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How do we talk with the people with whom we disagree the most? Especially in today's toxic social, religious, and political environment, where disagreement is seen as treason and we're all on the edge of being canceled? This week, we had our eyes opened when Justin Lee gave us some practical advice for how to communicate with those across the aisle--and why our old arguments have always failed so miserably. Justin first appeared on our radar in the early 2000s, when the "Great Debate" on his blog about LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church broke new ground in showing that there is such a thing as a committed, faithful, gay Christian, and arguing that the Bible may not say exactly what we think it does about all queer relationships through all time and circumstances. That conversation turned into the popular book "Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate," which was recently updated in a 2024 edition. Justin has now turned his attention to an even bigger picture, focusing on the many ways that we disagree across different aspects of our society, and dives deep into the causes of our disagreements, why our old ways of arguing with one another often backfire and make the divine even wider, and practical tools and methods of having productive conversations with the people who disagree with us the most. His essential book on this topic is called "Talking Across the Divide: How to Communicate with People You Disagree with and Maybe Even Change the World" Bio: Justin Lee has been successfully bridging cultural divides for 25 years. He first developed his strategic dialogue techniques while working at the difficult intersection of faith and LGBTQ issues, where he became internationally known for helping heal family and community rifts. His book on that subject, Torn, is now one of the most widely read in the field. Justin's latest book, Talking Across the Divide: How to Communicate with People You Disagree With—and Maybe Even Change the World, draws on scientific research and real-world examples to apply these same techniques to today's political and social conflicts. Follow Justin's work at GeekyJustin.com. Justin Lee Website: https://geekyjustin.com/ Facebook: @geekyjustin Instagram: @geekyjustinlee Twitter/X: @geekyjustinlee Remember to come see us in person at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 Denver, CO Get Information and Tickets for https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tRADICALHOBBITthe-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207 Promo Code for our listeners: RADICALHOBBIT (all caps, no spaces)
“I'm afraid I'm going to hell because I'm not attracted to men. Please give me an unbiased interpretation of Romans 1.” We received this question from a young woman, M.V. This podcast was created by one of Google's newest AI engines, NotebookLM. (https://notebookLM.google.com) We gave NotebookLM M.V.'s question and these six quotes: 1. Justin Lee, from the book: “Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate”: “Paul's writings in Romans 1 are about people who turned away from God and engaged in lustful, excessive behaviors. This is different from a loving, committed same-sex relationship.” 2. Janet Edmonds who I have quoted frequently in this series, says in part: “The behavior Paul (…author of the book of Romans…) was addressing here is explicitly associated with idol worship (probably temple prostitution…' “In the surrounding culture it was common for men of a higher status to take sexual advantage of male slaves or male prostitutes…” “The laws at the time in Rome allowed a master to demand sexual services from any slave, male or female” “Paul was not talking about homosexuality and didn't have in mind specifically prohibiting consensual same-sex relationships.” 3. Matthew Vines, in his book “God and the Gay Christian”: says “Paul's references to ‘unnatural' relations in Romans 1:26-27 are often misunderstood. He was addressing specific cultural practices of his time, not committed, loving same-sex relationships as we understand them today.” 4. Rev. Dr. Mel White, Book: “What the Bible Says—and Doesn't Say—about Homosexuality”: “Romans 1:26-27 must be read in the context of the entire chapter, which condemns idolatry and excessive lust, not loving same-sex relationships.” 5. Kathy Baldock, in her book “Walking the Bridgeless Canyon”: “Paul's use of ‘natural' and ‘unnatural' in Romans 1 reflects the cultural norms of his time, not a universal condemnation of same-sex relationships.” 6. James Brownson, “Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church's Debate on Same-Sex Relationships”: “Romans 1, 26 and 27 addresses behaviors that were seen as dishonorable and excessive, not the loving, committed relationships we see today.” For more information about NotebookLM: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LMPb9JJnosPj8SPVRSF9z?si=rrOjkTrAR0eGO0Otrv5zfg&t=1466&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A44fllCS2FTFr2x2kjP9xeT
