Refin' It Up with Brian Hebner

This week Joe Coffey has alot to talk about after being released by WWE last month.  In addition to that Joe talks about coming up in Scotland and wrestling for ICW in Glasgow and becoming their champion on two occasions.  During his time off from the business Joe has been training with Bobby Fish in his gym so he is ready when he receives the call from the company that wants to sign him to their roster.  All this and so much more on this weeks episode!!! Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City TicketsFollow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

Gabby LasPisa got involved with wrestling right out of college when she became a part time producer for Fight Nation on Sirius XM.  Not knowing anything about the three sports she was producing shows for she began to pay attention more to some of the shows that made her fall in love with wrestling.  Gabby quickly rose in the ranks with Busted Open eventually becoming a full time producer.  After many years with Sirius XM she was let go from the company and found herself at a crossroads in her life.  But she took it as a way to start over and really make it on her own.  All this and so much more!!! Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City TicketsFollow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

David Herro has been a pivotal person in the wrestling business for over 20 years.  He joins us this week to talk about his outstanding career and so many great stories and moments throughout.  Lastly, Dave talks about his documentary that will be out soon called “The Herro's Journey” A Pro Wrestling Story.  All this and so much more this week on Refin It Up.   Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City TicketsFollow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

It's time to bring back #RefinRewatch this week.  Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel discuss the week that was in wrestling; then they watch and break down John Cone's job in the match between Chris Jericho and Dolph Ziggler from Summer Slam 2012.  Match Link https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8rkm49Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City TicketsFollow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

We welcome back legendary referee Mike Chioda back to the show, as we have a Refin Roundtable.  We talk about everything from Wrestle Mania 41 to  giving referees their flowers after they do something good, and finally we talk about the current wresting referee work.  Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City TicketsFollow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

Want the dirt? All you will get this week is a look into the day to day of Fightful Wrestling as we welcome  Sean Ross Sapp.  Sean talks about starting wanting to be a sport reporter only to find the world of pro wrestling.  In the world of social media Sean grew a following of wrestling fans; the good and the bad.  Sean talks about some of the run ins he had with the IWC and the great things that FIghtful Wrestling is putting out.  All this and so ,much moreRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City TicketsFollow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

Al Snow is one of the best minds in all of wrestling. He stops by the show this week to talk all things OVW Wrestling and what they have coming up in the near future.  Additionally, he touches on Rock's comments from last week.  Finally, Al talks about what could happen down the line for Triple H and The Rock.  All this and so much more this week!!! Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City TicketsFollow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

Shelly Martinez joins us this week; as she talks about everything about her time in WWE and TNA.  She also goes into detail on some of the ups and downs she encountered during her wrestling career.  She got into wrestling at a very critical time in her life when wrestling gave more to her then she ever thought shed get from it.  You will have to listen to this episode to find out all the details on that and so much more!!!Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with @PSLCityTickets Follow them on all social media platformsWe will have free sporting event tickets with tailgating before, and more giveaways. Visit pslcity.net to get the best tickets in your city!! 

We bring back Refin rewatch this week when we watch Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker from Wrestle Mania 25.  However, before that we talk about the busy Wrestle Mania weekend and some of the stories that were told and continue to be told going forward.  All this and our Refin Review this week. Match YouTube Link https://youtu.be/xjZkxVYBVjY?si=g1FGxFPSU67Il0HuRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

A storm is brewing this week as we welcome in former NWA World Heavyweight Champion Tim Storm to the show.  Tim takes time to sit down with us to talk about winning the NWA Title from Jax Dane and then ultimately tagging with Jax until his sudden passing.  Tim goes into depth on what went into being the face of the NWA as its champion and working with some great men in the ring.  He also talks about the impact that Nick Aldis had on him and on the company while Tim was working with him for the title.  Lastly, Tim talks about what he is doing when he is not wrestling as well as how he thinks Thom Lattimer is doing as the champion.   Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

