Podcast appearances and mentions of kate mcgregor

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussion of trauma and sexual violence that some listeners may find difficult.On this episode, Kate McGregor joins for a discussion of so-called "comfort women" of Indonesia. McGregor's new book is Systemic Silencing: Activism, Memory and Sexual Violence in Indonesia, published in 2023 as part of the Critical Human Rights series at the University of Wisconsin Press. In the 1930s and 1940s, the Japanese military imposed a system of prostitution across East and Southeast Asia. Since the 1990s, survivors of the system, euphemistically called “comfort women,” have sought recognition of and redress for the sexual violence they endured. Systemic Silencing explores this history, its fallout, and ongoing activism of its survivors in the context of Indonesia. Kate McGregor is Professor in Southeast Asian History in the School of Historical and Philosophical Studies at the University of Melbourne. She specializes in Indonesian historiography, with particular interests in memories of violence, the Indonesian military, Islam, identity, and historical international links between Indonesia and the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The system of enforced prostitution by the Japanese military went unpunished and unexamined for decades after the Asia-Pacific War.  International recognition only began in 1991 when Korean survivor Kim Hak-sun spoke out in graphic detail about her dark past.  In Systemic Silencing: Activism, Memory, and Sexual Violence in Indonesia, University of Melbourne historian Kate McGregor tells the story of the transnational struggle for recognition and redress for and by the women of East and Southeast Asia.  Focusing on the less studied case of Indonesia, she points out how the sexual abuse and exploitation of Indonesian woman began during the Dutch colonial era.  She reveals how collaboration with the Japanese, sentiments of shame, and Cold War political and economic pressures favored the silencing of this past.  

During the Asia-Pacific War the Japanese military forced thousands of women across East and Southeast Asia into a brutal system of organized prostitution.  The label of “comfort women” only masks the true reality of this massive human rights crime that went largely unpunished for decades after the war.  Most attention to this history has focused on Korea and Japan where the movement for redress began earliest.  Find out how the struggle for recognition and redress unfolded in Indonesia on the January 2nd episode of the Realms of Memory podcast.  Listen to University of Melbourne historian Kate McGregor, author of Systemic Silencing: Activism, Memory, and Sexual Violence in Indonesia.  

Kate McGregor - Activism, Memory and Sexual Violence During its Occupation of East Asian and Southeast Asian countries in World War II, including the Netherlands Indies, the Japanese military installed a system of enforced prostitution, known euphemistically as the ‘comfort women' system. Today these crimes are relatively well-known and condemned. In 1993 the Japanese state issued an apology known as the Kōno statement. In the 1980s and 1990s, a transnational activist movement which included women from Korea, Japan, the Philippines and elsewhere, began to speak out and make demands for redress. In Indonesia, however, activism on the so-called ‘comfort women' issue was slower to emerge, faced with challenges from both inside and outside the country. In her new book 'Systemic Silencing: Activism, Memory and Sexual Violence in Indonesia', Kate McGregor takes a close look at the system itself and seeks to understand it in the context of Indonesia's own colonial and post-colonial history. What were the social contexts in Indonesia prior to and following the Japanese Occupation in relation to women, sexual exploitation and prostitution? What did it take for the voices of these survivors to be heard? How is this period in Indonesia's history remembered today? And what are its legacies for activism on sexual violence? In this week's episode Jemma Purdey chats with Kate McGregor, professor of Southeast Asian history in the School of Historical and Philosophical Studies at the University of Melbourne. In 2023, the Talking Indonesia podcast is co-hosted by Dr Jemma Purdey from Monash University, Lis Kramer from UNSW, Tito Ambyo from RMIT and Dr Jacqui Baker from Murdoch University. Image: Book cover illustration of Indonesian 'comfort women' by feminist scholar and artist Dewi Candraningrum / 'Systemic Silencing: Activism, Memory and Sexual Violence in Indonesia', University of Wisconsin Press, Madison, 2023.

We head to the provincial archives, where I speak to PhD student Kate McGregor, who's been processing the private records of the province's longest serving premier - Richard Hatfield.