Queering Wesley, Queering the Church is a book written by Keegan Osisnki. Quite a title right!?! If you haven't seen the cover, click the link below to catch a glimpse. However, before you literally judge a book (or it's author) by it's cover, take a second to hear a little about Keegan. She shares a little about her life, her convictions and why she took on a project like this that is giving the Wesleyan Holiness Church world quite a lot to think about! Here is here book! Also, Keegan is a librarian and wanted to be sure that everyone had resources for getting started with thinking about Christianity and LGBTQ+ issues. Here are her suggested reading materials: Cheng, Patrick S. Radical Love: An Introduction to Queer Theology. 1 edition. Seabury Books, 2011. DeFranza, Megan K. Sex Difference in Christian Theology: Male, Female, and Intersex in the Image of God. Eerdmans, 2015. Fausto-Sterling, Anne. Sex/Gender: Biology in a Social World. 1 edition. New York: Routledge, 2012. Gushee, David P. Changing Our Mind: Definitive 3rd Edition of the Landmark Call for Inclusion of LGBTQ Christians with Response to Critics. 3 edition. Read the Spirit Books, 2017. Lee, Justin. Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate. Jericho Books, 2012. McCleneghan, Bromleigh. Good Christian Sex: Why Chastity Isn't the Only Option-And Other Things the Bible Says About Sex. San Francisco: HarperOne, 2016. Soughers, Tara K. Beyond a Binary God: A Theology for Trans* Allies. Church Publishing, 2018. Vines, Matthew. God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships. Convergent Books, 2014. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/millennial-pastors/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/millennial-pastors/support
Listeners! Welcome back to another F-ing episode. This week, OFP is happy to announce some very special guests, mother-daughter duo, Stephanie and Jevonne Ray! This week Jess, Caro, Stephanie, and Jevonne sat down to discuss family dynamics, specifically focused on LGBTQ topics. It was a terrific conversation about safe spaces and learning to listen. Below are the links for the resources mentioned in the episode: Justin Lee, “Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays vs. Christians Debate” (Book)B. T. Harman, “Blue Babies Pink” (Podcast/Blog)Julie Rodgers, “Outlove” (Book/Blog)Private Facebook Support Group for moms of LGBTQ+ kids: Find and friend Liz DyerResources listed by Serendipitydodah Mama Bears: CHECK THEM OUT HEREStephanie's Story: READ IT HEREYou can email us at ourfingpodcast@gmail.com or you can reach out on our Instagram @ourfingpodcastYou can also reach out to us individually. Jess is @renegadepastor and Caro is @carolinap_dasilva.And remember to love each other.
An interview with Justin Lee, speaker, Christian LGBTQ activist and author of Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate, and Talking Across the Divide: How to Communicate with People You Disagree With—and Maybe Even Change the World. https://geekyjustin.com/"
On episode #731 of Theology in the Raw Preston has a public dialogue with Justin Lee. Justin is the author of Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate. Justin has been an influential Christian voice for LBGT+ affirmation for 20 years, best known for working across areas of theological disagreement to promote grace and mutual understanding. He is the founder of the world's largest LGBT+ Christian advocacy organization, and an internationally known speaker on faith, sexuality, and dialogue. The event was hosted by Spark Church.Dialogue begins at timestamp: 10:22Question and Response timestamp: 1:38:20Video of the event:https://youtu.be/hRHlf4dKFz0https://youtu.be/5-NdR2rUnzgSupport PrestonSupport Preston by going to patreon.comConnect with PrestonTwitter | @PrestonSprinkleInstagram | @preston.sprinkleCheck out his website prestonsprinkle.comIf you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a review.
Part: 2Justin Lee shares his story of being a committed follower of Jesus and being gay. For the last two decades, Justin Lee has been an influential Christian voice, best known for working across areas of theological disagreement to promote grace and mutual understanding.Justin's first book, Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate, has been widely cited for its role in changing conservative Christians' attitudes and helping Christian parents accept their LGBTQ kids. His newest book, Talking Across the Divide, offers strategies for having more productive conversations on controversial issues in a polarized society.Thanks to his books and his advocacy work, Justin has been invited to speak across the U.S. and around the world. He's been featured in a number of media outlets, including Dr. Phil, Anderson Cooper 360, All Things Considered, The Advocate, The Christian Post, and The New York Times.Justin lives in Orlando, Florida, where he currently serves as the executive director of Nuance Ministries and as a consultant for the Tyler Clementi Foundation. He makes humorous videos on the Bible and other topics on his YouTube channel and blogs at GeekyJustin.com.
In his new book ‘A War Of Loves’, David Bennett tells his story of being an atheist gay activist who experienced a dramatic conversion to Christianity. David still identifies as gay but lives a celibate lifestyle, holding to traditional Christian sexual ethics. He engages with Justin Lee, author of ‘Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gay vs Christian debate’, who affirms faithful same-sex relationships. To support Unbelievable? on #GivingTuesday: https://resources.premier.org.uk/supportunbelievable-givingtuesday/ For David Bennett: https://www.awarofloves.com/ For Justin Lee: http://geekyjustin.com/ Get signed copies of Unbelievable? the book and audiobook: www.unbelievablebook.co.uk For more faith debates visit http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable Join the conversation: Facebook and Twitter Get the MP3 Podcast of Unbelievable? Via RSS or Via Itunes
Help Support LGBT Stories! Visit us on Patreon and show your TODAY! Justin Lee, the original founder of The Gay Christian Network, GCN, shares his story of coming to terms with who he is as a gay Christian. Justin is a speaker and author of "Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate". Check out his website www.geekyjustin.com for more! Follow Justin On: facebook Twitter Tumblr YouTube Snapchat Instagram Our shows logo was designed and donated to us by Ryan Sirois, author of, "King of Stars". Pick up Ryans inspiring book today! Follow Ryan On: facebook Instagram LinkedIn hello@ryansirois.com LGBT Stories is Supported by The Menlo House. Use our promo code LGBT at check out for 50% off your first two months! LGBT Stories is created and hosted by, Kevin Gerdes. Follow Kevin On: facebook Twitter Instagram Follow LGBT Stories On: facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube contact@ourlgbtstories.com LEARN HOW TO PODCAST IN ONLY 30 DAYS!
Queerology is on break and will return next week with Vicky Beeching! (Encore release of Episode 14) For the last two decades, Justin Lee has been an influential Christian advocate for LGBT affirmation, best known for working across areas of theological disagreement to promote grace and mutual understanding. His book Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate has been widely cited for its role in changing conservative Christians’ attitudes and helping Christian parents accept their LGBT kids. In this episode, Justin discusses leaving GCN, the power of nuance, and his upcoming projects.
Be the Bridge: Connecting the LGBTQIA+ Community and People of Faith
Justin Lee is a firm believer that Christians should be known for showing love, not for being jerks. Twenty years ago, he started building bridges between the gay and Christian group on his campus. in 2001, he founded the Gay Christian Network, which has grown to 30,000 members. He is the author of Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays v. Christians Debate. I speak with Justin about his faith and how his spiritual quest led him to a different yet richer understanding of the Bible.
We speak with Justin Lee, founder of The Gay Christian Network and author of Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gay vs. Christian Debate. Justin has long been in this discussion and shares his perspective on the conversation, where the Church is headed, and the latest on LiveLoveOut. Links from the conversation: Torn on Amazon Justin’s Blog […] The post Episode 11 – The Gay vs. Christian Debate with Justin Lee appeared first on At The End Of The Day [Film].
Marie Hause moderates an episode on the relationship between LGBTQ people and the Christian church with Victoria Reynolds Farmer and guest panelist Nate Craddock. Topics include Justin Lee's book Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays vs Christians Debate and a sermon by Danny Cortez.