Tell Me What To Say with Drew Kugler

What's a risk you took that turned out well? What about one you wish you had taken? I invite you to listen and participate in this episode as a guided workshop for whatever risk or change you may be facing.

Drew Kugler and Ari Kaplan discuss the differences in how children and adults discuss their busy days, with a focus on how they answer the simple (and sometimes throwaway) question, "How are you?" Monk Manual Article: https://monkmanual.com/blogs/monk-notes/monk-notes-10-on-you-lost-that-busy-feeling-oh-that-busy-feeling?vgo_ee=sF1VVxqxgXq97OuHuO5hmvlMy%2BOWWuyaZunZiCXh6gI%3D John Mulaney Stand-Up Routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZU_hA4Pr4

In November 2020, Dr. Osterholm was appointed to President Joe Biden's 13-member Transition COVID-19 Advisory Board. Dr. Osterholm is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. From June 2018 through May 2019, he served as a Science Envoy for Health Security on behalf of the US Department of State. He is also on the Board of Regents at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa. He is the author of the New York Times best-selling 2017 book, Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs, in which he not only details the most pressing infectious disease threats of our day but lays out a nine-point strategy on how to address them, with preventing a global flu pandemic at the top of the list. The Atlantic article by Ed Yong Frontline Families Fund

This episode explores one essential distinction we must make when pursuing real change. Think about where you spent your three hours in shock on January 6 - what have you done about what you've seen and felt since? Please also see this article by Ibram X. Kendi and video by Andrew Marantz for additional insight on what we all saw and how we talk about it.

Dr. Andrea Ghez is an astronomer and professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at UCLA. In October of 2020, she became the fourth woman to be awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for her discovery of a supermassive compact object, now generally recognized to be a black hole, in the center of the Milky Way galaxy. In today's episode, she discusses the conversations and curiosities that led her to this work, as well as how disagreeing and collaborating leads to richer scientific insights.

When something goes wrong, how quickly do you search for "tools" or a "blueprint" to fix it? Today, we explore how seeking to merely fix what's broken isn't enough - we must figure out what we're trying to build and why. This episode also happily introduces my colleague, Ari Kaplan, who will occasionally join in on TMWTS.

It's easy to watch a news story and decide what we think of the characters involved. In this episode, I explore how we can better pause and learn the lessons of what happens around us - not so we can make judgements about others, but so we can make changes in ourselves.

What makes the best leaders? My guest today discusses the dedication to listening and caring she believes to be the cornerstone of true leadership. In a world that focuses so much on what people do, Shellye and I take the time to dive into how good leaders make the people around them feel.

How are your political conversations going these days? Not with people with whom you agree - I mean the ones with people whose views you can't even begin to fathom. Are you even having them? Just remember - no matter what happens in this election, those people aren't going anywhere. If you're not constructively engaging in the discomfort, what are you accomplishing?

It's not just showing up to the scene and taking pictures. My guest this week discusses how he uses conversation to build trust and respect on the ground, even in the most dangerous and emotionally charged situations, in order to produce the best photographs for the New York Times.

How do you guide an organization and the people it serves through uncertainty? My guest today explains how his school uses its mission and values as a "north star," regardless of the circumstances they can't control.

Forget where "Cancel Culture" shows up in the slog of news and media. Instead, think about where it shows up in your life. When is the last time you shut someone out, and why? Indulge me in a brief exploration of how we can better engage with people who we feel have wronged us or those we care about.

My guest this week discusses his life's work guiding companies through large-scale change, and how his personal journey recovering from a stroke has informed that work. I invite you to listen to Keith Yamashita's unique and enlightening perspective on how humans can, both individually and collectively, embrace that process of self-renewal.

As the virus grinds on, Zoom and such have entrenched themselves into all corners of connecting with others. On today's episode of TMWTS I offer my perspective on making the most you can of this pandemic necessity.

On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I explore a persistent myth about how people change their behavior. We must rethink our urge to persuade with facts, and instead meet emotion with emotion.

My newest podcast with Dr. Natasha Bhuyan highlights the lifesaving impact deliberate conversations have in the medical field. I invite you to listen to how she and her teams employ a central pillar of Constructive Candor: getting other people to tell their story. It creates shared vision, understanding, and action when everything is on the line.

On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I offer Thoughts and suggestions on the demands on creating long term change. With so many more voices rising, progress will depend on what listening follows them. Especially when things get uncomfortable.

Bishop Kenneth Ulmer is the leader of Faithful Central Bible Church. He has studied at Pepperdine University, Hebrew Union College, the University of Judaism and Christ Church and Wadham College at Oxford University in England. He received a PhD. from Grace Graduate School of Theology in Long Beach, California, was awarded an Honorary Doctor of Divinity from Southern California School of Ministry, and he received his Doctor of Ministry from United Theological Seminary. He participated in the study of Ecumenical Liturgy and Worship at Magdalene College at Oxford University in England, has served as instructor in Pastoral Ministry and Homiletic at Grace Theological Seminary, as an adjunct professor at Biola University (where he served on the Board of Trustees), and as an adjunct professor at Pepperdine University.

Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers its messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to reduce the stigma around mental health and frame the conversation with more positivity and optimism. Peiman has said that it should feel the same telling someone you’re going to therapy as it does telling them you’re going to the gym.

Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers it's messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to reduce the stigma around mental health and frame the conversation with more positivity and optimism. Peiman has said that it should feel the same telling someone you’re going to therapy as it does telling them you’re going to the gym.