Phil and Edward chat to UK-based theatre director, writer, and workshop animateur, Kate McGregor, about her experiences of working with young people around the UK and beyond, and the inspiring role the arts can play in transforming people's lives.

Here we are, at the final chapter of The Adventures of Pinocchio, where we'll see if Pinocchio can save Gepetto from the terrible Disco Whale. We really hope you've enjoyed listening to this series and had as much fun as we did making it! Please do share on social media (we're @goblintheatre) or leave us a review on itunes. The Adventures of Pinocchio is a 7 part series adapted from the book by Carlo Collodi. It's based on a theatre production by Goblin Theatre, and features the voices of Michaela Bennison, Dan Bottomley, Lil Davis, Will Dollard, Mary Erskine and Barry Shannon. Suitable for all ages.A Goblin Theatre creation. Music & Lyrics by Will Dollard & Mary Erskine, Written by Matt Borgatti, Directed by Kate McGregor. Audio produced by Mary Erskine & Will Dollard Check out www.goblintheatre.co.uk for more information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

You join us for the penultimate episode of The Adventures of Pinocchio. In this chapter, we get a bit festive! Pinocchio finally catches a break and has the chance to be reunited with Gepetto... all he has to do it wait, but that is easier said than done for Pinocchio, especially if the Fox has anything to do with it... The Adventures of Pinocchio is a 7 part series adapted from the book by Carlo Collodi. It's based on a theatre production by Goblin Theatre, and features the voices of Michaela Bennison, Dan Bottomley, Lil Davis, Will Dollard, Mary Erskine and Barry Shannon. Suitable for all ages.A Goblin Theatre creation. Music & Lyrics by Will Dollard & Mary Erskine, Written by Matt Borgatti, Directed by Kate McGregor. Audio produced by Mary Erskine & Will Dollard Check out www.goblintheatre.co.uk for more information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Did someone say Fish Disco? In this episode we see what happens to Gepetto as he crosses the Ocean (and see how many fish puns you can spot in the first song!). Meanwhile, on dry land, Pinocchio decides to go to school, but there's a sting in the tale... The Adventures of Pinocchio is a 7 part series adapted from the book by Carlo Collodi. It's based on a theatre production by Goblin Theatre, and features the voices of Michaela Bennison, Dan Bottomley, Lil Davis, Will Dollard, Mary Erskine and Barry Shannon. Suitable for all ages.A Goblin Theatre creation. Music & Lyrics by Will Dollard & Mary Erskine, Written by Matt Borgatti, Directed by Kate McGregor. Audio produced by Mary Erskine & Will Dollard Check out www.goblintheatre.co.uk for more information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We built this cityWe built this cityWe built this city on Rocky Roads...Things are about to get a little bit weird and funny, as Pinocchio goes to The Land of Cakes. All alone after his adventures finding and losing fame in the big city, Pinocchio is lost and needs some direction. Luckily a mysterious stranger is on hand... but as Pinocchio goes to the Land of Cakes he finds out it might not be as sweet as he imagined. Meanwhile, Gepetto is released from Prison- will he finally be reunited with Pinocchio? The Adventures of Pinocchio is a 7 part series adapted from the book by Carlo Collodi. It's based on a theatre production by Goblin Theatre, and features the voices of Michaela Bennison, Dan Bottomley, Lil Davis, Will Dollard, Mary Erskine and Barry Shannon. Suitable for all ages.A Goblin Theatre creation. Music & Lyrics by Will Dollard & Mary Erskine, Written by Matt Borgatti, Directed by Kate McGregor. Audio produced by Mary Erskine & Will Dollard Check out www.goblintheatre.co.uk for more information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

You join us for Chapter 3 of Pinocchio, where things start getting a little bit weird (in a good way!). With Gepetto in prison, Pinocchio is left to fend for himself... but not for long! He soon meets the “trustworthy” Fox who takes him to the big city to become rich and famous- what could possibly go wrong!? It's also the first time Pinocchio tells a lie... The Adventures of Pinocchio is a 7 part series adapted from the book by Carlo Collodi. It's based on a theatre production by Goblin Theatre, and features the voices of Michaela Bennison, Dan Bottomley, Lil Davis, Will Dollard, Mary Erskine and Barry Shannon. Suitable for all ages.A Goblin Theatre creation. Music & Lyrics by Will Dollard & Mary Erskine, Written by Matt Borgatti, Directed by Kate McGregor. Audio produced by Mary Erskine & Will Dollard Check out www.goblintheatre.co.uk for more information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

