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Disclaimer: The audio on this podcast episode is a little rough due to poor Internet connection. If you would like to read the transcript rather than listen to the podcast, it is available on our website at mi.byu.edu/podcasts/book-of-mormon-studies-podcast-helaman-scholarship-with-david-goreThanks for listening to another episode of the Book of Mormon Studies Podcast. For this episode, Rosalynde Welch, Associate Director of the Maxwell Institute and Host of the podcast talks with David Gore, Assistant Professor in the Department of Communication at the University of Minnesota Duluth.In this episode, they discuss the scholarship of the book of Helaman, giving it context for readers of the Come, Follow Me curriculum for 2024.

We will discuss the bond between two cousins. They grew up together as children and were inseparable. As adults, they began kidnapping, raping and murdering several women. Thanks to the acts of a brave 17 year old girl, Lynn Elliot, who unfortunately, did not survive her attack but who's actions saved her 14 year old friend. The 14 year old girl is the only survivor of these two killing cousins, David Gore and Fred Waterfield. Sources: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Alan_Gore https://archive.tcpalm.com/news/a-rare-look-into-a-serial-killers-psyche-gore-killed-because-devil--other-nature-would-take-ov-ep-38-343318112.html https://www.newspapers.com/image/228758599/?terms=Angelica%20LaVallee%20and%20Barbara%20Ann%20Byer&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/633367147/terms=Angelica%20LaVallee%20and%20Barbara%20Ann%20Byer&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/228158562/terms=Angelica%20LaVallee%20and%20Barbara%20Ann%20Byer&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/810259822/?terms=Killing%20Cousins&match=1 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/homicidehobbies/support

Thanks for continuing to tune in to our history of Comanche series! I sat down with Fain McDaniel and David Gore from the Comanche County Museum to map out the entire history of Comanche, Texas. Enjoy! Visit us online: https://thecowboyperspective.com/ Support our sponsor: https://www.southwesternadvisorygroup.com/ Links: Comanche Museum Belve Bean LD Cox John Wesley Hardin Brushy Bill Roberts   Topics: (3:05) - The history of Comanche, from the very beginning! (10:57) - The arrival of the Spaniards (20:52) - Warring with Indians & the naming of Comanche (30:33) - Wagon Routes and US Army forts in Comanche (35:46) - The official incorporation of Comanche (37:57) - The initial construction of buildings and structures (40:29) - The fire problem & Comanche Outlaw stories (53:12) - Talkin' Old Comanche buildings (1:02:06) - Fain's love for history (1:07:59) - Belve Bean, LD Cox & other notable Comanche figures (1:14:30) - Comanche importance in Texas trade & Bill “Brushy” Roberts

Welcome back for Episode 99! David Gore and Fred Waterfield were the monsters lurking in Vero Beach, Florida. This is the story of when a narcissist and a sociopath join together in a super evil alliance. Let's do it because It's a little bit…depraved. CW: Graphic Description, Rape and sexual assault. Please be sure to like and share the story and follow us @itsalittlebitpodcast on Instagram, It's a little bit podcast on Facebook, @itsalittlebitpod on Tiktok or email itsalittlebitpodcast@gmail.com 

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David Gore and Fred Waterfield were not only best friends, but also cousins. From an early age the two got into trouble, but things escalated when David started working in law enforcement. To access earlier episodes of Corpus Delicti and to help support the show, please visit patreon.com/corpusdelictiOur merch store can be found at teepublic.com/stores/corpus-delicti-podcastMusic by:Kai Engel"Daemones"Blooper music by:Art of Escapism"Coal Miners"This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ or send a letter to Creative Commons, PO Box 1866, Mountain View, CA 94042, USA.Sources:First murder in 1980s led 'Killing Cousins' Gore and Waterfield on crime spree through Indian River (tcpalm.com)https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128560/amp/David-Alan-Gore-Florida-serial-killer-devil-eyes-preyed-women-abusive-sexual-fantasies-set-die.htmlMicrosoft Word - Gore, David Alan.doc (radford.edu)Wayback Machine (archive.org)Serial killer's letters may have sped up execution | Fox NewsDavid Alan Gore: Florida serial killer executed by lethal injection after string of rapes and murders in 1980s | Daily Mail OnlineFirst murder in 1980s led 'Killing Cousins' Gore and Waterfield on crime spree through Indian River (tcpalm.com)Yorkshire grandmother's letters to US serial killer David Gore - BBC News09 Apr 2012, 6 - St. Lucie News Tribune at Newspapers.com10 Apr 2012, 13 - St. Lucie News Tribune at Newspapers.com09 Apr 2012, 1 - St. Lucie News Tribune at Newspapers.com

