Podcast appearances and mentions of ethan roland

I first heard of The Eight Forms of Capital all the way back in 2012.  It was first idealized by Ethan Roland on his blog and his original post about it can be found here.  From the first time I … Continue reading →

I first heard of The Eight Forms of Capital all the way back in 2012.  It was first idealized by Ethan Roland on his blog and his original post about it can be found here.  From the first time I … Continue reading →

Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Online: via PayPal Venmo: @permaculturepodcast (Originally Aired: 17.September.2014) My guest for this episode is Mark Shepard, owner of New Forest Farm and author of Restoration Agriculture. This is the second of three pieces that Mark and I recorded together to talk about Restoration Agricultural practices and to answer listener questions. In this episode we discuss four topics based around listener questions. Mark's nursery techniques. Grafting vs. Seeding. What tools and infrastructure are needed to start a nursery project? How Mr. Shepard markets his tree crops locally or otherwise. We also discuss the importance for each of us, that means you and me, to be growing, selecting, and breeding our own plants from seed. To make this easier Mark shares his STUN method of seeing what plants are best. What does STUN stand for? Sheer Total Utter Neglect. After listening to this episode, even if you don't have a green thumb, there's no reason to not be playing with plants on a variety of scales. Here is another discussion about how to bring profit and entrepreneurship into permaculture. It is something I continue to work on and struggle with at times, but it is something we can do. As Mark said, we do this and then ask other systems to try and keep up with us as we create a better world now and for the future. This is not a game or something we play at, but real work to make a difference. We can do it. To support that, I have some interviews that will come out over the coming months with people like Ethan Roland to discuss the Eight Forms of Capital and Regenerative Enterprise and how we can apply permaculture to business. Then Carol Sanford joins me to discuss how we can apply business to permaculture, find the essence of our entrepreneurial work, and grow what it is we are doing to bring functional permaculture models into the mainstream. Support the Podcast If you value this show and the work of the podcast in spreading the word of permaculture to the world, lend your assistance in supporting these projects. Share links posted to the Facebook page, facebook.com/thepermaculturepodcast, with your friends or followers. Retweet messages sent from @permaculturecst. Leave reviews on iTunes or your favorite podcast sites. The show can also use your financial support, either as a one-time or ongoing monthly contribution. Find out how to do that at: www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/support. Get In Touch E-mail: The Permaculture Podcast The Permaculture Podcast with Scott Mann The Permaculture Podcast Twitter: @permaculturecst Instagram: PermaculturePodcast

Ethan has been working for years in regenerative agriculture. In our conversation he invites us to think deeply about the frameworks we decide to work with as opposed to following rules or practices. He invites us to think about generative questions we can ask about the land and our relationship to specific ecosystems and their potential, as opposed to thinking about problems. He invites us to think, rather than define, to relate rather than control, and understand ourselves as part of those living systems relationships and the intricate and unique story of each place. Ethan Roland Soloviev is Chief Innovation Officer at HowGood, he’ll explain what that is towards the end of the episode. He is also an owner of High Falls Farm. He is the author of "Levels of Regenerative Agriculture" and "Regenerative Enterprise: Optimizing for Multi-Capital Abundance." Ethan is an international expert on regenerative agriculture, regenerative business, and permaculture design, with experience in 34 countries. He is the founder of the Regenerative Enterprise Institute, a member of the Regenerative Business Alliance, and an Associate of the Carol Sanford Institute (after this episode, if you’re intrigued, jump to episode 20 of Masters of Regeneration Radio with Carol Sanford).

Big Thanks to Ethan Roland and the visionary team of Appleseed Permaculture who first put words to this framework, and mapped out these ideas for us all to drop into and explore.And an equally open-hearted shout-out to Sam Sycamore of the Good Life Revival Podcast - who first hipped us to these ideas - and shared them in a way both eloquent but inspiring us to ACT. Deep bows.

