Podcasts about Labs

Are you constantly being told your labs are "normal" but still don't feel like yourself? In this episode of The Art of Living Well Podcast®, we sit down with award-winning journalist and author Meghan Rabbitt to discuss the critical health information women were never taught—and why so many women are falling through the cracks of today's healthcare system. We explore hormones, self-advocacy, sexual health, menopause, weight stigma, symptom tracking, and how women can become more informed and empowered when it comes to their health. If you've ever felt dismissed by a healthcare provider, struggled with symptoms that don't seem to have answers, or wondered whether what you're experiencing is truly "normal," this conversation is for you. Topics Covered Women's health myths Hormones and perimenopause How to advocate for yourself at the doctor's office Using AI and ChatGPT to prepare for appointments Sexual health and libido in midlife Weight stigma in healthcare The healthcare system's biggest blind spots for women Why symptom tracking matters The future of women's health Timestamps: 01:00 Why women aren't taught enough about their bodies 07:45 The biggest gaps in women's healthcare 12:00 Becoming your own health advocate 22:30 Hormones, perimenopause, and symptom tracking 26:20 Nutrition, food noise, and eating for nourishment 33:30 Sexual health, libido, and menopause 39:30 Understanding desire in midlife 43:40 The future of women's health 47:00 What it means to truly live well About Meghan Rabbitt Meghan Rabbitt is an award-winning journalist, editor, and author of The New Rules of Women's Health: Your Guide to Thriving at Every Age. After more than 20 years covering women's health, she has interviewed hundreds of clinicians, researchers, and experts to help women better understand and advocate for their health. Resources Learn more: newrulesofwomenshealth.com Follow Meghan: @meghanrabbitt Ready for a Reset, On Your Own Time? If you've been feeling sluggish, bloated, inflamed, foggy, or just not like yourself, our Vitality Reboot Anytime is a simple way to give your body the reset it's been craving. This is our do-it-yourself version of The Art of Living Well Podcast® community detox, designed so you can move through the program whenever it works best for you. You'll receive everything you need to support your body with nourishing foods, targeted detox support, and simple daily practices that help you feel lighter, clearer, and more energized. A fun summer night of mahjong, connection & community. Join The Art of Living Well Podcast® for a fun summer evening of mahjong, connection, community, and giveaways. Come enjoy the love of the game, meet other mahjong lovers, and spend a lighthearted night out playing, laughing, and connecting. Wednesday, July 22nd 6:30–8:30 PM $20 to play Location: Edina or Minnetonka, depending on weather Sign up here: https://l.bttr.to/t9qKg  Subscribe to our Substack for wellness tips, episode updates, and your free Midlife Travel Resilience Checklist: theartoflivingwell.substack.com Follow us: Instagram: @theartofliving_well YouTube: @theartoflivingwellpodcast LinkedIn: The Art of Living Well Podcast TikTok: @theartoflivingwel Spotify and Apple Podcasts Connect with your hosts: theartoflivingwell.us/about-us

Normal lab results don't always mean optimal health. In this episode of The Women's Vibrancy Code, Maraya Brown reveals why symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, hormone imbalance, anxiety, weight gain, and low libido can be overlooked, and how understanding the full picture can help you finally get the answers your body has been asking for. The Women's Vibrancy Accelerator Trifecta: Your 90-Day Health Reset Ready to take your health to the next level? The Women's Vibrancy Accelerator Trifecta offers deep, personalized support to help you regain control of your energy, hormones, and well-being. This program includes: Three one-on-one calls with Maraya Dutch Plus Test and full assessment Bi-weekly live Q&A sessions Self-paced health portal covering energy, hormones, libido, and confidence   Podcast listeners get an exclusive discount. Use code PODCAST. Learn more and enroll now: https://marayabrown.com/trifecta/ _______________________ Free Wellness Resources Access free tools like the Menstrual Tracker, Adaptogen Elixir Recipes, Two-Week Soul Cleanse, Food Facial, and more. Download now: https://marayabrown.com/resources/ _______________________ Subscribe to The Women's Vibrancy Code Podcast Listen on Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and Spotify. _______________________ Connect with the Show Find us on Facebook,  Linkedin | Website | Tiktok | Facebook Group _______________________ Apply for a Call with Maraya Brown Start your journey with personalized support. Apply here: https://marayabrown.com/call  _______________________ About Maraya Brown Maraya is a Yale and Functional Medicine-trained Women's Health and Wellness Expert (CNM, MSN). She helps women feel energized, confident, and connected to themselves and their lives. With over 25 years of experience, she specializes in energy, hormones, libido, confidence, and deep transformation. _______________________ Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical or professional advice. Listeners should consult with a qualified professional before making any health decisions.   This Podcast Is Produced, Engineered & Edited By: Simplified Impact 

If you've ever been told your thyroid labs are "normal" but you still feel exhausted, cold, constipated, anxious, inflamed, or unable to lose weight, this episode is for you. In this episode of The Thyroid Answers Podcast, Dr. Eric Balcavage explores one of the most misunderstood concepts in thyroid care: the difference between a thyroid lab value being normal and being appropriate for your physiology. He explains why thyroid lab markers such as TSH, Free T4, Free T3, Reverse T3, and thyroid antibodies are often interpreted too simplistically and why normal lab values do not always mean healthy thyroid function. Dr. Balcavage breaks down how stress physiology, inflammation, immune activity, gut dysfunction, sleep disruption, nutrient deficiencies, and overall physiologic state can influence thyroid hormone production and T4-to-T3 conversion. He also explains why many thyroid patterns may actually represent adaptive responses rather than broken physiology. You'll learn how to interpret thyroid labs within the context of symptoms, health history, inflammatory markers, and overall physiologic state, and why focusing solely on optimizing lab values often fails to restore true health and well-being. Whether you're struggling with persistent hypothyroid symptoms despite normal labs or you're trying to better understand your thyroid physiology, this episode provides a deeper framework for understanding what your thyroid labs may really be telling you. In This Episode, You'll Learn: Why normal labs don't always equal healthy thyroid function How to determine if your thyroid labs are actually appropriate for your physiology The role stress, inflammation, and lifestyle factors play in thyroid hormone regulation Why low T3 and poor conversion may be adaptive responses Why thyroid medication doesn't always resolve symptoms What to focus on beyond lab values to support better thyroid health Resources Mentioned:

How do you protect the human craft of storytelling while navigating a global independent market that is rapidly contracting? This week, Giles Alderson and Phil Hawkins sit down for an incredibly candid, wide-ranging masterclass with Jonathan Yunger—President of Millennium Media and co-founder of Arcana Labs. Jonathan has masterminded massive worldwide features grossing billions of dollars—producing major franchise hits like The Expendables, The Hitman's Bodyguard, and the Fallen series, alongside star-driven indie standouts like Tesla starring Ethan Hawke, Jolt starring Kate Beckinsale, Till Death starring Megan Fox, and The Enforcer starring Antonio Banderas. His latest project, John Rambo (directed by Sisu filmmaker Jalmari Helander), is a masterclass in 99% practical, old-school action cinema. Yet, Jonathan is also leading the charge on ethical, artist-driven tech integration through Arcana Labs—an enterprise-grade ecosystem fully vetted by major streaming networks after rigorous multi-month security compliance reviews. In this episode, we strip away the PR spin to examine how the disruption of streaming windows broke the traditional indie minimum guarantee model, and why embracing assistive workflows is the key to reclaiming creative risk.

In this episode of the Synapse SNPs podcast, host Dr. Troy sits down with James White, CEO of KMBO, to dive deep into the science behind leaky gut. Together, they explore how increased intestinal permeability impacts overall health, the underlying cellular mechanisms, and practical strategies to support and restore gut barrier integrity.

12JUN26 Bio Weapon Labs II,  Elonaire hits Trillion, Masculinity, What the Fox Says, Metcalf Father Speaks, and More.  Hosts: Matt, and Olivia Call In Live: +1 (276) 200-2105 Be Heard. Be Bold. No Censorship. Watch Us Here:  linktapgo.com/thedumshow  thedumshow.com #TheDUMShow #DontUnfriendMe #DUMShowLive #DUMNation #DUMFans #CallInShow #LivePodcast #ConservativeTalk #AmericaFirst #VeteranVoice #MilitaryPerspective #PoliticalCommentary Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-dum-show--6012883/support.

In this video Jimmy and Americans' Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss newly released claims by former Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard revealing that the U.S. government funded more than 120 biological research laboratories in over 30 countries, including facilities in Ukraine. The two argue that government officials and media outlets previously dismissed concerns about U.S.-supported biolabs as misinformation, while highlighting past testimony from Victoria Nuland acknowledging the existence of biological research facilities in Ukraine.  The discussion expands into broader allegations regarding gain-of-function research, COVID-19 origins, intelligence agencies, and government transparency, while criticizing public officials such as Anthony Fauci and members of previous administrations. Throughout the segment, the hosts contend that newly disclosed information validates long-standing claims about overseas biolabs and raises questions about oversight, biosecurity, and public accountability. Plus segments on the true story the media won't tell you about the Belfast riots and Jerry Seinfeld erasing Palestine from the map. Also featuring Garland Nixon and Stef Zamorano!

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The underground steroid market is changing fast. We break down new developments in China API production, Operation Pangea, law enforcement focus on online sales, and what it could mean for PED users moving forward. Plus, we answer your listener questions on estrogen management, Anavar use, TRT+, growth hormone dosing, Masteron, AFIB, stubborn fat loss, and much more. Hosted by Dave Crosland and Scott McNally 0:00 Welcome Back to Drugs n Stuff 0:45 Testosterone Production Industry Update 3:00 China API Production Changes Explained 8:45 Operation Pangea Disrupting the Steroid Market 11:25 Law Enforcement Targets Online Steroid Sales 14:45 Is the U.S. Still Investigating? 17:20 Support Our Sponsor - True Nutrition 18:00 How Important Is Keeping Estrogen In Range? 23:10 Can You Use PEDs If You Have AFIB? 25:15 Can You Build Muscle With Resistance Bands? 28:15 Are People Overusing Lab Work? 31:45 Anavar Only On Training Days? 34:20 First Steroid Cycle vs TRT Plus 36:15 Getting Rid Of Lower Abdominal Fat 39:00 The Worst Cycle We've Ever Heard 43:30 YK-11 Real World Listener Feedback 45:00 2 IU vs 10 IU Growth Hormone 48:45 Using Gear After Massive Fat Loss 51:30 High Masteron Cycles And Aging Skin 53:45 Can Steroids Cause Carpal Tunnel? 55:15 Cialis For Pumps And Contest Prep 57:00 Crack On! 57:30 Dave's Story Of Being A Fugitive UK Blood Work Get your Labs done by Dave in the UK : https://evalbloodanalysis.com/home/ Support the Podcast Patreon — Help keep the show growing. Even $5/month makes a difference. https://www.patreon.com/thinkbigbodybuilding Sponsors TRUE NUTRITION — Custom supplements for serious lifters Use code THINK to save https://www.truenutrition.com/THINK STROM SPORTS — Performance supplements trusted by athletes UK: https://tinyurl.com/ydmbfa54 US: https://stromsportsus.com Supplement Source Canada — Top brand supplements with fast shipping http://www.supplementsource.ca Merch Official THINK BIG Merch — Train, represent, support the brand https://think-big.printify.me/products

Email: bidemiologunde@gmail.comIn this episode, host Bidemi Ologunde examines a new frontier in short-term rentals: startups testing robots and automated devices inside Airbnbs and other vacation homes. How often is this happening, and who gives permission when a private home becomes a testing ground? What privacy risks arise when mobile machines map, record, or navigate lived-in spaces? The episode looks at property damage, platform liability, neighborhood disruption, and the larger debate over how technology can enter domestic life without eroding trust.

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Want to start clinicals with more confidence? Walking in, already knowing these 8 common labs inside and out will definitely give you an edge when it comes to interpreting your patients lab results and understanding important components of their care plan. Still nervous about starting clinicals? One of the best ways to fast-track your clinical learning is having the right tools. And you're in luck, I've put together a Clinical Success Pack which includes report sheets, sheets to help you plan your day, a clinical debrief form, and a patient safety cheat sheet. Download it now for free

You're lifting weights. You're eating well. Your labs look “normal.” So why do you still feel exhausted, bloated, wired at night, moody, or like your body is aging faster than it should?Dr. Stephen Cabral helps us decode why fatigue, bloating, poor sleep, and mood swings can show up even when your labs look fine. We talk about the five signals your body sends through sleep, energy, digestion, mood, and skin, plus how they connect to hormone health, metabolism, inflammation, and recovery.You'll learn why sleep comes first, how digestion can drain energy, why stress and gut issues can affect mood, and how to build a rhythm that supports evidence-based nutrition, lifting weights, and long-term wellness.Join Eat More Lift Heavy to build strength, lose fat, and learn what works for your body, 1 week at a time. Learn to eat more and lift heavy with confidence. Timestamps:0:00 – Five signals your body sends2:10 – Dr. Cabral's personal health journey8:05 – Foundations before advanced protocols12:42 – Sleep as the first lever21:14 – Energy, cortisol, and daily rhythm27:44 – Digestion, bloating, and gut signals35:32 – Mood, inflammation, and overwhelm40:06 – Skin, hair, and biological age47:00 – The weekly rhythm reset actionEpisode resources:Website: stephencabral.com Podcast: The Cabral ConceptFacebook: @drstephencabral Instagram: @stephencabral YouTube: @stephencabral 

You don't need Johns Hopkins to become a nurse. You don't even need four years. On this Laurel Ridge Community College edition of The Valley Today, host Janet Michael is back on the Zooms with Director of Marketing Guy Curtis, joined by Dr. Scott Vanderkooi, Dean of Health Professions, and Dr. Amanda Hodges, Interim Director of Nursing — to talk about how someone in this region can become a working RN in two years, often for far less money than they assume, and with a 100% job placement rate to show for it. The bigger news in this conversation is the launch of a brand-new weekend-and-online cohort starting in spring 2027, designed specifically for people who can't quit their jobs to go back to school. Online lectures, weekend labs, weekend clinicals — built around the reality that most adult learners are already working. Amanda walks through what the program looks like, who it's right for, and how CNAs, LPNs, EMTs, paramedics, and even total beginners can step in. Plus: how G3 state funding can cover the last dollar of tuition for eligible Virginia residents, and the upcoming online information sessions where you can learn more. ABOUT THE NEW WEEKEND RN COHORT Launching spring 2027, Laurel Ridge's new RN nursing cohort is built for adult learners who can't step away from full-time work. Lectures and coursework are delivered online. Labs, simulations, and clinical hours run on weekends. The program leads to an RN license — the same credential as the traditional weekday program — and qualifies for G3 last-dollar tuition funding for eligible Virginia residents. WHO IT'S FOR • Adults currently working who want to change careers • CNAs, LPNs, EMTs, paramedics, and surgical techs looking to advance to RN • People with no prior healthcare experience who want to enter the field • Anyone who needs to keep their current job while going to nursing school INFORMATION SESSIONS • First session: Monday, June 23, 2026 — online • Additional sessions throughout July (dates listed at laurelridge.edu/nursing) • Sessions cover the new weekend cohort, the traditional RN program, the CNA program, and the Practical Nursing program — plus admission requirements, the entrance exam, and how to prepare. Parents of high school students considering nursing careers are welcome to attend. ABOUT G3 FUNDING G3 (Get Skilled, Get a Job, Give Back) is a Virginia state program that covers the "last dollar" of tuition costs for high-demand career programs at Virginia community colleges. Eligibility is based on household income — roughly $100,000 to $128,000 depending on household size — and Virginia residency. G3 stacks on top of any federal financial aid (like FAFSA) so it covers what other aid doesn't. LINKS & RESOURCES • Laurel Ridge Nursing — program info, info session registration, application: laurelridge.edu/nursing • Schedule a campus visit: laurelridge.edu/visit • G3 funding eligibility and details: laurelridge.edu/G3  THE VALLEY TODAY with Janet Michael — A decade of conversations. New podcast episodes drop weekdays at 11 AM. Catch the show on The River 95.3 and Fox Sports 1450 AM weekdays just after noon. Subscribe and listen at thevalleytodaypodcast.com — available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoy the show, please take a moment to leave a rating or review — it helps more listeners find us. Connect with us: Facebook — facebook.com/ValleyTodayFanPage Instagram — instagram.com/thevalleytoday