You join us for Part 2 of The Adventures of Pinocchio. It's Pinocchio's first day being alive, and he's got a lot to learn! Gepetto tries his best at teaching him but things go a little bit wrong as Pinocchio gets very hungry... (also see if you can spot a podcast "Easter Egg") The Adventures of Pinocchio is a 7 part series adapted from the book by Carlo Collodi. It's based on a theatre production by Goblin Theatre, and features the voices of Michaela Bennison, Dan Bottomley, Lil Davis, Will Dollard, Mary Erskine and Barry Shannon. Suitable for all ages.A Goblin Theatre creation. Music & Lyrics by Will Dollard & Mary Erskine, Written by Matt Borgatti, Directed by Kate McGregor. Audio produced by Mary Erskine & Will Dollard Check out www.goblintheatre.co.uk for more information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In this first episode you join us at The Spinning Yarn Storytelling Bar, where we meet our narrator The Blue Fairy. She introduces you to poor Gepetto (a man who smells of sausages and broken dreams) as he carves a wooden puppet boy from a piece of magical wood... The Adventures of Pinocchio is a 7 part series adapted from the book by Carlo Collodi. It's based on a theatre production by Goblin Theatre, and features the voices of Michaela Bennison, Dan Bottomley, Lil Davis, Will Dollard, Mary Erskine and Barry Shannon. Suitable for all ages.A Goblin Theatre creation. Music & Lyrics by Will Dollard & Mary Erskine, Written by Matt Borgatti, Directed by Kate McGregor. Audio produced by Mary Erskine & Will Dollard Check out www.goblintheatre.co.uk for more information. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Today I'm chatting with Kate McGregor, managing editor of lifestyle and entertainment website PopSugar. Kate's normal life involves running a busy team, attending press and fashion events and writing up a storm. Whilst this all sounds very Sex and the City, we hear how taking a Carrie Bradshaw approach to working from home isn't working for Kate. View Kate's home style at https://madeleinepark.co/podcast/2020/3/31/kate-mcgregor

A discussion with Kate McGregor of Mountain View’s Computer History Museum about women we should all know from computer history.Kate McGregor: Kate is a STE(A)M advocate, museum educator, content developer and curriculum designer striving to help students, families and educators to explore concepts of problem-solving and innovation through the lenses of computer science and computer history, with activities that encourage critical thinking, collaboration, communication and creativity. At the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California, Kate manages Family & Community guided and self-guided programming, events and activities for diverse intergenerational audiences. She leads the Museum’s efforts to expand program offerings through onsite and offsite family and community programming, in order to create meaningful points of engagement for visitors of all ages, backgrounds and knowledge bases. Kate developed and leads the Museum’s flagship Design_Code_Build program which engages middle school youth from all parts of the community.From their website:The Computer History Museum is a nonprofit organization with a four-decade history as the world’s leading institution exploring the history of computing and its ongoing impact on society. The Museum is dedicated to the preservation and celebration of computer history and is home to the largest international collection of computing artifacts in the world, encompassing computer hardware, software, documentation, ephemera, photographs, oral histories, and moving images.Links from this episode:Computer History Museum: https://www.computerhistory.org/COBAL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOLReshma Saujani: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reshma_SaujaniWoGrammer: https://wogrammer.org/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This interview is the fourth and and final interview in a short series of podcasts about the mass violence in Indonesia.  Earlier this year I talked with Geoff Robinson, Jess Melvin and Kate McGregor and Annie Pohlman about their works. All of them have written thoughtful, carefully researched and richly detailed analyses of the violence.  Each of them shared a similar interest in the causes and nature of the violence.  While their approaches varied, each attempted to shed new light on events which have been hidden or misrepresented. Vannessa Hearman, in her new book Unmarked Graves: Death and Survival in the Anti-Communist Violence in East Java, Indonesia (NUS Press, 2018), continues this effort.  By focusing on East Java, Hearman looks at the violence from another angle, allowing us to compare how different regions descended into violence.  Reading her book together with Melvin’s offers us a fuller understanding of the relationship between high-level actors and local officials and between center and periphery.  