building Culturally Intelligent Brands (May 17)What is Futureproof for Gen Alpha? (June 7, 2024)Don't Say Metaverse (August 23)How Liquid Death is Murdering Marketing (July 7)The Dark Forest of Creative Capital (December 6)Associated Links:Check out Future Commerce on YouTubeCheck out Future Commerce+ for exclusive content and save on merch and printSubscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce worldListen to our other episodes of Future CommerceHave any questions or comments about the show? Let us know on futurecommerce.com, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn. We love hearing from our listeners!

Confronted by a powerful magical force, our heroes must keep their wits about them to find their way out of the Dark Forest and arrive one step closer to the Round Earth fortress. The Great War has ended. The terror and torment that touched the lives of nearly everyone in the land have ceased. The enemy vanquished, peace shall reign as it had for centuries prior.Amid the parades of victorious soldiers returning home after the long conflict the lord of the last major city at the edge of the land has summoned you for a meeting.As the confetti and streamers are scattered, and the celebratory wine flows, the Iron Duke has a mission for four would be heroes?Dungeon World: After the Last Battle isLeigh as Dirk SavageDavid as Gritta GrimhammerAlex as JeffCarl as Rosco Tinklechimesand Austin is your game masterMusic by Austin and Alex (not the one who plays Jeff)Dungeon World is a game by Sage Latorra and Adam Koebel

Yancey Strickler on Metalabel, Digital Scarcity, and the Coming Creative RevolutionKickstarter co-founder Yancey Strickler unveils his vision of a radical economic future where artists become society's power brokers. Through Metalabel, he's building the infrastructure for collective commerce and creative ownership that could transform how we value and exchange culture.“In 50 years, artists won't just influence culture—they'll control capital”Key takeaways:{00:13:10} - “The concept of art and creativity that we think of today that we take as givens that we're like, “Oh my God, I have to promote my drop again today,” are incredibly modern inventions.” - Yancey{00:24;51] - “I believe {this project} will produce a world where 50 or 60 years from now, artists and creative people are the most powerful members of society. They will have the greatest influence. They will have the greatest access to wealth. They will be the most powerful people in society, and this is a structure by which that will occur. And that's a project we'll announce next year.” - Yancey{00:26:20} - “We all want to be able to homestead and have our own spaces that are ours, but we also want to be part of spaces where we can be discovered. And so how can our catalogs exist in a world like that? Artists right now are excluded from capitalism. Let's change that.” - Yancey{00:28:53} - “People are still just looking in the dead channel, the dying channels…where we've been trained to look for what is new and what matters. And the answer is that that's not where those things are happening now.” - Yancey{00:38:09} - “Anyone who's 20 years old today, born and raised on the Internet, there's just like a mentality, a metamodern, just flat openness, super well-curated sort of vibe that I just think lends itself quite well to operating very specific, but I think very successful, small to medium-sized creative businesses.” - YanceyAssociated Links:Pre-order the LORE Journal by Future Commerce on MetalabelConnect with Yancey Strickler and learn more about MetalabelThe Dark Forest CollectiveKirby Ferguson's New York Times piece, Is Creativity Dead?Check out Future Commerce on YouTubeCheck out Future Commerce+ for exclusive content and save on merch and printSubscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce worldListen to our other episodes of Future CommerceHave any questions or comments about the show? Let us know on futurecommerce.com, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn. We love hearing from our listeners!

In celebration of Wicked Month, Philip, Bridget, and Lara discuss the 2015 LucasFilm animated feature, 'Strange Magic.' Featuring the voice talents of Evan Rachel Wood, Alan Cumming and Kristin Chenoweth, this fairytale combines the fantasy romance of ‘A Midsummer Night's Dream' and the musical tastes of George Lucas, who curated this jukebox musical's all-pop soundtrack. The musical selections range from the titular song by ELO and the main protagonist's eponymous "C'mon Marianne" by The Four Seasons to more recent hits from Beyoncé and Kelly Clarkson. Marianne is a fairy princess who abruptly ends her engagement to the self-obsessed knight Roland. Presumptive heir to the fairy kingdom, she must follow her destiny to protect her kingdom from the Dark Forest as well as from the scheming Roland. Follow The ThawedCast: Conversations About Animation: twitter.com/thawedcast and instagram.com/thawedcast. instagram.com/partoflarasworld, instagram.com/bridget5246, instagram.com/philipehlke. Visit thawedcast.com

Text Light Pollution News!This month, host Bill McGeeney is joined by Kevin Beare, whom you may know better as CapeMayAstro, Michael Rymer from Dark Sky makes a return visit, and the always insightful, Frank Turina of the Night Sky Resource Center joins us once again!See Full Show Notes, Lighting Tips and more at LightPollutionNews.com. Like this episode, share it with a friend!Bill's Picks:Beaker Street Science Photography Prize, Beaker Street Science Festival.Lights Out Greenwich! New Town Lighting Regulations Target Light Pollution, Greenwich Free Press.‘Clear message' from community on dark skies, Sunshine Coast Council.Service proposes to list the Bethany Beach firefly as threatened, Jalyn Williams, US Fish & Wildlife Service.Foxfire Brings Magical Light to the Dark Forest, Leigh Ann Henion, Atlas Obscura. Support the showLike what we're doing? Your support helps us reach new audiences and help promote positive impacts. Why not consider becoming a Paid Supporter of Light Pollution News?

It's time to turn out the lights and lock the door. S.T.A.R.S Agents Max Roberts and Logan Moore creep through the Spencer Mansion to explore where Resident Evil began. Do ink ribbons and static cameras still hold up or has survival horror outgrown its restricted roots? On Super Chapter Select: Max and Logan disect early God of War: Ragnarök footage and make some predictions about PlayStation's Fall of 2022.  You can download a copy of this episode's transcript here. Resident Evil Developer - Capcom Platforms - PlayStation (PC, Saturn, and Nintendo DS; Remade on GameCube) Release Date - March 22, 1996 (PS1) March 22, 2002 for GameCube February 7, 2006 for Deadly Silence (Nintendo DS) Game Director - Shinji Mikami Producers - Tokuro Fujiwara and Masayuki Akahori Composer - Makoto Tomozawa, Koichi Hiroki, and Masami Ueda Metacritic - 91% (same for GameCube) Links Resident Evil Wikipedia Resident Evil Remake Wikipedia Soundtrack YouTube - Original YouTube - Remake Ted Lasso's Dark Forest on Twenty Thousand Hertz Resident Evil Live Action Cutscenes Resident Evil by Philip J. Reed This episode was originally recorded on August 30, 2022. @ChapterSelect Max's Twitter @MaxRoberts143 Logan's Twitter @MooreMan12 Researcher, Editor, and Producer – Max Roberts Hosted by Logan Moore & Max Roberts Illustration generated by DALL-E 2, prompted by Max Roberts.

Hi everyone! I couldn't let my favorite day of the year go by without giving everyone a Halloween treat. So here's an extra bonus mini episode. It's both a dark true crime story out of Japan, as well as a story that might make you a believer in ghosts. Notes: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2058684/how-gruesome-photos-memory-stick-revealed-identity-killer-who https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-path-she-took-miyakos-last-walk-d213bf941f91 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Staying in a village while his motorcycle is repaired, a traveller learns of an horrific episode in the village's recent past as well as the locals' fear of the surrounding forest. His curiosity piqued, he decides to investigate… This original recording is an audio presentation (with sound effects and music) by Jasper L'Estrange for EnCrypted Horror. “The Child” by L.A. Lewis (1934). You can hear me discuss this story by becoming a channel member and listening to a future episode of The EnCrypted Postmortem. (Honest! Next one coming up soon!) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7JYpOrSDoCfvPbjBn6DZGIXDlK-eOzpR). CREATOR'S NOTE (CONTAINS SPOILER): This story contains subject matter that some listeners may find upsetting.

There's no scarier setting for an unsolved mystery then in the woods. They're old, they're big and they're alive with all sorts of creatures and stories. Today we're digging into 5 of the strangest ones out there. Her are 5 Dark Forest Mysteries. 

Welcome to Watch. Review. Repeat. This is the podcast where two best friends discuss the latest in film and television and then do it all over again the following episode! Colton and Andrew pursue a serial killer in writer-director Osgood Perkins' horror thriller, 'Longlegs'! 00:00:00 - Intro 00:04:10 - Colton's Fun Facts About 'Longlegs' and Other Things!  00:11:37 - 'M*A*S*H' and 'Hunger Games' Actor Donald Sutherland Dead at Age 88 00:14:48 - 'Avatar' and 'Titanic' Producer Jon Landau Dead at Age 63 00:17:58 - 'The Shining' Actress Shelley Duvall Passes Away at Age 75 00:20:17 - 'Beverly Hills, 90210' and 'Charmed' Actress Shannen Doherty Loses Cancer Battle at Age 53 00:23:06 - Sony Pictures Buys Alamo Drafthouse 00:32:55 - Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' Manslaughter Case Dismissed with Prejudice 00:45:19 - 'M3GAN 2.0' Begins Filming Ahead of 2025 Release Date, Related Project 'SOULM8TE' Dated for 2026 00:50:56 - FX's Upcoming 'Alien' Series Officially Titled 'Alien: Earth' 00:56:19 - 'Alien: Romulus' Official Trailer 01:04:04 - 'Cuckoo' Official Trailer 2 01:08:48 - 'Hellboy: The Crooked Man' Official Teaser 01:15:34 - 'Nosferatu' Official Teaser Trailer 01:24:00 - 'Longlegs' (Non-Spoilers and Recommendation) 01:49:54 - 'Longlegs' (Spoilers) 02:13:34 - Listener's Corner ('Poor Things', 'The Beekeeper', 'A Family Affair', 'Muzzle') 02:17:01 - Catching Up With Andrew (Baby Bennett and Spraining Ankle at Disney World, 'The Mole' Season 2, 'Grey's Anatomy', 'The Idea of You', 'Find Me Falling', 'The Boys' Season 4, 'The Acolyte', The Three-Body Problem and The Dark Forest by Liu Cixin) 02:37:56 - Catching Up With Colton ('A Quiet Place: Day One', 'Mona Lisa Smile', '12 Angry Men', 'Say Hey, Willie Mays!', 'The Crown' Seasons 5 and 6, 'M*A*S*H' Season 1, 'Abbott Elementary' Season 3, 'House of the Dragon' Season 2) 02:54:35 - Conclusion/Outro Visit our website! Support us on Patreon! Thank you for listening, and please send any feedback to watchreviewrepeat@gmail.com! Intro/Outro Credit: Mechanolith Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

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Yancey Strickler is the co-founder and former CEO of Kickstarter, and the founder of Metalabel, a platform for releasing collective work. He's also the author of This Could Be Our Future: A Manifesto for a More Generous World. I'm thrilled to share our recent conversation in this episode. Yancey started out as a music journalist before applying his talents to helping the world share its creative pursuits. For him, creativity and humanity are implicitly connected, and so he's been a forerunner in thinking about how to build companies that bring good things into the world and are also successful without devolving into extractive behaviors. Not that any of this is simple. As Yancey says, “Everything is harder than you think. To do anything well is so hard. [But] if you put in the work, you don't need to fear it.” We talked about the founding and growth of Kickstarter, which has been profitable since it's 14th month, the power of humility, past mistakes and future hopes, why he started Metalabel, and more including:  • The innumerable inventions that make up our world  • Crisis hopping in Kickstarter's early days • The challenges of funding speculative projects • Being one of the first Public Benefit Corps • Creativity and self-knowledge • Company building as an art • Collective creativity • The Bento Method  — Brought to you by: Mercury – The art of simplified finances. ⁠⁠Learn more⁠⁠. DigitalOcean – The cloud loved by developers and founders alike. ⁠⁠Sign up⁠⁠. Neo4j – The graph database and analytics leader. ⁠⁠Learn more⁠⁠. — Where to find Yancey Strickler: • X: https://x.com/ystrickler • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yancey-strickler-486b4557/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ystrickler/ Where to find Eric: • Newsletter: ⁠⁠https://ericries.carrd.co/⁠⁠  • Podcast: ⁠⁠https://ericriesshow.com/⁠⁠  • X: ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/ericries⁠⁠  • LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/eries/⁠⁠  • YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@theericriesshow⁠⁠  — In This Episode We Cover: (00:36) Welcome to the Eric Ries Show (04:44) The invention of the high five. (07:22) Our world is the product of innumerable inventions (08:22) The story of Kickstarter (13:48) The difference between a fad and a trend (15:50) The early days, and difficulties, at Kickstarter (17:24) How Kickstarter introduced standards (18:58) The a-ha moment: “Kickstarter is not a store” (20:42) The need for company sacrifice (22:06) The tension between risk and failure (24:16) Kickstarter's early days and how Yancey became CEO (27:12) Mistakes, burnout, and stepping down. (30:05) Yancey without Kickstarter (31:45) Disentangling from the old and starting anew (35:21) Public Benefit Corps and why Kickstarter was among the first ones (39:19) The challenges of running a good company that makes a profit (42:07) Crowdfunding and creativity (46:31) The future of creative work (47:12) MetaLabel (48:48) The curator role (50:26) Moving from solo to cooperative work (52:04) The Leaders Guide on Kickstarter (54:30) Doing work for yourself, in a community of peers (57:29) Self-knowledge as an entrepreneurial asset (59:35) Organization building as an artistic discipline (1:04:30) Humility, fearlessness, and hard work (1:06:25) The Royal Society (1:10:04) Rejecting the extractive model (1:14:50) Succession planning and deprioritizing financial maximization (1:19:52) A new version of the hockey stick graph (1:21:20) The Bento Method: women vs. men (1:26:48) The Golden Ratio (1:30:18) The Dark Forest (1:33:27) How the internet has redefined individuality  (1:36:49) Online institutions of the 21st century — Production and marketing by ⁠⁠https://penname.co/⁠⁠. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email ⁠⁠jordan@penname.co⁠⁠  Eric may be an investor in the companies discussed.