It's time to make a deal this week as we welcome the current color commentator for the NWA Danny Dealz to the show. Being a pivatol point in TNA back in the day taught Dany Dealz a lot; so much that he takes some of the things he learned at TNA and applied it to his current work with the NWA.  Danny does go into detail on the current state of the NWA is and the crucial things Billy Gorgon went through as he got older.  He lastly talks about all the jobs he currently has and how to go about.   Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

This week we take you back to an episode we did on December 4, 2024 when we welcomed current TNA color commentator Matthew Rehwoldt to the show.  Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

Effy is in fact real as he joins us this week on the show.  The current GCW Heavyweight Champion talks shop with Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel about starting in the business and continuing to this day to work across the world.  Effy is one of the most unique characters in wrestling current; he talks about the creation of the character as well as working with Hootie and the Blowfish.  Lastly, Effy finishes talking about the dedication and passion of the GCW fans all over.  All this and so much more this weekRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel go back in time this week and watch live John Cena vs CM Punk from Money In The Bank 2011 in our Refin Rewatch.  We also talk about the John Cena promo from Raw and express some positivity in our Refin Review.CM Punk vs John Cena MITB 2011 Match Linkhttps://www.youtube.com/live/QZb3dfX3cQA?si=1_ubWoG3r1vhHnevRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

It's time for Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike Chioda this week.  Mike joins the show this week to catch up on this past weeks referee work in a special edition of Refin Review.  Mike also talks about the John Cena turn, what should main event both nights of Wrestle Mania, and what he is currently doing training referees in Florida.  Lastly, Mike shares some great stories from the past with Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

We all have a hero in our lives; this week we have a hero on the show.  We welcome Kal Herro to the show this week.  Formally  “Fanny Pack Kid” is going through a character evolution but fear not he has a great mind for the business and has many ideas of where he wants his character to go.  That mind for the business was taught to him at an early age as he traveled the roads with his father, Dave Herro.  Kal goes on to talk about the creation of the “Fannypack Kid”, his first match and training with some of the actors from the movie “Queen of the Ring.”  Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

We left the show up to you this week as we let you ask the refs anything.  Before we did that Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel talk about some of the possible storylines leading into Wrestle Mania.  We also touch in the rumor of Vince McMahon possibly starting a new wrestling promotion.   Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

The Hall of Famer Earl Hebner joins the show this week to talk shop with Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel.   Before Earl was in WWE he was reffing in the NWA and learning a lot from Tommy Young.  Earl also goes into depth on how important Dusty Rhodes was on his career.  The WWE Hall of Fame is the one thing that has alluded Earl, but he talks about what he would do if he got the phone call and who he would want to induct him.  Earl lastly talks about the jobs that Triple H and Shawn Michaels have been doing in WWE, as well the Montreal Redemption in TNA.  Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

Jonny Loquasto is the definition of doing all you can do to learn as much as possible. So when the time comes for you to take the next step up, you can make a splash.  In addition to that Jonny talks about how timing is everything; and explains how that has hurt him and more importantly helped him in his career.  Jonny additionally talks about how he got into stand up comedy before getting a call from WWE to come to work for them.  Through the ups and downs in the company Jonny enjoyed his time there and ultimately got the call that nobody ever wants to get.  Jonny then speaks about how he dealt with being released in 2020 and how he only rose and worked through it all.   Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

It's time to bash em this week as we welcome in current OVW National Heavyweight Champion Doug Basham.  Before heading into his title match this Saturday against Dustin Jackson at “Tough Love” Doug stopped by the show to talk about current wrestling at OVW, WWE and beyond .  While in WWE, Doug was challenged by some of the boys and Vince McMahon to make sure certain things didn't happen during a Tough Enough challenge on Smackdown.  He breaks down how it went and how it ultimately ended, in a good and bad way.  As a former tag team champion Doug talks about what happened when the writers gave them a manager and what their new gimmick was.  Lastly, Doug talks about coaching and training at OVW as well as NXT, and who are a few people to watch from each promotion.      Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Daniel Spencer Social Media  Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencer Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