“What if our financial system looked more like an ecosystem?”This was one of the big-picture questions that eventually led Ethan Roland and Gregory Landua to propose that money isn’t the only form of capital driving the human economy.By viewing the financial system through the lens of permaculture, Roland and Landua eventually settled upon eight forms of capital that they observed flowing between individuals and communities, each with their own unique currencies:Social, financial, living, material, intellectual, experiential, cultural, and spiritual.Roland and Landua’s foundational framework was built for the domain of business, but it’s easy to see how these concepts can be applied more generally for making conscious lifestyle choices – and that’s what I’m all about! :)In this episode, we’ll cover:The eight forms of capital – what they are, how they connect, and how to generate and exchange them in your daily lifeWhat a visit from the family and a food forest installation can tell us about wealth and the pursuit of happinessWhy some forms of capital are more valuable than others, but also why balance is keyPlus, Brooke Sycamore shares a story based on the Chiricahua Apache tale of the coyote and the money tree, with musical accompaniment by yours truly.

i tunes stitcher Ethan Roland is a founder of Terra Genesis International and the Regenerative Enterprise Institute. With on-the-ground experience in 34 countries, he has designed more than 3000 acres of Regenerative Agriculture landscapes in every major climate zone in the world.  Ethan is the Executive Vice President of Research at HowGood and the co-author of Regenerative Enterprise and the Levels of Regenerative Agriculture. He designs, writes, and farms on his permaculture orchard in upstate New York.

i tunes stitcher Ethan Roland is a founder of Terra Genesis International and the Regenerative Enterprise Institute. With on-the-ground experience in 34 countries, he has designed more than 3000 acres of Regenerative Agriculture landscapes in every major climate zone in the world.  Ethan is the Executive Vice President of Research at HowGood and the co-author of Regenerative Enterprise and the Levels of Regenerative Agriculture. He designs, writes, and farms on his permaculture orchard in upstate New York. Get full access to Writing by Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Online: via PayPal Venmo: @permaculturepodcast Ethan Roland Soloviev joins me to share one of his current projects to define the phrase Regenerative Agriculture in an open way, via the website Regenerative Agriculture Definition. This site takes an Open Source / Creative Commons approach to defining a phrase that, much like our beloved Permaculture, can be a bit hard to pin down based on who you are talking to and their experiences with the term and in the act of doing the work. Read the Regenerative Agriculture Definition White Paper (PDF). This served as my first foray into this modern approach to discuss what it means to practice Regenerative Agriculture. I don't necessarily feel any closer to it now than I did when we started, but commend Ethan et al. on addressing meaning within a larger community. In the resource section, rather than just link to each of the companies and organizations Ethan mentioned doing good work, I chose to link to the various vision, mission, and philosophical statements underpinning what they do. Let's focus on their ideas, not just the products. Classes Oregon State University Online PDC Use SMPerm5% to save 5% on the Spring or Fall PDC. Spiral Ridge Permaculture PDC Use Mann to save $100 on the upcoming Spring PDC. Get in Touch Email: The Permaculture Podcast Write: The Permaculture Podcast The Permaculture Podcast Support the Podcast Donate to the Winter to Spring Fundraiser (Goal: $3,500 by April 20, 2017) Become an ongoing listener supporter at Patreon Resources Regenerative Agriculture Definition Terra-Genesis International Appleseed Permaculture 1469 - Eight forms of Capital & Regenerative Enterprise 1207 - Gaia University & Appleseed Permaculture, LLC Sustainable LUSH (SLush)Fund The Seven First Principles of Regeneration Darren Doughtery Regrarians The Philosophy of Epic Bars Patagonia Sustainability Mission/Vision Kiss the Ground - Mission Statement Carbon Drawdown Project The Carbon Underground Regeneration International - Why Regenerative Organic Agriculture?

Learn more at permaculturevoices.com/136 Support the show at permaculturevoices.com/support The 8 Forms of Capital is a dynamic and living framework to guide holistic and regenerative enterprise development by mapping the complex flows and pools of all eight forms of capital, not merely the financial capital. At first glance many people assume that the 8 forms of capital is simply a way to account for or measure in a similar way to the triple bottom line. This is a common way to think about business design. However, the most powerful use of the 8 capital model is to help uncover the essence and potential of each form of capital beyond the current reductionist perspective. For instance, instead of thinking about “valuation of ecosystem services” when we ask about Living Capital, we might instead start an active enquiry into the story of a bioregion, plant, or watershed that leads us to uncover the mythological unlimited yields that Mollison reminds us exist when we use the organ of our imagination to explore the potential of an ecosystem. The framework was initially developed by Gregory Landaua and Ethan Roland and the information was coalesced in their book Regeneraitve Enterrpse. Today's show is a presentation that Gregory gave at PV3 on the 8 forms of capital, where he presented it through the lens of regenerative cacao; an industry that he has worked closely with over this years.  The presentation blends the theory with the real world application. Learn more at permaculturevoices.com/136 Support the show at permaculturevoices.com/support

Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Online: via PayPal Venmo: @permaculturepodcast This article is by Taylor Proffit, and originally posted at NuMundo.org and reprinted/recorded as a podcast with permission. Back in October, my friend showed me The Permaculture Podcast for the first time while we were camping, developing business models and visioning the future of each other's work in the startup world of San Francisco. It was an appropriate time to listen to the episode where Ethan Roland of Appleseed Permaculture spoke about the Eight Forms of Capital in Regenerative Enterprise. Having listened to nearly every episode from the last 5 years in a matter of weeks, I've been deeply moved and inspired by this daily dose of educational therapy that has pushed me to make meaningful changes at a crossroads in my life. This is one of the most transformative collections of media I've come across to date. I've included links to the shows on the website, but you can download the mobile app as well. If you feel so inspired, support the growth of the show with a one time or monthly donation on Scott's crowdfunding platform or leave a review on the itunes app store. 1. Ethan Hughes and Necessary Simplicity & Practical Possibilities with Ethan Hughes – Ethan Hughes is a permaculture practitioner and radical minimalist that founded the Possibility Alliance, an 80-acre petrol and electricity-free homestead that gifts over 1,500 permaculture design courses each year. After traveling the world and watching the innumerable tragedies that fossil fuels and Western civilization have imposed on the earth, indigenous populations, and the minds of the masses, Ethan decided to give up his car for a bike, eat dinner by candlelight, liquidate his financial capital, and begin educating people about changing harmful lifestyles. I cannot explain how game-changing it was to hear Ethan tell his story: 20 years of slowing down to the simple life where chocolate doesn't belong, where in the last ten years his car has only been used twelve times for emergencies, and where the inner landscape work to make these external changes is of utmost importance and is the only practical path. Here is another article with Ethan over at Mother Earth News. [caption width="500" align="aligncenter"] Reprinted from Gather and Grow, read their experience when visiting Ethan's land and home of the Possibility Alliance https://gatherandgrowdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/possibility2.jpg[/caption] 2. Edible Forest Gardens and permaculture with Dave Jacke – Dave Jacke is a permaculture practitioner and co-author of Edible Forest Gardens that tells it like it is. Like Ethan Hughes, Dave asserts the importance of inner landscape work if any external actions are to have lasting results. His work with perennial food forestry is comprehensive, and the content of this conversation has given me a more clear understanding of how to move forward in my path, both internally and in the outer landscape, specifically with regards to food forestry. 3. Right Livelihood with Ben Weiss, Dave Jacke, and Charles Eisenstein– This recent episode features permaculture practitioners Ben Weiss and Dave Jacke, and author of bestseller Sacred Economics, Charles Eisenstein. The conversation traverses the ways in which we can integrate the lessons of the old story, and begin to make positive changes toward the new world we wish to inhabit. A true necessity for the contemporary changemaker. Linked in the show notes is the second half of the conversation without Charles (who had to leave the discussion early). [caption width="490" align="aligncenter"] Reprinted with permission from The Permaculture Podcast. Ben Weiss, Dave Jacke, and Charles Eisenstein panel discussion (left to right).[/caption] 4. Restoration Agriculture with Mark Shepard (Parts 1-3)– Mark Shepard is a practical go out and get it farmer. He's not interested in obscure uses of the word permaculture or anything short of prolific results. This three part discussion explains Mark's story and experience with the Organic Valley Co-operative farmers group, in which biofuel tractor design, perennial food forest design, and efficient chestnut growing are all shared practices to build a resilient network of farmers who live in the same proximity. After listening to the first episode, I was thrilled to see there were two more to listen to. This is a great episode for practical solutions to profitable farming, truly restorative land management practices, and integrative food forestry design. 5. Whole Systems Design and the Resilient Farm with Ben Falk– Ben Falk is a permaculturist who, like Ethan Hughes, wouldn't flinch if the system as we know it broke down overnight. The homestead he designed for himself is completely self-reliant, other than a generator he uses as a backup heating source for showers until solar panels can be bought (by now, I'm sure he has them, since this episode is over two years old). But unlike Ethan, Ben makes a living from his rugged resilience through a design firm called Whole Systems Design, LLC. When I first came across Ben's website a year or so ago on accident, I thought to myself “this is what I want to do” as I watched a video of him using a scythe to cut a cover crop and his design team talking about the completely self-reliant and closed loop homestead systems they design, build and inhabit. Here is the video: Whole Systems Design, LLC Firm Overview from Ben Falk on Vimeo. Whole Systems Design, LLC Firm Overview from Ben Falk on Vimeo. A visual overview of some of the work Whole Systems Design performs in Vermont, New England and abroad. Enjoy and check us out at www.wholesystemsdesign.com for more information. 