Oppressive forces that enter our lives, in such a way that we cannot escape them - even when we are on our own - are a very serious matter. There may be a number of ways this could occur. But the more crucial matter is to find liberation.When the possessed man encounters Jesus, everything changed for the man. That which had not previously been possible - not even thinkable - suddenly became not only possible but desirable.What is it about the presence of Jesus that brings liberation? How do judging and condemning forces recognise they are beaten by the open, forgiving grace that Jesus embodies?The authority of Jesus' presence is irresistible. Alternate claims of absolute authority all fall away in the face of his unrelenting love.

If you had authority to command the wind and waves, and make them obey, what would you do with that power? Apart from the more obvious utility for picnics and camping trips, what does one do with authority like that?This story (from Mark 4:35-41) appears to be highlighting Jesus' authority over more than simply the wind and waves. The story that follows immediately after this (in chapter 5 of Mark's gospel) is about Jesus' authority over a legion of demons who had taken possession of a man.The wind and waves are emblematic of uncontrollable elements in our world. Yet, here is one who can speak to these uncontrollable elements, and have them respond to his commands. It begs the question, which the disciples ask one another, ‘Who then is this?'

Seeds are remarkable things. To all intents and purposes, seeds appear to be dead bits of grain. They lie dormant. They can be stored for long periods of time. They do not appear to change or develop. Then, in the right conditions, something miraculous happens.New life begins to grow. That which was otherwise dead, offers a whole new lease of life. The architecture of an entire plant is encoded within this tiny little package.The farmer knows enough to put these dynamic packages into the soil and bring water to them. But that is just the beginning of the mystery of a whole new cycle of life.The gospel holds a similar mystery. For those in whom this good news takes root, new life begins to grow… just as miraculously!

In the playbook of life, when things are getting out of hand, the default go-to move to regain control or order is violence - or the threat thereof. We reach for it in families (anyone remember the wooden spoon on the backside?). Corporal punishment was used in school classrooms in my lifetime (before being outlawed). Society relies on it for law and order (NSW police carry loaded guns on their hips). In many places around the world it continues to be used as an instrument of so-called justice (capital punishment).The impulse to contain violence by way of violence is as old as humanity itself. But it is not a solution - it is merely a management strategy. One that, over time, reveals the inherent weakness of its apparent strength. There is an alternative. It sounds nice… perhaps even easy. The reality is this alternative costs us everything. And it is completely worth everything!

If you were making up a theology from scratch, you would never opt to include a notion as allusive and difficult to explicate as the Trinity. It is an idea that has forced itself upon faithful believers simply because no viable alternative conclusions satisfy the available data.This gives rise to the somewhat reluctant realisation that we are seeking to describe something far beyond our everyday experience of life. We simply have neither the words, nor even the concepts, to do justice to the divine realities presented to us.Every now and then, in moments of relational clarity, we might glimpse something of the depth of interconnectivity that bonds the three distinct persons of the Trinity. But for the most part, this aspect of our God remains mysterious to us.Never-the-less, it is worth exploring - or at the very least acknowledging it is so.

Hope is one of those things that keeps people going. It is like the wind beneath our wings in a way. Humans are highly social - but our interactions with one another can be helpful and they can be equally destructive. Hope is one of the dynamics that keeps us oriented in the helpful direction. Should we lose hope, it is not straightforward to recover it again. It seems to be beyond us to generate for ourselves. Hope is something we place in something (or someone) beyond ourselves. Ezekiel's vision of the valley full of dry bones - that somewhat grotesquely reconstitute as living people in response to the prophetic words of God - is essentially a message of hope beyond any reasonable reason to hope.When the Holy Spirit comes upon the disciples at Pentecost, they are imbued with this same quality of hope beyond hope. 

Jesus directs his followers to love one another as he has loved them. This is not a matter of feeling warm toward others or having pleasant thoughts. It is about being ready to put one's self out for the sake of others.  At first blush this might seem less than favourable as a disposition. We might instinctually ask, ‘What's in it for me?'Jesus says as we do so his joy will be in us. That is, we will bring joy to Jesus as he sees us loving one another. Also, the joy Jesus knows as he fulfils his Father's will, is the same joy we will experience as we fulfil Jesus' directive in this way.The more astonishing thing is that Jesus goes on to call his followers not slaves or servants, but friends! Rather than exulting himself over those who would follow him, he invites us into the most intimate of relationship.