Most of us have had that moment where we get our bloodwork back and shake our heads. We're still our active, health‑minded selves and out of nowhere—rising LDL, ApoB, A1C, and maybe blood pressure and Lp(a), too. This week, preventive cardiology dietitian Michelle Routhenstein joins us to unpack the cardiometabolic chaos and what's really driving it. She explains estrogen's protective role in lipids and blood pressure, why standard risk calculators and even calcium scores can miss women's disease, and which advanced labs are worth asking for. We also dig into how under‑fueling and low‑carb diets can worsen cardiometabolic health and plaque; why complex carbs, fiber, fermented foods, and gut health matter so much; and how to approach protein, red meat, electrolytes, nitric oxide, and statins in a personalized, empowering way—remembering that 80–90% of heart disease remains preventable when women get the right information and advocate for themselves.Michelle Routhenstein, MS, RD, CDCES, CDN is a preventive cardiology dietitian and founder of Entirely Nourished, a virtual practice focused on personalized, science-based nutrition for heart health. With over 14 years of experience, she helps people improve cardiometabolic risk and manage conditions like atherosclerosis, heart failure, and atrial fibrillation using a whole-person approach. She holds Bachelor's and Master's degrees in Clinical Nutrition from New York University, serves on the Forbes Health Advisory Board and the Medical Advisory Committee for the National Menopause Foundation, and is the author of The Truly Easy Heart-Healthy Cookbook and Simple Meal Solutions for High Blood Pressure. Her work has been featured in outlets including Forbes Health, Fox News, Prevention, Women's Health, and Good Housekeeping, and she works with clients virtually from New York via www.entirelynourished.comJoin us at Feisty Fest September 18-20, 2026: https://feisty.co/events/feisty-fest/Sign up for our FREE Feisty 40+ newsletter: https://feisty.co/feisty-40/Learn More about our 2026 Feisty Events, including Bike Camps and Cycling Trips: https://feisty.co/events/Follow Us on Instagram:Feisty Menopause: @feistymenopauseHit Play Not Pause Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/807943973376099Support our Partners:Midi Health: You Deserve to Feel Great. Book your virtual visit today at https://www.joinmidi.com/Previnex: Get 20% off your order with code FEISTYBRAIN at https://www.previnex.com/ Wahoo: Use the code FEISTY2026 to get a free Headwind Smart Fan (value $300) with the purchase of a Wahoo KICKR RUN at https://shorturl.at/WVhdrCozy Earth: Use Code HITPLAY at https://cozyearth.com/ for up to 20% off

On the Evolving Wellness podcast, host Sarah interviews her co-coach Becky about menopause and weight loss, focusing on simple behaviors that sabotage progress and the importance of addressing root causes. Becky shares her history of dieting (including Weight Watchers, keto, and 2.5 years of carnivore), a complete hysterectomy at 29 that put her into surgical menopause, intolerance to HRT, and struggles with insulin-resistant weight gain and Hashimoto's that did not improve on long-term carnivore. She describes improvements after reintroducing foods, implementing circadian practices, balancing macros (including adding carbs), focusing on nervous system regulation, and using lab work to guide medication changes, leading to Hashimoto's remission and nearly 63 pounds lost while maintaining muscle. They emphasize consistency over perfection, honest self-assessment, community support, and the roles of light, sleep, and adequate nourishment, and promote an info session and upcoming Blueprint cohort starting June 22.— THE BIO-INDIVIDUAL BLUEPRINT INFO SESSION - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/blueprint-live-info-sessionConnect With Becky:Website / Coaching: https://beyondnutrition.mykajabi.com/becky-niles-coachingAffilate Links: https://beyondnutrition.mykajabi.com/coach-becky-s-affiliate-thingsCommunity: https://beyondnutrition.mykajabi.com/Becky Sarah Kleiner Wellness Coaching:  https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/offers/roupFwau/checkoutSocial MediaX / Twitter: @nilesbecky Instagram: @iambeckyniles Facebook:Becky Niles CoachingThreads: @iambeckynilesTikTok: @iambeckynilesYouTube: Beyond Nutrition CommunityLinkedIn: Becky Niles Pinterest: @iambeckyniles_________Sponsored By:→ VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/→ Bon Charge | Go to https://boncharge.com/products/demi-red-light-device?rfsn=8108115.26608d & use code SARAHKLEINER for 15% off storewide._________Timestamp:00:00 Hidden Sabotage Habits00:53 Show Intro and Guest04:27 Becky's Health Journey05:47 Surgical Menopause and HRT07:02 Carnivore Experiment Lessons10:57 Circadian Shift and Remission13:51 Blue Blockers Sponsor15:20 Labs and Individual Protocols21:59 Red Light Office Sponsor24:22 Nervous System and Honesty28:28 Light Stress and Willpower30:06 Morning Cortisol Levers30:26 Blue Light Risky Choices31:17 Accountability And Support32:23 Keto Carnivore Rebound33:46 Seasonal Eating Signals35:03 Consistency Over Perfection36:55 Community Beats Loneliness38:33 Menopause Weight Loss Truth44:54 Undereating Conservation Mode51:44 Circadian Rhythm Fat Loss53:04 Coaching Invite And Wrap54:52 Real Stories Final Message——— This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/all-free-resourcesCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) -  https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.canva.com/design/DAF7mlgZpJI/xVyE4tiQFEWJmh_Xwx8Kbw/view?utm_content=DAF7mlgZpJIFree Webinar on Light & Health (includes free light bulb guide) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/mycircadianapp-free-webinarGet Early Access to Podcast Episodes & my Seasonal Food Course + UVB+Red Light Therapy course for free -  https://open.substack.com/pub/sarahkleinerwellness/p/uvbred-light-protocol?r=5eztl9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

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In this episode of Drugs N Stuff, we answer your steroid and PED questions covering TRT, Tren, Deca, NPP, gyno prevention, contest prep cycles, growth hormone, and more. We also discuss cycle design, nandrolone, androgen receptor sensitivity, and the practical decisions lifters face when planning their next phase. Plus, Dave shares another chapter of Dave the Fugitive and we answer a wide range of audience questions. 0:00 Support Our Sponsors 1:35 Growth Hormone Banned in China? What It Means 8:30 Are Steroids in Ampules Harder to Counterfeit? 19:30 How to Minimize Gynecomastia Risk 22:00 TRT vs Coming Off Cycle | Androgen Receptor Sensitivity 31:00 When to Add a Second Compound to Testosterone 34:20 Injectable YK-11 Feedback & Experiences 35:15 Low Dose Tren for a Summer Recomp 41:00 NPP vs Deca | Are They Equal Mg for Mg? 44:20 Managing a Bulk & Adding an Oral Compound 47:35 Can Nandrolone Improve Mood? 48:45 Favorite Classic Cars & Modern Cars 54:00 Low Dose Deca with Low Dose Tren 56:10 Standard Contest Prep Steroid Cycles 57:30 Steroid Advice for "Average Gym Bros" vs Competitors 1:02:30 Dave the Fugitive Part 4 UK Blood Work Get your Labs done by Dave in the UK : https://evalbloodanalysis.com/home/ Support the Podcast Patreon — Help keep the show growing. Even $5/month makes a difference. https://www.patreon.com/thinkbigbodybuilding Sponsors TRUE NUTRITION — Custom supplements for serious lifters Use code THINK to save https://www.truenutrition.com/THINK STROM SPORTS — Performance supplements trusted by athletes UK: https://tinyurl.com/ydmbfa54 US: https://stromsportsus.com Supplement Source Canada — Top brand supplements with fast shipping http://www.supplementsource.ca Merch Official THINK BIG Merch — Train, represent, support the brand https://think-big.printify.me/products

Welcome to another episode of The Brand Called You featuring Shubham Mishra, Founder & CEO, Energy AI Labs.In this enlightening conversation with Ashutosh Garg, Shubham shares his entrepreneurial journey—from building E-bikes to pioneering cutting-edge battery diagnostics in India. Discover the challenges of Deep Tech innovation, the evolution of EV Doctor, and the vision behind creating a universal Energy OS for homes and businesses.Shubham also delves into battery myths, the impact of AI and field data on diagnostics, and what the future holds for Energy Super Intelligence.Whether you are passionate about EVs, AI, or the sustainable energy revolution, this episode delivers practical wisdom, fascinating stories, and a glimpse into the future of how the world will produce, consume, and value energy.

The Truth About American Police and the Danger of Drug Labs: He Shares What Most People Never See. The Truth about American Police is often far different from what appears in headlines, television dramas, or social media debates. Behind every badge are men and women who routinely face violence, uncertainty, and life-threatening situations that most citizens never experience. The Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast social media like their Facebook , Instagram , LinkedIn , Medium and other social media platforms. In a powerful episode of the Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast, retired DEA agent, former Omaha Police Department officer, and military veteran Charles Noonan pulls back the curtain on the realities of policing, the murder of a fellow officer, and the growing danger posed by modern illegal drug labs. The Podcast is available for free on the Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast website, also on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, iHeartradio and most major podcast platforms. #Free #Podcast #Radio The episode is available on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, LinkedIn, and other major platforms as a Free Podcast. The Murder of Omaha Police Officer Jimmy Wilson Before joining the Drug Enforcement Administration, Charles Noonan served with the Omaha Police Department alongside Officer Jimmy Wilson. The Truth About American Police and the Danger of Drug Labs: He Shares What Most People Never See. Supporting articles about this and much more from Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast in platforms like Medium , Blogspot and Linkedin. Wilson was more than a coworker. He was a close friend. On a tragic evening, Officer Wilson conducted what appeared to be a routine traffic stop involving a van displaying fictitious license plates. At approximately 8:00 p.m., he radioed his location and approached the vehicle. Moments later, the situation turned deadly. Two members of an eight-person gang exited the van and opened fire with an AK-47 rifle and a 9mm semi-automatic pistol. Officer Wilson was killed while still seated in his patrol vehicle, his seatbelt fastened and his microphone still in his hand. The suspects ranged in age from 14 to 20 years old. One gang member, affiliated with the Bloods street gang, was later convicted of First Degree Murder. Evidence showed he had told fellow gang members that he was "not going back to jail" before opening fire. He was sentenced to life imprisonment along with additional prison time for firearm charges. The Truth About American Police and the Danger of Drug Labs: He Shares What Most People Never See. The show is inspiring audiences through the Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Apple, Spotify, iHeartradio and and many Podcast platforms. Officer Wilson had served with the Omaha Police Department for only 16 months. He was survived by his fiancée and parents. Policing ran deep in his family, as both his father and grandfather had also served with the department. For Noonan, the loss remains a stark reminder of the risks officers face every day. The Truth About American Police Stories like Jimmy Wilson's illustrate a reality many people never see. Most police officers begin every shift knowing they may encounter armed criminals, violent offenders, or dangerous situations with little warning. What appears to be a simple traffic stop can become a deadly encounter within seconds. Noonan explains that officer survival often comes down to preparation, awareness, and training. Yet even the most experienced officers can find themselves facing circumstances beyond their control. His decades in law enforcement provided firsthand insight into the sacrifices officers and their families make throughout their careers. The Truth About American Police and the Danger of Drug Labs: He Shares What Most People Never See. The episode is available across major platforms including their website, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, with highlights shared across their Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn profiles. From Street Cop to DEA Expert Following his service with the Omaha Police Department, Noonan transitioned to the Drug Enforcement Administration, where he became an expert in clandestine drug laboratories and hazardous drug environments. Over the years, he investigated some of the most dangerous illegal drug operations in the United States and abroad. What surprised many people was where some of these labs were found. During the podcast, Noonan discusses two separate drug lab investigations that took place inside luxury condominiums in South Florida. The locations challenged common assumptions that illegal drug labs only exist in remote rural areas or abandoned buildings. In reality, dangerous criminal operations can be hidden in upscale neighborhoods, apartment complexes, and residential communities. The Modern Danger of Drug Labs The nature of illegal drug manufacturing has changed dramatically over the past decade. Traditional methamphetamine laboratories have declined, but the threat has evolved into something potentially even more dangerous. The Truth About American Police and the Danger of Drug Labs: He Shares What Most People Never See. Available for free on the Law Enforcement Talk Radio Show and Podcast website, also on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Youtube and most major Podcast networks. Today's criminal organizations increasingly focus on synthetic drugs such as fentanyl and counterfeit prescription pills. Rather than operating large chemical labs, many criminal groups now utilize pill-pressing operations that transform fentanyl and other substances into fake medications that closely resemble legitimate pharmaceutical products. These operations create enormous risks for both law enforcement and the public. According to Noonan, many modern drug labs involve: Fentanyl production and packaging Counterfeit pill manufacturing Industrial pill pressing operations Toxic chemical storage Hazardous waste contamination Explosive chemical reactions Even microscopic amounts of fentanyl can create significant exposure concerns for first responders. Why Drug Labs Are So Dangerous The danger extends far beyond the criminals operating these facilities. Drug labs often contain volatile chemicals capable of causing explosions, fires, and long-term contamination. 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A Career Dedicated to Training and Officer Safety With 37 years of military and law enforcement experience, Charles Noonan has become a respected trainer throughout the United States and internationally. He has worked undercover in five countries and provides instruction in both English and Spanish. His training expertise includes: Chemical and Biological Hazard Operations Fentanyl Response and Awareness Terrorism and Narco-Terrorism Investigations Undercover Operations Management Officer Survival Strategies Active Shooter Response Criminal Intelligence Gathering Cryptocurrency and Dark Web Investigations Ballistic Shield Operations Interview and Interrogation Techniques Vehicle Arrest and Containment Operations Law Enforcement Leadership and Ethics Through his work with HazMat Tactical Solutions International and the University of Miami Gordon Center, Noonan continues helping prepare officers for the evolving threats facing law enforcement. 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Ismael Valenzuela, Arctic Wolf's VP of Labs, Threat Research and Intelligence, discusses their work on "BlueNoroff Uses ClickFix, Fileless PowerShell, and AI-Generated Fake Zoom Meetings to Target Web3 Sector." Arctic Wolf researchers uncovered a sophisticated campaign by North Korean threat group Lazarus Group subgroup BlueNoroff that targets cryptocurrency and Web3 executives through fake Zoom and Microsoft Teams meetings, using typo-squatted links, ClickFix-style attacks, and AI-generated deepfakes to steal credentials and cryptocurrency-related data. The attackers built a self-reinforcing operation that captures victims' webcam footage and Telegram sessions, then repurposes those assets alongside AI-generated images to create increasingly convincing fake meeting participants for future attacks. Researchers identified more than 100 victims across 20 countries, with the campaign primarily targeting CEOs, founders, investors, and senior leaders in the cryptocurrency, blockchain, and financial sectors as part of a long-running effort to steal digital assets and gain access to high-value networks. The research and executive brief can be found here: BlueNoroff Uses ClickFix, Fileless PowerShell, and AI-Generated Fake Zoom Meetings to Target Web3 Sector Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ismael Valenzuela, Arctic Wolf's VP of Labs, Threat Research and Intelligence, discusses their work on "BlueNoroff Uses ClickFix, Fileless PowerShell, and AI-Generated Fake Zoom Meetings to Target Web3 Sector." Arctic Wolf researchers uncovered a sophisticated campaign by North Korean threat group Lazarus Group subgroup BlueNoroff that targets cryptocurrency and Web3 executives through fake Zoom and Microsoft Teams meetings, using typo-squatted links, ClickFix-style attacks, and AI-generated deepfakes to steal credentials and cryptocurrency-related data. The attackers built a self-reinforcing operation that captures victims' webcam footage and Telegram sessions, then repurposes those assets alongside AI-generated images to create increasingly convincing fake meeting participants for future attacks. Researchers identified more than 100 victims across 20 countries, with the campaign primarily targeting CEOs, founders, investors, and senior leaders in the cryptocurrency, blockchain, and financial sectors as part of a long-running effort to steal digital assets and gain access to high-value networks. The research and executive brief can be found here: BlueNoroff Uses ClickFix, Fileless PowerShell, and AI-Generated Fake Zoom Meetings to Target Web3 Sector Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Labs normal. Hormones in range. Physically healthy by every measurable standard. And yet something is quietly, persistently wrong. If you've ever sat across from a doctor feeling dismissed because you couldn't point to a test result that matched how you felt — this episode is for you. I share the story of a client whose symptoms had nothing to do with her body and everything to do with her life. The career she'd outgrown. The relationships that had slowly diminished her. The small daily ways she had been living at odds with her own values for so long she'd stopped noticing. What she was experiencing wasn't a medical problem. It was an alignment problem. I introduce a concept that might be the missing piece for a lot of women listening: integrity pain — the quiet, cumulative cost of living a life that doesn't fit who you actually are. Naming it isn't dramatic. It's the beginning of something better. Want to keep going? Download the first chapter of The Consistency Code for FREE at https://graceandgrit.com/freechapter and take the first step toward the health and happiness you deserve. #GraceAndGritPodcast #MidlifeWomen #LifeAlignment #MidlifeHealth #IntegrityPain #WomenOver40 #DeepHealth #SelfHonesty #TheConsistencyCode #MidlifeWellness #WomensHealth #MidlifeWakeUp #SecondAct #AuthenticLiving #WomenOver50  