6. Eight Forms of Capital and Regenerative Enterprise with Ethan Roland– If you haven't read Regenerative Enterprise by Gaia University Graduates Ethan Roland and Gregory Landua, I encourage you to do so after this episode. This show outlines the conceptual viewpoint of the eight forms of capital, of which financial is only one. I'll let Ethan explain how this simple formula for viewing the world makes all of your work, whether it is volunteer work at a food bank, growing your own food, traveling, or reading books, as contributing to your wealth as a human being. [caption width="500" align="aligncenter"] Reprinted with permission from The Permaculture Podcast. The Eight Forms of Capital infograph.[/caption] 7. Responsible Business, Responsible Entrepreneur with Carol Sanford– Fast on the heels of the Eight Forms of Capital episode, Carol Sanford takes the concepts of Regenerative Entrepreneurship to new heights with responsible entrepreneurship being her twist on the subject. She speaks about ethics-driven corporations and right relations business practices that make for truly regenerative business ventures. 8. Natural Building and ThePOOSH.org with Eric Puro– It was a pleasant surprise to hear my friend and new world colleague speak about how natural building changed his life and how, by searching craigslist for free land and buying a couple books, he and his friends built their first earth ship from all natural and up-cycled materials. Eric speaks about an ecovillage tour of Europe, starting a web platform, natural building with no power tools, and meeting people where they're at in any type of work that cares for the earth, community, and oneself. Visit ThePOOSH.org to start or join a natural building project today. [caption width="500" align="aligncenter"] Reprinted with permission from The Permaculture Podcast. The Poosh.org ‘s first naturally constructed home in Oregon on land they found through craigslist. Find out more: thepoosh.org[/caption] 9. Economic and Financial Collapse with Nicole Foss– This talk with Nicole Foss, founder of Automatic Earth, on building community resiliency at a time where growth is coming to its limits, has inspired me to take my commitments of local action further. In a society where infinite growth is assumed possible, and even necessary, this exhaustively researched and academically referenced talk about Economic Collapse asks the listener to think about how they would live if energy and fossil fuels ran out today. Would you live? What necessities of life would you have secured from within your home or bioregion. Which neighbors do you know enough to collaborate with to stay healthy? Would you have any food or water if exports stopped immediately? I've been thinking a lot about this topic lately, and relocalization of my physical needs to survive has become a relatively high priority. By making deep relationships with local farms, finding a local spring, and planting fruit trees today, we can buffer the effects of economic collapse by building a thriving community where we live. 10. Urban Permaculture in Baltimore, Maryland – The final episode I've chosen goes deep. It begins with the stories and backgrounds of Eric and Victoria, the founders of Charm City Farms. While Eric's background story is brief, Victoria's is as authentic and genuine as it is lengthy. She speaks about her path as a visual artist and student, growing up in Georgia and being completely enthralled with nature, and reading depth psychology authors such as Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell to help her make sense of her life. She also gives history on her herbalism and permaculture studies. Victoria gives the listener a relatable and cherishable story of her struggles, her darkness, her challenges, and tells the story of her life's transformation through permaculture and urban community development. After listening to the work of Eric and Victoria just a couple days ago, I've been inspired to make changes in my place, as they have, and decided not move to the big progressive cities where movements are already so large and prominent (like Boulder, Brooklyn, Austin, Portland, etc). Eric and Victoria grew the first public urban food forest in Baltimore (and they are already starting to plan their second). They do primitive skills workshops in the middle of the city, and they do the inner work that is so essential to truly help people in underprivileged communities. This inner work is particularly essential in order that change agents may be in right relations, or as Victoria says, “do right by” the community they serve. It is easy to want to go to places where the large movements are already happening to do this work, but if everyone does this, the rest of our country will remain stuck in the old story, and underserved communities in the places people have left behind will stay this behind. I'm not saying that we shouldn't travel, learn new skills, meet new people, and gain new perspectives, but when it comes to setting roots in the ground, consider a place that truly needs changemakers, as Eric and Victoria did with Baltimore. [caption width="500" align="aligncenter"] Reprinted with permission from The Permaculture Podcast. Urban Food Forest in Baltimore, Maryland.[/caption] These are the conversations that give educational and experiential capital far beyond return for the financial capital of supporting the podcast if it is truly in your means. I supported the show recently, and I will say that for as much educational and experiential capital that Scott Mann is giving away each week (for only the $261 that he is getting on his crowdfunding platform per month) it is clear that he truly is doing really great work for the world, for community, and within himself. You can also help spread the wisdom and education of permaculture by sharing this article or www.thepermaculturepodcast.com with your friends. What are your 10 favorite episodes of the show? What inspiration or knowledge did you gain from them? I'd love to hear from you. Email: The Permaculture Podcast Write: The Permaculture Podcast The Permaculture Podcast

Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Online: via PayPal Venmo: @permaculturepodcast My guest for this episode is Carol Sanford, author of The Responsible Business and her latest book The Responsible Entrepreneur.  She also mentors permaculture practitioners, such as Ethan Roland of Appleseed Permaculture and the Regenesis Group, to connect our work with business world. Along the way today we talk about her background as a university professor, and in business development for large companies. We also discuss metrics, principles, social structures, and many other topics that lead to a way to find the essence of our work. This essence is more than what we do and is bigger than ourselves. We also talk about hierarchy, anarchy, and responsibility, as well as mechanistic systems, the human potential movement, and living systems. This is a fast-paced, dynamic conversation. Relax and hold on, there is a lot of information here and it's worth your time whether or not you currently operate a permaculture or other business because these seeds of thought are useful in finding and refining your niche. You can find Carol and her work at CarolSanford.com. What stood out to me in this conversation is the role we can have as educators and also in finding our own essence. As educators, we can draw out the ideas that guide someone and help them to discover their best practices. What works best for them?  What matters? What matters is what we then make time for. Tying that to responsibility can allow leaders to get more done in a way that benefits Earth, themselves, and everyone else. That idea of essence is important to me because it's something I've been working through as your host of this show. What is core to what I do? What is it that is bigger than me that I enjoy so much about this? For a long time I thought it was about the interviews and the information, but the more I do this the more it's about helping you on your path by making connections to different people and resources and using my social capital to do so. I want you to find your niche and I'm here to help you do that and to bring your vision of permaculture and regenerative practices into the world. What is it that you currently work on? What is your essence? I'd love to hear from you. Resources Carol Sanford Living Systems Paradigm Shift John B. Watson - What is Behaviorism? BF Skinner Human Potential Movement Support The Podcast If you enjoy the variety of guests and topics on this show you can help support future productions. October starts my end of year fundraising campaign to begin preparing for 2015. Find out how to make a one time or ongoing monthly contribution at www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/support. Class Announcements Jen Mendez at Permiekids.com has a number of interesting educational opportunities coming up. The first of those are her Edge Alliances. On Sunday, November 9th, from 7 – 8 pm EST, Jen is joined by Marissa Gates, of PermaCognition, to explore how to Cultivate Holistic, Positive Patterns of the Mind. On Wednesday, November 12th, from 8 – 9 pm EST, Jen is joined by Emiliya Zhivotovskaya and Connie Allen to discuss Everything Gardens: Designing Mind-Body Landscapes. In addition to the Edge Alliances, Jen is also offering an Educational Design Course to help educators and families design holistic, integrated education plans useful whether you are homeschooling, unschooling, or want to enrich a child's educational experience when they are not involved in another program or school. Get In Touch E-mail: The Permaculture Podcast The Permaculture Podcast with Scott Mann The Permaculture Podcast Facebook: Facebook.com/ThePermaculturePodcast Twitter: @permaculturecst

Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Online: via PayPal Venmo: @permaculturepodcast My guest for this episode is Ethan Roland, a permaculture designer and a founder of Appleseed Permaculture. Along with his writing partner Gregory Landua, Ethan is the author of the article Eight Forms of Capital, as well as the book Regenerative Enterprise, which expands on the ideas of the original piece. Ethan and Gregory's work on the Eight Forms of Capital is one of the pieces that most influenced my perspective on permaculture and the different ways we can engage the various aspects of our lives to live and practice more fully what it is we love. Though financial capital is often the focus, and in our system we do need money to live, there are many ways we can create abundance in our lives. Where this material kind of unhinged me from the system that currently exists was in understanding how much value there is in our non-financial capital, and how appreciating someone's work doesn't need to be in the form of a direct financial exchange. The first thank you I ever got for this show was a box containing three bottles of my favorite hot sauce, Secret Aardvark Trading Co. habanero. Or receiving an email from someone about how the podcast changed their life. Or the time someone send pictures of Ghost Pipe flowers growing on their property not far from where I live. Now I know definitively where they are and want to go visit and see them next year when they rise again, adding to my experiential and intellectual property with that plant. Something else I'm coming to understand, which I'll follow up on when the interview with Ethan's mentor Carol Sanford comes out in a few weeks, is about what my core abilities are. I'm not well versed or skilled in marketing or raising financial capital. That's not where my skill set is. I'm good at building other forms of capital, in particular social. I talk to people, make connections, and draw out the stories from others. That's where my calling is. To make the other pieces of this work viable, I ask for help from others. I appeal to you, the listener, to help support the show. I also leave the various ways to contact me out in the open so I can give back what I've learned to you, to help you on your path. In the end there is a value exchange that occurs for everyone involved. I like that. With that introspection around the eight forms of capital comes a personal understanding of our strengths and weaknesses that touches back on what Ethan said about building an ecosystem of businesses that support and grow one another. Some of us are really good at making money. Others are really good at teaching, design, implementing in the landscape, organizing, storytelling, and on and on. As permaculture practitioners let's help one another. I'm here to help you connect with the stories and voices you might not hear otherwise, so you can find what works for you and get down to your work. I want you to find and fulfill your calling so you can live a life of abundance. Let's talk and make that happen. The Show is On The Road The show is on the road and I will be in Roanoke, Virginia, from October 20th-22nd, 2014, interviewing farmers and local permaculture practitioners. I am also delivering a presentation, “Permaculture: Creating a Better World by Design” on 630PM on October 21st, 2014, at the Roanoke Natural Food Co-Op at Grandin Village. If you're in the area I'd love to see you there or at any of the other events I'll be attending. Support If you value this show and the work of the podcast in spreading the word of permaculture to the world, lend your assistance in supporting these projects. Share links posted to the Facebook page, facebook.com/thepermaculturepodcast, with your friends or followers. Retweet messages sent from @permaculturecst. Leave reviews on iTunes or your favorite podcast sites. The show can also use your financial support, either as a one-time or ongoing monthly contribution. Find out how to do that at: www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/support. Get In Touch E-mail: The Permaculture Podcast The Permaculture Podcast with Scott Mann The Permaculture Podcast Facebook: Facebook.com/ThePermaculturePodcast Twitter: @permaculturecst (Episode: 8forms)

