Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic

Josh Sharp has just begun rehearsals for his Off-Broadway debut. It's billed as a solo show, but technically, Josh has a scene partner: a 2,000-slide PowerPoint presentation. He joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to find synchronicity with a slideshow, how theater feels different from any film or TV set he's worked on, and why he's reveling in duality. Josh is on Instagram @cluckcluckjoshsharp. And Josh Sharp: ta-da! is on Instagram @joshsharptada! The show will open Off-Broadway this summer at the Greenwich House Theatre, directed by Oh, Mary's Sam Pinkleton. Performances begin July 7. Tickets are on sale now at joshsharptada.com. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joel Kim Booster knows the power of pining: if there's even a chance that a script he loves can be produced, he'll work tirelessly on it. But you won't find him waiting around for a yes—for every project he has in development, he's already drafting another. This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he reverse-engineered self-confidence on stage, what it's been like to move his career goal posts, and the Fire Island summer that changed his life. Joel's on Instagram @ihatejoelkim. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Vico Ortiz sees their career as a relationship. And they're putting in the work to keep it from becoming toxic. That means pursuing projects that feel aligned with their values, invite them to hone new skills, and fulfill their spirit—like their new solo show Rise of a King. This week, they join Mo to discuss their experience writing both English and Spanish versions of the show; what they've learned from puppetry, drag, clowning, and burlesque; and where they find ease in their work. Vico's on Instagram and TikTok @puertoricaninja, and on Bluesky. Make sure to subscribe to their new Substack Thirsty Silly Goosin' with Vico Ortiz and their podcast Today In Gay. And if you're in LA this month, get tickets to Rise of a King at Hollywood Fringe! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sometimes the most meaningful art exists in the interstices, where a blank canvas becomes a space that's separate from work or family or the churn of everyday life. And this week, we're celebrating this type of art with a very special guest: Mo's sibling Anna Pasic. Listen in as Mo and Anna discuss removing urgency from their art, what mutual aid has to do with creativity, and why it's worth getting back in the saddle. Follow Anna on Instagram @ancatpas. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ronald Young Jr. is building his career in audio the same way that he'd like to build a house: with care, intentionality, and a strong foundation. And with each project that he releases, he wants listeners to hear that he's making progress. This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he approaches his critically acclaimed podcasts like Weight For It, the importance of having friends who know you off mic, and the risks of replacing emotional nuance with drama. Ronald's on Instagram @ohitsbigron and ohitsbigron.com. Make sure to check out his podcasts Weight For It and Leaving the Theater! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Becky Chicoine and Sam Reece met as UCB interns more than a decade ago. Since then, they've headlined comedy festivals across the country and co-written and co-starred in filmed projects like their upcoming short Apocalypse Besties. This week, they join Mo to reflect on their enduring creative partnership as Girls with Brown Hair—with talk of theater conservatories, Broadway dance calls, scripted interludes, hard skills, snakes, and ample characters along the way. Becky's on TikTok and Instagram @beckychicoine, Sam's on TikTok and Instagram @samreecetv, and you can follow their joint work on Instagram @gwbhcomedy.If you're in New York for the Tribeca Film Festival this June, come celebrate the world premiere of Apocalypse Besties! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hosting a popular web series wasn't part of Catherine McCafferty's plan. But when her friends Sam Reich and Elaine Carroll asked her to collaborate, she leapt at the opportunity. What resulted was the dating show Pretty Gay, which has seen twenty-fold growth in just over a year. She joins Mo this week to discuss her non-linear creative path, how she maintains an abundance mindset, and why it's so important to invest in up-and-coming artists. Catherine is on Instagram and TikTok @catherine_mccaff. Make sure to check out Pretty Gay, only on Patreon; season three is out now! (In fact, TODAY if you're listening to this on May 7!) You can also check out her first appearance on the podcast here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ashley Ray was told that she would need to choose between writing comedy and writing about it. But as an acclaimed critic, TV writer, and stand-up comedian, she's having the last laugh. This week, she joins Mo to discuss bringing her critical sensibility to all of her creative work, how she juggled a full-time job with a burgeoning stand-up career, and how a chance encounter with Maria Bamford shifted her entire perspective on success. Ashley is on Instagram and TikTok @theashleyray. Make sure to check out her debut comedy album Ice Cream Money! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Experiencing Richard Perez's comedy is a lot like riding a rollercoaster: one moment, you're laughing your head off; the next, you're clutching your heart. This week, Richard joins Mo to discuss taking big swings on stage, his leap from photography to comedy, and why he's never written down his solo show I Have To Do This. You can see Richard on tour with the show this spring; next up, New York City on April 27 and Los Angeles on May 16! Richard is on Instagram @richard_perez and TikTok @rechparis. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Vinny Thomas lets his characters speak to him, whether he's playing a pigeon at Pride or Clarence Thomas's grandson. He joins Mo this week to discuss his viral comedy videos, his dream of hosting a Jeff Corwin-style show about animals, and his absolutely, one hundred percent neutral opinions on a certain early 2000s reality TV host. Vinny is on Instagram and TikTok @vinn_ayy. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

By the age of three, comedian Ruby Karp had made her Upright Citizens Brigade debut. By the age of ten, she was performing stand-up across New York City. Now in her mid-twenties, she's settling into her comedic voice—and doing so with the maturity and grace of someone who's been working on their craft for more than half their life. Ruby joins Mo this week to discuss her digital footprint, T.J.Maxx platitudes, and why she's naming names in her new solo show "I Don't Trust Adults." Ruby's on Instagram and TikTok @rubykarp, and you can see her show now through May 3 at Soho Playhouse in New York. She'll also be dropping by Good Get's One of Us with Fin and Chris next week, so make sure you're subscribed for another delightful hour with her! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Comedian Kyle Ayers feels funniest when he's not in control. But after brain surgery for Trigeminal neuralgia, he wondered whether he could be funny at all. He joins Mo this week to discuss how he's reclaimed a sense of adventure on stage, why he thinks stand-up is becoming a more patient art form, and what it was like to perform in an Edinburgh plague crypt. Kyle revels in the fact that his comedy isn't always legible to audiences scrolling on social media, but lucky for Brooklyn listeners, he'll be performing his solo show Hard to Say at Union Hall this Saturday, April 5. The show's sold out but there'll be a standby line! You can follow Kyle on Instagram @kyleayers, and make sure to listen to his podcast Never Seen It, where comedians (including Mo!) rewrite famous movies they've never seen. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For Parvati Shallow, life is a game—and she's playing it authentically. She joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to take control of her own narrative after nearly two decades of appearing on reality TV competitions, how she creates a genuine rapport with on-screen allies, and why there's more to survival than fight or flight. You can follow Parvati on Instagram @pshallow. Make sure to pre-order her forthcoming memoir Nice Girls Don't Win, and subscribe to her podcast of the same name. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, we're honored to present an episode of At Liberty, from our friends at the ACLU. Every other week, host W. Kamau Bell is asking the big questions on the big issues affecting our country. Recent episodes cover immigration rights and LGBTQIA+ rights, and today, we're sharing an episode about disability rights. We hope you'll listen, and subscribe to the ACLU's At Liberty wherever you like to listen. We'll be back from spring break next week with an all new episode! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Writer and actor Jeffery Self isn't afraid to let go—whether he's pursuing a creative path that doesn't feel generative or reflecting on an early project of his. He writes, too, with a reflexive self-awareness, and an openness that's as vulnerable as it is steady-handed. This week, he joins Mo to discuss treating mental health as a perpetual roommate, finding creative elders, and channeling Jacqueline Susann. You can follow Jeffery on Instagram @jefferyself, and make sure to read—and listen to!—Self-Sabotage, out now from Harper Collins. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Artmaking can help heal us emotionally; for Kate Helen Downey, that healing process has also been physical. Kate's spent more than two decades living with severe period cramps, but it was only when she picked up a microphone for her new podcast CRAMPED that doctors started to take her seriously. This week, she joins Mo to discuss how she shows herself grace when pain limits her productivity, what excites her about creative problem-solving, and why getting a diagnosis hasn't marked the end of her search for care. You can follow Kate on Instagram @katehelendowney, on TikTok @kateiscramped, and at katehelendowney.com. And make sure to listen to CRAMPED! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Tim Platt is a creative polymath: he can write songs, he can draw, and he can commit so hard to a bit that he ends up infiltrating a multi-level marketing scheme for healthy energy drinks. At the heart of all his work is a desire for collaboration, and for over a decade, he's been Mo's other half in the comedy duo Pasic & Platt. Tim joins Mo this week to reflect on their creative partnership, his favorite rhymes, and his new comedy album Teeth Like Beak. You can follow Tim on Instagram @iamkingbozo, and keep up with his work at timplattcomedy.com. Make sure to listen to his album Teeth Like Beak, as well as Rude Tales of Magic and Oh These, Those Stars of Space! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's one thing for an audience to separate the art from the artist. But what if an artist wants to keep aspects of their life separate from their art? Sasheer Zamata has spent over a decade navigating this precarious balance, from her early days on SNL to her recent turn in Agatha All Along. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stays authentic, why she likes working with her friends, and the thrill of finding new ways to express herself. You can follow Sasheer on Instagram @thesheertruth, and keep up with her work at sasheer.com. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For actor and comedian Chris Grace, writing a solo show isn't the hard part. Neither is performing it. It's the feeling that he should always be doing more—more promotion, more show dates, or more new material—that he has to contend with. This week, Chris and Mo get into the complexities of staging a solo show—especially one at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival—treating the audience like a scene partner, and laughing in the face of death. If you want to learn more about the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and Mo's experience with their solo show (which inspired this whole podcast!) make sure to revisit our first season, where Mo chats exclusively with Fringe performers like Demi Adejuyigbe, Julio Torres, and Cat Cohen. You can follow Chris on TikTok and Instagram @chrisgracecomedy. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Writer and director Bri LeRose periodically asks herself: if a teenage Bri, living in Wisconsin, looked at her career today, would she think it was enough? And the answer's always yes: she would have thought it was the coolest thing in the world to even share space with the people she admired. Today, Bri joins Mo to discuss her comedy process, from directing titans like Maria Bamford to co-writing the groundbreaking film The People's Joker with Vera Drew; why hobbies are sometimes the best creative salves; and what it's like to work in Hollywood but live in Wisconsin. You can follow Bri on Instagram @brilerose and keep up with her work at brilerose.com! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you're a regular listener of Worse Than You, then you know that Albertina Rizzo is inner circle. Albertina and Mo connect through the shared philosophy that life is funny, even the sad parts. And that being funny and interested in life is the key to joy. Albs joins Mo this week to discuss writing for late night, how she follows the fun on—and off—the page, the power of anonymity, and why she'd love to buy herself a boss. Plus, a special appearance from Mo's cat Vanya! When we asked Albertina where folks can follow her, she said, "Don't." But you can find her on Twitter and Instagram, if you're looking, or you can check out shows like I Love That For You, American Auto, and Hit-Monkey to see her writing in action. Plus, the 700+ episodes of Late Night and The Tonight Show that she's contributed to! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's not every day that we get to witness someone's process on the eve of a major creative milestone. Today's one of those special days. Join us in celebrating our dear friend Chris Renfro as they make their Broadway debut in Oh, Mary! Mo and Chris discuss how Chris landed one of Broadway's most exciting roles as Mary's Teacher, the skills they're hoping to develop off stage during their run, and how they've built a creative community every step of the way. Plus, our first evil poem! You can follow Chris on Instagram @themeatskeleton. Make sure to check out their podcast One of Us with Fin and Chris on Apple, Spotify, and beyond; here's Mo's episode of the show. And of course, go see Oh, Mary! to catch Chris in action. And make sure you're following us on Instagram @meauxpas and @worsethanyoushow for continued LA fire resources and mutual aid groups. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A note from team Worse Than You: When we recorded our first batch of episodes for season two, we had no idea that we'd be releasing them amidst the ongoing, incomprehensible fires in LA. We hope that these conversations can bring comfort to our listeners as we process this difficult time together. Make sure you're following @meauxpas and @worsethanyoushow on Instagram, where we'll continue to share mutual aid resources and other ways to get involved in support efforts. And with that, here's this week's episode, with George Civeris! George joins us for our season premiere to discuss deadlines, tech culture, and what he sees as the difference between writing jokes with punchlines and more discursive comedic vignettes. You can follow George on Instagram @georgeciveris. And you can listen to Straightiolab wherever you get your podcast. Check out Mo's appearances on the show while you're at it: "Verbal Communication" and "Money"! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy new year, dear friends! We figured you might want to start 2025 off with a burst of creative inspiration... and we've got you covered, with an early release from our new season, featuring Matt Rogers! Listen in as Mo and Matt reflect on their decade-long friendship, how they approach creative collaborations, and an early character of Matt's that still makes Mo crack up. Also, we've got a full video version of this episode available on Good Get's YouTube! Stay tuned for our official season premiere on Wednesday, January 15, and make sure you're subscribed so that you don't miss a beat. You can follow Matt on Instagram and TikTok @mattrogerstho, and at mattrogersofficial.com. And of course you can listen to Las Culturistas wherever you get your podcasts. Here's an appearance with Mo from 2019! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's a new year, and we've got an all new season teed up for you! We're thrilled to announce that we'll be back on Wednesday, January 15, with weekly episodes to follow. And as a special gift for our listeners, we're releasing a full episode with Matt Rogers... today! So go take a listen, and make sure you're subscribed to the show so that you don't miss a beat. Also, if nobody's told you yet this year: oh my god, you're so pretty. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel. We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're celebrating our season finale with a very special guest: Sam Taggart! The Straightiolab co-host joins Mo to discuss millennial jokes, the fine line between judgement and critique, and the unforgettable night that Mo went blonde. We'll be back soon with new episodes, and an exciting new group of guests. Make sure to stay subscribed so you don't miss a thing! Sam Taggart is a comedian, actor, and writer currently writing on After Midnight for CBS. He's also the co-host of the Big Money Players podcast StraightioLab with George Civeris! You can follow him on Instagram @samtaggart. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage play Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Julio Torres has never let other people measure his success. This week, Julio joins Mo to discuss being a "zero waste" artist, embracing chaos and mess, and the Sex and the City scene that speaks best to his creative process. Plus, Mo shares a poem of Julio's that they've held for ten years. Julio Torres is an Emmy-nominated, Peabody-winning, and WGA-winning writer, director and comedian from El Salvador. . Most recently, he wrote, directed, executive produced and starred in HBO's Fantasmas. You also know him from projects like his directorial feature film debut Problemista, Los Espookys, and Saturday Night Live. . His first standup special My Favorite Shapes was released on HBO in 2019… and before that, Julio performed it at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage play Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does it mean to be gay? It's a question that actor and comedian Stephen Brower is working out in his stage show Palatable Gay Robot, where he plays HumaVibes' latest humanoid creation. Listen in as Mo and Stephen discuss sharing scenes with a voiceover, distinguishing theater from therapy, and the creative power of Snoopy! The Musical. Stephen Brower is a New York City-based actor, writer, and comedian. And he's currently touring the country with his 2023 Fringe show Palatable Gay Robot! Listening to this on release day? (Good for you, we love you.) You can see him in Los Angeles TOMORROW! If you don't live in LA, or you're listening to this later (we still love you, just make sure to subscribe), here's a full list of his tour dates. For more, head to www.stephenbroweronline.com, and make sure to follow Stephen on Instagram @stephenbrower and TikTok @stephen_brower. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage play Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's homecoming week for Worse Than You! Mo's back in LA and back in the saddle with their friend Greta Titelman to discuss the creative life cycle. When do we put the pen down and when do we run with the momentum; is a creation ever really complete? Greta Titelman is a comedian, actress, and writer. You know her from shows like Search Party and Los Espookys, films like Problemista, and podcasts like Senior Superlatives. She performed her hour-long show Exquisite Lies at the 2023 Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage play Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Part of the creative process is rest, and to mark the end of the Fringe festival, we're taking some this week! Instead of a Worse Than You episode, we're excited to share a conversation from our friends Chris Renfro and Fin Argus over at One of Us with Fin and Chris. Every week, they're hopping in a rocket ship and traveling to meet a new guest in a new, imagined universe. And this episode features a very special 2024 Fringe headliner: our friend Dylan Mulvaney. We hope you enjoy One of Us with as much as we do. Make sure to follow the show on Instagram and TikTok @oneofus.pod, and subscribe. And we'll be back next week with more Worse Than You, and more Fringe headliners! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for editing this week's episode. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Was the real Edinburgh Fringe Festival the friends we made along the way? This week, Mo's unwinding with Catherine McCafferty and Demi Adejuyigbe before they all head back to LA. They talk about balancing their personal lives with their art, finding authentic relationships, and how far they'd commit to a bit for love. And hey, guess what, it's all about process. The Edinburgh Fringe Festival may be a wrap, but we're still at it! Stay tuned for more episodes of Worse Than You, featuring Fringe headliners... and beyond. Catherine McCafferty is an actor and stand-up who just wrapped her Edinburgh Fringe Festival run of her solo show (Not) That Bad. You can check out her digital series Pretty Gay on Patreon, and see her in projects like Crush on Hulu. Demi Adejuyigbe is a writer, comedian, filmmaker, and musician. He just wrapped his Fringe show Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do One (1) Backflip, for which he was nominated for The 2024 DLT Entertainment Best Newcomer Award. Check out Demi's first chat with Mo here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. You can learn more about the stage show Worse Than You here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we have two very special guests on the show: Brian McElhaney and Nick Kocher, also known as BriTANicK! Listen in as the duo talks about their decades-long creative partnership, how clowns have influenced their more recent work, and the "horrendous finale" that Edinburgh audiences couldn't handle. BriTANicK is an Emmy®-nominated sketch duo; Brian and Nick have written for shows like Saturday Night Live and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and their sketch comedy videos have amassed over 100 million views online. They'll next be bringing their Fringe show Dummy to the Soho Theater, and you can follow along with their work and Patreon at britanick.com. They also directed Demi Adejuyigbe's Fringe show, Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do One (1) Backflip! Check out Demi's chat with Mo here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

What starts as a catch-up between Mo and their best friend and creative collaborator Sudi Green turns into a sprawling conversation about what it means to “earn” a creative opportunity, the difference between a comedy show and a show that deploys humor, and why there's no nuance on a poster. Missed Sudi and Mo's first conversation? Check it out here! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

When artist and comedian Kate Cheka looked at her astrological chart, she wasn't sure she'd make it to this year's Edinburgh Fringe Festival. We're so glad that she did. This week, Kate and Mo chat about how Kate addresses matters of race, class, and gender in her work; why morning people shouldn't be allowed to run society; and whether Kate is, indeed, the messiah. Kate Cheka is a London-based artist and comedian whose accolades include being the reigning Funny Women Award winner, a Chortle Best Newcomer nominee, and a BBC New Comedy Awards regional finalist. She got her comedy start in Berlin, and she has since performed stand-up in over ten countries. At this year's Edinburgh Fringe Festival run, she's performing her debut hour A Messiah Comes. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

This podcast's all about process, so we want to give you a peek behind the curtain of Mo's Edinburgh Fringe Festival run of Worse Than You! Listen in as Mo reflects on their first week of shows, the rapport they've been building with audiences, and the friends they're singing karaoke with along the way. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

Catherine Cohen's in the houuuuse this week! She and Mo chat about Cat's songwriting process, the joys of performing to a new crowd every night, and their first impressions of each other in New York's alt comedy scene. Catherine Cohen is a writer, singer, and comedian. You know her from her world tour and Netflix special The Twist... ? She's Gorgeous, her hit podcast Seek Treatment with Pat Regan, and her comedic poetry collection God I Feel Modern Tonight. She's also an Edinburgh Comedy Award winner, and returning to the Fringe Festival this year to perform her show Come For Me. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. Special thanks to Myrriah Gossett for setting up our Edinburgh tech kit. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

Imagine a Victorian sprawled on a chaise lounge. Now give them tattoos or muscles, and place a boiled egg or other odd, unexpected object just out of reach. That's how Ella Evans describes her comedy. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stretches the familiar, embraces the absurd, and tosses conventional writing wisdom out the window. Ella Evans is a writer and performer. Her work explores queer life and themes of rural identity and freedom. She is a Channel 4 new writer, and she'll be performing her show Femme Fatigue at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival this summer. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

Some comedians commit to the bit. Demi Adejuyigbe reinvents it. This week, Demi joins Mo to discuss how he tends to even the smallest moments on stage, what it takes to stay one step ahead of audiences, and why he's doing a backflip in his Fringe show. Demi Adejuyigbe is a writer, comedian, filmmaker, and musician known for his podcasts Punch Up The Jam and Gilmore Guys, his popular September 21st video series, and as a writer/producer on NBC's The Good Place, Peacock's The Amber Ruffin Show, Netflix's NEON, and Apple TV's Strange Planet. He'll be performing his show Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do One (1) Backflip at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival this summer. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

When we say prowl, you say panther! This week, Mo chats with their best friend and collaborator Sudi Green about holding each other accountable, life as a literal princess, and the ten-hour drive that set the course for their stage play Worse Than You. Sudi Green is an Emmy-nominated writer and comedian. She has written for Saturday Night Live, Shrill (Hulu), I Love That For You (Showtime) and numerous variety specials and awards shows. Her on-screen credits include I Think You Should Leave, The Other Two, and Girls. She is also the director of Worse Than You! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Lauren Mandel and Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Carmen Carigan. Charlotte Harrison designed our show art, and Brandon Young photographed Mo for our show art. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here. Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions.

Paris may be hosting this summer's Olympics, but every summer, the Edinburgh Fringe Festival hosts the Olympics of performing arts. And this year, a former All-American athlete will be taking to the Fringe stage: Mo Fry Pasic. Join Mo every week as they chat with festival headliners about how they got their acts together, and train for their own 25-show run. On your marks: the first episode drops Tuesday, July 16! Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted by Mo Fry Pasic, and co-produced by Disco Nap and Kinehora Productions. We're on Instagram @worsethanyoushow. Headed to the Fringe? Come see the stage show Worse Than You! You can get your tickets here.