Welcome to Watch. Review. Repeat. This is the podcast where two best friends discuss the latest in film and television and then do it all over again the following episode! To me, my X-Men! Colton, Andrew, and fellow mutant Henrique Jaime team up to talk 'X-Men '97', the unexpected (but welcome) revival of the classic 1990s animated series! 00:00:00 - Intro 00:04:12 - Henrique, Andrew, and Colton's Fun Facts About 'X-Men '97'! 00:11:18 - Nicolas Cage to Star in Amazon Series 'Noir', 'Silk: Spider Society' Series No Longer Moving Forward 00:19:48 - Marvel Studios Teases Release Dates for 'Agatha All Along', 'Daredevil: Born Again', and 'Ironheart' 00:24:38 - Michael Leslie Hired as Screenwriter of Marvel Studios' 'X-Men' Film 00:31:42 - Paul Bettany to Return as Vision in Disney+ Series Set for 2026 00:35:33 - Giancarlo Esposito Added to Cast of 'Captain America: Brave New World' as Part of 22-Day Reshoots  00:42:39 - 'Blade' Faces More Setbacks After Losing Second Director Yann Demange 00:49:16 - 'Venom: The Last Dance' Official Trailer 00:55:42 - 'Batman: Caped Crusader' Season 1 Official Trailer 01:00:24 - 'X-Men '97' (Non-Spoilers and Recommendation) 01:36:48 - 'X-Men '97' (Spoilers) 02:25:49 - Catching Up With Henrique (National Parks, 'Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - Hashira Training Arc', 'Classroom of the Elite' Season 1, The Three-Body Problem and The Dark Forest by Liu Cixin, Yellowface by R.F. Kuang, Tress of the Emerald Sea by Brandon Sanderson) 02:38:18 - Catching Up With Andrew Pt. 1 (Bungalow Adventure, Magic the Gathering, '3 Body Problem', 'The Mole' Season 2, 'Hit Man') 02:41:55 - Catching Up With Colton ('X-Men '97' (More Spoilers), Hillsboro Beach Florida Vacation, 'Nimona', 'The Super Mario Bros. Movie', 'Anyone But You', 'Next Goal Wins', '1776', 'House of the Dragon' Season 2) 02:51:34 - Catching Up With Andrew Pt. 2 ('The Acolyte', 'Star Wars: Tales of the Empire', 'The Boys' Season 4) 02:55:43 - Conclusion/Outro Visit our website! Support us on Patreon! Thank you for listening, and please send any feedback to watchreviewrepeat@gmail.com! Intro/Outro Credit: Mechanolith Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Lords: * Daniel * Andrew Topics: * Hyperthymesia * Animal Well * Bad news for my google alerts: "Twinbeard" is the name of the Helldivers 2 community manager * Dean asks "I know there are many seniors who are looking to start a business during retirement. For those who haven't settled on an idea yet, I'd love to suggest house flipping as a good way to earn income. May I write about this topic in a free article for your website -- specifically, how seniors can get into the house flipping business and become successful at it? I'll be sure to cover all the basics, including how to find the perfect property, how to finance the expenses, how to manage payroll for employees and contractors, etc. I'll also feature a link back to your website." * Should game developers "soak themselves" in games. Referring to this clip of Orson Welles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-qaeIcuyI Microtopics: * Doom Guy: Life in First Person * A well full of animals. * A game that you keep hearing is great from people that you trust. * Remembering every detail of your life even though that's a terrible idea. * A cop asking you what you were doing on the night of November 3rd, 2021. * Fnords. * Eidetic memory vs. photographic memory vs. hyperthymesic memory. * Checking your memory of a time against your written records of that time. * Remembering that you're going to have a conversation about your day tonight so you had better do something interesting. * Data mining electronic records to figure out how you met somebody. * Playing a Sam Barlow game with your bank records. * Navier-Stokes fluid dynamics. * Spending a lot of time frowning. * Dark Forest. * A game providing you with a spoiler-free mechanism of conveying where you are in the game. * Shooting people vs. swording people. * The tools and verbs of just being a little guy. * Seeing a dog doing something you didn't expect to see a dog do. * Being unable to turn a crank because there's a blue ghost. * Choosing not to be a video game. * Setting up Google alerts for your game's working title. * Famous racehorse Secret Legend. * Liking some parts but not liking other parts. * How to construct a Google alert for t the video game Tunic. * Computer vision algorithms to increase yield and profitablity of insect farms. * How seniors can get into the house flipping business. * Collaborating with a spammer to write a poem about house flipping. * Exhorting a spammer to join the discord and post their dreams in the announcements channel. * A think tank dedicated to increasing house flipping around the world, measured by total rotation. * House flipping vs. house spinning. * A skateboard with the word "quaternion" written on it in a sick font. * Trying to flip a house but it gets gimbal locked and you lose everything. * Soaking in films. Just marinating in them. * Having virgin eyes in order to make great things. * Inventing video games from first principles. * The value of outsider art. * Shigeru Miyamoto inventing jumping. * Trying to remember the last time you jumped in real life. * Whether a historian has discovered the cave that inspired the Legend of Zelda. * What Stories Untold says about the Orson Welles quote about having virgin eyes. * Trying to prove yourself to a piece of software. * Trying to tell a story about a spaceship that doesn't involve combat. * 50 Years of Text Games. * Having read a book back when it was a blog. * Whether we have time for another topic. * Mixing a Red Bull with a Caffeine Free Coca Cola. * Sunlight patterns that remind you of wandering in the forest as a child * The disco ball as an extrapolation of dappled sunlight in the forest. * Out of focus motes of light. * Figuring out how to make a desert beautiful. * Living that home assistant life. * Going to a thrift store to buy a lamp to fix the terrible lighting in your hotel room. * A motor that's constantly jiggling a pot of water.

Wait…don't we already have VR headsets? Not like the ones in Netflix's 3 Body Problem, we don't! We're diving headfirst into one of the most talked about sci-fi TV hits of the year to unpack just how close to reality wearable tech like this show's (dangerous) headset might be. Spend some time with us as we look at parallels with modern neurotechnology, and stick around to learn who Hakeem and Tamara's favorite scientists are. And what does Copernicus have to do with all this, anyway? All this and more in the latest episode of Does it Fly? now available everywhere.SUGGESTED VIEWINGWe're switching the order up this week, because, really…we're assuming you've already watched 3 Body Problem on Netflix. But just in case you haven't…get going! We've already spoiled chunks of it for you!Anyway, you're lucky the viewing section is so light (compared to the massive amounts of homework we assigned for our Planet of the Apes episode last week) because there's some cool reading to go along with this week's episode…FURTHER READING Do you want to delve a little deeper into the facts, concepts, and stories Hakeem and Tamara referenced in today's episode? Here are a few recommendations!If you enjoyed the show, you'll want to check out the books that it's based on, known as the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy Liu Cixin. Those books are The Three-Body Problem, The Dark Forest, and Death's End. A perfect way to pass the time while you wait for future seasons of 3 Body Problem on Netflix!Now as for the science end of things…Three-Body Problem (physics)“We're not talking about that today!” (OK, fine, it's the wrong three-body problem, but it's still pretty cool, so check out the link.)Neurotechnology“That [VR headset as seen in Netflix's 3 Body Problem] falls under a somewhat mature now, but definitely super-active field of research and development called neurotechnology. These are brain-human interfaces that occur in numerous ways. And right now, they're being used mostly for good, not for planetary invasion….”“...There's basically three ways we can interface with the brain: magnetic fields, light, and magnetic resonance imaging [see also: MRI] The thing here is the wireless ones are all high resolution/large volume, but they don't have the same degree of specificity as the implants [see also: Neuralink]. So that's where we exist right now, where you can modulate brain activity. This is really good for paraplegics, where they have a system that's mounted on their skull [see also: BCI].SQUID (superconducting quantum interface device)“Squids are these amplifiers, or incredibly sensitive detectors. They can detect something like a single photon of very low energy.”Copernicus“Branded as a heretic for daring to suggest that the entire universe does not revolve around the Earth, but that the Earth revolves around the sun, which I think is a great metaphor for humanity, which is discovering that the Earth is not figuratively the center of the universe and that there are other folks out there.”Rosalind FranklinWinner of the inaugural Tamara's Favorite Scientist award on DiF! See also: The Harvard ComputersIbn al-HaythamWinner of the inaugural Hakeem's Favorite Scientist award on DiF! And here's some bonus reading for you that deals with the tech as it appears on the show…3 Body Problem's Headset Is Not the VR We Want – It's Our Worst Nightmare3 Body Problem's VR Tech Got a Big Glow-Up from the Books3 Body Problem VR Headset Review: Magical Tech In Need Of More AppsWANT MORE FROM DOES IT FLY?The new era of Doctor Who is in full swing on Disney+ right now, so in case you missed it, now would be a great time to revisit our Who-centric episode about the TARDIS!And for everyone keeping up with Star Trek: Discovery every Thursday (as well as Trek fans of all kinds) we broke down the plausibility of the transporter right here.FOLLOW US!Stay in the loop! Follow DoesItFly? on YouTube and TikTok and let us know what you think! And don't forget to follow Roddenberry Entertainment:Instagram: @RoddenberryOfficial Facebook: RoddenberryTwitter: @Roddenberry  *Roddenberry Entertainment participates in affiliate programs and may receive a small commission for links on this page*For Advertising Inquiries: doesitfly@roddenberry.com

Author and astrophysicist Joseph Postma stopped by the podcast to talk about the Dark Forest Theory, and the life-destroying alien parasite situation it points to. Part 2: danikatz.locals.comwww.patreon.com/danikatz Find Dani's books, courses and webinars:https://lnk.bio/danikatz Find Joseph Postma:https://climateofsophistry.com/about-the-author/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgWAqOHtoashttps://www.amazon.com/stores/Joseph-E.-Postma/author/B07L36BS7G?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true Show notes:Dark Forest Encounter Debunking junk climate sciencePeer review paradox- reject flat earth & request proof of round earth Food and fasting~the Phoenix ProtocolCorrelation between diet and unsusceptibility to propagandaPythagoras and Gnosticism- mathematics & nature of realityEinstein~ bad actor Nazis and National SocialismWhat is the Dark Forest? Game theory of alien life3D densities and parasitical species we can't detectGetting us to destroy ourselves- CO2, sun-blocking, etcAntartica- what's up with it? A base? Aliens?Ultimate goal is to perfect the soulAs above, so below- undergoing parasitic cleanses Logic & philosophy- understanding WHYEinstein a noetic parasite by implanting bad ideas into scienceAI as warfareOnline confrontations with mind-controlled scientistsPractical Position- purifying our bodies to repel parasitismConfusion and obscurity of the J question Dissecting the Abrahamic religious ideologies that separate us from Nature's cyclesVassal states of Israel- Oil? Blackmail?How has time been hijacked? Simulation theory aligns with Plato's CaveSubconscious Mind- Do we have Angels within this Intelligent Design?Encryption codes, DNA, spike protein injectionsAll solutions exist in the one mindIdeal future world- small, decentralized communities growing real food

#Cosmos: What is the Dark Forest Theory & What is to be done. Charles Pellegrino, author, Killing Star, https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Star-Charles-Pellegrino-ebook/dp/B0CVMY5L1B/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1A_IY6YrWzQ9HazNTK6SyvuVf_961tWSt48cz1_fhkxV3GFBCKTmZa2Fw_aem_AYePiB8q9hlmqM8HQsQGvUuij-ZLBEvAHRSQEqh7jjzEH99PcWzChp-ymGDYn44g2SsLAKHGxyEQpBSbnTDOeDAr 1920 Merate Italy

PREVIEW: COSMOS: Conversation with author Charles Pellegrino ("The Killing Star," with George Zebrowski) re the Dark Forest Theory of cosmology: that the explanation for the silence of the heavens to our signals is that other civilizations, ahead of us or behind us, aim to avoid attracting malign actors.  More tonight. https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Star-Charles-Pellegrino-ebook/dp/B0CVMY5L1B/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1A_IY6YrWzQ9HazNTK6SyvuVf_961tWSt48cz1_fhkxV3GFBCKTmZa2Fw_aem_AYePiB8q9hlmqM8HQsQGvUuij-ZLBEvAHRSQEqh7jjzEH99PcWzChp-ymGDYn44g2SsLAKHGxyEQpBSbnTDOeDAr 1900 Jules and Madame Verne

In today's episode, we're exploring the frontier of onchain universes, on Ethereum. Autonomous Worlds is the new frontier of digital onchain universes, being pioneered by the Lattice team, of which Justin Glibert on the show today is the co-founder and CEO. Ethereum is not just a financial computer, but a root of state for an infinite number of universes, all with their own laws of physics, objects, players, agents, and state… and, like our universe, still continues with, or without, our presence. Justin walks us through the evolution of Autonomous Worlds. Get ready because you're going to get a taste of where the Internet has always been pointing towards… it just took us a while to get here. ------

Get the book: https://darkforest.metalabel.com/dfa2 Yancey and I visit Montez Press Radio in downtown NYC to discuss The Dark Forest Anthology of the Internet. Follow: https://www.instagram.com/montezpressradio https://www.instagram.com/ystrickler https://twitter.com/ystrickler https://www.instagram.com/metalabel__/ https://twitter.com/metalabel_

A quick solo about some of the non-bmx interests I have that were mentioned in the last episode.

Jeremy Au as a science-fiction and history nerd reviewed the 3 complex themes of Liu Cixin's "Three-Body Problem" series. Spoilers ahead: 1. Social Darwinism: "Dog eat dog" foundational psychological core of human society due to the survival instincts of individual humans, in stark contrast to Western fiction like social utopian “Star Wars,” moral clarity of "Star Trek," inspirational "Lord of the Rings," and political sacrifices of "Game of Thrones". In a dark real-life parallel, the show's TV producer and billionaire Lin Qi was poisoned to death by his business partner due to jealousy and anger. 2. Technology Competition & Blockades: The best way for societies to compete is through technology advancement, e.g. Guns over swords, nuclear missiles over artillery bombs. The Qing dynasty's (1644-1912) self-imposed isolation and technology stagnation led to the "Century of Humiliation" where China repeatedly lost to more advanced foreign powers like the United Kingdom with the Opium Wars, France, Russia, Germany and Japan. China readers currently perceive a similar dynamic in the "USA-China chip war" due to US government bans on advanced semiconductors, tech export controls and competitive R&D industrial policy. 3. Community Over Individual: Collective survival strategies are driven by individual desires to survive, but superior to individualistic decision-making. The series portrays societal responses to external threats and internal divisions, drawing on China's history of mass movements and dynasty vs. warlord eras. This leads to classic human morality being outcompeted by the realpolitik game theory of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD), preemptive strike incentives, and "Dark Forest" as a solution to the Fermi Paradox. Watch, listen or read the full insight at https://www.bravesea.com/blog/three-body-problem Nonton, dengar atau baca wawasan lengkapnya di https://www.bravesea.com/blog/three-body-problem-in 观看、收听或阅读全文，请访问 https://www.bravesea.com/blog/three-body-problem-cn Get transcripts, startup resources & community discussions at www.bravesea.com WhatsApp: https://chat.whatsapp.com/CeL3ywi7yOWFd8HTo6yzde TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyau Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyauz Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeremyau LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bravesea English: Spotify | YouTube | Apple Podcasts Join us at the startup conference Echelon X! We have 30 exclusive complimentary tickets for our podcast listeners. Sign up and use the promo codes BRAVEPOD or ECXJEREMY to claim your free tickets now!

