Podcast appearances and mentions of william vogt

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were finally reunited to talk through the week's big natsec stories, including:“First is the Worst.” The historic first criminal trial of a former president has commenced in New York state courts. Both sides have sketched out their cases in opening arguments. What will the charges being brought against former President Trump relating to alleged hush money payments on his behalf mean for him and his 2024 presidential campaign?“Fair Whither Friend.” After months of delay that have, by some accounts, pushed Ukraine dangerously close to defeat, the House has finally passed legislation that would provide them with essential foreign assistance, alongside other aid packages for Israel and Taiwan as well as a handful of related foreign affairs measures. What is good, bad, and ugly about the package that finally got through? And what do the dynamics of its passage mean for other U.S. foreign policy interests in the near term?“The Clock is Tocking.” Among the side measures passed by the House and likely to be enacted into law is a bill targeting the popular social media platform TikTok — one that would ban that platform if its owners, ByteDance, do not divest due to concerns with the degree of control the Chinese government may have over it. But is this sort of regulation of a social media platform constitutional? And is banning one good policy?For object lessons, Alan finally put down the damn remote and recommended an actual book, Charles Mann's “The Wizard and the Prophet,” about the competing, prescient visions of the future put forward by early 20th-century scientists William Vogt and Norman Borlaug. Quinta picked it up and urged listeners to check out the new documentary “Stormy,” about Stormy Daniels and the impact her alleged involvement with former President Trump and its aftermath has had on her life. And Scott shouted out one of his favorite purveyors of the silver screen, Alamo Drafthouse, and their thoughtful “sensory friendly” showings that turn up the lights and down the noise for those with young children or sensory sensitivities — something that recently allowed him and his wife to see “Dune 2” in the theater with a newborn in tow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were finally reunited to talk through the week's big natsec stories, including:“First is the Worst.” The historic first criminal trial of a former president has commenced in New York state courts. Both sides have sketched out their cases in opening arguments. What will the charges being brought against former President Trump relating to alleged hush money payments on his behalf mean for him and his 2024 presidential campaign?“Fair Whither Friend.” After months of delay that have, by some accounts, pushed Ukraine dangerously close to defeat, the House has finally passed legislation that would provide them with essential foreign assistance, alongside other aid packages for Israel and Taiwan as well as a handful of related foreign affairs measures. What is good, bad, and ugly about the package that finally got through? And what do the dynamics of its passage mean for other U.S. foreign policy interests in the near term?“The Clock is Tocking.” Among the side measures passed by the House and likely to be enacted into law is a bill targeting the popular social media platform TikTok — one that would ban that platform if its owners, ByteDance, do not divest due to concerns with the degree of control the Chinese government may have over it. But is this sort of regulation of a social media platform constitutional? And is banning one good policy?For object lessons, Alan finally put down the damn remote and recommended an actual book, Charles Mann's “The Wizard and the Prophet,” about the competing, prescient visions of the future put forward by early 20th-century scientists William Vogt and Norman Borlaug. Quinta picked it up and urged listeners to check out the new documentary “Stormy,” about Stormy Daniels and the impact her alleged involvement with former President Trump and its aftermath has had on her life. And Scott shouted out one of his favorite purveyors of the silver screen, Alamo Drafthouse, and their thoughtful “sensory friendly” showings that turn up the lights and down the noise for those with young children or sensory sensitivities — something that recently allowed him and his wife to see “Dune 2” in the theater with a newborn in tow.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is a particularly exciting episode as we're joined by Charles C. Mann, the New York Times bestselling author of “1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus,” and “1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created.” Charles shares insights with us about his more recent book, “The Wizard and the Prophet: Two Remarkable Scientists and Their Dueling Visions to Shape Tomorrow's World,” and chats with Shely about the lessons the story of Norman Borlaug and William Vogt have for the future of agriculture. 

