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Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Complexity of value but not disvalue implies more focus on s-risk. Moral uncertainty and preference utilitarianism also do., published by Chi on February 13, 2024 on The Effective Altruism Forum. As per title. I often talk to people that have views that I think should straightforwardly imply a larger focus on s-risk than they think. In particular, people often seem to endorse something like a rough symmetry between the goodness of good stuff and the badness of bad stuff, sometimes referring to this short post that offers some arguments in that direction. I'm confused by this and wanted to quickly jot down my thoughts - I won't try to make them rigorous and make various guesses for what additional assumptions people usually make. I might be wrong about those. Views that IMO imply putting more weight on s-risk reduction: Complexity of values: Some people think that the most valuable things possible are probably fairly complex (e.g. a mix of meaning, friendship, happiness, love, child-rearing, beauty etc.) instead of really simple (e.g. rats on heroin, what people usually imagine when hearing hedonic shockwave.) People also often have different views on what's good. I think people who believe in complexity of values often nonetheless think suffering is fairly simple, e.g. extreme pain seems simple and also just extremely bad. (Some people think that the worst suffering is also complex and they are excluded from this argument.) On first pass, it seems very plausible that complex values are much less energy-efficient than suffering. (In fact, people commonly define complexity by computational complexity, which translates directly to energy-efficiency.) To the extent that this is true, this should increase our concern about the worst futures relative to the best futures, because the worst futures could be much worse than the best futures. (The same point is made in more detail here.) Moral uncertainty: I think it's fairly rare for people to think the best happiness is much better than worst suffering is bad. I think people often have a mode at "they are the same in magnitude" and then uncertainty towards "the worst suffering is worse". If that is so, you should be marginally more worried about the worst futures relative to the best futures. The case for this is more robust if you incorporate other people's views into your uncertainty: I think it's extremely rare to have an asymmetric distribution towards thinking the best happiness is better in expectation.[1] (Weakly related point here.) Caring about preference satisfaction: I feel much less strongly about this one because thinking about the preferences of future people is strange and confusing. However, I think if you care strongly about preferences, a reasonable starting point is anti-frustrationism, i.e. caring about unsatisfied preferences but not caring about satisfied preferences of future people. That's because otherwise you might end up thinking, for example, that it's ideal to create lots of people who crave green cubes and give them lots of green cubes. I at least find that outcome a bit bizarre. It also seems asymmetric: Creating people who crave green cubes and not giving them green cubes does seem bad. Again, if this is so, you should marginally weigh futures with lots of dissatisfied people more than futures with lots of satisfied people. To be clear, there are many alternative views, possible ways around this etc. Taking into account preferences of non-existent people is extremely confusing! But I think this might be an underappreciated problem that people who mostly care about preferences need to find some way around if they don't want to weigh futures with dissatisfied people more highly. I think point 1 is the most important because many people have intuitions around complexity of value. None of these po...
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#138 - Wir sind in Anbetracht unterschiedlicher Situationen unterschiedlich bereit, Schmerzen zu tolerieren. Die Höhe deiner Motivation ist entscheidend für das Verfolgen und Erreichen deiner Ziele und da gibt es einen Punkt aus der Psychologie, den ich dir in diesem Beitrag aufzeigen möchte. Wir sprechen über Emotionen, Radikalen Konstruktivismus, unserer subjektive Bedeutung und anderen wichtigen Punkten. Viel Freude mit den Denkanstößen dazu in dieser Folge! Unter folgendem Link findest Du die Beitragsseite: www.iamfasting.de/p138
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Lexman Artificial interviews Sara Seager, a theoretical physicist and astrophysicist. They discuss the idea of disvalue and how it relates to mathematics and physics. They also discuss Sara's new book, Ammoniac.
Today we know the price of every thing but The VALUE of what is really important. We have come to equate value with price. Yet the priceless we DISVALUE, most often the GIFT of FAITH. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/fr-william-maestri-overfed-and-undernourished/support
Teresa talks to Foss Rana from Reasons to believe • Growing up years? [0:36] • From Islam (dad) Catholic (mom) to agnostic [02:26] • To Christianity [03:00] • Muslim is not a religion of peace, but there are peaceful Muslims? [03:15] • Biology pointed to a creator? [04:40] • If evolution were true there would be no reason to value life? [06:12] • Disvalue of life played out in public schools [07:36] • Manipulating DNA [09:13] • One hand told life has no meaning, then other hand told can become like God [09:50] • Transhumanism? [] • AI, Tesla, Google etc [10:50]”] • You can’t have both devalue life and be like God [11:26] • Desperate need to find God themselves [12:55]”] • Human trafficking [13:18]”] • What does evolution really teach? [17:33]”] • Those who do not fit paradigm would be disposed of [18:24]”] • Eugenics movement [19:47]”] • What makes us exceptional? [20:49]”] • Symbols? [23:15]”] • Some biologists are starting to say we are unique [24:15]”] • Satan tells us we are worth nothing [25:15]”] • God ascribed value to human’s in the Old Testament [26:50]”] • Treat the lesser people with contempt? [28:26]”] • What to say to someone who wants more than evolutionary lifestyle [29:40]”] Resources http://www.reasons.org/ Facebook Twitter Google+ LinkedIn
In this episode of Knowing Animals we speak to Oscar Horta about his journal article ‘The Problem of Evil in Nature: Evolutionary Basis of the prevalence of Disvalue’ which appeared in the journal ‘Relations’ in 2015. This episode of Knowing Animals is brought to you by AASA. AASA is the Australasian Animal Studies Association. You can find AASA on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/AASA-Australasian-Animal-Studies-Association-480316142116752/. Join AASA today!
Philosophy lecturer Chris Belshaw discusses environmental philosophy and distinguishes between ways in which it has been claimed that aspects of the environment can be valuable
Transcript -- Philosophy lecturer Chris Belshaw discusses environmental philosophy and distinguishes between ways in which it has been claimed that aspects of the environment can be valuable