Somebody call your mama and tell her that Ernest “The Cat” Miller is on this week's episode talking shop with us.  The Cat talks about his time with WCW and how Eric Bischoff got him into professional wrestling; leaving martial arts behind temporarly.  As he made his way through WCW he became popular and more popular; so much to the point when WWE called years later asking him to come to the company.  As one of Vince McMahons favorites The Cat became a fan favorite quickly as well in the WWE.  Lastly, The Cat talks about his acting career after leaving wrestling.  More so he talks about his role in “The Wrestler” with Mickey Rourke.    Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Daniel Spencer Social Media  Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencer Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait and AJ McKay 

The refs room is full this week as we welcome our brother in stripes Marty Elias to the show.  Brian, Jimmy, Daniel, and Marty talk about the current crop of wrestling referees and what it takes to be a good referee.  Marty then goes in to detail about the experience he had working Undertaker versus Shawn Michaels at Wrestle Mania 25.  In addition to all this and some great stories; Brian, Daniel, and Jimmy talk about the TNA and WWE partnership as well as some of our thoughts on TNA Genesis from this past weekend.   Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait

We welcome the most professional wrestler Brian Myers to the show. The former WWE and TNA Tag Team Champion sits down with us to talk chop about all the many different things he has going on. From working at TNA to training the up and coming wrestlers at Create A Pro to  creating some great content on the Major Wrestling Figure Podcast; Brian has certainly made a name for himself. Lastly, Brian finally speaks about what is to come from TNA Wrestling and what a great atmosphere it is.  Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Daniel Spencer Social Media  Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencer Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait

In our first episode of 2025 we welcome TNA/OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer as an addition to the show.  This week we speak about some of the latest news in the pro wrestling world.  We also bring back the popular segment “What If” to the show this week to discuss WCW, ECW, and WWE.  We lastly answer your questions that you sent in to us!!!   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Daniel Spencer Social Media  Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencer Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait

This week we hit the rewind button and take you back to our episode we had with Lance Storm from September of this year. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING.

We get in line this week and salute our guest Sergent Slaughter.  The WWE Hall of Fame joins Brian and Jimmy this week to talk about his career.  Sarge talks about facing men like Iron Sheik and Pat Patterson in some of the most iconic matches in wrestling history.  Furthermore, Sarge goes into great detail on his relationship with Vince McMahon. Lastly, Sarge talks about turning heel and facing Hulk Hogan as an Iraqi sympathizer.  All this and so much more this week!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING.

This week's show is on ice as we welcome from the NHL on ESPN and former WWE Television host, Arda Ocal, to the show this week.  Arda's two passions have always been wrestling and hockey which he goes into detail with Brian and Jimmy.  While working on television in Canada, Arda pitched an idea for a post-wrestling show on television.  Little did Arda know that the network loved the idea, and then he began to look for hosts.  He went directly to Jimmy, and they began a friendship that continues to this day.  Arda also talks about a time that he had a run-in with the Undertaker backstage and working with some of the best talent the game of hockey has ever seen.  Lastly, Arda tells the story of the first time he met Howard Finkel.  All this and so much more this week!!!   Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by DownstaitTRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USEOUR PROMO CODE REFIN ATCHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING.

We tackle the business this week when Brian and Jimmy break down some of the top wrestling news this week.  The passion Brian and Jimmy have for the business shows when they go deep into the state of the referees in AEW in of Refin Review.  This weekend is busy for wrestling as WWE presents Saturday Nights Main Event and TNA present Final Resolution; we talk about what we may or may not see.  All this and so much more this week!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING.

