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Emily Miazga is a 3 x winner of the  Coast to Coast World multisport champion she is also a clinical nutritionist and found of "Em's Power Cookies" - a range of nutritious and delicious  Cookies, Bars, Power Bites, they also sell Hemp Protein Cookies! In this episode Canadian born Emily shares how she got into multisport and just what it took to win the coveted Coast to Coast race three times and what she learnt about herself along the way. How she used her insights as an athlete to help power her business dreams and what life after competitive sport looks like. She shares her philosphies on pushing through sporting and life obstacles and how she managed to keep her mind on track during the toughest of her races.   We would like to thank our sponsors Running Hot - By Lisa Tamati & Neil Wagstaff If you want to run faster, longer and be stronger without burnout and injuries then check out and TRY our Running Club for FREE on a 7 day FREE TRIAL Complete holistic running programmes for distances from 5km to ultramarathon and for beginners to advanced runners.   All include Run training sessions, mobility workouts daily, strength workouts specific for runners, nutrition guidance and mindset help Plus injury prevention series, foundational plans, running drill series and a huge library of videos, articles, podcasts, clean eating recipes and more.   www.runninghotcoaching.com/info and don't forget to subscribe to our youtube channel at Lisa's Youtube channel  www.yotube.com/user/lisatamat and come visit us on our facebook group   www.facebook.com/groups/lisatamati Epigenetics Testing Program by Lisa Tamati & Neil Wagstaff. 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The platform uses over 500 algorithms and 10,000 data points per user, to analyse body measurement and lifestyle stress data, that can all be captured from the comfort of your own home Find out more about our  Epigenetics Program and how it can change your life and help you reach optimal health, happiness and potential at: https://runninghotcoaching.com/epigenetics You can find all our programs, courses, live seminars and more at www.lisatamati.com    Transcript of interview  Speaker 1: (00:01) Welcome to pushing the limits, the show that helps you reach your full potential with your host, Lisa Tamati brought to you by www.lisatamati.com Speaker 2: (00:13) Well, hi everyone. Lisa Tamati here at pushing the limits is fantastic to have you all back again. I'm super excited to have you. And today we have a very special guests. I have Emily Miazga and if you don't know who Emily is, you probably know who famous cookies, which are IMS power cockies. So I'm sure a lot of you are going, Oh yes, I know in South of his well him is now two based on pushing the limits. Welcome to the show, Emily, how are you? Speaker 3: (00:39) Hi Lisa. I'm really good. Thanks for having me on. It's, it's a real pleasure. Speaker 2: (00:43) Well that's, it's super exciting to have you on. We actually had a case sorry, a fan of the show, write to me and say, can you please have Emily on? And she's so evoke and I want to hear her talk. So I reached out to Emily and who we are today. Speaker 3: (01:00) Awesome. Thankfully I'm too for that. It's very cool. And we finally got gotten here, so now it's very, very cool. I love it when a good plan comes together. Speaker 2: (01:08) Took us about three months, but we did get there. Speaker 3: (01:11) Absolutely. Speaker 2: (01:13) Now Emily is a Canadian born but she's living in New Zealand and Emily is famous for her Em's cookie. So let's go there for a stylist. Before we get into your athletic career, you've been an amazing athlete, but you have cookies. What are the, what are these about? Speaker 3: (01:30) Oh my cookies. I should've had one here with me. I'll have to run, get some kitchen. But my, my power cookies, it's quite funny. I had been making them since I was a little kid growing up in Canada because in Canada we just love, you know, it's like cookies are really the thing to do. And I was a sporty kid, I was always running and I was always into nutrition as well. Like I ended up studying dietetics and became a dietician. But when I came to New Zealand I was, I was traveling and I ended up here for coast to coast. And I, what I do, this is just kind of how I roll. As I would stay at friends houses and I'd make them buy power cookies as it, as a thank you or give them to the guys at the bike shop, the bribing them, you know what I mean? Speaker 3: (02:12) Like it always works a treat. And in the faculty I lied. I had always wanted to start my own business and I didn't, I decided I wanted to stay in New Zealand. I didn't want to go back to work in a clinical dietetics setting. So I actually brought power cookies to Robin Jenkins, the director, the creator of the coast to coast and wow. Yeah. So after my first coast to coast in 2004, I went and saw Johnny and I brought him cookies and I'm like, Hey, I'm thinking of starting a business and selling these cookies because you know, everyone like always said they're so good and I should sell them. So, so I, I basically just started the business and it's, it's a nice, I always loved giving them to people and to share them with people. And so that was like a real behind wanting to do it. Plus of course, you know, having my own business and doing my own thing because the products, they just, they really, they just really work. And so what, what the actual power cookies are, is they're just made from ingredients that, you know, you'd probably find in most pantries, you know, typical bloody fine ringing in the background. Oh, I probably should. I should probably put mine on airplane mode while while we're here. Just ignore it, carry off. Speaker 3: (03:32) But they just have like, like rolled oats as the base ingredients drive through. It's real dark chocolate bit of Brown sugar a and rice syrup, peanut butter in a peanut chocolate farm. But just naturally, I think the reason why they work so well is because they're yummy. They taste really good and they're really and digest and they just don't, especially when you're racing or doing something hard, they just don't upset yourself. And I think it's because like, I don't use component chocolates. I don't use processed oils. There's no Palm oil. I don't add all these protein powders, like soy protein isolate. And you know, whey protein it of ISO. So, you know, go into that a little bit. So I saw it like, no, we all read that on the packet means not much to math. Why is they the bad thing? I just don't think, and this is just my sort of anecdotal feeling I guess. Speaker 3: (04:29) I, you know, it's, it's not, you know, a real like dietetic thing, but I just think your, your body when it's under the pump it up just can't digest those types of foods. They're not real foods cause that processed in a way that it's, yeah, it's processed and it's concentrated. It's kind of like when people try to race and they just try to only consume gel. Oh terrible. Yeah. I know like gels have their place. Like if you're, if you, if you need them in an emergency or like for example, in the coast to coast mountain run, I use gels because they're convenient. They work for that specific purpose. But to fuel a whole iron man or a whole ultra or whatever on just gels, you're just going to end up with majors. Yeah. Because it's just really hard on your gut to digest it. Speaker 3: (05:17) So that's where having real food I think works works a lot better. And so that's the main difference between my products and your sort of commercially available nutrition bars. Like they'll look good on paper nutritionally. But for me, I guess I'm a dietician and as a foodie, sure it's got to look good on paper, but it also has to taste good. It also has to be digestible and it has to give, it has to fulfill the intended purpose. And so with M's, the intended purpose is to give them a really nice sustained energy. And this is really, really important because yeah, a lot of things look good on paper or they don't, you know, have this or that. I