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This is Crucial is a live conversation and podcast focused on healing justice and racial equity. It’s about the conversations we are afraid to have, the issues we are scared to address, and the stories we have too long overlooked. Hosted by Amos J. Disasa and Charlene Han Powell, This is Crucial invites guests and listeners to come with their questions and observations, hopes and heartache. We all hail from different places but are sojourners headed in the same direction—in search of the truth that’s embodied by beloved community. Come as you are but be prepared to be transformed. Learn more at thisiscrucial.com

This is Crucial


    • May 9, 2023 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 1h 5m AVG DURATION
    • 30 EPISODES


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    TIC 30 | Ask Us Anything with Amos and Charlene

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2023


    No guest this time around, just your questions!

    TIC 29 | Dr. William Yoo (Part 2) on Prophetic Zeal and the Asian-American vs. African-American Experience

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2023


    Dr. William Yoo joins us for a second time to talk about the prophetic zeal in the church, the difference between the Asian-American and African-American experience, and how to answer the question: "Where are you from?"

    TIC 28 | Dr. William Yoo (Part 1) on Slavery, Politics in the Church, and Why He's Still a Presbyterian

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2023


    A conversation with Dr. William Yoo that touches on slavery in the Presbyterian Church, when it's okay to be ambivalent, and whether or not we should talk about politics from the pulpit.

    TIC 27 | Bronwyn Harris on White Bias, Teaching in East Oakland, and Dissecting Cow Eyes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2023


    We enter the new year with a new crucial conversation with writer and educator Bronwyn Harris.

    TIC 26 | Jason Max Ferdinand on The Power of Music, How to be a Good Choir Member, and Funeral Songs

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2022


    Jason Max Ferdinand on The Power of Music, How to be a Good Choir Member, and Funeral Songs

    TIC 25 | Scott Black Johnston on Loving Your Enemies, Purity Culture, and What it's Like to be a White Man Today

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2022


    Scott Black Johnston, author and Senior Pastor of Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church in Manhattan, joins Charlene and Amos to talk about his new book- Elusive Grace: Loving Your Enemies While Striving for God's Justice.

    TIC 24 | Jeff Chu on Evolving Faith, Not Being Defined by Your Title, and Experiencing Healing

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2022 53:42


    A whole new season. A whole New series of episodes. A whole new set of guests. Season 2 kicks off with an interview with writer, reporter, pretend farmer, preacher, and teacher Jeff Chu. This is Crucial is a monthly podcast hosted by Charlene Han Powell and Amos Disasa featuring guests with something to say about healing justice, equity and transformation.

    TIC 23 | The Future of Faith: A Panel Discussion with Molly Basket and David Vásquez-Levy

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2022 90:52


    The season finale of This Is Crucial. For the first time ever, co-hosts Amos Disasa and Charlene Han Powell and their esteemed guests Molly Baskette and David Vásquez-Levy will gather in-person at First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley for a live panel discussion on the future of faith.

    TIC 22 | Rev. Dr. Willie James Jennings on Finding Hope, The Future of the Church, and Jesus as the Question to Our Answers

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2022 58:54


    Our hosts are joined by Rev. Dr. Willie James Jennings, currently Associate Professor of Systematic Theology and Africana Studies at Yale University Divinity School. Find out more about This is Crucial at ThisisCrucial.com

    TIC 21 | Rabbi Zach Fredman on Accepting Imperfection, Healing in Community, and Jewish White Privilege

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2022 61:15


    Our hosts are joined by Rabbi Zach Fredman, spiritual leader and Creative Director of the Temenos Center for the Arts, a Brooklyn community that creates projects, media and events that live at the intersection of spirituality and the arts. Find out more about This is Crucial at ThisisCrucial.com

    TIC 20 | Let's Talk About Our Ancestors with Dr. Sandhya Jha

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2022 62:09


    Why we need them and what they tell us. Our hosts are joined by Dr. Sandhya Jha, an anti-oppression consultant who particularly loves helping organizations get Diversity/Equity/Inclusion teams off the ground. This is Crucial is a podcast with live and interactive recording sessions focused on healing justice and racial equity.

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    TIC 19 | Personal Stories from People in the Pews

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2022 59:08


    Amos and Charlene are joined by guests from their respective congregations to talk about what's been crucial in their personal journeys of faith over the last two years. Has church supported (or slowed) their pursuit of healing justice and racial equity? Where have they seen glimpses of transformation? This month we are telling personal stories from people in the pews.

    TIC 18 | Let's Talk About Colonialism with Dr. Christine Hong

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2021 71:14


    Amos and Charlene are joined by Dr. Christine Hong, who is a writer, educator, pastor, and practical theologian. She is the author of Decolonial Futures: Intercultural and Interreligious Intelligence for Theological Education, published this year by Lexington Press. Dr. Hong is Associate Professor of Educational Ministry at Columbia Theological Seminary.

