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Description: Today, we're revisiting a pivotal conversation that changed the course of Jen's life and career. In 2016, during what was expected to be a routine interview with journalist Jonathan Merritt, Jen found herself speaking publicly for the first time about her views on abortion, politics, and LGBTQ+ issues—beliefs she had been wrestling with privately for over a year. While she was confident in her answers, she was unprepared for the backlash that followed. In this encore episode, Jen and Jonathan reflect on that moment and its ripple effects. Jonathan shares his own parallel journey—growing up as the son of a megachurch pastor, internalizing the “love the sinner, hate the sin” message, and later confronting his own identity as a gay man. His story, like Jen's, became public in ways he never expected, leading him on a path of deeper truth, faith, and purpose. Thought-provoking Quotes: “You told the truth. You were ready for this interview. You had actually been doing the work for a decade to be ready to answer those questions honestly. But, your PR wasn't ready.” – Amy Hardin “The best way to live is true. No matter what you think it will cost or what it does cost you, the cost is worth the reward.” – Jen Hatmaker Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Religion News Service - https://religionnews.com/about-rns/ Jen Hatmaker: Trump, Black Lives Matter, gay marriage and more by Jonathan Merritt - https://www.jonathanmerritt.com/article/jen-hatmaker-trump-black-lives-matter-gay-marriage Growing Up Evangelical and Gay with Jonathan Merritt - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-63/growing-up-evangelical-and-gay-with-jonathan-merritt/ My Saddest Good Friday in Memory: When Treasured Things are Dead - https://jenhatmaker.com/my-saddest-good-friday-in-memory-when-treasured-things-are-dead/ Love is the Game Changer of Our Faith: Bishop Michael Curry - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcast/series-24/love-is-the-game-changer-of-our-faith-bishop-michael-curry/ How to Create a Politics of Love: Lisa Sharon Harper - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcast/series-24/how-to-create-a-politics-of-love-lisa-sharon-harper/ Christian Rock Star Comes Out as Gay in Letter to the World - Jonathan Merritt - https://www.jonathanmerritt.com/article/christian-rock-star-admits-hes-gay-writes-letter-to-fans?rq=trey%20pearson Eugene Peterson on Changing His Mind About Same-Sex Issues and Marriage – Jonathan Merritt - https://www.jonathanmerritt.com/article/eugene-peterson-changing-mind-sex-issues-marriage?rq=eugene Leading Evangelical Ethicist is now Pro-LGBT (David Gushee) – Jonathan Merritt - https://www.jonathanmerritt.com/article/leading-evangelical-ethicist-now-pro-lgbt?rq=david A Faith of Our Own: Following Jesus Beyond the Culture Wars – Jonathan Merritt - Dr. Michael Lindsay, Sociologist & Author - https://www.taylor.edu/about/president-profile James Martin, Jesuit Priest - https://www.instagram.com/jamesmartinsj/ Guest's Links: Website - https://www.jonathanmerritt.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jonathan_merritt Twitter - https://x.com/JonathanMerritt Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/JonathanMerrittWriter Substack - https://jonathanmerritt.substack.com/ Connect with Jen!Jen's Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen's Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen's Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ Jen's Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the second round of the 2025 Pro Motocross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the first round of the 2025 Pro Motocross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay preview the 2025 Pro Motocross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 17th round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 16th round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 15th round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 13th round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 12th round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 11th round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 10th round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
What if the secret to lasting organizational success isn't just strategy but a flourishing workplace culture? In this episode, Dr. Michael Lindsay, president of Taylor University, shares how faith-driven leadership, values-based decision-making, and investing in people have led to remarkable growth in both employee engagement and institutional impact. Find full show notes here: https://bit.ly/434drmichaellindsay Share the love. If you enjoyed this episode, please rate it on Apple Podcasts and write a brief review. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-flourishing-culture-podcast/id1060724960?mt=2 By doing so, you will help spread our podcast to more listeners, and thereby help more Christian workplaces learn to build flourishing cultures. | Follow our Host, Al Lopus, on X https://twitter.com/allopus | Follow our Host, Al Lopus, on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/allopus/ | Email our host at al@workplaces.org
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the ninth round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the eighth round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the seventh round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D, Yamaha Motor USA and Motorex.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the sixth round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D and Yamaha Motor USA.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the fifth round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D and Yamaha Motor USA.
Can a Christian university create both spiritual depth and genuine joy? Dr. Michael Lindsay, President of Taylor University, reveals how his institution ranks #3 for happiest students nationwide while maintaining spiritual and academic rigor. In this episode, the Princeton-educated sociologist shares insights on developing faith-centered leaders, navigating college admissions, and integrating faith in the workplace. https://www.taylor.edu/ https://x.com/dmichaellindsay Parent Practicum events are hosted around the globe each year, inspiring and equipping parents to become better “everyday educators.” Combining the encouragement of community, integration of ideas, and practice with the classical skills, Parent Practicum is a once-a-year parent investment. Let us help you find a Parent Practicum event near you at www.ccpracticum.com
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the fourth round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D and Yamaha Motor USA.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the third round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D and Yamaha Motor USA.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the second round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX presented by Fox Racing, Yoshimura R&D and Yamaha Motor USA.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the first round of the 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Yoshimura R&D.