Stations of the Cross on Good Friday offers us the opportunity to reflect on the final moments of Jesus’ journey to Golgotha and the cross. Resurrection Sunday is an important celebration of the Messiah’s victory over the grave and the defeat of the ever present fear of death. Holy Saturday, the day between these two momentous events, is an equally important phase in which the disciples are in the process of transition. Our tradition has not put a great deal of emphasis on Holy Saturday. Indeed, Many in the Protestant world are in quite a rush to get from the crucifixion straight on to resurrection, without much more than a meaningful head nod toward the fact that Jesus died. Yet these kinds of transitions are so important if we are to be transformed in our discipleship. This morning that will be our focus. ‘He has Risen’ is our cry on this Sunday morning. Yet we will pause and consider how we got here!

The Servant Songs of Isaiah depict a servant so utterly committed to faithfulness to God that no matter what he faces he will not turn back from his faithfulness.
 As we arrive at chapter 50 of Isaiah, it is very clear that the Servant faces significant opposition. in fact, like most of the prophets, the Servant is reviled in the most aggressive and violent of ways. If we are to be true to our calling as God’s people, we do well to learn how to face opposition. Not to react to it. Not to retaliate to it. But to face it squarely and to respond in a way that does not compromise our faithfulness to God. This is among the most challenging aspects of our discipleship. It runs counter to the culture around us and even counter to our instinctual responses. We do well to learn from Isaiah.

Moses’ reception of the Law was a key moment in the formation of the people of Israel. A disparate group of tribes and hangers-on emerged from Egypt into a land they did not know. The challenges that could pull them apart were many. The things that held them together were few. In this context, the people make a promise together to be a people governed by the laws that were being handed down to them. Not only would these principles shape the way they conducted themselves with each other, they would come to be a key identity marker for the people. All human authorities in Israel stand under this Law. Neither king, priest nor prophet may disregard it. Yet, while the law protects the people from destroying themselves, it does not have the power to save. That will be the task of Messiah!

St Peter wants his readers to be aware that their sins have been forgiven. The believer has been brought close to God... made alive in spirit! Those who were once locked up within the prison of their self-interest have been set free by the grace-shaped love of God. Just as the ark saved Noah and his family from the flooding waters, the baptism of the believer offers the safety of assurance amidst the flooding tempest of accusation and half-baked motives. Left to either a peer-assessment or a self-assessment, we would be lost. But having given ourselves to Christ, and marking that with the act of baptism, we can be confident that we are accepted by God. We have no need to hide or pretend. We can confess, be honest and draw near! Our confidence is in Christ. The one who was condemned and crucified. Yet, he is also risen. All authorities are now subjected to Him! Christ’s way is the eternal way.

Elijah is certainly an enigmatic character in the history of Israel. Coming (as he does) after the period of institutionalisation of temple worship and the monarchy, he is a most unconventional presence in the stories he inhabits. The story of Elijah’s death and the passing of his prophetic mantle to Elisha (his successor), is designed to ensure no one is left in any doubt about how important Elijah’s ministry has been. The prophetic voice must be heard and understood as integral to the wellbeing of the people of Israel. When Jesus is transfigured, he is seen with two crucial figures from Israel’s history - Moses (representing the Law) and Elijah (representing the Prophets). These two elements of law and prophetic spirit continue to be in dialogue with each other… and sometimes in tension. We do well to listen for what the Spirit might be saying to us as we discern what it means to be the people of God today.

The ups and downs of life can be wearing at times. Not only the continual changes in circumstances that life often brings, but also the combined overall mood of the culture around us that can lift us or pull us down. Isaiah spoke to the people of Israel at a time when they had been wearied by their years in exile. The people were struggling to believe life could get better again for them. The prophet reminds the people that from where they take their bearings, radically alters one’s sense of what is going on. Look to the powerful people (and their regimes) and you will get a particular impression. Look past those people, to One who can extinguish their temporal power in the blink of an eye, and you will get a very different, and invigorating, impression. Isaiah recommends the latter!

If we hear teaching with authority, there are a number of ways in which that authority might function. The sense of authority in the teaching might be by virtue of the identity or position of the teacher. It might be the critical mass of the group who’s attention the teacher commands. It may be the teacher’s qualifications, experience and expertise in a given field. Jesus’ teaching with authority addressed the heart of his audience. He managed to activate an innate sense of what is true and what is in accordance with love. Then he called for a response. He called people to follow him as he lived his teaching in front of them.

