Production Meeting: True Tales of Independent Theater

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Creating independent theater is hard. Creating independent theater with no money is harder. For nearly a decade Aaron Garrett and Steven Saltsman have been making original theater with no funding, no help, and only the barest tracings of a plan.  In Production Meeting they discuss the challenges they're facing right now as they make vital, original theater and how they plan to solve them. Along the way they intend to talk about everything from conception of the show to cleaning up the lobby afterward. 

Pronoia Theater


    • Mar 21, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 47m AVG DURATION
    • 83 EPISODES


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    PM 92: Funding (Double Platinum)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2022 31:17 Transcription Available


    If we want people to gather in a dark room and watch Start Your Endings together we're going to have to set some money aside to fund the dang thing.  Aaron and Steven talk about the different avenues they could take and settle on a work-intensive and risky strategy (but what else where they going to do, these boys love the grindstone.)

    PM 91: Long Term Goals

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2022 57:25 Transcription Available


    Aaron and Steven talk some long and mid-term goals and even manage to make one! It's an exciting day. 

    PM 90: Killing Projects

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2022 20:53 Transcription Available


    Incessant creative fellow Jacob Godbey joins us to discuss recently ending his long-running podcast, Ginger on Ginger, how to know when to move on from projects, and where to focus one's time.  You can learn more about Jacob at godbeycreative.com and reach out to us at contact@pronoiatheater.com

    Double Platinum: Reading Post-mort

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2022 Transcription Available


    A rather delayed look at thoughts after the first reading of Pronoia's work-in-progress, Start Your Endings.

    PM 88: Self-Publishing with Riley Smith

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2022 29:42 Transcription Available


    In the first of hopefully many interviews with non-theater artists we talk today with Riley Smith about her journey to self-publish her novel rather than go through traditional channels. It's a great talk to listen to if you're looking for inspiration to be your own amplifier.  Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com Support the show at paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo:@pronoia

    PM 87: Lens for 2022

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2022 59:13 Transcription Available


    The year is dead, long live the year! Aaron and Steven gather together to set goals and intentions for 2022 since it seems like its going to stick around for awhile.  Aaron's goals:  Four or more non-Aaron directors for Space Train Get a hold, clean-up, and formalize our digital presence  Receive 26 rejections for grants, plays festivals etc. (reach out and apply to more things.)  Produce Start Your Endings (or abandon the project) Film four or more video sketches.  Pay off company debt.  Challenge from Steven: Cancel or produce something for purely selfish reasons.   Steven's Goals:  Establish medium-to-long term goals for the company.  Perform at two new venues Develop classes and workshops Experiment with forms Finish, continue, and plan Space Train Seasons 2, 3, and 4 Explore teaching Realize a full production Host more theatrical parties Pay performers for four or more productions. Challenge from Aaron: Have a higher excitement gate for things you agree to, and be more decisive in what you reject.  Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com Support the show at pronoiatheater.com/store, paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo: @ Pronoia

    PM 86: The Agony of Production

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2022 63:20 Transcription Available


    Many moons ago Sandra and Aaron sat down for her to ask some burning questions about online production in general and Space Train in particular. What begins as a normal discussion about trains in space soon blossoms into a dark gazing out a window into a torrent of content and obligation which never ceases. It's a fun time. Reach out to contact@pronoiaitheater.com Support the show at pronoiatheater.com/store, paypal.me/pronoiatheater, or venmo: @pronoia.

    PM 85: Building a Better Space Hospital

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2022 30:53 Transcription Available


    Last week we spun up a whole new universe of characters in the form of Space Hospital! The process mirrored the initial creation of Space Train in many ways and since we didn't have a podcast then we thought we'd walk you through how everyone's favorite(?) irresponsible doctors were birthed forth! Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com Support the show at Pronoiatheater.com/store, venmo @Pronoia or paypal.me/Pronoiatheater.

    PM 84: Remembrances (while Trapped)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2022 11:15 Transcription Available


    While Aaron took a week off (and was trapped in Nashville) he takes a short moment to remember some meaningful theatrical experiences from the year.