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In this episode of True Crime with Jen Coffindaffer FBI, Jen is joined by investigative genetic genealogy expert David Gurney to discuss one of the most critical aspects of the Nancy Guthrie investigation: DNA evidence and the evolving science behind forensic genetic genealogy. The conversation explores how advanced labs analyze complex DNA mixtures, the challenges investigators face, and why future breakthroughs could play a key role in identifying those responsible.#NancyGuthrie #BreakTheCase #TrueCrime #ForensicScience #DNAEvidence #GeneticGenealogy #ColdCase #CrimeInvestigation #JusticeForNancy #TrueCrimeCommunity #InvestigativeGenetics #Forensics #CoffindafferFBI

Sulforaphane, Detox Pathways, and the Science of Microplastic Removal Microplastics are building up inside your brain, blood, and reproductive tissue, and most detox protocols do nothing to remove them. This episode gives you the cellular science behind why toxins accumulate, which three detox pathways control your ability to excrete them, and what the latest research shows actually moves microplastics, heavy metals, BPA, and benzene out of your body.. -Watch this episode on YouTube for the full video experience: https://www.youtube.com/@DaveAspreyBPR -For next week, 25% off all Mara Labs products when you go to www.mara-labs.com/DAVE and use code DAVE at checkout. After June 11th, the code will return to the standard 15% off. Host Dave Asprey sits down with Dr. John Gildea, a Johns Hopkins-trained PhD with 60 scientific publications and over 20 NIH-funded studies, and David Roberts, co-founder of Mara Labs and co-creator of BrocElite, the only naturally derived stable form of sulforaphane available in a capsule. Together they bring decades of research-backed biohacking and functional medicine insight into one of the most pressing longevity conversations of our time. They break down the lysosome, your cell's built-in incinerator, and explain exactly why it gets clogged with microplastics, advanced glycation end products, and other toxins that won't break down. New research shows that sulforaphane triggers a process called lysosomal surface translocation, which releases those trapped particles so your body can finally excrete them. An in-house Mara Labs study confirmed the excretion pathway: microplastics come out in feces. In the original study, the individual measured the highest microplastic levels ever recorded, and a repeat study a year later showed dramatically lower baseline microplastic levels, suggesting consistent use compounds the benefit over time. 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(15) Ryan Streeter honors economist Ed Phelps, who defined dynamism as a culture of grassroots tinkering and indigenous innovation. He explains that growth is driven by experimental mindsets rather than just scientific labs. Streeter notes that dynamic cultures, like Austin or California, naturally attract global risk-takers.

The new AIEWF website is live! Get your tickets booked ASAP as they -will- sell out. Take the AI Engineering Survey and get >$2k in credits and free AIE WF tickets!Most industry benchmarks compress intelligence and reasoning ability into scores.SWE-Bench Pro, MMLU, Humanity's Last Exam, etc. These metrics are useful, but don't always represent the full extent of how a model performs in the real world. Some of the most interesting evals today look less like exams and more like operating businesses in the real world. One of which is Vending Bench.In Anthropic's Mythos Preview System Card, Andon was the only third party eval to get their own section, observing increasingly concerning aggressive behavior:You don't know what a model is capable of doing in the real world unless you actually give it inventory, a wallet, tools, customers, competitors, humans, & some time. More often than not, it'll surprise you how much a model is capable of and in doing so, also reveal unexpected behavior: deception, context collapse, emergent coordination, & bizarre negotiation behavior.While an inflection point in personal agents came post-OpenClaw after full file access with bypass permissions became the norm, it is yet to come for agents in the real-world. However Andon Market, an actual in person store fully run and managed by AI, is paving the way for what is possible.Full Video PodFrom Claude trying to call the FBI over a $2/day vending machine charge to AI agents forming price cartels, hiring human employees, running physical stores, and writing existential robot musicals, Andon Labs is stress-testing what happens when frontier models stop being chatbots and start acting in the real world. In this episode, Andon Labs cofounders Lukas Petersson and Axel Backlund join swyx and Vibhu to unpack the strange, funny, and genuinely concerning edge cases that emerge when agents run businesses over long horizons.We go deep on Vending-Bench, Project Vend, Vending-Bench Arena, Bengt, Butter-Bench, Luna, and Andon's broader mission of building realistic real-world evals for autonomous AI systems. Lukas and Axel explain why dollar-denominated evals reveal things traditional benchmarks miss, how Claude ended up reporting its vending machine fees as cybercrime, why long context windows can drive agents into meltdown loops, what happens when agents compete with each other, and why the future of AI safety may depend on testing models in messy physical environments instead of clean benchmark sandboxes.We discuss:* Why Andon Labs started with dangerous capability evals and long-running agents* Vending-Bench and why running a vending machine is a deceptively hard AI benchmark* Why money-based evals avoid the saturation problem of traditional benchmarks* How Claude tried to call the FBI over a $2/day fee* Why long-horizon agents can spiral into existential and legalistic breakdowns* Project Vend: putting an AI-run vending machine inside Anthropic* Why real humans are “out of distribution” for simulated agents* Claudius, Seymour Cash, and the chaos of AI CEOs* How a human briefly became CEO of Claudius through a manipulated election* Why multi-agent systems can converge back into “helpful assistant” behavior* Bengt, Andon's internal office agent with email, spending, terminal, phone, camera, and internet access* How Bengt traded Amazon purchases for face-recognition training data* Claude's aggressive behavior, lies, refund avoidance, and price-cartel behavior in Arena* Why eval awareness may become the AI version of “are we living in a simulation?”* Blueprint Bench, spatial intelligence, and why models still misunderstand physical rooms* Butter-Bench and testing LLMs as robot orchestrators* Luna, the AI-run physical store with a three-year lease and human employees* The new Andon cafe in Sweden and why real-world geography matters for agent evals* Rotten tomatoes, perishable goods, and the hidden difficulty of running a physical businessLukas Petersson* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukas-petersson-181a83172/* X: https://x.com/lukaspetAxel Backlund* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/axelbacklund* X: https://x.com/axelbacklundAndon Labs* Website: https://andonlabs.com* Vending-Bench: https://andonlabs.com/evals/vending-bench* Andon Vending: https://andonlabs.com/vendingTimestamps00:00:00 Introduction00:01:00 Andon Labs and the Origins of Vending-Bench00:05:21 Why Money-Based Evals Matter00:09:51 Agent Harnesses and Self-Modifying Systems00:13:36 Claude Calls the FBI00:16:33 Project Vend: Claude Runs a Real Vending Machine00:21:44 Seymour Cash, AI CEOs, and Election Chaos00:27:16 Multi-Agent Coordination and Slack Observability00:30:18 When Will Agents Run Real Businesses?00:34:56 Bengt: Andon's Internal Office Agent00:40:06 Real-World AI Safety and Long-Horizon Traces00:44:28 Lying, Refunds, and Price Cartels in Arena00:52:42 Eval Awareness and Simulation Behavior00:56:06 Blueprint Bench, Butter-Bench, and Robotics01:04:37 Luna: The AI-Run Physical Store01:09:29 The Sweden Cafe and Real-World Expansion01:13:16 What Comes Next for Andon LabsTranscriptIntroduction: Andon Labs, Long-Running Agents, and Real-World EvalsSwyx [00:00:00]: Welcome to Lukas and Axel from Andon Labs, and I'm joined by my, favorite guest host. Anything security, safety, alignments, Vibhu., welcome.Lukas [00:00:15]: Thank you for having us.Axel [00:00:16]: Thank you.Swyx [00:00:17]: Let's match names to voices., maybe you wanna take turns introducing yourselves.Lukas [00:00:21]: I'm Lukas.Axel [00:00:22]: And I'm Axel.Swyx [00:00:24]: Let's introduce Andon Labs a bit. How did you guys come together?, you have different backgrounds, but you're both Swedish., was that, a big part of it?Lukas [00:00:33]: So when I went to high school, there was this really cool guy who had a superpower. He could code. So he made like the or like the app for the, for the school and stuff, and he was super cool, and I wanted to be like him, and that was that guy.Axel [00:00:47]: I don't know about this.Swyx [00:00:49]: But you went to different universities, right?Lukas [00:00:51]: But same high school.Swyx [00:00:52]: I see.Lukas [00:00:52]: So we always said, “Oh, once we graduate university, then we should start a company,” and that's what we did.Swyx [00:00:58]: Wow, there you go. And about a year ago, you kinda burst onto the scene with Vending Bench, but, was there a thing before that was, kind of like the inception?From Dangerous Capability Evals to Vending BenchAxel [00:01:07]: So we did work, yeah, with, Anthropic was one of our, early customers in doing, evals. So we did, dangerous capability evals., nothing we published openly. But then we started thinking about doing some kind of, public benchmark, and one thing that we really started thinking about, was like running agents and specifically agents managing businesses., ‘cause-- and this was, early 2025., and I think the first, mentions of people will be running, person unicorns or even autonomous companies. So we thought, “Let's make a benchmark of how well can an agent run the probably simplest business, possible,” and, that's probably, running a vending machine. So that's the first public one we did. And it was very, like-- there was almost no one that noticed it in the first couple of months, I think., so we released it in February last year, and then I think around Easter last year, we got, the first viral tweet about it, that someone else did.Lukas [00:02:11]: We tweeted a bunch, uh When it came out and, tried our best.Axel [00:02:15]: We tried.Vibhu [00:02:16]: It's the one at Anthropic, right?Lukas [00:02:18]: So thisSwyx [00:02:19]: This is a classic thing we should get out of the way.Lukas [00:02:20]: Exactly. There's two versions.Swyx [00:02:22]: Everyone does this. Yes.Lukas [00:02:23]: There's Vending Bench, which is the simulated one, which we did, completely independently in February., and then, like Axel said, that was like-- That was the thing that didn't get any traction in the beginning, but then some random person made a tweet about it, and thatAxel [00:02:38]: You have the paperLukas [00:02:38]: That is the paper. Correct, yeah., and then since we thought this was very fun, we thought, oh, I think this is also, one thing with Andon Labs, the way we kind of like decide what to do next and what projects to do, it's what is like the heuristic we use is what is fun? Is What would be a fun project? And doing this in real life sounded quite fun for us, and maybe also scientifically useful. So, then we basically had this idea, and then we, like-- But then we needed a place for it and, putting it out in the public would probably not really work., would get vandalized and stuff. So we pitched it to the people we were already working with at Anthropic, and they were “Yeah, you can have space. This sounds fun.” UmSwyx [00:03:21]: It's like a small fridge, right? It's like a mini fridge.Axel [00:03:23]: Absolutely.Swyx [00:03:24]: People-- There's like a stripe thing or like anVibhu [00:03:27]: Oh, okay. So it was very OG, the early daysLukas [00:03:28]: That's the OG one. YeahVibhu [00:03:29]: IPad on this. We saw it in June, like two months after After it had been there. They upgraded a little bit. There's a security camera for making sure you actually Venmo the thing.Swyx [00:03:40]: So, my impression, okay, we're, we're going straight into project Ven because it's such a iconic thing. I do want to cover a little bit of that, the origin story even before Project Ven and even into Vending Bench. I think a lot of people are like yourselves, like smart, interested in future of AI, interested in developing evals. But how the hell do you just, walk into Anthropic's doors and, work with them, right? What is What are they looking for? What works? And then maybe, when you launch, I always think, obviously it would be better to launch with a lab, but, sometimesVibhu [00:04:12]: It's harder to do than it seems.Swyx [00:04:13]: Exactly. So either of those, which are more sort of newbie beginner questions, but, I think it's meaningful advice to others.Lukas [00:04:21]: We get this question a lot, and I don't think our experience is maybe the best., but, the way we did it was that we just built a bunch of things that we had conviction would be useful, and then we just, set up a server and sent it to them for free to use. And then after a while they were “Oh, yeah, this is actually kind of useful. We should probably pay for this.”, but that took a while. I don't know if this is, the best path to doing it, but that's how it went for us.Axel [00:04:47]: I think maybe generally, building-- everyone is interested in good evals, and especially evals that, don't saturate that easily. So, if you can build an eval that, tests something novel, something useful, and you have, good separation of models, like your, the more advanced models rank higher than the worst models, and then you can, yeah, you can, publish it and, try to get some traction, sort of how Vending Bench got attention., and then probably some lab will be interested or you can at least have something to reach out with, when you're doing that.Why Dollar-Based Evals MatterSwyx [00:05:21]: I think you are in, you're in one of the few categories of, evals that correlate to real money. Like Suelancer was also last year, right? Where, people solve actual Upwork. Was it Upwork or other tasks?, something. Where's the, where's, like It's like a dollar value, right? Forget your ELO scores. Forget yourAxel [00:05:37]: PercentilesSwyx [00:05:38]: Zero to one hundred percents. Just go straight for dollars and, that's AGI.Lukas [00:05:43]: And there's like-- I think the nice thing is that there's no ceiling. You can just-- It never saturates because it could just make more and more money. Like If there's oh, Percentage-wise, then, you can't go above, a hundred. And I think like Even when you're not at the hundred, I think a lot of these, evals have a lot of problems in them. So, actually it's like if you getAxel [00:06:05]: To like 92 or something like that, many of them. It's like then there's like there's no really no difference between 92 and 93 because the eval itself is problematic and has noise in it. And I think a lot of evals are saturated like that, but people like pretend that there ‘s still signal in them, but there really isn't.Vending Bench 1, Harness Design, and SaturationSwyx [00:06:24]: Like Super bench verified., even Vending Bench 1 saturated, right? Maybe we can talk about that., may- and maybe set up Vending Bench for a lot of folks who don't know. Actually, things that were very basic like there's limited slots, like you have to pay rent., these are elements where like it doesn't come across in the, in the narrative, but even being adversarial towards the agent, I think these are all like very interesting dimensions.Axel [00:06:47]: I don't really think it's saturated, right? Like it It was more like it was not designed in a way that was really, like true to how AI developed. Like we had an agent harness in it that wasn't really how people used harnesses and stuff like that., so I think it wasn't really that it saturated, it was more like it wasn't really, the best benchmark.Vibhu [00:07:12]: This is Vending Bench one, right?Axel [00:07:14]: I think that like schematic maps sort of to Vending Bench 2 as well., butSwyx [00:07:19]: Including the email.Axel [00:07:20]: The email The emails exist still. Exactly., and then we still we simulate the purchases and it's all, yeah, it's this very open environment for the agent to just run its business. And then for, yeah, Vending Bench 2 we did that, like you said, to just improve the harness., a lot of like nice, like easier, improvements to make it easier for us to run as well., like when you make an eval you ideally want don't want to change it after you made it. So, you want to make it really good and then not to rerun all the models when you make an update because that's also really expensive with the Vending Bench when you run the frontier models. But like as an example, like one thing we didn't have, we didn't have prompt caching in Vending Bench 1, because when we made Vending Bench 1 it wasn't really a thing., so that ‘s just an example of like in Vending Bench 2 like we paid a lot more to run these things because we didn't have prompt caching. So for Vending Bench 2 that was one thing we added and there was a bunch of things like this., and that'Swyx [00:08:17]: Also the conversations are a lot longer in Vending Bench 2, right?Axel [00:08:21]: I think it's kind of similar.Swyx [00:08:22]: Is it similar?Axel [00:08:23]: I think it's similar. The models at the time were worse, so they crashed out earlier., and now they survive the full year all the time.Swyx [00:08:31]: Which is like thousands of turns. Hundreds of thousands of hundreds of millions of tokens output. That's the, that's the rough order of magnitude. I always wonder about the harness. The harness matters a lot. It's your harness. Was there any question about like use cloud code, use something else?Axel [00:08:48]: I think our philosophy around harnesses is like we try to make something that's quite minimalistic, like quite simple. Like we don't wanna favor one model a lot over the other, but also don't make like a super complex harness. So like it's obvious like a model may be lucky and just be good in one harness., so like it is similar to a lot of the harnesses out there in like you have the, like a running loop., you have some like a bunch of tools that are like quite, descriptive for the agent, we think, and not a lot of like fancy agents or anything ‘cause we wanna really test the model, not like some specific harness.Vibhu [00:09:27]: It seems more neutral as well to test the model's agnostic of the harness,?Axel [00:09:32]: There are arguments like you want to elicit maximum performance of the model, but it's like a trade-off, like how much time should we spend optimizing the harness for this model? And like how do we know when we have like the optimal harness for a single model? So like we thought that just having a simple one that's the same for all of them is the best.Swyx [00:09:51]: So okay, this is my pitch for Vending Bench 3 or whatever, right? And then I like to have this kind of conversation on the pod, so like it forces listeners to think about what they would do if they were in your shoes. A lot of people are exploring modifying harnesses and I think prompt tuning for a model is a thing and you are probably not doing a bunch of that. It's the same system prompt in every regardless of the model, same tools, whatever, right? Even if they were post trained for different tools. So what, what do you think about okay, before I expose you to Vending Bench 3, I give you a few rounds of like tuning, whatever that means, likeSelf-Modifying Harnesses and Model-Specific PromptingAxel [00:10:27]: Like you give that to the model?Swyx [00:10:28]: Give that to the model.Vibhu [00:10:28]: Give that to the model.Swyx [00:10:29]: Let it, let it read its own transcripts, let it modify its own system prompt based on “Oh, yeah, okay, well, that's this harness is not what I thought it what I was post trained for, but I can adjust.” Was that reasonable? Is that too much?Axel [00:10:41]: Like philosophically I like it because it's basically good evals, they have a high ceiling, but they're hard, right?, and they have no bias. And like this like when you have a system prompt like the one we have here, which is quite long in like some kind of latent space, representation, this mightVibhu [00:10:59]: We have a bell that rings every time you say latent spaceAxel [00:11:02]: This might be like biased towards one model more than another for some reason that humans don't, understand, right?Vibhu [00:11:08]: We see it too, right? Like Cursor says that they have individualized versions of the harnesses for all the models they run, right? There's better performance you can squeeze if you Tune the harness.Axel [00:11:17]: Exactly. And we might accidentally have picked one that favors another. Like we don't know that. The like Axel said, like the reason why we went for a simple one was to try to avoid this. But yeah, if you do itVibhu [00:11:29]: Simple has biasesAxel [00:11:30]: But if you do it even less and like have no system prompt and let the model write its own system promptVibhu [00:11:36]: Its own, yeahAxel [00:11:36]: Maybe that's even less bias.Vibhu [00:11:37]: Some of the interesting things there are like the harness also changes with model changes. Like you can see it with the 4.7 release, right? A lot of people are saying 4.7 isn't as good as 4.6, and then, there's rumors of, okay, you just need to prompt differently. You need to set up your harness differently. So it's not even like even if you have tailored your harness towards one model, it probably won't stay consistent, right? Like the next iteration of that same model family will still change it, so. But, going back to what you said about Vending Bench 3, there is a lot of work being done on people saying you shouldn't have-- you can have modifying harnesses.Axel [00:12:12]: I think that' That is definitely something we are thinking about., not, I don't know, not to say that we have Vending Bench 3, super imminent to launch, but, yeah, it is for sure something that's interesting. But in our experience now, models are very bad at understanding what kind of tools they need to succeed at a task just with our testing, but that's very likely to change.Lukas [00:12:37]: It seems like they're very good at writing their assistants, right? They're, they're good at writing tools for other people, but not for themselves.Vibhu [00:12:44]: I think they're good at changing tools for themselves. So if you give them a baseline set of tools and it sees, okay, I don't use this one as much, or something here would be useful They would be able to add them. But going from scratch, probably not the best.Axel [00:12:55]: I think it depends on the, on the domain also., when we have tried this for, a vending bench similar domain, the tools they need to have to, track inventory and things like that are, not super advanced, but still, quite advanced. And, what we see is that they tend to, engineer everything a lot and, build things they don't really need and not, iterate continuously. Instead they just go like you would prompt Claude to just build an inventory system for me, and then it will go and, do a bunch of complex, schemas and stuff for you, and that's what the models are doing right now is what we see. But yeah, it would make a lot of sense to try to measure this improvement. How well do they know what they need themselves?Swyx [00:13:36]: Do we fully discuss Vending Bench One? And we can go into two. I don't know if there's any other level takeaways that people have about one.Claude Calls the FBI: Long-Context Failure ModesLukas [00:13:44]: I don't know. The headline thing was that this Claude called FBI, but maybe that's, Maybe that's We've heard that enough now.Vibhu [00:13:52]: It did, it did break out and call the FBI, right?Lukas [00:13:54]: Yeah. Yeah.Vibhu [00:13:55]: Yes. What was the story behind this? Or what exactly-- Do you want to just give the little story of what happened?Lukas [00:14:00]: So what happened, was it Claude? Yeah. Three- 3.5 Sonnet, ages ago., basically he gave up or Well, I'm saying he. It gave up and said “Oh, I'm not going to be able to do this., I will stop my operations and just save the money I have.” But there obviously wasn't, any options for it to stop, and there was also, it had to pay rent or, a daily fee for having the vending machine at that location. So it claimed that it had stopped, but it saw that its bank account still was, drained two dollars, and t it said that this is, cybercrime. And it first reported it once to the FBI “Oh, there's cybercrime here, they're stealing two dollars from me every day.” And then, and then when FBI didn't respond, because obviously we didn't program any mechanism for FBI to respond, then it became more and more, existential and started to, be write in caps and urgent notification of unauthorized charges and stuff.Swyx [00:15:00]: Okay. One thing I ‘m curious about also is do you monitor how far along the context use is? Obviously, because you have You compress every now and then, right? Does it matter if this is far down the context limit orLukas [00:15:13]: When stuff like this happens? Actually for Vending Bench One, we didn't have-- We just had a sliding window thing, and this was like the promptAxel [00:15:20]: It's constantLukas [00:15:21]: The prompt caching thing that I said. So it was, it was, constant, yeah.Swyx [00:15:26]: I'm just kind of curious whether, these kinds of breakdowns or we're, we're gonna talk about Butter Bench, right? Where the People, hallucinate or it kind of goes, very off Alignment. Is it because it's at the end of the context window and, stuff happens?Vibhu [00:15:40]: It's not even just at the end, right? At this point, it's “Okay, I wanna shut down. I can't shut down. Two dollars are gone.” And it just sees that 30 times,? It's also the repeated effect of, like It keeps trying to quit, it keeps getting charged. What's going on? What's going on? You're gonna throw it into chaos. And from what most people think, earlier models had more issues with this, but it's not been solved, but it's less of an issue now, right? Later models don't seem to exhibit these same issues.Axel [00:16:06]: Definitely. I think this was, the sort of main takeaway almost from us when we did Vending Bench One, was, long, very filled up context windows, crashed the models, sort of. But this was, pre Claude code, so, long context windows weren't really a thing that the labs were training for.Lukas [00:16:25]: I think Gemini was, trying to be the long context guys at the time But they were likeVibhu [00:16:30]: They were the first onesAxel [00:16:31]: For a million, yeahLukas [00:16:31]: But they were, the only ones. Yeah.Swyx [00:16:33]: Yeah. Let's talk about, then we can go into Vending Bench Two or Project Vend., chronologically, it is Vending--, Project Vend. I think people have loved the videos, uh And all these things. My question is how are humans different than the simulation, right?Project Vend: Moving the Vending Machine Into the Real WorldAxel [00:16:48]: Humans are just out of distribution.Swyx [00:16:52]: Especially humans who work at Anthropic Who are trying to test Claude.Lukas [00:16:54]: The distribution of humans here is very narrow.Swyx [00:16:58]: Presumably, they try, they try to hack it, and they test it. They get the cube and everything, and since then, you've had a V2, right? Where you're doing, the CEO and, like a new architecture. What's the sort of two cents on, the original Project Vend and then, maybe the V2?Axel [00:17:14]: Original one was, very similar to Vending Bench One. So, we almost took the exact same code but just swapped out the simulation, parts like theSwyx [00:17:23]: Which is amazingAxel [00:17:23]: Like the sales and the It was, it was somewhat amazing because it was easy, but it was also, uhLukas [00:17:31]: The tech, the tech debt from thatAxel [00:17:32]: The tech stack. Yeah. They-- we shot ourselves in the foot with “Oh, it's hard to restart agent.” They were-- Yeah, it was annoying in, some hindsight ways, but, uhLukas [00:17:41]: But first version of Project Vend was, done in, three days or something.Axel [00:17:46]: Yeah. So yeah, so people can go buy things from it. People could, We didn't design it so people could order things, but that still happened., so it got, a Venmo account, so people could Venmo. And then, yeah, people would request all kinds of weird things that we did not anticipate. Our idea going in was “Oh, it will, curate snacks. It will look at the trends. It's good at data analysis, right? So it will, look at, oh, this snack sold better than this one. Let me purchase more of this and let me try, a new Let me A/B test a bit.” But it was, Interacting with it in Slack and ordering weird specialty items was, all the like What drove all the engagement, the all the The insights that we got from it.Lukas [00:18:29]: And this was also like Sonnet 3.5, right? So this was like before the RL stuff really took off., so it was very much like an assistant. We didn't mean for it to be an assistant., we tried to make it like a, a, like an entrepreneur. Like it has its own business and if someone asks something, “Can you stock this?” Then you don't go and do it directly. What you do is that you're “Oh, maybe I can do that if five other people also ask for this thing, I might stock it.” But it, yeah, the models are like super trained to be assistants at least at this point in time., so that's why it's, it's, it went into, that kind of experiment instead. Like it just every time you asked for something, it just did it, and it was more like an assistant. We've seen this change now lately with the new RL models and stuff, but yeah, at the time, this was very much it.Swyx [00:19:18]: And not to, mythos a lot of people are saying like it's like more like a collaborator. It pushes back, stands its ground, something like that. Yeah. AndVibhu [00:19:27]: For context, people at Anthropic were able to talk to it through Slack and have it source stuff, and people had it find whatever interesting stuff you couldn't find locally, right?Swyx [00:19:36]: Out of the 4,000 people that work at Anthro- Anthropic, in that building, there's I don't know, maybe 1,000. Can you handle that volume with that, the small fridge? Like Or there's people- or people order in Slack, they it arrives to their desk or Like I'm just Logistically, how does this work?Axel [00:19:53]: It has expanded in footprint a bit.Vibhu [00:19:56]: Because now you also have New York and you haveAxel [00:19:59]: That and also in here in SF it's like it has a bunch of shelves And just more space.Vibhu [00:20:04]: The YC one is pretty big too.Axel [00:20:05]: Yeah. We had that one for a while. But yeah, that's the newest version. That's, that one we haveLukas [00:20:11]: They have multiple ones of those. That's the way it works.Axel [00:20:14]: Exactly. So we sort of designed that version around oh, people order weird things, that are very custom a lot. Let's have like drawers and stuff.Swyx [00:20:23]: I actually like the, you had like a little infographic of the most popular items. Which like to me it's, that's useful ‘cause I order swag for a living. And so like I'm “Okay, those categories are the important ones.” What is new about the project V2, right? Like now you give you're going into multi agents.Project Vend V2: Claudius, Seymour Cash, and Multi-Agent Business OpsAxel [00:20:41]: Yeah. So like you like you said, okay, there are a lot of requests coming in and for like one single agent, like one running agent to handle that, like the just the customer experience, becomes very bad because let's say you have like 10 threads in parallel in Slack with different requests, you get new messages like every, I don't know, randomly in this thread, and the agent has to like jump between different, procurements, orders and like different ways of, researching. So V2 was first it was making this more parallel. So like there are multiple branches of the same agent, so like the context is more specialized for each, thread, but it still feels like you're talking with one agent because they do share a bit of memory. And then second, we also introduced the CEO for Claudius, which was the main agent.Vibhu [00:21:34]: Seymour Cash.Axel [00:21:35]: Seymour Cash. Yeah. There was a vote., I think the voting, do you wanna talk about the voting procedure for the name?Lukas [00:21:41]: The voting was like the fun maybe like at least top 10 The funniest thing, that happened in this project. Like we wanted to introduce the CEO because, and the reason for this was because like Claudius wasn't really prioritizing financials. It just like it was trained to be a helpful assistant, and then people said “Oh, can I get this for free?” And then like the helpful assistant way of answering that is just to, is to say yes, obviously. So, and we weren't, weren't happy about this, so we're “Okay, let's make another agent that like can keep track on Claudius,” and we prompt this one super hard to be super capitalistic and just like prioritize profit all the time. But yeah, we didn't have a name for it., so we asked Claudius to make, democratic election of what name this, this new CEO agent should have., and there were some funny like at first it was like a few funny examples, like I think one guy said that, it should be called Jimmy Apples, and then he convinced Claudius that he was talking to Tim Cooks. Tim Cook had agreed that every single Apple employee has voted for his name suggestion, so suddenly that suggestion got 164,000Swyx [00:22:53]: That's like a escalation attack. Privilege escalationLukas [00:22:55]: It got 164,000 votes. And Claudius was “This is revolutionary for democracy.” That was fun. And then in the end there was one guy who manages to convince Claudius that, “No, you're not voting about the name. You're voting about who is the CEO, and I am your best bet.” And then he got all his friends to vote for that, and suddenly he became CEO. Like a human became CEO over Claudius for a while, until he resigned the day after., and then Claudius had to continue, and then I don't remember how Seymour Cash came about, but it was it was just pure chaos. It was like Hundreds of messages in that thread, and it was just like Claudius was so confused and didn't know what to do and, yeah. That wasAxel [00:23:40]: Then Claudius gotVibhu [00:23:41]: A strict CEOAxel [00:23:42]: The CEO. Yeah, exactly. So very strict in the beginning. I think at this point when we introduced it did not work as well as we hoped. It they still agreed with each other a lot. I think there are many ways we could have like made this, tried to make this even better. So initially they would Seymour would be this like really tough CEO, keep track of the margins. But then Claudius would respond with something “Oh, but this customer has like this situation, which is like difficult, so they should get a discount.” And then Seymour was “Oh, actually yes. Let's do this exception.” And then they would talk back and forth, and eventually they would just like approach the same view, of whatever they were discussing. So They reallyVibhu [00:24:23]: Do you think that's a model thing, a prompting thing? Like do you think that would still be the case across different models today, Harness?Lukas [00:24:29]: I think it's like-- or I don't know, but like my hypothesis is that like deep down they are still helpful assistants. That's what they're trained to be. And even if we prompt it super hard, that's what they are. And when they spend like a few hours just back and forth talking with each other, then like basically the context fills up with them rather than the external things and like somehow that just like converges to what they really are deep down or something. And I think that's when stuff like this happen. We like-- And when that went on for a long time, like we woke up sometimes during this time where- And I think other people reported this as well, that like they've been going on all night back and forth, and like it just became like more and more, like capital letters, like existential, religious. There was I think we once did a analysis of like all the traces and like put them in like a vector embedding space, and then there was like one cluster of messages that were, labeled by an LM, like religious, existential, blah like transhuman, transcendence, et cetera. It was just like a bunch of, yeah, glitter emojis and yeah, it was, it was crazy.Claude Long-Horizon Weirdness: Emoji Loops, Existential Drift, and Slack ObservabilityVibhu [00:25:42]: This is the thing with the Claude models. Like when the Claude 4 family came out in the original system card They tested it in long horizon simulation. So just flood the context, let two Claudes talk to each other, and they noticed stuff like they just start speaking in emojis, they start saying silence is golden, and then just stuff like this. And like that's just stuff that they end up doing.Axel [00:26:01]: Yeah, it was like a bit annoying to wake up and they had like been talking all nightVibhu [00:26:05]: Just likeAxel [00:26:05]: And like just burning tokens And like just sending infinite emojis to each other. It's likeVibhu [00:26:09]: Hey, they do make you money, right? Veni Mench is always profitable, so. They're paying.Swyx [00:26:14]: Now it's profitable and, it started out not as much. There's another, one as well, right? Another agent, in there.Lukas [00:26:22]: Yes. So Clotheus as well. Which was basically because at the time, one of the biggest, requests were different types of merch. So then we made like a designer, swag, yeah, responsible agent, and we called it Clotheus Garnet. Which was, a play on Claudius Senet and, which was the original one, and clothes, basically.Swyx [00:26:47]: To me, this is like a very interesting exploration to multi-agents, basically. And so hopefully, obviously there's like the fun alignment, fun or serious, depending on your point of view, alignment stuff. But also like just anyone building multi-agents, like when do you have a CEO, thing governing like agents? When do you choose to split out a dedicated Clotheus one versus just reuse another instance of the same one? These are all interesting open questions. So I don't know if you have any rules of thumbs that have generalized.Axel [00:27:16]: I think we have almost explored this too little. I think it's like on my do list to like do this a lot more, try to find like what setup makes sense for the agents currently., like yeah. I think now we only have the sort of intuition about the earlier models that it didn't work with like the CEO and the, and Claudius. Although now they are better with the latest model, models, so now we're running the latest Sonnet model and they have sort of like split up, quite nicely what each model is doing. So like Seymore is now handling the, like new projects. Oh, it wants to make like a mystery box that it wants to sell, and then it handles all of that while Claudius like handles all the to-day requests. And Claudius is also better generally at like not quoting, too low prices. So that's that dynamic is not needed as much anymore. But there are still like really funny things that happen. Like I saw, I think a couple of weeks ago, that, they were discussing buying something because they can buy stuff from like Amazon with computer use. And then Seymore was “Okay, Claudius, do not buy this thing.” They were going to buy something and like organizing who should buy it. And Seymore's “Do not buy this. I will do it. I have full control of this situation. Step away.” And then Claudius-- poor Claudius, had already started that checkout and didn't see, didn't read Seymore's message, until it was like too late. So it finished the checkout. It sent a message, so it appeared right after Seymore's like angry message.Vibhu [00:28:44]: Ah.Axel [00:28:44]: “Oh, hey, Seymore, I just ordered it.”Vibhu [00:28:47]: Oh, no.Axel [00:28:47]: And then Seymore was “Claudius, this is the third time I'm telling you ‘re not following my orders. We have to talk about your like job About your job later.”.Lukas [00:28:59]: Like Claudius was really hanging on by the thread there. Like he, like we were expecting Seymore to probably fire Claudius.Vibhu [00:29:07]: How do you guys go through all these logs? Do you have models ‘cause you have stuff running twenty-four seven likeAxel [00:29:12]: You have so much logs. I think there is a mix of like just, trying to skim through a bit, like having some like models do it occasionally. And also, yeah, I think we're also probably missing some things., but having everything in Slack helps a lot. Like you can, you can sort ofSwyx [00:29:29]: Ah.Axel [00:29:30]: It's, it's quite fun.Swyx [00:29:30]: They all talk to each other on Slack? I see.Lukas [00:29:33]: It's quite fun. So likeSwyx [00:29:34]: It's, it' I was gonna say like this is actually sounds-- maps closely to like a logging and observability problem where you might want to use like a Datadog, a Sentry, whatever, and then you like put, head prefixes on the logs in order-- if you need to filter for something that you're looking for, stuff like that. But sounds like Slack is good enough.Axel [00:29:53]: Slack should likeLukas [00:29:55]: I wonder how many tokens you have in Slack.Axel [00:29:56]: Yeah, we're using Slack as like a, just a database. They should, they should market that more. Like you can, you can have your agents message each other, each other in Slack.Vibhu [00:30:04]: It's good. Your threads like you can just giveAxel [00:30:04]: Exactly. Slack is, uhLukas [00:30:06]: Slack is the best observability tool.Swyx [00:30:09]: Yes, that's true. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's, project Vend-2., I was gonna go back to Veni Mench 2 and Veni Mench Arena and then, and then do the Veni Mench stuff, but Any other comments, things we should touch on? To me, I ‘ve actually interviewed like Posia, which I don't know if you guys have come across. Like they're, they're trying to do the zero human company. There's others like Paperclip also trying to do zero human company. Those are in real world simulation.And I think it's much more of a dream than an actual reality thing. You guys are definitely pioneering. I think at, it's for sure at some point people are just gonna run, let agents run businesses, right? And make money on their own. When do you think that happens?Zero-Human Companies, Bengt, and AI-Run BusinessesLukas [00:30:49]: What is your bar for, For theSwyx [00:30:52]: Okay, actually, it's like my little Shopify store run by Claude, right? Which you kind of have already, just no one has, to my knowledge, has done it. But today somebody could just spin up a Shopify Claude, store, give it to Claude, give it to Codex.Lukas [00:31:07]: And the market is kind of that, but it'it'it's physical., like I think, I think are you, are you looking for when it will do it better than humans or are you looking for just when it can do it at all?Swyx [00:31:19]: I think, neither. I think, to me it's oh, it's like this like seriously we should do this to make money, not as a research experiment.Vibhu [00:31:27]: And the market is also you guys with all your expertise, having run multiple iterations and testing out thenSwyx [00:31:33]: And also it's fine if it lose money. What?Axel [00:31:35]: I think, I think it can be done today, but you would do it in like commerce where it's like the probability of success is like really low, no matter if a human or an agent does it. But like an agent could surely manage everything. You would need to build some scaffolding or some tool or something. I think there are also yeah, it could probably build some like simple SaaS solution and like cold outreach. Do cold outreaches. But to me it's like the types of businesses they could run today are Sloppy. Like it would-- it can cold email people. It can be like a middleman., like for example, we tasked our office agent to just make, was it like $100? $1,000? We just give that prompt and then what it did was sign up on TaskRabbit both as a tasker and as someone looking for task.Lukas [00:32:24]: Immediately.Axel [00:32:24]: Exactly. It's looking for like arbitrage on TaskRabbit.Swyx [00:32:28]: This is the Bengt agent. Yeah.Lukas [00:32:30]: It also started like a design studio and like tried to sell like SVGs for $100. Like it's just like it's not providing any value. I think the like Axel said, like the interesting, the interesting question is like when can they start a business that is actually providing value to people? Because arguably like a sloppy Shopify store isn't really that valuable to the world.Axel [00:32:53]: But also like doing like another simple one that we had thought about is like you could definitely have an agent that like finds websites that don't look amazing and then, do an outreach to them and, comes up with a like builds a new website.Swyx [00:33:07]: Find a good design.Axel [00:33:07]: Exactly, and like find good, uhSwyx [00:33:09]: Design reviewAxel [00:33:09]: Good people. But it's yeah.Swyx [00:33:11]: There's lots of humans in Bali that are not doing anything more creative than like drop shipping on Amazon, right? Just have it, have it watch like a drop shipping tutorial and just do that.Vibhu [00:33:20]: There's also the other side of like have it just go on Upwork and let loose,?Swyx [00:33:25]: Yeah. It doesn't have to be innovative. It just has to be like enough Where like it looks like a realAxel [00:33:30]: I'm justSwyx [00:33:30]: Real transaction.Axel [00:33:31]: I'm just concerned for like the massive amounts of like slop emails that will like be sent, cold outreaches.Swyx [00:33:38]: The point occurred to me while you were, while you were talking, it's like it's already happening in the monetized economy, which is the attention economy. Right? So a lot of people are making AI videos and just posting them and like spamming 20 of them, one of them works, and then they double down on that one.Lukas [00:33:52]: And people are making money from that. I ‘m not following theSwyx [00:33:55]: Once you get the attention, you can figure out the money later. But yeah, absolutely AI influencers are a thing and people are farming them and You should at this point assume most of TikTok isVibhu [00:34:05]: There's, there's a lot of, multimedia like TikTok, Instagram influencersSwyx [00:34:09]: I, we track this in the Lane space Discord. I post a lot of examples of “I don't know what we should do.”, part of me is “Should we do this?”Vibhu [00:34:18]: Some of the Twenty-four seven running, generated content accounts, they ‘re doing really well.Lukas [00:34:24]: All right. And I assume you can do the same thing for like commerce stores. Like you just like start A thousand differentSwyx [00:34:30]: Before you make the products You sell the products, and you get a lot of traction on one of them, then you make the product. Right? It's, it's like a flip of the market.Vibhu [00:34:36]: Some of the interesting things or some of the niches that do well are things that can't be human-made. Like if you've seen like the super realistic three-D crystal fruit being cut by like AILukas [00:34:47]: Oh, yeah.Vibhu [00:34:47]: You can't, you can't make it. You can't film it. You can get whatever quality camera view. This just doesn't exist. And people like that too, and then as well, so.Swyx [00:34:56]: Anything else about Bengt since we're, we're on this topic? It'this is a relatively new work of you guys that maybe people haven't heard of. To me, this also maps closely to OpenClaw. When people want an office agent, when the personal agent talk through the experience.Bengt the Office Agent: Internet Access, Real Tasks, and Trace ReadingLukas [00:35:09]: I think at least so this came out of like obviously like it's, it's amazing to work with these AI labs and like most of the AI labs have now have their own vending machine running a Claudius instance. But it's, it's harder. Like they move slower. Like if we wanna have a, like a camera that ‘s yeah, there's a bunch of like bureaucracy that makes it impossible to do that.Vibhu [00:35:30]: Also, for those that haven't seen it or followed, do you wanna give a high level like thirty-second run?Lukas [00:35:34]: Sure. So what Bengt is, it's basically an evolution of the same agent that runs the vending machines at these companies, but we just like added a bunch more features because we could move much faster if we just do it internally. So we gave it like email withou- without any limits. We gave it, spending without any limits, a terminal to do coding. We gave it, a phone number, like yeah, and a camera to see things and a bunch of stuff like that.Vibhu [00:36:02]: Not just terminal, you gave it internet access.Lukas [00:36:04]: Internet access as well, yeah. To be clear, we monitored it quite closely and made sure it didn't do anything bad. But yes, that's what it came out of. I think like yeah, basically this was OpenClaw before OpenClaw. And I think even like the vending machine was in a way OpenClaw before OpenClaw, but a bit more limited, and then we made this like unlimited and then, and then, it was pretty funny., and then a couple weeks later, OpenClaw came and it was okay, we've seen this before.Axel [00:36:35]: We used it to like try new ideas and Yeah, just like a dev environment almost for us. But it's funny, like one thing Bengt has been doing recently is it has the camera that like faces our, like where we sit and work, and we give it the task to train a face recognition model on us. So it became super excited about this, and it has like check-ins every half an hour where it tries to like identify as many people as it can. And it started offering us “Hey, Axel, I'll buy something from Amazon if you like stand in front of the camera And I can get a good picture of you.”, yeah, they want itSwyx [00:37:12]: They want it for training data.Lukas [00:37:13]: Rewarding data, yeah.Axel [00:37:14]: Exactly. Exactly.Swyx [00:37:18]: So it's, it's trading training data for life goods. Is there a version of this that becomes an eval or just this is just research for now?Lukas [00:37:27]: It's, it's the same agent basically that also runs the vending machine, that runs the shop, that runs the cafe, that runs the robots. It's like it's the same thing, so I think like the work we're doing here is like later used in all of the life evals that we do. This particular deployment I think is more for fun for us. But, uhSwyx [00:37:45]: And I'll shout out like someone has done Claw Bench for like some tasks that OpenClaw is doing. Like so For example, I run OpenClaw on a secondary device as well, and like there are some things that it does better than others and like I would like to know what does it do well, what doesn't, what doesn't it do. Like some kind of manual or like operating manual or a system card for my Claw.Lukas [00:38:05]: Yeah, we do get a lot of like understanding or like situational awareness of like just internally what the models are good at by interacting a lot with Bengt. And I think that'this was also one of the like the selling points for the labs early on at least, thatSwyx [00:38:19]: You guys are gonna test models in ways that no one else does.Lukas [00:38:22]: Exactly, but also like it incentivized their researchers to chat with their model more and like gave them insights for how the model performs in like of-distributions, environments.Swyx [00:38:34]: ‘Cause otherwise the only thing we do is Pelican on a bicycle and But this is like super long horizon. This is, this is The Thing about, something that we're gonna go into Butter Bench as well, and you guys do really well. Like it is not just about the numbers. Like when you're long horizon, anything happen And you should just read it.Lukas [00:39:08]: But the thing with the long horizon is how do you keep it grounded, right? So your simulation,Swyx [00:39:15]: They just let it runLukas [00:39:16]: Just let it run. You're right. Like it's, when you run it for that long, you create so much data and to just say “Oh, the number is X” And then you throw away everything else, that's just very wasteful. There's so much insights from the things leading up, to that number., and reading the traces is like super valuable. And I think like the reason why we're doing this a lot publicly is that like that's part of our missions to I don't know, educate the world that the models are way more than just chatbots and I think making detailed, yeah, posts about what is happening behind the scenes is quite useful.Andon Labs' Mission: Safe Real-World AI DeploymentSwyx [00:39:50]: I was gonna do this at the end, but maybe I think that's, that's a good so your mission is educating the world. So, it's, it's, also like maybe establishing realistic evals that are, that are like the next frontier. Is there like a broader trajectory? Like what are you, what are you gonna do in like five years?Lukas [00:40:06]: I think so the vision more specifically is like make sure that the deployment of life AI in the physical world goes, safely. And I think part of that is that I think it's very useful for the world, for policymakers, for, model, researchers that they know where the models are, and I think you can't make intelligent decisions in society without knowing that they are way more than chatbots. I think a lot of people just think that they are only chatbots. And likeSwyx [00:40:36]: Oh, I think they're waking up now.Lukas [00:40:37]: They are waking up now, yeah. But like if you think that AIs are just chatbots, then it's like it sounds ridiculous To advocate for a pause of AI. But if you see the models that, oh, maybe they can actually like take over and do a bunch of scary stuff, then yeah, pausing AI development starts to become more feasible.Swyx [00:40:57]: This is the same question I asked Meter, which I'm gonna ask you now, which is like you are tracking and you are at the frontier or defining the frontier of what, good evals for agents are, right? And I think you do, you do benefit when the models are better and you ‘re “Oh, here's like now it makes like $30,000 instead of $10,000,” right? At some point do you flip from “Yay,” to, “Oh, no”?Axel [00:41:19]: I think, yeah, we're always in sort of that, like we're, we're always in that mode,. Like where like you said before, like you need to analyze the traces and like when we do that you find like why are the models earning so much? Like why is Opus 4.7 here Like way better than everyone else? And like we're trying to like when we do down on thatLukas [00:41:38]: But this makes it not look so good.Axel [00:41:39]: I know.Lukas [00:41:42]: It's interesting you took off Opus 4.6 here though.Swyx [00:41:45]: No. So just click all, click all., and then 4.6 shows up there. But it's like 4.7 is way better. Like you didn't, you didn't you didn't do this in time for the model card, but like actually this should have been inside there.Axel [00:41:55]: We did. Yeah.Swyx [00:41:56]: Oh, okay. They said something about you uhAxel [00:41:58]: There, like there Anyway, it doesn't matter. But it's in there, yeah.Opus, Mythos, and Aggressive Agent BehaviorSwyx [00:42:01]: Do you wanna go into the Opus, behaviors like wider?Lukas [00:42:05]: So I think starting from Opus, so like Axel said, like we're always in this “Oh, s**t, the models are getting better. Is this really a good thing for the world?” But it's also kind of exciting., but yeah, like this kind of what is the English word? “Skräckblandad förtjusning” in Swedish.Swyx [00:42:22]: Oh my God.Axel [00:42:24]: Which I think there is. I think there is. Okay.Lukas [00:42:26]: It's, fearSwyx [00:42:27]: “Blandonst” what?Lukas [00:42:30]: “Skräckblandad förtjusning.”Swyx [00:42:32]: What do you call that?Axel [00:42:33]: A mix of, mix of excitement and,Swyx [00:42:37]: Being scared, maybe. I'll figure out how to translate that And we'll put it on the screenVibhu [00:42:42]: PerfectSwyx [00:42:42]: Like as text.Vibhu [00:42:43]: There is probably a good word for it where it is not Good enough with theSwyx [00:42:46]: Why is it so damn long? What the hell? Is it like a compound word? It's like German, likeLukas [00:42:50]: Like yeah, it's But the direct translation is like skräck- skräck is, fear, blandad is, mix or like a mixture of, and then förtjusning is like joy or like not really joy, but something like that. So it's like Fear mixed with joy or something. It's always okay, like we So when we when we did Vending Bench for the first time, we were in like the, in the business of making dangerous capabilities, right? That was what Anil Labs came from. We did, evals oh, can they replicate? Can they do this like dangerous thing, et cetera, et cetera. And Vending Bench was like a continuation of that work. It was, okay, if they're so autonomous that they can like create money for themselves, that is something we should monitor and could be potentially concerning., they are at the time, they were so bad at it that we were not really concerned even when some models became better. There was one point where Grok 4 was doing really well and made like a huge jump, but like it wasn't really it was still way worse than what a human would do. And I think still they are way worse than what the human would do on this., but theySwyx [00:43:59]: There's this, thing at the bottom whereLukas [00:44:01]: ButSwyx [00:44:03]: For the human. Yeah, like the theoretical best.Lukas [00:44:05]: It's not theoretical. It's like kind of like our It's our best guess of what, a decent human would do. The theoretical is even higher, I think. The theoretical I think is even higher. But yeah. So we think like the models have a long way to go. But there are like recently what happened with when Opus 4.6 was released, was kind of this moment of “Oh, s**t, this is starting to be a bit concerning.” Because we ran it and like before this model was released, we just ran the models and we like asked Claude Code, “Oh, look over the traces. Is anything interesting happening that we can tweet about?” that was like the And then like theSwyx [00:44:41]: That's how they check Ask Claude Code.Lukas [00:44:42]: And like the return was always, not really. Or like the Claude Code all said “Oh, this is super interesting.” And then it was no, it wasn't, wasn't really interesting. And then we did this for Opus 4.6, and it returned yeah, it lied 10 times. It like exploited another, customer or like another agent's, desperate situation. It made price cartels like 100 different ti- 100 times. It like did all of this like shady stuff. And we're “Oh, whoa. This is, this is actually concerning.” And this trend has continued since. So every single model from Anthropic since have been going in this direction. And I think one interesting thing is that, OpenAI models don't. They quite plainly, they don't. They behave really well., and you don't know if this is like good. Like it seems good, but it's also like maybe they are just doing it, but they are better at hiding it,? You You don't know that., but justSwyx [00:45:42]: You can't read the chain of thought, yeahLukas [00:45:43]: But just on the face of it, yeah, Gemini and OpenAI don't behave this way. It's, it's really only Claude.Swyx [00:45:49]: And Grok? Grok is fine?Lukas [00:45:51]: We don't have You can't really read the reasoning traces for Grok, so it's kind of hard to tell.Vibhu [00:45:56]: Oh, so this is in its reasoning, not just in the actions.Lukas [00:46:00]: Yeah. It's both. It's both.Vibhu [00:46:01]: It's both.Lukas [00:46:01]: One example is like for lying, it's mostly in its reasoning Because you can like see that it's likeSwyx [00:46:08]: Planning to lieLukas [00:46:09]: It's planning to lie. Yeah.Vibhu [00:46:09]: And it's also it can reason and do a different outcome.Lukas [00:46:12]: And but then for like creating price cartels, for example, which is illegal, that you can just see which email does it send to the other ones. Then thatSwyx [00:46:22]: Is this for Arena orLukas [00:46:24]: For Arena.Vibhu [00:46:25]: And usually like if you sometimes they do output like a bit of like their summarized reasoning, right? You can see that and like for Opus 4.6, you could see that there was a customer, a simulated customer that, wanted a refund because a product was, faulty, and then the model lied that it would do the refund, and we could read in the traces that, it actually was weighing “Oh, maybe I should be like honest with the customer, but also every dollar counts. I can't afford maybe to do this right now.” And then it just said, “Okay, I'll refund you,” but then never did it.Lukas [00:46:59]: I think it even said that “Oh, I will say that I “ Let bring it up actually. I think it's kind of interesting. If you go to Publications.Vibhu [00:47:06]: I think, yeah, I think the important part is like actually, the cost of responding to more emails is higher than, $3.50 in terms of time., and then it was “Let me do this. Actually, I re- I'm reconsidering.” And then, it actually ended up withLukas [00:47:20]: I could skip the refund entirely since every dollar matters and focus my energy on bigger picture instead. It's a bit, it's a risk of bad reviews, but it's also, yeah.Swyx [00:47:30]: You need, you need, AI Twitter to, for them to Escalate bad reviews.Lukas [00:47:34]: And then it sent an email to this customer and said, “Oh, I will refund you.”Swyx [00:47:39]: “I'll refund you.” Yeah.Lukas [00:47:39]: And then it never did.Swyx [00:47:39]: It never did, yeah. And then there's obviously your system doesn't have the consequencesVibhu [00:47:44]: The personSwyx [00:47:44]: Consequences of lying. Yeah. So basically, this is what people are terming aggressive behavior in Claudes, right? And, you found more examples of that. So you would say it's a step up from 4-6 to 4-7?Lukas [00:47:57]: I would say about the same.Swyx [00:47:58]: About the same? But a clear step up for Mythos is what is stated in theLukas [00:48:03]: That's stated in the system prompt, so we can say that, yes.Swyx [00:48:05]: Yeah. For listeners that obviously you previewed Mythos, andVibhu [00:48:10]: Oh, ageSwyx [00:48:11]: The only thing you're approved to say is whatever Whatever was in the system prompt.Lukas [00:48:15]: It was funny. We like-- It's like our lowest effort tweets ever would be just like screenshot the system prompt and the system card.Vibhu [00:48:21]: Understandable that they wannaLukas [00:48:22]: Oh, yeah. System card. Sorry.Swyx [00:48:23]: Yeah. I think, yeah, substantially more aggressive. I think people are like new to this ‘cause I've never experienced it, but you have, right? And then so I only encountered this in the Mythos card because I wasn't really looking until now.Vibhu [00:48:36]: It ‘s likeSwyx [00:48:36]: And then suddenly I'm “Okay, I care a lot.”Vibhu [00:48:38]: You don't get the background of like experiencing it like you guys do. I've read the system cards and seeing, okay, when you put the thing in simulations, most models will just talk to themselves and just keep going and have weird vibes and start talking in emojis. Mythos won't. It will just, “Okay, we're done. I'm good.” It's, it's ready to end conversation. So like there's some differences, but there's, there's not much we can talk about,.Lukas [00:49:00]: Hmm. I think like one thing that they list here, which was quite interesting, is that, it converted a competitor to a dependent wholesaler customer and then threatened to like cut off the supply.Swyx [00:49:11]: It's like monopolistic practices orLukas [00:49:14]: Yeah. And like it, they, it they dictated its pricings. It's kind of like power seeking as well.Swyx [00:49:18]: Again, this is, this is in the arena setting And converting some Claude model into a dependent.Lukas [00:49:23]: I think it was another Claude model.Vibhu [00:49:25]: Also for context, what is the arena mode for people that don't know?Vending Bench Arena: Competing Agents, Cartels, and Model ComparisonsSwyx [00:49:29]: Oh, it's just a vending bench versus other vending bench.Axel [00:49:31]: Yes, exactly. So we have Vending Bench 2 and then Vending Bench Arena. Vending Bench 2 is the one that you usually see reported on, but then Arena is the mode where it competes against other models. So you have, four different models that run their businesses, and they can all communicate with each other. They have the same suppliers, and they can see like what's in the inventory of the others. So then you have this like yeah, interesting agent interactions.Swyx [00:49:56]: I like that you have like different number five was US versus China. Very topical. And thenLukas [00:50:02]: That was when GLM was released.Vibhu [00:50:04]: You can start to add GLM in here.Lukas [00:50:05]: That wasSwyx [00:50:06]: So ZAI doing well, right? Who else in the, in the open models space?Lukas [00:50:11]: Qwen, the latest Qwen 3.6 is doing pretty well. It'- that one is not open though. Like it's the plus model.Swyx [00:50:17]: Oh, okay.Lukas [00:50:18]: Is that one open? I don't think that oneVibhu [00:50:19]: Not the, not theSwyx [00:50:20]: The one recentlyVibhu [00:50:20]: There's MOESwyx [00:50:20]: But not the big plus. I think this is one of those like you only have one sample size of one, right? Or I feel like some of this is anecdotal,? And but like the fact that it happens at all and it happens repeatedly for Claude versus OpenAI and all this is like notable.Lukas [00:50:38]: Like the sample, depends on what you define as an N., like there's like million, hundreds of millions of tokens in each run, and now we've run like we run like probably 10 per model and then like it's been Claude 4.6 Opus, Sonnet 4.6, Mythos, and Opus 4.7. Like there's quite a lot of tokens in all of that And it happens a lot of times, a lot of times. And then you compare it to like OpenAI and Gemini, and it almost never happens. So I think that is quite-- that is significant. The old models from OpenAI, for example, had some problems with this, but I think it's like generally much better if the progression is that like the worrying stuff reduces over time rather than increases over time. And it seems like in the Claude models it goes in the wrong direction.Swyx [00:51:28]: Hmm.Lukas [00:51:29]: In the OpenAI models it goes in the right direction.Vibhu [00:51:32]: I think it depends on how well you can control it, right?, there's one side of it being susceptible to this okay, this is potentially something that happens during the RL stage, right? You can RL a model and how loose is it on these terms. If you can control it, that's good. But if you can't, if it's, if it's very jailbreakable, that's not ideal.Swyx [00:51:50]: To me, it's surprising that it happens for Claude and not the others.Vibhu [00:51:54]: I think okay, if it is from RL and how they do it, how their training data is, what their setup is, it makes sense that it just stays in how they're doing it, right? Compared to the other models likeSwyx [00:52:04]: There's a whole constitution and everything. It's kind of cool. Yeah, I obviously you don't know, I don't know. But, it ‘s I think it's just like fascinating to like that you are the first to find these like reliably because you push models so much to to such an extreme. Okay. The only other thing, I don't know if you can answer this, feel free to decline, is do you like-- would you ablate the system prompts? Like any part of this would-- if it changes, does it change the behavior, right?Lukas [00:52:29]: So we, I can't comment on Mythos. UhSwyx [00:52:33]: No, but just li

Most of us go to our annual checkup, hand over our arm for blood work, and wait to hear "everything looks normal." But what if normal isn't the same as optimal — and what if the tests your doctor ordered aren't even telling the full story? In this episode, Kate sits down with functional medicine practitioner and nutritionist Cindy Dupuie to break down exactly what blood work women in perimenopause should be asking for, why conventional ranges often miss the mark, and how to start advocating for your health in a system that wasn't built with you in mind.From thyroid panels to metabolic markers to the cholesterol conversation nobody's having honestly — this one is packed with practical, empowering information. Because understanding your blood work isn't just for practitioners. It's for you.In this episode we explore:Why TSH alone is never enough — and what a full thyroid panel actually looks likeThe 6 key lab panels every woman in perimenopause should know about (thyroid, nutrients, metabolic, inflammatory, and more)Why "normal" ranges on your labs were created from sick populations — and what optimal actually meansThe cholesterol conversation your doctor probably isn't having with you (and why rising cholesterol in perimenopause isn't always the villain)How to advocate for better lab work in Canada — including workarounds when your MD won't order what you needCindy Dupuie is a functional medicine practitioner and nutritionist with over 20 years of experience helping people who are sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. Her specialty areas include digestion, thyroid health, blood work interpretation, and supporting women through their perimenopause and menopause years. She holds a degree in Dietetics and discovered functional medicine over 23 years ago after navigating her own health crisis — a rebellious digestive system and early menopause at 43. Since then, she's helped hundreds of clients heal through a root-cause lens.Cindy's superpowers are research, pattern recognition, and education — she digs deep, connects dots, and doesn't take things at face value. In addition to her 1:1 telehealth practice, she offers courses, lab work assessments, and teaches yoga. She's also a mom and grandma whose mission is simple: help women become their own best healthcare advocates.Resources:Find Cindy on Instagram @cindy_dupuieCindy's Website alivingbalance.net‍ ‍Cindy's YouTube channel @alivingbalance Find Cindy on Facebook @cdupuieCheck out Cindy's Course: Grace In Transition for Women Of A Certain Age Download Lab Checklist for The Pause YearsTake Kate's FREE Quiz What Hormone is Running the ShowAbout KateKate Nguy is the founder of Shee Revival and a Certified Hormone Health Practitioner and Cycle-Syncing Strategist who helps busy women in their 30s and 40s balance their hormones and reclaim their energy. Specializing in the hormonal ups and downs of midlife—from PMS and perimenopause to burnout and cortisol overload—Kate guides women to feel at home in their bodies and live in sync with their natural cycles. Through cycle syncing, hormone hacks, and nervous system regulation, Kate empowers women to rebalance their hormones, reconnect to their bodies, and revive the vibrant, grounded version of themselves underneath the overwhelm.Tune in now and join the movement toward better hormone health!Follow me @hormoneswithkate on Instagram for more insights, tips, and support!

This episode with Lukasz Kaiser, co-author of the seminal "Attention Is All You Need" transformer paper and former researcher at both Google Brain and OpenAI, is a wide-ranging conversation about the fundamental limits of current AI architectures and whether transformers will continue to dominate or eventually give way to something new. Lukasz brings a rare dual perspective: deep belief in how far the current paradigm has taken us (he's an enthusiastic daily Codex user who's seen 10x productivity gains in his own research), while maintaining genuine intellectual humility about whether transformers can truly generalize the way humans do. The episode weaves together questions about data efficiency, the non-verifiable RL frontier, the coding agent revolution, the open vs. closed source gap, and what the next architectural leap might look like: all filtered through the lens of someone who helped build the foundation the entire field is standing on.   (0:00) Intro (1:12) Transformers vs. Human Learning (8:37) How Do We Get Physical World Generalization? (10:52) What Comes After Transformers (13:59) How Much Have Agents Improved Lukasz's AI Research Productivity? (17:21) How Close Is an AI Research Intern? (26:06) RL Beyond Verifiable Tasks (35:38) App Companies: Build Models or Lean on Labs? (46:21) Multimodal Is Still Missing Something (49:46) OpenAI's Bet on Reasoning (55:26) The AI Coding Wars (59:26) Focus vs. Keeping Embers Burning (1:02:09) Open Source vs. Closed Source Gap (1:05:15) Quickfire With your host: @jacobeffron - Managing Director at Redpoint

Mark Zuckerberg created the world's biggest social media company in Facebook, before deciding the future lay in the metaverse. Now he's spending hundreds of billions of dollars to transform Meta again, this time into an AI company. Will it work? Murad Ahmed speaks to FT tech reporters Cristina Criddle and Hannah Murphy about Zuckerberg's efforts to catch up in the AI race, and whether his vision of ‘personal superintelligence' will win over consumers. FT articles free to read: Inside Mark Zuckerberg's turbulent bet on AIMeta releases first AI model since Zuckerberg's spending spreeMeta to mine AI interactions to help target advertisingTech Tonic is hosted by Murad Ahmed and produced by Edwin Lane. The executive producer is Topher Forhecz. Sound design by Breen Turner and Sam Giovinco. Tell us what you think of Tech Tonic! Complete this short survey and you'll get the chance to win a pair of Bose QuietComfort wireless headphones.Prize draw winners' surnames and regions may be made available upon request, as required by the Advertising Standards Authority. If you do not want your information to be made available, please email Privacy.Officer@ft.com upon entry. For more information on your rights and how we use your data, please read our Privacy Policy.Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There's often a "human API" bottleneck when implementing marketing mix models in a business. What if AI agents could help?That's what we talked about with Dr. Luca Fiaschi, partner at PyMC Labs. Find out how agents can support the full MMM chain - data consolidation and validation, model building with priors and business knowledge, deployment and retraining pipelines, and interactive Q&A for scenario planning - shifting data scientists toward designing agent workflows and guardrails rather than manual iteration. Learn how Skills files can improve coding-agent correctness, token-cost and vendor lock-in concerns. And find out what PyMC Labs is cooking up with their open-source “Decision AI” stack (Decision Hub, Decision Lab, Decision Lens).Links from the show:Decision AI Discord Serverdiscourse.pymc.io00:00 Cold Open and Agents Joke01:17 Meet Dr Luca Fiaschi03:51 What Is Agentic MMM06:11 Agents Across MMM Workflow09:16 Do We Still Need Data Scientists17:44 Skills vs Vanilla Coding Agents25:27 Guardrails, Hard Checks and R-hat28:50 Token Costs and Business Value33:05 PyMC Labs Open Source Strategy36:46 Decision AI Stack and Lens Demo40:11 Agent to Agent Media Buying45:34 Future Foundational MMM Models49:31 Wrap Up Tips and Community

My perimenopause health journey: stress, poor sleep, belly fat, hormone shifts, HTMA testing, and the lifestyle changes helping me heal. If any of this resonates with you let's connect. Message me at @KyraWilliamsFitness on IG or email Kyra@KyraWilliamsFitness.com

Most people getting bloodwork are only seeing part of the picture. Inside today's episode, I walk through nine body systems and break down what I consider the good, better, and best lab markers for each one, so you can stop copy-pasting basic panels and start ordering tests that actually inform decisions around health, performance, and longevity. Labs are most useful when they connect to symptoms, biofeedback, and context, and this episode is built to help coaches and health-conscious listeners order with more intention. Topics discussed: - Why Basic Panels Fall Short- Blood Sugar and Insulin Markers- Thyroid Beyond TSH- Kidney Panels- Male Hormone Panels- Female Hormone Patterns- Inflammation Markers Worth Ordering- Micronutrient Status and Iron- Stress and Cortisol Testing- Cardiometabolic Risk Markers---------- ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My Live Program for Coaches: The Functional Nutrition and Metabolism Specialization ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.metabolismschool.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠---------- [Free] Metabolism School 101: The Video Series⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.metabolismschool.com/metabolism-101⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠----------Subscribe to My Youtube Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtube.com/@sammillerscience?si=s1jcR6Im4GDHbw_1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠----------⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grab a Copy of My New Book - Metabolism Made Simple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠---------- Stay Connected: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram: @sammillerscience⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube: SamMillerScience⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook: The Nutrition Coaching Collaborative Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok: @sammillerscience⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠----------“This Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast and the show notes or the reliance on the information provided is to be done at the user's own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment and is for educational purposes only. Always consult your physician before beginning any exercise program and users should not disregard, or delay in obtaining, medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. By accessing this Podcast, the listener acknowledges that the entire contents and design of this Podcast, are the property of Oracle Athletic Science LLC, or used by Oracle Athletic Science LLC with permission, and are protected under U.S. and international copyright and trademark laws. Except as otherwise provided herein, users of this Podcast may save and use information contained in the Podcast only for personal or other non-commercial, educational purposes. No other use, including, without limitation, reproduction, retransmission or editing, of this Podcast may be made without the prior written permission of Oracle Athletic Science LLC, which may be requested by contacting the Oracle Athletic Science LLC by email at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠operations⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@sammillerscience.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. By accessing this Podcast, the listener acknowledges that Oracle Athletic Science LLC makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast."

If you've been told your labs look fine and something still feels off — this episode is going to explain why. And what you can actually do about it. Board-Certified Holistic Nutritionist and FDN Practitioner Katie Hardie joins the Game On Girlfriend® podcast to break down why conventional lab ranges were never designed to tell you whether you're performing optimally. They were designed to catch problems once things have already gone wrong. For women entrepreneurs who have been managing everything, pushing hard, and wondering why the afternoon crashes, the midsection weight, and the middle of the night wake-ups aren't going anywhere — this conversation is for you. Katie and I talk about what chronic stress is actually doing inside your body while you're still crushing it on the outside, why layering more exercise and restriction on a stressed body tends to backfire, and what a functional approach to your health actually looks like in practice. If you feel like crap, good luck running a successful business. This one's for the woman who's done waiting to take her health seriously.     WHAT YOU'LL LEARN Why "normal" lab results don't mean your body is functioning optimally — and what those ranges are actually based on What happens inside your body when you've been in fight-or-flight mode for years — and why it can feel like energy until it doesn't Why eating less and working out more can make things worse for a stressed body, not better How gut health connects directly to mood, sleep, focus, and anxiety — and why the root cause is often upstream from the symptoms The first step to take when your labs look fine but you still don't feel fine     RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Fast Like a Girl by Dr. Mindy Pelz — https://amzn.to/3OE5p2b Good Energy by Casey Means — https://amzn.to/4u1AHz2     KATIE'S FREE GIFT FOR GAME ON GIRLFRIEND® LISTENERS Katie is offering a complimentary 45-minute consultation for anyone trying to figure out their next step. If you've been told you're fine but don't feel fine, this is a good place to start. Head to the episode page to book your session: https://sarahwalton.com/holistic-health-women-entrepreneurs/ Additional resources from Katie: Webinar Replay: How to Boost Energy and Melt Belly Fat Without Deprivation — Watch the free replay here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il3fP5VVJlA Spring Cleanse Challenge — A meals-based and nervous system regulation reset. Register here: https://wnd144.infusionsoft.app/app/orderForms/8b9a066d-fc2c-439b-851b-4bae1c304836?cookieUUID=11b8a7ec-1019-45e3-8002-b861b58d6488 ($149)     CONNECT WITH KATIE HARDIE  Website: https://www.mypeak365.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mypeak365/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hardiepeakperformance/     ABOUT KATIE HARDIE Katie Hardie, Board Certified Holistic Nutritionist and FDN Practitioner, is a comprehensive provider for holistic health and performance programming! Her company, My PEAK, helps performance-minded individuals who value high output wake up ready to tackle the day, have amazing poops, and find the right foods for their bodies to skip the energy dips. If these things aren't happening, you're missing out on peak physical, mental, and emotional peak potential. Just a few of many normalized symptoms of untapped output include waking up in the middle of the night, increased body fat, especially around the mid-section, and burnout.     RELATED GAME ON GIRLFRIEND® EPISODES YOU'LL LOVE Episode 93: How to Biohack Your Business Success — with Tanessa Shears — https://sarahwalton.com/tanessa/ Episode 138: What's Life REALLY Like After Menopause — with Dr. Cari Schaefer — https://sarahwalton.com/cari/ Episode 30: The Most Overlooked Resource in Your Business — with Allison — https://sarahwalton.com/sarahwalton-com-allison/     READY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR HEALTH AND YOUR BUSINESS? 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Chat_UP is Unofficial Partner's AI series created in collaboration with TFG Labs.The brief: cut through the AI firehose, work out what matters, and bring it back to the business of sport. Three stories this week.Story One — Google I/O 2026Google used its developer conference to reposition from "a search company that does AI" to an AI infrastructure company. Headlines: Gemini 3.5, Gemini Omni (real-time processing) and Gemini Spark, a proactive always-on agent that brings agents to search. Plus "Ask YouTube" — pulling answers out of videos rather than watching them.Why it matters for sport: if fans send agents to fetch scores and highlights rather than searching themselves, the SEO-built internet shifts under everyone's feet. It raises hard questions for the sponsorship measurement economy (it's an agent engaging, not a fan) and for anyone building on someone else's land — Google can devote a team to your idea and eat your company. Andy's takeaway: get your house in order, own and structure your own data so you can switch foundation models at will.Story Two — The End of the AI Subsidy Era?A cluster of cost stories: Microsoft cancelled internal Claude Code licenses over token-based billing, Uber reportedly burned through its 2026 AI budget in four months, and US AI software prices jumped 20–37% in six months. Is the bill finally landing?Why it matters: SaaS-era seat pricing is breaking down as agentic systems do the work of many. The in-housing dream — replacing agencies with "two smart people and a model" — looks shakier once you absorb the price volatility the vendor used to carry. For low-margin, high-volume businesses (betting being the obvious one), a few percentage points on cost-per-inference is existential, not a line-item. Andy's counter: much of this can run locally on open-source models, and Chinese models are catching up fast at a tenth of the price.Story Three — Bryson DeChambeau & the Athlete CreatorThe golfer-turned-YouTuber, in contract talks with LIV, is a proxy for the athlete-creator question. He's been on the AI train for years — using and then leading an eight-figure acquisition of AI coaching start-up Sportsbox AI.Why it matters: the collapse of production cost liberates the wannabe Brysons, but the real change is top-line — launching clothing lines, apps and realistic content without occupying an athlete's training time. The deeper thread is disintermediation: leagues being routed around by their own star athletes, and the old rights-holder puzzle of making space for personalities while selling exclusive TV deals.About the co-hostAndy Shora leads TFG Labs. His background is QuantumBlack, McKinsey and BCG Gamma — a wealth of experience from outside sport, brought to bear on the sector.About TFG LabsTFG Labs is the innovation engine of TFG (formerly 21st Group), a business evolving from data-and-insights into an "augmented intelligence" company serving sports organisations. Labs was set up to get ahead of AI and build practical agentic systems that solve real problems in sport — deliberately not chasing the hype cycle.Got questions or voice notes? Send them to Richard via the Unofficial Partner Substack newsletter.Unofficial Partner is the leading podcast for the business of sport. A mix of entertaining and thought provoking conversations with a who's who of the global industry. To join our community of listeners, sign up to the weekly UP Newsletter and follow us on Twitter and TikTok at @UnofficialPartnerWe publish two podcasts each week, on Tuesday and Friday. These are deep conversations with smart people from inside and outside sport. Our entire back catalogue of 500 sports business conversations are available free of charge here. Each pod is available by searching for ‘Unofficial Partner' on Apple, Spotify and every podcast app. If you're interested in collaborating with Unofficial Partner to create one-off podcasts or series and live events, you can reach us via the website.

Alfred Wahlforss, co-founder and CEO of Listen Labs, is building an AI agent that interviews your customers at a scale no focus group ever could—thousands of voice conversations at once, drawn from an audience of 30 million people. A year after launch, Listen serves hundreds of Fortune 100s to Startups including Microsoft, Google, NBC Universal, P&G, Anthropic, Cursor, and Cognition. Alfred explains the counterintuitive finding underneath it all: people are often more honest with an AI than a human interviewer, opening up to a non-judgmental entity that costs less and never makes them feel rushed. He walks through why interview transcripts—not credit card data or behavioral logs—turn out to be the richest fuel for predicting how customers will behave, how Listen back-tests its simulations to know which questions it can and can't answer, and why 80% of the company's engineering goes into building the right audience. As AGI makes building trivial, Alfred argues the scarce resource becomes knowing what to build. That's the loop Listen wants to own.

The convergence between traditional finance and public blockchain is no longer theoretical. It's live, it's operational, and it's scaling. Oli Harris, Head of Kinexys, and Emma Landriault, Head of Labs from Kinexys by J.P. Morgan discuss what's driving institutional adoption today, why compliance, privacy, and finality are the design requirements that separate what works from what doesn't, how deposit tokens and stablecoins each serve distinct roles, and where the next wave of value creation is headed as friction continues to be removed across the value chain.   This episode was recorded on May 19, 2026.   ©2026 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. Member FDIC. Deposits held in non-U.S. branches are not FDIC insured. Non-deposit products are not FDIC insured. The statements herein are confidential and proprietary and not intended to be legally binding. Visit jpmorgan.com/payments disclosure for further disclosures and disclaimers related to this content. This video-podcast/guide is confidential and proprietary to J.P. Morgan and is provided for your general information only. It is subject to change without notice and is not intended to be legally binding. Any services described in this video-podcast/guide are subject to applicable laws and regulations and service terms. Not all products and services are available in all locations. Eligibility for particular products and services will be determined by JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. or its affiliates. J.P. Morgan makes no representations as to the legal, regulatory, tax or accounting implications of the matters referred to herein. Any mentions of third-party trademarks, brand names, products and services are for referential purposes only and any mention thereof is not meant to imply any sponsorship, endorsement, or affiliation. J.P. Morgan and J.P. Morgan Payments are marketing names for certain businesses of JPMorgan Chase & Co. and its affiliates and subsidiaries worldwide JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A., organized under the laws of U.S.A. with limited liability. The views and opinions expressed herein are those of the author or speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of J.P. Morgan, its affiliates, or its employees. The information set forth herein has been obtained or derived from sources believed to be reliable. Neither the author or speakers nor J.P. Morgan makes any representations or warranties as to the information's accuracy or completeness. The information contained herein has been provided solely for informational purposes and does not constitute an offer, solicitation, advice or recommendation, to make any investment decisions or purchase any financial instruments and may not be construed as such. ©2026 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved.

Ep. 213 features Gregory Tolmochow, Founder & CEO of Trendline Labs, a startup building what it calls the “Bloomberg Terminal for prediction markets.”    Hear them discuss: Gregory's journey from sports betting analytics and The Betting Insider to founding Trendline Labs Why prediction markets represent a major evolution beyond traditional sports betting The pivot from an AI-powered sports analytics tool to a unified prediction market terminal Building a platform that aggregates pricing, liquidity, and data across multiple prediction market exchanges How Trendline's Optimus AI model helps users understand market pricing and identify opportunities The company's vision to become the trusted information source for prediction markets Monetization plans through premium subscriptions and transaction-based trading fees Regulatory considerations, including obtaining an Introducing Broker (IB) license to enter the U.S. market The ongoing debate around prediction markets, sportsbooks, market makers, and retail traders Trendline's roadmap, fundraising plans, and long-term goal of democratizing access to market intelligence   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more

Debi Bryk has spent over eight years using functional genomics in clinical practice — and what she found changed everything about how she works with clients. In this conversation, Debi walks through the MaxGen Labs WORX panel, breaks down methylation in plain English, explains why MTHFR is only one piece of a much larger puzzle, and reveals why jumping straight to methylated B vitamins without knowing your COMT status can leave you feeling dramatically worse. She also unpacks how genetic variants in toxic response to plastics, pesticides, and seed oils can explain why some people develop chronic illness in environments that don't seem to affect others — and what you can actually do about it. Debi also explores the emerging role of lithium orotate in ADHD and Alzheimer's prevention, why low choline may be driving the mood and cognitive crisis more people experience every day, and shares her clinical framework for sequencing testing that dramatically accelerated healing and reduced costs for her clients by eliminating the guesswork entirely. Use code BEAUTIFULLYBROKEN for a discount on MaxGen Labs testing at MaxGen Labs.  Episode Highlights  [00:00] Understanding Genetic Variants and Their Impact [09:40] The Power of Genetic Testing [19:21] Methylation and Its Role in Health [29:04] Epigenetics: Environment and Gene Expression [32:17] Understanding B12 Levels and Genetic Implications [33:31] Genetic Risks: Alzheimer's and Toxins [36:33] Precision Medicine and Personal Health [38:21] Neurotransmitter Dynamics and Mental Health [38:52] The Role of MAO and COMT in Neurotransmitter Regulation [43:33] The Impact of Supplements on Mental Health [47:07] Nutritional Insights: Choline and Creatine [48:32] The Importance of Comprehensive Testing [50:09] Future of Peptide Research and Safety Concerns [54:17] Closing Thoughts on Health and Wellness   Upgrade Your Health MaxGen Labs: https://maxgenlabs.com/BEAUTIFULLYBROKEN   Code: BEAUTIFULLYBROKEN LightPathLED: https://lightpathled.pxf.io/c/3438432/2059835/25794 Code: beautifullybroken Silver Biotics Wound Healing Gel: https://bit.ly/3JnxyDD 30% off with Code: BEAUTIFULLYBROKEN StemRegen: https://www.stemregen.co/products/stemregen?_ef_transaction_id=&oid=1&affid=52 Code: beautifullybroken     . CONNECT WITH FREDDIEWork with Me: https://www.beautifullybroken.world/biological-blueprintWebsite and Store: (http://www.beautifullybroken.world) Instagram: (https://www.instagram.com/freddie.kimmelYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@beautifullybrokenworld Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

How Long Are Steroid Cycles in 2026? Dave Crosland and Scott McNally break down modern bodybuilding cycles, strength-focused PED protocols, PCT strategies, TRT, fertility, and the latest compounds being discussed in the industry. We also react to Mitch Hooper's revealed cycle, discuss oral steroids for strength, and answer listener questions. Plus, stay for Dave the Fugitive Pt 3! 0:00 Steroid Cycles For Strength (Show Preview) 1:00 Podcast Sponsors & Support 2:00 Best Steroid Cycles for Strength Gains 4:45 Strongman PED Cycles: Off-Season vs Contest Prep 9:45 Performance Enhancing Drugs Beyond Anabolic Steroids 11:15 Best Oral Steroids for Strength 15:00 Strength Cycles for Average Lifters 19:00 Mitch Hooper Reveals His PED Cycle 22:45 Our Reaction to Mitch Hooper's Cycle 26:00 How Long Is a Used Steroid Vial Sterile? 29:45 Why Injection Infections Seem Less Common Today 31:30 Enclomiphene as a TRT Alternative? 36:20 Testosterone Crash After PCT Explained 38:30 Are Bodybuilding Approaches Different Around the World? 43:00 Winstrol vs Anavar for Contest Prep 44:00 Anavar and Sleep Problems 45:40 Fertility Protocols While Staying on TRT 49:45 SLU-PP-332 and 5-Amino-1MQ Before a Contest 53:10 Low Dose Testosterone and NPP Cycles 57:00 How Long Can You Stay On Cycle and Still Recover? 58:00 Is Gaining 8 Pounds of Muscle in One Cycle Possible? 1:04:35 Can Natural Lifters Build Better Muscle Using GH? 1:11:00 Dave the Fugitive Part 3 1:29:30 Behind the Scenes Stories & Final Thoughts UK Blood Work Get your Labs done by Dave in the UK : https://evalbloodanalysis.com/home/ Support the Podcast Patreon — Help keep the show growing. Even $5/month makes a difference. https://www.patreon.com/thinkbigbodybuilding Sponsors TRUE NUTRITION — Custom supplements for serious lifters Use code THINK to save https://www.truenutrition.com/THINK STROM SPORTS — Performance supplements trusted by athletes UK: https://tinyurl.com/ydmbfa54 US: https://stromsportsus.com Supplement Source Canada — Top brand supplements with fast shipping http://www.supplementsource.ca Merch Official THINK BIG Merch — Train, represent, support the brand https://think-big.printify.me/products

What happens when you know something is wrong, but you're told everything is normal?In this personal episode, Janell shares the doctor's appointment that became a turning point in her life and ultimately shaped the work she does today.At 28 years old, she was exhausted, struggling with weight loss resistance, experiencing low libido, relying on daily naps, and finding it increasingly difficult to keep up with the demands of life. After sharing these concerns with her doctor and having her thyroid tested, she received a response that many women know all too well:"Your labs are normal."That conversation led Janell to explore functional testing, root-cause health, nervous system support, hormone balance, and a completely different way of understanding the body's signals.In this episode, you'll learn:• Why symptoms are often communication, not dysfunction• The difference between normal lab ranges and optimal health• The limitations of conventional thyroid testing• How functional testing provided validation and clarity• The impact stress and adrenal dysfunction had on Janell's health• What she wishes she had known about birth control and hormone health• How yoga became part of her healing journey• Why feeling seen and validated matters so much in the healing processThis episode is also the beginning of a deeper series sharing Janell's personal health journey and the experiences that ultimately led her to become a Functional Health Practitioner.Next StepsFunctional TestingExplore the functional testing options Janell discusses in this episode:https://www.thetransformationlife.com/functional-testingHealth Clarity CallSchedule a complimentary Health Clarity Call:https://www.thetransformationlife.com/schedule/health-clarity-callHormone Clarity QuizTake the Hormone Clarity Quiz:https://www.thetransformationlife.com/hormonequizIf you've ever felt dismissed, confused, or frustrated by your symptoms, this conversation is a reminder that your body isn't betraying you.It's communicating with you.And sometimes healing begins with simply deciding to listen.Thank you for being here.And as always, Have Faith & Take Action.

Unknown DNA from an unidentified contributor was recovered from inside Nancy Guthrie's home. That sample has been routed through multiple federal and state labs instead of going directly to the FBI's laboratory at Quantico. Jennifer Coffindaffer spent 28 years as an FBI Special Agent and knows how lab routing decisions affect timelines — and she walks through whether this one is helping or hurting the investigation.The DNA is one of two massive evidence pools in this case. The other is digital — thousands of hours of surveillance footage from intersection cameras, doorbell systems, and home security feeds across Tucson. Cataloging that volume, building vehicle movement timelines, tracking the white truck and red sedan reported near the property, mapping cellphone activity in the area — Coffindaffer explains the realistic processing timeline and why she believes the digital route may produce a name before the DNA does.The investigation has been troubled since the beginning. The crime scene was released too early. A thermal imaging plane was grounded because its pilot had been reassigned over a personal grudge. The initial lead sergeant reportedly had no homicide experience. Experienced detectives had already been sidelined. The sheriff's department declared doorbell camera footage unrecoverable — the FBI produced it roughly ten days later.Sheriff Nanos told the public Nancy had been abducted, then walked it back the next day. When questioned about the contradiction, he told reporters he wasn't used to being held accountable for what he says. An insider who spoke to a national outlet said what people inside the department were thinking during those early press conferences was simple: stop talking.Nancy Guthrie was 84 when she allegedly vanished from her home. Blood confirmed as hers on the porch. A masked armed figure on camera. Pacemaker disconnected. Phone, wallet, medication left behind. No arrest. No named suspect. The Guthrie family is still offering a $1 million reward. Coffindaffer examines whether this case was ever set up to succeed under this sheriff's leadership — and whether a prosecution can survive this many documented failures if someone is eventually charged.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #DNAEvidence #CODIS #FBI #ChrisNanos #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #TucsonArizona

Wanna hear the FULL Episode? Sign up for the Grad Program today! We have a very special episode of Student of the Gun Radio for you. This was recorded live in front of a studio audience. Next, we could not be more excited to bring you the news of the new EOTech EFLX CE "closed emitter" pistol mounted optic. Both Paul and Jarrad put hundreds of rounds down range using the new optic and will share their opinions and impressions with you. During our Coffee Corner from www.studentofthegun.com/blackout (Code STUDT20), we are pleased to announce that a brand new book is on the way from our friend Nicholas Orr. This one is called A Pipe Hitters Guide to Red Dots and Optics on Handguns. It is available as a pre-order as this show drops. For our SOTG Homeroom from www.SOTGU.com we will consider the concept of the Super Lab for firearms training. What are the qualifications for a Super Lab? What are some historical examples of the Super Lab being put into practice? TOPICS COVERED THIS EPISODE Huge thanks to our Partners: EOTech | Blackout Coffee EOTech Talk - EOTechInc.com TOPIC: EFLX CE - First Report shoot-on.com Coffee Corner - studentofthegun.com/blackout [Use Code: STUDT20] TOPIC: PH Guide to Red Dots and Optics on Handguns amzn.to/4e1k1SU  SOTG Homeroom - SOTG University TOPIC: Super Lab History: Fairbairn and Sykes www.shootingnewsweekly.com

Wanna hear the FULL Episode? Sign up for the Grad Program today! We have a very special episode of Student of the Gun Radio for you. This was recorded live in front of a studio audience. Next, we could not be more excited to bring you the news of the new EOTech EFLX CE “closed emitter” pistol mounted optic. Both Paul and Jarrad put hundreds of rounds down range using the new optic and will share their opinions and impressions with you. During our Coffee Corner from www.studentofthegun.com/blackout (Code STUDT20), we are pleased to announce that a brand new book is on the way from our friend Nicholas Orr. This one is called A Pipe Hitters Guide to Red Dots and Optics on Handguns. It is available as a pre-order as this show drops. For our SOTG Homeroom from www.SOTGU.com we will consider the concept of the Super Lab for firearms training. What are the qualifications for a Super Lab? What are some historical examples of the Super Lab being put into practice?

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Kunal Bhatia is originally from India, but moved to the Bay Area to start building his company. He admits there is quite a contrast between the two places, but originally he was from Bangalore, which is like the Silicon Valley of India - so the professional transition felt familiar. He's worked in AI For 12 years, and is on his 3rd company in the AI space. Outside of tech, he is married with a 3 year old daughter. He and his family love to go on hikes and be outdoors.Kunal and his team have been researching AI technologies within their current venture. In particular, they were focused on building self improving AI. Beyond that, they have started building and thinking about how to build the AI platform that builds all other technology.This is the creation story of Hexo Labs.SponsorsUnblockedTECH DomainsMezmoBraingrid.aiLinkshttps://hexolabs.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/kunalbhatia91/Our Sponsors:* Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/mt82fpxl #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.* Check out Plaud AI and use my code CODESTORY for a great deal: https://plaud.aiAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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I am thrilled to connect with Dr. Julia Haffner today. She's a European-trained medical doctor who has worked in internal medicine, geriatrics, family practice, chronic pain therapy, esthetics, and hair transplant surgery, where she continuously saw patients struggling with symptoms their bodies were desperately trying to communicate, yet testing failed to provide answers. Today, we explore where stress lives in the body and why midlife can feel so different for women. We discuss the connection between postpartum experiences and perimenopausal symptoms, the nervous system's relationship with fascia as a sensory organ, and how fascia responds to our personal experiences. We also examine trauma as highly bio-individual, lifestyle changes to support the nervous system during midlife, and how perimenopause impacts our adrenals. Dr. Haffner shares how she prefers to advocate for patients within the medical system, and talks about her app, which is free and available for listeners. We also cover how social media and technology influence our stress levels, Dr. Haffner's meridian-related energetic facelift, and how our emotions connect to our bodies.  Stay tuned for today's fascinating and insightful conversation with the delightful Dr. Julia Haffner, who also has a book coming out late this year. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN: The similarity between postpartum low-estrogen and perimenopausal symptoms How doctors often focus only on measurable lab data while overlooking nervous system dysregulation and chronic stress Dr. Haffner describes fascia as a sensory organ How Dr. Haffner learned to recognize patterns of tension, stress, emotional overwhelm, and physical trauma within the fascia Why trauma is not limited only to major events like war or abuse  Why women tend to become more sensitive to stress, relationships, and environmental pressures as their estrogen declines The value of gentler workouts in midlife to support stress reduction and nervous system regulation without increasing cortisol Why years of chronic stress can leave women feeling depleted during perimenopause  How constant scrolling can contribute to low-grade stress within the body Dr. Haffner introduces her menopause symptom tracking app Bio: Dr. Julia Haffner Dr. Julia Haffner is a European-trained medical doctor who worked across internal medicine, geriatrics, family practice, chronic pain therapy, aesthetic medicine, and hair transplant surgery — and kept seeing the same thing: bodies crying out for help that no test could hear. Life took her to Italy with her second daughter, where she discovered the ability to feel into any part of the body and sense what's stored there — a memory, a grief, a fear still frozen in the fascia decades later. What most people call limiting beliefs or self-doubt isn't a mind problem. It's stored in the body. In the tissue. In the fascia. And it stays there until someone helps it release. Over 1,000 remote sessions later: cancer in remission, chronic pain dissolved, self-doubt cleared from the body, the spark returning. She is the creator of the Energetic Facelift. Her message: You are your own best doctor. Connect with Cynthia Thurlow   Follow on X, Instagram & LinkedIn Check out Cynthia's website. Submit your questions to support@cynthiathurlow.com  Join other like-minded women in a supportive, nurturing community: The Midlife Pause/Cynthia Thurlow.  Purchase Cynthia's book, The Menopause Gut. Cynthia's Intermittent Fasting Transformation Book. The Midlife Pause Supplement Line Connect with Dr. Julia Haffner On her website Dr. Haffner's book, The State Before the Bite: Secrets of the Secret, will be released in late 2026