It's all drama this week as we welcome “Drama King” Matthew Rehwoldt to the show.  As the color commentator for TNA Wrestling Matthew is teamed with Tom Hannifan and he has done alot for him both at TNA and when they were together at WWE.  The transition from an in ring talent to the commentary isn't something many people can do but Matthew took the opportunity and ran with, and has flourished at it.  Matthew breaks down what it took for him to make that transition as well as how much work goes into a usually PPV day at TNA.  All this and so much more on this weeks episode.   Matthew Rehwoldt Social Media  Twitter, IG, Blue Sky, Twitch @DramaKingMatt Refin It Up Social Media Twitter, YOUTUBE and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMON GOODS.COM/REFIN Get The Chairman™ Pro Package today and experience a shave that is as smooth as you deserve.. Get 20% off + free shipping with the code REFIN at Manscaped.com

Its time to push all your chips in to the middle and cash out you winnings, because we welcome in the returning Cash Flo to the show this week.  Many things have changed since the last time Cash was on the show just after the “Wrestlers” was released on Netflix.  Since then Cash auditioned for and got the part as the character of “Big Foot” on the Paramount Plus hit series “Tulsa King” staring Sylvester Stallone.  Cash talks about how he landed the role, working with Sylvester Stallone, and how life has changed for him since “Wrestlers” came out.  Lastly, he speaks about what he has been doing inside the ring at OVW and what we have to look forward to there.  All this and so much more on this weeks episode.  Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by DownstaitTRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USEOUR PROMO CODE REFIN ATCHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING.Get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.COM/REFINGet The Chairman™ Pro Package today and experience a shave that is as smooth as you deserve.. Get 20% off + free shipping with the code REFIN at Manscaped.com

This week we give flowers to a man that deserves it; we welcome Executive Producer of Busted Open Radio on Sirius XM Paul Erlick to the show.  After graduating from Temple University Paul was offered an internship at WWE that he gladly accepted; and as they say the rest is history.  Over 14 years later Paul moved to Sirius XM where he began to producer the best wrestling program across the world.  Lastly, Paul talks shop about some of the hosts and co hosts of Busted Open, with stories that you must listen to to understand it.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMON GOODS.COM/REFIN Get The Chairman™ Pro Package today and experience a shave that is as smooth as you deserve.. Get 20% off + free shipping with the code REFIN at Manscaped.com

For over 30 years Tom Carlucci has seen alot in the wresting business.  On this episode Tom talks about his time working in the WWE as a floor manager, assistant producer, and senior director. From being ringside at King of the Ring 1998 and at Survivor Series 1997 to gaining friends he had for a lifetime; the WWE meant everything to Tom.  Lastly, talks candinly about being furloughed in 2020 and what it seriously took out of him.  All this and so many great stories on this episode of Refin It Up.     Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com Get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMON GOODS.COM/REFIN

He is the man with the golden voice and he is the pinnacle of interviews; this week we welcome Chris Van Vliet to the show.  Chris started off in the backyards of Pickering, Ontario, Canada wrestling then moved quickly into the seat he is very familiar with now; the interviewer seat.  We talk to Chris about his wrestling fandom growing up and what led him to have some great conversations with some of the best in wrestling.  Lastly, Chris gives a peak behind the curtain on who he was surprised that gave him alot in their interviews.    Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com Get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMON GOODS.COM/REFIN

On this very special edition of the show we welcome in current Head Official from TNA, Daniel Spencer to the show as he, Brian and Jimmy talk about the busy week of professional wrestling.  In addition to that we discuss some of the guest referee moments in wrestling history.  This and so much more on this weeks episode.  Chris Bey Go Fund Me https://www.gofundme.com/f/chris-bey-recovery-funds Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. To get 15% off your next gift, go to uncommongoods.com/refin Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

This week you have to trust the system as we welcome Alisha Edwards, from TNA Wrestling to the show.  Being a part of TNA for as long as Alisha has been is something she prides herself on.  The locker room is a close knit family to the point that Alisha has earned the titles “Moral Officer” and “Party Mom.”  Before that Alisha talks about, when she was knocked out at Emergence 2024.  As scary as that was for he she is determined to get back in the ring to defend her Tag Team Titles that she holds with Masha Slamovich.  She lastly talks about how the formation of “The System” has helped her career and rejuvenated it.  All this and so much more this week.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