    TIC 17 | Dr. Mark Labberton on Cultivating Diverse Relationships, Evangelicalism, and Using the Bible to Defend Whiteness

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2021 67:21


    Amos and Charlene are joined by Dr. Mark Labberton. Labberton is currently serving as the President of Fuller Seminary and has previously served as Senior Pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Berkeley, California. He is committed to strengthening the intersection of the academy, church, and culture. No registration is necessary, and you can participate by watching live at FPC Dallas YouTube, FPC Dallas Facebook, FPC Berkeley YouTube, or FPC Berkeley Facebook. Visit ThisisCrucial.com to learn more.

    TIC 16 | Rev. Dr. Bridgett Green

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2021 61:22


    Charlene Han Powell and Amos Disasa invite you to join them and their guests for monthly conversations that matter enough to make us uncomfortable. No registration is necessary, and you can participate by watching live at FPC Dallas YouTube, FPC Dallas Facebook, FPC Berkeley YouTube, or FPC Berkeley Facebook. Visit ThisisCrucial.com to learn more.

    TIC 15 | Let's Talk About Immigration

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2021


    In this episode of This is Crucial, Rev. Amos Disasa and Rev. Charlene Han Powell talk with Rev. Dr. David Vásquez-Levy, President of the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley, California, about immigration. He regularly contributes a faith perspective to the national conversation on immigration, including speaking at a congressional briefing, participating in two immigration consultations with the Obama White House, and recently engaging in a series of public conversation with various State Attorneys across the country in an effort to reframe our national conversation about immigration. Learn more about This is Crucial on our website at thisiscrucial.com

    TIC 14 | Let's Talk About Minneapolis

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2021


    Citizens of Minneapolis gathered at the courthouse this week to hear the announcement of Derek Chauvin's guilty verdict. Emotions have run high throughout our country as we watched something significant, maybe even historic, take place. Tonight on This is Crucial, we'll be talking about what just happened in Minneapolis. This is Crucial is a podcast with live and interactive recording sessions focused on healing justice and racial equity, hosted by our own Pastor Amos Disasa, and FPC Berkeley's Rev. Dr. Charlene Han Powell. You'll be able to ask questions in the chat and have them answered by our hosts and guest. This week's guest is Rev. Sarah Brouwer, the lead minister at St. Paul's United Church of Christ in St. Paul, Minnesota. Minneapolis is a city that has been on edge for more than a year, and tonight she will share share her on-the-ground perspective, and we will explore what she has discovered is crucial while leading, loving, and learning through our shared struggle for healing justice. Learn more at thisiscrucial.com

    TIC 13 | Let's Talk About Atlanta

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2021


    This is Crucial is a live conversation and podcast focused on healing justice and racial equity. It's about the conversations we are afraid to have, the issues we are scared to address, and the stories we have too long overlooked. Hosted by Amos J. Disasa and Charlene Han Powell, This Is Crucial invites guests and listeners to come with their questions and observations, hopes and heartache. In this episode we will discuss the recent increase of attacks against people of Asian descent. Amos and Charlene will reflect on the mass shooting of 8 people, including 6 women of Asian descent, on Tuesday in Atlanta. Their conversation will be focused especially on why violence against people of Asian descent is often dismissed, how the struggle for justice among minorities can be shared, and what it looks like for followers of Jesus to offer refuge to vulnerable communities. Visit thisiscrucial.com to learn more, and to register for an After the Conversation small discussion group.

    TIC 12 | Rev. Marcus Ingram, PhD

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2021


    Rev. Marcus Ingram joins Amos and Charlene this week

    TIC 11 | Rev. Dr. Charlene Han Powell

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2021


    Rev. Dr. Charlene Han Powell joins Amos to have a crucial conversation

    TIC 10 | Wil McCall

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2021


    Will McCall joins the podcast

    TIC 9 | The Dallas Police Department

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2020


    The Dallas Police Department joins the podcast

    TIC 8 | Rev. Sharon Risher

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2020


    Sharon Risher joins the podcast

    TIC 7 | Jim Schutze

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2020


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    TIC 6 | Dr. Brad Braxton

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2020


    This is Crucial is a monthly conversation on healing justice and racial equity, and an opportunity to learn from a rotating guest list of experts as they sit down with Senior Pastor, Rev. Amos J. Disasa, to discuss this important, and sometimes uncomfortable, topic.

    TIC 5 | Antoine Joyce

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2020


    This is Crucial is a monthly conversation on healing justice and racial equity, and an opportunity to learn from a rotating guest list of experts as they sit down with Senior Pastor, Rev. Amos J. Disasa, to discuss this important, and sometimes uncomfortable, topic. Learn more at thisiscrucial.com

    TIC 4 | Rev. Amy Miracle

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2020


    Amos interviews Rev. Amy Miracle

    TIC 3 | Dr. Evelyn L. Parker

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2020


    Dr. Evelyn L. Parker joins Amos for a crucial conversation about race

    TIC 2 | Ron Kirk

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2020


    An interview with Ron Kirk

    TIC 1 | Rev. Dr. Alton B. Pollard III

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2020


    Crucial Conversations kick off with an interview with Rev. Dr. Alton B. Pollard III

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