In particular, her analysis of the relationship between the army and non-state actors was eye-opening. But Hearman offers much more than this.  The book, largely based on extensive interviews Hearman conducted over the course of years, recounts the violence on an individual level.  Hearman helps us understand how those who were targeted with murder tried to escape.  She documents the networks of safe houses, couriers and information sources that emerged within days of the violence.  She demonstrates how the Communist Party in East Java tried to understand and respond to the violence, reminding us that, in Indonesia, violence was a process, not an event.  And she shows how the army eventually destroyed the Party’s attempt to create a safe space, using violence that affected not only the communists, but other citizens who lived in the region.  It’s a richly textured, thoroughly researched and ultimately moving portrayal of people trying to understand how their world was falling apart. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This interview is the fourth and and final interview in a short series of podcasts about the mass violence in Indonesia.  Earlier this year I talked with Geoff Robinson, Jess Melvin and Kate McGregor and Annie Pohlman about their works. All of them have written thoughtful, carefully researched and richly detailed analyses of the violence.  Each of them shared a similar interest in the causes and nature of the violence.  While their approaches varied, each attempted to shed new light on events which have been hidden or misrepresented. Vannessa Hearman, in her new book Unmarked Graves: Death and Survival in the Anti-Communist Violence in East Java, Indonesia (NUS Press, 2018), continues this effort.  By focusing on East Java, Hearman looks at the violence from another angle, allowing us to compare how different regions descended into violence.  Reading her book together with Melvin’s offers us a fuller understanding of the relationship between high-level actors and local officials and between center and periphery.  In particular, her analysis of the relationship between the army and non-state actors was eye-opening. But Hearman offers much more than this.  The book, largely based on extensive interviews Hearman conducted over the course of years, recounts the violence on an individual level.  Hearman helps us understand how those who were targeted with murder tried to escape.  She documents the networks of safe houses, couriers and information sources that emerged within days of the violence.  She demonstrates how the Communist Party in East Java tried to understand and respond to the violence, reminding us that, in Indonesia, violence was a process, not an event.  And she shows how the army eventually destroyed the Party’s attempt to create a safe space, using violence that affected not only the communists, but other citizens who lived in the region.  It’s a richly textured, thoroughly researched and ultimately moving portrayal of people trying to understand how their world was falling apart. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This interview is the fourth and and final interview in a short series of podcasts about the mass violence in Indonesia.  Earlier this year I talked with Geoff Robinson, Jess Melvin and Kate McGregor and Annie Pohlman about their works. All of them have written thoughtful, carefully researched and richly detailed analyses of the violence.  Each of them shared a similar interest in the causes and nature of the violence.  While their approaches varied, each attempted to shed new light on events which have been hidden or misrepresented. Vannessa Hearman, in her new book Unmarked Graves: Death and Survival in the Anti-Communist Violence in East Java, Indonesia (NUS Press, 2018), continues this effort.  By focusing on East Java, Hearman looks at the violence from another angle, allowing us to compare how different regions descended into violence.  Reading her book together with Melvin’s offers us a fuller understanding of the relationship between high-level actors and local officials and between center and periphery.  In particular, her analysis of the relationship between the army and non-state actors was eye-opening. But Hearman offers much more than this.  The book, largely based on extensive interviews Hearman conducted over the course of years, recounts the violence on an individual level.  Hearman helps us understand how those who were targeted with murder tried to escape.  She documents the networks of safe houses, couriers and information sources that emerged within days of the violence.  She demonstrates how the Communist Party in East Java tried to understand and respond to the violence, reminding us that, in Indonesia, violence was a process, not an event.  And she shows how the army eventually destroyed the Party’s attempt to create a safe space, using violence that affected not only the communists, but other citizens who lived in the region.  