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It may be graduation season, but here on At Liberty, class is still in session—and this week, we're exploring students' right to learn. Since the Trump administration took office, schools across the country have faced book bans, funding cuts, and a rollback in civil rights protections. This week, ReNika Moore—Director of the ACLU's Racial Justice Program—joins W. Kamau Bell to discuss what's at stake for K-12 and higher education institutions, and why equal access to education must be protected. Want to make your voice heard? Head to action.aclu.org/send-message/save-department-education This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. Our senior executive producer is Sam Riddell. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
Seventeen. That's the number of states suing the US government to end federal protections for disabled individuals. 880 billion. That's the amount of money that Congress is primed to cut from Medicaid funding. One in four. That's the number of adults in the US who report having a disability. The math, well—it isn't adding up. This week, W. Kamau Bell is joined by advocates Zoe Brennan-Krohn and Nicole Jorwic to discuss the current state of disability rights in the US, how we got here, and what a just, equitable system could look like—both for individuals needing care and their caregivers. Zoe Brennan-Krohn is Director of the ACLU's Disability Rights Program and Nicole Jorwic is a disability rights activist and the Chief of Advocacy and Campaigns at Caring Across. At Liberty is a production of the ACLU, and hosted by W. Kamau Bell. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get. *** Listen to At Liberty: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-liberty/id1396174920 Donate to the ACLU: http://www.aclu.org/action Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Who but Oscar Montoya could make a heap of outdated appliances, fabric scraps, and broken glass a destination? This week, our dear friend makes his long-awaited One of Us debut, for an episode that sounds much better than it smells. (Seriously, you might wanna take a deep breath before you hit play...) Topics may include: Bad Drag Race, making new friends, depraved tourism, and a certain [redacted] TV show that was recently adapted for Broadway. Oscar is on Instagram @ozzymo and on TikTok @@ozzymo1. You can keep up with Bad Drag Race on Instagram @baddragrace. Make sure you're subscribed to Eurovangelists to hear Oscar talk all things Eurovision. And if you're not already listening to Drag Her with Oscar and fellow BFF member Mano Agapion, are you even one of us?! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week, jasmine.4.t has invited us to a land as lush as her music: a verdant planet Venus of the future. It's a place where Toucans, squirrels, and Idina Menzel run wild, and where everyone's a goddess. Topics may include: Concept albums, Coldplay, and a sprawling conversation about finding your people *and* feeling comfortable solo. Plus, Chris continues their intermittent disappearing act?! jasmine.4.t is on Instagram and TikTok @jasmine.4.t. Make sure to check out her tour dates on jasmine4t.com to see if she's passing through a city near you. LA, she'll be in town this week! And wherever you are in the universe, check out her incredible new album You Are The Morning; the title's dedicated to queer friendship! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
We talk a lot on At Liberty about knowing our rights, but since Donald Trump returned to office, where do those rights stand? This week, the ACLU's National Legal Director Cecillia Wang joins Kamau to make sense of Trump's first 100 days, from the more than 140 executive orders he signed to the more than 100 legal actions the ACLU has filed since January. Plus, listeners share their questions on immigration rights, freedom of speech, and how we can stay prepared for what's ahead. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. Our senior executive producer is Sam Riddell. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
This week, we're tapping into source energy with Chris's Oh, Mary! castmate Hannah Solow. And where better to have profound thoughts than a suburban teen's home movie theater? Topics may include: makeover montages, the Scholastic Book Fair, a dental hygienist's bridesmaid gossip, sun-drenched Pokemon, Temptation Island, and a British TV show about meeting dogs (seen out of order on TikTok, naturally). And Mona Lisa returns, with new accents! Hannah is on TikTok and Instagram @babymcgoo, and at hannahsolow.com. If you're in New York, she'll be performing her solo show on a double bill with our very own co-captain Chris Renfro on Monday, May 12 at the UCB Theatre! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ashley Ray was told that she would need to choose between writing comedy and writing about it. But as an acclaimed critic, TV writer, and stand-up comedian, she's having the last laugh. This week, she joins Mo to discuss bringing her critical sensibility to all of her creative work, how she juggled a full-time job with a burgeoning stand-up career, and how a chance encounter with Maria Bamford shifted her entire perspective on success. Ashley is on Instagram and TikTok @theashleyray. Make sure to check out her debut comedy album Ice Cream Money! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Picture a universe where everything is dewy, radiant, and glistening—a world where skincare reigns supreme. This week, good light cosmetics founder David Yi is taking us deep inside the Skintari Galaxy for our most beauty-forward adventure yet. Topics may include: Labubu, Oompa Loompas, Pop Star Academy, JonBenét Ramsey, and major ASMR vibes. Plus, Fin's eyebrows finally have names! David is on Instagram and TikTok @seoulcialite. You can find good light cosmetics on Instagram and TikTok @goodlight.world, at goodlight.world, and nationwide at Ulta! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
