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In this session, we spoke with Michele DeStefano about how we can approach change, manage it and leverage it for the benefit of lawyer and allied legal professional wellbeing, for our clients, and legal businesses. Michele knows a thing or two about this from her many roles as law professor, business founder, educator, consultant, and serial entrepreneur. Her work is visionary tempered with a strong dose of reality and, getting stuff done! Michele has been building the foundations, paving the road, and walking the talk of legal ecosystem transformation for many years and, helping others to do that successfully too. We discussed what it will take to change the legal industry, the BIG pieces of the change puzzle - lawyer mindset, human-centred design, multidisciplinary collaboration and culture. We also chatted about how to combine the pieces in a way that creates sustained agility in a VUCA (volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous) world, it can be found in her most recent book (one of many already published with more to come), The Leader Upheaval Handbook: Lead Teams on an Innovation & Collaboration Journey with the 3-4-5 Method. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this podcast, you'll find the video here. About the Future 50 Series In the Future 50 Series, we're chatting with legalpreneurs who, through their ideas and actions, are challenging and transforming legal BAU all around the world. If you would like to recommend people for this Series, please contact us at: CLI@collaw.edu.au.
We investigate the impact of the seemingly sudden leap in AI capability on in house legal teams. The way organisations perform legal functions will change. Hear how from Alastair Morrison, Lucy Shurwood and Orlando Conetta of Pinsent Masons, and University of Miami law professor Michele DeStefano.
Michele DeStefano is the Founder of Movelaw, a company that brings a human-centered design perspective to the law industry in order to retain lawyers, create culture change, develop a collaborative approach, leverage technology, and bring cross-border initiatives to fruition. Michele is also an author, speaker, consultant, and facilitator in these areas of expertise. Michele is a Professor at the University of Miami School of Law, affiliated faculty at Harvard Law School Executive Education and IE Law School, Founder of LawWithoutWalls, and Co-curator of the Compliance Elliance Journal. She has been recognized as a “Legal Rebel” by the American Bar Association and as one of the “Top 20 Most Innovative Lawyers” by the Financial Times. Michele researches and writes about the intersections between law, business, and innovation. She has authored two books that leverage perspectives from countless lawyers and leaders on innovation, technology, and the future ecosystem of the legal sector. For Michele, creating a collaborative, culture-based firm relies heavily on innovation, creativity, and a team that's ready to drive change. In this episode… How can change-averse lawyers get on the path to innovation? What does it take to create a culture shift and build up a team of like-minded individuals? According to Michele DeStefano, creativity breeds innovation. Luckily, she says we are all born creative — yes, even lawyers — and drawing out this creativity is a launching point for change. You must leave behind the meticulous research, over analyzation, and hesitation to really get on the innovation track. Embrace the creative, be open to opportunities, start small, and begin with yourself. When you lead with these characteristics, your team will follow, and you'll make a significant difference in the industry. In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge Podcast, Elise Holtzman talks with Michele DeStefano, Founder of Movelaw, about the mindset and behavior shifts needed to innovate. Michele shares why you need a team of like-minded early adopters, how to generate culture change on a big scale, and the importance of crafting a team-centered approach. Michele also discusses her 3-4-5 method for change and why a diversified network is a key to success!
Michele DeStefano, Legal Rebel: Michele DeStefano, Professor at the University of Miami School of Law, affiliated faculty at Harvard Law School Executive Education and Founder and Director of LawWithoutWalls joins host Richard Levick to discuss the practice of law, legal education, law firm recruitment and the importance of humility, inclusivity and risk. She is the author of two books, Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation in Law and New Suits: Appetite for Disruption in the Legal World (co-curated with Dr. Guenther Dobrauz) and includes chapters by experts in law, innovation and technology to provide a global perspective on the future of our diverse legal service delivery ecosystem. She spoke at the Law Firm Marketing Summit.
Creativity is one of the most important skills for a modern lawyer. We all were born creative but somehow along the way many adults seem to have lost their creativity. But the good news is that creativity can be practised, just like lawyers practice law to become better at their field of law. Creativity and innovation are hard work and new ideas to make law better aren't born magically overnight. We might often think that changing law and the legal industry require BIG innovation, but what if thinking smaller and putting the oxygen mask on yourself first are the things to start with? In this episode Michele DeStefano shares her career story and encourages us all to embrace our people skills and creativity. Michele is Professor of Law at the University of Miami and Faculty Chair in Harvard Law School's Executive Education. She's the founder of LawWithoutWalls and MoveLaw.
Today, our guest is Michele DeStefano, a professor; author; speaker; and independent consultant on innovation, technology, culture, and cross-practice, cross-border initiatives. Before entering the legal ecosphere, she had a career in advertising and marketing for some ubiquitous brand names. Michele brings that experience to her work with lawyers and legal teams, helping them to identify problems, design solutions, and use storytelling for buy-in and adoption. Listen in to our conversation to learn why Michele thinks lawyers should go to marketing school, why getting everyone on the same problem plane is so critical to innovation efforts, and to hear about the unique work she is doing with Law Without Walls and the Digital Legal Exchange.
Michele DeStefano is the founder and leader of Law Without Walls, or LWOW, a pioneering program for team- and project-based legal education that gathers students and partners from around the world. She is a full-time professor of law at the University of Miami who has also documented her methods and published research on their effectiveness. Mike Madison talks with Michele about the origins and impacts of LWOW. Michele DeStefano's biography at the University of Miami. The Law Without Walls website. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode number 7 of the Everything Except the Law Podcast! This time we're talking with Michele DeStefano. Michele is the founder of LawWithoutWalls, an organization dedicated to changing how lawyers and business professionals partner to solve problems. She has also taught at some of the country's top law schools, and has written multiple books on the growing intersections between law, business, and legal innovation. Check out the LawWithoutWalls site here: http://lawwithoutwalls.org/Here's a link to Michele's latest book: "Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation in Law" https://www.amazon.com/Legal-Upheaval-Creativity-Collaboration-Innovation/dp/1641051205Subscribe to the Answering Legal Channel so you never miss an episode of Everything Except the Law. Read more helpful stuff from Answering Legal here:The Business Side of Running a Law Firm: https://www.answeringlegal.com/blog/l...Alternatives to Hiring a Law Firm Receptionist: https://www.answeringlegal.com/blog/t...The 11 Best Legal Softwares of 2020: https://www.answeringlegal.com/blog/1...Interested in learning more about Answering Legal? Book an appointment to speak with us here: https://www.answeringlegal.com/schedu...Give us a call at 631-400-8000 or go to www.answeringlegal.com
Michele DeStefano is the Founder and Executive Director of LawWithoutWalls, and Professor of Law, University of Miami. She’s an author, speaker, independent consultant, and facilitator to law firms, corporate legal departments, and legal startups on innovation and technology, culture creation, teaming, and cross-practice, cross-border initiatives. Michele is the author of Legal Upheaval and New Suits.
As the global pandemic sweeps the globe and education go remote, Michele DeStefano adroitly navigates the fast-moving stream. Recorded on April 2, 2020.
Progressing to meet the needs of changing technology and new legal business models is not an easy task for many lawyers and their staff, but is increasingly necessary as the profession moves into the future. Ralph Baxter hosts as Legalweek 2020 panelists Michele DeStefano, Bill Garcia, and Ari Kaplan offer key tactics from their session for fostering effective change management. Michele DeStefano is the founder of LawWithoutWalls, a professor of law at the University of Miami, and affiliated faculty at Harvard Law School’s Executive Education Program. Bill Garcia is chief practice innovation officer at Thompson Hine, LLP. Ari Kaplan is the founder of Ari Kaplan Advisors and a legal industry analyst and speaker.
Progressing to meet the needs of changing technology and new legal business models is not an easy task for many lawyers and their staff, but is increasingly necessary as the profession moves into the future. Ralph Baxter hosts as Legalweek 2020 panelists Michele DeStefano, Bill Garcia, and Ari Kaplan offer key tactics from their session for fostering effective change management. Michele DeStefano is the founder of LawWithoutWalls, a professor of law at the University of Miami, and affiliated faculty at Harvard Law School’s Executive Education Program. Bill Garcia is chief practice innovation officer at Thompson Hine, LLP. Ari Kaplan is the founder of Ari Kaplan Advisors and a legal industry analyst and speaker.
This month the LeftFoot Podcast features Michele DeStefano; her recent book Legal Upheaval provides the backdrop for a conversation focused on innovation in today’s legal environment. Through her work and research for her book, Michele confirmed that clients are looking for a new type of collaborative service disguised in their request for innovation. Along with lawyers that know their practice area, can guide and have a point of view; using business language to convey it; clients want lawyers that express the behaviors of innovators – asking different questions, listening and applying a different approach to problem finding and problem resolution. Let’s look at an example. A bank was struggling to show they had complied with a consumer-facing compliance request. In this circumstance, an advisor would typically help the bank show and communicate that they’re in compliance. The alternative response included talking with and hearing from consumers. This bank didn’t have a compliance problem, they had a communication issue, once contacted the consumers noted that they didn’t understand the process employed. The result was education for consumers – and proof of compliance for the bank. Recognizing the disconnect between what customers ask for and what lawyers deliver; this is an example of the culture change occurring within in-house legal and firms. They’re working jointly, investing in partnerships, and sharing risks to advance the industry. Michele DeStefano is a lawyer, professor at the University of Miami, and guest faculty at Harvard Law School’s Executive Education program. In her book Legal Upheaval, she provides evidence that collaborative innovation is the new value equation in law.
I spoke with Michele DeStefano, a professor of law at the University of Miami School of Law and the founder & executive director of LawWithoutWalls, a think tank designed to create innovations at the intersection of law, business, and technology. She is also a guest faculty member at Harvard Law School's Executive Education program and the author of the newly released book, Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation (American Bar Association, 2018). We discussed her background and work at the University of Miami School of Law, her motivation for writing Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation, why she founded LawWithoutWalls, how the profession has changed in the years since she created that organization, whether innovation can be measured, and where the legal industry is headed, among other topics.
I spoke with Michele DeStefano, a professor of law at the University of Miami School of Law and the founder & executive director of LawWithoutWalls, a think tank designed to create innovations at the intersection of law, business, and technology. She is also a guest faculty member at Harvard Law School’s Executive Education program and the author of the newly released book, Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation (American Bar Association, 2018). We discussed her background and work at the University of Miami School of Law, her motivation for writing Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation, why she founded LawWithoutWalls, how the profession has changed in the years since she created that organization, whether innovation can be measured, and where the legal industry is headed, among other topics.
I spoke with Michele DeStefano, a professor of law at the University of Miami School of Law and the founder & executive director of LawWithoutWalls, a think tank designed to create innovations at the intersection of law, business, and technology. She is also a guest faculty member at Harvard Law School’s Executive Education program and the author of the newly released book, Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation (American Bar Association, 2018). We discussed her background and work at the University of Miami School of Law, her motivation for writing Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation, why she founded LawWithoutWalls, how the profession has changed in the years since she created that organization, whether innovation can be measured, and where the legal industry is headed, among other topics.
I spoke with Michele DeStefano, a professor of law at the University of Miami School of Law and the founder & executive director of LawWithoutWalls, a think tank designed to create innovations at the intersection of law, business, and technology. She is also a guest faculty member at Harvard Law School’s Executive Education program and the author of the newly released book, Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation (American Bar Association, 2018). We discussed her background and work at the University of Miami School of Law, her motivation for writing Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation, why she founded LawWithoutWalls, how the profession has changed in the years since she created that organization, whether innovation can be measured, and where the legal industry is headed, among other topics.
Michele DeStefano is a professor of law at the University of Miami, Guest Faculty in Harvard Law School, Executive Education, and the founder of LawWithoutWalls, an international think-tank aimed at honing new skillsets and mindsets and creating innovations at the intersection of law, business, and technology. As a professor of law, DeStefano researches and writes about the growing intersections between law, business, and legal innovation. Her book Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation in Law leverages over 100 interviews of general counsels of large international corporations and heads of innovation at law firms. Lawyers-on-Fire has spoken with Michele about her new book, her advice to students and young professionals and her view on today’s and tomorrow’s legal world. Listen and get inspired: Why? What was your motivation to write this book? What’s happening? You describe technology, shifts in socio-economics and globalization as the main forces impacting the law market today. What do these trends mean for future lawyers? Most wanted persona? Your book takes into account more than hundred interviews you conducted with partners of law firms, GC and other legal professionals. If you summarize their expectations, what would be the ideal persona of a lawyer they would like to hire? And what is the reality? You talk about the Lawyer Skills Delta… Why innovate? Many lawyers, particularly in BigLaw, don't see any reason to change or innovate. Business is going well, changing working system is risky and innovation may even jeopardize the status quo. Yet you argue that there is a need for change because of a New Value Equation in law. What is this new equation about? After the whys let's talk about the how. Your advice is to create a culture of creativity, collaboration and innovation by having an open mind, an open heart and an open door. This reminds me to a concept of leadership I once learnt at university: a good leader has a cool head, busy hands and a warm heart. What are these three rules of engagement? Do you want to give examples? Finally, you identified three groups you believe will be the front runners leading the change and shaping the future legal marketplace. Who are they and what can they do?
Law.com senior reporter Karen Sloan talks with Michele DeStefano, author of “Legal Upheaval: A Guide to Creativity, Collaboration, and Innovation in Law," about the tangible, lasting and meaningful ways in which the law firms need to evolve, and how they get there.
It wouldn’t be overstating it to say that Michele DeStefano is a visionary in the legal industry. As a highly respected lawyer, academic, author, speaker, marketer and entrepreneur, Michelle is pioneering new ways of thinking about how we practice law and what the future of the industry looks like. One of the many feathers in Michele’s cap is as founder of Law Without Walls, a virtual global collaborative group of some 1,500 change agents who are dedicated to changing how lawyers and business professionals partner to solve problems. Michelle’s insights are marvelous for both practicing lawyers and students or younger members of the profession who are looking to understand where the future of the industry is headed. Here’s what we delve into in this episode: The biggest pitfalls of the lawyer’s mindset Why lawyers will need a range of skills beyond legal expertise The impetus behind Law Without Walls Why law is essentially a creative practice The difference between problem solving and problem finding The change in focus to how lawyers work not what they do Why lawyers need to find how to add value Why lawyers’ careers won’t be as straightforward C.O.S.T skills explained The role of T.N.T. innovation – tiny noticeable things The impact of marketing on the profession Why we need to get rid of the word pitch Why lawyers should consider marketing as a career Changing the way lawyers and clients collaborate together Links: Law Without Walls Michele DeStefano - LinkedIn Legal Upheaval - book
Summary: Host Jules Miller talks with Michele DeStefano, founder of LawWithoutWalls. LawWithoutWalls, ("lwow") is a part-virtual global collaboratory of 750+ change agents dedicated to changing how lawyers and business professionals partner to solve problems. For the latest topics, trends and tech in the legal industry, subscribe to Evolve Law Podcast: A Catalyst for Legal Innovation. Listen as legal experts and leaders share insights about the legal industry. For more information, questions, or suggestions about our podcast feel free to email us at info@evolvelawnow.com Show Notes: 00:00 Introduction 00:21 Michele’s background in legal tech and law 01:47 What makes you a legal tech expert? 02:58 Why do you care about legal tech? 03:35 Why are you involved with Evolve Law? 04:26 Where do you think the biggest opportunity in legal technology is today and what should practicing attorneys be buying and using right now? 05:35 Where do you think the biggest opportunity in legal tech is in 3-5 years? 06:23 What advice would you give to lawyers who want to use these new technologies in their practice but don’t know where to start? 08:08 What tips would you share to help innovators increase adoption? 10:06 What other advice would you give to legal tech entrepreneurs who are starting and growing a business right now? 11:29 What are your final thoughts on the future of the legal industry? 12:24 Outro
This week, Sam talks with Michele DeStefano, law professor and founder of LawWithoutWalls, about how to be a creative problem solver.