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From alleyway gangsters to cold war spies to eccentric entrepreneurs, Australian history is full of colourful but forgotten characters. Host Jen Kelly talks with experts, historians and yarn spinners to uncover the untold stories of some of our most interesting and offbeat forebears. A Herald Sun po…

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    NEW PODCAST: Dear Rachelle

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2025 3:27 Transcription Available


    A killer is on the loose in an Australian country town. Excited for the June long weekend, bubbly 23-year-old Rachelle Childs leaves work, calls her sister, and is dead within hours. Her burning, partially naked body is found nine hours later in bushland on a lonely coastal road. Her killer has never been caught. Now innocent people, once too afraid to speak, are breaking their silence. If you’re looking for your next true crime podcast obsession, search out Dear Rachelle. An unstoppable cold case team is reinvestigating and uncovering damning new evidence. Could this finally be the break the family needs? Dear Rachelle is hosted and investigated by journalist Ashlea Hansen, who teams up with retired detective and renowned cold case specialist Damian Loone. The first episode of Dear Rachelle is now available on all podcast platforms. If you’re looking for your next true crime podcast binge and you want to be first to hear what’s next, visit dearrachelle.com.au - your News Corp Australia subscription grants you access to podcast episodes three weeks before everyone else, as well as exclusive access to videos, interactive evidence, behind-the-scenes content, and more. Dear Rachelle is a podcast from True Crime Australia.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Harry Houdini: The great escape - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2024 25:54


    In the very last of our great history stories, we turn to Harry Houdini, one of the great magicians in history, and his time in Australia. His tale is told by Andrew McConville, from State Library Victoria. There are almost 280 stories in the In Black and White show, and they're all available for free in this podcast feed. As we say goodbye after five ears unearthing colourful stories from our past, we would like to sincerely thank our listeners for tuning in and sharing your ratings and reviews. Tune in to the final episode for some final thank you and a farewell message from the host, Jen Kelly. Like the show? Read more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Harry Houdini: The great escape - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2024 27:57


    In the very last of our great history stories, we turn to Harry Houdini, one of the great magicians in history, and his time in Australia. His tale is told by Andrew McConville, from State Library Victoria. There are almost 280 stories in the In Black and White show, and they're all available for free in this podcast feed. As we say goodbye after five ears unearthing colourful stories from our past, we would like to sincerely thank our listeners for tuning in and sharing your ratings and reviews. Tune in to the final episode for some final thank yous and a farewell message from the host, Jen Kelly. Like the show? Read more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A bushranger's body in the window - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2024 26:29


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. George Melville was a daring highwayman who pulled off one of Australia's biggest heists. But when the law caught up with him, his fate was most gruesome indeed. Damien Beard from Pentridge Prison Tours joins the show with more. Warning: This series contains discussions of self harm. If you or anyone you know needs help: Lifeline: 13 11 14 Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636 Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800 Love the show? Read more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A bushranger's body in the window - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2024 28:10


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. George Melville was a daring highwayman who pulled off one of Australia's biggest heists. But when the law caught up with him, his fate was most gruesome indeed. Damien Beard from Pentridge Prison Tours joins the show with more. Warning: This series contains discussions of self harm. If you or anyone you know needs help: Lifeline: 13 11 14 Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636 Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800 Love the show? Read more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    BONUS EPISODE: The Aussie who gave up gold for honour - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2024 18:26


    With the Paris Olympics in the books, we tell the tale of Cecil Healy, a champion swimmer who innovated in the pool. But it's for an amazing act of sportsmanship that he should perhaps be best remembered. Military historian Mat McLachlan joins the show for part 2 of a bonus two-part series. Learn more about Mat's work at: https://battlefields.com.au/Like the show? Go to: heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    BONUS EPISODE:The Aussie who gave up gold for honour - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2024 21:05


    With the Paris Olympics in the books, we tell the tale of Cecil Healy, a champion swimmer who innovated in the pool. But it's for an amazing act of sportsmanship that he should perhaps be best remembered. Military historian Mat McLachlan joins the show for part 1 of a bonus two-part series. Learn more about Mat's work at: https://battlefields.com.au/Like the show? Go to: heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The "world's oldest lesbian"

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2024 31:08


    To the outside world, Monte Punshon was utterly respectable. But her perfect 19th-century diction disguised her wild past as a bad girl who hung out at edgy Melbourne bars and secret drag parties and was monitored in the lead-up to WWII by security services who suspected her Japanese teacher was a spy. The ANU's Tessa Morris-Suzuki joins the show to talk about the woman dubbed "the world's oldest lesbian" after coming out at the age of 103. Get the book at: https://www.mup.com.au/books/a-secretive-century-paperback-softback Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The witch of Kings Cross

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2024 36:34


    Rosaleen Norton was a bohemian artist and occultist who horrified Australian society in the 1950s. There were wild tales of devil worship, satanic rituals, blood sacrifices and sex orgies. But were they true? Author Peter Coleman is here to sort the fact from the fiction for us. Get Peter's book at: https://affirmpress.com.au/browse/book/Peter-Coleman-Australia's-Most-Bizarre-Crimes-9781923046269Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The Aussie samurai Gallipoli war hero spy - Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2024 23:27


    Harry Freame was raised in Japan under the ancient bushido code but wound up fighting for Australia. But was this Anzac hero betrayed by his nation? His story is told in a new book called The Bravest Scout at Gallipoli by Ryan Butta. Get Ryan's book at: https://affirmpress.com.au/browse/book/Ryan-Butta-Bravest-Scout-at-Gallipoli-9781922992086 Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The Aussie samurai Gallipoli war hero spy - Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2024 30:51


    Harry Freame was raised in Japan under the ancient bushido code but wound up fighting for Australia. But was this Anzac hero betrayed by his nation? His story is told in a new book called The Bravest Scout at Gallipoli by Ryan Butta. Get Ryan's book at: https://affirmpress.com.au/browse/book/Ryan-Butta-Bravest-Scout-at-Gallipoli-9781922992086 Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The bride of Christ and the baby mystery: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2024 28:16


    When Marie Grunke entered a strict convent in Melbourne in the 1960s, she couldn't tell anyone her shameful pregnancy secret. But Marie's story would have a surprising ending. Her story is told in a new book called Unconventional Women: The Story of the Last Blessed Sacrament Sisters in Australia, by writer Sarah Gilbert, who joins the show with more.Get Sarah's book at: https://www.mup.com.au/books/unconventional-women-paperback-softback Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The bride of Christ and the baby mystery: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2024 31:49


    When Marie Grunke entered a strict convent in Melbourne in the 1960s, she couldn't tell anyone her shameful pregnancy secret. But Marie's story would have a surprising ending. Her story is told in a new book called Unconventional Women: The Story of the Last Blessed Sacrament Sisters in Australia, by writer Sarah Gilbert, who joins the show with more.Get Sarah's book at: https://www.mup.com.au/books/unconventional-women-paperback-softback Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Charles Bean: From correspondent to combat

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2024 30:34


    He was known as one of the men who told Australians what was happening in the Gallipoli campaign. But at a place named Krithia, Charles Bean risked his life to place himself at the heart of the action. Military historian Mat McLachlan joins the show with more. Get Mat's book at: https://www.hachette.com.au/mat-mclachlan/krithia-the-forgotten-anzac-battle-of-gallipoli Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The defiant daughter of the rebellion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2024 43:13


    One of the enduring images of the Rum Rebellion is of Governor William Bligh cowering under his bed as the mob draws near. But it was his daughter Mary who owned the hour - keeping armed rebels at bay using nothing but her parasol. Author and Journalist Sue Williams joins the show with more. Learn more about That Bligh Girl at: https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Sue-Williams-That-Bligh-Girl-9781761065880/ Like the show? go to https://heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    True history of Ned's mate Joe

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2024 35:27


    When stories of the Kelly Gang are written, it's always their charismatic leader who grabs the spotlight. But Joseph Byrne lived his own very colourful life. Author Georgina Phelan outlines how the young bushranger went from larrikin to outlaw.To order the book, visithttps://anoutlawsjournal.wordpress.com/2024/06/27/author-signed-copies-of-joseph-byrne-from-larrikin-to-outlaw/Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The murder in the garden mystery: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2024 28:46


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT.The last photos ever taken of  Edward Feeney and Charles Marks showed them holding hands and pointing guns at each other. What happened next was a bizarre case that saw one man dead and the other on trial for murder. Historian Michael Adams, host of the Forgotten Australia podcast, joins the show with more.More about Forgotten Australia at: https://forgottenaustralia.com/Warning: This series contains discussions of self harm.If you or anyone you know needs help:Lifeline: 13 11 14Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The murder in the garden mystery: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2024 32:40


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT.The last photos ever taken of  Edward Feeney and Charles Marks showed them holding hands and pointing guns at each other. What happened next was a bizarre case that saw one man dead and the other on trial for murder. Historian Michael Adams, host of the Forgotten Australia podcast, joins the show with more.More about Forgotten Australia at: https://forgottenaustralia.com/Warning: This series contains discussions of self harm.If you or anyone you know needs help:Lifeline: 13 11 14Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The last woman to hang: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2024 30:03


