Podcasts about serial killer whisperer

Criminologist Laura Brand shares some more recordings of her sessions with Toolbox Killer Laurence Bittaker. She also shares an interesting recording with serial killer Wayne Adam Ford who gives a pretty accurate psychological profile of Laurence Bittaker who he lived on death row with. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

CRIMINOLOGIST LAURA BRAND SHARES SOME MORE OF HER MANY HOURS OF AUDIO RECORDINGS WITH TOOLBOX KILLER LAURENCE BITTAKER. TODAY'S RECORDINGS REVEAL LAURA'S EARLY INTERVIEWS WHERE BITTAKER PLAYS MIND GAMES WITH HER, BUT SHE TACTFULLY STEERS THE KILLER BACK INTO CONVERSATION AND HE STARTS GIVING UP INFORMATION AS TO HIS TACTICS AND MOTIVATION FOR KILLING. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

LAURA BRAND REVEALS MORE OF HER PRIVATE INTERVIEW SESSIONS WITH TOOLBOX KILLER LAURENCE BITTAKER. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ACCORDING TO LAURA'S INTERVIEWS WITH BITTAKER, THERE WAS A GROUP OF OFFENDERS THAT HUNG OUT TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THESE PLANS TO KILL PEOPLE. ONE OF THE MEN WAS NAMED RICHARD SHUPMAN. LAURA CORRESPONDED WITH SHUPMAN UP UNTIL HE DIED IN 2020 NOT TOO LONG AFTER BITTAKER AND NORRIS. TODAY LAURA IS GOING TO SHARE SOME OF THE LETTER HE WROTE TO LAURA. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

WHEN LAURA BRAND FIRST STEP INTO SAN QUENTIN'S DEATH ROW TO MEET WITH LAURENCE BITTAKER, SHE KNEW SHE HAD TO GAIN HIS TRUST IN ORDER TO GET HIM TO RELEASE INFORMATION ABOUT THE VICTIMS HE MURDERED THAT ARE STILL MISSING. AFTER A FEW YEARS, BITTAKER GAVE LAURA POWER OF ATTORNEY AND RELEASED THE DISCOVERY FILES IN HIS CASE. THIS WAS A MAJOR VICTORY FOR LAURA AND THE VICTIM'S FAMILIES. TODAY LAURA WILL BE GOING THROUGH SOME OF THAT EVIDENCE FOR THE FIRST TIME. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT SOME OF THE WORLD'S MOST NOTORIOUS KILLERS MAY ACTUALLY BE RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER? CINDY BERTRAND FLORES IS A GENETIC GENEOLOGIST WHO HAS BEEN HELPING PEOPLE CONNECT WITH FAMILY MEMBERS ACROSS THE GLOBE…CINDY HAS BUILT THOUSANDS OF FAMILY TREES TO TRACE ANCESTRY… ACCORDING TO CINDY'S RESEARCH LAWRENCE BITTAKER, ROY NORRIS, TED BUNDY, CHARLES MANSON, THE CANDYMAN, BTK, THE NIGHTSTALKER, JACK THE RIPPER HH HOLMES ARE JUST A FEW WHO SHARE THE SAME FAMILY TREES…WHAT?? THEY SHARE THE SAME TREE!! ROB AND I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT SHE WAS SHOWING US… https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SERIAL KILLING DUOS BEGAN POPPING UP AROUND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN THE 70'S AND 80'S…THE TOOLBOX KILLERS, THE SPEEDFREAK KILLERS, LEONARD LAKE AND CHARLES NG… AND THE SUNSET STRIP KILLERS DOUGLAS CLARK AND CAROL BUNDY. DOUG AND CAROL WERE INVOLVED IN A SICK AND TWISTED GAME OF DEVIANT BEHAVIOR AND MURDER. THEY WERE EVENTUALLY CAUGHT AFTER CAROL ADMITTED THE CRIMES TO A CO-WORKER. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HEAR AN INTERVIEW THAT MIKE MCNAMARA CONDUCTED WITH CAROL BUNDY FROM PRISON. IT'S NOT VERY OFTEN WE DIVE INTO TO A FEMALE SERIAL KILLER…IT'S A CHILLING INTERVIEW AND LAURA IS GOING TO UNPACK IT FOR US. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SERIAL KILLER DOUGLAS CLARK DIED THIS PAST YEAR INSIDE SAN QUENTIN.  BEFORE HE DIED LAURA AND US RECORDED AN INTERVIEW WITH HIM WHERE HE ADMITTED TO BEING INVOLVED WITH ONE OF THE MANY MURDERS HE COMMITTED WITH CAROL BUNDY DURING IN THE EARLY 80'S. BUT DOUG NOT ONLY TALKED TO LAURA WHILE ON DEATH ROW.  DOUG TALKED TO ANYONE WHO WOULD LISTEN TO HIM AS HE CONTINUED TO PLEAD HIS INNOCENCE IN THE MURDERS THAT HE WAS CONVICTED OF WITH CAROL BUNDY.  FOR 4 YEARS DAVID AND DAWN COOP SPOKE TO DOUGLAS CLARK ON A DAILY BASIS WHEN THEY BECAME INTERESTED IN SERIAL KILLERS FROM THE 70'S AND 80'S IN THE LOS ANGLES AREA. THEY WANTED TO WHY THERE WERE SO MANY AT THAT TIME AND WHY DID THEY LIVE SO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER…. WAS THERE A CONNECTION??? https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ON TODAYS PODCAST, WE CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION WITH AN AMAZING WOMAN AND CRUSADER FOR JUSTICE GLORIA BOBERTZ.  AT LEAST FIVE VICTIMS WENT MISSING OR WERE FOUND KILLED NEAR THE WASHINGTON/IDAHO BORDER BETWEEN 1979 AND 1982. GLORIA, WHO IS THE COUSIN OF ONE OF THE  VICTIMS, KRISTINA NELSON, HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING WHO KILLED KRISTINA FOR FIVE DECADES.  SHE IS ALSO INVESTIGATING THE MURDERS OF BRANDY MILLER, STEVEN PEARSALL, CHRISTINA WHITE, AND KRISTIN DAVID. GLORIA BELIEVES ALL OF THE MURDERS WERE COMMITTED BY ONE MAN WHO LIVED IN THE AREA WHO FITS THE PROFILE AND SHE IS HOT ON HIS TRAIL. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AT LEAST FIVE VICTIMS WENT MISSING OR WERE FOUND KILLED NEAR THE WASHINGTON/IDAHO BORDER BETWEEN 1979 AND 1982. KRISTINA NELSON WAS 21 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE WAS LAST SEEN.  BRANDY MILLER WAS 18 WHEN SHE WAS LAST SEEN.  STEVEN PEARSALL WAS 35 WHEN HE WAS LAST SEEN.  THE TWO GIRLS WERE FOUND DEAD 18 MONTHS LATER 35 MILES AWAY.  STEVEN PEARSALL WAS NEVER FOUND. A COUPLE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, A SCHOOLGIRL, CHRISTINA WHITE, VANISHED IN ASOTIN, WASHINGTON AND TWO YEARS LATER, THE DISMEMBERED BODY OF KRISTIN DAVID WAS FOUND ON THE SNAKE RIVER. ALL OF THESE BRUTAL MURDERS HAVE NOT BEEN SOLVED EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A STRONG PERSON OF INTEREST, BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS AT AN IMPASSE IN THE CASE. TODAY WE HAVE GLORIA BOBERTZ ON THE PODCAST TO HEAR HER AMAZING STORY OF LOOKING FOR ANSWERS TO THE MURDERS AND HUNTING DOWN A SERIAL KILLER. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