The new NWA Heavyweight Champion, Thom Latimer joins us this week. When he first saw a tape from Wrestle Mania 8 Thom knew he wanted to be a wrestler no matter what.  Through good times and bad he made that happen and made it happen all over the world.  From WWE to NXT to IMPACT and now to NWA, Thom has made his imprint on the business.  With the good comes the no so good as well; Thom talks about battling his demons and how he overcame them and is now sober.  Lastly, he speaks about what working in the NWA means to him and his future in wrestling when the time comes to hang it up.  All this and so much more on this weeks Refin It Up.    Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

Ricardo Rodriguez has see it all.  He has been on the top of the mountain and at the bottom of it as well throughout his wresting career.   Ricardo talks about his time in the WWE as Alberto Del Rio's personal ring announcer and manager. The bond that they formed was unmatched.  He caught the producing bug a little bit when he was in WWE and then took it to MLW where he is currently helping with their production.  Furthermore, he talks about the hopes of going back to WWE; this time a little wiser and looking at things at a different way.  Lastly, Ricardo talks about the demons he have overcame as well as what led to him asking for his release from WWE.    DONATE to help those affected by Hurricane Helene: belovedasheville.com mannafoodbank.org ashevillepolicefoundation.org Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

It's time to start to rock with Ricky Gibson this week. One half of four second heat joins us to talk about he recent appearance on Smackdown with Kevin Owens and Randy Orton.  However, he first starts to  talk about how he maintains his love for professional wrestling.  As a student of wrestling Ricky is all about learning from some of the greats of the past and tries to incorporate it in his wrestling style for himself and his tag team partner, Eddie Pearl.  All this and so much more!!!  Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

Can we get serious for a moment? Lance Storm joins the show this week to talk about his phenomenal career in WWE, WCW, and ECW.  Lance talks about how the “UnAmericans” formed and you will be surprised on who played a critical role in it.  As one of the best minds in all of wrestling history Lance talks about what was the pinnacle of his career in regards to work as well as exposure to the fans.  Lance goes on to talk about the art of being a producer/agent in todays wrestling as well as the cross promotions between wrestling promotions today.  All this and so much more on this great episode!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

The last professional broadcaster, Sam Roberts joins us this week.  Sam's resume is long but packed with some great things.  When he started as an intern with the Opie and Anthony show little did he know he would be doing what he is doing currently.  Between his show on Sirius XM with Jim Norton to his successful podcast, Notsam Podcast, and his appearances in WWE; Sam has put out some fantastic content.  All this and so much more!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait Download the PrizePicks app today and use code REFIN and get $50 instantly when you play $5! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/REFIN TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

The Worlds Strongest Man, Mark Henry joins us this week to talk shop with Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas.  Mark talks about everything from Sexual Chocolate to the Olympics and to all his accolades inside and outside the ring.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by Downstait Download the PrizePicks app today and use code REFIN and get $50 instantly when you play $5! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/REFIN TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

We have an all ref episode of Refin It Up this week.  TNA Referee Daniel Spencer fills in for RJ and joins two of the greatest pro wrestling referees of all time, Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas.  The dynamic trio talks about the week that was in the world of wrestling and answers all your questions.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download the PrizePicks app today and use code REFIN and get $50 instantly when you play $5! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/REFIN TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

You have seen some of his gear designs across the wrestling landscape; this week we welcome Rodney Caldwell to the show.  It is true that in wresting it is sometimes about who you know.   Rodney talks about getting involved with the independent wrestling scene on the west coast, which led him to meeting some influential people that pointed him in the right direction.  All that led himself to JD Hoop and Sandra Gray to start designing gear for some of the big names in all the major promotions.  He also touches on some of his musical work that he has done and what he may have coming out soon. All this and so much more this week.         Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

He's handsome, He's brave, He's strong; he is Jacques Rougeau.  He is also known for being a former WWE Intercontinental and Tag Team Champion.  Jacques talks about his time tagging with his brother as well as PCO.  Additionally, he talks about the great feud with “Big Bossman” and their epic match at Summer Slam 1991.  Jacques talks about his real life scuffle with Dynamite Kid.  Lastly, he goes into detail about woking with Hulk Hogan in Montreal and defeating him.  All this and so much more this week.   Jacques Rougeau Wrestling Academy  https://www.lutteacademie.ca/en/ Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