End-to-end encryption. Burner phones. Biometric authentication. Our technology is more advanced than ever, but what does that mean for our digital footprints—and how our data is tracked, whether we're crossing a US border or at home? This week, we're exploring our right to digital privacy and how protecting our data can help protect our freedom of speech and expression. This conversation was made to be leaked. Esha Bhandari is deputy director of the ACLU's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. And Daniel Kahn Gillmor is a Senior Staff Technologist for the ACLU's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. At Liberty is a production of the ACLU, and hosted by W. Kamau Bell. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. Special thanks to David Boyer and KALW. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
Experiencing Richard Perez's comedy is a lot like riding a rollercoaster: one moment, you're laughing your head off; the next, you're clutching your heart. This week, Richard joins Mo to discuss taking big swings on stage, his leap from photography to comedy, and why he's never written down his solo show I Have To Do This. You can see Richard on tour with the show this spring; next up, New York City on April 27 and Los Angeles on May 16! Richard is on Instagram @richard_perez and TikTok @rechparis. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
We come to this place... for magic. This week, we're legitimately laughing, crying, and caring with our new friend Kelley Heyer. You may know her as the creator of the "Apple" dance, but did you know she's the sole manager and caretaker of a supernatural AMC multiplex, ever since losing a bet with a Crossroads devil in midtown?! Topics may include: Twilight, The Dark Crystal, Trader Joe's snacks, The Pitt, bedazzled pinstripe suits, Chris's ongoing desire for a live action Aaahh!!! Real Monsters reboot, and a gaggle of Fin clones. Kelley's on TikTok @kelley.heyer and on Instagram @kelleyheyer. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Vinny Thomas lets his characters speak to him, whether he's playing a pigeon at Pride or Clarence Thomas's grandson. He joins Mo this week to discuss his viral comedy videos, his dream of hosting a Jeff Corwin-style show about animals, and his absolutely, one hundred percent neutral opinions on a certain early 2000s reality TV host. Vinny is on Instagram and TikTok @vinn_ayy. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Our friend Ruby Karp has proposed one of our most wholesome adventures yet: a tour through a world of adorable animal figurines, cute playhouses, and fabulous accessories. But just like Sylvanian Drama, we will find the theatrics. Ruby's on Instagram and TikTok @rubykarp, and you can see her show now through May 3 at Soho Playhouse in New York. Can't get enough of Ruby? Neither can we: make sure to check out her episode of Worse Than You! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
You know that phrase “born on the wrong side of the tracks”? Well, there's something to it: highways, roads, and sidewalks across America have, for decades now, been racial and economic dividers. And these thoroughfares don't just reflect inequality—they continue to play an active role in it. This week, W. Kamau Bell is joined by Deborah N. Archer and Sister Helen Jones for a conversation about transportation infrastructure in the United States, and what a safer, more equitable system could look like. Deborah N. Archer is President of the ACLU, and a tenured professor and associate dean at New York University School of Law. She's also the author of the new book Dividing Lines: How Transportation Infrastructure Reinforces Racial Inequality. Sister Helen Jones is a community organizer and activist in the Watts neighborhood of Southern California. At Liberty is a production of the ACLU, and hosted by W. Kamau Bell. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
By the age of three, comedian Ruby Karp had made her Upright Citizens Brigade debut. By the age of ten, she was performing stand-up across New York City. Now in her mid-twenties, she's settling into her comedic voice—and doing so with the maturity and grace of someone who's been working on their craft for more than half their life. Ruby joins Mo this week to discuss her digital footprint, T.J.Maxx platitudes, and why she's naming names in her new solo show "I Don't Trust Adults." Ruby's on Instagram and TikTok @rubykarp, and you can see her show now through May 3 at Soho Playhouse in New York. She'll also be dropping by Good Get's One of Us with Fin and Chris next week, so make sure you're subscribed for another delightful hour with her! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