The Universe is incredibly big and seems full of potential for life, with billions of habitable planets. If an advanced civilization had the technology to travel between the stars, at just 0.1% of the speed of light, It could colonize our galaxy in roughly 100 million years. Which is not that long given the billions of years the Milky Way has existed – so in principle any spacefaring civilization should be able to spread rapidly over huge sectors of the galaxy. And yet we see nothing, hear nothing, the universe seems empty. Devoid of others. This is the Fermi Paradox, which we have discussed in more detail in other videos. Confronted with the seemingly empty universe, humanity faces a dilemma. We desperately want to know if we are alone in the Milky Way. We want to call out and reveal ourselves to anyone watching but that could be the last thing we ever do. Because maybe the universe is not empty. Maybe it's full of civilizations but they are hiding from each other. Maybe the civilizations that attracted attention in the past were wiped away by invisible arrows. This is the Dark Forest solution to the Fermi paradox. Sources & further reading: https://sites.google.com/view/sources-darkforest/ Give the show a 5 STAR Review ⭐️ We Highly Appreciate It! Follow the show to join us in this audio experience of Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell. A fan-made show out of admiration for the works of Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode Page Episode Info The Dark Forest - Liu Cixin Topics Intro (0:00:00) Episode 1 - The Wallfacers (0:00:05) Episode 2 - Cosmic Brush (0:03:04) Episode 3 - The Spell (0:05:19) Episode 4 - Natural Selection (0:10:27) Episode 5 - Droplet (0:13:08) Episode 6 - The Snow Project (0:16:15) Contact rehydrate@fastmail.com @rehydratepod @rehydrate@mas.to

The first four episodes of Dan Weiss and David Benioff's Netflix adaptation of Liu Cixin's novel THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM show some promise, but they've burned us in the past so it's hard to get too excited. In episode 307, join Luke Elliott & James Bailey as they propose humanity's envoy for a first contact scenario, discuss the choice to change Wang Maio into the Oxford Five, learn about a real-life poisoning connected to the show, discuss the Fermi Paradox and the “Dark Forest” hypothesis, and wonder if Ye Wenjie is a true religious zealot. Episodes discussed 1 Countdown 2 Red Coast 3 Destroyer of Worlds 4 Our Lord Join them next week as they finish both the book & show and vote on which one is the better version! Ink to Film Full video on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPmCOicM-LU_l-QAiH3WWkw?sub_confirmation=1 Support on Patreon for bonus content, merch, and the ability to vote on upcoming projects! https://www.patreon.com/inktofilm Get The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu or any of the other source novels at the Ink to Film Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/shop/inktofilm Ink to Film's Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Bluesky (@inktofilm) Home Base: inktofilm.com Luke Elliott  Website: www.lukeelliottauthor.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/luminousluke IG: https://www.instagram.com/lpelliott/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@lpelliott Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/luminousluke.bsky.social James Bailey Twitter: https://twitter.com/Jame_Bail IG: https://www.instagram.com/jamebail/ Credits Song: Last Dawn by Ross Bugden: https://youtu.be/wWjgsepyE8I?si=G9HL2QdcBKG76Q7j

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The Fermi paradox has many solutions. Many explanations for the fact that we don't see any signs of intelligent life in the Universe. We ranked all the major ones and put them into tiers from S to D.

In this week's episode we discussed how quickly AI is evolving, and a concept called The Dark Forest. As well as, how eventually we will have to have checks in place to prove that we are human online. I have been thinking about this AI a lot over the last few months, and I came across some videos elaborating on the subject better than I could. As always Jason came with some great stats that back up a lot of what we talked about.Maggie Appleton's Talk:The Expanding Dark Forest and Generative AIOur Links:Retrospect

The Netflix series has finally come out so here's our episode The Three Body Problem by Liu Cixin. You may also like our episodes on The Dark Forest (book 2) and Death's End (book 3). The Drunk Guys Book Club Podcast can be found on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, PlayerFM, Overcast, and where ever fine