Donate to The Permaculture Podcast Online: via PayPal Venmo: @permaculturepodcast My guest for this episode is Brad Ward, an Agriculture Technical Consultant at ECHO, a faith based development program. Brad also is a trained permaculture practitioner, receiving his permaculture design certificate from Andrew Millison and Marisha Auerbach in 2012 through the online program at Oregon State University. Brad came to my attention on a recommendation by Eric Toensmeier, originally as a possible guest for the Faith and Earth Care series, but in setting up the interview with Brad, he and I spoke quite extensively about development aid and how permaculture can be used to ask better questions. In turn that allows us to reform our efforts to meet people where they are at. That forms the basis of our conversation. Along the way we also touch on the personal struggles and transformation that comes from wanting to aid others in a meaningful way. As with the conversation with Rachel Kaplan, there is a lot of internal work to bring change out into the world. Whether you have an interest in international development or not, quite a bit of this conversation applies equally to our internal landscape, as well as the business of permaculture. Asking the right questions, and stepping out of our normal frame of reference, changes the quality of our practices. Listen to this interview with Brad and let me know what you think, and how I might assist you on your path. Two other things that stand out from this conversation were Brad's reference to Pandora's Box, and the artificial busyness of life. One of the things I've been thinking about lately is that myth of Pandora's Box and how there was something left in the box after all the evils of the world were released, Elpis, the spirit of hope. Though hope wasn't released, I don't see that as a negative side of the story, but that we each carry hope, Elpis, inside of us. I know I do with me every day. I am an optimistic person and see the future as bright and abundant, but that we have to take the path seriously and work towards it. Myself, people like Brad, each and every one of you who listens to the show, we are all part of that abundant future. I'm here to use my hope to help you on your path. We can do it. The other piece, is the artificial busyness of life. Something Brad Lancaster asked me to do a show on was how I live a full life with so many things going on, and roles filled. A big part of that is overcoming the distractions. I let go of the mindless brain-numbing entertainment that Brad mentioned. I disconnected from advertisements. It took a lot of work, and there are still times I catch myself consuming media, but when I do notice what I'm doing I put it down and move to something of meaning. With that I continue to use permaculture to design the way I live my life so that I live with intent. Nearly everything I do is a conscious choice. With that comes an acceptance of what matters and what needs to get done or can be left for later. There's something beautiful about spending an evening with my children and being completely present in their lives. To ask a friend how they are doing, and creating a space where I'm not trying to fill the space until I can speak again, but to listen and really hear what they have to say. You're life becomes your own and, as Mark Lakeman spoke to, you inhabit your own story. That's the big picture idea of what it's like to let go of that artificial busyness. I'll put together something that goes through my process of getting to this point so you have something more practical to use in your own life. The world is beautiful and abundant. Let us be stewards of a bountiful future by taking care of Earth, our selves, and each other. From here next week's interview is with Ethan Roland, of Appleseed Permaculture, to discuss the Eight Forms of Capital and Regenerative Enterprise. The following week, on October 22nd, is the third and final piece with Mark Shepard on Restoration Agriculture. The Show is On The Road The show is on the road so that I can go report on events of interest to the growing movements to build a better world, and to continue to spread the word of this wonderful system of design we call Permaculture. Next up I'll be going to CHABA-Con, in Bridgeton, New Jersey, on October 11th, 2014 where Lester Brown, of the Earth Policy Institute will be the keynote speaker for a day of lectures, discussions, and tours on how to transform the world we live in. The last of the currently planned trips is to Roanoke, Virginia, from October 20th-22nd, interviewing farmers and local permaculture practitioners. I am also delivering a presentation, “Permaculture: Creating a Better World by Design” on 630PM on October 21st, 2014, at the Roanoke Natural Food Co-Op at Grandin Village. If you're in the area I'd love to see you there or at any of the other events I'll be attending. More on those as they are scheduled. Support If you value this show and the work of the podcast in spreading the word of permaculture to the world, lend your assistance in supporting these projects. Share links posted to the Facebook page, facebook.com/thepermaculturepodcast, with your friends or followers. Retweet messages sent from @permaculturecst. Leave reviews on iTunes or your favorite podcast sites. The show can also use your financial support, either as a one-time or ongoing monthly contribution. Find out how to do that at: www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/support. Get In Touch E-mail: The Permaculture Podcast The Permaculture Podcast with Scott Mann The Permaculture Podcast Facebook: Facebook.com/ThePermaculturePodcast Twitter: @permaculturecst (Episode: BradWard)

On this week’s Greenhorn Radio, Severine talks with Ethan Roland of Appleseed Permaculture and John Good of Quiet Creek Farm about carbon and composting.