HOW WOULD YOU REACT IF YOU DISCOVERED THAT YOUR FAMILY MEMBER THAT YOU HAVE KNOWN ALL YOUR LIFE WAS A SERIAL KILLER… NOT JUST ANY SERIAL KILLER, BUT ONE OF THE TOOLBOX KILLERS…. ROY NORRIS. DANELLE SODERLING WAS JUST 6-YEARS-OLD WHEN SHE RECOGNIZED THAT HER OLDER FIRST COUSIN ROY NORRIS HAD A DARK SIDE TO HIM. CALL IT RAW INTUITION, CALL IT INSTINCT TO ALERT YOU FROM DANGER, BUT YOUNG DANELLE KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH HER COUSIN ROY…. AND SHE WAS RIGHT. TODAY WE HAVE DANELLE ON THE PODCAST ALONG WITH LAURA TO HEAR HER SIDE OF THE STORY AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR HER FAMILY WHEN THEY ALL DISCOVERED THAT THEY HAD A SERIAL KILLER IN THEIR FAMILY. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

RICHARD COTTINGHAM WAS KNOWN AS THE TORSO KILLER AND THE TIMES SQUARE RIPPER.   HE WAS CONVICTED IN NEW YORK OF SIX MURDERS COMMITTED BETWEEN 1972 AND 1980 AND CONVICTED IN NEW JERSEY OF TWELVE MURDERS COMMITTED BETWEEN 1967 AND 1978.  COTTINGHAM IS BELIEVED TO HAVE COMMITTED AT LEAST 80 MURDERS IN THE UNITED STATES. TODAY WE ARE BACK TALKING WITH PETER VRONSKI A CANADIAN AUTHOR, FILMMAKER, AND FORENSIC HISTORIAN.  HE HOLDS A PHD IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE HISTORY AND ESPIONAGE.  HE ALONG WITH JENNIFER WEISS, THE DAUGHTER OF COTTINGHAM'S LATER VICTIMS, WERE ABLE TO EXTRACT MORE CONFESSIONS FROM COTTINGHAM ABOUT HIS MURDERS. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THE WORK THAT LAURA BRAND DOES WITH SERIAL KILLERS IS A SOLITARY OCCUPATION.  MOST OF THE TIME IT'S JUST LAURA SITTING IN THE CAGE ALONE WITH THE WORLD'S WORST HUMAN BEINGS.  LET'S BE HONEST, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS AND LAURA DOES RUN INTO THEM OCCASIONALLY. PETER VRONSKI IS A CANADIAN AUTHOR, FILMMAKER, AND FORENSIC HISTORIAN.  HE HOLDS A PHD IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE HISTORY AND ESPIONAGE.  BUT WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT HIM, LIKE LAURA, IS THAT HE HAS BEEN TALKING TO THE TORSO KILLER, RICHARD COTTINGHAM, TO EXTRACT INFORMATION ABOUT HIS MISSING VICTIMS. TODAY IS PART ONE OF OUR TWO PART INTERVIEW WITH DR. PETER VRONSKI, WHO BY HIS OWN ADMISSION NEVER THOUGHT HE'D EVER BE MEETING SERIAL KILLERS LET ALONE TALKING TO THEM.  SO LETS HERE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THIS WILL BE PARTNERS IN TRUE CRIME'S 100TH EPISODE!!! THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. TODAY CRIMINOLOGIST LAURA BRAND AND US WILL BE TALKING WITH RENOWNED DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND FORMER PRESIDENT OF CRIME VICTIMS UNITED NINA SALERNO. NINA, LIKE LAURA, IS THE VICTIM OF A HOMICIDE IN HER LIFE. WHEN NINA WAS 13-YEARS-OLD, HER SISTER WAS BRUTALLY EXECUTED BY HER EX-BOYFRIEND DURING HER FIRST YEAR IN COLLEGE. IT WAS THAT HORRIC EVENT THAT LED TO NINA'S MOTHER TO START CRIME VICTIMS UNITED WHICH ASSISTS VICTIM'S FAMILIES BOTH LEGALLY AND POLITICALLY TO MAKE SURE THEIR RIGHTS ARE BEING UPHELD AND THAT THE KILLERS ARE PUNISHED APPROPRIATELY. NINA HAS JOINED FORCES WITH LAURA TO FIGHT FOR THE VICTIMS OF THESE AWFUL HOMICIDES. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