mean, I've had some really bad experiences gels and in Speaker 2: (05:58) A lot of our athletes that running hot have, have come unstuck with gels and the in I, yeah, stay away from the completely, or if you're running something like a teenK or even a half marathon, you can get away with it. But if I was that we as soon as your guys' use of track is going to be struggling because all the blood is out of the muscles, I'm going to go for a little bit longer that just not, but yeah, there was some new ones on the market that I haven't tasted and that, that are meeting the new formulations and so on. But even, even ones that are fruit based, I find that they go very acidic and your tummy and served, at least for my stomach,uduring,uduring your vendors is a no go. So food is something that I'm quite passionate about getting white athletes to adopt to and in food. It tastes good. So really good too. We will have to talk a little bit about getting some Eames cookies for our athletes to Speaker 3: (06:56) Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That. That's right. You know, one of the types of gels that I used to use it was just actually the corn syrup. Yeah. But it, but it was better than the glucose. And the maltodextrin ones, like a lot of them have that multi Jack strain, which is just like eating, trying to consume paint, paint stripper. And it's just like, Oh my God. They, like I said, y'all do have their place, but you can [inaudible] their playground, Speaker 2: (07:25) Not on the rise and the bloody fight. I don't know who it is. It's trying to get me, but Speaker 3: (07:30) Somebody you can answer it and put them on the podcast. Speaker 2: (07:38) Yeah, it's it's my business partner. Neil's, not everybody does blame Neil for bringing me in. Speaker 3: (07:44) Yeah. Speaker 2: (07:48) And it happens every week. So those things, but I think my lessons sort of get it that we've got life going on. So now I want to change tech, then I want to talk a little bit about your sporting career. We've touched on the fact that you did coast to coast now. You didn't just do coast to coast. Take, take show your, your, your history with the coast to coast and your amazing records. Speaker 3: (08:12) Oh, thanks. How long did we have? Talk about coast to coast all day. It's a very, very dear race to me. It's what really connected me in New Zealand, you know, the mountains and just how inspirational the courses. It's amazing. So I would, I was traveling and I was doing some adventurous thing. I was living in Australia and training with a guy named by Andrews. He was served by Ironman lifesaving champion of Australia. And he won that a few times and I met him while I was traveling and racing and, and he's just like, you're all right. You're a good cheek. And I'm like, yeah. So I was living in Ozzie and spent about six months training with guy and he really helped me with my kayaking because I hadn't kayaked before. Yup. But that was all ocean paddling. And anyway, I thought, well after my stint there, I've, the plan was to come to New Zealand to race the coast to coast cause it was, you know, like I guess on the bucket list and I thought, well do the coast to coast and then I'll go back to Canada and you know, settle down and get a life and go back to work as a dietician. Speaker 3: (09:20) Well that's, you know, I came in, never left. So, so the first year I came, it was in, when I raised, it was 2004 and that year it flooded out and shoot thirds of the field never finished. They were getting the mountain, it was carnage man. Like it was. And, and I had only been through the run on like I'd gone through the run a couple of times on five days and I hadn't experienced that New Zealand rain around mountains, rivers coming up. I had no concept. I grew up in the prairies in Saskatchewan, like where kind of stuff just doesn't happen. And so I remember going up through goat pass and it was just like, it's Torrens of water coming down. And we're collaborating while we're, you know, using the trees to get up and like skirting these like waterfalls. It was in the Harley and I was like, Holy shit. Speaker 3: (10:09) Like this is, I knew it was pretty, pretty intense. And so I've got through goat pass and there was a Marshall, they're asking us how we were doing and I was definitely probably hypothermic probably, you know, probably wasn't so good for me to carry on, but I actually felt okay. And I said I'm a little cold but I'm okay. And I just kept my head down and I kept running. Didn't stop cause I knew if I stopped they would, that'd be it. And I got through the mountain run and got onto the river and I'm like, you know, and everyone, like it was just like one of my friends from Australia, Chris Clawson, he was like walking back up the Hill to Mount light when I was running down to the river. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? Like I didn't realize the corners that was unfolding both in front of me and behind me. Speaker 3: (10:59) Wow. My crew, like the, the marshals were, we're checking people at the [inaudible] transition and if we are hypothermic, they were pulling you off and not letting you get on the water. If I was able to sneak through and my crew like put me in the boat and they're like, Oh, you'll be fine. And off I went. And anyway I made it through and I finished. And like I remember we, I remember reading some Chaffey Lynch's stuff about the coast to coast will make you grovel and Cathy Lynch, for those of you who don't know Kathy Lynn, she's probably one of the toughest athletes. We'll stop, you know, on the planet. She's amazing. I've never met Kathy, but she's one of my inspirations. Yeah. And I just remember her like on that final ride about groveling and as I have like on the final ride, cause I was completely, and when I got to the finish line I just said there is no need to ever do that again. Speaker 3: (12:01) And then two days later with my buddy Lynn, and I was like, you know, my keys, my chronic sponsor, and he's been with me from the start helping me. I love Lenny and I'm, you know, you can start conspiring again for the next, the next year. And, and at the time I was being coached by Michael jacks and Wellington and he emailed me and said, Hey, I reckon you can win this race. And so he coached me through and, and we got there in 2005. I actually had a pretty good race in 2005 I came third again. But I was recovering from knee surgery and I was still getting used to the course. And then 2006 was a major step up for me because I upgraded my class and actually learn how to really handle that river. And I really started to master that river. And I also, I think I had a shift as well in I guess my mental approach. Speaker 3: (12:57) Yep. When I first started it was about, you know, I'm going to come smash the coast to coast. And it was very ego driven. And like I was out to prove something and then it started to transition into more introspection, learning. What was it that was driving me? Why was I wanting to do this and feeling more gratitude and most driving you do you think? No, when you look back? I think, well in the beginning it was, I, it went hand in hand with the cookie business and I needed to be successful in the race because I wanted, I was literally using my racing as a testimony, as a Testament to my power cookies. Yeah, true. And so that was a big driver. I wanted to actually show people how it could, how it could be a big driver was just the, the sheer beauty of the course in New Zealand and being in the mountains. Speaker 3: (13:57) And I think, you know, I've always been a competitive person, so of course that comes through. But, but it was, but it was beyond that. It was a Oh, understanding. Like why, you know, why was I going on this earth? Why was I here? You know, what is it that, that, that I can do? And, and when I would, when I would do well it would, it would inspire other people. And you've probably have this as well and that actually feeds back on to you and, and it really, I was really in tune to that and really receptive and, and you know, like I'm all that kind of stuff that the philosophical stuff and you know, sort of this mind, body, spiritual thing, you know, it's all up to individuals as to how they interpret or assess it. And you know, it might be real, it might be not, but what's, what is real is what's in your head. Speaker 3: (14:47) And I, I was listening and I, it kind of become a part of me and I let it become part of my story and part of my motivation. Wow. So now we're at where we were in two thousand sixty thousand students. So have some flaws you've done and you want it now, how many times is that entitled? I want it. I want it three times. So yes. So 2007 I had a foot injury, I had plantar fasciitis and I tried pushing through and it just didn't work. Like on race day, I always say like with longest day coast-to-coast, if you try to hide an injury or if you have a problem, the race pulls it out of you. And it pulled it out of me. I go past and I was like, Ooh, I just can't do this. And so I pulled that other ACE, which was really sad, but I I it was too much. Speaker 3: (15:40) And it's pretty penis. I mean that's racing when you're pushing the limits, things are gonna go sometimes pear shaped and there was, and if it was easy everyone would be doing it, you know. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So that year Fluor pausey wanted and she sort of popped up and surprise people with her when I pulled out Elena, Asha, one of the other top girls, she didn't have very good race. And so people were sort of speculating and saying, Oh, you know, who's this blur? And, you know, kind of talking about her when, and like it wasn't a, a worthy winner because girls kind of dropped out, but which is just stupid. Like she had an absolutely brilliant race, but like the longest day is about who manages themselves the best. And that day Fleur was amazing. And so the next year in 2008 with a pretty exciting year and I was really working on my mental game and that year I learned a lot. Speaker 3: (16:34) So I, I ended up beating for buying 44 seconds that year. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So she was leaving, coming off the water. I had a bad paddle light at that point. I still, I wasn't eating on the water, I was just using sports, drinking Coke and the river was really low and it was taking longer than I thought. And so my nutrition fell a bit short and I had to pull over and I had an emergency gel, so I had a gel in the backup. I normally don't use gels only on the round bit. So I came off the water's seven minutes behind Fleur and we still have the 70 chain time trial to Christchurch and that's a lot to make up. But one thing that I was really good at with my racing, I sort of took a feather of some Steve Grundy's hat and I mastered that final ride. Speaker 3: (17:21) Yep. Most people hated it. I loved it. I knew every inch of that ride and I knew that I could probably ride 10 minutes quicker than any other woman. So I like I was, and I was very good at my energy management and I think, I think that's why it was good at posting coast is not because I was the best runner or the best paddler or whatever cyclist. I think it's because I was really good at managing my energy and I think that the power cookies had a lot to do with it because it push me to do so. I I had to chase her. Oh, what's up? Speaker 2: (17:54) Yeah. I think that's actually one of the things that I was good at too. I wasn't fast. It wasn't anything bad. W over the really long was sort of races. Yeah. How do you manage your body and your energy levels. And I did have difficulty with dodgiest of things, but I managed to even still be moving, you know, I mean I have all that wall that you're out here. Speaker 3: (18:17) Yeah. You know, my, my coach that year I changed to John Newsome in pressure. She's a triathlon coach. And one of the things that he said to me, which really stuck was when you're in these races, it's, you're always gonna have those low points, but it's all about when you have those low points to really minimize the losses. So I was always open and it's like, well, if I'm having a shitty time right now, chances are my competitors are as well. And so I am going gonna acknowledge it, I'm going to accept it, I'm not going to fight it, but I'm going to deal with it and I'm going to get on. Because before, you know, you'll probably have that next part of your human race where, Oh, all of a sudden I actually feel quite good. And and so it's just a little moment in time and it passes. And so you just have to accept it that those low spots are going to happen and you just got to minimize those losses. So that was really good advice. Speaker 2: (19:09) It's a good quote that it's one of my favorite quotes in the world that says this too will pass. Yes. Keep it in your head when you're in the deep dark prices and rice, it will pass as well. And sometimes, and this is I think for new athletes who haven't experienced this before, they think it's all over. Yeah. They think there's no, there's no coming back from this. I'm feeling so bad. There is no way out. I'm so glad. So I've lost so much energy on vomiting or whatever that they, I bet very 99 times out of a hundred deer is a white bag and they will pass. And if you can give your body maybe just a few minutes break or slowing down a little bit or walking for a bit and then hello, you come back and you [inaudible]. Speaker 3: (19:51) Exactly. Exactly. It's so true. And I think what, what does help with having a bit of experience w well, well you can practice this without racing, but you have to work on like, it's really easy to sit and talk about it out, you know in a, in your living room. But it's another thing to actually put it into practice. And so that's where, when the heat is on and you're in, in that moment, having the wherewithal to kind of look at yourself objectively and know yourself out of it. And that was, I used to joke about doing that. I used to joke about, Oh, I'm brainwashing myself and we would kind of laugh because it's kind of true. I literally was like, that's how I thought of it. I was like brainwashing myself and you know, being able to master your mind. And so, so when I was chasing floor on that final gride and I remember my coach, we, they put me on the bike and he's just like, right to settle in when you're ready, John, put in the big gear and do what you know you can do. Speaker 3: (20:51) And he's like, whatever you do, just never give up. And so on that ride was my first real experience because I'm chasing and I'm, you know, seven minutes isn't a lot of time to make up two hour ride. And I was like, well, okay, am I going to catch her? What's the split? You know? And I was going through all these scenarios and I was thinking, and I was worrying about like, I don't want her to win because that's, you know, I, this is my race and I wanna win this race. And then, you know, and I was thinking beyond into the future and then I was worrying about, you know, stuff that had happened in the past. And as I was observing in myself, as I was thinking futuristically or in the past, my energy would literally drain from my legs. Wow. But when I stopped, when I re, I realized that that was going on. Speaker 3: (21:39) Cause my, I was working with Renzi Hannon, who's is spent in eighth grade. And he, I remember him saying like, when you're thinking futuristically or in the past, you, you literally lose your energy when you're in the presence. And you and I, I gave, I realized that I was like, right, I gave myself permission. Yup. Let her go. Don't worry about her. Don't worry about whether or not I'm gonna win or catch her. Just like dropped my elbows, relaxed my back, click it up a couple more gears, pull off with my heels, take a sip of my Coke and I just focused on writing as fast as I could. And and you know, I still got the split, like the radio guys were going back and forth and giving us splits and you take it on, but you take it on as useful information, you assess it, you take it and then you move on. Speaker 3: (22:27) You don't hang on to it. And so once you get to that point where you're completely in your zone and it's not a magical enigma, you can create it and you can make it happen. And once you're in that zone, you literally feel like super woman. It was, it was an amazing thing. And when I started reeling her in and when I knew I was going to catch her and, and, and this is where this energy thing really came into play because, because it was such exciting racing and the girl, I'm Rachel Cashin who was in third place, she was only a couple minutes behind me so you could ride a bike as well. So we were all, we all finished within a few minutes of each other, which is really exciting racing 13 hour race, but you can feel the energy people were pulled over on the side of the streets like I had never seen before. And I just, with support that was out there and that electric energy, I could literally feel it. And it really fed me cause I was like, I was, I was using it to my advantage. I was taking it and using it and that was a really pivotal time because it made me realize how you can actually put into practice harnessing that, that mind body connection and mastering your mind. Yeah. And this is something that, you know, I try and do nowadays whenever, because most, Speaker 2: (23:46) Most of the time, most of us in the future or in the past, you know, held bet with the crap that makes up my past. We get where in the predictable future is. Dr Joe Dispenza talks about if someone I follow very closely, we're emotionally one way we're being pulled or the other instead of actually being in the present and then creating our future without the baggage and in the middle of a rice, I can totally understand how that drains your imagery and yeah, keeping your mind in the right place. Yeah. Just such a crucial piece of the puzzle wasn't it? Yeah. You can try and everything, but you have to train that mind and then having that experience. So you managed to, so take us over the finish line on those last couple of minutes. What was it like Speaker 3: (24:36) Everybody, everybody was out on the street and a couple people that I trained with and my coach and everyone, it just seemed like everyone was there for me. I think they were there for both, for all of us. I felt like we were there for me and it was just electric and it was almost, I remember riding through red cliffs floor in red cliffs and when I went by her and you know, she, she was at, she was spent and I was just like, I was just like wrapping up. Like it was really crazy shift. But I just remember this, this feeling of the, the Hill I'm riding past the Hill and the people out cheering. It was like riding in an amphitheater. Wow. It was almost like an out of body experience. We just love lunch n*****s. But when I, when I got across the line, I absolutely freaked out. Speaker 3: (25:26) I just lost it and I was screaming and Jenny was like, we were like, cause I was just like, you know, I had such exquisite focus and discipline and then to get across the line and to actually achieve, you know, what I had set out to do, it was just like amazed. Like it was, it was an amazing feeling. It was like, it was pretty life changing. And then when when flare across the line and we high fived it, it was, I think she was really happy as well. Like obviously she didn't win, but it was an amazing thickened the story. It was a moment of empowerment for women in sports to see like, take that boys, this is not a boring one. Wars race. Our girl, and we made this awesome race and Florida and I knew it and it was all that moment wasn't about who won. It was about look at what, look at what an awesome race we just had Blake. Speaker 2: (26:23) Oh no, Ben is such a, you're such a good storyteller and I can feel the emotions of it. And having been in similar situations myself and just, yeah, a hundred K nationals that running around Talco and I'd had a really bad, I injured my back then the night before I, or an actually falling off, went here and hit my kidneys. So my kidneys were hit painkillers and at midnight we were starting it early in the morning and at midnight I was liking Hagan, me, you know, spasms and stuff. And I had take all these painkillers and of course then I was completely woozy with the painkillers. My mum had to dress me. That's how bad I was. And I'm standing on the, that line at 3:00 AM with my business partner and my coach Neil, who was doing his first hundred K and three o'clock in the morning and I'm like completely out of it. Speaker 2: (27:12) But going right, we're going, you know, yeah, here we go. We're doing what we're doing. That's agony. Like the first couple of hours, you're really, really bad. And then and then I started falling asleep because of the painkillers and I just kept, you know, who, who's doing his first hundred and I'm meant to be helping him. Right. And him holding my hand and trying to keep me away. Can you kind of, you know, wake me up as I'm passing out. It was probably good for him. He was great. And then as far more on in the day came in and my body started to wake up, as it often does in the painkillers was out of my system. And some have the kidney pain at least, and got out. Isn't it funny how that happens or the way you think it's all over. And then if you just go, sometimes you can get through it. Speaker 2: (27:59) And then we were running along, we're doing quite well. And then we got to about 70 kilometers in and Neil started to really break down then because it was his first race doing this. He was, you know, having those really deep, dark moments and the spear and crying and, you know, I should do, Oh, and going along and I'm talking to him and we, you know, so we've been helping each other way. And then for about 93, 94 kilometers, and one of my crew came back and they said, the number one lady is just ahead of you. I'm sorry, number two. So I was in third place at the stage and we reckon you can get her, you know? And so I was like, Oh, I've got to go. I'm leaving yet to my Mike Neil and I usually don't like to bend someone fishing. Speaker 2: (28:44) That helped me through the first half, faced as crying and God and go for, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. And so then I started drinking the Kaka call. I would watch guys don't drink, I only drink Coke if you're doing all [inaudible] it was like anything goes and was drinking and I was just going like in that flow state where you see you can see here and hitting me and I was just mowing or getting away from you. There is no way honey poke the call. I had my little cousin as a probably year old and he was running beside me and bringing me the codes and stuff and can come on, come on, come on. Speaker 2: (29:26) We passed that. She broke. Of course. You know, cause when you was yeah, and I didn't want to do that too, but I want to know like you have to do it. It's like liquid. And so I mowed down on and I ended up, so I was sick. And so the first birthplace gave it already come across but sick and the nationals. And that was just like one of those Epic moments, you know, one of those times that you and my poor might, Neil came over a few minutes later and he was fine. He had us be a standard Chi under his belt and just, you know, so you never quite know how race is going to go Speaker 3: (30:07) And it's never, it's, it ain't over till it's over. And you know, it was so funny because at that year, when, when in 2008 when it was such a close race, and I remember we were staying with some friends and I was debating about, Oh, should I wear an Aero helmet for the last ride or should I just use my normal helmet? And my friend said, well, you can make it up to, you know, 30 seconds quicker. And it's just like, well then we may have 30 seconds else. I've worn the Aero helmet, you know, one thing that people can do to train themselves to work on, on that being in the moment kind of thing is first of all I think just acknowledging that you are the master of your mind and it's your decision how you take things on. Are you gonna let external things that distract you cause that's all they are, what your competition's doing, what the weather's doing. Speaker 3: (30:56) Those are all just external distractions that you cannot control. So you have to acknowledge what you can control and what you can't control and be really mindful of, of, of just filtering things out. And if something does come at you, take it as like, just be really objective, be really clinical and clear and just take it as information and then, and then you can do some exercises too. Like you know, I'd be out on a training run and you know, long run and you're looking at that Hill way out in the distance of it's like seems so far. But then you go, well actually is it far like who decides how far it is? Like, depending on your perspective, it could actually be quite close. And then you, you run that, you do that run and then you quickly learn, well actually that only took me 10 minutes to run up to that Hill and it looks like ages. Speaker 3: (31:50) And so then you, you kind of take that and go, Oh okay. And then next time it doesn't seem so bad and next time it doesn't seem so bad. So like in the beginning when I was starting the training for longest day, like I had never done that kind of long training before. I was mainly doing like five days days and a few like triathlons and stuff. So to do like a six hour bike ride or a three hour, four hour run like that or big paddles, that was way beyond my variance level. And so in the beginning it almost seems unfathomable to have volume of training. But in the end it was like no big deal at all. And it was just, the only difference was a bit of experience and a bit of just gone, Oh it is fitness. Speaker 2: (32:34) But mostly it's your mindset. And you know what's interesting is like we, you've retired now and I've retired now and for prime going through, yeah, we're suitable now. [inaudible] For a while I'd go and try and do something long. That experience is actually gone. Like I have to reopen up their horizon again, Alex for when I, when I decided that I'm doing something along with today and it's like, what was I so far again where I was, it doesn't stay open. Like just the, I used to do hundreds of kilometers. It doesn't mean you can always stay there. So you actually have to keep, in other words, it's a muscle that needs to be [inaudible]. Speaker 3: (33:15) Yeah. And your body will only let you do so much. And that, that's actually kicked my butt a little bit because like I won't do anything for awhile. Like I'll do stuff but like, you know, getting yoga up and working on my lands, you know, cutting some gorgeous or whatever, and then it's like, Oh, I haven't been for a run in a way while I'm gonna I'm just going to go out for a run. And then, you know, you just think that, but like there's a bit of muscle memory there, but then you pay for it. Cause you know, yeah. Just Speaker 2: (33:41) You think, you think I remember my very last run that I did, which was right across the North Island for a charity of a three days. And with my, my husband [inaudible] and Neil, and it was for a friend of ours who had died and we were running across and I hadn't trained the entire year because I'd had mum sick and I sort of thought, ah, I'll be fine lot, way, way, way more. And then, Oh my God, it kicked my butt because I shouldn't been training. And I hadn't had that mental thing for basically a year, so I got to the finish line, but Oh well I wasn't in good shape, you know? Yeah. I know. And you think it would remain with you by the thousands? Speaker 3: (34:25) Yeah. It's like anything, you have to train it and practice it and that. Yeah. But that keeping your muscles active and [inaudible]. Speaker 2: (34:33) Yeah. And even like, like you're training and you're doing your fitness, it's very different to be doing those long sort of stuff. And they're grueling. What's in store for Emily now. So you're still doing that in [inaudible] week and people get them and yeah. Tell us a little bit about, Speaker 3: (34:49) Well, people can get the ends at the most bike shops in New Zealand. Like especially like the torpedo sevens and the bike shops. We have pretty good distribution there. We've been in the, the new worlds nationwide. Not all the new world stock, all the products though, but if you have, but, but they can certainly get fun. So if you bought like a favorite new world you can in there or you can go ask for them because that Speaker 2: (35:17) You get them in name or, huh. Speaker 3: (35:19) That's what picks peanut butter did. He got his customers to go in and harass the grocery buyers. So go in and like, just be shamelessly, you know, harassing, harassing them. Last year I brought out, I was the first to the New Zealand market with the him a protein cookie. Ed. I'd always wanted to make a protein cookie, but I wanted it to be vegan and natural and I wanted it to taste good. I didn't want to just load it up with sugar substitutes and protein powders. So my ham cookies are made with natural peanut butter dates are, and I'm hemp protein. Wow. And it's not just a token amount of hat. It's like 16 and 18% protein, which we source from New Zealand. And those are in all the countdowns. So most of them countdown. So countdown doesn't have my other range, but they have the ham cookies. Speaker 3: (36:07) Okay. So yeah, so bike shop, BP connect nationwide has, has a few of the bars and I'm actually just working on a distribution deal with a company and, and we're just still going through the process of pulling together all the information. But I'm hoping that that's going to help to give us more widespread distribution because that's like, that's one thing that I've always struggled with over the years. Cause we're a small company. I'm not, I'm not owned by a big food conglomerate. I don't have like big marketing budget from this kind of stuff cause it's really, it's really expensive to to really distribute it and service your product. Like when, when I first met Julisa I was doing that in store tasting new world and Wellington and like to do that all over the country. Obviously you can't do it yourself because you just can't be everywhere at once. But if I were to pay somebody to do that for us, like it's thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars and to do his disdain campaign like it's so it's hard but we're, but we are getting there. We're slowly, slowly just like just like a ultra or just like coast-to-coast, you know, you just take it, chunk it down one step at a time. Speaker 2: (37:18) A fun and fascinating whole distribution thing in the whole [inaudible] their business. Cause you know, I'm entrepreneur toe and I've got the same, it's different product obviously, but we've got my new book coming out and it's the whole same thing. You have to get it to distribution. You have to get into bookstores, you have to get on the Amazon Kindle. God knows [inaudible] box, get it actually, get it translate into other languages. Hopefully get it into Australia or new ways or this with stuff that you have to be aware of. Speaker 3: (37:44) Yeah, no idea. Oh, Oh totally. And like little things like packaging, like, like all of their packaging designs, there's so much that goes into it and people just think, I don't think they, I don't know if they realize just what goes on behind the scenes and just his magically arrived here. There's a lot that goes into it. So yeah. So I'm looking at, yeah, we want to hopefully get this distribution happening and, and it'll give us a little bit more like, you know, they'll be able to get us into more places like the four squares and hopefully more of the new roads and get more ranging and top down. So, so that's what's coming up. What else? So really working on that. And then we've got our property. And so I'm a bit of a homebody and I love working on my land. I love planting trees. Speaker 3: (38:35) I planted about 5,000 native trees on our property rehabbing. So we've got wish out the back, which is, it's absolutely beautiful. But the front section is on a whole hillside, which I, well it's funny cause it's got gorse on it. And you know, at first I was gonna just flip all the Gores to get rid of it, but it's actually really good to stabilize the Hill, but it's also nitrogen fixing it. The legume. Oh wow. It's actually really good for the soil. And nutritionally as a dietician it's the course isn't so bad. And also to the NATO, it's a good nursery plan for the natives to come through. Wow. So we've been up here for a few years now and even in that time I can see the native starting to overtake the course. Wow. But I'm still doing a lot of planting. Like I did a whole section that was quite steep and then I've got like along our road side that I've done. And it just takes a lot of maintenance and a lot of that'll keep your foot good guys. Keep me fit. Like if I, if I do a day on the scrub powder, I feel like I've done a big post to coast. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: (39:43) The aim. Let's, let's Oh, we got to wrap up now, but I just wanted to thank you very much for coming on the show and for sharing your wisdom because it's really interesting. I have no idea what it takes to doing coast to coast, so all I've ever done is run. Speaker 3: (39:58) I'm the same thing with all, like I, I'm sure like I could do an ultra, but I just couldn't imagine doing like a hundred or 200 Kane. Why? Oh, I don't know. My, I think my feet, I think my body's limit is about that 33 K of arch. Okay. That's me. Yeah. Speaker 2: (40:20) But yeah, it's different. A different, you know, techs, different skills and disciplines and to do something that complicated, I always look at coast-to-coast and go, Oh God. And the biking in the running in, you know, how much money that takes and how much it, yeah, I'll put it over here, shows a runner, Speaker 3: (40:37) This animal can, I can totally get that. The simplicity of running is, is there's a lot to be said for that. And then I have to say like bat is my go to fitness is yoga and running. Cause you just put on your shoes and go, there's no stop to the gear. Yeah. It's easy. Speaker 2: (40:52) So nice not to be fiddling around with stuff sometimes. Speaker 3: (40:56) Oh that's totally, totally, yeah. Speaker 2: (41:00) Wait, is it, you want to see like if you, you know, you've got the young girls out there that are starting out in their careers 40 or, or just thinking about things like anything. Speaker 3: (41:08) Yeah. If there's something stressing you out, don't worry about it. Just focus on yourself. Focus on what you need to do and just don't worry about other stuff. Just, you know, I used to spend a lot of energy wasted worrying about things I couldn't control. Yes. Like it's like Len, my quiet guy. I remember one time, you know, he just, you know, we were talking about something, I was stressing about something, you know, unnecessarily. And Lynn just said, don't worry about it. You'll be fine. You'll be fine. And that was, that was actually really good advice. So yeah, don't, don't stress stuff. And Speaker 2: (41:44) That might Manson was at a mall hose and just keep pushing forward. Hey, Speaker 3: (41:49) That's right. That's right. And just get out there and do it and just yeah, we're work on your mental game. [inaudible] There's some really great stuff. Like, I know you mentioned Joe does better than my husband actually just mentioned him. I'm going to start getting into his stuff. Speaker 2: (42:03) Amazing. Oh. Cause the whole mind body connection and the, the meditation and the power of leaving all the crap that you've gotten past behind. And it's some pretty deep stuff, but it's a, yeah. Work in progress. Speaker 3: (42:14) Yeah. It's all over. Can programs and just, you know, remember that you're not going to accomplish everything in a day. Like just do, do what you can do within your control and understand your limits and just put one foot in front of the other and just Speaker 2: (42:27) Go for it. Sounds brilliant. Awesome. So everybody know, kick kick-out aims cocaine and brought them support here. What's your website? Him? So it's power, cookies.com. Our cookies.com. Speaker 3: (42:41) Yay. Thanks so much, Lisa. That's be good. Speaker 2: (42:45) It's been lovely having you on and thanks for being such a great role model and yeah, we're hopefully we'll catch up with you again, so. Speaker 3: (42:52) Okay, that sounds really good. Thanks Lisa. Look forward to catching up with you as well. Speaker 1: (42:59) That's it this week for pushing the limits. Be sure to rate, review and share with your friends and head over and visit Lisa and her team. At www.lisatamati.com  

Wait, what?! I thought that symptoms only showed up once something was wrong. You mean they only show up AFTER something has been wrong for a while? Symptoms are a warning sign that something is malfunctioning in the body even when EVERYONE seems to have the same symptom. They should NEVER be considered normal or just part of the “getting older” process. What does this all mean? Have a listen for the rest of the details and learn that how you feel really is a choice that YOU get to make. 002 - How You Feel Is Not The Best Indicator Today we're going to talk about. How you feel is not the best indicator of how healthy you are stay tuned. Hi, it's Dr. Kelly Shockley with Are You Really Healthy Radio will be exposed the real truths and the realm of health and Empower you with insight and knowledge so you can take back control of your house and with the highest quality of life for the rest of your life. Now, if you're new here, make sure you click that subscribe button, and all of the links reference in this video will be found in the description box. Alright, let's get started.  So we're going to continue on with the story that we began yesterday. And really we're going to segue into this concept of how you feel is not the best indicator of how healthy you are. So continuing my journey as a healthcare professional. And what actually got me into Chiropractic for those of you who missed that story it was not because of your classic aches and pains. I actually was a very sick kid and chronic sinus problems and it wasn't until I went to dr. John Brimhall down in Arizona who opened up my eyes to the whole world of Alternative Health Care. He was not just a straight chiropractor. He did not just do purely Chiropractic with me. We went through and did a lot of lifestyle changes and actually found. That my sinuses were not the cause of my problem. It was because my gut had been destroyed and it was leaking toxins back into my system. So super short version of yesterday story, but just to get you guys new listeners on board with kind of how I became the chiropractor that I am and why I'm doing what I'm doing in my office now. So through a while since 2005 I've continued on this journey, and I've wanted to be able to do more of what I experienced as Chiropractic. That's really what my passion has been is restoring health and helping people get well and have high quality of life again. I don't know what I'd be doing right now had I not had my experience back in high school with dr. John. I definitely wouldn't be having the quality of life that I am able to have now. I'm only alter marathon runner and I hiked on a regular. This very active and really don't have any health issues to speak of other than some injuries here and there from being a very active outdoor Enthusiast. But at any rate, I want to be able to do that for everybody else and. Allopathic or Western medicine has its place. It's not necessarily the best place for us to work at restoring our health. We don't have high cholesterol because of a lack of a particular prescription drug. There's a lot of different reasons why we may actually have cholesterol being elevated whether it's diet or your body's protective mechanism for a very. Um variety of reasons. So at any rate I've continued on this path and continued on my journey of how am I going to be able to do this with the knowledge I have and the experience is that I have had how am I going to do this for my patients? So it's been probably about a handful of years ago after I've been really researching and training and I've been doing nutrition since we opened back in 2005, but back then all that I had available to me were you know, just my knowledge