Murder Phone

I am a tramatic Brain Injury Survivor. My family is my biggest support system so in this our first episode and with their help I'd like to tell you my fascinating story of life before and after the accident. We'll talk about how my Brain Injury dramatically changed my life. I will describe in detail my Near Death experience and the choice I was given and how the changes in my life eventually led me to corresponding with some of the most notorious killers in the world. This led to some of these relationships to be documented in the best-selling book “The Serial Killer Whisperer.”

Tony Ciaglia along with his dad Co-Host Al Ciaglia will get into the personality of David Gore. Through Gore's early letters the listeners will start to get an idea of the twisted and sick thoughts of this evil killer. These letters will be read without any edits so Gore's words that were written to Tony over 11 years ago will be shared just as he wrote them. The early letters start to tell a horrifying story shared directly from the serial killer. This is a long story with many twists, turns and unexpected results. Tony's commentary based on his 6 year relationship with Gore adds an extra element to this true story.

The Perfect Storm is defined as :A combination of events which are not individually dangerous, but occurring together produce a disastrous outcome. David Gore and Fred Waterfield truly were THE PERFECT STORM. Together they became the most violent storm of torture, rape and murder that Vero Beach Florida had ever experienced.

The interruption of the murder of an innocent women is described in detail. Gore and Waterfield are so upset they decide to kill Fred's mom if it happens again.

David Gore and Ted Bundy became good friends on Death Row in Florida. Gore sent Tony many letters describing what the friendship was like and the horrific discription of what they would done if they knew each other on the outside. The letters discuss their crimes, Bundy's wife and little girl's visits, and Gore's general impression as to what Ted was like . Tony also covers Ted's claim that pornography led him to do the terrible things he did and at the same time the letters show Gore's surprising response to this. This a rare look at two serial killers bonding on death row and what type of interaction an unholy alliance like this produces.

Dr Jim Fallon is a professor of psychiatry and human behavior and emeritus professor of anatomy and neurobiology in the University of California, Irvine School of Medicine. Tony, Al and Jim discuss the question of whether these killers are born evil or are created. The discussion covers many topics related to how and why the brain effects all types of human behavior.

David Gore discusses how he took polaroid pictures of his victims and buried them with the scalps he took as trophies. He promises Tony he will draw him a map and give detailed instructions as to where they are buried. While doing investigation for Tony's book The Serial Killer Whisperer Tony comes across a cold case that sounds very similar to a murder that Gore describes in one of his letters. The letter details how he picked up Rose a young Indian girl at a truck stop bar. What Tony discovers is truly a sad story of final closure.

Gore discusses how many victims he and Fred killed. He also talks about serial killers mindset when it came to their trophies. In a shocking revelation Gore describes why he took scalps as trophies and what he would do with them. During this episode Tony will share a tragic story that we call the Killing of Innocence. Gore describes the rape and brutal murder of two 14 year old hitchhikers that he and Fred had picked up on one of their hunts. The story is so shocking and tragic that it literally will hurt your heart. The description of what they did to these two innocent teenagers led Gore to have his execution date expedited. He literally talked his way into the execution chamber.

This episode describes the day that the Killing Cousins were finally caught. Tony and Al will compare descriptions of what happened that day from official accounts , Gore's different written accounts and a recorded interview of the lone survivor.

Gore continues to share information with Tony. He agrees to a tell all story about his life and crimes that he and Fred committed but were never charged with. He describes in great detail the murder of one of their first victims. They actually raped and murdered this young girl in David Gore's house.

Gore describes one of his early murders from the 1970s. He is feeling the pressure of the push for his execution.

This episode details events that led to Gore's execution. How the information that Tony shared for his book was used without his knowledge to expedite Gore's execution. You will hear the last letters that Gore ever wrote Tony and Tony's responses. This episode will show how David Gore literally talked his way into the execution chamber.

Tony and Al talk with Angela Hommell as she describes in detail how she was abducted and raped by David Gore and Fred Waterfield. Angela is a true hero and her story will both sadden, and shock you. When you hear the full story about how she was treated after the rape I guarantee it will enrage you. Angela tells us how she literally was raped twice, once by Fred and David and then by law enforcement.

Tony and Al discuss the timeline of Gore and Waterfield's crimes. Waterfield and his daughters proclaim Fred's innocence. Tony and Al using the timeline and facts of the case shoot holes in Fred's story and why he should never get out of prison.

Tony and Al go through the many clues that Gore wrote about regarding his trophies. After years of letters Gore eventually gives great directions and draws a map that will lead to the spot where his trophies (scalps and photos) are buried. Tony and Al actually go to this location in 2010 when researching Tony's book.

Tony and Al answer questions from listeners regarding Season One of Murder Phone.

In the best true crime podcast ever, you will hear Hadden Clark talking on the phone with Tony and Al about how he is going to let them into a part of his life no one knows about. This is a true crime thriller podcast as Hadden talks about how he was living a double life and will let us in on secrets that he never talks about. How he never threatened anyone but always got even as he became a revenge killer. In this weekly crime podcast Hadden in his own words  will discuss how he was raised as a girl and the extreme abuse that he suffered as a child. How he was physically and mentally abused in sick and twisted ways. Hadden tells how he was a cook and how easy it was to get rid of bodies with the equipment he had. How he made chum out of girls and kept their ID's in a mysterious hidden root cellarAh. The “Root Cellar.”  The underground lair that could hold a trove of  evidence of cold cases unsolved.  The psychological game of beast and mouse begins in this truly suspenseful podcast. During this thrilling season Hadden will personally direct this chilling treasure hunt to help Tony discover the location of his “Mysterious Root Cellar”.   Throughout this season's podcast Tony Ciaglia will take you inside the true life crime story of Hadden Clark who killed his first victim at the ripe old age of 12. Clark went on to be one of the most clever and devious serial killers of our time. 

In this weekly crime podcast episode your host Tony Ciaglia will cover the  tragic murder of Michelle Dorr  May 31st 1986. Murder Phone once again will bring true crimes podcasts to a new level as the listeners will hear in conversations with Hadden the truly morbid story of how he murdered this beautiful child. In his own words with no emotion or remorse he describes what happened that day. Hadden was a suspect but he was let go because the timeline didn't fit. Hadden will describe in a phone call how he set up his alibi and the listeners will understand how clever and devious he was, and why he wasn't caught for so many years.The beast always brags how when he hides something it's not supposed to be found. Tony's conversations with Hadden will explain how the police could never find the body until he led them to it years later. These conversations have never been heard until now, creating the best suspense filled podcast that you will ever hear. This is Murder Phone. 