This week we welcome in somebody that has literally done it all in the wrestling business from training as an ending talent to commentary to backstage work. Veda Scott has done a lot in professional wrestling. She joins us this week to talk about the women's revolution in professional wrestling as well as a one night only knockouts knock down pay-per-view in TNA where she had the honor of working with Gail Kim. Going from coast to coast doing commentary can be difficult at times, but also learning the New Japan Pro wrestling style compared to the wrestling style in the states can also be difficult. Veda talks about what she took away and learned from that experience. Lastly, she talks about separating home life with her husband, current TNA X-Division champion , Mike Bailey, and the wrestling business. Even though their life is professional wrestling. All this and so much more on this week's episode. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@refinitup Website ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

This week former WWE/NJPW/ROH announcer Kevin Kelly is the toast of the town.  When he got into the WWE in 1996 it only took him four months to go from a backstage interviewer to announcing RAW with Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler.  Kevin has been the main announcer wherever he went outside of one place.  We will talk all about his time in the wrestling business and beyond on this weeks episode.    Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

This week David Penzer returns to the show and many things change since he has been on.  David talks about his new book that is out now, “Sitting Ringside.”  The book has taken you through getting into the business and then becoming the lead ring announcer for WCW.  David goes into detail about meeting with Jim Ross about going over to WWE when WCW closed in 2001.  All this and many more great stories as we talk shop with David Penzer.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

Being at a promotion from the beginning is key and our guest this week did just that.  Joe Galli started with the NWA at the early stages after Billy Corgan bought the promotion.  While at Championship Wrestling From Hollywood Billy approached Joe about being the voice of the NWA.  This was something that Joe couldn't say no to; and continues to be the voice of the NWA to this day.  Joe also has taken on the role of Chief Operating Officer. He has worked very hard to make sure everyone can see the NWA product all over the world.  Before officially getting into wresting Joe worked in television stations as a reporter from Ohio to California; however all the roads led back to wrestling.  All this and so many great stories from the road with Joe Galli this week.  Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

The best hand in the business joins the show this week as we welcome former WWE Creative Director Tommy Blacha to the show.  After leaving the Conan O'Brien Show in 1999 Tommy made his way to the then WWF.  As one of the top writers with the company at that time he was responsible for a number of memorable stories in WWF; including the Mark Henry and Mae Young story.  Tommy goes into depth on other stories he either came up with or had a hand in creating.  Lastly, Tommy remembers the times working with some of the top talent in the WWF in the brief time he was with the company as well as working for the boss himself.  All this and so much more this week!!!  Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

It's time to bring one of the most recognizable faces in WWE history and a man that has done so much in wrestling and beyond.  This week we bring in Jonathan Coachman to Refin It Up.  From 1999-2008 Coach was a part of the WWE and had some of the greatest backstage segments with the likes of The Rock and so many more top talent in the WWE.  After leaving WWE Coach found his way over the ESPN and excelled with the leader in sports.  Golf has been a big part of Coach's career at ESPN and has began to commentate some big moments in PGA history.   Finally, we talk about the famous story about the race with Tony Chimel and talk some current wrestling as well.   Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com

You can be physically fit or mentally fit but this week we are REF FIT with our guest, NWA Referee Jarrod Fritz.  Being trained by some great wrestlers got Jarrod in shape to make his in ring debut as a wrestler and then transitioned into being one of the best referees today in wrestling.  Brian and Jarrod met young into Jarrod's career and quickly became a mentor for Jarrod.  Working the right way in the ring is crucial for a referee and Jarrod goes above and beyond to make sure his work is the best that it can be.  Ref Fit isn't just a tag line its a way of life!!! Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠ Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ⁠⁠⁠⁠ajmckaycreative.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ TRY BLUECHEW FREE WHEN YOU USE OUR PROMO CODE REFIN AT CHECKOUT--JUST PAY $5 SHIPPING. Use the promo code "REFINITUP" to get 15% off ALL products at madcatbeardcare.com