    PM 83: Podcast Hosting

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2021 18:54 Transcription Available


    A few weeks ago we awoke to an unsettling discovery: unapproved ads on all our podcasts! Aaron talks about the perils of relying on free software, podcasting solutions available to Pronoia, and what he hopes to do with the podcasts in the future. Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com

    PM 82: Kill the Year

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2021 68:59 Transcription Available


    Aaron and Steven gather together to begin in medias res and discuss this year in Pronoia Theater. Come for the moderately detailed financial report, stay for the two hosts breaking down a bit towards the end! Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com Support the show at Pronoiatheater.com/store, paypal.me/pronoiatheater, or venmo: @pronoia

    PM 81: Our Core Community

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2021 62:02 Transcription Available


    Aaron and Steven prep for the end of the year by talking about how to gauge the success of the community, how to serve, it, and who ends up owning the art Pronoia Theater creates!  Support the show at Pronoiatheater.com/store , paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo: @pronoia

    PM 80: Start Your Endings Reading (Double Platinum)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2021 72:44 Transcription Available


    It's time to have other people say words!  Start Your Endings has gone through a few revisions and we've now held a reading! Hear bits from the entire show and some of the thoughts from the cast and audience designed to hone to drive this show to morose perfection.  Thank you to Kacie Adams, Dano Colón, Callina Anderson, Jessica Kelly Garrett, Qasim Makkani, Todd Thigpen, and Clarity Leigh Welch for acting in the reading, and to Ian Mauzy and Zachary Storz for lending their thoughts afterwords.  Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com Support the show at Pronoiatheater.com/store, paypal.me/Pronoiatheater, or venmo: @Pronoia

    PM 70: How to Take a Note

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2021 27:50 Transcription Available


    All works benefits from revision and the creative process demands iteration. Since you are but a single person (for now, any day I'm sure I'll transcend into a gestalt entity,) how do you get thoughts that aren't natively yours? You ask for notes. (you already knew that, it's the name of the episode.)  Good notes can be hard to find: some people need coaxing to really give you what you need, and then even if they sometimes you're too defensive and you shut down the conversation just as its beginning.  As Aaron faces a looming pile of notes he shares his thoughts on how to solicit good notes, and how to prevent yourself from getting in the way. Support Production Meeting at Pronoiatheater.com/Store or give directly to paypal.me/Pronoiatheater or venmo: @Pronoia. 

    PM 69: Memorability

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2021 61:34 Transcription Available


    If we want our work to be meaningful it must first be remembered. After a bit of catch-up and new business Aaron and Steven discuss what ways a work may be made more memorable and what can be done to strengthen that part of their work.  Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com

    PM 68: Confessional

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2021 20:25 Transcription Available


    The first step to addressing any problem is acknowledging its existence, but as artists, people, and marketers there are a lot of pressures to always present a flawless front.  In this epsiode Aaron takes aim at three fairly major issues he finds in his own practice as he explores fears that keep him from reaching higher, focusing more, and pushing forward.  We hope you still like him.  Support the show at paypal.me/Pronoiatheater or venmo: @pronoia.  Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com

    PM 67: If This, Then Where (Green Bay)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2021 54:35 Transcription Available


    We wrap up our four festival tour in Green Bay, Wisconsin with friends Tommy Spears, Ben Hudson, Ben Seidensticker, and Claire Kannapell.  We chat about Peter Pan, geological ages of improv, and what we learned from this busy travel schedule.  If you want to support the show you can do so at paypal.me/Pronoiatheater or venmo: @pronoia

    PM 66: Merchandising!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2021 40:23 Transcription Available


    Whether one is designing a cult or just wants to amortize artwork merchandising is a great additional revenue stream for an arts business and for awareness of the company.  As with everything business related Aaron and Steven aren't good at it. But they're trying. They talk about their first steps into this world and where they're going with it.  Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com Support the show at paypal.me/Pronoiatheater or venmo @Pronoia

    PM 65: The Demise of 2021

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2021 55:38 Transcription Available


    As the leaves turn (not in Texas) and 2021 dies its slow, painful death Aaron and Steven reflect on the last few months of business and how they're contiuing to meet their goals before briefly prepping for the future.  Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com  If you'd like to support the show you can do so at venmo @pronoia or paypal.me/pronoiatheater!

    PM 64: The Secret City (If This, Then Where?)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2021 46:06 Transcription Available


    Eat some haunted brownies and come with us on a whirlwind tour of Oak Ridge, Tennessee! We were there for the inaugural Secret City Improv Festival and hear from Ben, Bailey, Kacie, and the rest of the gang (Steven and Aaron,) about their experiences, thoughts, and feelings.  Contact@pronoiatheater.com

    PM 63: State of the Double Platinum

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2021 33:29 Transcription Available


    It's been awhile since we talked. Aaron gives general updates about what Pronoia has been up to the last month before diving deep into the current state, and massive leaps forward, the break-up show has taken in the last three months.

    PM 62: Omaha (If This Then Where)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2021 45:15 Transcription Available


    We went to Omaha!... Eventually. In our first improv-festival since 2020 Aaron and Steven take a trip to the middle of the country and see what's funny there.

    PM 61: Flawed Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2021 30:21 Transcription Available


    Time constraints sometimes lead to work being released under adverse conditions. Whether it is rushed deadlines, or a lack of time to fully edit, this work may be a little rough around the edges, which can somtimes lead to exciting moments of uniqueness, or mushy underbaked drivel. The latest episode of Space Train (Rook of the Year) was the product of unclear goals and a rushed writing process. It hasn't aired yet, but Aaron is feeling uncertain about how he feels and he talks about that process in this week's Production Meeting!

    PM 60: DPS Book Club Summer 2021

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2021 80:16 Transcription Available


    Chelsea Curto joins Aaron to discuss the seven plays contained in Summer 2021's DPS Book Club. What did they think about this collection of plays about broken people? Listen to find out!

    PM 59: What's In Store

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2021 37:03 Transcription Available


    Our conversation with Kaitlyn Zoeller and Sandra Peck Ramsey continues as we move on from the themes of Space Train season on and the threads season two may have in store! We have shirts and bags now! Show your allegiance to the conspiracy of Pronoia at pronoiatheater.com/store. If you want to support the show for the pure love of it you have it within you to do so! Paypal.me/Pronoiatheater or Venmo: @Pronoia! Contact@Pronoiatheater.com

    PM 58: Themes of Space Train Season One

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2021 61:18 Transcription Available


    Production Meeting welcomes Space Train castmembers and literary bon vivants Kaitlyn Zoeller and Sandra Peck Ramsey to the show to discuss the themes present in Space Train season one and whether Aaron's opinion ever matters.

    PM 57: Lessons Learned

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2021 47:39 Transcription Available


    Writing the finale of a year-long project like Space Train is daunting, crippling even. In order to successfully realize this two-parter. Aaron and Steven discuss the writing process and how they may use those lessons in future projects.

    PM 56: Threats of Endearment

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2021 44:44 Transcription Available


    Let's hope Chelsea doesn't listen to recorded episodes. After a month of jiggery-pokery Aaron and Steven actually get down to business for what turns out to be a rather full September. Brief mentions of ongoing projects are surrounded on all sides by the practical discussions of programming upcoming live shows and planning to travel for the month of Festivals (tivals... ivals.. als.)

    PM 55: If This, Then Where? Seattle and New Mexico

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2021 45:12 Transcription Available


    Aaron took a trip to Seattle and New Mexico! What theater did he encounter there and what lessons did he learn?

    PM 54: Teach Sketch (W/ Ben Seidensticker)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2021 34:54 Transcription Available


    Friend and confidant Ben Seidensticker joins the show and he and Aaron swap opinions on sketch comedy, how to structure sketch comedy curriculum, and how to encourage people to write more. Eventually you can hear Ben's mystery podcast, but we don't know when or what it's called (that's all part of it.) Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have! Support the show at venmo: @Pronoia or paypal.me/pronoiatheater

    PM 53: Auditions (w/ Kacie Adams)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 49:27 Transcription Available


    Actress Kacie Adams joins us to discuss auditions: are they useful, can they be better, and when do they provoke Kacie to weep openly. Learn more about Kacie nowhere, for she is a woman of mystery. Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have! Support the show at venmo: @Pronoia or paypal.me/pronoiatheater