Despite the sense that history keeps repeating, the story of humanity is going somewhere. There has been a steady development of the ways in which societies have structured themselves and cared for the most vulnerable. There have been key moments in this process. Jesus’ entry into history is one of these key moments. Jesus wants people to know of God’s grace shaped love for all. He lives it and embodies this love among them. Jesus calls disciples to join him in the task of living and sharing this love. The story of human history has been changed irrevocably as a consequence. Thanks be to God.

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The process of being found by, and consequently finding Jesus, is one that changes the way we perceive everything. We are brought up in an environment that tacitly indicates it is our responsibility to placate the divine powers. The reality is that the real threat is from within our own human survival instincts that will ultimately pit one against an other. Jesus challenges this instinct and calls us to die to it. In its place we are instructed to give ourselves. A new approach that equips us to be for one another. This is where divinity and humanity come together.

When we encounter paradox, it should alert us that our categories may be too small for the data we are observing. Paradox is that moment when the way we have understood a thing (up to now) contradicts the way we have understood another thing (up to now). This suggests there may be a way of understanding one or other (or both) things that we have not yet come to realise. We may be hindered in perceiving in this new way due to the imprecision of our capacity for observation... or sometimes our unwillingness to see clearly(?!). John’s prologue is full of paradox!

Not many of us would consider ourselves to be slaves. Yet, for how many of us is it the reality that we are driven? The dynamic of God’s kingdom is that we are no longer slaves. We are no longer driven. We have been adopted as children. Called. Invited! As children, we also inherit good things from our Heavenly Father. Not material stuff... eternally important stuff. The stuff that brings life to us and to the world.

When St Paul writes of a mystery that has been made known through the scriptures that leads to an obedience of faith to the glory of Jesus Christ, he is not simply stringing together a bunch of ideas because they sound interesting. Paul is referring to the central awareness that the revelation of good news (news that has always been good) can only be engaged by faith. It has always been accessible by faith. But nothing and no one in all of history has displayed it quite so clearly as Jesus. The glory it reveals is a uniquely Jesus shaped glory. Not the glory of monarchs, millionaires or movie stars. This is the glory of a love stronger than death!

Hope is not simply an important part of a fulfilling life. Hope is of the essence of the People of God. God’s people are a people looking toward the fulfilment of the promises of God. There are partial fulfillments along the way. Yet the very experience of the hoped for fulfilment gives rise to the realisation that there is yet more to hope for! Seasons when we misplace our hope often come down to the uncomfortable process of recalibrating the connection between the promise of God and the way we had construed it should be fulfilled. The truly hope-filled reality is that God is faithful and holds us even when our own hold on hope appears lacking. We have good reason to hope.

It is always better to have a reasonable sense of where you are. We find it helpful and reassuring to be able to plot where we have come from, where we are headed, and where we are at now. To assist us, we make use of reference points that are stable, that we can take comparative readings from. For the ancient traveler, the celestial bodies (sun, moon and stars) were those unmovable markers - set in their courses in the heavens above. Should the unthinkable occur... should those markers fall... How would the ancient traveler know where they were or which way to go on? Are there any clearer, more permanent reference points by which a person might get their bearings?

The nature of parables is that different people tend to hear different things in these brief stories Jesus told. Everything from an endorsement of capitalism to the judgement of God on laziness have been heard in the Parable of the Talents. The relational dynamics demonstrated by the 3 slaves offer a most penetrating and relevant insight into how our essential beliefs shape the way we interact with our world. Most of us are unlikely to have a clear or precise account of our functioning core beliefs. As I’ve suggested previously, our behaviors are eloquent in their own way. How is your life telling you about what you hold to be most true and important?

The outrageous part of Jesus’ story about the ten young women in Matthew 25 is not that the women with oil refused to share their meagre supplies with the women who had not thought to bring enough for the long wait through the night. Neither is it that the women who had to go to the merchants to replenish their oil supplies were subsequently barred from entering late into the celebration. The scandal is that anyone would not prepare adequately for such a time honored and important community event. It was unthinkable. Jesus original audience likely scoffed as if to indicate, ‘Well that would never happen in real life’! It is unthinkable that we would fail to prepare adequately for an important event. Either too many other things would have to have crowded out the importance of the event in our thinking or the truth is we never really cared that much about it. Jesus is urging his followers to consider carefully what is most important and to be sure to live into those things without being distracted by other less important parts of life. This is a limited time opportunity!