It’s a richly textured, thoroughly researched and ultimately moving portrayal of people trying to understand how their world was falling apart. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This interview is the fourth and and final interview in a short series of podcasts about the mass violence in Indonesia.  Earlier this year I talked with Geoff Robinson, Jess Melvin and Kate McGregor and Annie Pohlman about their works. All of them have written thoughtful, carefully researched and richly detailed analyses of the violence.  Each of them shared a similar interest in the causes and nature of the violence.  While their approaches varied, each attempted to shed new light on events which have been hidden or misrepresented. Vannessa Hearman, in her new book Unmarked Graves: Death and Survival in the Anti-Communist Violence in East Java, Indonesia (NUS Press, 2018), continues this effort.  By focusing on East Java, Hearman looks at the violence from another angle, allowing us to compare how different regions descended into violence.  Reading her book together with Melvin’s offers us a fuller understanding of the relationship between high-level actors and local officials and between center and periphery.  In particular, her analysis of the relationship between the army and non-state actors was eye-opening. But Hearman offers much more than this.  The book, largely based on extensive interviews Hearman conducted over the course of years, recounts the violence on an individual level.  Hearman helps us understand how those who were targeted with murder tried to escape.  She documents the networks of safe houses, couriers and information sources that emerged within days of the violence.  She demonstrates how the Communist Party in East Java tried to understand and respond to the violence, reminding us that, in Indonesia, violence was a process, not an event.  And she shows how the army eventually destroyed the Party’s attempt to create a safe space, using violence that affected not only the communists, but other citizens who lived in the region.  It’s a richly textured, thoroughly researched and ultimately moving portrayal of people trying to understand how their world was falling apart. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don’t often start these blog posts with comments about the cover art.  But the reproduction of Alit Ambara’s “After 1965,” featured on the cover of the new set of essays The Indonesian Genocide of 1965: Causes, Dynamics and Legacies (Palgrave Macmillan, 2018), fits the subject perfectly.  The piece compels your gaze, while resisting easy interpretations and answers. I found the book much the same. The essays, edited by Katharine McGregor, Jess Melvin, Annie Pohlman, demand attention.  Roughly divided into two sections, they range from military/political analyses to contemplations about the way the genocide left its mark on individuals and communities to reflections on the failures of the Indonesian state to acknowledge its complicity. Each individual essay informs and challenges. I have a new appreciation of the nature of the Genocide Convention and  the ways it can be interpreted after reading. Annie Pohlman and Jess Melvin’s essay on the logic for calling the killings genocide  And the pieces on efforts by visual artists (by Kate McGregor) and puppeteers (by Marianna Lis) left me running to google to learn more. As I said in the interview, I learned an enormous amount from the book. But collectively the essays are also a call to action. As you’ll hear in the interview, the editors are clear-eyed about the long-term consequences of the violence and the failures of Indonesians to address this. Fifty years on, the struggle to understand the genocide and address its consequences continues. This podcast is part of a short series on the mass atrocities in Indonesia. Last month, I talked with Geoff Robinson about his book The Killing Season. In the months to come, I’ll be speaking with Jess Melvin and Vannessa Hearman about their research on killings. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don’t often start these blog posts with comments about the cover art.  But the reproduction of Alit Ambara’s “After 1965,” featured on the cover of the new set of essays The Indonesian Genocide of 1965: Causes, Dynamics and Legacies (Palgrave Macmillan, 2018), fits the subject perfectly.  The piece compels your gaze, while resisting easy interpretations and answers. I found the book much the same. The essays, edited by Katharine McGregor, Jess Melvin, Annie Pohlman, demand attention.  