    Double Platinum: Who Needs Cohesion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2021 62:49 Transcription Available


    Steven's a Trafmalogorian, and theater business as well. Steven and Aaron check-in on the break-up show roughly halfway through it's initial writing process. What's working, what's not, and where should they go from here? Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have! Support the show at venmo: @Pronoia or paypal.me/pronoiatheater

    PM 51: How Theaters Make Money

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 5, 2021 46:39 Transcription Available


    To exist, theaters need money. This money can come from outside the organization in the form of its owners supporting it directly, but most people would prefer the the company be able to support itself. Today on Production Meeting we explore the seven ways theaters can make money, the trade-offs inherent in pursuing any of them to the detriment of the others, and how Pronoia interacts with each of those seven methods. Production Meet is the only show about producing independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have. If you want to support the show you can do so at paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo: @pronoia. Reach out at contact@pronoiatheater.com

    PM 50: Hitting Our Goals

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2021 46:57 Transcription Available


    At the beginning of the year Steven and Aaron set out ten goals each for Pronoia's coming year. Now halfway through, how are they doing? They discuss what goals no longer seem relevant, what they can cross off, and why Aaron has a hard time beleving that people respect him. Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have. You can support the show at paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo: @Pronoia.

    PM 49: June Post-Mort

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2021 63:12 Transcription Available


    June was a month chock-a-block with shows from Pronoia Theater! Between our first live performance in over a year to the ambitious God Kings III, we did a lot of things in a short amount of time. Aaron and Steven discuss community, writing, being rusty, and gauging audience reaction as they dive into this important month in the company. Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have. If you'd like to support the show you can do so at paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo: @pronoia. Reach out at contact@pronoiatheater.com

    PM 48: Q1 DPS Book Club

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2021 44:15 Transcription Available


    After slaying the 2020 DPS Book club in one swoop Aaron takes a quarterly approach and limits himself to talking about only seven plays this time around. It's not without its technical pitfalls though!

    Double Platinum: One Week

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2021 40:42 Transcription Available


    Time for a new kind of Double Platinum! While most of these episodes exploring the creation of a new sketch show are retrospective: explaining the process of coming up with the idea and how it turned out, this episode sees Aaron narrating his outline process as it happens in real (edited) time!

    PM 46: Improv Pitch Sesh

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2021 56:27 Transcription Available


    We interrupt your previously scheduled Production Meeting to bring you breaking news: we’re doing a live show! On June 5th we’re joining Ophelia’s Rope in a benefit for Cone Man Running in a real place with actual people. BUT we don’t know what we’re doing yet, so Aaron and Steven take an hour to discuss what they can offer to this entertainment starved crowd. Lots of ideas are thrown around, we land on the one that costs Aaron the most and everyone leaves home different than they were before. Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have. If you’d like to support the show you can do so at paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo: @pronoia.

    Double Platinum: Permanent Accessory

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2021 21:32 Transcription Available


    Double Platinum is the series within Production Meeting that tracks the writing process of a show in the middle of the writing process! The Stunt show is slowly adding scenes. Aaron discusses the thoughts behind the second sketch based off the Barenaked Ladie's song Alcohol and how to back into an idea that still fits your theme. Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have! If you want to support Pronoia Theater you can do so at paypal.me/Pronoiatheater or venmo: @Pronoia

    PM 44: Outlining Space Train

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2021 111:41 Transcription Available


    Before an episode of Space Train gets written Aaron and Steven outline it to make sure the story works. Join them in outlining an upcoming episode from season 2!

    PM 43: Pronoia Live Shows

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 20:13 Transcription Available


    As in-person restrictions are relaxed it’s time for Pronoia to look at returning to the live stage. An opportunity recently came up, and Aaron discusses it and Steven’s concerns in this week’s Production Meeting. You can support Production Meeting at paypal.me/pronoiatheater or venmo: @pronoia.

    PM 42: Director's Roundtable with Rebecca Bernstein and Rachel Blomstrum

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2021 47:22 Transcription Available


    In the last year the barriers have shifted in theater: what was once simple is not unreasonable, what was once impossible is now commonplace. Along with that new reality producers and directors must shift their thinking. We bring on Rebecca Bernstein of Zoom Shakespeare Productions and Rachel Blomstrum of the Quarantine Queens Theatre Company to discuss how their approach to theater has changed and how it will continue changing. Follow Zoom Shakespeare Productions Follow Quarantine Queens Theatre Company or contribute to their Patreon Reach out to us at Contact@pronoiatheater.com If you want to support the show you can do so at paypal.me/Pronoiatheater or venmo: @Pronoia

    PM 41: Wallflower Development and Post-Mortem

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2021 44:28 Transcription Available


    In addition to scripted material Pronoia develops new improvised forms. We set out to create a new, online-focused form that would take advantage of the medium instead of being hindered by it. These thoughts would coalesce into Wallflower. How did it go? Listen as Steven and Aaron hash out the details during the first rehearsal and their post-mortem after the performance.

    PM 40: Cabarets with Ruth & Autumn

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2021 45:44 Transcription Available


    Production Meeting is the only show about producing indepedent theater wherever you are with whatever you have! Boiling Point Players is an exciting theater company dedicated to bringing women to stage. Autumn Clack and Ruth McCleskey join the program to talk about their company, their annual cabaret, and why you shouldn't allow work from all over the country.

    PM 39: DPS Book Club

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2021 53:21 Transcription Available


    Production Meeting is the only show about creating independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have. As people who create independent theater it's important to keep abreast of what's going on in the larger theater world, and a good way to do that is by reading current plays. Dramatists Play Service is one of the larger play licenserers in America and they have a book club which sends you seven plays every quarter. Aaron subscribed to the DPS book club in 2020 and he's here to tell you what he thought of it, who he thinks it's for, and what can be learned from this group of 27- er, 28 plays.

    PM 38: Pitcher's Mound Third Edition Actor's Take

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 37:04 Transcription Available


    Production Meeting is the only show about producing independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have! Pitcher's Mound is a live workshopping show. Usually the actors aren't allowed to give their opinions on the material, but now they are! Listen to Steven Saltsman, Kathryn Noser, Clarity Leigh Welch, and Diana Alcaraz talk about the scripts by Ben Seidensticker, Aaron Garrett, Natalie Vaughn, and Andrea Santoni they just performed in.

    PM 37: Our Spring 2021 Season

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2021 91:24 Transcription Available


    Production Meeting is the only show about producing independent theater wherever you are with whatever you have! Anytime you plan to do more than one production you create meaning between the shows; you create a season. Aaron and Steven have planned many seasons at Pronoia Theater and before at previous institutions, and they usually do so behind closed doors, but not today! See the two fellows plan out the shows and podcasts Pronoia will put out online April through June of 2021, and through it their goals and values. Since it is the end of the quarter they also check in with their 2021 goals and see how that's going for them.

    PM 36: Ranking the 2020 DPS Book Club Plays

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2021 53:33 Transcription Available


    For 2020 Aaron joined the DPS Book Club: a service which sends seven plays from the Dramatists Play Service library every quarter, both new and old. Aaron spent the last three weeks catching up on all twenty-eight plays from 2020, and he's here to rank them in the order of what he which he would most like to see produced. Reach out to contact@pronoiatheater.com

    PM 35: Back to the Normal Talkback

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2021 48:36 Transcription Available


    After many weeks of talking about it, a delayed premiere, and a cool-down after the premiere we bring the saga of Back to the Normal to a close… or do we? Aaron and Steven are joined by Dennis Budde to discuss the production process of Back to the Normal, how a theater company approaches a short film, as well as the elations and disappointments of the final product. Go to Pronoiatheater.com to find the short film and our original interview with Dennis!

    PM 34: Sounds of Space Train "The Goodbye Girl"

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2021 50:21 Transcription Available


    Have you ever wondered what goes into creating the sound effects for an episode of Space Train? Aaron does a live walkthrough as he finds the sounds that bring “The Goodbye Girl” to life.

    PM 33: Audience, Competitor, Collaborator, Remixer

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2021 5:54 Transcription Available


    Aaron takes a few minutes to explain why he reads plays for fun and what he gets out of the quixotic practice.

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