The 2025 Monster Energy AMA Supercross season starts with Anaheim 1 at Anaheim's Angel Stadium on January 11. Jett Lawrence, Cooper Webb, Chase Sexton, Eli Tomac, Jason Anderson, Ken Roczen, Hunter Lawrence, Aaron Plessinger, Justin Barcia, Jorge Prado and more make this 450SX's deepest field. In this Vital MX preview, hosts of the 'Post-Race Show' podcast – Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay – talk about the effectiveness of each athlete. DeCal Works, Fox Racing and Yoshimura support the show.
You read that right, we got FRO in studio for the first half! We talk to Jeff Emig about Moto-coaching. ambassador-ing, his championships, current racing and much more. Filthy is on the line to talk or complain about all of it. Josh Woods of GPF is on to talk about running his facility and what's in the future for him and also talk about current racing. Checker's from Race Tech is on to talk all things Race Tech and racing. Checkers is always great Moto-talk. We also have Michael Lindsay of VitalMX in studio! Great radio bro!
Michael Lindsay, President of Taylor University, joins the show to share how the principles of grace and truth guide his leadership, especially in the turbulent times facing Christian higher education.Michael tells us why he believes the pandemic elevated expectations for the value proposition of biblical higher ed and how Christian leaders can turn these challenges into opportunities. He also provides insights into a successful fundraising campaign for some of Taylor's exciting projects, including community outreach and campus expansions.Tune in to hear how Taylor University is helping to shape the next generation of Christian leaders through discipleship initiatives.Join us as we discuss:[5:17] Finding the motivation in a college president's work[13:16] How Taylor University is giving back to their community [18:59] Discipleship and seeking counsel from your predecessorsCheck out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:ABHE 78th Annual MeetingHinge Moments: Making the Most of Life's Transitions by Michael LindsayPresidential Fellows Program - Taylor UniversityTo hear this interview and many more like it, subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or our website, or search for Biblical Higher Ed Talk in your favorite podcast player.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss a variety of topics in week one of the off-season on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the 2024 SuperMotocross World Championship Finals on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the second 2024 SuperMotocross World Championship playoff on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at the first 2024 SuperMotocross World Championship playoff on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 11 of 2024 Pro Motocross, Ironman, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 10 of 2024 Pro Motocross, Budds Creek, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round nine of 2024 Pro Motocross, Unadilla, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
In this episode, Dr. Michael Lindsay, President of Taylor University, shares his insights on fostering a culture of trust to propel leadership success. We'll explore practical strategies for building trust, navigating leadership transitions, and the importance of continuous learning. Find full show notes here: https://bit.ly/401michaellindsay Share the love. If you enjoyed this episode, please rate it on Apple Podcasts and write a brief review. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-flourishing-culture-podcast/id1060724960?mt=2 By doing so, you will help spread our podcast to more listeners, and thereby help more Christian workplaces learn to build flourishing cultures. Follow our Host, Al Lopus, on X https://twitter.com/allopus Follow our Host, Al Lopus, on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/allopus/ Email our host at al@workplaces.org
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round eight of 2024 Pro Motocross, Washougal, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round seven of 2024 Pro Motocross, Millville, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round six of 2024 Pro Motocross, RedBud, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round five of 2024 Pro Motocross, Southwick, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that is happening in the sport currently, in a halftime report of sorts, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round three of 2024 Pro Motocross, Thunder Valley, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round two of 2024 Pro Motocross, Hangtown, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round one of 2024 Pro Motocross, Fox Raceway, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 17 of 2024 Monster Energy Supercross, Salt Lake City, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 16 of 2024 Monster Energy Supercross, Denver, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Mookie's SX season has been pretty quiet compared to what we have come to expect from the lil Stew but he comes on to talk about the year and goals for next season. Daxton Bennick is one of the fresh faces over at the Star Yamaha and he joins us to talk about his progress in year one. Justin Rodbell is on to talk about the PulpMX LCQ race that is coming up this weekend in Denver. The LEGEND Mitch Payton of Pro Circuit is on the show and you know we all love anything Mitch has to talk about so just listen in, right!? Michael Lindsey is in studio peeps!
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 15 of 2024 Monster Energy Supercross, Philadelphia, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 14 of 2024 Monster Energy Supercross, Nashville, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Christian leaders must walk wisely as they serve and speak God’s truth in today’s culture. Are you prepared to address your leadership concerns with confidence? Dr. Michael Lindsay joins Chris Brooks to take your questions and offer keen insights and Biblical wisdom to equip you for the Kingdom Work God has called you to do! NEXT Conference registration link here. EQUIPPERS - Our next EQUIPPER WEBINAR is this Thursday, April 18! REGISTRATION DETAILS ARE IN YOUR E-MAIL INBOX. Not an Equipper and want to attend? Become an Equipper Today
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 13 of 2024 Monster Energy Supercross, Foxborough, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.
Lewis Phillips and Michael Lindsay discuss all that happened at round 12 of 2024 Monster Energy Supercross, St. Louis, on the 'DeCal Works Post-Race Show' on Vital MX, presented by Fox Racing and Beta.