It seems to come naturally to us to want to impress upon others just how well we are doing. Whether in our career or our religion, we would rather people thought we were on top of things rather than failing. When the impression becomes more important than the substance, we are in trouble. We have begun to believe the lie that the most important thing is what everyone thinks... not what is actually going on! Eventually this deceit will be uncovered. We shall be seen for who we actually are. For some this will be a boon. For others a humiliation.

In the highly charged religio-political world of first century Palestine, any claim of divinity would have been greeted with skepticism and opposed with force (not unlike today in many ways). Jesus avoids evoking immediate violent opposition by gently introducing the notion that the Christ might be more than simply the son of a man. While his favourite way of referring to himself was the phrase, ‘Son of Man’, Jesus wants people to consider the power and significance of the Christ as one more than simply human. In the end, what does it matter whether the Christ is divine or not? It matters a lot. The meaning of everything ultimately hangs on this!

Jesus’ opponents seek to trap him by playing to one of his strengths. Jesus discerns what they are up to. Rather than skirt the issue or make an unclear response, Jesus shocks his audience with a full throated affirmation in precisely the opposite direction to what they were expecting. Jesus then broadens the realm of consideration as he pivots from the notion of the image of the Caesar to the image of God. Do you know who you belong to?

Generosity is something of a disruptive dynamic. We have no way to quantify or codify it. We cannot command nor control how it comes to us. If it comes to us in a measure different to the measure given to someone else, we find it difficult to know what to make of this. Yet, the grace that gives according to the fullness of the heart that is giving, is not concerned nor constrained by matters of measures of fairness. This generosity offers what is needful regardless of deservedness or otherwise. In the affairs of human economy, the unregulated (and unregulate-able) gesture of generosity can serve to remind us that our own efforts are not the ultimate arbiter of our worth. Generosity is the whisper of the heart of God - who gives everything to and for us - letting us know we are deeply loved no matter what!

Personally, I prefer to avoid confrontation. However, pretending something is not there does not make it go away. It gives it space to grow. Jesus encourages his followers to be accountable to each other and to hold each other to account. This is not the laid back or fun part of community. It is the structural support that makes ongoing community possible. It is one of the ways we offer life to one another!

The sense of call that drew Jesus to Jerusalem and into the hands of those he knew would take his life, was fundamental to his identity. The Messiah came to show the love of God to people. Jesus was not naïve about how that love would be received. An acceptance of where things are headed, can empower us to make the most of our time on the journey. When we know the purpose (the end point), we can make choices and take actions that enhance our effectiveness to our desired end. To the extent that we do so, we shall not be burdened with regrets. Our lives will tell a true story of our heart’s intent. We shall be to the glory of God… a glory that is truly beyond imagining!

David Gore and Fred Waterfield are cousins.  What do these two like to do for fun?  Well they like to rape and murder women.  This is one family you don't want to be a part of.  Trust me.

Many of the utterances we hear these days are not worth the time it would take to listen to them. The trend appears to be the use of words without proper consideration of their meaning nor the truth value of the statement being made. There are a few utterances well worth listening to and discerning the meaning they offer. This morning’s reading from Matthew 16:13-20 contains words from and about Jesus we do well to take careful note of. A whole world of meaning rests on the declaration that Jesus is the Christ. This can flow on to impact the worth of our own utterances and the power these have on the lives of those who hear us.

When was the last time you had a sense the call of Christ was bidding you to place your feet where you had no reasonable expectation that your weight would be supported? Have you had that experience? How did you respond? The life of faith, responding to the call of Christ, is always bidding us to follow Jesus to places the culture of our world does not sustain. We are called to be, and to respond to the world around us, not just like everyone else. For all the grand statements we might hear about diversity, it is always a step into the unknown to allow one’s self to be identified as different. You might even say it is quite like walking on water!

We like to have more than enough to go around - especially when it comes to the essentials. Scarcity is an experience that triggers our survival instincts and heightens our competitiveness for needed resources. Imagine there was a way to overcome the reflex that causes us to focus on our own requirements and treat others with less regard. Imagine we could become instinctively generous and thoughtfully inclusive of others. Jesus shows us the way. In the midst of potentially life-threatening developments in the politics around his ministry, Jesus turns his attention to the crowds, and helps them become a community. Soon they have more than enough!