that I had gained from chiropractic school, which we go through a. Nutrition classes in chiropractic school so very well equipped with that but still I wasn't. I'm really confident. I mean it's a continuing changing developing field of medicine and I just always want to make sure I'm doing exactly what my patients need from me so that we can get the best benefit for them out of the whole process. So, you know, there's different nutrition companies and we had developed different types of symptoms surveys, but then everything again was going off of that patient symptoms like there's got to be a better more concrete. Way that's more accepted by everybody in the community medical and not to really determine what is going on. So about 5 years ago. Dr. John actually introduced me to dr. Van Merkel. He is the founder of science-based nutrition, which is essentially a reporting system that has changed my world and many of my patients lives. Essentially. We're using comprehensive lab analysis by doing a lot of blood work and hair and your challenges. Will you test School whatever I need to do comprehensive lab analysis that you can't really have done anywhere else. It's very different than what you actually get from your primary care doc, but this is concrete information like. Not just based off of symptoms. If we purely based life off of symptoms. We're going to be missing a lot of the pieces of the puzzle. So here's where I am today. These are the types of things that I'm doing my patients which will help segue into now how healthy you are how you feel is not the best indicator of how healthy you are. So. They're your body's warning signal that something is not right. They are never ever be accepted as something normal and that we're just supposed to experience as we get older. No. No that is not the case. It's your body's warning that something is not right even as they seem to be incredibly common. So say females dealing with PMS. Sorry, if I offend any of you guys but it's not normal. There's many women who suffer from those types of symptoms and they can be horrific not discounting that at all. But if everything was working right about your body, you would have no symptoms at all. So just because so many females experience it it's been written off and accepted as being normal. It's just part of it. No, I'm here to tell you that it's not. It's your body actually telling you that there's a problem and it's not normal. It has become very common. So I'm just one of the many examples but here's the other thing about symptoms and why judging how healthy you are based just purely off of symptoms is not the best way to go about. Really evaluating that process you don't get symptoms and tell something's been wrong for a period of time. So let's use pain example. I have many patients who come to me with being a chiropractor obviously looking to get out of some sort of pain whether it's neck or back or headaches, you know, and I'm sport certified as well. So lots of different extremity types of issues you name. Well many a times my patients will tell me like yeah, you know, I have had this problem. Normally it comes and goes maybe it'll last for a couple of days, but then it resolves itself. Everything is fine and I just go about life. They think that it fixes itself, but oftentimes what brings them into my office is because they're now experiences and less ache or pain that is just unrelenting. It's not going away and they have no idea what's wrong. And so of course they chalk it up to being older because why would we want to actually believe something else? That's how we've been conditioned. We just leave as we get older things are going to fall apart and we're going to be more miserable. Thankfully I'm here to tell you that that's not the case whatsoever. So those aches and pains that come and go. First off they don't show up until your body is not been working correctly for a period of time and it's the body's way of saying hey, we've been working in this haphazard fashion. We weren't designed to do this you need to pay attention and actually fix some of these things. Otherwise, it's going to create more problems. So what happens when you get those aches and pains and then they go away a few days later your body didn't fix itself. It has the full capability of doing so but you didn't give it the good input that it needed in order to do so, so it found. A way to compensate as long as it has some reserves left in its reserve tank. It can continue to compensate so is when it compensates it starts doing something in a different manner to still be able to accommodate what you're asking it to do. So what that does is it redirects stresses and forces through the body into different tissues that have the capacity to absorb that that's a lot of technobabble. So essentially your body just finds a new way to do something and your symptoms go away when the symptoms come back. It's because body feels like hey you haven't fixed this problem. We can't do this in this manner anyway, so you need to fix us because there's an issue and if you don't take care of it, we're going to have a bigger problem. So these patients who come in to me who's aches and pains have now not decided to go away. Like they always have it simply their bodies completely run out of ways to compensate. So now it's like hey, all right, there's no other way that we can actually go about and do this. You're going to have to fix this or we're going to have even bigger issues. So if we have. Essentially, we have the ability to start giving the body back reserves by unwinding those compensation patterns and how you feel not just aches and pain wise but like chronic digestive types of issues that maybe it was periodically were experiencing some GI complaints, but now it's like every single time you eat something your stomach's upset and you're uncomfortable and just everything else that you can experience with the GI symptoms. It's the same type of thing. Your body has run out of ways to compensate. So another example.  Say let's talk about the flu or some other nasty bacteria, especially because we're sitting right in that season right now still in people have been really sick this year. Did you know there's an incubation period so we all know that like you go and you're around somebody who's sick. You don't get sick immediately upon contact with that person. What'd you find out a few days later like. I did get sick because eventually then the symptoms show up so you may have been exposed and he got the bacteria or some crazy virus in your system and has to brew for a while and the immune system is trying to do his job of fighting it off, but eventually maybe it takes over and there's a bigger fight that's happening. And now you have symptoms. So what happens again, you don't have symptoms immediately as soon as you're infected with some sort of bacteria or a virus. It's after a few days of that. Fight happening that then eventually you start feeling the effects of it. And then I'm also here to tell you that, you know, same thing with aches and pains or anything else that we're trying to heal up with a body when you're trying to get over a sickness. Let's say you did have a bacterial infection and you went in and you got some antibiotics. What is it that we now hear all of the time? Make sure you finish your prescription and the reason being is because you're going to feel better in a couple of days, but that doesn't mean the infections gone. So what is that telling us tells us that symptoms actually go away before the problems actually resolved. So if we just live life based off of symptoms were missing so much and we may actually end up. Not finding out information until it's too late. So this is where preventive medicine really plays a big part in people's worlds mean how many of you have actually known somebody who went in for a routine physical exam, which I don't even know if everybody is doing that anymore, but there is some validity and doing that because if you're again if you're waiting for something to show up. You're not going to catch something until maybe it's too late. So