In this episode of our true crime podcast you'll hear serial killer Hadden Clark describe how and why he murdered Laura Houghteling.  Laura's mom Penny Houghteling had hired Hadden to do yard work and odd jobs around the house. He became very close to her and actually fantasized about her being his mother. When Laura graduated from Harvard and moved home she didn't like or trust Hadden.  During this time Hadden became increasingly jealous of Laura's close relationship with her mother. A necklace went missing and Laura blamed Hadden for it so Penny fired him. Penny was going out of town for business so Hadden Clark “The Beast” took over and used this opportunity to get even.  Hadden admits to psychologically torturing Laura for over three hours in her room before he suffocated her. The suspense builds as Clark describes being dressed in Laura's clothes and wearing a wig while messing with her mind. This proved to be a method that he used many times over the years and he would morbidly call it “Bible Study”. Clark would  actually dress in their clothes and make the victim swear on a bible that he was her and she was him. Over and over in this thriller podcast season “Bible Study” will be described by Hadden as his way to torture his victims before he killed them. 

The year was 1964 and at the age of 12 revenge killer Hadden Clark killed his first victim. He drowned a boy at the Woods School, a school for special needs children. The school thought it was an accident but young serial killer  Hadden said if they had done an autopsy they would have found  chlorine in the boys lungs from the pool. Hadden had moved the body to a septic tank and made it look like an accident.FBI profilers have said that Serial Killers love fire and this Murder Phone podcast episode shows that Clark fits this description. In a letter to Tony Ciaglia,  Hadden admits to burning down a historical landmark The Ocean View Hotel on Block Island. Hadden was only 14 years old on July 6th, 1966 when he decided to burn down the famous hotel. Over the years of communication with Tony,  Hadden has described his love of fires and talked of many instances where he set fires just so he could sit and watch the flames burn out of control.

In this thriller podcast Hadden Clark discusses with Tony Ciaglia the murders of girls from around the Meriden Ct. area.It's significant because the police took him out of prison to visit these areas and as Hadden points out “If I didn't give the police good information they never would have taken me on these trips.” Clark says in conversations with Tony that he also identified pictures of certain girls that went missing from that area.Clark starts off blaming an old friend named Bob Cardinal, claiming he murdered the girls and Hadden just got rid of the bodies for him. Hadden Clark finally  admits that Cardinal never murdered anyone, it was all Hadden.Hadden talks of bars in the floor of his grandfather's garage, where he would chain the girls and torture them before he killed them. In morbid detail Clark tells Tony Ciaglia how he froze their bodies and used a chain saw to cut them up. He then dumped them in the ocean, and used them for chum.When Hadden went there with the police the bars were gone so they thought he was a liar. Shockingly they found out from the new owner of the house that the bars had actually been there, and he had removed them.

In this weeks true crime podcast Tony Ciaglia discusses with Hadden Clark how his older brother Bradfield wound up in prison for murder.In Los Gatos a small town south of San Francisco in June 1984, Bradfield Clark -- two years older than Hadden -- invited a co-worker Trish Mak to his apartment for dinner. Bradfield tortured and murdered the girl then dismembered her body with a kitchen knife and actually cooked some parts on his BBQ grill. He wrapped the rest of the pieces in garbage bags and stored the bags in his Datsun 200 SX, Two days later he called the police and turned himself in. In June 1985 Bradfield pleaded guilty to 2nd degree murder and was sentenced to 18 years to Life.Clark was in the Navy at this time and was stationed on a ship in Alameda Ca. close to his brother. Hadden told Tony that he was there the night his brother killed the girl and claims he has never told anyone this. He said his brother was so drunk and drugged up that he doesn't even remember Hadden being there.Clark discusses in morbid detail on phone calls and in letters how his brother brutally tortured and murdered the girl. If this is true and knowing what we know about Hadden he may have helped his brother or even did the killing himself. Hadden was interviewed by the police but as usual had an alibi.

Over the years Tony and Al had several visits with Hadden. The first visit was shocking because no picture could prepare you for the real Hadden Clark. We were expecting to see this little timid man that preferred being a woman, but before us was a 6 foot reptilian looking man staring at you as his tongue darts back and forth and around his lips. His eyes may be looking at you but in reality he was looking through you. The first visits were taken up by small talk and stories about prison. Hadden bragged that he won many bets in prison because he would eat anything, spiders, roaches it didn't matter. He told us a story about how he once killed a seal on Block Island and ate its heart raw. During later visits he began to open up more as Tony gained his trust. Tony knew he was in for 2 murders, but he always felt there were more. Early on he would ask leading questions about other crimes but Hadden always denied it. On a visit in 2013 we heard about the root cellar for the first time. When he mentioned it, he said that if anyone stumbled on it he would have federal and state authorities lined up at his cell to talk with him. This peaked Tony's interest and he began bringing the subject up in letters. Now after almost 15 years of communication Hadden began to open up and send Tony information that would prove to be invaluable in investigating his many crimes. Hadden Clark says over and over in letters and discussions, “I'm going to be talking about things I've never talked to you about, or I might say I didn't do it but I did do it.”

Tony Ciaglia and his father Al discuss how Hadden is finally opening up about many cold cases . Wood School, Washington's Crossing ,Cape Cod, Block Island, Camp Wel Met,  Meriden Ct. , Wallingford, CT,  New Canaan Ct, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Colorado, California Tony describes how they set up what they called their war room. They began to organize and analyze all of the information and clues that Hadden was sending. Notes from their visits, maps, dates, timelines, letters and phone conversations. Gradually they begin to realize there seems to be one key to everything, the mysterious  ROOT CELLAR that his grandfather showed Hadden back in 1964. If what Hadden says is true it would answer a lot of questions about many cases.After years of clues and cryptic messages from Hadden Clark, Tony makes his own “Revelation”“We've got to go to Cape Cod,” and that's just what we did!

Tony Ciaglia decided in Episode 9 Revelations that they had to make the trip to Cape Cod.After studying the locations and details of the crimes Hadden was discussing, Tony realized the best place to find the truth is the mysterious root cellar that Clark continuously refers to. Hadden describes in detail what will be found in the root cellar; women's ids, wallets, driver licenses, bank checks etc. He also says there are journals that describe what happened to Sarah Pryor, Doreen Vincent, Bonnie and Mitch from Camp Wel Met and the Race Point girl known as “The Lady of the Dunes”. Over the many years of communicating with Hadden, Tony knows that he loves to document things, and realizes this could be a goldmine of information. Just solving one of these cold cases would be worth the trip to The Cod. After talking with Hadden we think that the root cellar is real, but because we're dealing with a serial killer we are always skeptical.  We realize that the only way we can be sure is to travel to Cape Cod and follow the trail of clues that Hadden has supplied over the past few years. We go over the many letters, maps and clues describing the root cellar and its location. The consistency of the information never changes! Armed with the maps, letters, clues, land marks and phone recordings we are ready to travel to Cape Cod. 