    Jean Lee was sentenced to die by 12 good men and true for the gruesome torture and murder of an SP bookie in Carlton in 1949.But was the last woman executed in Australia just covering for her outlaw lover? Pentridge Prison Tours guide Damien Beard joins the show with more. Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at: heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The last woman to hang: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 30:25


    Jean Lee was sentenced to die by 12 good men and true for the gruesome torture and murder of an SP bookie in Carlton in 1949.But was the last woman executed in Australia just covering for her outlaw lover? Pentridge Prison Tours guide Damien Beard joins the show with more. Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at: heraldsun.com.au/ibaw  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A very tangled birthright: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2024 23:18


    During World War I, Letitia Leake may have looked like a proper and patriotic English lady. But her childhood - half a world away - was a saga of alleged murder, infidelity, bigamy and corruption. Professor Carol Grbich, co-author of The Accidental Heiress, joins the show with more. To order the book, visit www.adelaidebooksellers.com.au Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at: heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A very tangled birthright: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2024 25:17


    During World War I, Letitia Leake may have looked like a proper and patriotic English lady. But her childhood - half a world away - was a saga of alleged murder, infidelity, bigamy and corruption. Professor Carol Grbich, co-author of The Accidental Heiress, joins the show with more. To order the book, visit www.adelaidebooksellers.com.au Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at: heraldsun.com.au/ibaw  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    How Mad Dog Morgan went from hero to villain: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2024 34:44


    Before Ned Kelly, the bushranger that most struck fear into the hearts of lawmen was Dan Morgan. And while he started out as a champion of the downtrodden, Morgan became increasingly unhinged and dangerous, and was once named the most bloodthirsty ruffian that ever took to the bush. Historian Aidan Phelan joins the show with more.   More on Phelan's research and books: https://aguidetoaustralianbushranging.com/ Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at: heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    How Mad Dog Morgan went from hero to villain: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2024 37:48


    Before Ned Kelly, the bushranger that most struck fear into the hearts of lawmen was Dan Morgan. And while he started out as a champion of the downtrodden, Morgan became increasingly unhinged and dangerous, and was once named the most bloodthirsty ruffian that ever took to the bush. Historian Aidan Phelan joins the show with more.   More on Phelan's research and books: https://aguidetoaustralianbushranging.com/ Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at: heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A high-wire act for poor Mabel Worley part 2.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2024 33:25


    Running away to join the circus has been the quixotic goal of many the bored teenager. But by the time Mabel Worley took that path, her life was anything but ordinary. Corinne Ball, senior curator at the History Trust of South Australia, joins the show to tell the tale.More about Corinne's book at:https://scholarly.info/book/three-ring-circus/Like the show? Get features and more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A high-wire act for poor Mabel Worley part 1.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2024 30:30


    Running away to join the circus has been the quixotic goal of many the bored teenager. But by the time Mabel Worley took that path, her life was anything but ordinary. Corinne Ball, senior curator at the History Trust of South Australia, joins the show to tell the tale.More about Corinne's book at:https://scholarly.info/book/three-ring-circus/Like the show? Get features and more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The hanging judge's Plan B

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2024 29:04


    Redmond Barry is best known for sending Ned Kelly to the gallows. But he never would have sat in judgement if it wasn't for some poor judgement of his own. State Library Victoria librarian Andrew McConville joins the show to tell the tale of Barry's torrid love affair at sea, and how it changed the young lawyer's life.Like the show? Read more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A macabre act of betrayal

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2024 52:05


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. When George Augustus Robinson was employed as the Chief Protector of Tasmania's Aboriginal people, he proclaimed he was there to 'do good' for the indigenous population. Instead, he took from the very people who had already had everything taken from them. Cassandra Pybus joins the show with more. Note: This episode contains graphic descriptions relating to the deaths of indigenous people. Learn more about Pybus's book, A Very Secret Trade: The dark story of gentlemen collectors in Tasmania, at https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/9781761066344See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The Butcher of Fromelles

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2024 44:31


    He was dubbed the most unpopular Australian AIF commander of World War I, thanks to a series of bungles and mismanagement.But was James McKay mad, bad, or just another hapless officer caught in the slaughter of the trenches?Military historian Mat McLachlan joins the show to discuss.More on Mat's work at: https://battlefields.com.au/Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    The man who reinvented the Australian home

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2024 46:04


    Before TV, social media and the internet, Australians turned to magazines to help define their style.And for 43 years William Shum was one of the titans of print who showed modern Australians how to dress themselves - and the places they lived.Now his granddaughter, author Sue Walker, joins the show to recount his colourful life.More about the book here. Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A wartime flyer's mid-air miracle: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2024 27:22