LAURA HAS BEEN INTERVIEWING WILLIAM SUFF (LAKE ELSINORE KILLER & RIVERSIDE PROSTITUTE KILLER) FOR 10 YEARS TO GET INFORMATION ON HIS MISSING VICTIMS. ABOUT A MONTH AGO A WOMAN REACHED OUT TO US AND TOLD US THAT HER SISTER HAD BEEN MARRIED TO WILLIAM SUFF'S BROTHER DONNIE AND THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THE STORY. HER NAME IS HEATHER AND SHE IS SPEAKING WITH US TODAY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TODAY LAURA IS GOING TO SHARE WITH US SOME OTHER INTERVIEWS SHE RECORDED WITH SOME OF PEOPLE THAT HUNG OUT AT THE SCOTT HOTEL WITH BITTAKER AND NORRIS. VALERIA MIERO AND ELIZABETH TORRES WERE IN THEIR EARLY TEENAGE YEARS WHEN THEY STARTED HANGING OUT AT THE SCOTT HOTEL WITH BITTAKER AND NORRIS.  LIKE MOST OF THE TEENAGERS THAT SPENT TIME THERE, THEY WERE JUST LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO HANGOUT TO ESCAPE FROM THEIR TROUBLED HOME LIVES. BITTAKER AND NORRIS KNEW JUST HOW TO ENTICE THE TEENAGERS WITH DRUGS, ALCOHOL, AND A PLACE FOR THEM TO PRETEND TO BE ADULTS.  IT EVENTUALLY BECAME A BREEDING GROUND FOR THEIR VICTIMS. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HEAR VALERIA AND ELIZABETH'S LAST WORDS ABOUT THAT AWFUL TIME IN THEIR LIVES AND IT'S QUITE REVEALING.  UNFORTUNATELY, VALERIA AND ELIZABETH ARE NO LONGER WITH US, BUT THEIR WORDS WILL LIVE ON. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ AD: https://amzn.to/3vNILuE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TODAY WE ARE GOING BACK INTO CRIMINOLOGIST LAURA BRAND'S ARCHIVES TO HEAR MORE OF THE RECORDED INTERVIEWS THAT SHE DID EARLY ON WITH THE TOOLBOX KILLER LAURENCE BITTAKER. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ #AD https://amzn.to/4cMzALJ #AD https://amzn.to/3vNILuE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Criminologist Laura Brand started her research on serial killers by interviewing Toolbox Killer Laurence Bittaker for 4 long years. In that time she accumulated hundreds of hours of recordings with him as she peeled away the layers of his mind to find out why and what made him kill. Today we will be analyzing some never before heard recordings of their conversations and discuss with Laura what her thoughts were as she spoke this monster. https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THIS WEEK WE ARE DOING THE PODCAST ON LOCATION FROM LEONARD LAKE AND CHARLES NG'S MURDER HOUSE IN THE MOUNTAINS OF CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. IN HER INTENSIVE INTERVIEWS WITH CHARLES NG, CHARLES RECENTLY REVEALED A LOCATION OF ONE OF HIS VICTIMS PAUL COSNER. SO WE TRAVELED TO THE MURDER HOUSE AND WILL BE SPENDING THE WEEKEND SCOURING OVER THE HOUSE AND IT'S GROUNDS FOR CLUES AS TO WHERE PAUL'S REMAINS MIGHT BE. FOR MORE INFORMATION ON OUR PODCASTS AND OTHER CONTENT GO TO OUR BLOG: https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THIS WEEK WE ARE GOING TO SHARE TOUCHING YET TRADGIC INTERVIEW THAT LAURA DID LAST YEAR WITH ONE OF BITTAKER AND NORRIS SURVIVORS. TINA FORCONI WAS A TEENAGER LIVING IN BURBANK WHO WAS A PART OF GROUP OF TEENS THAT HUNG OUT NEAR THE SCOTT HOTEL WHERE BITTAKER HAD A ROOM. BITTAKER WOULD ENTICE THE TEENAGERS LOOKING TO PARTY BY BUYING THEM ALCOHOL AND GIVING THEM DRUGS.  WE'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW PEOPLE ALREADY ON THE PODCAST WHO HUNG OUT NEAR BITTAKER'S PLACE. TINA ALWAYS HAD HER BOYFRIEND BY HER SIDE WHENEVER SHE WAS NEAR BITTAKER, WHICH ANNOYED BITTAKER. LAURA FOUND TINA THROUGH BITTAKER'S OWN PERSONAL CASE FILES.  AT FIRST, LIKE THE OTHER SURVIVORS, TINA WAS HESISTANT, BUT AFTER THEY MET FACE TO FACE THEY BECAME ALLIES TO FIND THE MISSING VICTIMS. THE INTERVIEW YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAR WAS RECORDED JUST PRIOR TO TINA'S PASSING JUNE OF 2023.   HER WORDS LIVE ON. CHECK OUT OUR BLOG FOR MORE INFORMATION ON OUR PODCASTS AND OTHER TRUE CRIME CASES: https://partnersintruecrimeblog.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THIS WEEK LAURA BRAND HEADS BACK INSIDE THE CAGE WITH CHARLES NG, BUT THIS TIME SHE BRINGS SOME BACK UP. PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND BOUNTY HUNTER ROB DICK WHO HAS BEEN MEETING WITH WESLEY SHERMANTINE (ONE OF THE SPEED FREAK KILLERS) FOR 20 YEARS, ASSISTS LAURA INSIDE THE CAGE WITH CHARLES NG TO TRY TO GET INFORMATION FROM HIM ABOUT SOME OF HIS MISSING VICTIMS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SAN QUENTIN IS CLOSING DEATH ROW AND MOVING SERIAL KILLERS TO OTHER PRISONS. LAURA BRAND HAS BEEN UP THERE FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH OF FEBRUARY RACING AGAINST THE CLOCK TO HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH THE SERIAL KILLERS BEFORE THEY ARE MOVED. SHE IS WORKING ON COLD CASES FOR HOMICIDE DEPARTMENTS TO HELP FIND MISSING VICTIMS. THIS WEEK WE CATCH UP WITH HER AFTER SHE JUST MET WITH NOTORIOUS SERIAL KILLER CHARLES NG WHO HAS BEEN THREATENING TO LAURA BECAUSE SHE WAS REFUSING TO GET IN THE CAGE WITH NG FOR HIS INTERVIEW. LAURA HAS A GOOD REASON TO BE CAUTIOUS. SEVERAL OF THE OTHER SERIAL KILLERS SHE DOES INTERVIEWS WITH HAVE WARNED LAURA THAT CHARLES NG HAS BEEN SAYING SOME THREATENING THINGS ABOUT LAURA INSIDE THE PRISON. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE LAURA ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT LISTENERS HAVE SENT IN ABOUT LAWRENCE BITTAKER AND ROY NORRIS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THE SADISTIC KILLING SPREE OF LAWRENCE BITTAKER AND ROY NORRIS ENDED WITH THE TRAGIC MURDER OF 16-YEAR-OLD LYNETTE LEDFORD ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT IN 1979. TODAY WE WILL TALK TO A CHILDHOOD FRIEND OF LYNETTE LEDFORD WHO HAS THE SAME FIRST NAME. LYNETTE SHIRER WAS AN 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHO LOOKED UP TO LYNETTE LEDFORD AND BECAME FRIENDS WITH HER A YEAR BEFORE SHE WAS MURDERED. SHE REVEALS WHAT AN AMAZING YOUNG WOMAN LYNETTE WAS AND TO THIS DAY SHE CRIES AT THE THOUGHT OF HER BRUTAL DEMISE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ROB DICK IS A BOUNTY HUNTER WITH OVER 30 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. ROB HAS BECOME PASSIONATE ABOUT MISSING VICTIMS AND HE IS DOING WORK THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT LAURA BRAND DOES. ROB HAS AN IMPRESSIVE RESUME WORKING ON HIGH PROFILE CASE SUCH AS THE CASEY ANTHONY CASE AND THE SPEED FREAK KILLERS WESLEY SHERMANTINE AND LOREN HERZOG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TODAY WE ARE REPORTING LIVE FROM SAN QUENTIN DEATH ROW. THIS IS HISTORY IN THE MAKING BECAUSE WE ARE WITNESSING THE DISMANTLING OF THE COUNTRY'S LARGEST DEATH ROW POPULATION. BY THE END OF FEBRUARY 2024 DEATH ROW WILL BE NO MORE AND THE INMATES WHO ARE SERVING DEATH ROW SENTENCES WILL BE DISPERSED TO OTHER PRISONS AROUND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. TODAY WE WILL ALSO BE TALKING TO JAMES MARLOW "THE WOLF OF FOLSOM" WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 5 MURDERS IN 1986. HE WAS CONVICTED ALONG SIDE HIS GIRLFRIEND CYNTHIA COFFMAN, WHO ALSO RECEIVED THE DEATH PENALTY. JAMES GIVES A BRUTALLY CANDID INTERVIEW ABOUT HIS CRIMES, THE ELECTRO SHOCK THERAPY THAT HE RECEIVED INSIDE THE PRISON, AND ALSO REVEALS TO THE WORLD A STATEMENT ABOUT HIS GIRLFRIEND THAT WILL SURPRISE EVERYONE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

KITTI MCDOWELL VANDAHLEN WAS JUST A TEENAGER WHEN HER DEAR FRIEND JACKIE GILLIAM WAS MURDERED BY LAWRENCE BITTAKER AND ROY NORRIS IN THE LATE 1970'S. KITTI STILL VIVIDLY REMEMBERS WHAT A BEAUTIFUL AND HAPPY PERSON JACKIE WAS JUST LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. KITTI SHARES HER THOUGHTS ON THE TRAGIC EVENT THAT EFFECTED HER LIFE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

IN PART 1 OF OUR INTERVIEW WITH CARLO DOUGLAS REVEALED HIS INTIMATE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOOLBOX KILLER LAWRENCE BITTAKER WHILE BEEN LOCKED UP IN THE SAME TIER INSIDE LA COUNTY JAIL.  IT WAS THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT LED TO CARLO TESTIFYING AGAINST BITTAKER IN OPEN COURT TO SECURE HIS DEATH SENTENCE.  IN PART 2 OF OUR INTERVIEW WITH CARLO, HE REVEALS TO LAURA SOME OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE BITTAKER BRAGGED ABOUT DUMPING SOME OF HIS VICTIM'S REMAINS THAT THE POLICE HAVE NEVER SEARCH FOR. DUE TO THE SENSITIVITY OF THIS INFORMATION, WE WILL BE BLEEPING OUT SOME OF THE LOCATIONS OF THESE PLACES OUT OF RESPECT OF THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. ACCORDING TO CARLO, BITTAKER TOLD HIM THAT THERE ARE MANY MORE VICTIMS OUT THERE.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THIS WEEK WE HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH CARLO DOUGLAS WHO WAS THE KEY WITNESS IN THE TRIAL AGAINST BITTAKER AND NORRIS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN 40 YEARS THAT HE'S SPEAKING PUBLICLY ABOUT HIS TESTIMONY. CARLO WAS 19 YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED FOR MURDER. AFTER HIS CONVICTION HE WAS HOUSED IN LA COUNTY JAIL'S HIGH POWER WING NEXT TO LAWRENCE BITTAKER. BITTAKER, BEFRIENDED THE YOUNG MAN AND BRAGGED TO CARLO ABOUT ALL OF THE MURDERS AND THE GORY DETAILS. CARLO DIDN'T BELIEVE HIM UNTIL THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE MET WITH HIM AND TOLD CARLO THAT EVERYTHING THAT BITTAKER HAD TOLD HIM WAS TRUE. CARLO, WITH NOTHING TO GAIN AND A LONG PRISON SENTENCE AWAITING HIM PUT HIS LIFE IN JEOPARDY AND TESTIFIED IN OPEN COURT AGAINST BITTAKER WHICH SECURED A DEATH SENTENCE FOR THE TOOLBOX KILLER. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOR THE PAST DECADE, LAURA HAS BEEN INTERACTING WITH THE SERIAL OFFENDERS ON SAN QUENTINS DEATH ROW AND OTHER PRISONS AROUND THE COUNTRY TO INTERVIEW THEM, STUDY THEM, BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM SO THEY TRUST HER ENOUGH TO GIVE HER INFORMATION ABOUT MISSING VICTIMS WHO LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO RELEASE AN AUDIO RECORDING OF LAWRENCE BITTAKER IN THE DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH TO ILLUSTRATE LAURA'S METHODOLOGY. WE WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS RECORDING: WE ARE NOT EMPATHIZING WITH LAWRENCE BITTAKER FOR THE HORRIFIC CRIMES THAT HE COMMITTED. OUR EMPATHY HAS ALWAYS AND WILL ALWAYS BE WITH THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE DO FEEL THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE INNER WORKINGS OF THESE SERIAL KILLERS AS A SOCIETY TO START MAKING CHANGES. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

IN 1979, 16-YEAR-OLD CYNDE AND 17-YEAR-OLD JINA WERE BEST FRIENDS LIVING IN BURBANK, CA... THEY DID EVERYTHING TOGETHER. THEY LIVED DOWN THE STREET FROM THE SCOTT MOTEL AND EVERYDAY THEY WALKED TO SCHOOL TOGETHER PAST THE MOTEL. WHAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WAS THAT THE TOOLBOX KILLERS, LAURENCE BITTAKER AND ROY NORRIS WERE LIVING AT THE SCOTT MOTEL STALKING YOUNG WOMEN TRYING TO DECIDE WHO WAS GOING TO BE THEIR NEXT VICTIM. CYNDE AND JINA WERE SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT THE MEN WHO WERE HARASSING THEM WERE ACTUALLY TWO OF THE MOST SADISTIC SERIAL KILLERS IN THE HISTORY. WHY WERE THEY SPARED? WAS IT FATE OR DID THEIR INTUITION SAVE THEM? CYNDE AND JINA ARE HERE TO TODAY TO TELL THEIR STORY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ANDY KAHAN IS THE DIRECTOR OF VICTIM SERVICES AND ADVOCACY AT CRIMESTOPPERS HOUSTON AND HE IS A BOARD MEMBER OF TEXAS EQUUSEARCH A NON-PROFIT THAT ASSISTS IN FINDING VICTIMS REMAINS THAT WERE A RESULT OF VIOLENT CRIMES. ANDY AND LAURA BRAND MET AT CRIMECON AND QUICKLY REALIZED THAT THEY COULD HELP EACH OTHER IN THEIR QUESTS TO BRING SOME CLOSURE TO VICTIMS FAMILIES. CINDY SCHAEFER AND ANDREA HALL WERE TWO YOUNG GIRLS WHO WERE ABDUCTED AND MURDERED BY THE TOOLBOX KILLERS IN 1979. ACCORDING TO EXTENSIVE INTERVIEWS THAT LAURA HAD WITH LAURENCE BITTAKER, THE BRAINS BEHIND THE TOOLBOX KILLERS, BOTH YOUNG GIRLS WERE TOSSED INTO A RAVINE IN THE SAN GABRIEL MOUNTAINS IN 1979 NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN. LAURA AND ANDY ALONG WITH THE PARTNERS IN TRUE CRIME TEAM PLAN ON GOING TO THOSE MOUNTAINS TO SEARCH FOR THEM. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

IN THE 1970'S AND 1980'S LOS ANGELES WAS A HUNTING GROUND FOR SERIAL KILLERS, THE NIGHTSTALKER, THE  HILLSIDE STRANGLER AND THE TOOL BOX KIILLERS. THERE WERE NO CELLPHONES, PEOPLE OFTEN HITCHIKED ALONG THE CALIFORNIA ROADS AND THE AREAS AROUND LOS ANGELES WERE NOT AS POPULATED AS THEY ARE NOW. LAURA'S WORK WITH THE TOOL BOX KILLER HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON GETTING INFORMATION FROM BITTAKER ABOUT OTHER VICTIMS WHO MIGHT STILL BE MISSING SO SHE CAN HELP RETRIEVE THOSE VICTIMS AND BRING THEM HOME TO THE FAMILIES…. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF WOMEN WHO HAVE HAD RUN INS WITH THESE SERIAL KILLERS AS TEENAGERS AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT. IMAGINE LOOKING BACK ON YOUR TEENAGE YEARS AND REALIZING THAT YOU HAD BEEN INCHES AWAY FROM BECOMING A VICTIM OF A SERIAL KILLER? WELL TODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO TAMMY DUNN , SHE WAS A TEENAGER IN VENTURA COUNTY RIGHT OUTSIDE OF LOS ANGELES IN THE LATE 70'S AND SHE HAS A CHILLING STORY OF HOW SHE CROSSED PATHS WITH ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST NOTORIOUS SERIAL KILLERS AND LIVED TO TELL ABOUT IT. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

IN THE 10 YEARS OF LAURA BRAND'S RESEARCH SHE HAS DISCOVERED MOUNTAINS OF INFORMATION ON SERIAL KILLERS CASES THAT REVEAL ADDITIONAL VICTIMS, WITNESSES, AND EVIDENCE TO WHERE MISSING REMAINS COULD BE FOUND. THREE YEARS AGO, LAURA STUMBLED ON SOMEONE WHO LAURENCE BITTAKER SHARED DETAILS OF HIS BRUTAL MURDERS TO WHILE INCARCERATED IN LA COUNTY JAIL AFTER HIS ARREST.  IN THE LATE 70'S ANTHONY CONJEJO, WAS A 26 YEAR OLD WHO WAS HOUSED WITH BITTAKER IN LA COUNTY JAIL FOR BANK ROBBERY AND MURDER. THE INFORMATION THAT ANTHONY TOLD LAURA NOT ONLY SOLIDIFIED WHAT SHE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT BITTAKER, BUT SHE ALSO LEARNED OF SOME NEW MURDERS THAT BITTAKER AND NORRIS COMMITTED THAT WERE NOT EVEN LOOKED AT. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TAKE YOU INSIDE A CALIFORNIA STATE PRISON WHERE ANTHONY IS STILL SERVING TIME FOR HIS CRIMES TO HEAR WHAT BITTAKER TOLD HIM AND HOW ANTHONY EVENTUALLY TESTIFIED AGAINST THE TOOL BOX KILLER IN AN EFFORT TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR HIS PAST CRIMES. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TODAY'S EPISODE WE WILL BE TALKING TO LINDA HOLTZ WHO WAS A FRIEND AND CLASSMATE OF LYNETTE LEDFORD WHO WAS ONE OF LAURENCE BITTAKER AND ROY NORRIS' VICTIMS. ON HALLOWEEN IN 1979 LYNETTE LADFORD WAS DROPPED OFF BY FRIENDS AT A GAS STATION NOT FAR FROM HER HOUSE IN SHADOW HILLS, CALIFORNIA.  SHE WAS THEN PICKED UP BY BITTAKER AND NORRIS.  THE NEXT MORNING, SHE WAS FOUND WITHOUT CLOTHES BRUTALLY MURDERED IN SOMEONE'S IVY BED IN THEIR FRONT YARD. ACCORDING TO LAURA, BITTAKER NEVER DISPUTED WHAT HE AND NORRIS DID TO LYNETTE, IN FACT, THEY MADE AN AUDIO RECORDING OF LYNETTE SUFFERING WHILE THEY KILLED HER, WHICH TO THIS DAY IS USED TO TRAIN FBI AGENTS TO DESENSITIZE THEM TO HORRIC EXPERIENCES. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

WHEN LAURA BRAND FIRST EMBARKED ON THE JOURNEY TO GET INSIDE OF THE MINDS OF SERIAL KILLERS TO HELP FIND THE REMAINS OF THEIR VICTIMS, SHE REACHED OUT TO OTHER PROFESSIONALS IN THE FIELD FOR GUIDANCE. ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WAS DR. ALLAN PASS. DR. PASS HAS A WELL DOCUMENTED HISTORY IN FORENSIC MENTAL HEALTH AS WELL BEING AN EXPERT WITNESS FOR BOTH DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND THE PROSECUTION SINCE 1973. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

KRISTIN MESSINGER WAS A FUN LOVING TEENAGER LIVING IN A BEACH COMMUNITY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHEN SHE DECIDED TO GET INTO A CAR WITH ROY NORRIS (ONE OF THE TOOLBOX KILLERS). WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT WAS A LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE THAT CHANGED HER FOREVER. LAURA, REVEALS TO KRISTIN WHAT THE KILLERS TOLD HER ABOUT THAT DAY SHE GOT AWAY AND HOW HER LIFE WAS IMPACTED BY THIS INCREDIBLE NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DOUGLAS CLARK WAS AN AMERICAN SERIAL KILLER AND NECROPHILE. CLARK AND HIS ACCOMPLICE, CAROL BUNDY WERE KNOWN AS THE SUNSET SLAYERS AND WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST SEVEN PEOPLE ALTHOUGH OFFICIALS AND LAURA BRAND BELIEVES THERE ARE MORE. LAURA HAS HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CLARK DURING HER STUDY AND JUST BEFORE HE DIED ON OCTOBER 11, 2023 HE RELEASE ALL OF HIS CASE FILES TO LAURA AND ADMITTED HIS PART IN THE MURDERS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

WHEN LAURA BRAND STARTED TO GET FULL COOPERATION FROM LAURENCE BITTAKER INSIDE SAN QUENTIN'S DEATH ROW HE GAVE HER FULL ACCESS TO HIS DISCOVERY CASE FILES. IN THOSE FILES, LAURA STARTED TO DISCOVER OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAME IN CONTACT WITH THE TOOLBOX KILLERS, BUT WEREN'T BRUTALLY MURDERED... BUT WHY DID THEY KILL SOME AND NOT OTHERS. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT. DENA MOODY WAS A TEENAGER WHO WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO MANAGED TO SURVIVE THE TOOLBOX KILLERS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10 years ago, criminologist and private detective, Laura Brand embarked on a journey to study the most notorious serial killers in the United States by sitting face to face with them inside a cage. Her goal was to not only learn what made them kill, but to also find the remaining victims that were not part of their convictions... And there are still many out there. Over 50 serial killers participated in her study and continue to do so, but it all started with Laurence Bittaker "The Tool Box Killer." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A young law student called Ashely is the first to read Driskill's letter and becomes obsessed with his story. The Innocence Project of Texas take his case and begin working to find evidence that could clear his name. Chammah hunts down crucial leads throwing serious doubt on the informant's story and on the forensic sketch that led Holland to Driskill in the first place. Holland's star, though, is still rising. He takes on a case that will make him famous, drawing dozens of confessions from America's most prolific serial killer, Samuel Little. Subscribe to The Binge to get all episodes of Smoke Screen ad-free right now. Click ‘Subscribe' at the top of the Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. A Somethin' Else, The Marshall Project & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A young law student called Ashely is the first to read Driskill's letter and becomes obsessed with his story. The Innocence Project of Texas take his case and begin working to find evidence that could clear his name. Chammah hunts down crucial leads throwing serious doubt on the informant's story and on the forensic sketch that led Holland to Driskill in the first place. Holland's star, though, is still rising. He takes on a case that will make him famous, drawing dozens of confessions from America's most prolific serial killer, Samuel Little. Subscribe to The Binge to get all episodes of Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry ad-free right now. Click ‘Subscribe' at the top of the Smoke Screen show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. A Somethin' Else, The Marshall Project & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Texas Ranger James  Holland is celebrated as the ‘serial killer whisperer,' solving dozens  of murders through his legendary interrogation skills. But how far does  he go to get confessions? And has he put innocent  people in prison along the way? Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry  uses shocking police tapes to reveal the psychological drama behind one  murder case, and uncovers something rotten at the heart of the justice  system. Want the  full story? Unlock all episodes of Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry,  ad-free right now by subscribing to The Binge. Plus, get binge access to  brand new stories dropping on the first of  every month — that's all episodes, all at once, all ad-free. Just click  ‘Subscribe' on the top of the Just Say You're Sorry show page on Apple  Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you listen. A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Power Move Episode 43Learn and burn Entrepreneurship from serial entrepreneur John Gafford and his band of mayhem makers. From stripper poles to the oval office, business lessons are everywhere. This Week:OK, Seriously this is some wild stuff. This week we meet Tony Ciaglia, the subject for the best selling book "The Serial Killer Whisperer". Here his incredible tale of going from a brain injured teen, to the trusted confidant of some of America's most notorious serial killers and helping the FBI and local law enforcement solve cold cases. With Tony Ciaglia, Chris Connell and Colt Amidan

Laura Brand is a private investigator known as the “serial killer whisperer." For the last six years, Laura has traveled to San Quentin’s death row to interview Lawrence Bittaker who, along with Roy Norris, were known as the Toolbox Killers – a psychopathic duo known for abducting, raping, and torturing young women in their van they referred to as the "Murder Mac." Both men were convicted of some of the most heinous serial murders in history, but Laura is brave detective working on an important project. Tune in to find out what she's working on. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/websleuthsradiopodcast/message

Laura Jaqueline Brand spends her days being a Private Investigator and her nights Talking to Serial Killers. She's a mindhunter of the modern age. This is the 2nd interview we've done with her and we can't believe all the golden nuggets of information she bestowed on us about the Norris/Bittaker, Tool Box Killers. Next week we wrap up their horrific story. For the entire interview with Laura and others and more inside information, documents and pictures beyond this podcast join us on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/truecrimewives and check out our YouTube channel for our weekly Friday & Sunday true crime discussions and much much more at https://www.youtube.com/c/MurderByDesign Our episodes are edited by Donovan Talbot.Our Music comes from incompetech.com and Composer Kevin MacLeod https:/filmmusic.io "Come Play with Me" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...) "Mysterioso March" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...) "Pop Goes the Weasel" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...) Kevin Macleod Music Credit: Kevin Macleod. --- To Order Your Dispatch Box: https://shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1086964&u=1904014&m=75277&urllink=&afftrack=Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/truecrimewives)

Laura Brand is a forensic psychology practitioner known for her work interviewing serial killers. She's going to be a guest speaker at Crime Con in May 2020 but we've gotten the chance to sit down with her first. Our second season will include lots of amazing interviews and tons of cases. This is the 1st of a 4 part series on the Toolbox Killers, Bittaker and Norris. Laura worked closely with both and she's got some interesting information to share. For more inside information, documents and pictures beyond this podcast join us on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/truecrimewives and check out our YouTube channel for our weekly Sunday true crime discussions and much much more at https://www.youtube.com/c/MurderByDesign Our Music comes from incompetech.com and Composer Kevin MacLeod https:/filmmusic.io "Come Play with Me" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...) "Mysterioso March" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...) "Pop Goes the Weasel" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...) Kevin Macleod Music Credit: Kevin Macleod. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/truecrimewives/messageSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/truecrimewives)

A sneak peek of what we have planned for season 2. Clip-Interview with Serial Killer Whisperer, Laura Brand. Laura will be a guest speaker at Crime Con 2020. We are so happy to get to chat with her. Our Music comes from incompetech.com and Composer Kevin MacLeod https:/filmmusic.io "Evening of Chaos" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/b...)--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/truecrimewives/messageSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/truecrimewives)

Amanda Howard, the Serial Killer Whisperer joins us again to talk about the holes she believes are in the case against Ivan Milat. Amanda corresponds with Milat in jail.Show notes:Your hosts are Meshel Laurie and Emily WebbWith thanks to Amanda Howard.Like us on the Facebook ​Follow us on Instagramor TwitterSupport us on PatreonThank you for listening! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Tony and Al answer questions from listeners regarding Season One of Murder Phone.

Tony and Al go through the many clues that Gore wrote about regarding his trophies. After years of letters Gore eventually gives great directions and draws a map that will lead to the spot where his trophies (scalps and photos) are buried. Tony and Al actually go to this location in 2010 when researching Tony's book.

Tony and Al discuss the timeline of Gore and Waterfield's crimes. Waterfield and his daughters proclaim Fred's innocence. Tony and Al using the timeline and facts of the case shoot holes in Fred's story and why he should never get out of prison.

Tony and Al talk with Angela Hommell as she describes in detail how she was abducted and raped by David Gore and Fred Waterfield. Angela is a true hero and her story will both sadden, and shock you. When you hear the full story about how she was treated after the rape I guarantee it will enrage you. Angela tells us how she literally was raped twice, once by Fred and David and then by law enforcement.

This episode details events that led to Gore's execution. How the information that Tony shared for his book was used without his knowledge to expedite Gore's execution. You will hear the last letters that Gore ever wrote Tony and Tony's responses. This episode will show how David Gore literally talked his way into the execution chamber.

Gore describes one of his early murders from the 1970s. He is feeling the pressure of the push for his execution.

Gore continues to share information with Tony. He agrees to a tell all story about his life and crimes that he and Fred committed but were never charged with. He describes in great detail the murder of one of their first victims. They actually raped and murdered this young girl in David Gore's house.

This episode describes the day that the Killing Cousins were finally caught. Tony and Al will compare descriptions of what happened that day from official accounts , Gore's different written accounts and a recorded interview of the lone survivor.

Gore discusses how many victims he and Fred killed. He also talks about serial killers mindset when it came to their trophies. In a shocking revelation Gore describes why he took scalps as trophies and what he would do with them. During this episode Tony will share a tragic story that we call the Killing of Innocence. Gore describes the rape and brutal murder of two 14 year old hitchhikers that he and Fred had picked up on one of their hunts. The story is so shocking and tragic that it literally will hurt your heart. The description of what they did to these two innocent teenagers led Gore to have his execution date expedited. He literally talked his way into the execution chamber.

David Gore discusses how he took polaroid pictures of his victims and buried them with the scalps he took as trophies. He promises Tony he will draw him a map and give detailed instructions as to where they are buried. While doing investigation for Tony's book The Serial Killer Whisperer Tony comes across a cold case that sounds very similar to a murder that Gore describes in one of his letters. The letter details how he picked up Rose a young Indian girl at a truck stop bar. What Tony discovers is truly a sad story of final closure.

Dr Jim Fallon is a professor of psychiatry and human behavior and emeritus professor of anatomy and neurobiology in the University of California, Irvine School of Medicine. Tony, Al and Jim discuss the question of whether these killers are born evil or are created. The discussion covers many topics related to how and why the brain effects all types of human behavior.

David Gore and Ted Bundy became good friends on Death Row in Florida. Gore sent Tony many letters describing what the friendship was like and the horrific discription of what they would done if they knew each other on the outside. The letters discuss their crimes, Bundy's wife and little girl's visits, and Gore's general impression as to what Ted was like . Tony also covers Ted's claim that pornography led him to do the terrible things he did and at the same time the letters show Gore's surprising response to this. This a rare look at two serial killers bonding on death row and what type of interaction an unholy alliance like this produces.

The interruption of the murder of an innocent women is described in detail. Gore and Waterfield are so upset they decide to kill Fred's mom if it happens again.

Tony Ciaglia along with his dad Co-Host Al Ciaglia will get into the personality of David Gore. Through Gore's early letters the listeners will start to get an idea of the twisted and sick thoughts of this evil killer. These letters will be read without any edits so Gore's words that were written to Tony over 11 years ago will be shared just as he wrote them. The early letters start to tell a horrifying story shared directly from the serial killer. This is a long story with many twists, turns and unexpected results. Tony's commentary based on his 6 year relationship with Gore adds an extra element to this true story.

I am a tramatic Brain Injury Survivor. My family is my biggest support system so in this our first episode and with their help I'd like to tell you my fascinating story of life before and after the accident. We'll talk about how my Brain Injury dramatically changed my life. I will describe in detail my Near Death experience and the choice I was given and how the changes in my life eventually led me to corresponding with some of the most notorious killers in the world. This led to some of these relationships to be documented in the best-selling book “The Serial Killer Whisperer.”

Amanda Howard, the Serial Killer Whisperer joins us again to talk about the holes she believes are in the case against Ivan Milat. Amanda corresponds with Milat in jail. Show notes:Your hosts are Meshel Laurie and Emily WebbWith thanks to Amanda Howard.Amanda's own podcast is called Monsters Who Murder Like us on the Facebook ​Follow us on Instagramor TwitterSupport us on PatreonThank you for listening! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The Hunter Killer Club and The Gun Alley Murder of 1921...Florida couple Deidre Hunt and her boss/lover Konstantinos Fotopoulos committed the shooting murders of two men. One of which was supposed to kill Fotopoulos' wife so they could get the insurance money and the other who threatened to blab to the authorities about a counterfeit money scheme they were involved in. This case has so many ridiculous twists and turns it belongs in a Coen brothers movie!In 1921, in Gun Alley, Melbourne, Australia, a 12 year old girl named Alma Tirtschke was sent by her grandmother to pick up some shopping. However, instead of returning home, she was brutally raped and murdered. The crime shocked the city, and Melbournians were whipped into a frenzy, demanding the culprit be apprehended. A local innkeeper named Colin Ross was questioned and quickly arrested. He was promptly tried and hanged. But was he innocent?Become a Bloody Murder Patron (for as little as $1 per month, which you can cancel at anytime) and have access to dozens of Patron only episodes (including our whole first season!) with new patron only content added every month!Go to https://www.patreon.com/bloodymurderLevels $5 and over go into our monthly merchandise draws and get FREE stickers and hand-made Barney Badges!See our website! bloodymurderpodcast.com for all our social media links, contact details, a gallery, fabulous merchandise (check out our new Bloody Murder SHOES! and now STICKERS and BACKPACKS and DUFFEL BAGS!!) and much much more.Wanna buy us a drink? Here's a donate link.Thanks to Skylar Abdeljalil for supplying this weeks True Crime Nerd Time. It's a review of "The Serial Killer Whisperer" by Pete Earley.True Crime Nerd Time is a new segment on Bloody Murder and it needs your help because it stars you! We want you, our listeners, to submit your recommendations for anything true cime related! It could be books, TV shows, movies, documentaries, exhibitions, graphic novels, art, music etc. So send us your brief story (we’ll read it out) or record your story (it can just be a recording on your phone, and we’ll play it!). We will also publish it on our website. Keep it to about 2 mins please or 200 words. Email here! bloodymurderpodcast@gmail.com. Oh and if you give us your postal address we'll send you some stickers as a reward! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Amanda Howard is known around the traps as a serial killer whisperer. On any given day she could receive mail, on prison issued stationery from one of Australia’s most feared men, an internationally-hated baby killer, or one of America’s seemingly limitless numbers of death row inmates.Show notes:Your hosts are Meshel Laurie and Emily WebbWith thanks to Amanda HowardLike us on the Facebook ​Follow us on Instagram or TwitterSupport us on PatreonIf you have any information on the cases covered by this podcast, please contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.Thank you for listening! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Amanda Howard is an Australian author who has been writing to incarcerated serial killers for 25 years. A true crime writer and researcher, Amanda shares her first-hand understanding of the psychology of these brutal individuals through their letters and art. On this episode of BTC, Amanda shares her experiences, as well as how she uses what she has learned about these types of personalities in her regular life. Check out Amanda's social media, as well as books you can buy here: On her website: www.amandahoward.com.au Youtube: www.youtube.com/user/AmandaHoward73 Facebook: www.facebook.com/amandahowardauthor/ Twitter: twitter.com/amandahoward73 Blogspot: amandahowardblog.blogspot.com.au/ Books Available NOW: Shrouded Echoes Rope: A History of the Hanged A Thousand Cuts How to be an Author (with Ashton Cartwright) Coming Soon: Killer Australia: Death and Destruction Down Under Killing Time: Tales of Terror and Torment Life, Death and Other Funny Stories BTC is produced by Hunt A Killer, the monthly murder mystery subscription box, check them out at huntakiller.com and use the code BEHIND for 10% off your first order. BTC is hosted by C.W.S., check out her writing here: huntakiller.com/blog Music by James Prow Production help from Jake Weholt Thanks to correspondent Laine Keniston