There's nothing like a field trip to lift the spirits. And thankfully, our friend Charlie James has invited us to Chicago's natural history museum—after dark. Flesh-eating beetles, a flirty T-Rex, and pyramid schemes await! Charlie on TikTok and Instagram @malecowgirl, and at charliejamescomedy.com. You can pre-order his book "I'm Just a Little Guy: How to Escape the Horrors and Get Back to Dillydallying" now! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Comedian Kyle Ayers feels funniest when he's not in control. But after brain surgery for Trigeminal neuralgia, he wondered whether he could be funny at all. He joins Mo this week to discuss how he's reclaimed a sense of adventure on stage, why he thinks stand-up is becoming a more patient art form, and what it was like to perform in an Edinburgh plague crypt. Kyle revels in the fact that his comedy isn't always legible to audiences scrolling on social media, but lucky for Brooklyn listeners, he'll be performing his solo show Hard to Say at Union Hall this Saturday, April 5. The show's sold out but there'll be a standby line! You can follow Kyle on Instagram @kyleayers, and make sure to listen to his podcast Never Seen It, where comedians (including Mo!) rewrite famous movies they've never seen. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Step right up to an amusement experience unlike any other: Trantasyland. At this park, the rides are euphoric and the snacks are divine. And our friend Elle Deran got us fast passes! Elle's on TikTok and Instagram @elle.deran! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mahmoud Khalil is a recent Columbia University graduate, activist, soon-to-be father, and U.S. green card holder. On March 8, he was unlawfully detained because of his speech in defense of Palestinian human rights. On this week's episode of At Liberty, host W. Kamau Bell is joined by two members of Khalil's legal team—the ACLU's Ben Wizner and Baher Azmy from Center for Constitutional Rights—to discuss why his case should raise alarm bells for anyone who cares about free speech. Ben Wizner is director of the ACLU Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. Baher Azmy is the legal director of the Center for Constitutional Rights. At Liberty is a production of the ACLU, and hosted by W. Kamau Bell. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
For Parvati Shallow, life is a game—and she's playing it authentically. She joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to take control of her own narrative after nearly two decades of appearing on reality TV competitions, how she creates a genuine rapport with on-screen allies, and why there's more to survival than fight or flight. You can follow Parvati on Instagram @pshallow. Make sure to pre-order her forthcoming memoir Nice Girls Don't Win, and subscribe to her podcast of the same name. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Ah, yes. Another peaceful week in the universe. Oh, sorry, you thought we were talking about our universe? You're invited to join Fin and Chris for a week of leisure, sun, and good tidings on the planet Hoop Hoop. It's the vacation they—and you—deserve. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Welcome to our Season 5 Mailbag Episode! This time we're joined by more of our fabulous Nobody Should Believe Me team: head producer Myrriah Gossett, lead researcher Erin Ajayi, story editor Nichole Hill, and producer Greta Stromquist. The team addresses questions about our coverage of Sophie's faith, the role that race played in this season, behind-the-scenes of our touching interview with Chalice Howard, and the value of listener feedback. *** Support Myrriah's other projects! https://www.myrriahgossett.com/ Listen to Nichole's podcast, Our Ancestors Were Messy: https://thesecretadventuresofblackpeople.com/our-ancestors-were-messy Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/ View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you're listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/ Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/ Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children's MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week, we're honored to present an episode of At Liberty, from our friends at the ACLU. Every other week, host W. Kamau Bell is asking the big questions on the big issues affecting our country. Recent episodes cover immigration rights and LGBTQIA+ rights, and today, we're sharing an episode about disability rights. We hope you'll listen, and subscribe to the ACLU's At Liberty wherever you like to listen. We'll be back from spring break next week with an all new episode! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
We're off this week but don't want to leave you hanging, so we're sending the rocket ship back to where it all began: Mammoth Mountain with our first BFF recruit, Dylan Mulvaney. Use this week to catch up on the One of Us back catalogue, and while you're at it, why not leave us an episode review? You can let us know where you want us to steer the rocket ship next. We'll be back next week with an all new adventure! Dylan's on TikTok and Instagram @dylanmulvaney. Make sure to check out her new memoir Paper Doll: Notes from a Late Bloomer! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Seventeen. That's the number of states suing the US government to end federal protections for disabled individuals. 880 billion. That's the amount of money that Congress is primed to cut from Medicaid funding. One in four. That's the number of adults in the US who report having a disability. The math, well—it isn't adding up. This week, W. Kamau Bell is joined by advocates Zoe Brennan-Krohn and Nicole Jorwic to discuss the current state of disability rights in the US, how we got here, and what a just, equitable system could look like—both for individuals needing care and their caregivers. Zoe Brennan-Krohn is Director of the ACLU's Disability Rights Program and Nicole Jorwic is a disability rights activist and the Chief of Advocacy and Campaigns at Caring Across. You can read more about their work: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-names-zoe-brennan-krohn-as-director-of-the-disability-rights-program https://caringacross.org/blog/meet-nicole-our-new-chief-of-advocacy-and-campaigns/ At Liberty is a production of the ACLU, and hosted by W. Kamau Bell. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