Every now and then elements within the church dabble in triumphalism. There is something perpetually attractive about the notion of the greatest power in the universe being on one’s own team. The reality is, of course, that God never joins anyone’s team. We are invited to participate in God’s kingdom.
 The difference may sound subtle but it is significant. The conquering we do has far less to do with vanquishing threats or enemies around us. It has far more to do with overcoming destructive urges within and between us. When we become overwhelming conquerors, it is our victory over self-centredness, fear deception and violence that we are touting.
 This conquering is more profound and its impact more far reaching than any other. We grow into the new humanity that God is calling us to be. We become increasingly free from destructive impulses. As a result we are liberated to offer ourselves to the world in life-giving ways. That is conquering!

What is it that keeps you going? Day to day life changes and we all have our ups and downs. What is it that keeps you going when there is more down than up? Another way to ask this is, What do you hope in? What do you hope to see happen? What is it that you want to participate in? What are you longing for? St Paul is quite paradoxical here. He would have us fix our gaze on that which is unseen! Yet, this is of the very nature of hope. We eagerly wait with perseverance for what we do not see! What are you hoping in?

The grace we enjoy as those set free from the fear of condemnation opens new opportunities to us to be transformed in the most profound ways. The fear of condemnation drives a kind of slavish obedience to the rules. Obedience undertaken in the hope that we might be judged somehow acceptable. Now that there is no condemnation for those in Christ’s Jesus, we no longer need be motivated by fear. There is a gracious space to reconsider what life is about and where fuller life is to be found. This re-evaluation in the context of grace has opportunity to go all the way through to our motives and desires so that we not only desire new things, we desire them in new kinds of ways. This transformation holds the hope of living the richest life to the full.

The internal tussle between what we know to be good and what we seem to find ourselves doing despite our knowing what is good, is as old as humanity itself. It is a universal experience to have unconscious drives within us that take us places our conscious weighing of things would never direct us! St Paul says it like this: “For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate.” How familiar are you with this experience in your own life? What have you discovered to be the most useful way to reign in unconscious wayward drives? Does faith in Christ offer us anything helpful here?

St Paul certainly believes Christ does!

The people a person welcomes and the people they turn away from can tell us a lot about that person. Who we like to associate with and who we avoid, can offer insight into what we hold as most important. Insight that looks past our capacity for self-justification. When Jesus speaks of receiving the prophet and the righteous, we might self-assuredly think ‘of course we would receive such people’. But we should remember, the prophet and the righteous are the people most often shunned and ostracized by their community. To welcome and be associated with them can be risky business!

St Paul made a lot of Christ’s death and resurrection. He saw it as the pivot point on which all of human history and meaning turned. For Paul, these events were not simply historic. They were events that the believer somehow participated in through identification with Christ. What does it mean that we have died in Christ? How do we live the resurrection we have in Christ? What is your experience of such things?

The kind of authority that has been given to Jesus is different to the style of authorities we have become accustomed to in the world. Jesus’ authority is uniquely powerful without being over powering. We become fully immersed in it without being overwhelmed by it. It disciples and builds us without tearing us down. We are given the privilege of both sharing in this authority AND sharing it with others, that they might taste also the richness of kingdom life and be transformed by it..

Jesus promises those who believe in him that they will have ‘rivers of living water bubbling forth from them’. What on earth might this mean?! This was a looking forward to the coming and impact of the Holy Spirit. A spirit not of humanity but from beyond us. A unique and other spirit. This Spirit changes everything for disciples of Jesus. We are transformed from being consumers to being a resource for those around us and the whole world.

Well established expectations take a long time to die. When we have held a particular hope in our hearts for a meaningful duration of time, letting go of that hope - even in the face of overwhelming evidence that holding on to such a particular hope will certainly end in disappointment - is not straightforward for us! When the disciples meet the risen Christ, and begin to come to terms with the fact that he has come through death, they default to their well established hope of kicking out their Roman overlords and establishing an independent Israel. But this was never what Messiah was going to be about. The risen Christ allows space for the disciples to reflect a little longer on the revelation of salvation history. Even as Christ bids them farewell and is taken up away from their sight, he sends them forth to infiltrate the whole world.

Dialogue Sunday Gospel Study on Mosiah 29-Alma 4 David Charles Gore is Professor & Department Head in the Department of Communication at the University of Minnesota Duluth. He is the author of The Voice of the People: Political Rhetoric… The post Dialogue Book of Mormon Gospel Study with David Gore on Mosiah 29 – Alma 4 appeared first on Dialogue Journal.