Just as the political spectrum is divided between left and right, thinking on environmental problem solving is similarly split into two rival camps exemplified by the archetypes of the Wizard and the Prophet. Award winning science writer Charles Mann explores these archetypes as personified by the father of the Green Revolution, Norman Borlaug and the intellectual godfather of the environmental movement, William Vogt. Crudely put wizards are foremost humanists who eschew limits believing that our growing population and appetites can be accommodated by the wise application of decoupling technology. Prophets are foremost environmentalists who believe that carrying capacity is limited and that humans must remain within natural energy flows or risk ecosystem and civilizational collapse. Understanding the origins of one's opponents ideological beliefs and values goes a long way to depersonalizing a sometimes ugly debate and perhaps finding a small patch of common ground. Prophets who have contributed some impressive advances in natural resource stewardship such as water conservation must wrestle with an ugly history of Malthusian ideas which at their worst have justified horrific campaigns of coercive population control. Despite the success of technofixes that fed billions and averted famines wizards must temper their scientific rationalism with a sociologic understanding of the dark sides of modernization such as enclosures of the commons.

Pour cet épisode numéro 10 de la saison 2, je reçois Emmanuel Pont, qui est un ingénieur de 39 ans qui a fait carrière dans le numérique : 6 ans consultant dans l'assistance à maitrise d'ouvrage et plusieurs années dans une startup. Et là, paf, il sort un livre sur un sujet qu'on n'attendrait pas a priori, à savoir la surpopulation et la démographie face à la crise climatique. Accrochez-vous, ça risque de remettre en cause quelques idées reçues ! Les moments forts de l'épisode : 2:00 prise de conscience de la crise climatique et démission de Nicolas Hulot 3:33 Pour faire face : lire, comprendre puis transmettre 07:02 l'article qui dit qu'un enfant c'est 60 tonnes d'eCO2 par an est complètement faux 9:38 : Je ne suis pas qu'un consommateur, mais aussi peut-être un professionnel, un actionnaire, un citoyen, un membre de mon cercle social 11:48 Le contrôle des naissances est-il un levier pour le climat ? Quel impact pour l'éventuelle politique de l'enfant unique sur le climat. Réponse : quasiment rien ! 13:46 Pourquoi quand on dit "le climat c'est un problème de population", c'est une erreur ? 15:49 La notion de transition démographique 20:18 le livre The Wizard and the Prophet, avec William Vogt et le néomalthusianiste Paul R. Ehrlich, auteur de La bombe P. 22:12 L'idée reçue qui agace Emmanuel et le fait que le pire n'est jamais certain 24:07 la source d'espoir, c'est que les problèmes à venir sont de nature politique et pas physique. On peut donc changer cela. Le PTEF du Shift Project. 27:01 : La lecture d'Emmanuel, un livre de Matthieu Ricard 28:03 : conclusion : le monde peut être changé, l'espace des possibles est gigantesque, et les enfants sont facteurs de changement, y compris au niveau de leurs parents Les bons liens d'Emmanuel et œuvres abordées dans l'épisode : Le blog d'Emmanuel Pont, Enquêtes écosophiques — https://medium.com/enquetes-ecosophiques Le livre d'Emmanuel Pont, Faut-il arrêter de faire des enfants pour sauver planète ? — https://www.emmanuelpont.fr/ L'article qui m'a fait connaitre Emmanuel : Démographie et climat — https://medium.com/enquetes-ecosophiques/d%C3%A9mographie-et-climat-5a6ef5be37ed Plaidoyer pour l'altruisme de Matthieu Ricard — https://www.placedeslibraires.fr/livre/9782266249348-plaidoyer-pour-l-altruisme-la-force-de-la-bienveillance-matthieu-ricard/ Le PTEF du Shift Project — https://ilnousfautunplan.fr/

Subscribe now Give a gift subscription Share This week on Unsupervised Learning Charles C. Mann, author of 1491, 1493, and The Wizard and the Prophet joins Razib, to delve into the history of the Americas, and a broader theme that runs through Mann's work – how human societies and their environment are inseparably intertwined.    Mann's work goes a long way towards dispelling the myth that the Americas were an untamed wilderness before the arrival of Europeans, scarcely populated and unshaped by the hand of man prior to Christopher Columbus. He describes a New World then peopled by complex societies with huge populations, possessing a well-developed toolkit of biological technologies for engineering the natural world, managing ecological succession, and diversifying food production strategy, all arguably superior to that of their European conquerors.   Ultimately, when the Old and New Worlds collided, it was the calamitous impact of disease, rather than a significant technological advantage in weaponry, that eased the European conquest of the Americas. Through highlighting the fall of the Triple Alliance of Tenochtitlan, Tetzcoco, and Tlacopan, which comprised the Aztec Empire, and the Wars of Succession of the Inca, Mann also provides insight into human choices that also contributed to the end of these societies.  During this pivotal period, for the first time, a global exchange of subsistence crops, slaves and luxury goods circulated throughout the whole world. The effects of the discovery of the New World were felt on every continent, as new crops were adopted in regions where they alleviated local food security issues and reshaped the local ecology (often increasing pressure on the landscape and further degrading it over time). As the world transitioned to the 20th century it was a precarious landscape of food insecurity that motivated William Vogt, whom Mann styles as “the Prophet,” to preach on the importance of environmental carrying capacity and overpopulation. In contrast, Mann's “Wizard,” agronomist Norman Borlaug, a pioneer of the technological techniques underpinning the Green Revolution, came to prominence applying science to enable our adaptive ingenuity in the face of ecological constraints.  For his part, Mann does not take sides or offer us a clear winner – but believes the discussion between these two intellectual strands to be of utmost importance when considering how we interpret our past and consider our future.  Subscribe now

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/your-book-review-the-wizard-and-the   [This is the seventh of many finalists in the book review contest. It’s not by me - it’s by an ACX reader who will remain anonymous until after voting is done, to prevent their identity from influencing your decisions. I’ll be posting about two of these a week for several months. When you’ve read all of them, I’ll ask you to vote for your favorite, so remember which ones you liked. If you like reading these reviews, check out point 3 here for a way you can help move the contest forward by reading lots more of them - SA] Some books really stick with me. Like, literally, stick with me: I’m one of those people with pretentious literary tattoos. So far, just two books have been meaningful enough for me to permanently etch their totem on my skin: the glyph of the underground postal service from The Crying of Lot 49, and the line "Everything Is Permitted," Jean-Paul Sartre’s misquoting of Dostoevsky’s take on atheism from The Brothers Karamazov. (I wasn’t kidding about pretentious!) People have all sorts of reasons for getting tattoos – mine are there for some of the standard superficial ones (looking cool and tough, obviously), but also to act as little daily mantras for how I want to live and think about the world. To this very short list of inked paragons, I’m thinking of adding a new one: a few stylized stalks of wheat in honor of Charles Mann’s The Wizard and the Prophet. According to the instructions on the tin, The Wizard and the Prophet is meant to outline the origin of two opposing attitudes toward the relationship between humans and nature through their genesis in the work and thought of two men: William Vogt, the "Prophet" polemicist who founded modern-day environmentalism, and Norman Borlaug, the "Wizard" agronomist who spearheaded the Green Revolution. Roughly speaking, Wizards want continual growth in human numbers and quality of life, and to use

Eski ortağım, eski mühendis, yeni veri uzmanı ama daima sürdürülebilirlik odaklı daima araştırmacı kişi Yasin Toparlar ile keyifli bir sohbet kaydettik. Regülasyonlara değindik, şirketin kapanmasına dair öz eleştiri yaptık, mimarların yüzeysel yeşil anlayışına dokundurduk. Keyifli dinlemeler, yorumlarınızı bekliyorum.Programda bahsedilen konular ve Arkilog'a dokunma/ulaşma yöntemleri ise sırasıyla şu şekilde:****1. Jevons Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox2. Nachhaltigkeit: Surdurulebilirlik kelimesinin Almancasi https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachhaltigkeit / https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/50254/1/535039824.pdf3. Hans Carl von Carlowitz: Alman vergilendirme muhasebesi ve madencilik yoneticisi, ormancilik uzerinden “surdurulebilir verim/hasat” konularini ilk tanimlayan kisi olarak bilinir. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Carl_von_Carlowitz4. The Limits to Growth (LTG): Club of Rome tarafindan fonlanmis, 17 kisilik bir arastirma ekibince duzenlenmis 1972 tarihli buyumek ve buyumenin sinirlari uzerine yazilmis rapor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth / https://www.clubofrome.org/publication/the-limits-to-growth/ 5. Our Common Future (a.k.a. Brundtland Report): BM tarafindan hazirlanmis, surdurulebilir kalkinmaya dair 1987 tarihli onemli bir rapor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Common_Future / https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/ie/se/pp/EnCom15/28Nov/SustDev/HELD_SustDev_UNECE_EnComm15_2006_c.pdf6. Energy Performance Gap: Yapilarin tasarim suresince tahmin edilen enerji tuketim miktarlari ile gercekte gozlenen enerji tuketim miktarlari arasindaki ciddi farklara odaklanan akademik arastirma alani. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building-energy_performance_gap / https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmech.2015.00017/full7. BMS / BES / BAS: Yapilardaki enerji tuketimini ama daha ziyade butun operasyonel ekipmanin yonetimini takip eden, gerekli aksiyonlarin alinmasini saglayan ve otomasyon sureclerini organize eden sistemler. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_management_system 8. Bjarke Ingels’in Jair Bolsonaro’yu ziyaret etmesinin ardindan Failed Architecture web-sitesinde yayinlanmis yesil mimarinin (ve mimarlarin) “Greenwashing” potansiyelleri uzerine bir yazi: https://failedarchitecture.com/bjarke-ingels-and-the-art-of-greenwashing/ 9. The Economist dergisinde yer alan, yapilari daha yesil yapmak uzerine atilan adimlarin neden yetersiz olduguna dair yazi: https://www.economist.com/international/2019/01/05/efforts-to-make-buildings-greener-are-not-working10. The Wizard and the Prophet: Two remarkable Scientist and their dueling visions to shape tomorrow’s World. Charles C. Mann tarafindan yazilmis, Dunya’nin surdurulebilirlik ile olan sinavini iki cok farkli karakter, Normal Borlaug ve William Vogt gozunden kiyaslayan kitap. https://www.amazon.com/Wizard-Prophet-Remarkable-Scientists-Tomorrows/dp/0307961699 / https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/31/books/review/the-wizard-and-the-prophet-charles-mann-william-vogt-norman-borlaug.html Bonus: Önümüzdeki dönemde iyiden iyiye önem kazanacak olan "Circular Buildings” konusuna dair kisa bir yazi: https://www.worldgbc.org/news-media/when-building-circular ****Apple Podcast, Ekşisözlük üzerinden podcast için yorum yapmayı ve Instagram (arkilogpodcast), Twitter (arkilogpodcast), Linkedin gibi mecralardan bölümü paylaşmayı ihmal etmeyin :)Slack Komünitemize katılmak ve görüşlerinizi aktarmak için arkilogcommunity.slack.com adresine ve ARKILOG.com websitesine gitmeniz gerekiyor.Dinlediğiniz (ve okuduğunuz) için teşekkürler!

Just as the political spectrum is divided between left and right, thinking on environmental problem solving is similarly split into two rival camps exemplified by the archetypes of the Wizard and the Prophet. Award winning science writer Charles Mann explores these archetypes as personified by the father of the Green Revolution, Norman Borlaug and the intellectual godfather of the environmental movement, William Vogt. Crudely put wizards are foremost humanists who eschew limits believeing that our growing population and appetites can be accommodated by the wise application of decoupling technology. Prophets are foremost environmentalists who believe that carrying capacity is limited and that humans must remain within natural energy flows or risk ecosystem and civilizational collapse. Understanding the origins of one's opponents ideological beliefs and values goes a long way to depersonalizing a sometimes ugly debate and perhaps finding a small patch of common ground. Prophets who have contributed some impressive advances in natural resource stewardship such as water conservation must wrestle with an ugly history of malthusian ideas which at their worst have justified horrific campaigns of coercive population control. Despite the success of technofixes that fed billions and averted famines wizards must temper their scientific rationalism with a sociologic understanding of the dark sides of modernization such as enclosures of the commons. This conversation challenged my cognitive biases more then I was expecting. I hope it does the same for you.

Ep 304 - William Vogt - The Grandfather of Environmentalism Guest: Charles C. Mann Chances are you have never heard of William Vogt yet, according to Author Charles C. Mann. “His philosophy is one of the few that was born in the last century and is as relevant today, if not more, than when Vogt started campaigning to save the environment.”   William Vogt is responsible for defining “The Environment” which, before he so perfectly gave shape to the environment as a global and interconnected system, ecological issues were deemed to be local or site specific. Mann goes into great detail in his book, The Wizard and The Prophet”, about Vogt and the development of his philosophy that says “the carrying capacity of the earth is limited.” Vogt believed that the biggest threat to Mother Nature is an outbreak of humans.   I invited Charles C. Mann to join me for a Conversation That Matters about the incredible influence of William Vogt in shaping the environmental movement.    Conversations That Matter is a partner program for the Morris J Wosk Centre for Dialogue at Simon Fraser University. The production of this program is made possible thanks to the support of the following and viewers like you. Please become a Patreon subscriber and support the production of this program, with a $1 pledge https://goo.gl/ypXyDs

We're pretty clever, we humans, but we ignore unintended consequences at our peril -- like climate change, after a couple of centuries of fossil fuel-driven growth and innovation. Can we innovate our way out of that growing crisis, or must we cut back and conserve if we want a habitable planet? Or both? Science journalist and author Charles Mann, author of 1491, 1493 and The Wizard & the Prophet, tells the tale of these two competing approaches through the lives of the 'wizard,' Norman Borlaug, father of the Green Revolution, and the 'prophet,' William Vogt, early ecologist and author of the hugely impactful 1948 book, Road to Survival. 

Today we’re beginning our environmentalism segment with our presentation on The Wizard and the Prophet.From the best-selling, award-winning author of 1491 and 1493, an incisive portrait of two little-known twentieth-century scientists, Norman Borlaug and William Vogt, whose diametrically opposed views shaped our ideas about the environment, laying the groundwork for how people in the twenty-first century will choose to live in tomorrow’s world.This panel features Charles Mann, author and correspondent for The Atlantic, Science and Wired in conversation with Corby Kummer, Senior Editor at The Atlantic, restaurant critic, and author.Find more information at: https://kentpresents.orgVideos of the presentations and discussions can be found at our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJSTb4J7gZpeqNXfe9IpRpw

Are you a Wizard or a Prophet? Two largely forgotten 20th century thinkers – Norman Borlaug and William Vogt – continue to shape our competing visions of the future of our planet.   In this episode, we talk to Charles C. Mann, award-winning author of The Wizard and the Prophet, about these remarkable scientists and their lasting influence.   Borlaug – the Wizard – is a Nobel-winning scientist who kickstarted the agricultural ‘Green Revolution’, while Vogt – the Prophet – laid the foundations for the modern environmental movement.   The path we choose to solve our environmental dilemmas hinges on how we understand and frame the problems we face. Is innovation and technology the solution that will push us beyond our predicaments to overcome earth’s natural boundaries, or is the answer to scale back and respect the ecological limits of our planet?   Charles and I discuss: Who the Prophets and Wizards are, what they believe in and what they’ve achieved, and how they envision the future Who the contemporary Prophets and Wizards are that continue to shape public debate How these competing visions dictate debates in agriculture, water scarcity, energy, and climate change The politics and power dynamics behind the visions of Prophets and Wizards What’s at stake if we choose one path over another A sobering (and rather terrifying) alternative third vision   Links: Chalres C. Mann ‘Can Planet Earth Feed 10 Billion People?’ The Atlantic Charles C. Mann ‘The Wizard and the Prophet’ William Vogt ‘The Road to Survival’ Noel Vietmeyer 'Our Daily Bread; The Essential Norman Borlaug'   You May Also like: FFS 013 – How Plants Domesticated Humans FFS 011 - Transforming Agriculture to Feed the Future FFS 009 – Stop Generalising GMOs  

Far too often, politics and policy are portrayed as a battle between liberals and conservatives, or socialists vs. capitalists. But one of the most profound divides of modern times is between optimists and pessimists-- especially over how they view the environment.This episode looks at the debate between environmental optimists (wizards), who believe we can invent our way to a better, healthier future, and pessimists (prophets), who say we must impose limits on pollution, over-crowding other impacts of humans on the planet.Our guest, journalist, Charles C. Mann, author of new book, "The Wizard and The Prophet", is a correspondent for The Atlantic, Science and Wired. Two of his previous books, 1491 and 1493, were widely-acclaimed best sellers.We consider the dueling visions of two remarkable scientists. Norman Borlaug's research led to the Green Revolution, which saved hundreds of millions of lives, and boosted agricultural production. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his work. William Vogt, who saw the world as bound by immutable biological limits, was the founder of modern environmentalism, perhaps the most successful ideology of the past century. His book, "Road to Survival", which inspired generations of environmental activists.Do apocalyptic environmentalists sometimes seem heartless about the lives of poor people? Are technological optimists are too optimistic about the future, with ideas that lead to global domination by massive, centralized corporations and economic systems? We unpack these and other challenging questions. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In forty years, some scientists project that Earth’s population will reach ten billion. Can our world support that many people? What kind of world will it be? According to Charles Mann’s newest book The Wizard and the Prophet, the experts answering these questions generally fall into two deeply divided groups—Wizards and Prophets. The Prophets, he explains, follow William Vogt, a founding ecologist and environmentalist who believed that if we use more than our planet has to give, our prosperity will lead us to ruin. The Wizards are the heirs of agronomist and humanitarian Norman Borlaug, whose research effectively wrangled the world in service to our species to produce modern high-yield crops that then saved millions from starvation. Mann, author of the seminal environmental histories 1491 and 1493, joined us to discuss the nuance of these diverging viewpoints and assessed the four great challenges humanity’s growing population faces—food, water, energy, and climate change—grounding each in historical context and weighing the options for the future. He offered an insightful analysis about the outlook for our increasingly crowded Earth, and opened the conversation to lay groundwork for how the people of the twenty-first century will choose to live in tomorrow’s world. Charles Mann was joined in conversation by Edward Wolcher, Town Hall Seattle’s Curator of Lectures. Charles C. Mann is a correspondent for The Atlantic, Science, and Wired, and has written for Fortune, The New York Times, Smithsonian, Technology Review, Vanity Fair, The Washington Post, as well as the TV network HBO and the series Law & Order. A three-time National Magazine Award finalist, he is the recipient of writing awards from the American Bar Association, the American Institute of Physics, the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, and the Lannan Foundation. Recorded live at Seattle University by Town Hall Seattle on Thursday, January 25, 2018.

Civilization’s health hangs on how we manage food, water, energy, and climate. Two conflicting visions dominate how we think about them. Each vision had an original creator and exemplar—the “prophet” William Vogt, author of Road to Survival, and the “wizard” Norman Borlaug, mastermind of The Green Revolution in agriculture. The prophet says to repent and cut back on everything; the wizard says that clever enough innovation can always find a way forward. Examine both visionaries and their visions closely, and a way to proceed emerges that combines alert caution with bold invention. Charles C. Mann is the author of the 2006 book 1491, about the Americas before Columbus, and the 2012 book 1493, about the Americas after Columbus. His previous SALT talk, in April 2012, was about “the Homogenocene."