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Welcome to a new exhilarating episode of "Adam's Archive," where curiosity meets revelations. I'm your host, Austin Adams, and today's journey is nothing short of a rollercoaster through the corridors of hidden truths and uncovered secrets. Brace yourself as we plunge into the labyrinth of the Epstein saga, unraveling over 10,000 pages of jaw-dropping legal documents. Unearth the names and narratives that have remained shrouded in mystery, from Bill Clinton to Stephen Hawking, and discover the startling revelations that emerged from these files. Next, we navigate through an extraordinary incident at a shopping mall, where reports of 8 to 10-foot tall beings have sparked a storm of speculation. Was it merely a scuffle between youths, or something far more mysterious and ancient? We delve into the enigmatic world of the Nephilim, the legendary giants of biblical lore, and explore the intriguing passages and contemporary discussions about these colossal figures. This episode isn't just a podcast; it's a quest for understanding the unknown and the misunderstood. Whether it's your first time tuning in or you're a long-time listener, hit that subscribe button and leave a five-star review to join us on this thrilling adventure. Head over to YouTube to watch the episode unfold, witness my real-time reactions, and explore the articles and video clips alongside me. Let's embark on this journey of discovery together. Now, let's jump into it!   All the Links: Https://linktr.ee/theaustinjadams Substack: Https://Austinadams.Substack.com   ----more---- Full Transcription    Adams archive.  Hello, you beautiful people and welcome to the Adams archive. My name is Austin Adams, and thank you so much for listening today. On today's episode, we're going to be discussing the two single craziest events that have kicked off our 2024  year.  The first one being that Epstein's documents, I think it was over 10, 000 pages of legal documents were just dropped  over four different days. Listing off the names of several, several people, almost all of them. We've talked about here. I've done, you know, more than a year ago, I did a serious deep dive into all the Epstein documents, the flight logs, the black book. I posted it all. It's on my sub stack. You can go find it right now,  but there's some things  that I don't think that we knew yet that came out about this, not that much though. There was a few names. There was a few.  Really  scathing words that came out, some about Bill Clinton, some about Stephen Hawking, hmm,  some really interesting stuff. So we're going to dive into all of that. What were the most notable things that were discussed about this? Who were the five most important or powerful people that were on this list? And then.  We'll go through the list in its entirety of the names, and I'll see how fast I can do it for you, because it was a lot.  After that, we're going to jump into another topic, which was that there was a bunch of, a bigger police presence than you've seen at every school shooting, at every  Black Lives Matter protest riot, at every January 6th, combined, at a single shopping mall. And apparently it was because these kids were having fights with sticks and fireworks.  Four children, four kids having  you know, violent acts with sticks.  But some people are saying that wasn't the actual reason why. Some people are saying that there was eight to ten foot tall beings that were attacking people. Now it's kind of a weird situation because there wasn't very much video evidence that came from the ground and there wasn't very many people talking about what happened on the inside. You know, today,  you have a Karen going off on a manager at Wendy's and there's always going to be a video of it. But we don't have any video footage of this. So it's pretty weird. But some people, which would lead us to our deep dive for today, have said that they believed this to be the Nephilim.  If you don't know what the Nephilim is, that is the ancient biblical beings that are said to be extremely large individuals. And we will dive into a whole deep dive of what those beings were the passages from the ancient and biblical texts that they were mentioned in. And  Some more recent discussions around them from even Tucker Carlson potentially alluding to these beings. So all of that and more, make sure you stick around, subscribe, leave a five star review, head over there, do it right now. If it's your first time listening, I appreciate you from the bottom of my heart. If it's your second time listening and you're still not subscribed, come on,  go ahead and hit that button. If it's your first time, I forgive you, but I really don't because it just takes two seconds. Go ahead and hit it right now and you'll be having conversations just like this every single week, just like we're having now and you're going to love it. So.  If you've been here for a while, or even if it's your first time, and you're like, man, this guy just sounds awesome. Go ahead and leave that five star review. All right. It's the only way that I can get feedback from you guys. And it's the only way that you can help me get up in the rankings when it comes to the podcast space. Head over to YouTube. You can actually watch the video. See my beautiful face talking about all these things. See me actually pull up the articles right alongside me here.  Here  when I'm talking about those and watch the video clips with me and to see my real reactions So head over to YouTube the Adams archive find the channel there and I'll see you there All right, all of that more buff and  not but first that's what I got for you. Let's jump into it   The Adams archive.   Alright, so the very first topic that we're going to discuss today is going to be that there was the single largest document release regarding Epstein.  It happened over four days. And it, To me, this wasn't a huge deal. What I like about it is the fact that it brought attention back to the Epstein situation. Now, some people are arguing one way or the other, whether that's a good thing, whether it's a distraction from other things that are going on, whether it's an attempt to heighten the tensions of 2024 already leading up to the election cycle.  I don't know.  I think that it's probably  just.  a situation where there was a legal  court  judge that decided they were going to release these documents and then it just reignited the whole Epstein situation. I think that's probably the most likely situations here. I don't think it's a huge distraction. I don't think that these people want to throw everybody under the bus. But what I do know is that almost everybody who was on this list was already, Named  we already knew these names.  We already knew about Prince Andrew. We already knew about Bill Clinton. We already knew about Kevin Spacey We are the new even Stephen Hawking. We already knew these names, right? This isn't very much of this was already out there now. There were some details and some Snippets that have gone viral that have had more of an emphasis on them as a result of these documents But I don't think that it was anything earth shattering.  So the first thing I want to do for you here I want to list the  Let's see, let me pull it up for you here.  I want to list the 90 names.  I want to list the 90 names that were on the Epstein list. In as quick as fashion as possible for you. So the 90 names in 90 seconds that were on  Epstein's list for you, and I'll speak fast, so try and keep up. But I just want to throw all these names out for you, because everybody's like, Where's the list? Where's the list? Where's the list? I don't see a list. I just see documents. Well, here you go. Here is the 90 names that were listed in 90 seconds. You can time me. I'm not exactly sure. Let's see. All right. We're at 2 minutes and 16 seconds. 2 minutes and 20 seconds. We'll begin.  Glenn Maxwell, Virginia Lee, Roberts, Garuff, Kathy Alexander. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's go back.  Seeing that Virginia Garuff's name is on this list, I do want you to know that this list is not just the perpetrators. This list was, and this came out, there was like 170 names. It's like, no, this list is not just the names of the people that were the perpetrators. This list, Virginia Garuff is the one who's  legal case is the reason that this came out, and that's probably why she's number two on here behind Ghislaine Maxwell because it was Virginia Groff's legal case against Ghislaine Maxwell.  So, now that I've preempted that here, I will point out to you within this list some of the names that maybe were a little bit newer, but were always A part of this conversation we've been having for a while.  So here we go.  Ghislaine Maxwell. Virginia Garoff. Kathy Alexander. Miles Alexander. James Michael Ostrich. Philip Barton. Redacted. Number seven. Kate Blanchett. David Boyce. Laura Booth. Evelyn Boulette. Rebecca Boylan. Josh Brunner. Naomi Campbell. Carolyn Casey. Paul Cassell. Sharon Churcher. Bill Clinton, David Copperfield, Alexandra Cousteau, Cameron Diaz, Leonardo DiCaprio, Alan Dershowitz, Mr. Mona Deveson, Redacted, Bradley Edwards, Amanda Allison, Kimberly Espinoza, Jeffrey Epstein, Ann Farmer, Marie Farmer, Alexander Fakai, Crystal Figueroa, Anthony Figueroa, Luis Ferra,  Eric Ganney, Meg Garvin, Sheridan Gibson Butt.  Robert Garoff, Al Gore, Ross Bowe, Fred Graff, Philip Grudegren,  redacted. Shannon Harrison, Stephen Hawking, Virginia Hair, Victoria Hazel, Brittany Henderson, Brett Jeff, Michael Jackson,  Carol Roberts, Cass, Dr. Karen Kutikoff, Peter Listerman, George Lucas, Tony Lyons, Bob Meister, Jamie Melanson, Lynn Miller, Marvin Minsky, redacted. David Mullen, Joe Pagano, Mary Paluga, Jay Stanley Pottinger, Joseph Ricari, Michael Reiter, Jason Richards, Bill Richardson, Sky Roberts, Scott Rothstein, Forrest Sawyer, Doug Schoedl, Kevin Spacey, Cecilia Stein, Mark Tafoya, Brent Tindall, Kevin Thompson, Donald Trump, Ed Tunnel, Emma Vagan.  Kimberly Vaughn Edwards,  Kresenda Valase, Anthony Velardi, Martinez Velasquez, Vicki Ward, Jared Weinfeld, Courtney Weil, Bruce Willis. Daniel Wilson. Andrew Albert, Christians Edwards, duke of York.  There you go. There's your 90 names.  Now again, this is not the client list, right? This is a list of individuals.  That were a part of the documents in general, okay? So some of those people could have been victims, some of those people could have been listed for other reasons.  But, we know some of those names, not even all of those names are the ones that are, you know, have been brought up in the past. There's some really wild ones that have been brought up too. However, I would like to note that there were some ones that stuck out to me. David Copperfield was one that I don't remember exactly  discussing surrounding this  and he's been a big conversation starter around this. Another one is Al Gore. I don't remember Al Gore being another part of this,  before  from before the conversation.  And then another one is who has actually spoken out now is Cameron Diaz has come out to speak out against her name being on the list. Cameron Diaz came out and said that she has had never had any association whatsoever with Jeffrey Epstein. Well, my question would be where did her name come up on these documents, which I guess we could probably look a little bit further to see the actual legal documentation that has been brought up.  But  that's a we could dive into that in just a second here. So there are the 90 names of the individuals. Now let's see if there's anybody who commented on this.  Let's go ahead and see.  Somebody said these names were taken from transcripts of evidence given during Maxwell's trial. Being named means nothing without context, and even with context, the only thing it might spark is a police investigation into a name which is associated with a given incident or set of behaviors.  Alright.  I just saw the greatest thing about Stephen Hawking and I'm going to hold on to that because we're going to talk about Stephen Hawking in depth in just a minute. So I'm going to hold on to that one. So let's let's segue into this.  Okay. Now, another thing that's happened more recently is I believe his name is Andrew. Andrew Epstein has come out and did an interview with Tucker Carlson. going Let me see if I can pull that up. Andrew Epstein being the brother of Jeffrey Epstein said that he no longer believes that Jeffrey Epstein  committed suicide.  And so let's see if we can pull this up. Jeff, Andrew Epstein,  Tucker Carlson.  All right.  And so the reason that this is substantial is because Andrew Epstein is the only family that Jeffrey Epstein has. He's the only person that they should have been contacting as a result of this.  Now maybe I got Mark Epstein. There we go. Mark Epstein is the name  Not Andrew. Maybe I was thinking Prince Andrew for other reasons involved with Jeffrey Epstein, but I digress So let's go to the Tucker Carlson dot com to the Tucker Carlson Network  and read this it says  oh you did a whole episode with him  where he had a discussion with his brother Which I'm sure would be very interesting. So if you want to watch that head over to Tucker Carlson dot  but it's 26 minutes and I'm not going to  drag you through all of that. So that was the situation is that Andrew or Andrew again, Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein, Bruce brother did a interview with, with Tucker Carlson and said that he no longer believes that his brother, Jeffrey was. The person was attempted suicide or committed suicide. He believes that there's something more nefarious about the situation, like everybody else in the world, to be fair.  There's a fair amount of people who too believe, I believe it was even Megyn Kelly came out just the last few days and said that we would be hearing from Jeffrey, she's, so to pre, what she said is that  We're going to be hearing a lot more about Jeffrey Epstein, Megyn Kelly said. We're going to be hearing not only a lot more about him or his case or the situation, but we're actually going to be hearing from Jeffrey Epstein himself.  This year said Megyn Kelly now, I'm not sure what that means to me That means that he's alive and well and is willing to speak out or at least maybe there's some files or videos That he has that were maybe some sort of  I don't know lost videotapes of him speaking about this Honeypot situation, and I think that's a deeper conversation that we should get into now is it seems to be somewhat of a misconception for people who haven't been following this for for as long as I have been in depth. I followed day by day, word by word. The Glenn Maxwell trials even prior to that with Jeffrey Epstein. Went into the black book. I have it on my sub stack. Austin Adams dot sub stack. com. You can go in there, go back through the files and find the black book  for Jeffrey Epstein, where it has the names and phone numbers of all of his associates, every known contact that he had in this book  with their phone numbers. Okay. But anyways, there's a lot of people who are. being privy to this situation now, who maybe weren't before, who don't understand the background. I mean, there's a lot of people who were following this this whole time who maybe just thought, Oh, it's just a bunch of elite pedophiles who are sick individuals and, and they just have a,  a  proclivity to underage individuals and they're just disgusting pedophiles. And, and yes, you would be correct. But also the reason that the, the, the, it goes much deeper than that.  Jeffrey Epstein, and I'll give you the synopsis fairly quickly, Jeffrey Epstein was with Ghislaine Maxwell, okay? Now Jeffrey Epstein, the financier, but very little people know where he got his money from, or his funding, to be a financier, right? And so, the speculation is that, in the correlation, the connections here, is that Jeffrey Epstein with Ghislaine Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, was an agent of the Mossad.  And the Mossad is the CIA of Israel, essentially,  and they're well known as the single most  the, the, the single most powerful and capable intelligence agency in the world, even more than the CIA, which should concern you in and of itself,  but the ties between Ghislaine Maxwell and The Mossad cannot be ignored. Her father  was an agent of the Mossad. Which leads me to believe that there's some connection here. Although, in, in, background piece for her father is that her father actually got pushed off of a yacht and murdered.  It was called an accident, I guess, so I can't say it was murdered, but the official thing is that it was an accident. But he fell off of a yacht and died, and that was the way that he died, which is a super mysterious, weird way to die.  Especially for such a high profile, high net worth individual.  Especially one associated with a foreign entity's intelligence community. You know, but I digress. So the situation is that the ties between Jeffrey Epstein and the Mossad cannot be ignored.  So you take that to its extent, and what people have realized now, and what we actually know from these documents that came out now, is that not only  Was Jeffrey Epstein tied to Mossad, but there was court documents stating blatantly that this was a black male scheme  to get Hollywood elites to get powerful politicians to get people within the highest levels of science and education  to  go and partake in these horrific activities  and then to have  The video evidence of them doing so, so that it could be used against them at will by foreign entities. Now, whether it's just the Mossad, which is what I believe,  or whether it goes further than that, which it very well may, because now we know that the CIA allegedly found all of these videotapes, and then they all went mysteriously missing. All the videotapes that they found, all the blackmail evidence, all of the VHS tapes of these horrific acts happening by these famous elite individuals suddenly went missing. How weird is that?  You know, after it had been raided by the CIA, I believe.  So  this is much deeper than just some guy with lots of money feeding elites, what they're looking for. This is, this is a high level intelligence agency act by a foreign entity being the Mossad of Israel,  the same Israel. Now this is, this is what should infuriate you more than almost anything about the Epstein situation is that you are funding.  What happened on Epstein Island? Did you know that  you are funding what happened on Jeffrey Epstein's Island,  because the individuals who are behind Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and Maxwell's father was the Mossad, the intelligence community behind Israel  and the Mossad  had.  All of this blackmail done on all of the most powerful people in the world so that they could control your reality from the movies that you watch to the universities that you go to, to the scientific journals that you probably don't read,  to the politicians who make the decisions on whether or not where our tax dollars go, the laws that are passed.  Who is, who is,  who is allowed to walk free through presidential you know, signatures.  All of that is being decided through blackmail. Through these honeypot schemes. And a honeypot scheme is basically where you send somebody who's extremely attractive to somebody who's in a position of power. And then you blackmail them by finding some video, photo, text message evidence of them doing something that they shouldn't be doing.  It's a well known tactic.  And it was executed perfectly. By an organization that you are funding. We are currently sending tax dollars to Israel.  Israel's intelligence agency  is the Mossad.  So you're telling me that our tax dollars were going to fund the very organization that was conducting these types of blackmail,  these types of blackmail on elites on Jeffrey Epstein's Island.  Yes, yes, that is what I'm telling you.  And if that doesn't disgust you,  you should get your head checked.  So,  that's a weird realization to me, right?  However, let's move on here, because there's some big names that we can discuss surrounding this, and I could go on and on and on about this honeypot scheme, but I, I, I believe That's exactly what happened. I still don't, I'm still not convinced, I should say.  I'm still not convinced,  that Jeffrey Epstein's dead.  I'm not. You can't convince me of that because there's no evidence.  Just the same way that they brought in, if you go back to the JFK files.  When JFK died, they brought in their own autopsy officials, they kicked everybody else out of the room, they brought in their own autopsy officials, and had their own private autopsy done with nobody around.  And it was funded by the very same organization  who's allegedly the ones who conducted the assassination.  Now, would you imagine  that in a situation where Jeffrey Epstein  In cahoots with these intelligence organizations that those very organizations were able to sneak him out the back door and put a body in a room and then sneak in an autopsy official to write the death certificate and say that it was Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, and by the way, it was also a suicide. Oh, and by the way.  These cameras that are literally everywhere in this jail  just just weren't working. Oh, and by the way, the security footage and the security guards that were supposed to be on on duty at the time fell asleep and they didn't even sign the documents that they were supposed to sign at the time that they were supposed to be there.  That's interesting.  Very interesting.  So, I'm not convinced that he's dead. There's been footage that has circulated about somebody who looked like him, but it looked like it was filmed on a potato, so I don't believe that may have, you know, could have, could have not been him. I believe it was actually footage from the island that was released more recently.  So,  let's look at some of these names that came up here, now that you understand a little bit of the background of what this was, and why nobody's being prosecuted. Well, nobody's being prosecuted because it was probably At the very least  and generously to say the word entrapment because these people you could never get anybody that I know to do these types of things. You never get me to do these types of things. So I don't think entrapment is the right word, but I think that they're afraid that if they would actually go after anybody that was on Epstein's list, if they went after anybody that was on Epstein's list, it would come full circle back around that the ones actually behind Epstein were the very intelligence agencies that our tax dollars are going to fund, whether it be the CIA or the Mossad.  That's all I'm saying.  All right. So here are the top five individuals. The top, not the top five, but the top five most powerful individuals that were on the most recent Epstein documents, starting with number five,  Alan Dershowitz,  a constitutional law professor at Harvard law school and one time impeachment lawyer for former president Donald Trump. Alan Dershowitz is well known in media circles, unsealed documents linked to the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. According to a 2014 court filing in the U. S. District Court, Southern District of Florida, Epstein instructed Jane Doe No. 3 to have sexual relations with Dershowitz on numerous occasions while she was a minor, not only in Florida, but also on private planes in New York, New Mexico, and the U. S. Virgin Islands. In addition to being a participant in the abuse of Jane Doe No. 3 and other minors, Let me share this with you if you're on YouTube with me, so you can actually see what I'm looking at here.  This article comes from  the Christian Post. All right? Tuesday, January 4th. So, it says that in addition to being a participant in the abuse of Jane Doe and other minors, Dershowitz was an eyewitness to other sexual abuse of many other minors by Epstein and several Epstein co conspirators, the court file alleges.  The filing also claims Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement that provided immunity from federal prosecution in the Southern District of Florida, not only to Epstein, but also any potential co conspirators of Epstein, including himself. Now, this is one of the most egregious things about this ever about Epstein is that Alan Dershowitz, the lawyer,  and  if we go back, the former lawyer of  the impeachment lawyer for President Donald Trump.  was involved in getting immunity  for every one of the co conspirators in the state of Florida and Properly executed this and they tried to hide the evidence of this  This deal completely they tried to make sure that nobody knew that Epstein's co conspirators Would be getting off under the name of under the guidance of Alan Dershowitz.  So thus Dershowitz helped negotiate  An agreement with a provision that provided protection for himself against criminal prosecution in Florida for sexually abusing Jane Doe number three. Now this wasn't.  Outright said within the time because he just said anybody any of his co conspirators was what he negotiated this this Agreement,  but he was included in that little did they know which seems like a conflict of interest Dershowitz in a YouTube live stream following the release of the Epstein files acknowledged flying on the Lolita Express in his presence on the Epstein list. Of course, I'm on that list. I was his lawyer I flew on his plane said Dershowitz. I had an innocent relationship with a man who I didn't know  Nobody suspected had done anything wrong.  Yeah.  Okay. Dershowitz.  All right, number four  is this list pulls up here  Number four is going to be  none other  than,  dun dun dun,  come on load the Christian post.  Wow, that's brutal. You'd think I would internet from a,  third world country. Bill Richardson.  So number four on this list is Bill Richardson. Former U. S. Congressman, Ambassador, Secretary of Energy, and New Mexico Governor, Bill Richardson is among the names referenced in the newly listed documents. To Epstein. In a deposition taken May 3rd, 2016, Epstein's accuser, Virginia Garuff, claimed that she was instructed by Epstein's associate and sex trafficker, Julianne Maxwell, to give a massage to Richardson during a trip to Epstein Ranch. In New Mexico, when asked whether she met Richardson, gruff said, I want to say that he went, he was supposed to come over for dinner when we were in New Mexico. I don't know if I met him. I believe that he and Ghislaine had dinner separate from myself. Gruff also said that Maxwell personally instructed her to give massage to Bill Richardson Richardson, the chair of the 2004 Democratic National Convention was also n nominated. For the Nobel peace prize in 2019 for his work in North Korea's nuclear crisis. He died in September of 2023 in August, 2019 Bloomberg reported. Richardson denied ever meeting Garuff called the allegations completely false.  Wow. He died in 2003.  How  could you ever  imagine somebody randomly dying? That was a part of Epstein's situation?  How weird is that?  Now, I don't know much about Bill Richardson, but I do know that they said he was the chair of the Democratic National Committee?  Hmm,  that seems fitting.  Now another thing that people have talked about, and I believe the name's on this list here, so instead of waiting, I'll just tell you.  Some of the most notable things that people would see in the headlines when you saw Jeffrey Epstein's list here is Donald Trump and Bill Clinton.  And if you watched MSNBC, you would have noticed that Donald Trump's name was actually listed eight times  alongside the January 6th insurrection three times within the MSNBC coverage of  the  Jeffrey Epstein documents.  Now the other person's name that I listed was Bill Clinton, which is another one of the two individuals that's listed on this list here. So let's talk about those two individuals while everything else is pulling up here. But one thing that I'd say about the difference between the way that Trump is portrayed within these documents, and the difference between the way that Bill Clinton is portrayed in these documents, and, and this will just tell you everything that you need to know about MSNBC and their reporting, is that when they reported Donald Trump's name eight times and Bill Clinton's name zero times. What they failed to mention was the fact that Donald Trump was essentially exonerated from all wrongdoing within these documents. Now, that's not to say that there won't be more documentation that comes out. That's not to say that Donald Trump is completely innocent because we don't know that.  But that is to say that as far as the evidence is concerned today regarding Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump has done no wrongdoing according to the individuals that have been interviewed at this time.  So that's the first thing that. They failed to mention was the fact that every mention of Donald Trump's name within the Jeffrey Epstein documents stated that no, he never participated in any of these underage activities. Now again, I still think there's some element of guilty by association,  that should be applied here. That, that, that,  I'm just highly skeptical of anybody.  Who is around Jeffrey Epstein at any time and immediately calling them innocent I just I still think that there's a lot to be that that will come out  Especially if you listen to Megyn Kelly, I still think that there's going to be a fair amount of more trials that go on as a result of this But I do think that when you look at the evidence so far it shows that Donald Trump  Did no wrongdoing here.  And it shows that Bill Clinton word for word, Bill Clinton within the documents of Jeffrey Epstein's released documents recently states that Bill Clinton, according to the individual that was interviewed.  He likes his girls young. That was the word for word conversation that was had from the legal documents. Under oath, somebody said, not only does he participate with people who are under 18, illegal pedophilia, but also he likes them young, which to me in the context of this situation tells you that he likes them even younger than 18,  younger, younger, younger. Right?  Now, we also know,  well, and we'll get to that in a second, but that to me is the most egregious thing that we saw when it came to the reporting of this is Donald Trump's name was plastered everywhere about this. Bill Clinton's name was alongside it. Bill Clinton, two former presidents on Jeffrey Epstein's  list  of perpetrators.  Well, no,  one former president  and one,  one vice president would be accurate to say  was not in any way, shape, or form shown to have committed any wrongdoing. And I'll be the first person to call him out when there's evidence to show otherwise. I've posted pictures about him in the past next to Jeffrey Epstein. I'm completely transparent. I have no skin in the game. I will absolutely, 100%, be the first person to call out Donald Trump when we see evidence that he was a part of this. Because we've seen so far, there is very clear evidence.  I believe Bill Clinton's name was mentioned 157 times throughout the documents.  Specifically saying, in one instance, that he likes his girls young.  Ew.  Now, let's go to the third  most powerful person, because now we know who number two and number one are, so I'm sorry for  Going back and forth on ya, but one that surprised me a little bit that I didn't see, at least I didn't dive into enough, and I haven't seen evidence of before, so let's read about this now. Says, Climate alarmist and former vice president Al Gore is mentioned in nearly 1, 000 pages of court filings and other documents linked to Epstein. While Gore was not identified as one of the Epstein's alleged clients, the former vice president was named in May 2016 deposition by alleged Epstein victim Johanna Schoenberg, who denied ever meeting Gore. Or seeing him or his wife, Tipper Gore, on Epstein's private island in Little St. James.  In a separate filing on April 2016, Gore was named as a part of a list of documents requested by attorneys for Maxwell in a civil defamation lawsuit. The filing concludes an objection from lawyers from Epstein's accuser, Gruff, in response to a request by Maxwell's attorneys to turn over all photographs or video containing any image. Of you and Gore, along with several other individuals, including Clinton, Prince Andrew, and Stephen Hawking.  In the court filings, Gore is not accused of any wrongdoing or illegal activity. Okay, so again, why are we talking about these people? Right, this is what you have to be careful with, with these documents, is that we can't just immediately say that they're guilty and they're this type of person. Right, because I hadn't read this yet, and I didn't know. Al Gore was not accused of any wrongdoing. Now again, there is some essence, just for Trump, as there is here for Al Gore, of guilty by association to me. I don't believe that I've been friends with any high level blackmailing pedophiles before.  I've never flown to any suspicious islands. With children's toys where they shouldn't be,  and I've never been in a situation where my name was listed in Jeffrey Epstein's documents,  so  it's a little hazy,  but let's go ahead  and let's just see  where this takes us  with Bill Clinton's name. As that loads, let's go back to our next document. All right, so I'll take you through some of the actual documents that were discussed here and the word for word conversations that were had surrounding some of these individuals. All right, so  again, I think That you have to be careful when you're looking at these because some of the names on these lists  were Individuals who were not being accused of anything specific  But  let's look at the actual documentation here. And this is from a Substack article Oh,  and by the way, another really  famous individual that was on Jeffrey Epstein's documentation and lists here was the former prime minister of Israel. Oh.  So you mean to tell me the very association that Ghislaine Maxwell's father worked for,  you know, the Mossad and the person that they worked for there, the prime minister of Israel, went and visited Jeffrey Epstein at his New York town home.  That's weird.  And when he did it, he covered his face with a scarf. Even there's pictures out there of him covering his face with a scarf.  All right. So let's go through some of this documentation here  from the list.  And one of the names that shocked me the most.  But we'll get to him in just a minute.  But you can walk around, walk around, you can actually walk through these documents with me.  If you're on YouTube, again, go to YouTube, type in the Adams Archive, and you can subscribe there. All right, so here we go.  This portion, the top portion is going to be around prints. Andrew. So it says new details on the allegations against Prince Andrew have not also surfaced. Miss, and I'm just not going to be saying names of victims from here on out, that was silly to begin with, also testified that she met Prince Andrew in Virginia Corrath when she was 17 years old in New York City, along with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Here is her testimony. And do you recall who, if anyone,  was at Jeffrey Epstein's home when you arrived? Yes. When I first walked in the door, it was myself, Ghislaine, headed for the staircase and said,  Told me to come up to the living room and what happened at that point when you came up to the living room? I came up and saw Virginia, Jeffrey, Prince Andrew, Ghislaine, in the room. And did you meet Prince Andrew at the time? Yes. At Epstein's New York home was a Prince Andrew puppet, apparently from a BBC production. Weird. Maxwell brought it down for Prince Andrew and either Maxwell or Epstein took a scandalous photo of Prince Andrew with the girls.  They put the puppet on Virginia's lap and sat, I sat on Andrew's lap, and they put the puppet's hand on Virginia's breast, and Andrew put his hand on my breast, and they took a photo.  The most, the more disturbing allegations against Prince Andrew came directly from Garuff. Please name a person that Glam Maxwell directed you to go have sex with. And she said, Prince. Andrew. Now, the only reason I'm saying Garuff's name is because that's been the most high profile victim of some of this and she's come out and obviously been the forerunner in the victims to actually go after these people and is very, very open and public about it. Glenn Dubin  is another one. So it says Garuff also alleged that she was directed to have sex with Epstein's friend and billionaire and then hedge fund manager, Glenn Dubin. Okay, well I need you to say the time when Maxwell directed you to go have sex with another person. So can you please tell me to whom Glenn Maxwell asked you to go have sex with another person?  Mr. Edwards, the lawyer, said, Object to the form.  And then she said, A. Glenn. Dubin.  Dubin's ties to Epstein have been previously reported back in 2009 after Epstein was given his sweetheart plea deal from the Department of Justice. The Dubins hosted Epstein for Thanksgiving dinner.  Wow.  That must be quite the Thanksgiving dinner. Now one of the bigger names that we'll see here that came up to me that was the most surprising, you know, who's surprised by hedge fund managers and all that stuff. Well, let's just, let's take it in stride. It says Thanksgiving dinner telling his probation officer, they were 100 percent comfortable with his being around their teenage daughter. Ew.  Another one was Tom Pritzker. Tom Pritzker is a billionaire businessman serving as executive chair for Hyatt Hotels and a chairman and CEO of the Pritzker organization. He's also a member of the Aspen Institute. Gruff alleged she slept with him once.  Now, if we go into the conversation here, it says, if I were to ask you the question, how many times did you have sex with Tom Pritzker? Do you know what that question means? She said, I believe so. All right. And what is the answer? I believe I was with Tom once.  Next one is David Copperfield. Magician, magician David Copperfield also emerged in the latest Epstein release. While there are no sex related allegations against Copperfield, at this time it's clear the witness testimony that he was friends with Epstein and had at least some knowledge of what was going on in Epstein's home.  Perhaps he had been informed by Epstein or Maxwell that they were recruiting process where girls were paid to find other girls according to Johanna,  the victim. Have you ever met David Copperfield?  Copperfield, yes. And do you recall when you initially met him? Yes. Can you tell me what that was about? Sure, someone called me from the house and said that he would be there, and if I wanted to come have dinner, then I could meet him. And what happened at the dinner, if anything? He did some magic tricks. Did you observe David Copperfield to be a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's? Yes. Did Copperfield ever discuss Jeffrey's involvement with young girls with you? He questions me if I was aware that girls were getting paid to find other girls. Did he tell you any of the specifics of that? And no.  And the biggest reveal for me from all of the Epstein documents  that I hadn't seen before that it had no really backing until this more recent release is Michael Jackson's name came up in the Epstein documents. That's right. Michael Jackson. Now, again, I don't think this should surprise very many people when you get into the highest levels of Hollywood elites and Hollywood elite  pedophiles.  He's probably one of the first names that comes up.  But  even Michael Jackson, the king of pop himself, was friendly with Epstein. He was at Epstein's Palm Beach mansion at least once, as explained by the victim. Did you ever meet anybody famous when you were at Epstein?  She said, I met Michael Jackson. Oh, really? And where was that at his house in Palm Beach at Jeffrey's house in Palm Beach. Did you massage him? She said, I did not. She would also testify that Epstein would speak on the phone with either celebrity with other celebrities, including Leonardo DiCaprio and Cate Blanchett.  Here's the transcript said I was, I saw one press report that you said you met Cate Blanchett or Leonardo DiCaprio. I did not meet them. No, when I spoke about them, it was when I was massaging him. And he would get off, he would be on the phone a lot of the time, and one time he said, Oh, that was Leonardo, or that was Cate Blanchett, or Bruce Willis, that kind of thing. So, just name dropping. Yes. Okay.  Here's the closing thoughts from this article. It says many of the documents that were released today were previously released in the course of Garuff vs. Maxwell's litigation, albeit in a more redacted form.  For example, one document from today's allegations that claimed Maxwell took the passport of a 15 year old girl. We reported on that document back in 2022, it said. Also, as we discussed on December 19th of 2023, not all the Jane Doe's are alleged to have committed wrongdoing,  or John Doe's, sorry. Today's documents included John Doe's who were doctors to the victims, friends of the victims, and family members of the victims.  It's been unfortunate and rather sad to see the media and various morons with large platforms on social media. The list is long and distinguished to lump those innocent people with the predatory John Doe's, as if all the names to be released were part of Epstein's list. If there is a positive to all of that, We guess it's that you can can't really tell who doesn't, you can really tell who doesn't do the reading anyways. Then this is what I preempted that 90 person list with, right. It's like, you can't just go look at these names and say every single one of them was one of the perpetrators. No, you have to dig deeper than that  anyways. The list of unknown John Doe's as opposed to the known John Doe's, such as Sarah Kellen, who are alleged to have committed abuse, is rather small. Today's release doesn't include all the perpetrator, John Doe's. There are more names set to be released in the coming days. This includes John Doe 113, a purported Epstein affiliate and witness,  witness who is alleged to have engaged in serious wrongdoing.  And we'll be here to report.  The developments.  All right. So there you have it. Now  let's go back  to  the victim or I'm sorry, not the victim, but one of the most interesting cases that has come up, the  probably biggest,  biggest,  most made fun of individual from all of this and rightfully, right. If you're on this list and a part of this, obviously  you deserve to be ridiculed endlessly for the rest of your life.  But,  Stephen Hawking was on Jeffrey Epstein's list released.  Hmm,  you say Stephen Hawking? Isn't that guy a quadriplegic?  Yes! Yes, he is.  I have questions, and I'm sure so do you,  but his name was on the list, and by far,  by far, the best joke that I've seen on this so far  is what I had mentioned earlier that I just ran into when I was looking at all of this,  and it said,  Stephen, did you hear about Stephen Hawking being on Jeffrey Epstein's list? Yes. Yes, I did.  He was tried, convicted and sentenced.  He got the chair.  All right, so Stephen Hawking was on the list. Now this is probably,  again, like I said, the, the most hilarious of them all and not really hilarious. It's not, none of it's funny, obviously, but the most crazy wild is probably more accurate.  Stephen Hawking was now the center of every internet meme of all time now because he was found within the documents saying that he loved being a part, well, One of the victims, I guess,  said that he loved being a part of underage orgies.  And this comes from NDTV. It says, Okay, we all know all of that.  Jeffrey Epstein once proposed A reward to disprove an alleged accusation involving renowned physicist Stephen Hawking, a report said. The latest finding comes in a large trove of documents released due to a lawsuit filed by Virginia Garuff, Epstein accuser against Ghislaine Maxwell, an accomplice to Epstein. In a 2015 email, Epstein reportedly Suggested to Maxwell that she could issue a reward to anyone who could disprove  Giroff's allegations. Specifically, Epstein mentioned a purported claim that Hawking had participated in an orgy on Epstein's private island in the Virgin Islands. It's important to note that there are no specific allegations directly from Giroff regarding Hawking and that Hawking has never been charged with any sexual misconduct.  Hawking did visit Epstein's private Caribbean Island as a part of a science conference trip, of course, to St. Thomas in March 2006, shortly before Epstein faced his first charges. Photos from the events show Hawking participating in activities on Epstein Island. However, the newly revealed email did not contain any evidence to substantiate the claim against Hawking. The same email also referred to a separate allegation involving President Bill Clinton, who Epstein said was falsely accused, of course, right? So basically what was happening in this situation is that Jeffrey Epstein was probably  had Stephen Hawking or his crew reach out to him and go, Hey, we need you to find somebody who, in case something happens or this information comes out, is a friend of the individuals that were around this area that are making these claims that would then say that he was not there and he didn't participate and none of this is true. So he was just saying, I'll pay you or pay the, I will reward the individual.  the amount of millions of dollars  to potentially lie  and say that he wasn't a part of this,  which to me tells me, again, most of what you need to know.  It says  Virginia Garaffe was also accused upseen trafficker and forcing her to have sex with Prince Andrew, King Charles, thirds, the younger brother on three occasions when she was 17 in the 2022 statement, following an out of court settlement with Garaffe, Prince Andrews lawyer stated his intention to make a substantial donation to grow up, charity, to support a victim's rights.  Yeah, okay.  Now, another part of this is, did you know?  That the Simpsons actually predicted Stephen Hawking  being  a pedophile.  And the video, I saw the video of this, is he's basically in a  a gazebo in his wheelchair. And he goes to leave and, and picks up,  what is it? Not Marge's daughter. I forget the, how can I not know that? Right? Come on.  Let's see if it's on here. But anyways  Maggie, right? Is that Maggie? Yeah, I think it's Maggie. Or is Maggie the one, the younger one? Yeah, Bart,  Homer,  Maggie.  Yeah, who cares?  I'm sure you're shaking and your fist at me right now. But anyways, I gotta keep a lot of other stuff in here And I haven't watched The Simpsons in probably 15 years. So to be fair  but  Allegedly, this was a another Simpson conspiracy win here was Stephen Hawking picking up One of the Simpsons children and taking them on a little flight with him  after he had  left this little scene on the Simpsons. So  let's see if we can get any of the comments here from the comments section.  But, pretty wild stuff. Yeah, just, just the, the similarity, the correlation to the events is a little uncanny to say the least.  Side note, I do find it funny, I did a video the other day about Madison Cawthorne, if you haven't gone and watched the  Dave Chappelle comedy special that he just had released on Netflix, he actually does a joke about Madison Cawthorne, and I've had some  short conversations with Madison Cawthorne before through social media, and  he, he  actually made a joke about Madison Cawthorne, and it was pretty good, it got a little dark for a second  but it was a funny joke, and Madison Cawthorne took it in stride and actually went and To the show of Dave Chappelle  and to see Dave Chappelle making fun of him Which I think is just the all time like best move that you could do in that situation is like the last thing you should do when somebody you know makes fun of you or  your  background, your, your shortcomings  is try to cancel them like the left is constantly trying to do. Right? We've seen people from, from the left you know, always trying to, you know, there's the big walkout because of him and all this other crazy stuff. So it just seems like the wrong way to go about that. And Jeff. Or,  And Madison Cawthorn  actually drove out to the place where it was closest to him that he could go and have a,  a actual full show of Dave Chappelle. So he could be made fun of directly by Dave Chappelle, which I just love.  And it was uncanny because Dave Chappelle was making fun of like, why, why are you inviting a,  he said, quadriplegic to a, to an orgy? Like, what is he going to do? Just wheel around and. Look and you basically just invited a snitch to come in there and snitch on everybody and you can't even participate and you know It's way funnier than me So go watch it and it was hilarious but the fact that the timing of that coming out at the same exact time that we find out that Stephen Hawking was Included in these Epstein orgies is like just just pretty weird  Alright, so the next situation that we're going to discuss here  is going to be that in Miami  There was  hundreds, what looked like, of cops.  In Miami, responding to a call, allegedly, about children fighting each other with sticks and fireworks. And I think the number that I saw was four kids, or young adults, fighting each other with sticks. And you look at the videos of this, and there was at least 85  cop cars lined, I've never seen anything like it in my life, lined down the road, to respond to this call about four children.  Fighting with sticks and fireworks inside of a mall.  That seems weird,  but there was reports coming out afterwards of individuals who were being interviewed because there was no footage of these kids fighting with sticks. There was no footage of the fireworks being shut off inside of this mall,  which is weird because you have that much of a police presence. First of all, why do you have 70 cops? So you can't imagine how many cops were actually there, but 70 cop cars lined up all the way down the street just to respond to a call about four kids fighting each other with sticks. Dicks, not machine guns, not Tommy guns, not  RPGs, no sticks.  Okay? So weird. And there's no footage about it. And you, you go into any tropical smoothie and you'll see that there's a video somewhere on Tik Tok of, of a Karen yelling at a tropical smoothie manager somewhere. Like, if this was the case and it warranted this type of response, why not have  video evidence of this?  But there were people who came out from this Miami mall, allegedly,  and said that. The reason that they were, the reason that there was such a large presence there was that because there was a large  amount of shadowy aliens chasing down people in the mall that were reportedly eight to 10 feet tall. Now, this is going to lead us into our deep dive for this week, which is about the Nephilim, which is the ancient biblical beings, which were allegedly very tall and very strong and descendants of God and man.  But we'll get into that deep dive in a minute. Whether or not I believe this is the case is another story, because it seems to me like, hey, if there's 8 to 10, if I think there's going to be footage of  14 year olds fighting with sticks, I definitely think there's going to be footage of 8 to 10 foot tall beings chasing people down in a shopping mall,  unless there was some sort of men in black, you know, memory stick that erases everybody's memories and phone footage from iCloud.  I don't know. I just don't believe that probably either.  Right, there's probably going to be footage that comes out about that, either which way. So the weird thing is that we still don't really have the full narrative from inside or outside from the police that were there of what actually happened within this mall. But the reports that came out from within, and people who claim to have been inside of this mall at the time that this happened, was that there were shadow like alien figures chasing people down.  So this comes from CBS news,  Miami,  and here's the article. It says a large brawl between teenagers caused chaos at Bayside marketplace in downtown Miami on Monday night. However, social media users claimed that what ensued then was much more.  As the fight drew a heavy police presence to the area that evening, rumors quickly spread around Twitter and other social media platforms, suggesting that police weren't there to handle a group of rowdy teens, but rather nine or eight to 10 foot tall shadow aliens.  According to an amateur video posted online, there was moments when a big creature could be seen in plain sight standing in front of the entrance to the shopping mall, causing many online conspiracies. Conspiracists  . I like that online. Conspiracists. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm a conspiracist to post their takes on exactly what happened that Monday night, and of course the memes came flooding in as well. Hmm. So here is the video of the amount of cop cars that were there, and I'll share this with you if you're on YouTube.  Here it is.  Let's watch this video. Here's the actual like, and we'll just kind of skip around so that we get to the,  get to the  part where you see the unbelievable amount of police officers that were actually here on site.  If it'll load for us.  Here we go.  I'll turn the footage off or the sound off for you guys. So if you're on the podcast, it doesn't blast your ears  just like that.  So it's panning and as it's panning, you see down the road. Of this like, side street in front of the mall. I guess every time I  go to turn the sound off, it's also pausing it.  Here we go, let's just do this.  There we go, it's panning and there's  10, 20,  30, 50,  70, like so many cop cars. Lined all the way down this whole road. So many cop cars.  So, let's go on to the next part here. I don't know if the rumors are about the aliens in the Miami Mall are real, but I do know I've never seen this many police in one place, said one ex user. Wow, thank you for your feedback.  Has some mean videos. Everybody has cell phones. Nobody has an up close video of the eight, 10 foot aliens at the mall. Another user posted. Yeah, good point.  Me greeting the aliens at the mall. Isn't just some memes. All right.  So I don't know what's going on here. I do know  that there's a increasing amount of conversations surrounding beings. Surrounding aliens, surrounding spiritual beings, surrounding, you know, how many times have we heard about aliens over the last year, it is absolutely ramping up in the public psyche, which to me is priming, right? I think we're being primed. I think we're being primed for  some sort of catastrophe event, you know, whether you want to call it project blue beam or whether they're actually is going to have something that ends up coming out  that is real. Yeah. And they're priming us for that thing, potentially. But I do believe we're being primed for the situation. You want to go back to  the most you know, publicized alien events over the last six months, let's say. There was the woman on the plane. That motherfucker right back there is not real. And, you know, remember her, right? That was priming. Right? I think, I think, you know, whether she was a part of it or not, whatever. But I do think that there are certain news entities and algorithms from social medias that can take a video like that and either do one of two things. They can suppress it, or they can add fuel to the fire. They can decide that they're going to give it 50 million views.  They make those decisions, right? So when they decide whether to suppress a video,  amplify it, you should pay attention as to why, right? Maybe that, that's what happened. And maybe she was drunk and maybe nothing happened,  but still  that video was allowed to circulate the way that it did through social media and then through news organizations. So whether or not that was It doesn't have to be intentional. She doesn't have to be an actress. It doesn't have to be this crazy conspiracy to happen. Maybe she was drunk on a plane and took a  Valium when she shouldn't have or a Xanax. And then, Drank too much and she saw something weird and she was all whatever messed up and now she's you know a living meme for the rest of her life. But,  so there was that event the first one that set it off a little bit. And there's been all those the senate hearings and stuff like that too, but let's let's not even talk about those. Let's talk about the social media aspect.  Then, there was the video footage of somebody in their backyard who called the cops  on exactly what's being reported here, an 8 to 10 foot tall being in their backyard that they allegedly found on their security footage.  Interesting.  And now,  another situation that's circulating like crazy is the fact that there was these 8 to 10 foot tall, spiritual, Shadowy beings inside of this mall,  and that's why the police showed up in this way. So I absolutely believe we're being primed in some way, shape or form.  If you want to go back and look at the, you know, then the whole episode on project blue beam,  I'll give you a synopsis.  Project blue beam is essentially the idea that our government is going to cause some sort of  catastrophic illusion that makes it seem as if aliens are attacking us to bring on one world government to fight it off. Okay. Which, you know, is interesting. I, you know, I'm reading a book right now that's actually going to become a Netflix series that I would highly recommend,  which is The Three Body Problem, which is a Chinese book.  It's a three part fiction sci sci fi book that you can read and I highly recommend it. It's beautifully written. It's really well done. It's really interesting. It brings up some philosophical  conversations. It brings it jumps all through these beautiful timelines and There's, there's so many well done elements to it. I would highly recommend it. The Three Body Problem and then  The Dark Forest and then Death Sent is the, the three part series of this, this book series. But it's actually going to be a Netflix series that comes out. Although from the trailer of the Netflix series, I'm a little disappointed because I'm a big fan of this book that I'm reading. I'm on the third one right now. I'm about, I don't know, 25 percent through it, but.  They're not, they're not super light books, but I, again, if you read, go read it, and if you don't read, maybe go read the first one, because it's gonna get on Netflix here in March, and but, but it looked like in the trailer, they kind of butchered it. There was a Chinese  version of it where I'm, seems like they were much more aligned with the way the book was written. And then the Americanized version of it looks like they took a lot of liberties that they shouldn't have taken. And it's done by the same people that did Game of Thrones. So it's obviously going to be pushed like crazy  and it's coming in March, I think. So if you have the time, grab the three body problem, highly recommend it. I think you would like it. I've enjoyed it. It's the first sci fi book I've ever really read but it's been really fun journey for, for myself. So I think you'd like it too. And if you care, it's.  It's  the, the person who wrote the foreword for it, maybe not the foreword, but just wrote a review for it that's on the very front of it is Barack Obama, which is like the most random shit ever,  anyways,  so so that's where I believe, I, I believe we're being primed, I believe this is being allowed to circulate this way, I think that they probably, probably wanted to pump up the conspiracy theorists, just the same way they did with Q, right? They're going to infiltrate the communities and start to put stuff on Reddit and, and, and put the videos out there and, and spark all this conversation so that eventually some, some things going to happen, right? We look back at COVID and even back in 2000 and geez, I don't remember the date, but, but Bill Gates did a, did a,  a.  Speech on viruses and how it's going to cause this nationwide pandemic. And you look at the,  the who or something wrote, wrote a gosh, I can't remember the document now, but you can go back. I've talked about it before. There was a document written on the direct response by the, this, whatever government organization was might've been the NIH about how to drill, how to deal with a Corona virus. If it just so happened to break out and it was like two years prior and it outlined exactly basically how. They approached this  COVID situation. So whatever.  But I, but I think that was priming and I think this is priming now and I think something will happen there. This is all leading up to something and whether it's this year or next year,  the reason that.  And if you listen to my last podcast, and I don't want to go on too many side tangents here, so let's just keep this the mainstream.  I believe we're being primed. I believe that this is happening intentionally. I believe it's being allowed to circulate the way that it is right now because there's going to be something that happens, whether it's a trove of information that they're just getting us ready to like,  to sleep about aliens until they actually tell us, yeah, they're real and hey, we're in contact with them and we've been in contact with them for over a hundred years. And guess how you got internet and guess how you got that cell phone that you can FaceTime your grandma six fucking million miles away from you and get instantaneous access to all the information you could ever want at will and Watch midget porn before you go to bed, whatever it is that you do, use the internet for  and play video games and all of these other, all the technology that has come out from humans  over the last hundred years. You look at the trajectory that we were on for technology,  the, the thousand years prior was nowhere near, nowhere near the amount of technology that we've come out with in the last 50, a hundred years, a hundred years, let's say a hundred years  is unbelievable.  My firm belief, I firmly believe that the reason that we have all the technology we have, internet, cell phones, the basically almost anything and everything that's not a physically tangible, if it's a frequency that goes through the air, like Nikola Tesla stuff, right?  I believe that it is not of this world. I believe that we are gaining technology. tips from some other entity that was either here before us or came from somewhere else. And you can call me crazy if you want to, but I just don't believe you. You're going to tell me that internet was designed by some random idiot like me in a basement by himself, like, or some five guys in a  room together with A sharpie, like, I don't believe you, it's just, it's not convincing to me, but it is super convincing that somebody else who had far more technology than us has been dropping little pieces of it from time to time, whether that's directly through to you know, what Tucker Carlson will come out and say in just a minute here, when we watch his video is that they're in contact with these beings. They've been in contact with these beings. These beings have been here. They've always been here.  And he believes they're spiritual beings.  Just, you know, we'll get into that in a minute.  But anyways, that's the story of the mall. That's my beliefs on that. And this is where I think it's going. I think that there will be some precipice of information that's released or some event. It's going to be information or an event.  And I guess the information would be an event in and of itself if you've been following this long enough.  But I absolutely believe there's going to be a, a,  this happened big precipice that all of this priming has been about for so long. We're being told aliens this, and aliens that, and UFOs are real, and they go into the water, and this and that, and, you know,  And they've basically, you know, I heard Joe Rogan talk about this this way, it's like, they've made being interested in aliens and aliens being released as like, boring now. That nobody really even seems to care. Like it's, it's so wild to see the way that it's been done. It's like, they've lulled everybody to sleep by making it 1, 500 page Senate hearings and Like, they just, when you were growing up in the 90s, you probably thought it was going to be some big saucer, just like,  over top of your town, and then it goes over the farm,  and up goes a cow, from like a big blue beam of light.  That was what we all thought it was going to be. And it's not going to be that. It's not Independence Day. Or maybe it fucking will be, which is probably the most terrifying of the events, right?  But anyways, that's wher

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Episode Summary This week on Live Like the World is Dying, Eleanor Goldfield comes on to talk about her film, "To the Trees," a documentary that highlights forest defense tactics in Northern California. The film is meant to call into question our current relationships to nature, how we might reframe them, and why that reframing is vital to our survival and having a livable future. Guest Info Eleanor Goldfield (she/her) is a filmmaker and journalist who works to highlight different movement and struggles. You can find her work and her film "To the Trees" at tothetreesfilm.com and artkillingapathy.com. Eleanor can also be found on Twitter @RadicalEleanor and Instagram @RadicalEleanor Host Info Inmn can be found on Instagram @shadowtail.artificery Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Transcript Live Like the World is Dying: Eleanor on "To the Trees" & Forest Defense **Inmn ** 00:15 Hello, and welcome to Live Like the World is Dying, your podcast for what feels like the end times. I'm your host today, Inmn Neruin, and I use they/them pronouns. Today we are talking to a filmmaker about a really beautiful film called To the Trees. And I'm really excited for you all to hear this conversation. We're going to talk a lot about logging and forest defense and just kind of like the extraction industry in general, and then just about some, you know, cultural or psychological paradigms that we have around resource extraction. But first, we are a proud member of the Channel Zero Network of anarchists podcasts. And here is a jingle from another show on that network.  **Inmn ** 01:40 And we're back. Hi, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Could you introduce yourself with your name, pronouns, and a little bit about your background, and what you're here to talk about today?  **Eleanor ** 01:55 Sure, thanks so much for having me. My name is Eleanor Goldfield. She/her. I'm a queer creative, radical filmmaker, and journalist. And I've been doing frontline--I hesitate to say activism--I've been doing frontline actions and journalism since 2010 together. And before that I'd been doing organizing and community organizing since about 2003, before the second Iraq War. And I'm here today to talk about my latest offering in the film domain, which is called, "To the Trees," and it's about forest defense tactics in so-called Northern California and also about our relationship to nature and the necessary shift that that must take for us to have a livable future. **Inmn ** 02:50 Cool, um--I mean, not cool that a film like this needs to get made but cool that a film like this now exists and can teach people a lot of really awesome things. I highly encourage everyone to go out and watch the movie. It's really wonderful. It's really beautiful. But could you kind of give us just like a recap of the movie. **Eleanor ** 03:17 Sure. Yeah, and the films available at ToTheTreesfilm.com. And all of my work is also available at ArtKillingApathy.com. So kind of a general overview of the film is that I went out there to do.... This is kind of how I work. I ask folks if they need any support--and I'm ground support, by the way, because I don't do heights. Although, I did climb a redwood when I was out there, which was a terrifying experience. And I'm never doing it again. **Inmn ** 03:49 They're so big,  **Eleanor ** 03:51 They're ginormous. And that was my first...that was the first tree I decided to climb because...yeah, whatever. And it took me 45 minutes. And it's 200 feet up in the air, and I was terrified. And it took me like 15 minutes to get up the courage just to step off the platform. And the tree sitter, they were like, "You just step up," and I'm like, "What do you just step up? I'm gonna die," and they're like, "No, you're not. You're gonna be fine. I swear" and I'm like, "Oh God, this is so terrifying." And they're like, "Yeah, maybe you are ground support." **Inmn ** 04:20 Ground support is crucial. **Eleanor ** 04:23 It is crucial. Yes. And it's very much.... That's very much me. I was built to like just be grounded, I think. So I went out there basically saying, "I would love to help you all and do support and also, if it's cool with you, I'll bring a camera and I'd love to just hear some of your stories." And so folks were cool with that. And so there I go, traipsing into the woods. And it's a beautiful tree village. And the redwood forests, if folks have never seen them, I mean it's like Narnia. You know the forest floor is Like this plush, you know, soft and welcoming space. And then you look up and it's like the trees are so tall that you can barely see the crowns. It's just kind of like this green haze above you. And so I just started talking to folks and talked to a couple of tree sitters. I also spoke with somebody who does more of the judicial side of things, like trying to get forest...or like logging companies in court and how that kind of works with tree sitters. And then I also spoke to an indigenous woman, Marnie Atkins, who is a member of the Wiyot tribe, spoke to her a lot about perspectives on what's going on in these forests and the paradigms that are different between her people and the colonizers who came. And so it's kind of a.... [trails off] I call it at the end, I have this, I have this slide that says, "To the trees: It's a dedication, a call to action, a promise, and a militant apology." And I wanted folks to feel that, that it's an offering and it's also an invitation, not just to act in whatever ways we can but also to question the way that we think about these beautiful places, whether they be the redwood forests or whether they be the the ecosystems that are outside your front door. **Inmn ** 06:42 Yeah, yeah. And it's.... I feel funny that this is one of my first questions, but it was one of the pieces of the film that kind of really got me--it's like always knowing that Capitalism uses things for really silly things--but learning that the main use of redwood trees is to just turn them into kind of crappy decks. Is that right? **Eleanor ** 07:12 Yeah, yeah, it's based on market forces. The best use of a redwood tree is decking. And not only that, but redwoods can be 2000 years old. And of course, if you were to chop down a 2000 year old tree--which by the way, there's no law against it in California or anywhere else in the in the United States--if you were to do that, yes, that deck would last a while--it wouldn't last 2000 years--it would last a while. But the way that they cut down trees at the rate--because of course, no one's gonna wait 2000 years--they cut down these trees in their infancy. So the strong heartwood of the tree has not had a chance to develop. And so you're cutting down these trees, you know, destroying any future that they might have to rebuild an ecosystem, and you're turning them into a deck that is not even going to last like a decade because it's just not made of wood that has had a chance to mature. And so you're literally destroying burgeoning ecosystems for the sake of a deck that is going to last less than, you know, the length of a Britney Spears' single. It's just...it's ridiculous. **Inmn ** 08:35 Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's one of the harder things that I struggle with when really thinking about industrial Capitalism is just the...it's like the cost of what it...like what it costs to do to the planet versus what is gotten from that. And it's not even like, oh, you're gonna get something that's like, "We cut down this tree and it's gonna last this family multi-generations," you know, it's like a piece of shit that's gonna rot and fall apart in a decade.  **Eleanor ** 09:12 And that's the whole, you know, that's one of the primary issues with Capitalism is that it treats things that are finite, like trees and clean air and clean water, as if they're infinite. And it treats things that are infinite, like ones and zeros on a computer, as if they're finite. Like, "Oh, we don't have the money." And, I mean, it's like--I can't remember who it was-- maybe it was Alan Watts, who said, "That's kind of like saying, 'You don't have enough inches to build a house.'" Like that doesn't make any sense. Like of course you have more money because you just make it up. It's all a fairy tale. Whereas the things that we can't just make up like a 2000 year old tree or a clean river, you treat as entirely disposable, and that is one of the primary issues with the paradigm of Capitalism and thereby colonialism, which was the battering ram of Capitalism. **Inmn ** 10:08 Yeah. Yeah. I'm wondering if you could tell us a little bit about what are the life cycles or growth cycles or logging cycles like in places that are being [testing words] harvested? Destroyed? Whichever word.  **Eleanor ** 10:34 Yeah, that's that euphemism, right? "Oh, we're just harvesting." No! So, basically, there are several different cycles that can be used. I think one of the shortest ones for redwoods is 45 or 50 years. So if you clear-cut and then you--and redwoods are actually one of the few trees that can sprout, like from a stump. Like it's self...I can't remember what it's called. Self-sprouting or something? And so you have to wait 45 or 50 years. Now, whether they always do that or not, is up for debate, especially depending on what they're hoping to get from the products. But it's 45 or 50 years. Some will say, "Oh, we're gonna leave this plot for 100 years," or whatever. And again, whether that's done or not, is up for debate. And it's also difficult because industrial logging has only been around since like, you know, 120 years or so. So when we talk about the amount of time you really need to grow these forests, it's like we're going back to a time before this was even a conversation because you couldn't possibly tear down the forests that quickly. And so we're in this kind of odd liminal space where people are talking about, "Oh, we're gonna have to let this grow again for 100 years," but 100 years ago this wasn't even a contemplation. And so the cycles are based on, again, like the market forces. LIke, okay, well, at 45 or 50 years these trees will be ready to be harvested and then can be used to do whatever we want with them, you know? Truck them off to the sawmill. And that, again, is it.... Well, I could go off into so many different tangents, but I'll pause. **Inmn ** 12:36 I do.... We love tangents. We love rants. So this wasn't surprising to me, but I've spent like a little bit of time in the coal fields of West Virginia, and it seems like there's this kind of similar thing in logging where there's a strong guidance to preserve the cardboard frame of what things look like from a road or something, you know, so it's like the devastation appears a lot less impactful. I am curious what kind of lengths or strategies logging companies go to--or the State goes to--to make it seem like nothing all that bad is happening? **Eleanor ** 13:25 Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny you brought up West Virginia because my first documentary was actually about West Virginia. And I talked a lot about the coal fields. And I actually did a flight above them because you can't--I mean, to your point--you can't see it from the roads. And you can really only see the vast devastation if you're up in a plane. Or if you have a drone or something like that. So in California, they call it the 'visual impact' or commonly called 'the beauty screen.' And it's this idea that, particularly Inmnorthern California--because Northern California, unlike West Virginia, which is very proud of its coal, Northern California doesn't want you to think it's proud of logging--it wants you to think that it's super proud of the trees, which is really twisted. **Inmn ** 14:21 Yeah. Yeah. **Eleanor ** 14:22 It's like being a serial killer and then being like, "I have a human rights organization." So they will.... Right before you get to a lot of these THPs, that's timber harvest plans, you're driving through, for instance, the Avenue of the Giants, which is part of a redwood forest, Redwood National Forest, and it's gorgeous, right? And you would never think that just a few miles up in the hills there are these vast bald spots. And so they want to ensure that that stays the case, right? So you just keep driving and you keep driving up the one on one and you just see trees and then the Pacific Ocean is over here and you're like, "Oh my god, California is amazing!"  **Inmn ** 15:06 "We love trees!" **Eleanor ** 15:07 Right. But it's being destroyed. And you can't see that. And it's very important that you can't see that because the companies that own this land--because most of it is privately owned logging land--and the companies have this like...one of the guys in the film says, "This eco groovy PR campaign and this facade." And they want you to think that everything is done respectfully and sustainably when, of course, you can't clear-cut sustainably. So they want to make sure that you can't see it because that would fly in the face of their 'eco groovy facade.' And part of that is also that they have a certification, which is called FSC, Forest Stewardship Council certification. Which if you've ever been to a Home Depot or Lowe's, oftentimes FSC wood will be more expensive because the idea is that it's sustainable. And so you get to feel good about yourself, you know, like, "Oh, sweet, this isn't from a clear-cut," but it is. And the Forest Stewardship Council, even if it started with honorable aims, is a complete...it's just a rubber stamp for the logging industry. And there's been a long list of horribleness, including stealing indigenous land, clear-cutting old growth forests, and you know, and yet they have that little FSC stamp. So people think, consumers think, that this is done sustainably. But of course, it's not. And so this is all part of that greenwashing campaign, whether it be the 'beauty screen' or the FSC stamp, it's all part of that push to ensure that the consumer remains in the dark and thinks that, particularly, Northern California is sustainably harvesting their, in quotes, 'harvesting' these trees and ensuring that they will be around forever. **Inmn ** 17:09 Golly, yeah. And I imagine people also...like the consumer on the end of like...they, you know, they go into Home Depot, or they're hiring a contractor to build their crappy deck, I'm sure they're really ecstatic that they have this...are getting this redwood deck. Like, I feel like it's just the name, you know, "Redwood," it sounds so majestic. It sounds so like, "Wow, this is gonna last me a really long time."  Is that kind of like part of it too, do you think?  **Eleanor ** 17:44 Yeah, I think it sounds.... You know, I was in bands for years, and people used to talk about the wood that went into their instruments like, "Oh, it's mahogany neck." and someone's like, "Oh! It's a mahogany neck." **Inmn ** 17:57 It's an electric guitar...like it doesn't matter. **Eleanor ** 18:01 And sure, I mean,as a former audio tech, I can be like, okay, I've heard the difference in acoustic guitars where you're like, "Okay. That. Yes." But it is also pretty.... I mean, mahogany is not endangered in that sense. But still, it's pretty twisted to be like, "Yeah, the best way to use this tree is to turn it into an instrument or a deck or whatever. It's that like, again, in Capitalism, nothing has inherent value in and of itself. Nobody's like, "Oh, wow, an oak tree! That's super cool!" Everyone's like, "Hmm, what can I do with that?" It's like, maybe you could just leave it the fuck alone. I don't know, Maybe that could be a thing? But nothing in Capitalism has inherent value in and of itself. So it always has to be twisted and contorted into something. And that carries with it a certain status, right? Like, oh, if you have this deck made out of redwood or if you have that guitar made out of mahogany, it becomes a status symbol. And so that is also part of like the poisoning that is Capitalism, psychologically, I feel.  **Inmn ** 19:06 Golly, I wish--I know, this is a recurring theme on the show--but if only our lives were more like those of hobbits. I mean, they just have a Party Tree, and that's a community resource. And they're like, "We need a party tree. It needs to be like 3000 years old and that's a party tree." If it's not 3000 years old. It's not a Party Tree. Or, yeah, the forest on the edge of town that everyone's like too afraid to go into. **Eleanor ** 19:40 Yeah, well, and this is actually something that I think is funny, too, that we have so many stories, whether that be through, you know, Lord of the Rings, or like when I was growing up, I partially grew up in Sweden, and there's so many stories still today about the Forest and its power. And I feel like that's also an interesting relationship that we have with the forest is that we are a little bit afraid of it. And that also...that also pushes us into this relationship where, okay, well, I'm gonna conquer my fears, right? As opposed to the stories--and there are these stories even in European cultures--that talk about the beauty of the forest and what the forest gives us. But that's also an interesting dynamic between a lot of Indigenous stories that I've heard where, yes, there might be like some being that lives in the forest that you don't want to interact with. But a lot of it is also about how, "Oh my gosh, look at all of the beauty and the life that we get from the forest," as opposed to, "Woods are terrifying. Don't mess with them at all. Just don't go there." It's like, but that's also going to dictate how you feel about cutting down a bunch of trees. **Inmn ** 21:04 Yeah, it's wild that fear of the forest means we have to destroy the forest. It's a bad mentality. As much as I love a story about the Dark Forest, you know, and wish that that was like a more sustainable option, growing a more deep connection to the forest is probably a more sustainable way to go about things. Did you ever see Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind?  **Eleanor ** 21:33 Yes, I did.   **Inmn ** 21:34 Yeah. Incredible movie about a toxic forest that will fucking kill everyone who comes into it. Because it eventually was like, "No humans. You can't. No, I can't take anymore. Here's poison." **Eleanor ** 21:50 Don't blame it really.  **Inmn ** 21:52 Yeah, and it's like, "No, I need several thousand years to recuperate from the harm that you've done and eventually I'll be a forest you can come in again." **Eleanor ** 22:04 Right. Right. Well, and I think... We talk about that in mutual aid spaces, or in organizing spaces, like, okay, if harm has been caused and there needs to be time to recover then possibly we can get to the point where we can be in community together with that person who did the harm.... It's like, we do that as humans. And it's necessary, right? And that is exactly what ecosystems need too. Like, the idea of--this is also how we fuck it up in terms of the Capitalist mentality--the idea of like, "Oh, we're going to leave that to grow for another 45 years before we cut it down again," that's not allowing a relationship to recuperate, right? That is, once again, treating something in that violent way, like the violence of ownership versus stewardship, right? Like, ownership is a violent relationship--I mean, just look at slavery--but stewardship suggests a respect. And I think there's also space for fear there, too, right? I think that, you know, when I was a kid walking through woods, I would feel a little...maybe a little scared, but I would also feel safe, like, "Oh, I'm safe within the woods." So I think we can carry both of those at once. And I think that sometimes when you have a deep respect for something, there might be a moment where you're like, "Oh, that's, that's creepy." But there's also this feeling of like, "I'm safe here." And I think that, you know, I think that carrying multiple truths at the same time and multiple thoughts is just beneficial. But yeah, I think that the idea of allowing places to recover is super important, while also recognizing that we have a role in that. And that's something that Marnie talks about in--and actually one of the tree sitters as well--talks about in the film is this idea that the relationship we need to have with nature is not removing ourselves from nature. And I always think of...I spoke with somebody who does work in Africa with the Maasai, and she was saying that the Maasai were removed from their ancestral lands in order to create a conservation park. But what happened with the ecosystem when they were removed is the ecosystem started to fall apart, because the Maasai were an integral--and had been for 1000s of years--an integral part of that ecosystem. And so it belies that notion that we are somehow outside of ecosystems. No, we are super reliant on them. And I think that kind of that kind of thinking is also super important to remember that like, you know, Indigenous peoples have used, for instance, wildfires, as a way to steward the land, because they're not the wildfires that we see today. They were wildfires that were able to replenish the soil and the land, get rid of invasives, and things like that. So the idea that humans are a part of these ecosystems, and that we have to learn those ways of being and rid ourselves of the notion that we can somehow be outside of, and other than, the ecosystems. **Inmn ** 25:29 I mean, it's like, it's.... I feel like, it's the same thing with most struggles out in the world is we have the tendency to want to remove ourselves from those things. And it is usually detrimental to those causes for us to think of ourselves as outside of everything--which, you know, obviously, there's struggles that we should send our specific voices around and that we should...like certain people should like not make about themselves--but like, for the most part, we are entrenched in all of in all of the thing. And we have to be an active part of them to fix them. **Eleanor ** 26:13 Totally. And I think that, you know, the idea of like, we should always be a part of these struggles, and not make them about ourselves, right, like the struggle to defend redwoods is not about us. It's just that in our own space, we can have these conversations about what it means for us humans to be in the struggle, just like I think, you know, right now, I've been in conversation with several fellow Jews about what's going on right now and what what we're dealing with as Jews. That is not something that I want to put out into the world like up on, you know, I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because it takes the focus away from Palestine. But within our Jewish community, I think it's an important conversation to have. So it's like...It's that...It's that way of being in the struggle. And then if you--just like I think white people need to have conversations with each other about what it means to...like what does Black Lives Matter really mean? And what does dismantling racism really mean? Don't do that at a Black Lives Matter protest, okay. That is not the time, but in our own space and time. So I think, again, you can hold both of those, and I think it's important to.  **Inmn ** 27:29 Yeah, golly, to go tangent for a second on that, like, I don't know, I read this article yesterday, I think, about this.... It was an interview with this Palestinian man who was talking about being asked about antisemitism and like his response to it was like, Israel is.... Israel as a State. Israel displaced Jews living as Arabs in Palestine. Like, Israel is bad for Jewishness and Jewish people.  **Eleanor ** 28:15 Yes, thank you.  **Inmn ** 28:16 And this is like all part of this, like colonizing myth, and any colonizing myth, is to create these others to create a "side," or whatever. I don't know. **Eleanor ** 28:29 Yeah, that's so true. Israel is the greatest threat to Jews in the world right now, I think. **Inmn ** 28:37 Um, too.... Not that I don't want to talk about this stuff more but to veer back towards the movie, I am curious about the collaboration between different...like attacking the problem from different angles. And in the movie, there's kind of this triple-pronged approach that is presented as there's people on the ground doing stuff in the trees, there's people doing legal work, there's indigenous people doing stewardship, and then there's people coming in to make movies about it. And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about how, like, all of these things interact and like help each other. **Eleanor ** 29:32 Sure. So, it was actually Tom Wheeler, who works at Epic in California, who said that we exist in an ecosystem with each other, which I liked. And he was talking about how--and he works on the legal side--and he was talking about why the tree sitters are important. And I really appreciated that because I think a lot of times we get, you know, the classic saying that like, "When anarchists meet, we meet in a circle. And that's also how I do firing ranges." And unfortunately, like it's true--not just with anarchists, it's just that my anarchist friend happened to say that. I think it's everybody on the left, regardless of what...if you have a title for your preferred angle. But I think it so often is the case that it's like, "No, my tactic is the most important. If you don't want to do my tactic then you're wrong and you're an asshole and you're standing in the way," and it's like, but not everybody can do the thing that you're doing. Like, I can't climb--I mean, I can climb a tree, but I won't, there's like, you know, the floor is lava or some shit--and not a lot of people have the ability to get up into the woods, to take that space and time. And a lot of people don't have the expertise to do legal battles. You know, we need a lot of good lawyers out there. I think the Lakota Law Project taught us that. Look what's happening in Atlanta. Like. you need good lawyers. So I think instead of getting on people's cases, about tactics, I think it's really important that we recognize that whatever your passion is, whatever your expertise or your drive is, there is a place and a need for that in our movements and in whatever struggle. And so I really appreciated that about the folks that I spoke with, is that they all were complementary and understanding of the other people in the struggle and understood that the goal was the same, was to protect these spaces and protect them out of this feeling of love for these spaces. And I think that's the other thing that's really important is that nobody was doing this for the, you know, the Instagram likes or because they thought it...because it paid the most money or because anything like...they were literally like, "Because I love these spaces," either because I have a strong ancestral connection to them or because I've just fallen in love with them from being around them. And so I think that that's the other thing and that this diversity of tactics is necessary when confronting something so vast and so disgusting as colonialism and Capitalism. We have to do whatever we can. And these folks are doing whatever they can. And Pat, one of the tree sitters, actually talks about this too in the film, like, sit wherever you can, do whatever you can in the ecosystem that you know, in the ecosystem that you love. Like, it doesn't have to be in a redwood. Cool if it is, but we don't have to choose the most superlative ecosystem or the most superlative place to do this. All ecosystems are worthy and Inmneed of our collaboration and protection. And again, in whatever ways we can. **Inmn ** 32:57 Yeah, yeah. It's really disheartening to watch spaces kind of rip themselves apart in being upset that everyone is not doing the tactic that they want. And that is something that I've always really appreciated about, especially, forest defense campaigns or like other kinds of extraction industry defenses--I can't think of words right now--is just the recognition that we need a lot of different kinds of people to do this work. And, you know, I feel like maybe part of that is people maybe having gone and done things and then gotten in a lot of legal trouble and being like, "Oh, fuck, we need lawyers," and then like, realizing like, "Oh, lawyers are really cool!" But, yeah, that's something I just really appreciate about those campaigns. Um, yeah, I don't know, maybe this is a funny question. Say I'm some random person--or not random--just I'm a person listening to this podcast who's been like curious about forest defense and doesn't really know where to start or how to get into that. Like, I want to.... I've never done forest defense and I want to go get involved in a forest defense campaign, either one that's near me or one that's, maybe, far away. Do you have any advice for someone like that? **Eleanor ** 34:48 Sure. I mean, I think just start digging into folks who have the knowledge that you're interested in. So like Inmnorthern California, there's the tree sitters union, I think they're on Instagram @thetreesittersunion. There's also, like down around where I am, close to Appalachia, there's Appalachians Against Pipelines. Greenpeace does a lot of like trainings, like climbing trainings and things like that. And those are also spaces where you might be able to meet folks that are like minded. But honestly, like in terms of getting started on a campaign, like.... You know, in the film, again, they just say, just, you know, I" walked up...we walked up and we saw that there was a chainsaw at the bottom of this tree And were like, 'Oh, I guess we'll sit in this tree.'" I think people feel like there has to be this, you know, there has to be the war room where you got all the plans and you got the poster board and you got paper clips and all that. But you don't! Like yes, plan is good so you have water and shit, but it doesn't have to be this really elaborate. campaign to start with. And earlier this year, I was in Germany because I was doing a tour of my film about West Virginia coal in the coal regions of Germany. And I went to this tree village that is absolutely gorgeous. And folks were still living there, even though the campaign had kind of moved on, and I was asking them, like, "Okay, so what's the story here?" And it was the same thing. It was like, "Well, we just didn't want them to cut down this forest." I mean, it really is that simple. Like, I think, again, there is this...there's kind of this mystique to the idea of frontline defense. And, yes, it can build to something where you've got several tree villages or you have, you know, a resistance camp blocking a pipeline that's also like a food forest. Like, sure it can become that. But you don't need to start with that. You just need to start with yourself and some comrades, and this, again, this feeling of love for this place that is threatened. And again, like looking for organizations or like minded folks--and the ones that I mentioned are good places to start--but there are definitely others that I don't know of personally. **Inmn ** 37:14 Yeah. I'm having...I guess having witnessed campaigns in a lot of different places, I'm curious about this. Are there any kind of differences that you noticed between forest defense campaigns here in the United States, or like Turtle Island, versus in Europe, or any kind of like other places that you've been? Either in terms of repression, tactics, or just like how people organize? **Eleanor ** 37:52 So, I'd say in terms of the repression tactics, I mean, people in Europe--I can only speak to, currently, Germany and Sweden--but people were very shocked and disgusted at what happened to Tortuguita and what happened down in Atlanta in terms of facing terrorism charges and Rico charges. But there is also, I mean, in Germany, earlier this year, the cops brutally beat people who were trying to save a small town, Lützerath, from being destroyed for an open coal pit mine. So in terms of the direct pushback, the violence, they're not getting shot, but they are getting the shit beat out of them. And so there's absolutely that understanding that, you know, fascism is on the rise across the globe. And neither Europe nor the United States have to look very far in their history, or their present really,to find ways of emulating the fascist state that they are moving towards. And so, in terms of repression, I think it's mostly like the legal battles that are the main difference between the US and Europe. And I think in terms of organizing, I do see a lot of similarities, basically, because it's the same story. It's people who were like, "Actually, you know what, no, you can't fucking do that. I'm not gonna let you ruin this." And I do find a little bit of the same problems in terms of organizing. Like, for instance, Inmnorthern Sweden--which a lot of people don't know that Sweden, Finland, and Norway have indigenous peoples that were then colonized--so the Sami are the indigenous people of the far-north and their ancestral lands blanket across what is now Norway, Finland, Sweden, and parts of Russia. And that's also where a lot of forests are. And it's up in the Arctic Circle. And there's a lot of still culturally important practices, like reindeer herding, that happen there that are being disrupted by deforestation and mining. You know, like Sweden announced recently that, "Oh, we found lithium in the north." Oh, great!  **Inmn ** 40:24 Oh no. Leave it there! **Eleanor ** 40:26 Yeah, exactly. Don't tell Elon Musk. So, yeah, there's a push to protect these spaces but also this difficulty of like, okay, how do we, as non-indigenous people in Sweden make these inroads. And the Sami are historically very reticent of working with Swedes--I don't blame them--or Norwegians or what have you, because of what's happened in the past. And I noticed that here, too, right. It's difficult sometimes for people who are not indigenous to make those connections in indigenous communities. And so I see a lot of that struggle as well. But at the same time, again, when you are coming at it from this place of, "Well, I too want to protect this out of love. And not because I'm looking for some kind of accolade or whatever," that I think that you can make those connections and you can make that struggle collaborative, as long as you're coming at it from that space. And, so I do see that happening in places outside of the US and I think it's rad. **Inmn ** 41:43 Hell yeah. That's really great. Golly, this is a really weird question, but, you know, my brain's always on a tangent. Are there any forest defense influencers? Is this a thing in the internet and the internet world? I'm imagining the person who's just there for, you know, Instagram likes, or something, and I'm like, is that real? **Eleanor ** 42:10 So like, not like the straight up forest defenders, but there's definitely like the Sierra Club type that are like.... You know, so, again, it's like this kind of gray area--I'm a big fan of recognizing nuance--it's like this nuanced space where the person cares and doesn't want to see it destroyed but also wants to virtue signal to people that they care. And that gets all gummed up in the whole Capitalist shit show. So yeah, it's a gummy area. **Inmn ** 42:48 Yeah, and this is--golly, whatever, I love funny questions--so I'm curious about this from, you know, I've had my own experiences with different with different organizations, but is there any kind of  tension or like problems that you do see between on the ground direct action campaigns versus these larger NGO or like nonprofit structures like the Sierra Club or Greenpeace? Yeah, I don't know. I'm not asking for a shit post about these groups or anything, just some of the nuances or complications that can come up?  **Eleanor ** 43:38 Yeah, I mean, again, Capitalism fucks everything up. There were a couple of organizations that I reached out to when I was in California, and they were first happy to talk to me, but then when they realized that I was there supporting and speaking to tree sitters, who are, by definition, breaking the law, because it's private timber land, did not want to speak to me anymore. And I think that's very clearly--like whether they personally wanted to or not is not the point--but as an organization, I think they realized, "Oh, well, our donors are, I don't know, some rich asshole over here. And if we do that, if we engage with people who are very overtly breaking the law, then that's not good for our bottom line. And we need our bottom line in order to keep protecting the forest.: So in their mind, they were doing that so that they could continue to protect the forest. But of course, this creates that splintering that is so useful for the system. In reality, they should be working with the tree sitters. Like, you have the ability to work together to protect these spaces but because you have to make sure that you get the foundation money or these rich donors or whatever, you can't. And so I absolutely see that and I think that's also a global problem because a lot of this does cost money, you know? Like, rope is not cheap. Just making sure that people have supplies and food and things. Like shit costs money. And it's not like tree sitters get paid. So it is difficult, but I tend to--I shouldn't say...I don't want to be prejudiced ahead of time, but I've I find that I often am--be prejudiced against a big organization that says, "We are protecting the forest." It's like, are you? Or are you doing like forest walks and shit--which is cool--and like picking up trash. But that is not the same thing as standing between a chainsaw and a tree. And that's not to say that like, "I'm more radical than you." It's just a necessary context, I think, for understanding, again, this ecosystem that we're a part of. Like, we need more people to be the ones standing in between the trains on the tree. And I think we need fewer people being the ones, you know, typing up newsletters about this forest walk where you can plant a sapling or some shit, just in terms of what we need. That's what I would say. **Inmn ** 46:25 Yeah. Yeah, It's weird how similar the idea of an NGO or something being getting donors to lead a forest walk.... It's the trap of building an organization that gets too big and has too many dependencies on Capital to sustain itself. It's, yeah, it's.... I don't know. I think about this a lot with different projects that I've been a part of. Like I'm part of this community theater group and I'm like, we can't get too big or it's gonna cause huge problems. We can't be too successful or else it all falls apart. Yeah, I think that would be my biggest thing with some larger NGOs is it's cool if y'all's thing is like bringing in money, that's cool. But it seems like the real problem is an organization like that's inability to accept a diversity of tactics or donors to really look past--and maybe this is a shitpost--but the idea wealthy donors who want the experience of like donating to an environmental nonprofit and want that experience of like bringing their kids on the forest walk, this is the same thing as getting a like, quote, "heirloom redwood forest timber deck that is sustainably 'harvested'" Like it's the same thing. **Eleanor ** 48:15 Yeah, it is very twisted. And of course I think that's the problem is that there's no such thing as money without strings. And so when you have these big donors--and I know this from just other spaces that I've organized, even outside of the environment--okay, well, so-and-so is gonna give this much money, but then they also want us to build the website this way or they want us to make sure that the action looks like this. And it's like, but also these people don't know anything about organizing. So then their ideas are shit and you're like, "Look, the whole entire campaign is falling apart because you want this sign to say something completely stupid," and it happens all the time. And that's why, unfortunately, we as organizers have to have this balance of like, "Okay, we need this much money, but if we just get it from one or two donors, what do they want in return for all of this cash?" And there's always going to be something. They're not just going to be like, "Hey, really happy that we can support you in whatever you're doing," like, that's never the case. So yeah, it sucks. But yeah, until we can just, you know, pay rent in good deeds or something, that's gonna be the problem. **Inmn ** 49:35 Or like shift our cultural mindset beyond like...you know, if I'm a wealthy donor or something, then the important thing is that the people have the money and resources to do the work, not that I get anything in return from it.  I don't know, I feel like--and maybe this is my bias, having not traveled much outside of the States--is that we have this very individualistic mentality around everything, and that that extends to forest and extraction resource defense and like.... I don't know. **Eleanor ** 50:15 It is a.... And one of the people in the film Marni, a member of the Wiyot tribe, talks about this individualistic paradigm that has perpetuated, that we as children of Empire have, because it's been passed down to us. And even those of us who have been radicalized, I like to say that there's no way that you can ever be like 100% AntiCapitalist. Like it's a daily struggle, just like you have to be antiracist everyday and antifacist. Like, there is no like, "Got it! No, I'm done." So she talks about this like this--and you know, to go back to Lord of the Rings-- **Inmn ** 50:18 The real goal podcast, right? It's not. But... **Eleanor ** 50:27 It all has to do with Lord of the Rings. She likens it to Gollum. And if anybody listening has not read Lord of the Rings, first of all, please do so. But secondly, Gollum is not a character that you want to emulate. Like, that is not how you're supposed to read that. Like, oh, Gollum is cool? Like, he is literally driven to mental anguish and dismay and physical like breakdown because he's so obsessed with this one ring. And that is not a good thing, right? It's not something where you're like, "Yeah, Gollum!" and he loses like all his community. Like, he's just by himself. And yet, we have built an entire system on the paradigm of Gollum. Like be by yourself. Fuck community. Care only about the thing that you can own and that can thereby, of course, own you in return. It's so fucked up. And yet, that is like the foundation of Capitalism. And so of course, when we step into a forest...and is one of the lines that I have in my first film about West Virginia is "How can you look at a mountain and think 'mine.'" Which is, of course, a double entendre. Which, I'm a sucker for those. But it's like, that's what we do. We've been programmed into stepping into these beautiful spaces and thinking, "Oh, I wonder how much this would be worth if I destroyed it?" Like, what kind of fucked way is that to look.... And it happens, you know, I have a toddler and people will kind of laugh when I'm like, "We go outside and we hug trees together," and they'll laugh. And I'm like, "So that's kind of weird that you think it's funny in like a derogatory way, because wouldn't it be more fucked up if I had like a toddler axe, or some shit, and I was teaching him how to destroy these things? Like, why do we have this paradigm where it's weird to teach your kids to love nature but totally cool to give a five year old a hunting rifle or something. Like what in the hell? And I'm not saying that you shouldn't hunt. But we hunt for fun. Like we don't hunt because we need food. We hunt because it's fun. **Inmn ** 53:17 Or for the trophy. **Eleanor ** 53:20 Right, for the trophy, which you can say is the same with the redwood deck. It's a trophy. It's something to show off to people. You don't need it. Like you could, you could stack stones and have a deck. Like, you don't need the fucking redwoods. And she also made...Marni makes this point in the film too, like, of course, people have used wood for generations, to use  for firewood, to widdle sculptures, to build things. And she's like, "I totally get that, but you can't do it at this scale. You have to have this relationship with nature so that you only take what you need and make sure that there's enough for the next time," and you see this throughout indigenous cultures. You know, Robin Wall Kimmerer talks about it in "Braiding Sweetgrass," the idea that--and I don't remember if it was her tribe or another one that she's talking about--would go out and get fish, but then they wouldn't get all of the fish. They'd just get the ones that they needed, right? And they would know that there's all these fish 'getting away'--in the white perspective--but they're not 'getting away,' they are surviving so that you can go fishing next time. And so again, it's like this...it's a very short sighted paradigm that is totally individualistic and totally destructive, that doesn't.... And again, like Gollum is totally destroyed but he doesn't see it himself. It's only people on the outside that are like, "Oh, God, that guy's not doing well." And yet again, we don't, we don't see it from the inside. And so I think that's why it's so important to step outside of that programming and just see the logic or the illogic of these situations and allow ourselves to fall in love with nature and question why that sounds corny when we say it out loud. Like, why is it corny to fall in love with a tree or a river or what have you. I mean, like, that is actually really beautiful. And it is necessary if we are to get to the space where we can say, "Defend what you love." Because if you don't love something, you're less likely to defend it, right? Like, you know, of course, that's why parents always defend their children because you have this natural need, like you love your child so much, or your partner, or your friend, or what have you. You're less likely to defend a total stranger. It's just like a human thing, or an animal thing. And so if we don't love these places, these spaces, then we're less likely to be moved to defend them. **Inmn ** 56:01 Yeah. Golly, so don't be like Gollum. Don't hoard ultimate power and destruction. Be like a hobbit and enjoy the 3000 year old party tree because it's a beautiful tree.  **Eleanor ** 56:19 Amen.  **Inmn ** 56:23 Well, this seems like a great place to kind of tie it off, and because we're also almost at time, but do you have any final thoughts or questions that I didn't ask you that you wish I'd asked you? And then after that, anything that you want to plug? **Eleanor ** 56:43 Just, I mean, it was something that I included at the end of the film, my good friend Carla Bergman co-wrote a book "Joyful Militancy," which I also recommend to everyone. **Inmn ** 56:53 Oh, yeah. We had Carla on not too long ago. **Eleanor ** 56:57 I love Carla so much. So one of the things that they talk about in that book, Carla and Nick, is this idea of rigid radicalism and the need to be fluid but not flimsy. And I think that that's something that...that's another practice that I'm trying to get more into, because I think a lot of times when we have a stance or when we have a perspective, we can get stuck in it. And then, we can let it weigh us down. And I think it's really important, no matter what fight we're fighting, to be able to be fluid because it will allow us to confront the next struggle, the next shitstorm, the next fire, or whatever. But if we are too rigid, we will get caught up in the flood or the flames and be carried away. And so I think it's important to stay fluid but not flimsy. And yeah. **Inmn ** 57:59 Sick.  Are there any places that you can be found on the internet where you would like to be found or where your work can be found? I know you plugged stuff at the beginning but we'll throw stuff in the show notes. **Eleanor ** 58:14 All of my work is at artkillingapathy.com That's where my films are, my music, my poetry, and journalism. This specific film To the Trees is at tothetreesfilm.com and I am on Instagram and Twitter @RadicalEleanor. **Inmn ** 58:32 Wonderful. And are you working on anything? Got anything coming up soon that you're working on? **Eleanor ** 58:38 I think I'm going to work on some of the footage that I got in Germany as kind of like an addendum, or a compliment, to my first film about coal regions in West Virginia. I have footage from coal regions in Germany that I think I'm gonna put into something. **Inmn ** 58:58 Great. Well, thanks so much for coming on the show today. **Eleanor ** 59:01 Thanks so much for having me. **Inmn ** 59:08 If you enjoyed this episode, Defend the Party Tree. You can also tell people about the show. You can support the show financially by supporting our publisher, Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness. And you can find us on Patreon at patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. You can also go to tangledwilderness.org and check out some cool books that we have for sale, because we are a publisher. We put out books, we put out zines, we put out podcasts, obviously. And we're working on all kinds of really fun stuff. So, go check it out and get a cool book. We also do this zine of the month club where for like 10 bucks a month, you can get a zine version of our monthly feature mailed to you anywhere in the world. 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