back to these people that I'm sure you've probably had in your life or at least know somebody who's had this happen where they go in for a routine checkup, and the next thing you know, they're handed a major. Bike stage 4 breast cancer where it's already metastasized all over the body, but I feel fine is what people will say or they fell find they appeared healthy. How can that be or what about classically with heart disease, you know, the first symptom of heart disease often is a heart attack. So yeah 50 year old seems to be fine, you know, even active outdoor Enthusiast maybe or in the gym all the time eats right and drops dead of a heart attack. There are things going on in the body. If you had a way a system to actually ask those questions to figure that out before those and results actually happened or before stage 4 cancer diagnosis actually was given so what I'm telling you is even if you feel healthy you still should and owe it to yourself and your family and kiddos and anybody else that's meaningful in your life. You owe it to yourself to have it checked out and see really how healthy are you those symptoms surveys. This is where they said, they don't work. Also, not just because symptoms does it don't show up until down the road a ways but also because symptoms don't tell us where the actual cause of the problem really is. This is where I come back to all the lab analysis that we do something that's different about the lab analysis that I'm allowed to actually do because I don't sit in the same box as a standard of care. I can order whatever I want to considered investigational medicine. I don't have to wait for you to have a symptom in order to order series of tests. So it was really cool as what I recommend with my patients and have been doing this now for years. Is that once a year? We do a full systems check. Not only do we do the basic panel blood work, but we add in you know, the cancer panel and hormone panel and the Cleveland heart panel so we can really check these other systems in full capacity and see where are you at now? I sit I did just throw out the c word and I'm not going to. Glaze right over that for you guys because it's like a taboo topic and it really shouldn't be unfortunately depending on what stats you read either one in three or one and two individuals now in the u.s. Is going to have a cancer diagnosis at some point in their life heart disease since I threw in the Cleveland heart panel, it's still the number one killer in females and males and the US big deals guys big deal. And there are ways that we can test and check. How is the body doing long before symptoms ever come into fruition? And that's when we want to really work on improving our overall health. So since I threw out the cancer word just to touch on that real quick like. In the US. We do not use cancer markers as diagnostic for cancer meaning if I run a cancer panel and I have patients who have had markers that come back way out of range that does not mean purely based off of those results that they in fact have cancer. OK the medical population in the US Does not use those as diagnostic criteria. However, my question is if those are way off kilter way out of range can they actually say that that person does not have cancer. So I don't use as a diet as diagnosis. I use them to get a baseline of where are my patients at know everybody's bodies are fighting cancer every single day. And as long as our immune system is able to do what it needs to it keeps it in check and it doesn't become an issue. However on Down the Line depending on different life factors our immune system sometimes can get distracted and now that systems of checks and balances is not doing what it needs to anymore. If there is a problem starting to brew whether it's cancer heart disease or you know diabetes or what have you it's going to show up in the blood a long long before it shows up on a biopsy or scan or much less alone symptom. So whole overall point being guys is stop judging how healthy you are based off of how you feel. It's really the worst indicator and if you're not doing some sort of evaluation that's in depth in very different than what you could get at your primary care doc. Then you need to add that. Okay, I am more than happy to help you and guide you and give you more information. I am going to be delving into this much in much more detail in upcoming episodes as well. So you can have a better idea of what it is that I'm talking about. But if you haven't even been in to see a doctor and a very long period of time you probably should do that just say now whether or not you go on any form of treatment. That's a whole different story. But at least get yourself checked out. Don't wait for something to actually show up because by then it might be too late. So hopefully I have conveyed you this message have changed up some of the thought process and you're going to continue to hear me more about this. So if you're not quite there, but you I've got you intrigued come back and let me continue to feed this information to you and. Please be willing to ask questions. I am always happy to answer those for you guys. If you're enjoying what you're hearing here, please like and share it with your friends. Help us be able to help as many people possible get well stay well live healthy vivacious high quality lives because if we're going to be here we should at least enjoy the time while we're here, right? Okay guys. Hey guys. 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Well, I already angered Harry Potter fans so now it's time to anger the Star Wars fans as I lead a conversation to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace. Thankfully I'm joined by Curtis and Rob, the new biggest Star Wars fans I know, to help prop me up as I struggle to comprehend even the most basic stuff. And yes, we definitely talk about that part where a big fish gets eaten by an even bigger fish. Let's also take a moment to realize how crazy it is that we've done forty of these things now!

Dave is back again speaking on biblical knowledge and the ego that some people can build around their biblical knowledge. Thankfully I'm a dummy so I can't grow that kind of ego, so I in no way felt attacked at all by this sermon. But hey have you read Revelations 36 times like I have? Get on my level.

Want to make sure your loved ones are taken care of should something happen to you? Learn the essentials about wills and choosing a guardian for your kids!    Essentials on Wills and Choosing Guardians So this topic - creating your will and making sure you have your guardians in place if you have kids - is one of those areas of finances we tend to shy away from.   I get it.   It's boring at best and depressing.  So today I want to give you the essentials to wills and choosing guardians for your kids without weighing you down.   Thankfully I'm not alone. Jean Dillion is here to help. She's a certified financial planner at Freedom Financial Counseling and an Accredited Financial Counselor.  In this episode we discuss: the essentials of a will choosing guardians to take care of your loved ones whether or not those do it yourselves will online kits are worth it Hope you enjoy! Resources on Estate Planning If you want more information about setting things up for your loved one, here are some posts to check out: Estate Planning for Young Families Wills, Guardianship, and Estate Planning Five Essential Items for Your Estate Plan Choosing Legal Guardians for Our Baby Estate Planning Lessons We Can Learn From Cinderella Jumpstart Your Marriage and Money Course Want to give your marriage and bank account a boost? Pick up Jumpstart Your Marriage and Money course. Jumpstart focuses on the big wins including earning more. Get LIFETIME access to a four-week course design to help you: Stop fighting about money and create a budget that you BOTH LOVE Automate your money Pay off your debt faster Plus more! You can get lifetime access here! Music Credit Like the music in this episode? Our theme song is by Gentle Regime. Additional music by Lee Rosevere and Logan from Music for Makers in this episode.