Tony Ciaglia, along with his dad Al and brother Joey share the experiences of their trip to Cape Cod. In exciting and humorous detail they go over details of the trip from start to finish.Using the maps, letters, clues, land marks and phone recordings they were able to verify that indeed Hadden had led them to the area of the root cellar. Battling the winter elements, and a forgotten old dirt road they were able to locate the old foundation that Hadden had described. They finally found their starting point and spent 2 days fighting freezing temperatures, ticks and a steep and treacherous terrain in search of the root cellar. Upon returning home Tony received a call from Hadden. He was excited that we found all the clues and was acting vindicated because we had grilled him so much on whether the root cellar really existed. Once again he never changes his story. He verifies the root cellar was right in the area where we had searched.  Hadden again verifies that we will find information on many cases including Bonnie Bickwit and Mitch Weisner, the Race Point Victim Lady of the Dunes, Sarah Pryor and Doreen Vincent.Hadden Clark's story is always consistent, The Root Cellar exits and we were in the exact area that it's located. Tony, Al and Joey realize they can't give up until they find it!

On July 26, 1974, the nude body of a woman was discovered along the shoreline in Provincetown, MA. Because of the serene way in which her body was positioned in the sand dunes, the murder quickly became known as the Lady of the Dunes case. The Lady of the Dunes murder remains unsolved to this day, and is one of the oldest cold cases in Massachusetts.Hadden Clark claims to have stumbled across the body when he was night fishing. He says he placed her IDs in the root cellar.Hadden finally admitted that he was a part of the crime, but through letters and phone conversations we will see that the story keeps changing. The one thing Tony Ciaglia knows for sure is that Hadden was there that night and was somehow involved. Tony and Al will discuss the many twists and turns that the story has taken as they compare Hadden's different stories that he has told over the years.  Tony Ciaglia realizes there are only two things that can be verified:1. Hadden claims that both girls Identification is in the root cellar2. Hadden says that he wrote in his journal and diary what happened that night. Those journals and diaries are also in the root cellar. Tony vows that they won't stop until they find the Root cellar!

On October 9th, 1985 Sarah Pryor told her father she was going for a walk. She walked along Concord Rd. in Wayland, MA for over a mile and was seen by several witnesses. After this she was never seen again. In 1995 a skull fragment was discovered by a person walking their dog. It was approximately 3 miles from where Sarah vanished in October, 1985. The skull fragment was confirmed by DNA testing in January 1998  to be Sarah's.  The family could finally give little Sarah a proper burial. On January 13th 1998, she was laid to rest on the same day she would have turned 22.Hadden confessed to this crime, but was never charged. In letters and phone conversations Hadden speculates about how Sarah died.Hadden claimed in letters that he was the last person to see her alive, and said “she was a cute girl”. Once again Hadden says her whole story is in the root cellar. 

On July 27, 1973, Mitchel Weiser, age 16, and his girlfriend Bonita “Bonnie” Bickwit, age 15, both from Brooklyn, New York disappeared somewhere between Narrowsburg and Watkins Glen, New York. Their disappearance on the way back from–or, more likely, on the way to–The Summer Jam Festival has been the subject of speculation, and confusion for nearly half a century. It is one of the most puzzling and most iconic missing persons cases of its era.In 1973 Hadden was working at Camp Wel-Met. He claims he was supplying Bonnie and other girls with marijuana.  He admits being the last person to see Bonnie before Mitch and her left for the concert. Hadden called her boyfriend dumb and claimed he owed drug dealers and that's why they were killed. The case has never been solved.  Hadden speculates on how the bodies were disposed of which certainly fit his M.O. Clark says the case will be solved by the information we will find in the root cellar.

On July 27, 1973, Mitchel Weiser, age 16, and his girlfriend Bonita “Bonnie” Bickwit, age 15, both from Brooklyn, New York disappeared somewhere between Narrowsburg and Watkins Glen, New York. Their disappearance on the way back from–or, more likely, on the way to–The Summer Jam Festival has been the subject of speculation, and confusion for nearly half a century. It is one of the most puzzling and most iconic missing persons cases of its era.In 1973 Hadden was working at Camp Wel-Met. He claims he was supplying Bonnie and other girls with marijuana.  He admits being the last person to see Bonnie before Mitch and her left for the concert. The case has never been solved.  In Part 2 Tony Ciaglia and his dad Al cover the reactions by the family on what they describe as the non-investigation of the case. Hadden Clark all but confesses in a letter that is very detailed and tells how he would have gotten rid of the bodies. In a phone conversation Hadden claims to have taken Bonnie and Mitch on vacation which is his code word for murder. Tony gives very real scenarios as to why they think that Clark would have murdered the two teenagers. 

Doreen VincentDoreen Vincent disappeared from her father's house in Wallingford June 15, 1988, never to be seen or heard from again.With no body and no evidence, police can't say for certain who may have been responsible for the 12-year-old's disappearance. Doreen's father Mark Hunter Vincent became the prime suspect in her disappearance, much like the case of Michelle Dorr.   On June 15th 1988 Hadden picked up Doreen Vincent in Wallingford Ct. and claims he drove her to a bowling alley. She went missing that day and has never been found. Hadden mention's her briefly on a phone call dated 10/10/16. He never admits to killing her but did say that the information about that day can be found in the root cellar.

 Tony, Al and Joey were very disappointed after the first trip to Cape Cod  in December of 2016. They found the  general area of the root cellar so they knew it was there, but they needed a new plan of attack. We began to investigate Ground Penetrating Radar and after much investigation and some disappointments we finally are able to rent a GPR device (Noggin 500) and return to Cape Cod in November of 2018.We arranged for the GPR equipment to be shipped right to the hotel so it was there when we arrived. We had to assemble the unit and figure out how to use it, we were so excited that after nearly 2 years we were back with the proper equipment to hopefully discover the location of the infamous root cellar. We wanted to try out the unit, and Hadden's descriptions all said the root cellar is about 5 to 6 feet deep so we decided a graveyard was the best place to experiment. We found one of Wellfleet's oldest graveyards and waited until late afternoon when there wouldn't be anyone there. It was desolate and creepy, but using the GPR over graves gave us a pretty good indication as to what the root cellar would look like.We retrace our earlier steps and spend 4 days formulating grids and soil slices. During these 4 days we were on the phone with experts in the field of GPR.  We had sent so many videos and images and had so many false alarms that we were getting discouraged.Finally on the 4th day we find an area that is as Hadden described it, and it is at a depth that makes sense. At this point we are pretty sure this is it, so we sent all the new images to Hans and waited to hopefully hear some positive news.We finally got the call we had been waiting for, Hans said, “after looking at your notes and the data from the GPR I'm sure you guys found what you were looking for.” It was music to our ears. After over two years, two trips to Cape Cod, and a whole lot of time, work and expense we finally found Hadden's secret Root cellar. It was late in the day and the sun was going down. The fact that we were standing over the root cellar made the excitement almost unbearable, but at the same time foreboding. 

Tony sends a message about Season 3 and what's coming in September. 

Tony talks about Season 3 and the definite  launch date. He  also thanks the new members that signed up for Buy Me a Coffee and discusses the new and exciting posts on Buy Me A Coffee including videos of Tony performing as Elvis and the new "Let's Talk About" video series starting with the Killer Clown John Wayne Gacy. 

Tony, Al and Joey answer questions from supporters that were emailed into The Murder Phone Podcast. Here's an example of the questions that were discussed.Is Hadden Clark still alive?Did you open the root cellar?Are you working with law enforcement?Did you tell Clark that you found the root cellar and what was his reaction?What has law enforcements reaction been to all of this?How do you gain the trust of these serial killers in order to get them to share so much information?Do you think Hadden killed the girl at his brothers apartment?Is Fred Waterfield still trying to get out of prison?Did Hadden Clark really have, as he calls it, Bible Study with his victims?How does Tony handle the pure evil he has to deal with and does it affect him?When does Season 3 launch and who is it about? Great questions, great answers, this is an episode that you don't want to miss. 

Tony gives a sneak preview of Season 3 The Arthur John Shawcross Story, that premiers Monday October 3rd, 2022.By popular demand Tony reads one of his writings  from 2012 about living life with a Traumatic Brain Injury. The story turns out to be very prophetic. 

Tony's first mailing went out to over 40 killers all over the country, and the very first letter that came in was from Arthur John Shawcross, Alias “The Genesee River Killer”Tony only knew Art for approximately 2 years, but during that short period he opened himself up in ways Tony never imagined. This season Tony will share the story exactly as Shawcross told it.  Here's a small sample of what Tony will share this season:Art wrote a detailed account of his Early Years and his time in Vietnam. (84 pages) titled “Growing Up in the House Of Sin” It could easily have been titled “The Making of a Serial Killer”. Art sent Over 100 Letters in less than two years detailing Prison life, his personal attitudes about other prisoners, woman, pen pals, collectors, his personal recipes, sex, and murder.Art sent Tony a handwritten letter from The Manhunter himself FBI profiler John Douglas along with his business card that he had sent to Art. Tony will share a letter Art sent to him with a letter he received from Keith Jesperson the Happy Face Killer. He calls him a fucking maggot!Shawcross agreed to describe his killings. Art said he had been asked many times but always said no. He describes in detail each murder. Phone conversations that have never been heard by anyone but the family. The calls will give you an idea of his narcissism and views on people and life in general.  Tony and Al's descriptions of the prison visits they had with ArthurPersonal Writings, poetry and Art workShawcross tells Tony in his last letter before he died that he has given Tony what no one else has. Tony and Al will once again get you as close to a serial killer as you ever want to be. 

The story you are about to hear is taken from Art's personal book that he wrote for Tony; “Growing Up In The House of Sin” or as we like to call it “The Making of a Serial Killer.” This story is a classic case of nurturing, a primer, if you will, on how to create one fucked up child and turn him into an animal. Art's family and then the military did one hell of a job creating the monster that Arthur John Shawcross became.Then they turned him loose to walk among us. This is the story of his road to hell, as told by Shawcross himself.  The information we're going to present today is uncomfortable.  It's a subject that is both uncomfortable to talk about and uncomfortable to hear. We're talking about incest, incest between a mother and son and incest between a brother and his sisters. This is the shocking story of Art Shawcross' childhood as told by him. These are the building blocks of who he was to become as they began to be assembled at an early age.

In this Episode Tony will cover some excerpts from Arthur's book describing his time in Vietnam. You will also hear more actual conversation with Art describing certain things that happened while he was in “Vietnam”After listening to the atrocities that Art both witnessed and committed in Vietnam, and think about how he was raised,  you'll understand why Tony and Al believe that his is a classic case of nurturing a monster.Art's stories become a text book example of Narcissism 101.Tony close's with a letter from Art dated April 19th, 2007. It's the first time he heard that Shawcross was writing a book for him about his early years and Vietnam. Art obviously agrees that his book could have been titled “The Making of a Serial Killer”Art says “I know there are reasons for the way I turned out, and I believe a lot had to do with my early years.” “I'm not making excuses for what I did or what I became, I'm just trying to make sense out of all of it.”

Tony is going to start with the Murders of Jack Blake and Karen Hill.Something Art never would discuss with anyone.Shawcross writes a very sarcastic letter to Tony and describes a ridiculous account of what happened to the two children, and warns Tony to never to ask about it again. In response Tony basically tells Art to go screw himself.Arthur actually apologizes and in his next letter and gives a detailed description of how June Cicero was murdered. Tony and Al discuss how Plea Bargains are abused and why Art should not have ever been released. This is a fascinating description of what happened to Shawcross when he was released and what he did during this time.Another rally good poem that Shawcross wrote about Vietnam is covered. 

Tony points out that all the killers that he deals with are  sociopaths and narcissistic, but Arthur John Shawcross is without a doubt the most arrogant killer that I've ever dealt with over the past 16 years.Tony and Al share several of the stories that Arthur wrote about in his letters that show his extreme narcissistic tendencies.Shawcross answers some of Tony's questions about eating human flesh among other atrocities that he committed.The episode ends with Shawcross writing an exact narration of how he murdered his first Rochester victim Dorothy Blackburn. It is both graphic and disgusting. 

The Mask Of Sanity, is a great term for what these killers use. Think about it, most all of them wore some type of mask,Ted Bundy, Ken Bianchi, Randy Kraft, John Wayne Gacy, Dorothea Puente, Wayne Elmer Henley and the list goes on including our season's subject Arthur John Shawcross. Tony will describe a visit with Arthur Shawcross and how his Mask of sanity gradually came off over the two days they spent with him.Tony and Al will share actual stories that were told to them in person by Shawcross. The mask totally comes off as Tony describes Art's story about eating a victims vagina raw. The details of the death of Shawcross' second Rochester victim Anna Marie Steffen will be shared exactly as Shawcross narrated them in a letter to Tony. 

John Douglas, The Mindhunter himself sent Arthur Shawcross a letter, who in turn sent it to TonyTony has so much respect for John Douglas and this is one of his most prized possessions. Mr Douglas' letter is handwritten and signed by him. It's on FBI stationary with the FBI Gold Badge on the top. Tony and Al are going to cover what he asked of Shawcross and Art's response that he shared in a couple of letters.Tony will also share the details of the Dorothy Keeler murder. Arthur Shawcross shared details of this murder and explains in graphic detail why and how he killed Dorothy. In the end you will find out why they have named this “The Case of the Missing Head”

“Fuck This Maggot”Keith Jesperson “The Happy Face Killer” and Arthur John Shawcross “The Genesee River Killer, Square OffIn this Episode Tony and Al are going to cover something very rare in the serial killer world. Keith Jesperson sent Arthur Shawcross a letter which was shared with me. Art was not very happy with what Keith had to say, and wrote in large letters “Fuck This Maggot” across the top of the letter. As you can only imagine the responses from Shawcross aren't very pretty. Ha haTony will be covering Shawcross' descriptions of the murders of Patty Ives and Frances Brown Victims 4 and 5. Arthur Shawcross takes the meaning of narcissism to a new level

Tony was very interested in the thought process of  serial killer's in prison and poems are a great form of expression.Shawcross shared many poems with Tony and they turned out to be thoughtful, dark and at times hopeful. This episode will cover some short bits and pieces about Serial Killer Dorothea Puente Dr Stone, who put together a scale determining who is “Most Evil”Tony and Al will detail the graphic descriptions of the murders of Victim #6 Elizabeth Gibson and Victim #7 June Stotts. June Stotts was the only murder that ever affected him

This last episode of Season 3 will cover the sudden death of Arthur John Shawcross, Our last visit was September 8th, 9th, and 10th 2008Arthur John Shawcross died November 10th, 2008This is the final storyBefore he died he says in a letter:“You're Welcome Anthony, I have written and given you what I have never given to anyone else Anthony and that is a blow by blow of the crimes I did in Rochester. As for the other two crimes that will stay hidden. Don't even go there. Actually I have sent you many things that no one has ever gotten from me. You're a good friend Anthony.”Art tells Tony that Son of Sam David Berkowitz was in a cult and he didn't commit the murders alone.This was in 2007 and Tony and Al thought this was prison gossip and mainly bullshit. Now it's thought to be true. Tony will cover the descriptions of the last 3 victims of ShawcrossIn his last letter Art asks: “Did you get the return photos yet that I signed from your visit?”These were photos that he signed from our last visit with Arthur John Shawcross 

Tony and Al take questions from Top Tier MurderphoniacsTony and Al share the audio from the very first Buy Me A Coffee Murderphonic member Zoom call. This up close and personal zoom call with Tony and his dad is a great forum for really getting to know the hosts of Murder Phone. The discussion covers general questions such as”Which season did you like the bestWho is the worst serial killer out of the 3 seasonsWhat would you like done with the Root Cellar and ScalpsWho would you like to see us cover? And Specific Questions such as: In regards to Arthur Shawcross, did he ever speak to you about his daughter? And if so, was he happy to have her find him?  In regards to all of the SK's you've spoken to have any of their victims families or even their own family reached out to you at all? Understanding that you obviously can't go into details but have your letters from SK's ever helped police with cold cases and if so how many approximately? 

Host Tony Ciaglia a TBI survivor shares some of his writings about Life with A Brain Injury

Megan Emerick went missing in 1973 from Anchorage, Alaska and is still listed as a missing person. She was believed to be a victim of serial killer Robert Hansen, and the case still remains open.This is a long and involved story that covers a lot of years of investigation. Tony and his dad Al will be covering every aspect of this investigation, from its beginnings in 2008 to where we currently are today. Remember what we've always said, the wheels of justice move slowly Tony will share Manfred's inspirational story of how he beat all the odds and has totally rehabilitated himself while in prison. He is a changed person and Tony and Manfried have developed a close friendship over the last 15 years. Manfried West spent 7 long years in a cell with Robert Hansen, Alaska's worst known serial killer, and is willing to share the stories and information he learned during his time with Hansen.With the help of Manfried West, Tony will finish the quest he started with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children over 14 years ago. The information that West supplies will hopefully lead to discovering Hansen's secret cabin, and “Finding Megan Emerick.” 

Manfred Forest West was born in 1956 in Jayville New York. He is in prison for murder 2 and other charges. Manfried grew up angry and mad at life in the backwoods of the  mountains in upstate New York. They lived 4 miles from the nearest neighbors, the deep wilderness became his playground. Creeks, lakes, and old abandoned trail roads, caves and trees. His toys were sticks, old car parts, deer and bear skulls. Manfred's Father was a drunk, lived off the land hunting and trapping year-round. The family lived near a large swamp with the sounds of bullfrogs bellyaching all night, until his dad came home drunk. Then it was his turn to get beat.Manfried remembers the early morning dawn washing over the swamp, hearing the birds sing and wishing that his father was dead. He ran away at the age of 15, off to town, jail, prison. Manfried seemed to meet all the wrong people, learn all the wrong things, and he just let himself fall through the cracks of life.This story however is not how he became a criminal, but how he changed himself into the man he is today.They say people can't change, but Manfried West has proved them all wrong. This is his amazing story. 

Manfried walked through life with nothing but Hatred and Anger controlling his actions. He learned and lived the criminal life style at an early age. Manfrieds mom talks about his terrible upbringing and the way he was treated by his father. The frequent beatings and constant mental abuse. His mother admits how she failed him. Manfried tells how he shot his friend Joe Volger and how he should have died when a cabin he was in burned and collapsed on him. In prison now Manfried West was at the very bottom. He hated everyone including himself and decides to commit suicide.You will hear Manfried tell the whole story in his own words, including a most unusual conclusion.  

In this episode we're going all the way back to when Manfried West met his “Cellmate from Hell” Robert Hansen for the very first time. We will hear directly from Manfried West what it was like sharing a cell with the Butcher Baker.  Hansen covered up who he was and acted so nice, you would never know how bad he is because he wears the Serial Killer Mask even in prison.Manfried had to read a book about Hansen's crimes before he realized what he did. Hansen didn't talk much about killing girls, but he did talk about the cabin that has never been found, where he took Megan Emerick and Mary Thill You will hear some of the disgusting stories of the sick idiosyncrasies of a true psychopath.Hansen and Manfried were both loners, they endured similar childhoods and they both hated their fathers. The phone conversations will literally bring you into the cell with the worst serial killer in Alaskan history.

Manfried West and Robert Hansen, Nature vs Nurture: Manfried West nicknamed Robert Hansen “The Worm” This is his story.Robert Hansen grew up hating his father who constantly subjected him to ridicule and mockery, and a mother who was compliant in the harsh treatment of her son. The bullying Hansen suffered as a child shaped his hatred of women. He was painfully shy, had a stutter and severe acne that left him permanently scarred. Not receiving the attention he wanted from the attractive girls in school, Hansen grew up hating them and nursing fantasies of cruel revenge.Robert Hansen doesn't have the same kind of name recognition that someone like Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy does but he was one of the country's most prolific serial killers.He admitted to a spree of attacks against Alaskan women starting in 1971. Hansen's earliest victims were girls or young women, usually between ages 16 and 19 and not prostitutes. After abducting them, he would either rape them and release them with a warning, or fly them  in his personal plane out into a remote location, where he would hunt them like animals and kill them.Hansen is known to have raped and assaulted over thirty Alaskan women, and to have murdered at least seventeen, ranging in age from 16 to 41.Hansen slipped through the cracks of justice many times and would have again it if wasn't for the heroics of victim Cindy Paulson and Detective Glenn Frothe. 

Tony and Al prepare to go to Alaska to visit Manfried and meet Robert Hansen at  the Alaskan Native Dinner.However Tony had no way of knowing that things were happening that would change the course of his relationship with West.During the next several months you will see a dramatic change in the events surrounding Manfried and Hansen!Hansen went from being Bob, to being referred to as The Worm, and for good reason. Tony is going to take you through all of the stories, twists and turns and strange events that happened during his  search for Megan Emerick and The Cabin where she's buried.Manfried asked for Tony's help but at this time it was just looking things up on the computer.Tony  had no idea how deep this would go!

Tony reveals a letter that Manfred's attorney sent to the Parole Board in 2022 although Manfried's hearing isn't until 2025. This is not a normal occurrence and you can see that Mr. Satterberg  clearly believes that Manfried acted in self defense, and that he has reformed himself and deserves parole. Tony hears about the Cabin for the first time and the fact that Hansen told him where it is. Tony and Al were heading to Alaska for a visit with Manfried when all hell breaks loose. Somehow Hansen finds out that Manfried has been talking to the F.B.I. about him, and the prison puts Manfried in The Hole for his own protection. The visit is cancelled and Manfried asks Tony for more help.  

The odyssey to find "The Cabin" continues. The search becomes very real when the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children gets involved. Manfried finally gets out of the hole and you'll hear a conversation between Tony and him describing how he handled the Hansen situation. West gets sent to an Arizona prison on Con Air and he continues to ask Tony for help on the Cabin and finding Megan Emerick and Mary Thill. Tony is busy trying to keep up with writing to the other 20 to 30 killers he's corresponding with so his time is limited. Manfried finally peaks Tony's interest and after not having success with the FBI, Tony calls the Seward Alaska police and after 40 years gets the case reopened. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children get involved and they set up to visit Tony at his home.You will hear the very first call between Manfried and Tony back in June of 2007 as Manfried thanks Tony for his help and awaits the agents visit. 

I suffered a severe TBI in July 1992 when I was struck in the head by a jet ski. Very little was know back then about Traumatic Brain Injury and it was a miracle that I survived.  Traumatic Brain Injury then was known as “The Silent Epidemic”.It is now March 2023, more than 30 years after my accident, and TBI is still considered The Silent Epidemic. It is my mission in life to try and shed some light on this terrible injury and to enlighten the public on the life long effects that this injury has had on me and my family.Debilitating psychiatric problems are common and equally devastating to the patient. Among them, depression, is on the top of the list, followed by anxiety and bipolar disorder. According to studies there is also an increased risk of alcohol and substance-related problems and suicidal thoughts.I'm going to share a narrative that I wrote titled “Living Life with a Brain Injury”. I hope you will listen, because it was written from my heart and is all true. It's my hope that after hearing it you will have a better understanding of what TBI does and someday we can stop calling it “The Silent Epidemic”. I'm also sharing audio of my appearance on The Doctors Show and a lecture I gave at The University Of Wisconsin about Living with a TBI and of course Serial Killers. If you want to see the presentation (which is pretty cool) check it out on our Murderphone You Tube Channel. Take care, Stay SafeAnd Remember Always Walk In The Calm after the Storm

Tony has suffered with severe depression for the past 4 weeks, so he felt it was time for some light hearted comedy. Today he will share his fictional tale about a really bad day.  It's titled “Fuck My Life”Tony's favorite pastime is writing and over the years his favorite topic was comedy. He often would send the criminals copies of his writings.Manfried especially loved Tony's stories. Tony shared Fuck My Life with him back in September of 2008. You will hear a short conversation clip with Manfred's reaction to the story. Tony talks about the next episode that will be posted on Monday March 27th. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children will be joining the hunt for “The Cabin”. 

The ball is rolling and The National center for Missing and Exploited Children have joined the search for the Cabin where Megan Emerick is buried.Megan was last seen in Seward, Alaska on July 7, 1973. Investigators believe the serial killer Robert Hansen may have been involved in Megan's disappearance, but he denied any involvement in her case. Hansen did admit to Manfried that he brought Megan Emerick out to the Cabin, killed her and buried her there.  Hansen drew a sketch of the cabin in his cell and crumpled it up and threw it away. Manfried retrieved it and sent the original to Tony. Tony made a copy and shared it with The Center for Missing and Exploited Children.Manfried sent Tony his  personal Journal that covers from May 2008 to March 9th 2009. The daily entries really give you a true perspective of what it's like being in prison. 

Tony explains that because of what happened to Megan Emerick, Mary Thill and the rest of Hansens victims that we owe it to them to cover this the right way. The whole point of this season is to complete the search for this cabin  that we started in 2008, and we're going to need a lot of help with this. It has to become a Murderphoniac team effort. I believe that everyone that sticks with us and is involved will have a feeling of satisfaction like never before. After 15 years it's high time we bring Megan Emerick home. Tony and Al cover the Newspaper article that was published in Anchorage, Alaska September 28th 2008. Tony sets the record straight and clears up the many inaccuracies that were in the article.The article came as a complete surprise, and It's pretty clear that this could have put all of their lives in danger. 

The  newspaper article is once again causing big problems for Manfried. Manfried tells Tony that he wants to meet with the lady from Seward, Shiela Squires and Agent Gary who didn't know about the article. He wanted nothing to do with the agent that he felt leaked the article that truly put him in danger. At this time they are seriously looking for the cabin, but Agent Gary is still going to Gage and trying to get information from other people. Manfried doesn't understand this because only two people know where the cabin is, him and Hansen. Manfried is told he will be moved for his safety, but it doesn't happen and once again he is put in the hole and loses everything. The movie The Frozen ground was announced and it seemed to really affect the investigation. Manfried was still willing to do his part and actually said in a letter, “if he was given the proper tools he could put them within one mile of the infamous cabin,” but he had lost all faith in Agent Gary. 

Tony discusses questions he has received about living life with a TBI. Manfried is so happy to be back in Alaska. Listen to a conversation he has just after he gets back. Manfried really wants to find Megan Emerick, but he's beginning to think something is up. Everything went silent and none of us know why. Manfried once again reiterates that he can pinpoint the location of the cabin if he can just get a little help.Manfried sends some more exciting information about the cabin hoping it will peak Agent Gary's interest. In August 2013 after reaching out several times Tony receives a call from Agent Gary. He informs Tony that although the information was great and it all checked out they were ordered to stop the investigation. Unfortunately no details were supplied. Tony, Al and Manfried realize they are now On Their Own and they agree to continue to work on finding the cabin themselves.

In this Special Episode Tony share's one of his original writings from 2008. The Venom of the Black Widow is the story of a woman that just can't stand the thought of her boyfriend leaving her. Laverne Holton has her own unique way of keeping the man she loves close to her. 

In 2013 for some unknown reason the plug was pulled on the investigation to find the cabin where Megan Emerick was buried.Tony and Manfried never gave up and decided they would use all the information that they had compiled and move ahead on their own.Tony was constantly trying other ways to find Hansen's cabin. This included many attempts through Hollywood connections that always led to dead ends. In 2017 Tony was receiving puzzling emails from Manfried regarding a Production company and Missing and Exploited Children looking to talk with Manfried again about finding the cabin. Manfried didn't trust anyone after what happened so he made the decision he would only talk with Tony about this. He wanted the cabin found but wanted to do it right. There are several present day conversations that are very interesting and further confirm the fact that Manfried is a changed manShayne Emerick who is Megan Emerick's nephew talks with Tony about what he heard about Megan when he was growing up, and how her disappearance affected the whole family.

Tony and Manfried are now in present day so everything they do from now on is about finding the cabin and of course bringing Megan Emerick home. Tony had to make sure that Manfried was still on board so he asks him if he still wants to try to find the cabin.He shares their most recent conversation, and here is just a little of what we learn:Manfried wants to do it, but you can tell he's fed up.The only one he trusts to be involved is Tony.Hansen built the cabin with his wife and 2 small children in 1970.He only had his boat in Seward back then .  No plane. He took 2 girls there by boat. One named Megan in 1973 and he thinks maybe Mary 1975. Hansen said one went in The Bay and one was buried.Tony shares another conversation with Megan Emerick's nephew Shayne that will blow your mind.  Shayne talks about things that no one has ever heard including his father. 

Tony and Al have a fascinating discussion with Bill Satterberg. Bill was Manfred's attorney back when Joe Vogler was killed. Bill talked with Manfried before our call and received permission from him to talk about the case.We learn exactly how the killing of Joe Vogler took place and that Bill felt Manfried had an excellent self defense case.You will hear the real story of how Joe Voglers body was found. No one has ever heard this story including Bill Satterberg. During there  last call West revealed for the first time what really transpired and gave Bill permission to share it with Tony and Murder Phone. Of course we discuss the Hansen case, the cabin, and how Bill can help in the search for Megan Emerick. Bill has lived in Alaska for most of his life and has practiced law there for over 40 years. He knows the state and will be an incredible help in finding the cabin and bringing Megan Emerick home. 

Tony and Al welcome Joey to the podcast to discuss how they are going to finally find Hansen's secret cabin. When these 3 get together you need to get ready to laugh.A summary of  the season and where they are at today.The guys go over man of the clues and information that they will use to find the cabin.Tony sums up why they believe now is the time to find the cabin:We have Manfried's notes, We the map of the coastline where the cabin is, pictures of the cabin, We have satellite technology of the areas, We have the route Hansen took, We have what we can expect to find in the cabinWe now have the connections to get Manfried what he needs  (and I quote)  “if I had the proper tools I will get them so close to the cabin that they can't help but find it.”We need your help so we started a Go Fund Me Page which will have a link posted on our web page, our socials and email too. From this link you will be directed to our page where you can Donate and Share the link. Do whatever you can and we promise we'll do the rest.Please believe us that when we find this cabin and send Megan Emerick home to her family, the people that are involved will feel a sense of Euphoria like they have never experienced in their lifetime.

Tony, Al and Joey have a question and answer call with some of the Murderphoniacs!Points of Discussion:Manfried West's remarkable story of changeRobert Hansen and his secret cabinOur future trip tp Alaska and how our Murderphoniacs can helpClues regarding finding Hansen's secret cabinA surprise call on the Murder Phone from Hadden Clark A discussion of what was their favorite season. What killer would they like us to cover next. 

Tony, Al and Joey have a question and answer call with some of the MurderphoniacsManfried West's remarkable artworkRobert Hansen and his secret cabinOur future trip tp Alaska and how our Murderphoniacs can helpClues regarding finding Hansen's secret cabinA discussion of what was their favorite season. What killer would they like us to cover next. 

A serial killers true life story as told by Joe Metheny to Tony Ciaglia over a 7 year relationship. In the first of 12 episodes Tony and Al discuss some of the things they will be covering this season as they take a deep dive into the little known real life of Joe Metheny.Metheny's first kill of a 12 year old girl when he was 15Metheny discusses why he became a serial killer Killed mostly hookers and he enjoyed torturing them before he killed themWhen he was a trucker he would pick hookers up at truck stops. First he would torture them, then kill them.Enjoys screwing dead bodies the most. Discussions of victims he was never convicted of.He ran a BBQ stand and would add human flesh to his pork sandwiches. True or bullshit? Tony will detail everything he learned by personally asking Metheny face to face. Detailed accounts of Tony and Al's several visits with this monster.

In todays episode we're going to get to know a little bit about Joe MethenyJoe Metheny is the personification of evil. He didn't try to hide who he was, there were no masks. He is one of the most vile people that you will ever hear about. Tony explains that when he got the letter from Metheny in January 2007 he really didn't know anything about these maniacs back then. But now after 15 years of communicating with them and learning so much about these psychopaths, It's like he got a PHD in Psychiatry!Based on his years of experience Tony will dissect a letter in a way to show how a psychopath tries to act normal but they can't. Metheny didn't wear a physical mask to hide who he was, but he sure tried to hide behind his words.This lesson in serial killer psychopathy really gives the listeners a frame of reference for future letters. 

This episode starts with Tony reading a description of one of Joe Metheny's chilling murders. Metheny describes why he believes his mom is at fault for him becoming a serial killer. In a letter titled “Tears of a Child” Metheny describes his childhood and how he was left on the streets of Baltimore at the age of 6 to fend for himself. Tony and Al through Metheny's letters and phone calls prove that Metheny is a narcissistic sociopath that truly has no feelings or empathy for what he has done over the years. He totally lies about his upbringing.Metheny finally admits that he has no use for Jesus and says that “Jesus is dead and Satan rules over all of us!” 

Tony and Al revisit Tony's Near death Experience from 1993Discussion about a new movie titled “After Death brings excitement and new discussion to the fact that there really is Life after DeathMetheny discusses how he was a serial killer in the making since his early childhood. From hurting insects then animals to other kids in his neighborhood.Metheny talks in detail with Tony about his first kill. Something he has never discussed before. He was 15 and his victim was a 12 year old red haired girl. Metheny discusses his feelings after his first killing:"The first is exciting with your adrenaline rushing and then a fear of getting caught"."The second is a little easier but you're more paranoid because you got away with the 1st and you don't want to get caught"."The rest after that it's like swatting flies. You will have no feelings at all".

Metheny sends Tony an unexpected present. He also describes more about his first kill experiences.Joe Metheny sends Tony a tooth that he pulled out of his mouth. This tooth actually consumed human flesh.Metheny also provides Tony with a T Shirt that is a 9 Large which give you an idea of the size of this monster.  IOn the T-Shirt Tiny depicts in cartoon form what he used to do to his victims as he prepared them to serve at his BBQ stand. Al and Tony show and describe both the Tooth and T- shirt on the show. You can see them both on the You Tube channel or Buy Me a Coffee. Metheny actually admits to losing his virginity to a German Shepard named Sheena. Given the dark and disgusting nature of these subjects Tony and Al add a lot of humor to try and lighten the mood. 

Joe Metheny discusses with Tony what life is like in prison, describes in detail who his “Prison Brothers” were. Metheny's letters are so detailed and are always fascinating, putting the listener right in the middle of the story.Tiny describes how he thought he saw a ghost when describing one of the female guards. She reminded him of the 12 year old girl that was his first kill back in 1970. He lost control and his actions once again ended up with him being put in the dreaded hole.   Finally he describes another of his murders that he was never caught for. In detail he discusses the killing of a prostitute while he was a trucker out on the road. Even giving details where it happened and where she is to this day. Joe always intimated that victims were readily available to over the road truckers and he took full advantage. 

In todays episode Tony and Al are going to cover the question they have been receiving from our Murderphoniacs.Is Joe Metheny is a true sociopath?Tony actually asks Metheny on a rare phone call if he thinks he's a sociopath, and receives an answer you have to hear.Tony shares a heartwarming story that he wrote to a friend who lost her sister. He wanted to see how Metheny would respond. In disgusting detail Joe Metheny describes the obscene murder of Catherine Magaziner and how she ended up ready to cook on his grill.The horror he describes could never be made up even in the scariest horror stories. You will hear the story right from the monsters mouth.  

Joe Metheny talks about how he did the many girls that he killed a favor. His favorite line was "They were just drug addicted bitches with one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave."Tony asks Metheny a question that he asks all of the serial killers he's writing: This is very short but important to me in gaining knowledge about you. When your life is over tell me what it is that you want to be remembered as? Metheny's answer is priceless! Metheny the conman continues to whine about being broke. He offered to cut off the little finger on his left hand and sell it to Tony for $500.00.He offers the location of two bodies to Tony for $500.00 The episode ends with Metheny telling a story about a mother and little daughter that he met in a truck stop. It may show a side of Metheny that we never knew existed. 

Joe Metheny admits to brutally murdering 6 year old Robin and her mother Kelly. The blood chilling details are not for the faint hearted. Just when you think Metheny is done talking about his First Kill he comes with more details about what he did on the anniversary of her murder.Once again Joe aka Tiny toys with the idea of giving Tony the locations of his many victims. He continues to ask for money for this information, and when he realizes Tony will not pay he becomes angry and the true Serial Killer comes out. Metheny compares himself in a letter to Ted Bundy and it's a truly interesting self description of the two serial killers. Tony gives his hysterical take on what service he thinks Siri should provide

Tony and Al are going to take a short holiday break.Tony describes a little bit about the final 3 episodes of Season 5 Tony talks about depression and how it's tough during the holiday season.Tony shares one of his writings titled "Pull The Plug", which covers a low point in his life with a Traumatic Brain Injury. 

Tony and Al announce  when Season 5 Episode 10 will resume.Tony shares scenes from his screenplay “Madness”.It's a fictional story based on the many serial killers that Tony has corresponded with over the last 15 years. 

Tony takes you back to July 2010 on one of his investigative trips to meet with the Monster Joe Roy MethenyTony and Al actually visit Joe Metheny in prison. They are the only visitors this monster ever had other than detectivesDuring the two days of visits Tony recounts the many stories that Metheny shared with them. He spoke openly of killings he was never charged with, his fascination with having sex with corpses, prison life and how he loved being a truck driver. At one point Tony and Al describe the terrifying feeling of almost being in the middle of a prison riot caused by Metheny.They share videos that have never been seen before of their trip.These videos will make you feel like you were  there with them as you search for the grave of the 12 year old girl that Metheny claimed as the victim of his first kill.  Visit the Murder Phone You Tube Channel for a one of a kind look into the life of one of the worst serial killers that ever lived. 

Tony takes you back to July 2010 when he visits Joe Roy Metheny in prison.Tony and Al share videos of their trip that have never been seen before and they will make you feel like you were  there with them. You will go under the bridge with us where he murdered 5 people and tasted human meat for the first timeYou will see The Border Line Bar and Grill where he hung out and hired prostitutesYou will see The McDonalds where he picked up his last victimYou will visit Joe Stein's Pallet Company where he worked by day and killed by nightYou will meet some of Tiny's old friends and hear what they had to say about himYou will visit the location of Tiny's infamous Open Pit BBQ Stand and find out if he really served human flesh to his customers. In this episode you will find out if he really served Human Flesh on his sandwiches or if Joe Roy Metheny has been lying all of these years!

Tony, his brother Joey and his Dad help him wrap up the entire season. Given all the information that Metheny has shared it is quite a task. This Episode is a must watch on You Tube. Tony shares some new videos of Joe Metheny's neighbor, and where Joe lived before he was arrested. In order to help tell Metheny's story and prove he was telling the truth Tony also shares all the seasons videos in an order that will help clarify everything.Metheny talks about his truck driving days and how the road was a “killers paradise”. Almost everything that Metheny confessed to, was investigated by Tony and Al, and they believed that he was telling the truth.They share everything with local investigators and The Center for Missing and Exploited Children hoping Metheny's confessions will help solve some cold cases and bring closure to the victims families. During the penalty phase Metheny addressed the jury and this is part of what he said: “The words I'm sorry will never come out for they would be a lie. I am more than willing to give up my life for what I have done, to have God judge me and send my ass to hell for eternity. There is no excuse for the things I have done to those people. I just enjoyed it. So I ask of you, please give me the fucking death penalty”Joseph Roy Metheny was found dead in his cell on August 5, 2017, and at that point his wish for death came true. Joe Metheny aka Tiny is now residing in the fires of hell.

Ken Bianchi's life long wish was that his story could be told  to the world to prove his innocence. This season we will grant his wish and present his case. Ken through old phone calls and letters will act as his defense lawyer and try to lie over and over again to prove he is an innocent victim.Tony and his dad will be the prosecutors and present the case that proves he is a lying, psychopathic serial killer that ruthlessly killed 12 innocent girls and he is right where he belongs.The Murderphoniacs all over the world will be our jury and they will be able to communicate their feelings if he is guilty or not.This first episode will set up the beginnings of a relationship between Bianchi and Tony that lasted over 7 years. Tony became close with Ken's mom through many phone calls and a visit. The closer their relationship became, the more holes Tony could see in Ken and his mom's relationship. Bianchi is a coward that has never manned up to the terrible crimes he committed.