    Len Fuller was just a trainee pilot when his RAAF aircraft collided mid-flight with another plane. But instead of a fiery tragedy, what happened next was front page news. Author and podcaster Michael Adams joins a special  Anzac Day edition to tell the tale.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    A wartime flyer's mid-air miracle: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2024 26:12


    Len Fuller was just a trainee pilot when his RAAF aircraft collided mid-flight with another plane. But instead of a fiery tragedy, what happened next was front page news. Author and podcaster Michael Adams joins a special  Anzac Day edition to tell the tale.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Todd the Time Lord

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2024 37:38


    It seemed like science fiction at the time, but in the late 1800s one scientist and his team ventured forth into the deep Outback to connect Australia to the world. Author Adam Courtenay rejoins the show to tell the extraordinary tale of Charles Todd.    Learn more about the tale in Courtenay's book, Mr Todd's Marvel, at: https://www.woodslanepress.com.au/collections/author-adam-courtenaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The jailbird dynasty: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2024 25:08


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT The prisons of old Victoria were no strangers to the tragic, the macabre and the downright bizarre. But in Geelong, the Hassett clan saw all three. Historian Deb Robinson joins the show to outline the multiple generations who found themselves behind bars.   Warning: This series contains discussions of self harm. If you or anyone you know needs help: Lifeline: 13 11 14 Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636 Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The jailbird dynasty: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2024 22:22


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. The prisons of old Victoria were no strangers to the tragic, the macabre and the downright bizarre. But in Geelong, the Hassett clan saw all three. Historian Deb Robinson joins the show to outline the multiple generations who found themselves behind bars. Warning: This series contains discussions of self harm.If you or anyone you know needs help:Lifeline: 13 11 14Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Charlie's perfect footy record

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2024 29:10


    Throughout the decades of AFL and VFL history, there have been many coaching greats. But only one could boast a perfect record. AFL historian Col Hutchinson joins the show to introduce us to Charlie Clymo, the man who coached the Cats to the 1931 flag, and then disappeared.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The Appeal: Part 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2024 21:36


    On a special Good Friday edition of the show, we conclude our three-part deep dive into the history of the Royal Children's Hospital and the long-running Good Friday Appeal. Today we talk to Penny Fowler, the granddaughter of Sir Keith and Dame Elisabeth Murdoch and the chairman of the Good Friday Appeal, about her family's deep connection with the event, and what's in its future. Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for features and more. Learn more about the Good Friday Appeal and how to donate:https://www.goodfridayappeal.com.au/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The Appeal: Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2024 33:41


    This week, in the lead-up to the 93rd Good Friday Appeal, we do a three-part deep dive into the history of Melbourne's beloved Royal Children's Hospital and the long-running Good Friday Appeal. Today, we speak again with Melbourne historian Peter Yule, author of an amazing book called The Royal Children's Hospital: A history of faith, science and love, about the origins of one of Victoria's most important institutions.Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for features and more. Learn more about the Good Friday Appeal and how to donate:https://www.goodfridayappeal.com.au/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The Appeal: Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2024 32:21


    This week, in the lead-up to the 93rd Good Friday Appeal, we do a three-part deep dive into the history of Melbourne's beloved Royal Children's Hospital and the long-running Good Friday Appeal. Today we speak with Melbourne historian Peter Yule, author of an amazing book called The Royal Children's Hospital: A history of faith, science and love, about the origins of one of Victoria's most important institutions.Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for features and more. Learn more about the Good Friday Appeal and how to donate:https://www.goodfridayappeal.com.au/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The man who ended Ned

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2024 49:09


    Elijah Upjohn was a sewage worker turned quack doctor who found himself behind bars for chicken thievery. But his life took a sharp turn when a notorious bushranger was convicted - and the state was in need of a hangman. Author and podcaster Michael Adams tells the story. More about Michael's book: https://affirmpress.com.au/publishing/hanging-ned-kelly/More about the Forgotten Australia podcast: https://forgottenaustralia.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Australia's greatest environmental idiot?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2024 24:36


    Thomas Austin owned a great estate and built a grand mansion fit to host royalty. But he will be forever remembered for one of colonial Australia's biggest bungles: rabbits. Author and comedian Mikey Robins joins the show with more. Learn more about Mikey at:https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/Idiots-Follies-and-Misadventures/Mikey-Robins/9781761107115 Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at heraldsun.com.au/ibawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    The complicated collaboration of Bill Sticpewich

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2024 48:03


    WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. This week we tell the story of an Australian PoW in World War 2, who was damned for helping his Japanese captors but hailed for helping send war criminals to the gallows. Author Tom Gilling tells the story. More about Tom's book at:https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Tom-Gilling-Witness-9781760879273 If you or anyone you know needs help Lifeline: 13 11 14 Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636 Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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