Roughly divided into two sections, they range from military/political analyses to contemplations about the way the genocide left its mark on individuals and communities to reflections on the failures of the Indonesian state to acknowledge its complicity. Each individual essay informs and challenges. I have a new appreciation of the nature of the Genocide Convention and  the ways it can be interpreted after reading. Annie Pohlman and Jess Melvin’s essay on the logic for calling the killings genocide  And the pieces on efforts by visual artists (by Kate McGregor) and puppeteers (by Marianna Lis) left me running to google to learn more. As I said in the interview, I learned an enormous amount from the book. But collectively the essays are also a call to action. As you’ll hear in the interview, the editors are clear-eyed about the long-term consequences of the violence and the failures of Indonesians to address this. Fifty years on, the struggle to understand the genocide and address its consequences continues. This podcast is part of a short series on the mass atrocities in Indonesia. Last month, I talked with Geoff Robinson about his book The Killing Season. In the months to come, I’ll be speaking with Jess Melvin and Vannessa Hearman about their research on killings. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don’t often start these blog posts with comments about the cover art.  But the reproduction of Alit Ambara’s “After 1965,” featured on the cover of the new set of essays The Indonesian Genocide of 1965: Causes, Dynamics and Legacies (Palgrave Macmillan, 2018), fits the subject perfectly.  The piece compels your gaze, while resisting easy interpretations and answers. I found the book much the same. The essays, edited by Katharine McGregor, Jess Melvin, Annie Pohlman, demand attention.  Roughly divided into two sections, they range from military/political analyses to contemplations about the way the genocide left its mark on individuals and communities to reflections on the failures of the Indonesian state to acknowledge its complicity. Each individual essay informs and challenges. I have a new appreciation of the nature of the Genocide Convention and  the ways it can be interpreted after reading. Annie Pohlman and Jess Melvin’s essay on the logic for calling the killings genocide  And the pieces on efforts by visual artists (by Kate McGregor) and puppeteers (by Marianna Lis) left me running to google to learn more. As I said in the interview, I learned an enormous amount from the book. But collectively the essays are also a call to action. As you’ll hear in the interview, the editors are clear-eyed about the long-term consequences of the violence and the failures of Indonesians to address this. Fifty years on, the struggle to understand the genocide and address its consequences continues. This podcast is part of a short series on the mass atrocities in Indonesia. Last month, I talked with Geoff Robinson about his book The Killing Season. In the months to come, I’ll be speaking with Jess Melvin and Vannessa Hearman about their research on killings. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don’t often start these blog posts with comments about the cover art.  But the reproduction of Alit Ambara’s “After 1965,” featured on the cover of the new set of essays The Indonesian Genocide of 1965: Causes, Dynamics and Legacies (Palgrave Macmillan, 2018), fits the subject perfectly.  The piece compels your gaze, while resisting easy interpretations and answers. I found the book much the same. The essays, edited by Katharine McGregor, Jess Melvin, Annie Pohlman, demand attention.  Roughly divided into two sections, they range from military/political analyses to contemplations about the way the genocide left its mark on individuals and communities to reflections on the failures of the Indonesian state to acknowledge its complicity. Each individual essay informs and challenges. I have a new appreciation of the nature of the Genocide Convention and  the ways it can be interpreted after reading. Annie Pohlman and Jess Melvin’s essay on the logic for calling the killings genocide  And the pieces on efforts by visual artists (by Kate McGregor) and puppeteers (by Marianna Lis) left me running to google to learn more. As I said in the interview, I learned an enormous amount from the book. But collectively the essays are also a call to action. As you’ll hear in the interview, the editors are clear-eyed about the long-term consequences of the violence and the failures of Indonesians to address this. Fifty years on, the struggle to understand the genocide and address its consequences continues. This podcast is part of a short series on the mass atrocities in Indonesia. Last month, I talked with Geoff Robinson about his book The Killing Season. In the months to come, I’ll be speaking with Jess Melvin and Vannessa Hearman about their research on killings. Kelly McFall is Professor of History and Director of the Honors Program at Newman University. He’s the author of four modules in the Reacting to the Past series, including The Needs of Others: Human Rights, International Organizations and Intervention in Rwanda, 1994. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices