4th and Forever

Were you expecting an AFC preview show by now? Well expect away, as we simply did not have time! NFL week 1 is in the books and the first game of week 2 has just finished... so I guess we best get talking!

16 teams in less than two hours? They said it couldn't be done, but we did it - to a level of reasonable quality too!

After a bit of an extended hiatus, Darren and Stuart are back! Easing into things with some talk of rookie QBs and wideouts, plus an up, a down and a new QB in LA.

Featuring the guest writings of The People's Football Poet, the boys recap the first round (and a bit) with a newfound energy! It's almost as if they were waiting for this moment and boy oh boy do they have some feelings!

"Don't overthink it" - it's the 2021 Mock Draft (1Rd) Spectaculaaaar!

Hall of Famers have retired, Dak got a contract, trades galore... and your two (least) favourite Scotsmen are back to cover it all! WE'RE BACK, BABY!

If you have enjoyed the thousands of hours of entertainment provided by the late, great Chris Wesseling, please donate to help Lakisha and Lincoln Wesseling: https://gofund.me/b182d58e   Well the Super Bowl happened. It wasn't as amazing as we might have hoped, but it still brought about an amazing result.

The AFC and NFC Championships were equal parts engaging and frustrating - from Stuart's perspective anyway.   Brady and the Bucs overcame a spluttering Packers side and Mahomes' Chiefs were too powerful for the Bills.   This week, after a very special introduction from noneother than the great Ross Tucker, Steve Bothwell steps in for Darren Butter to more than adequately fill our quota of grumpiness!

The Packers silenced the Lambs, the Bills plucked the Ravens, the Bucs swashbuckled the Saints and the Cheifs... "wiped out" the Browns...Quite the divisional round!

The first ever "SUPER" Wildcard Round did not disappoint - unlike Darren and Stuart, who can't even be available for a week 17 pod, but hey, we gotta holiday too!

The Jets suck so bad that they can't even lose right! The Steelers suck so bad and the Browns are hot on their tale, more bloody Jalen Hurts and... no Tua Watch?!

Lamar Jackson returns from "cramps" to lead the Ravens past the Browns, Jalen Hurts is good(?), Taysom Hill isn't good... and more!

Big surprises, Eagles bring the Hurts, Browns VS Ravens, the biggest games of the rest of the season - it's all fun and games as ever!

Different Covid strokes for different folks? What are your thoughts on the league's reaction to the Broncos and Ravens? The boys give some food for thought on this, the next Lions HC, the Raiders fall from grace and much more!

After another mini hiatus, the guys are back to discuss the last few weeks of the rookie QBs, the NFC south situation, RBs vs OL and if Carson Wentz is on the way out.

Hopefully the first of a more consistent offering from the boys. A few high-flying teams have had blips of late; are they in trouble?

There was a lot of insanity to unpack from week 7.Who are the teams to beat in the AFC and NFC?Just how bad is the NFC?And who do the guys have as their top offensive players so far?

After a bit of a hiatus, the boys are back with a new format! Gone are the days of game by game recaps and in come the more expansive chats on the state of the league.

After a bit of a hiatus, the boys are back with a new format! Gone are the days of game by game recaps and in come the more expansive chats on the state of the league.

One of the craziest NFL weeks in recent memory gave us plenty to work with this week!Are the Seahawks serious?Are the Saints slipping?Is Stuart stupid?All this and more in our 60th episode.

Week 1 of the NFL was a whirlwind, rollercoaster, slobberknocker, discombobulator of a week! And WE (yes, WE) are back and better than ever!

They said it couldn't be done: 3 pods in 2 days. In the books! The NFC West is almost as mental as my head after these last few days.

Stuart may sound like he's been lost in the desert with no water, but that's because he is working hard to bring you the best solo run-down of the good, the bad and the Washington Football Team of the NFC East.

TOLD YOU WE'D BE BACK BEFORE THE START OF THE SEASON! Stuart had to slam through a few on his own, but here is the crazy NFC South! TB in TB - Brees is wheeled out again - Will the Falcons blow it again? - Teddy Checkdown a franchise QB?

The incomparable (or should that be "incomprehensible"?) Steve Bothwell is back. Next on the agenda is the NFC North and there are a few differences of opinion in this one.

Steve Bothwell joins Stuart once again for the review of their beloved Broncos' division.Also featuring a brief appearance from Momma Bothwell!

Will this FINALLY be a "Changing Of The Guard" season in the AFC East? The Father and Son combo discuss this as well as Jamal Adams and the NFL 100 List.

Billy O-B is "playing chess", the Titans are rolling with it, the Colts are bouncing back and the Jags are... confusing...

The Ravens look great, the Steelers have questions, the Browns need to live up to expectations and the Bengals need to show us something!

We FINALLY got to 50 episodes!The NFL landscape is a little unpredictable at the moment. Darren and Stuart just talk facts, hopes, dreams and DOLLAZ DOLLAZ DOLLAAAAAZ!!!

Due to all manner of ailments, scheduling conflicts and all-round lockdown shenanigoats, we took our time getting round to this one. NFL DRAAAAAAAAFT!

The NFL Draft is less than two weeks away, so the lads thought that now is as good a time as any to let you know how it will go down... if there's no bloody trades, of course.

The world may be burning at the moment, but NFL free agency is giving us at least a little something to be excited about! Brady in Tampa, Nuke in Arizona, Diggs in Buffalo... there's too much! But we try and nail the big talking points.

We were in attendance at the Jerry Collins Stadium in Porirua for the inter-city tilt between the Auckland Vulcans and the Wellington Storm.

Stuart witnessed an extraordinary Capital Bowl this weekend and wants to talk about it! Also the XFL happened and there are some awards to be handed out.

The 2019-2020 NFL season culminated in the 54th Super Bowl clash, this time between the Chiefs and the 49ers. It was a doozie!

IT'S FINALLY HERE! You've made it! Super Bowl LIV between the Kansas City Chiefs and the San Francisco 49ers is upon us!Darren and Stuart talk through what they think will be the key factors in THE Big Game.

A little belated, but the boys get stuck into what happened in Championship weekend and have a little look ahead to the big one... but will hold off on the full preview til episode 43.

Big comebacks, hold on wins, a shock defeat and a pasting; the Divisional round had it all!

Have you recovered from the most wild wildcard rounds in NFL history? Me neither, but we'll try and get through (which is something the Patriots couldn't manage...)

After a busy Christmas and New Year period, Darren and Stuart get the Week 17 chat out of the way just in time for... PLAYOFFS BABAAAAAY!

A very sleepy and partially drunk Stuart takes 5 minutes out of his evening to blurb about the Vikings hosting the Packers.

The lads do a great job with their 2 Minute Drill teams... then it all falls apart for the mid and later games.*WANTED: A producer - must work for free*Anyway, here's a messy week 16!

Even in their attempts to cut through the crap and be efficient, Darren and Stuart can't help but spend too long on teams like the Browns, Redskins and Dolphins... it's fun though!

There's something in the air at 4th and Forever HQ: POLLEN! Bloody pollen! As Stuart attempts to prevent too much water escaping from his face, he and Darren sneeze and splutter their way through Week 14's recap.

Damn, we couldn't get rid of Darren, so it's back to 90 minute leviathan-casts!The lads talk Ron Rivera, a Super Bowl preview and some terrible teams who got wins.

4th And Forever LITE this week as Darren was off pretending to work for a living. A real mixed bag in the NFL this week for Stu to dive into - and dive he did!

Our lil ol' podcast got a shout out from an NFL Hall Of Famer!Once we come down off the ceiling, there was a bunch of games to talk about.

Wow! Two weeks in a row! Back at it like pros!There were some wild games, great finishes and flashes of brilliance in week 10. Come listen to us talk crap about it!

Fresh off holidays and technical difficulties, the boys deliver some fine chat... honest! The Pats lost for the first time this season and the Broncos beat the Browns in the 1st ever 4+F Bowl!

Due to technical difficulties, the lads could only muster a 40 minute pod this time around. We aim to get things back up and running as soon as possible and will keep you posted on the Facebook page.