Writer and actor Jeffery Self isn't afraid to let go—whether he's pursuing a creative path that doesn't feel generative or reflecting on an early project of his. He writes, too, with a reflexive self-awareness, and an openness that's as vulnerable as it is steady-handed. This week, he joins Mo to discuss treating mental health as a perpetual roommate, finding creative elders, and channeling Jacqueline Susann. You can follow Jeffery on Instagram @jefferyself, and make sure to read—and listen to!—Self-Sabotage, out now from Harper Collins. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
We're in need of a little retail therapy, so we're headed to a Long Island mall with our pal Jared Goldstein. Whether you're into luxury handbags, Pokémon cards, teeny tiny notebooks with an air of romance, or the thrill of returning something to Nordstrom after 30 days, this week's adventure is for you. Jared's on Instagram and TikTok @heyjaredhey. Make sure to listen to his podcast Sorry, What? and follow the show on Instagram @thesorrywhatpod. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Artmaking can help heal us emotionally; for Kate Helen Downey, that healing process has also been physical. Kate's spent more than two decades living with severe period cramps, but it was only when she picked up a microphone for her new podcast CRAMPED that doctors started to take her seriously. This week, she joins Mo to discuss how she shows herself grace when pain limits her productivity, what excites her about creative problem-solving, and why getting a diagnosis hasn't marked the end of her search for care. You can follow Kate on Instagram @katehelendowney, on TikTok @kateiscramped, and at katehelendowney.com. And make sure to listen to CRAMPED! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chris and Fin are back in action, and off to meet their friend Ruha Taslimi! If you dare enter the vault of tales with us, just bring a change of clothes, because it's shockingly wet in here?! Ruha's on Instagram @ruhataslimi and on TikTok @ruha_haha. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Maribel Hernández Rivera is the ACLU's National Director of Immigrant Community Strategies. And Lee Gelernt is Deputy Director of the ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project. You can read more about their work here and here, respectively. At Liberty is a production of the ACLU, and hosted by W. Kamau Bell. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
Tim Platt is a creative polymath: he can write songs, he can draw, and he can commit so hard to a bit that he ends up infiltrating a multi-level marketing scheme for healthy energy drinks. At the heart of all his work is a desire for collaboration, and for over a decade, he's been Mo's other half in the comedy duo Pasic & Platt. Tim joins Mo this week to reflect on their creative partnership, his favorite rhymes, and his new comedy album Teeth Like Beak. You can follow Tim on Instagram @iamkingbozo, and keep up with his work at timplattcomedy.com. Make sure to listen to his album Teeth Like Beak, as well as Rude Tales of Magic and Oh These, Those Stars of Space! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Riley Westling is coming to the rescue as Fin's co-host this week! And they're both hungry for adventure. Which is great, because Vinny Thomas has invited them to a magical place where everything's on the menu, and nothing's off limits. Vinny Thomas is on Instagram and TikTok @vinn_ayy. Riley's on Instagram and TikTok @rileywestling. Next week: Fin and Chris find their ways back to each other. We hope. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It's one thing for an audience to separate the art from the artist. But what if an artist wants to keep aspects of their life separate from their art? Sasheer Zamata has spent over a decade navigating this precarious balance, from her early days on SNL to her recent turn in Agatha All Along. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stays authentic, why she likes working with her friends, and the thrill of finding new ways to express herself. You can follow Sasheer on Instagram @thesheertruth, and keep up with her work at sasheer.com. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chris is taking a solo adventure this week to visit Best Friend Force member Matthew Scott Montgomery, and on his birthday, no less! Wonder what he's been up to since we left him in that harvest festival field months ago... Matthew Scott Montgomery's on Instagram @matthew_scott_montgomery and TikTok @matthewscottmontgomery. Join Fin, Riley, and a new BFF recruit next week for an all-new adventure and don't worry, we'll all be reunited soon! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week, the ACLU's Chase Strangio joins W. Kamau Bell to discuss the current state of LGBTQIA+ rights across the country. Listen in as they explore how Trump's executive orders have already affected folks' access to gender-affirming care, passports, and beyond; what the ACLU is doing to contest these measures; and why protecting LGBTQIA+ rights is critical to ensuring everyone's rights. Chase Strangio is Co-Director of the ACLU's LGBT & HIV Project as well as a nationally recognized expert on transgender rights. You can read more about his work here. At Liberty is a production of the ACLU, and hosted by W. Kamau Bell. This episode was executive produced by Jessica Herman Weitz and Gwen Schroeder for the ACLU, and W. Kamau Bell, Kelly Rafferty, PhD, and Melissa Hudson Bell, PhD for Who Knows Best Productions. It was recorded at Skyline Studios in Oakland, CA. At Liberty is edited and produced by Erica Getto and Myrriah Gossett for Good Get.