Drew discusses one of the most common mistakes we make when interacting with others - we don't stop talking. Whether it's deliberately choosing when to pause or asking thoughtful questions, Drew provides concrete ways for you to create space in every part of your life for others to participate.

Sue Naegle is the Chief Content Officer at Annapurna Pictures. Prior to that, she was President of HBO Entertainment, and was instrumental in shepherding such shows as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, True Blood, Treme, Eastbound & Down, Enlightened, Veep and Girls.

For over 40 years, the provocative voice of Tom Peters has been at the forefront of changing how we work and how we take care of one another. You can learn more about our guest today at tompeters.com.

Offering his unique blend of refreshing candor and spiritual intelligence, Rabbi Steve Leder weighs in on the challenges of guiding his congregation and himself through this pandemic. We talk fear, loss, and how this crisis can make us more beautiful than before.

Entrepreneur and best-selling author Seth Godin talks with Drew about the power of conversations to “turn lights on” and thereby illuminate the potential for positive change.

Educational consultant Nat Damon talks with Drew about six elements that excellent teachers incorporate in their classrooms; qualities that be applied to executive leadership as well.

Rabbi Sarah Bassin talks with Drew about her work in fostering intercultural, interfaith conversations to bridge divides of perception and reframe how we deal with conflicts in society.

Trishla talks with Drew about her passion for meaningful conversations and the process that led to the design of a social experience, Gather Conversations, to create more genuine connections.

Phil Rosenthal, creator and of "Everybody Loves Raymond" and "Somebody Feed Phil" talks about his belief that sharing meals and laughter gets people to engage in better conversations.

Microsoft's Satya Nadella and Kathleen Hogan talk with Drew about what it really takes to evolve a work culture and conversations that inspired significant changes in how people think about their work.

Virtual Reality authority and Stanford University researcher Jeremy Bailenson talks with Drew about the progressive and perilous aspects of this technology that go beyond fantasy.

If you lost your job and were told that you were unemployable, what would you do? For today’s guest, former marketing executive Bob Oswaks, the answer was to pursue his passion and to turn that into a profession.

Drew answers listeners’ questions about corporate personality tests (not a fan), self-coaching, and the success that altruism can inspire.

Raise your glass and listen in as Don Weaver—Director of the world-renowned Harlan Estate—talks with Drew about the link between great wine and great conversations.

Drew begins to take questions from listeners that will be answered in upcoming episodes. He’ll apply his 32 years of coaching experience to the audience's communication problems at work, at home, and in the world. Let the conversation begin!

Newspaper publisher, editor, and writer Rob Eshman says that writing is the most comfortable way for him to communicate with people. Yet Eshman, a self-described introvert, shares with Drew his realization that face-to-face conversations are where the most meaningful issues must be addressed.

Knowing when to open your mouth and knowing when to shut it. That’s some of the communication advice offered by Peter Principato, President and CEO of Principato-Young Entertainment, in today’s frank and funny conversation with Drew.

In today’s conversation, Randall Kline, the Executive Artistic Director and Founder of SFJAZZ, talks with Drew about his journey to create the renowned success that SFJAZZ has become. Randall discusses the lessons he’s learned about leading this dynamic organization from his high school football coach, a bartender, Steve Martin, and the jazz great Sonny Rollins.

Drew talks with Andrea Lieberman, a stylist-turned-fashion designer and founder of her eponymous company, A.L.C. Their discussion begins with the inspiration that New York City’s diverse cultural environment had on Andrea’s interest in fashion. And she describes her role as a creative leader who has learned that tackling difficult conversations is a necessary part of nurturing a successful business.

A thought-provoking and fun conversation with journalist, author and illustrator Christopher Noxon. Topics include politics, religion, family and what to do when your shoes fall apart on the red carpet.

Sr. Rabbi Steven Leder of the Wilshire Boulevard Temple in Los Angeles talks about journeys through physical and spiritual pain, and finding meaning in the suffering we will all face. Drawing from personal experiences and those of his congregation, Rabbi Leder shares his understanding of how to persevere through life’s challenges.

Drew talks with Jessie Kornberg, the President and CEO of Bet Tzedek, a community-based organization in Los Angeles that provides free legal services to the most vulnerable. This conversation covers Jessie’s career path starting with dance and transitioning to work in caused-based organizations. She shares insights on the difference between judgment and mentorship, helping her team cope with complexity, and disruptive moments that create change.

Who doesn't love In-N-Out Burger? In this podcast, the chain's CEO Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson opens up to Drew about the family business, family values, faith, and the counter-intuitive secret to the brand's success.

NYT best-selling author Dan Pink joins TMWTS to talk with Drew about unanswerable questions, avoiding hard conversations, and how Pink's prolific career flows from his concept of the “slow hunch.” Drew pitches in with a backstage story of how this episode came to life (twice), and learns from Dan what it takes to have what are essentially conversations with his readers.

The inaugural episode of this podcast series is devoted to a conversation with Sheryl Sandberg. In addition to serving as the COO of Facebook, Sheryl is a renowned thought leader on life and the workplace. Our conversation explored the nuances of feedback, and gave us an opportunity to delve into her sensitive and thoughtful perspective after the tragic death of her husband Dave.

I often remind my clients that we're not always dealing with life and death; but I can't say that as you listen to Dr. Atul Gawande—surgeon, writer, and researcher. Our interview weaves through interesting connections, resulting in how the right kind of conversations can save, extend, and improve the quality of life.

Where does our belief that we can make a difference in the world come from? What kind of connection with others is necessary to create that difference in a unique way? A conversation with Lena Waithe, the first African-American woman to win an Emmy® for comedy writing, helps us explore these questions through the prism of her experiences.