For actor and comedian Chris Grace, writing a solo show isn't the hard part. Neither is performing it. It's the feeling that he should always be doing more—more promotion, more show dates, or more new material—that he has to contend with. This week, Chris and Mo get into the complexities of staging a solo show—especially one at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival—treating the audience like a scene partner, and laughing in the face of death. If you want to learn more about the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and Mo's experience with their solo show (which inspired this whole podcast!) make sure to revisit our first season, where Mo chats exclusively with Fringe performers like Demi Adejuyigbe, Julio Torres, and Cat Cohen. You can follow Chris on TikTok and Instagram @chrisgracecomedy. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It's Valentine's Day week, and our hearts are on fire. So we're back to the Platonic Love Bubble, outside of the realm of space and time, for a gravity-defying catch-up with our co-captains. And when Fin and Chris finish their love questionnaire, all will finally be revealed. Make sure to listen to the end of this episode, and check out our first visit to the Platonic Love Bubble, where Chris and Fin cover the first half of the 36 Questions list! (But you can totally do that after listening to this episode, we're all about a choose your own adventure.) One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Writer and director Bri LeRose periodically asks herself: if a teenage Bri, living in Wisconsin, looked at her career today, would she think it was enough? And the answer's always yes: she would have thought it was the coolest thing in the world to even share space with the people she admired. Today, Bri joins Mo to discuss her comedy process, from directing titans like Maria Bamford to co-writing the groundbreaking film The People's Joker with Vera Drew; why hobbies are sometimes the best creative salves; and what it's like to work in Hollywood but live in Wisconsin. You can follow Bri on Instagram @brilerose and keep up with her work at brilerose.com! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Grace Freud told us to meet her at her girlfriend's apartment, and to bring a full-sized Kitchen Spice Yankee Candle as an offering. But we don't know her girlfriend's name, or where she lives. And honestly? We're not sure Grace does, either... A note from Team One of Us: This episode includes discussion of substance abuse; if you're looking for support resources, here's a great place to start: https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/helplines/national-helpline. Follow Grace on Instagram @gracefreudbusiness and Twitter @GraceGFreud, and make sure to check out her podcast Girl God, co-hosted with April Clark. Want to see Grace live? Lucky you, Game Show Pig at Lodge Room is just around the corner. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
If you're a regular listener of Worse Than You, then you know that Albertina Rizzo is inner circle. Albertina and Mo connect through the shared philosophy that life is funny, even the sad parts. And that being funny and interested in life is the key to joy. Albs joins Mo this week to discuss writing for late night, how she follows the fun on—and off—the page, the power of anonymity, and why she'd love to buy herself a boss. Plus, a special appearance from Mo's cat Vanya! When we asked Albertina where folks can follow her, she said, "Don't." But you can find her on Twitter and Instagram, if you're looking, or you can check out shows like I Love That For You, American Auto, and Hit-Monkey to see her writing in action. Plus, the 700+ episodes of Late Night and The Tonight Show that she's contributed to! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Take us out to the ball game, take us out with the crowd. But seriously, we're trying to find our new friend Tuck Woodstock in the crowd. Tuck! TUCK?! Follow Tuck on Instagram @tuckwoodstockjr, and keep up with the latest from Tuck here. Make sure you're listening to Gender Reveal, and following the show on Instagram @gendereveal. While you're at it, see if Gender Ordeal's headed to your city; if so, you won't wanna miss it! And make sure you're following us on Instagram @oneofus.pod for continued LA fire resources and mutual aid groups. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It's not every day that we get to witness someone's process on the eve of a major creative milestone. Today's one of those special days. Join us in celebrating our dear friend Chris Renfro as they make their Broadway debut in Oh, Mary! Mo and Chris discuss how Chris landed one of Broadway's most exciting roles as Mary's Teacher, the skills they're hoping to develop off stage during their run, and how they've built a creative community every step of the way. Plus, our first evil poem! You can follow Chris on Instagram @themeatskeleton. Make sure to check out their podcast One of Us with Fin and Chris on Apple, Spotify, and beyond; here's Mo's episode of the show. And of course, go see Oh, Mary! to catch Chris in action. And make sure you're following us on Instagram @meauxpas and @worsethanyoushow for continued LA fire resources and mutual aid groups. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tiny Camp is a special place where imaginations run big, and everything is small. And we're headed there this week to meet our pal Jiavani. Pick up an acoustic guitar and join the song circle! Follow Jiavani on Instagram @jiavani, and at jiavani.com. And make sure you're following us on Instagram @oneofus.pod for continued LA fire resources and mutual aid groups. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
A note from team One of Us: We recorded this episode before the ongoing, incomprehensible LA fires. We've decided to release it on the chance that some laughter and escapism can bring comfort to our listeners in this difficult time. Make sure you're following @oneofus.pod on Instagram, where we'll continue to share mutual aid resources and other ways to get involved in support efforts. And with that, here's this week's episode... Out: traveling to the edges of the universe. In: boring to the Earth's core, where our friend Allison Reese is expecting us! Our rocket ship's equipped for any type of journey, we think... Follow Allison on TikTok and Instagram @alienreese, and at allisonreese.com One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
There's nothing like a friendly neighbor along the highways. There's nothing like a Buc-ee's! This week, we're headed to Texas to meet our friend Dani Fernandez at the convenience store that has it all—including Buc-ee himself. Follow Dani on Instagram @msdanifernandez, and check out their short film In the Static, featuring Chris! And if you're curious about Fin's crescendo playlist, we've got you covered here. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It's a new year, and we've got an all new season teed up for you! We're thrilled to announce that we'll be back on Wednesday, January 15, with weekly episodes to follow. And as a special gift for our listeners, we're releasing a full episode with Matt Rogers... today! So go take a listen, and make sure you're subscribed to the show so that you don't miss a beat. Also, if nobody's told you yet this year: oh my god, you're so pretty. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Happy new year, dear friends! We figured you might want to start 2025 off with a burst of creative inspiration... and we've got you covered, with an early release from our new season, featuring Matt Rogers! Listen in as Mo and Matt reflect on their decade-long friendship, how they approach creative collaborations, and an early character of Matt's that still makes Mo crack up. Also, we've got a full video version of this episode available on Good Get's YouTube! Stay tuned for our official season premiere on Wednesday, January 15, and make sure you're subscribed so that you don't miss a beat. You can follow Matt on Instagram and TikTok @mattrogerstho, and at mattrogersofficial.com. And of course you can listen to Las Culturistas wherever you get your podcasts. Here's an appearance with Mo from 2019! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We're meeting writer Erin Schwartz in the great, drone-filled state of New Jersey this week to shop for holiday gifts! It's a One of Us Mall Party, complete with magic, moth-ridden clothing, and an homage to Italian American culture. Erin is on Instagram @dog_foundation. Make sure to check out their writing for New York Magazine's The Strategist, including their contributions to The Transgender Family Handbook. One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The music's atonal. The house drink's Four Loko. There are triads everywhere. We're hanging out at a small town gay bar on Mars, and look—there's our friend Roz Hernandez! Roz is on Instagram @rozhernandez and TikTok @itsrozhernandez. Make sure to listen to Ghosted! by Roz Hernandez, available across podcast platforms; you can follow the show on Instagram @ghostedbyroz. (Here's Chris and Fin's episode!) And check out Roz's LinkTree for her latest tour dates and projects, like Roz Hernandez: The Haunted Doll! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett and Erica Getto for Good Get. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. Our show art was drawn by Fin Argus, and photographed by Mike and Matt McCarty. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It's tiiiiiiiime! We don't want a lot for Christmas, just a coat as stunning as Rudolph's, some alone time with Santa, and the title of twink king of the elves. Plus, a romp through town with our dear pal, Ryan Barton! Ryan's on Instagram @rrybrator. Make sure to check out Selling Fountain Avenue, on TikTok and Instagram @sellingfountainavenue! One of Us is hosted and produced by Chris Renfro and Fin Argus. It's executive produced by Myrriah Gossett for Gossett Productions and Erica Getto for Kinehora Productions. Myrriah Gossett is our sound designer, and our theme music is produced by Fin Argus and Brendan Chamberlain-Simon. You can follow One Of Us on Instagram and TikTok at @oneofus.pod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices